| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| djsiegel__ | seele: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut please check it out and change if you'd like | 00:29 |
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| cbr | hi, latest karmic crashes on kde login | 09:51 |
| cbr | xorg log has some backtrace | 09:52 |
| cbr | openbox works though | 09:52 |
| davmor2 | cbr: hit ctrl-alt-f1 type in the following sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade this should then add about 16 packages. It should then work. Or at least it is for me now on gnome test install. | 10:07 |
| cbr | davmor2: yup, did that | 10:15 |
| cbr | and no, it didn't work | 10:15 |
| davmor2 | what gfx card do you have? I'm assuming this is down to kms being enabled | 10:16 |
| cbr | oh wait, there's some mesa stuff now | 10:16 |
| cbr | i have intel | 10:16 |
| cbr | and kms doesn't work now for some reason | 10:16 |
| cbr | although it did before | 10:16 |
| davmor2 | cbr: yes the mesa stuff and some xserver stuff too that should fix it | 10:17 |
| davmor2 | cbr: did that fix it? | 10:26 |
| cbr | davmor2: yes | 11:00 |
| === blizzzek is now known as blizzz | ||
| Mamarok | arghs, some users... | 11:02 |
| \sh | sebas: congrats | 11:14 |
| Mamarok | \sh: what for? | 11:17 |
| * Mamarok wonders | 11:17 | |
| davmor2 | cbr: Cool :) everyone is a happy bunny again :) | 11:27 |
| \sh | Mamarok: for his new job at kdab | 11:35 |
| Mamarok | oh, that :) he started back in May already :) | 11:35 |
| \sh | Mamarok: I didn't know that :) | 11:41 |
| Mamarok | \sh: well, I learned when we had the Amarok sprint at KDAB offices back in May :) | 11:42 |
| \sh | Mamarok: hopefully I have time to go to most of the FOSS real world meetings next year...seems like I miss quite a lot of good meetings :) | 11:43 |
| Mamarok | you definitely do! | 11:44 |
| Mamarok | and you will not attend Akademy if I understand you right? | 11:44 |
| Mamarok | sad :( | 11:44 |
| Mamarok | what about FrosCon? | 11:44 |
| \sh | Mamarok: as I never attended Akadamy, I don't know what I will miss...and as said at the end of last year and at the beginning of this year, I won't attend any FOSS fairs or conferences this year, because of Family. :) | 11:45 |
| Mamarok | not even FrosCon? That's not that far away and only a weekend | 11:45 |
| \sh | Mamarok: yeah...but you know since may I was only 2 weeks really at home and the rest of the time travelling between our datacenters and doing a lot of work...so time with family has prio 1 :) but hopefully next year I'll take wife and son with me to travel around :) so Sean Ryan learns about the FOSS community from the very beginning of his life :) | 11:47 |
| Mamarok | that sounds nice! | 11:47 |
| freinhard | can i change to another kde session in karmic? doesn't work for intel on jaunty atm. | 12:13 |
| === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin | ||
| valgaav | freinhard: AFAIK that's a driver issue | 12:37 |
| valgaav | should be fixed with kms /gem/ dri2 | 12:37 |
| valgaav | it's jut that with dri1 you cannot run 2 xservers with 3d at the same time | 12:38 |
| freinhard | does a kde desktop without any effects need 3d? | 12:41 |
| freinhard | can't use them anyways, hardware to slow. | 12:41 |
| freinhard | or driver too bad. | 12:41 |
| valgaav | well maybe | 12:50 |
| valgaav | I never really tried to run a second xserver with OSS drivers... | 12:51 |
| nixternal | ummmmm | 13:05 |
| nixternal | http://paste.ubuntu.com/203521/ | 13:05 |
| nixternal | why? | 13:05 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: phonon is built against pulseaudio so that if its installed, you'll get support. But luckily having libpulse0 installed != having pulseaudio installed ;-) | 13:12 |
| nixternal | funny, same symptoms as having it installed | 13:13 |
| JontheEchidna | it doesn't contain the pulseaudio binary, just the libraries | 13:18 |
| nixternal | well, in the past we have been able to remove them, therefor removing "PulseAudio" from the multimedia selection | 13:21 |
| nixternal | otherwise it will keep saying my Intel audio doesn't work, falling back to . | 13:21 |
| nixternal | and I have to live with no sound | 13:21 |
| JontheEchidna | sounds like something aside from pulseaudio is failing, and in the process it's falling back to the fake PA backend | 13:24 |
| nixternal | who is buying breakfast this morning? | 13:24 |
| nixternal | I figured out what it was, it was pulse, just not those packages | 13:30 |
| nixternal | when I grep'd and all those pulse packages showed up, which I wasn't used to seeing in the past, I got a bit nervous | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | you should do something like that mononono package | 13:32 |
