| BUGabundo | sent | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | or not | 00:01 |
| BUGabundo | kmail crashed after sent | 00:01 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 00:01 |
| BUGabundo | not sent | 00:01 |
| BUGabundo | darn | 00:01 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| NCommander | asac, BTW, are you still awake? | 00:02 |
| BUGabundo | now its sent | 00:02 |
| BUGabundo | network-manager | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | network-manager-dev | 00:08 |
| BUGabundo | d'oh . forgot to add the PPA key | 00:13 |
| BUGabundo | now I see why Daviey has the PPA LOLOL | 00:13 |
| BUGabundo | well kids | 00:15 |
| BUGabundo | was a pleasure | 00:15 |
| BUGabundo | but need to restaert | 00:15 |
| asac | NCommander: not really ;) | 00:19 |
| NCommander | asac, I was wondering if you felt like commenting on my core dev app? | 00:20 |
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| armin76 | asac: haven't tried | 06:18 |
| asac | hi | 08:35 |
| e-jat | glxgear | 08:39 |
| e-jat | opss sorry wrong channel :( | 08:40 |
| e-jat | hi asac | 08:40 |
| asac | hi | 08:48 |
| === ripps_ is now known as ripps | ||
| asac | identi.ca is borked ... cannot sent any dents | 09:55 |
| asac | ok ... so no dent ;) | 09:56 |
| * asac extended lunch (running some errands and getting lunch afterwards) ... bbl | 09:58 | |
| fta | lunch at 11am? | 10:02 |
| fta | mozilla 469439 | 10:08 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 469439 in Plug-ins "Crash when enabling fullscreen flash video [@ @0x110430 ]" [Critical,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469439 | 10:08 |
| fta | another jemalloc bug | 10:08 |
| ripps | fta asac: just in case guys wanted to know, in case your doing a git ppa with git, here's how to get the latest release version using git tag: `git for-each-ref --format="%(taggerdate:raw)%(committerdate:raw)%(refname:short)" refs/tags | sort -n | tail -n1 | sed 's/^.*release-//;s/_/~/' | 10:10 |
| ripps | or at least, that's what I'm using with mpd | 10:11 |
| asac | ripps: git ppa with git? | 10:44 |
| asac | you mean a ppa that tracks tags from git hosted upstream? | 10:45 |
| asac | fta: running some errands first ;) | 10:45 |
| asac | basically sitting in train now for next 20 minutes ... sideeffect: testing 3g behaviour of these cool modems ;) | 10:46 |
| BUGabundo | hi | 12:08 |
| BUGabundo | asac: did you catch that dent last night? | 12:08 |
| BUGabundo | we have a regression | 12:09 |
| asac | jdstrand: up? | 12:41 |
| fta2 | asac, for some reason, *.cdbs-config_list is now part of the diff.gz when using bzr bd | 13:21 |
| asac | fta2: for me that was always the case | 13:24 |
| asac | at least i think | 13:24 |
| asac | you sure thats a regression? | 13:24 |
| fta2 | lintian complains about it, but i don't remember if it was there before | 13:26 |
| asac | maybe lintian started to complain. | 13:28 |
| jdstrand | asac: I am now. what's up? | 13:52 |
| asac | jdstrand: two things. tbird roll out -> its in ppa and ready | 13:54 |
| asac | (has been released while i was on holiday) | 13:55 |
| asac | jdstrand: other thing: dapper: what happens after jul 1 ... will all packages that are not server be removed? | 13:55 |
| jdstrand | asac: not removed, but not supported either. You can see http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-security/dapper/ for what the security team will support | 13:56 |
| jdstrand | an announcement should be made very soon | 13:57 |
| asac | ok so it makese sense to do a release close to the EOL ... as users still running dapper will still benefit from it | 13:57 |
| * jdstrand nods | 13:57 | |
| asac | jdstrand: i will talk to rick, but i think i should then stop work on everything and get as many CVEs fixed as possible | 13:58 |
| jdstrand | ok | 13:58 |
| asac | and then we have to figure what we can do in future. this monthly cycle really killed me. | 13:59 |
| jdstrand | asac: so, 2.0.0.22+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1 , 2.0.0.22+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1, 2.0.0.22+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1, and 2.0.0.22+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1.nspr474 are all ok to push? | 13:59 |
| asac | jdstrand: yes. please do some happy testing. on them | 13:59 |
| jdstrand | righto | 13:59 |
| jdstrand | yeah, the monthly thing is rough | 14:00 |
| jdstrand | at least it won't be as bad for a while, with ff3 and tbird2 being the only things 'officially' supported. of course, 3.5 is around the corner... | 14:01 |
