=== rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 [00:29] seele: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut please check it out and change if you'd like [09:51] hi, latest karmic crashes on kde login [09:52] xorg log has some backtrace [09:52] openbox works though [10:07] cbr: hit ctrl-alt-f1 type in the following sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade this should then add about 16 packages. It should then work. Or at least it is for me now on gnome test install. [10:15] davmor2: yup, did that [10:15] and no, it didn't work [10:16] what gfx card do you have? I'm assuming this is down to kms being enabled [10:16] oh wait, there's some mesa stuff now [10:16] i have intel [10:16] and kms doesn't work now for some reason [10:16] although it did before [10:17] cbr: yes the mesa stuff and some xserver stuff too that should fix it [10:26] cbr: did that fix it? [11:00] davmor2: yes === blizzzek is now known as blizzz [11:02] arghs, some users... [11:14] <\sh> sebas: congrats [11:17] \sh: what for? [11:17] * Mamarok wonders [11:27] cbr: Cool :) everyone is a happy bunny again :) [11:35] <\sh> Mamarok: for his new job at kdab [11:35] oh, that :) he started back in May already :) [11:41] <\sh> Mamarok: I didn't know that :) [11:42] \sh: well, I learned when we had the Amarok sprint at KDAB offices back in May :) [11:43] <\sh> Mamarok: hopefully I have time to go to most of the FOSS real world meetings next year...seems like I miss quite a lot of good meetings :) [11:44] you definitely do! [11:44] and you will not attend Akademy if I understand you right? [11:44] sad :( [11:44] what about FrosCon? [11:45] <\sh> Mamarok: as I never attended Akadamy, I don't know what I will miss...and as said at the end of last year and at the beginning of this year, I won't attend any FOSS fairs or conferences this year, because of Family. :) [11:45] not even FrosCon? That's not that far away and only a weekend [11:47] <\sh> Mamarok: yeah...but you know since may I was only 2 weeks really at home and the rest of the time travelling between our datacenters and doing a lot of work...so time with family has prio 1 :) but hopefully next year I'll take wife and son with me to travel around :) so Sean Ryan learns about the FOSS community from the very beginning of his life :) [11:47] that sounds nice! [12:13] can i change to another kde session in karmic? doesn't work for intel on jaunty atm. === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [12:37] freinhard: AFAIK that's a driver issue [12:37] should be fixed with kms /gem/ dri2 [12:38] it's jut that with dri1 you cannot run 2 xservers with 3d at the same time [12:41] does a kde desktop without any effects need 3d? [12:41] can't use them anyways, hardware to slow. [12:41] or driver too bad. [12:50] well maybe [12:51] I never really tried to run a second xserver with OSS drivers... [13:05] ummmmm [13:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/203521/ [13:05] why? [13:12] nixternal: phonon is built against pulseaudio so that if its installed, you'll get support. But luckily having libpulse0 installed != having pulseaudio installed ;-) [13:13] funny, same symptoms as having it installed [13:18] it doesn't contain the pulseaudio binary, just the libraries [13:21] well, in the past we have been able to remove them, therefor removing "PulseAudio" from the multimedia selection [13:21] otherwise it will keep saying my Intel audio doesn't work, falling back to . [13:21] and I have to live with no sound [13:24] sounds like something aside from pulseaudio is failing, and in the process it's falling back to the fake PA backend [13:24] who is buying breakfast this morning? [13:30] I figured out what it was, it was pulse, just not those packages [13:31] when I grep'd and all those pulse packages showed up, which I wasn't used to seeing in the past, I got a bit nervous [13:32] you should do something like that mononono package [13:32] pulseaudionono [13:32] :P [13:32] gotta bare with me, I am cranky because I quit smoking [13:32] I think we should have Mono in Kubuntu [13:32] we can put Tomboy in by default [13:33] now that would be a great April Fools right there [13:33] yeah, boycottnovell'd shit its pants === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ [13:34] or, we could port knotes to the mono qytoto bindings :D [13:34] *qyoto [13:36] oh man, that would be so awesome [13:36] it would totally be called "pulling a reverse gnote" [13:36] that would be really funny [13:36] I looked at the Tomboy and GNote code, it is by far the largest mess for the smallest app I have ever in my life witnessed [13:37] dude, their codebase screams "OVERENGINEERING!!!" [13:38] pixel_256x13_has_changed() [13:38] hahahaha [13:59] did we remove gdebi yet from default install? Riddell or ScottK? As KPackagekit can likley replace it all right? [13:59] * rgreening cant recall if it was done last cycle or for this... [14:01] hmm.. I believe install-package deps on it for some reason (and that would need fixing). [14:03] yeah, we never got around to removing the dependency from install-package [14:03] tonio's looking in to putting the functionality into kpackagekit [14:10] Anybody having an idea when the redrawing issues and plasma-desktop problems will be solved? [14:12] dtchen: about that firmwareupdate for prism cards: i clone the the git from the repo, commit my local changes and then? === mgraesslin__ is now known as mgraesslin [14:57] ryanakca: Some links in the footer have the same problem as the "You are Here" link. The /License page is also missing (I am trying to hunt that down) [15:03] ryanakca: I'll file a bug report later today. I just wanted to let you know [15:11] what did we decide about bug 389740? invalid because oxygen isn't the default theme anymore? [15:11] Launchpad bug 389740 in hundredpapercuts "KDE desktop + - zoom icons need improved" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/389740 [15:11] (at least for a papercut) [15:19] seele: I doubt that the icons are transparent, and the icon set is not changing, so i'm guessing the icons were actually fixed [15:26] or not, don't see any changes in svn [15:45] morning [15:46] yuriy: the icons weren't fix, the problem must be with the oxygen theme [15:47] maco: are you planning on working on the "Abort" strong papercut? if so, I'd like to assign it to you [15:47] *string [16:17] ScottK: ping [16:45] Riddell: ping [16:47] what do i need for a debug package? DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=? [16:48] seele: where can i find the paperkut list? on your wiki page? [16:50] seele, yes [16:51] did kpackagekit's persistent notification thingy start working? the icon's changed... [17:00] maco: yeah, we re-enabled kpackagekit's notifications [17:04] JontheEchidna: who else I can poke to get new rev. of update-manager-kde reviewed and uploaded? ScottK is mentioned he has lot's of work [17:05] ridell, apachelogger, and tonio are the other guys you might try [17:06] Quintasan: Tonio_is online, maybe he has a quick minute to dput for you... [17:07] agateau: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bugs?field.tag=hundredpaperkuts [17:07] Tonio_: pingstorm [17:07] seele: thanks [17:08] maco: done :) [17:08] agateau: feel free to add any, there are probably some out there i dont realise are papercuts because i dont know how little/much work they take [17:09] seele: ok [17:09] but probably not today in fact :/ [17:10] have to go [17:11] Quintasan: can you ping me in a couple of hours ? I'll be at home and online, and I may forget about that ;) [17:11] Tonio_: sure, if Riddell won't show up faster :P [17:11] Quintasan: oki :) [17:14] ScottK: you around? [17:23] seele, "hundredpaperkuts"? cute [17:24] as a note, they've been removing the hunderpaperkuts tag and replacing it with kde [17:24] and no "hundredpapercuts" to replace it? [17:24] JontheEchidna: why? [17:25] JontheEchidna: i saw they only did it to one, not all of them [17:25] I saw two of them, figured it was a trend [17:25] as for why, dunno. [17:26] argh.. i feel like i'm playing operation [17:26] i broke my backspace key and now all these little pieces are falling off [17:26] and i'm trying to put them back into their exact holes or else it messed up the other little pieces === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [17:32] seele, get an external keyboard, then get StevenK to fix yours [17:32] he managed to get my Ctrl keycap back on at UDS [17:32] (i was trying for 3 weeks!) [17:32] LOL [17:34] hrm.... seele? [17:34] in kpackagekit, on the updater...the down arrows... [17:34] if i'm UPdating, why do the arrows point DOWN? [17:35] downloading updates? [17:35] (with the programmer hat, i'm guessing it's something to do with DOWNloading the updates...?) [17:35] i remember havin