| JontheEchidna | pulseaudionono | 13:32 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 13:32 |
| nixternal | gotta bare with me, I am cranky because I quit smoking | 13:32 |
| nixternal | I think we should have Mono in Kubuntu | 13:32 |
| nixternal | we can put Tomboy in by default | 13:32 |
| nixternal | now that would be a great April Fools right there | 13:33 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, boycottnovell'd shit its pants | 13:33 |
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| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ | ||
| JontheEchidna | or, we could port knotes to the mono qytoto bindings :D | 13:34 |
| JontheEchidna | *qyoto | 13:34 |
| nixternal | oh man, that would be so awesome | 13:36 |
| JontheEchidna | it would totally be called "pulling a reverse gnote" | 13:36 |
| nixternal | that would be really funny | 13:36 |
| nixternal | I looked at the Tomboy and GNote code, it is by far the largest mess for the smallest app I have ever in my life witnessed | 13:36 |
| nixternal | dude, their codebase screams "OVERENGINEERING!!!" | 13:37 |
| JontheEchidna | pixel_256x13_has_changed() | 13:38 |
| nixternal | hahahaha | 13:38 |
| rgreening | did we remove gdebi yet from default install? Riddell or ScottK? As KPackagekit can likley replace it all right? | 13:59 |
| * rgreening cant recall if it was done last cycle or for this... | 13:59 | |
| rgreening | hmm.. I believe install-package deps on it for some reason (and that would need fixing). | 14:01 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, we never got around to removing the dependency from install-package | 14:03 |
| JontheEchidna | tonio's looking in to putting the functionality into kpackagekit | 14:03 |
| txwikinger_work | Anybody having an idea when the redrawing issues and plasma-desktop problems will be solved? | 14:10 |
| freinhard | dtchen: about that firmwareupdate for prism cards: i clone the the git from the repo, commit my local changes and then? | 14:12 |
| === mgraesslin__ is now known as mgraesslin | ||
| nhandler | ryanakca: Some links in the footer have the same problem as the "You are Here" link. The /License page is also missing (I am trying to hunt that down) | 14:57 |
| nhandler | ryanakca: I'll file a bug report later today. I just wanted to let you know | 15:03 |
| seele | what did we decide about bug 389740? invalid because oxygen isn't the default theme anymore? | 15:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 389740 in hundredpapercuts "KDE desktop + - zoom icons need improved" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/389740 | 15:11 |
| seele | (at least for a papercut) | 15:11 |
| yuriy | seele: I doubt that the icons are transparent, and the icon set is not changing, so i'm guessing the icons were actually fixed | 15:19 |
| yuriy | or not, don't see any changes in svn | 15:26 |
| jjesse | morning | 15:45 |
| seele | yuriy: the icons weren't fix, the problem must be with the oxygen theme | 15:46 |
| seele | maco: are you planning on working on the "Abort" strong papercut? if so, I'd like to assign it to you | 15:47 |
| seele | *string | 15:47 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: ping | 16:17 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: ping | 16:45 |
| freinhard | what do i need for a debug package? DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=? | 16:47 |
| agateau | seele: where can i find the paperkut list? on your wiki page? | 16:48 |
| maco | seele, yes | 16:50 |
| maco | did kpackagekit's persistent notification thingy start working? the icon's changed... | 16:51 |
| JontheEchidna | maco: yeah, we re-enabled kpackagekit's notifications | 17:00 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: who else I can poke to get new rev. of update-manager-kde reviewed and uploaded? ScottK is mentioned he has lot's of work | 17:04 |
| JontheEchidna | ridell, apachelogger, and tonio are the other guys you might try | 17:05 |
| rgreening | Quintasan: Tonio_is online, maybe he has a quick minute to dput for you... | 17:06 |
| seele | agateau: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bugs?field.tag=hundredpaperkuts | 17:07 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: pingstorm | 17:07 |
| agateau | seele: thanks | 17:07 |
| seele | maco: done :) | 17:08 |
| seele | agateau: feel free to add any, there are probably some out there i dont realise are papercuts because i dont know how little/much work they take | 17:08 |
| agateau | seele: ok | 17:09 |
| agateau | but probably not today in fact :/ | 17:09 |