| asac | jdstrand: yes. i think backports will work better from 3.5 to 3 | 14:01 |
| jdstrand | anyhoo, I'll test and publish tbird today | 14:02 |
| asac | once they abandon 3. | 14:02 |
| asac | which will be in december | 14:02 |
| asac | but still this is a bad situation. we are trying to get rid of the rdepends in karmic now | 14:02 |
| asac | so we might have the option to do major upgrades in future .... | 14:02 |
| jdstrand | asac: aiui, 3.5 will be the supported browser in karmic, correct? (like with hardy and 3.0) | 14:02 |
| asac | not sure if we will manage to get that up for next lts though | 14:03 |
| asac | jdstrand: yes. karmic. but hardy has 3.0 and upstream will EOL it in dec 2009 (assuming they release in a week or so) | 14:03 |
| * jdstrand nods | 14:03 | |
| asac | so we need 1 year backports if i get it right | 14:03 |
| asac | but its from 1.9.1 to 1.9 ... and not from 1.9 to 1.8 | 14:04 |
| asac | and hopefully most issues will be found in tracemonkey (jit js engine) which isnt in 1.9 | 14:04 |
| asac | besides from javascript that there werent much changes in core gecko engine (like in layout/content) | 14:05 |
| jdstrand | that is a welcome change :) | 14:05 |
| asac | next lts will probably be more fun | 14:07 |
| asac | in case we get 3.5.9 | 14:07 |
| asac | it will probably EOL just a year after we release | 14:08 |
| asac | and upstream might move to mozilla 2 ;) | 14:08 |
| asac | http://threatpost.com/blogs/google-fixes-critical-flaw-chrome-browser | 14:09 |
| asac | fta2: ^^ | 14:10 |
| asac | jdstrand: ^^ | 14:10 |
| asac | so seems that chrome is also in firedrill land ;) | 14:10 |
| asac | "This is the second time in two weeks that Google has had to push out a new version to address security vulnerabilities." | 14:10 |
| fta2 | asac, i know | 14:11 |
| * jdstrand nods his head sympathetically | 14:11 | |
| asac | fta2: can you please tell jdstrand if you get to know about such issues? we might need to fix webkit too | 14:11 |
| asac | jdstrand: or did you get this on vendor-sec? | 14:12 |
| fta2 | asac, i don't know the specifics but i was aware of those updates in the stable channel | 14:12 |
| asac | right. giving heads up that something security related got fixed (even without details) helps a lot | 14:13 |
| jdstrand | totally | 14:15 |
| jdstrand | Apple released a security update and we are still trying to sort out what applies to us | 14:16 |
| jdstrand | and by 'we', I mean the distribution vendors | 14:16 |
| fta2 | asac, jdstrand: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/branches/172/src/?view=log | 14:18 |
| fta2 | so http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=14508 | 14:18 |
| asac | thx | 14:20 |
| asac | jdstrand: ^^ seems there is a public exploit in that bug | 14:21 |
| jdstrand | asac, fta2: thanks | 14:25 |
| fta2 | asac, flash is stealing my inputs on amd64 too (ff 3.6) | 15:33 |
| fta2 | it's a regression | 15:34 |
| asac | fta2: what does "steeling input" mean? | 15:36 |
| fta2 | you can't type anything in the url bar, no cursor, no nothing | 15:37 |
| fta2 | can't select | 15:37 |
| fta2 | asac, what should i do to make o3d use nspluginwrapper on amd64? | 16:00 |
| fta2 | is there a spec somewhere? | 16:00 |
| asac | fta2: checkout the flashplugin-installer postinst | 16:01 |
| asac | also ship something like /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/dirs.d/flashplugin-installer | 16:02 |
| asac | that registers your plugin to be wrapped by the command run in postinst | 16:02 |
| fta2 | grrr, postinst | 16:04 |
| fta2 | evolution of my bot regarding build-deps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/203624/ | 16:14 |
| fta2 | hm, ripps is not there | 16:14 |
| fta2 | i meant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/203625/ | 16:14 |
| asac | you like binutils-gold? | 16:17 |
| asac | !info test | 16:32 |
| ubottu | Package test does not exist in jaunty | 16:32 |
| NCommander | asac, do you want me to change the compiler to 4.3 everywhere, or just on ARM? | 17:41 |
| asac | NCommander: just arm please | 17:44 |
| NCommander | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/203662/ - that should do the trick, right? | 17:47 |
| NCommander | (and the assorted control file change of course) | 17:48 |
| asac | NCommander: most likely. you could also match "arm" substring instead of eq | 17:49 |
| asac | NCommander: and remember to add a [arm] depend on gcc-4.3 etc. | 17:49 |
| asac | build-depend i mean | 17:49 |
| asac | NCommander: try to stick to current way of changelog formatting ;) | 17:49 |