this discusison with someone else before [17:36] i'm trying to figure out how my brother and mom would act if they used kde [17:37] im not entirely sure mom would know to click the arrow...i think my brother might guess [17:41] which arrow are you talking about? the update indicator? [17:42] YES i fixed it [17:44] seele: I think the discussion you are recalling was in regards to the proposed update-notifier-kde icons when it was first developed [17:44] probably with me :P [17:44] ah, hehe [17:46] in the updater window [17:47] there's a blue arrow to the right of the package name [17:47] and you click that to tell it to update that package [17:47] i feel like it ought to point up...or have a thumbs up to say "yes" ...or something [17:59] Quintasan: when you remind Tonio_ about your update-notifier-kde changes, please remind him of my branch too: https://code.launchpad.net/~freinhard/update-notifier-kde/respect-exitcodes [17:59] thx [17:59] freinhard: sure thing :) [18:07] freinhard: I merged already ;) [18:07] freinhard: I'll release a new version this WE, after I fix a bug that affects debian [18:10] Tonio_: great! merged on your local machine or is lp slow these days? [18:11] freinhard: look the code on kdesudo project/trunk [18:11] freinhard: should be in afaik... [18:12] Tonio_: stupid me, wrong ff tab! === ferai is now known as jefferai [18:21] freinhard: ;) [19:01] * Quintasan loves Vi input mode in kate === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [19:08] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [19:09] <_Groo_> anyone working on amarok 2.2 builds? i need a fresh mysqld patch :P === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [20:25] groo_: seems no one, so please, go ahead :) [20:26] Mamarok: yeah gonna have to fix it... 2.2 crashes now when i use the embedded mysqle.. i need to use external.. [20:26] Mamarok: gonna see what i can do [20:27] groo_: works fine here, but I have a self-compiled mysqle here [20:27] Mamarok: can you paste.bin your ./configure? i wanna see if something changed, and what svn number? [20:28] for my Amarok build you mean? [20:28] Mamarok: it broke after 983750 [20:28] Mamarok: yes [20:29] groo_: my SVN build is r986494 [20:30] Mamarok: hmm ok, can you paste.bin your ./configure (confgi.log) [20:30] * Mamarok checks [20:34] groo_: you sure about the name of the file? I compile a SVN checkout with cmake here [20:34] Mamarok: no, no amarok.. the configure of your mysql [20:34] right, sorry, let me check [20:40] groo_: my bad, I sem to use the libmysqlclient15-dev from jaunty, forgot I did a complete reinstall here :( [20:41] Mamarok: it works now??? using default jaunty dev? [20:41] Mamarok: it didnt before.. interesting [20:42] groo_: and it seems to work since quite some time, I haven't reinstalled this machine since April [20:43] Mamarok: did you use jauntys package to rebuild amarok? [20:49] groo_: yes, all is jaunty, except the taglib-extras, the qtscriptgenerator (apachelogger did build one that works btw, use it on another machine) and liblastfm now [20:50] actually, there are jaunty packages for both taglib-extras and qtscriptgenerator that work [20:55] i have a problem with the amarok music player [20:56] i can't play musics in mp3 format [21:04] nantal: install libxine1-ffmpeg, and please, use #kubuntu for support questions [21:06] ok, thank you [21:07] you are welcome :) [21:09] oh, thank you very much, it works again :D [21:14] nantal: and this is not Amaroks fault, it's a license problem, we can not ship those by default because of restrictions in some countries [21:15] * Mamarok notes that missing codecs should be proposed automatically for Amarok in Kubuntu *hint* [21:17] Mamarok: If I'm not mistaken there is KNotify popup which suggests installing additional packages :> [21:18] Quintasan: that's the theory... [21:19] well it showed up for me after installation [21:19] Quintasan: never seen that happen in real life on Jaunty so far, guess why we have so many support request for mp3 not working... [21:19] coming mainly from Kubuntu users [21:19] Quintasan: also, it shows up for gstreamer, but not for xine [21:20] hmm I think it should get fixed once for all [21:20] however my coding skills are almost 0 :< [21:21] Mamarok: this is with the kubuntu packages that it's not asking for codecs? [21:21] btw will support for replaygain in xine be implemnted in 2.2? gstreamer is