| agateau | have to go | 17:10 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: can you ping me in a couple of hours ? I'll be at home and online, and I may forget about that ;) | 17:11 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: sure, if Riddell won't show up faster :P | 17:11 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: oki :) | 17:11 |
| rgreening | ScottK: you around? | 17:14 |
| maco | seele, "hundredpaperkuts"? cute | 17:23 |
| JontheEchidna | as a note, they've been removing the hunderpaperkuts tag and replacing it with kde | 17:24 |
| maco | and no "hundredpapercuts" to replace it? | 17:24 |
| seele | JontheEchidna: why? | 17:24 |
| seele | JontheEchidna: i saw they only did it to one, not all of them | 17:25 |
| JontheEchidna | I saw two of them, figured it was a trend | 17:25 |
| JontheEchidna | as for why, dunno. | 17:25 |
| seele | argh.. i feel like i'm playing operation | 17:26 |
| seele | i broke my backspace key and now all these little pieces are falling off | 17:26 |
| seele | and i'm trying to put them back into their exact holes or else it messed up the other little pieces | 17:26 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter | ||
| maco | seele, get an external keyboard, then get StevenK to fix yours | 17:32 |
| maco | he managed to get my Ctrl keycap back on at UDS | 17:32 |
| maco | (i was trying for 3 weeks!) | 17:32 |
| Quintasan | LOL | 17:32 |
| maco | hrm.... seele? | 17:34 |
| maco | in kpackagekit, on the updater...the down arrows... | 17:34 |
| maco | if i'm UPdating, why do the arrows point DOWN? | 17:34 |
| seele | downloading updates? | 17:35 |
| maco | (with the programmer hat, i'm guessing it's something to do with DOWNloading the updates...?) | 17:35 |
| seele | i remember havin this discusison with someone else before | 17:35 |
| maco | i'm trying to figure out how my brother and mom would act if they used kde | 17:36 |
| maco | im not entirely sure mom would know to click the arrow...i think my brother might guess | 17:37 |
| seele | which arrow are you talking about? the update indicator? | 17:41 |
| seele | YES i fixed it | 17:42 |
| JontheEchidna | seele: I think the discussion you are recalling was in regards to the proposed update-notifier-kde icons when it was first developed | 17:44 |
| JontheEchidna | probably with me :P | 17:44 |
| seele | ah, hehe | 17:44 |
| maco | in the updater window | 17:46 |
| maco | there's a blue arrow to the right of the package name | 17:47 |
| maco | and you click that to tell it to update that package | 17:47 |
| maco | i feel like it ought to point up...or have a thumbs up to say "yes" ...or something | 17:47 |
| freinhard | Quintasan: when you remind Tonio_ about your update-notifier-kde changes, please remind him of my branch too: https://code.launchpad.net/~freinhard/update-notifier-kde/respect-exitcodes | 17:59 |
| freinhard | thx | 17:59 |
| Quintasan | freinhard: sure thing :) | 17:59 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: I merged already ;) | 18:07 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: I'll release a new version this WE, after I fix a bug that affects debian | 18:07 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: great! merged on your local machine or is lp slow these days? | 18:10 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: look the code on kdesudo project/trunk | 18:11 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: should be in afaik... | 18:11 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: stupid me, wrong ff tab! | 18:12 |
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| Tonio_ | freinhard: ;) | 18:21 |
| * Quintasan loves Vi input mode in kate | 19:01 | |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ | ||
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter | ||
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 19:08 |
| _Groo_ | anyone working on amarok 2.2 builds? i need a fresh mysqld patch :P | 19:09 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| Mamarok | groo_: seems no one, so please, go ahead :) | 20:25 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: yeah gonna have to fix it... 2.2 crashes now when i use the embedded mysqle.. i need to use external.. | 20:26 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: gonna see what i can do | 20:26 |
| Mamarok | groo_: works fine here, but I have a self-compiled mysqle here | 20:27 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: can you paste.bin your ./configure? i wanna see if something changed, and what svn number? | 20:27 |