| NCommander | asac, I do! | 17:50 |
| asac | yay | 17:50 |
| asac | ;) | 17:50 |
| NCommander | asac, I can rewrite the other changelog entry to do so | 17:50 |
| asac | just take care that all changes go in one changelog entry | 17:51 |
| asac | e.g. we didnt upload anything in between | 17:51 |
| NCommander | asac, np | 17:51 |
| asac | keep it at UNRELEASED | 17:51 |
| NCommander | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/203676/ - current debdiff, just doing some final testing before I kick a branch somewhere | 18:12 |
| asac | NCommander: the formatting is different to what we use normally | 18:15 |
| asac | e.g. we say what is done and then list the files touched by that op | 18:16 |
| asac | you say the files touched and then whats up ;) | 18:16 |
| asac | otherwise go ahead ;) | 18:23 |
| asac | i can shuffle the changelog format if you dont feel like it | 18:23 |
| asac | NCommander: oh pleaase prefix the patches with the bugzilla id in the commit | 18:24 |
| asac | e.g. bz345050_.....patch | 18:24 |
| asac | at least we want that for new patches ;) | 18:24 |
| asac | thats it | 18:25 |
| asac | give it to me ;) | 18:25 |
| NCommander | asac, I don't have a bugzilla number | 18:26 |
| NCommander | THat's the 1.13 commit that had a blocked id | 18:26 |
| NCommander | *blotched | 18:28 |
| asac | NCommander: but the other commit has a bug? | 18:28 |
| NCommander | asac, oh that one (that's Loic's, I can change that one eaisly) | 18:29 |
| asac | NCommander: its mozilla bug 339782 | 18:30 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 339782 in XPCOM "[ARM] XPTC_InvokeByIndex crashes when cross-compiled under GCC 3.4.x with EABI (CodeSourcery)" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339782 | 18:31 |
| asac | (1.13) | 18:31 |
| NCommander | That's it | 18:31 |
| asac | yeah | 18:31 |
| NCommander | YOur bugzilla searching skills far outstrip mine | 18:31 |
| NCommander | (I tried google, and didn't find it :-/) | 18:31 |
| asac | NCommander: hehe | 18:31 |
| asac | painful learning ;) | 18:31 |
| asac | so rename both patches and adapt the changelog formatting t... that would be perfect ;) otherwise i can change formatting on merge | 18:32 |
| NCommander | ok, fixed up | 18:34 |
| asac | great | 18:34 |
| asac | push ... request merge | 18:35 |
| asac | and then all flies ;) | 18:35 |
| NCommander | asac, probably should test build it on x86/arm fully first before upload | 18:35 |
| asac | NCommander: ok. push it with ~mcas to your native ppa | 18:36 |
| asac | but request merge anyway. i dont think there will be problems | 18:36 |
| NCommander | Pushing now | 18:36 |
| NCommander | asac, merge request filed | 18:45 |
| asac | NCommander: err ... thats against wrong branch | 18:54 |
| asac | rejected | 18:54 |
| asac | thunderbird.dev is the right target branch | 18:54 |
| NCommander | Argh, LP picked the wrong one :-/ | 18:54 |
| asac | yes ;) | 18:55 |
| asac | can you rerequest | 18:55 |
| asac | ? | 18:55 |
| NCommander | yeah, doing so | 18:56 |
| NCommander | asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mcasadevall/thunderbird/arm-segfault-fixes/+merge/7902 | 18:57 |
| asac | merged and uploading | 19:07 |
| asac | err ... waiting for your ack though | 19:07 |
| asac | let me know if all is fine in your ppa | 19:07 |
| NCommander | asac, might take awhile, the buildds are clogged with a toolchain build | 19:08 |
| asac | NCommander: i386 is building so we can at least verify that | 19:09 |
| asac | (armel is probably tested already) | 19:09 |
| NCommander | asac, it hasn't been tested sans debug and w/ optimizations | 19:10 |
| NCommander | asac, are we going to backport 2.0.0.22 to Jaunty, or do I need to backport to that release (it should be trivial but I'd like to know) | 19:10 |
| asac | NCommander: the idea is to get it committed upstream so we will automatically get it in .23 | 19:13 |
| NCommander | asac, but how does that get into jaunty? | 19:13 |
| asac | NCommander: .23 update? same as .22 got into jaunty | 19:14 |
| asac | security update | 19:14 |
| NCommander | .22 is in jaunty? | 19:14 |
| NCommander | nifty | 19:14 |
| asac | should be | 19:15 |
| NCommander | although I'm not sure if this would qualify as a security update IMHO | 19:15 |
| asac | well. latest tonight. jdstrand is on it | 19:15 |
| asac | NCommander: security/stability update | 19:15 |
| asac | thats how the title of our uploads are called | 19:15 |
| NCommander | Ah, makes sense | 19:15 |
| NCommander | so once we're Fix Released in karmic and that's confirmed, then it will be released into *-security? | 19:15 |