a piece of... [21:21] it's expected that it wouldn't work for ubuntu users since they don't normally have update-notfier-kde installed [21:21] but if they're using the kubuntu packages in kubuntu then it should ask for the codecs [21:22] JontheEchidna: hm, and we get tons of angry users who can't play music in Amarok... [21:22] all I've ever seen are bug reports from ubuntu users [21:22] JontheEchidna: nope, check the logs for #kubuntu, those are Kubuntu users new to Jaunty, most have never seen that pop up [21:23] and we have most of them in #amarok anyway, and in bugzilla [21:23] nick rickspencer3 [21:23] slash... === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 [21:32] Tonio_: ping [21:33] Quintasan: reviewing ;) [21:33] thanks fo the reminder [21:34] Tonio_: rev. 80 and I'm sorry for making small mess with commits :P [21:34] no pb :) [21:35] Tonio_: didn't merge my branch in and forgot to modify kdesudo.h and the signal. [21:35] freinhard: hu ? [21:36] Tonio_: try to compile rev38 [21:36] hum the problem is that you patched an old trunk and I had problem following your diff :) [21:36] freinhard: wan't trunk access ? that would easier [21:36] Tonio_: sure :) [21:37] freinhard: would be way easier than finding what you modified in a hudge diff :) [21:37] freinhard: just subscribe to the list please [21:37] s/list/team [21:38] freinhard: I'll approve you immediately [21:39] Tonio_: done [21:39] freinhard: approved :) [21:43] thx! still don't undestand why my version was to old. i modified r37, that's the latest version listed. [21:47] freinhard: hu ? [21:48] weird, I made a diff and it was realy hudge... missing translations and so on.... well nevermind, you can do whatever you want now :) [21:51] Tonio_: that's all i did: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~freinhard/kdesudo/return-exitcode/revision/38 [21:51] freinhard: I might have been drunk then :/ [21:54] Tonio_: k then i'll commit the rest of the changes. [21:54] freinhard: super ! [21:55] Tonio_: hope mine is good too :3 [21:57] Quintasan: it is [21:57] Quintasan: also I don't understand why the python script fails when started accross the link [21:57] Quintasan: especially since kblueplugd is in the same place, same kinda link, and doesn't have the same issue... [21:58] Tonio_: I don't know, if I remember correctly ScottK and rgreening couldnt solve it either. [21:58] but I hope that solution is acceptable [21:59] Quintasan: waiting for any better, this works [21:59] Quintasan: uploaded [22:00] Quintasan: would be interesting to ask Riddell is he has any idea of a better fix [22:00] Tonio_: I pinged him two times but I guess he has work to do [22:02] k [22:03] freinhard: request a pull === lukefeil_ is now known as lukefeil [22:13] dtchen: but where would you pull from? so i need some githost? [22:14] evening [22:14] freinhard: yes, you would need a publicly accessible git host [22:14] gitorious, github, ... [22:45] Tonio_: does a LP # in a commit message trigger the "fix commited" status change? [22:46] freinhard: fix released, yes [22:47] you can set it to fix committed if the fix is in bzr or upstream has committed the fix in their repos [22:47] right, was talking about bzr. [22:48] oh, dunno [22:48] freinhard: yup [22:48] I've never had it set it to fix committed automatically for me [22:49] i'll wait some more minutes for the magic to happen [23:07] freinhard: bzr commit --fixes lp:12345 [23:08] if you use that nifty utility which I forgot the name of and that generate commit messages from the changelog, I think it's done automatically [23:08] smarter_: thany you for the hint! [23:09] (damn, I really haven't packaged for a while) [23:09] 'night [23:11] Tonio_: looks like bug 258799 got fixed with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo/kdesudo/trunk-kde4/revision/35 ? [23:11] Launchpad bug 258799 in kdesudo "kdesudo incompatibility with kdesu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258799 [23:11] works for me here. === apachelogger is now known as hsitter [23:18] freinhard: I'll fix the changelog then if I can confirm this works [23:18] freinhard: id you commit your changes ? [23:19] Tonio__: yes i did. [23:19] ryanakca: You know the footer I was talking about earlier? That should not be there at all. The Copyright / License stuff and mention of a free license currently only applies to help.ubuntu.com (where ubuntunew is used)