| Mamarok | for my Amarok build you mean? | 20:28 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: it broke after 983750 | 20:28 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: yes | 20:28 |
| Mamarok | groo_: my SVN build is r986494 | 20:29 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: hmm ok, can you paste.bin your ./configure (confgi.log) | 20:30 |
| * Mamarok checks | 20:30 | |
| Mamarok | groo_: you sure about the name of the file? I compile a SVN checkout with cmake here | 20:34 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: no, no amarok.. the configure of your mysql | 20:34 |
| Mamarok | right, sorry, let me check | 20:34 |
| Mamarok | groo_: my bad, I sem to use the libmysqlclient15-dev from jaunty, forgot I did a complete reinstall here :( | 20:40 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: it works now??? using default jaunty dev? | 20:41 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: it didnt before.. interesting | 20:41 |
| Mamarok | groo_: and it seems to work since quite some time, I haven't reinstalled this machine since April | 20:42 |
| groo_ | Mamarok: did you use jauntys package to rebuild amarok? | 20:43 |
| Mamarok | groo_: yes, all is jaunty, except the taglib-extras, the qtscriptgenerator (apachelogger did build one that works btw, use it on another machine) and liblastfm now | 20:49 |
| Mamarok | actually, there are jaunty packages for both taglib-extras and qtscriptgenerator that work | 20:50 |
| nantal | i have a problem with the amarok music player | 20:55 |
| nantal | i can't play musics in mp3 format | 20:56 |
| Mamarok | nantal: install libxine1-ffmpeg, and please, use #kubuntu for support questions | 21:04 |
| nantal | ok, thank you | 21:06 |
| Mamarok | you are welcome :) | 21:07 |
| nantal | oh, thank you very much, it works again :D | 21:09 |
| Mamarok | nantal: and this is not Amaroks fault, it's a license problem, we can not ship those by default because of restrictions in some countries | 21:14 |
| * Mamarok notes that missing codecs should be proposed automatically for Amarok in Kubuntu *hint* | 21:15 | |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: If I'm not mistaken there is KNotify popup which suggests installing additional packages :> | 21:17 |
| Mamarok | Quintasan: that's the theory... | 21:18 |
| Quintasan | well it showed up for me after installation | 21:19 |
| Mamarok | Quintasan: never seen that happen in real life on Jaunty so far, guess why we have so many support request for mp3 not working... | 21:19 |
| Mamarok | coming mainly from Kubuntu users | 21:19 |
| Mamarok | Quintasan: also, it shows up for gstreamer, but not for xine | 21:19 |
| Quintasan | hmm I think it should get fixed once for all | 21:20 |
| Quintasan | however my coding skills are almost 0 :< | 21:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Mamarok: this is with the kubuntu packages that it's not asking for codecs? | 21:21 |
| groo_ | btw will support for replaygain in xine be implemnted in 2.2? gstreamer is a piece of... | 21:21 |
| JontheEchidna | it's expected that it wouldn't work for ubuntu users since they don't normally have update-notfier-kde installed | 21:21 |
| JontheEchidna | but if they're using the kubuntu packages in kubuntu then it should ask for the codecs | 21:21 |
| Mamarok | JontheEchidna: hm, and we get tons of angry users who can't play music in Amarok... | 21:22 |
| JontheEchidna | all I've ever seen are bug reports from ubuntu users | 21:22 |
| Mamarok | JontheEchidna: nope, check the logs for #kubuntu, those are Kubuntu users new to Jaunty, most have never seen that pop up | 21:22 |
| Mamarok | and we have most of them in #amarok anyway, and in bugzilla | 21:23 |
| rickspencer3-afk | nick rickspencer3 | 21:23 |
| Mamarok | slash... | 21:23 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| Quintasan | Tonio_: ping | 21:32 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: reviewing ;) | 21:33 |
| Tonio_ | thanks fo the reminder | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: rev. 80 and I'm sorry for making small mess with commits :P | 21:34 |
| Tonio_ | no pb :) | 21:34 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: didn't merge my branch in and forgot to modify kdesudo.h and the signal. | 21:35 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: hu ? | 21:35 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: try to compile rev38 | 21:36 |
| Tonio_ | hum the problem is that you patched an old trunk and I had problem following your diff :) | 21:36 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: wan't trunk access ? that would easier | 21:36 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: sure :) | 21:36 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: would be way easier than finding what you modified in a hudge diff :) | 21:37 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: just subscribe to the list please | 21:37 |