| asac | however, i wouldnt like to put that patch into jaunty without going through upstream | 19:15 |
| NCommander | s/*/jaunty/g | 19:15 |
| asac | beceause i want them to review the changes for eventual risks before pushing that into a stable release | 19:16 |
| asac | NCommander: no. the changes you did will not get into jaunty automatically | 19:16 |
| asac | we have different branches | 19:16 |
| NCommander | asac, no, that I got :-) | 19:16 |
| asac | its just that if we get it committed upstream | 19:16 |
| asac | ah ok | 19:16 |
| asac | it will come back everywhere (e.g. hardy -> karmic) | 19:16 |
| NCommander | asac, what happens if upstream rejects the change? (you said TB2 is more or less on ice) | 19:17 |
| asac | NCommander: they wont reject it if there is no risk | 19:17 |
| asac | its just that they wont put any work into things | 19:17 |
| asac | but we will see ;) | 19:17 |
| NCommander | Considering its a backport of their own code ... | 19:18 |
| asac | i guess they will allow me to commit it | 19:18 |
| NCommander | :-) | 19:18 |
| asac | ffox 1.8 is end of life | 19:18 |
| asac | so thats no risk | 19:18 |
| asac | yeah | 19:18 |
| NCommander | asac, ah, I didn't know you had upstream commit rights | 19:18 |
| asac | NCommander: yeah. but in the end it doesnt matter much. we need review/superreview/approval for stable branches | 19:18 |
| asac | its just that you dont need to beg someone to commit ;) | 19:18 |
| NCommander | asac, of course, and hopefully you can find someone who can review and superreview quickly | 19:19 |
| asac | yes | 19:19 |
| asac | i think we will get someone | 19:19 |
| asac | at least for .23 we will have an answer | 19:19 |
| NCommander | ARe we going to have to wait for upstream .23? | 19:20 |
| asac | preferably yes | 19:20 |
| asac | besides from review we would also get professional QA and baking et al | 19:21 |
| NCommander | Right | 19:21 |
| asac | so that would be safer to push out to stable users | 19:21 |
| NCommander | Any idea on what the release cycle for TB2 looks like? | 19:21 |
| asac | yes. 3 month. unless there is a firedrill | 19:22 |
| asac | 1.9 branches have monthly security | 19:22 |
| asac | but we are on 1.8 | 19:23 |
| asac | anyway. lets first get this into karmic. and verified | 19:23 |
| asac | we can then decide what to do | 19:23 |
| NCommander | Right, no problem, I'm just completely new at Mozilla hacking ;-) | 19:25 |
| asac | we have a bunch of exciting excersizes ;) ... like backporting many security patches | 19:37 |
| asac | fta: can you still submit anything from identi.ca webform? | 19:43 |
| asac | i always get http errors | 19:43 |
| asac | "Sorry! We had trouble sending your notice (400 Bad Request). Please report the problem to the site administrator if this happens again." | 19:44 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| fta | asac, on the web? i can't even login | 19:56 |
| fta | "There was a problem with your session token. Try again, please." | 19:56 |
| fta | ppa builders crowded :P | 20:03 |
| asac | fta: hmm. odd | 20:13 |
| asac | too bad there is no identica channel here on freenode | 20:13 |
| fta | yep, it's somewhere else, i don't remember | 20:15 |
| fta | hm, i thought adding lintian to build-deps was enough to have it automatically run at the end of the build, apparently not. | 20:27 |
| fta | oh, it's debuild | 20:28 |
| fta | is there a hook in cdbs after _changes is created? | 20:29 |
| asac | fta: in worst case you can use the same target, just below hte includes i guess | 20:37 |
| fta | which target? | 20:37 |
| fta | binary-makedeb doesn't seem to include the dpkg-genchanges call | 20:38 |
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| fta | BUGabundo, does the identi.ca website work for you? i get "There was a problem with your session token. Try again, please." when i try to login | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | somewhat | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | not always | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | gwibber is not posting | 21:29 |
| asac | fta: hmm. genchanges is probably done by dpkg-buildpackage directly | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | xmpp down | 21:29 |
| asac | so most likely not | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | I'm sooooooo sad | 21:29 |
| asac | jcastro: identi.ca dead? | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | and I need to vent! | 21:29 |
| fta | Mook_sb, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28379530/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.songbird_1.3.0~a~svn20090625r14078-0ubuntu1~usd1~hardy_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz *without* system gst | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | have a job interview tomorrow | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | this is soooo oun fair | 21:29 |
| asac | BUGabundo: good luck! | 21:29 |
| Mook_sb | fta: damn, that thing must hate me :p | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | thanks asac | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | asac: -1 on using wireless togle to kill 3G | 21:30 |
| asac | BUGabundo: so did you test your 3g carf with mm? | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | now I have no safe way to disconect wifi | 21:30 |
| Mook_sb | install -c -m 0755 /build/buildd/songbird-1.3.0~a~svn20090625r14078/build-tree/songbird/compiled/dist/gst-plugins/libgstcoreelements.so <- missing an argument :/ | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | its working alright | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | that reminds me | 21:30 |
| asac | BUGabundo: yeah right | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | I have FW off | 21:30 |
| fta | Mook_sb, yep, but it's not my code ;) | 21:30 |
| asac | BUGabundo: signal strength et al? | 21:30 |
| asac | BUGabundo: did you try to change your PIN? | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | ahh it was ON | 21:31 |
| Mook_sb | fta: yeah, I think that means the source file was missing, IIRC? | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | asac: I don't see anything like that | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | where should I look? | 21:31 |
| asac | BUGabundo: then you dont have all the latest maybe | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | maybe | 21:31 |
| asac | BUGabundo: the applet has signal strength | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | let me fetch updates | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | I still have the antena | 21:31 |
| asac | the pin function is in connectoin editor | 21:31 |
| Mook_sb | fta: current buildbot says install -c -m 0755 /builds/songbird/trunk/sb_integ_trunk_linux64/trunk/dependencies/linux-x86_64/gstreamer/release/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstcoreelements.so /builds/songbird/trunk/sb_integ_trunk_linux64/trunk/compiled/dist/gst-plugins/libgstcoreelements.so instead... | 21:32 |
| asac | BUGabundo: you probably didnt downgrade nm applet ... but now we hsould have a higher version in there, so maybe you get it automatically | 21:32 |
| fta | hmm | 21:32 |
| Mook_sb | fta: I don't see you building non-system-gstreamer? | 21:34 |
| fta | Mook_sb, hm, right, i'll have a look ;) | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | asac: ~$ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 21:34 |
| * Mook_sb only sees the taglib build, plus the XR (which looks different due to issues on our side) | 21:34 | |
| fta | yeah, my bad | 21:36 |
| fta | i always built it with system gst | 21:36 |
| Mook_sb | it's all right; I'm used enough to everything being _our_ bad that I'm as surprised as you are :D | 21:36 |
| asac | BUGabundo: i dont know you need modemmanager | 21:38 |
| asac | dont think you get new packages on safe-upgrade | 21:38 |
| asac | use apt-get dist-upgrade ;) | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | errr | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | doesn't saf-up get me the same as dist? but better managed? | 21:39 |
| fta | asac, gwibber seems fine to me | 21:39 |
| asac | i guess not the karmic version | 21:40 |
| fta | karmic it is | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | I use daily ppa | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | its the only way to use gwibber | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | that or trunk (when it builds) | 21:44 |
| fta | oh, i meant daily/karmic :P | 21:47 |
| fta | BUGabundo, o3d-plugin_0.1.38.0~svn20090619r18874-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | what for | 21:47 |
| BUGabundo | ? | 21:47 |
| fta | want to test it? | 21:48 |
| * BUGabundo grrr still can't get into idenica | 21:48 | |
| BUGabundo | not today! | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | to stress out | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | with job and identica down | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | :(( | 21:48 |
| fta | job down? | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | no | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | hope job UP | 21:49 |