| Tonio_ | s/list/team | 21:37 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: I'll approve you immediately | 21:38 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: done | 21:39 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: approved :) | 21:39 |
| freinhard | thx! still don't undestand why my version was to old. i modified r37, that's the latest version listed. | 21:43 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: hu ? | 21:47 |
| Tonio_ | weird, I made a diff and it was realy hudge... missing translations and so on.... well nevermind, you can do whatever you want now :) | 21:48 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: that's all i did: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~freinhard/kdesudo/return-exitcode/revision/38 | 21:51 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: I might have been drunk then :/ | 21:51 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: k then i'll commit the rest of the changes. | 21:54 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: super ! | 21:54 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: hope mine is good too :3 | 21:55 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: it is | 21:57 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: also I don't understand why the python script fails when started accross the link | 21:57 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: especially since kblueplugd is in the same place, same kinda link, and doesn't have the same issue... | 21:57 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: I don't know, if I remember correctly ScottK and rgreening couldnt solve it either. | 21:58 |
| Quintasan | but I hope that solution is acceptable | 21:58 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: waiting for any better, this works | 21:59 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: uploaded | 21:59 |
| Tonio_ | Quintasan: would be interesting to ask Riddell is he has any idea of a better fix | 22:00 |
| Quintasan | Tonio_: I pinged him two times but I guess he has work to do | 22:00 |
| Tonio_ | k | 22:02 |
| dtchen | freinhard: request a pull | 22:03 |
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| freinhard | dtchen: but where would you pull from? so i need some githost? | 22:13 |
| Riddell | evening | 22:14 |
| dtchen | freinhard: yes, you would need a publicly accessible git host | 22:14 |
| dtchen | gitorious, github, ... | 22:14 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: does a LP #<bug> in a commit message trigger the "fix commited" status change? | 22:45 |
| JontheEchidna | freinhard: fix released, yes | 22:46 |
| JontheEchidna | you can set it to fix committed if the fix is in bzr or upstream has committed the fix in their repos | 22:47 |
| freinhard | right, was talking about bzr. | 22:47 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, dunno | 22:48 |
| Tonio_ | freinhard: yup | 22:48 |
| JontheEchidna | I've never had it set it to fix committed automatically for me | 22:48 |
| freinhard | i'll wait some more minutes for the magic to happen | 22:49 |
| smarter_ | freinhard: bzr commit --fixes lp:12345 | 23:07 |
| smarter_ | if you use that nifty utility which I forgot the name of and that generate commit messages from the changelog, I think it's done automatically | 23:08 |
| freinhard | smarter_: thany you for the hint! | 23:08 |
| smarter_ | (damn, I really haven't packaged for a while) | 23:09 |
| smarter_ | 'night | 23:09 |
| freinhard | Tonio_: looks like bug 258799 got fixed with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo/kdesudo/trunk-kde4/revision/35 ? | 23:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 258799 in kdesudo "kdesudo incompatibility with kdesu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258799 | 23:11 |
| freinhard | works for me here. | 23:11 |
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| Tonio__ | freinhard: I'll fix the changelog then if I can confirm this works | 23:18 |
| Tonio__ | freinhard: id you commit your changes ? | 23:18 |
| freinhard | Tonio__: yes i did. | 23:19 |
| nhandler | ryanakca: You know the footer I was talking about earlier? That should not be there at all. The Copyright / License stuff and mention of a free license currently only applies to help.ubuntu.com (where ubuntunew is used) | 23:19 |
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