| BUGabundo | will see | 21:49 |
| fta | oh, ok. "(with job) and (identica down)" | 22:05 |
| fta | lol | 22:05 |
| fta | too much code | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | ahahaaahahahhaaha | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | RD, sorry, have to | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | fta: XMPP alive woot | 22:16 |
| asac | two bad intel still locks up when i set screen to powersave | 22:40 |
| asac | hard reset required | 22:40 |
| asac | (haveent tried to ssh in) | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | not here | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | but I can't hibernate or suspend | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | It make REAL damage to data on disk | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 22:41 |
| asac | heh | 22:42 |
| asac | ext4? | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | nop | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | 3 | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | all boots now are proced by FSCK | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 22:43 |
| asac | suspend at least works here. i must not close the lid though before its sleeping | 22:45 |
| asac | because that triggers screen powersave | 22:45 |
| asac | which causes hang | 22:45 |
| asac | ;) | 22:45 |
| asac | i never hibernate | 22:45 |
| asac | doesnt make much sense imo | 22:45 |
| asac | booting is fast enough for that | 22:45 |
| micahg | asac: does hibernate do anything on linux? | 22:45 |
| asac | yes | 22:45 |
| asac | it swaps the memory to your swap device (so only works if your swap partition is bigger than your main mem) | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | oh if I unplug power it won't power off | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | 50% of the time hibernate won't poweroff | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | shutdown jams 5% of the time | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | asac: I resume in 10-15 secs from hibernate | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | I boot in 1:40 min | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | so it DOES make a diff for me | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | otoh it takes like 1min to hibernate | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | and halt only 10 sec | 22:47 |
| micahg | ah, maybe that's my problem | 22:54 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: which one | 22:57 |
| micahg | swap space | 22:57 |
| asac | not enough swap i guess | 22:57 |
| micahg | it's equal to my main memory | 22:57 |
| asac | :) | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: at least the same amount as used RAM | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | plus some for stuff that stays in swap | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | used to be a rule of tumb to have 2.5xRAM | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | of course I use compression, with uscup | 22:58 |
| fta | asac, wanna do a quick test for me on x64? (i can't from here) | 23:00 |
| asac | fta: have no access to my machine unfortunately :( | 23:00 |
| asac | tomorrow evening i will be back | 23:00 |
| fta | ok | 23:00 |
| asac | a new ia32 libs? | 23:00 |
| fta | anyone else on 64bit with a gpu? | 23:01 |
| fta | nope, o3d | 23:01 |
| asac | BUGabundo: ^^ | 23:01 |
| asac | he runs 64bit flash ;) | 23:01 |
| fta | he said he's busy | 23:01 |
| asac | hmm ok | 23:01 |
| fta | or i should just create a ppa and push there | 23:02 |
| asac | why not ;) | 23:02 |
| asac | then you can dent about it and i redent and maybe that catches some first testers | 23:02 |
| asac | (if i could dent at all ;)) | 23:02 |
| asac | website doesnt work in trunk build | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | asac: still busy catching up | 23:02 |
| asac | in 3.0 it works like every 5th attempt | 23:02 |
| asac | sure | 23:02 |
| asac | all ok | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | got a few hunders emails last night | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | grr | 23:02 |
| fta | i would prefer at least 1 test on x64, i'm not even sure my thing worked | 23:03 |
| asac | fta: yeah. ut if its a new ppa, there is not much you can loose. | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | gwibber is up for me | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | XMPP is lagged on identica | 23:03 |
| asac | i dont think lots will jump on it if we send one dent and say that its untested ;) | 23:03 |
| fta | http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/o3d-plugin_0.1.38.0~svn20090619r18874-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | getting detns from 8h ago with CURRENT time | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | I still have NO idea what o3d is | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | so I can't really test it , can I ? | 23:04 |
| fta | ok, back to yesterday's debate, ppa location for this | 23:04 |
| asac | lets see if gwibber still crashes | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | asac: updates _finally_ done | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | need to restart? | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | d'oh | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo aptitude install modemmanager | 23:05 |
| asac | BUGabundo: dist-upgrade should pull in modemmanager with NM etc. | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. | 23:05 |
| fta | oh, is this new? https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+ppa-packages | 23:06 |
| asac | BUGabundo: dpkg -l network-manager | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | ii network-manager 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm1 network management framework daemon | 23:07 |
| asac | BUGabundo: and network-manager-applet | 23:09 |
| asac | ? | 23:09 |
| asac | BUGabundo: and modemmanager? | 23:09 |
| asac | err | 23:09 |
| asac | network-manager-gnome ;) | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | netwrok * | 23:09 |
| BUGabundo | here goes flood | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | to lazy to open firefox | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | ii network-config 0.2-1 Simple network configuration tool | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | ii network-manager 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm1 network management framework daemon | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | pn network-manager-dbgsym <none> (no description available) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | ii network-manager-dev 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm1 network management framework (development files) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | ii network-manager-gnome 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm1 network management framework (GNOME frontend) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | pn network-manager-gnome-dbg <none> (no description available) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | un network-manager-kde <none> (no description available) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | ii network-manager-openvpn 0.7.1~rc4.1.20090323+bzr2 network management framework (OpenVPN plugin) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | ii network-manager-pptp 0.7.1~rc4.20090316+bzr23- network management framework (PPTP plugin) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | pn network-manager-pptp-dbgs <none> (no description available) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | pn network-manager-vpnc <none> (no description available) | 23:10 |
| asac | BUGabundo: yeah thats ok. what about modemmangaer? | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | pn networkstatus <none> (no description available) | 23:10 |
| asac | hmm | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | oh wait... I have pastebinit ... darn too late | 23:10 |
| asac | long paste ;) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | $ dpkg -l network* | pastebinit | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/203820/ | 23:10 |
| asac | yeah you didnt even poast modemmanager ;) | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | I did | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | asac: ii modemmanager 0.2.git5.43a5923-0ubuntu1 D-Bus service for managing modems | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | see log | 23:11 |
| asac | that looks ok | 23:11 |
| asac | so is a process called modem-manager running? | 23:11 |
| asac | seems you are using modemmanager | 23:12 |
| asac | so if you still see the antenna thing, it might mean you use a modem for which signal strength istn supported (yet?) | 23:12 |
| asac | what driver is that? | 23:12 |
| BUGabundo | option | 23:13 |
| BUGabundo | speed Unknown | 23:13 |
| BUGabundo | Security Unknown | 23:13 |
| asac | syslog | 23:14 |
| asac | psate please ... did you restart | 23:14 |
| asac | ? | 23:14 |
| asac | you need to restart for sure ;) | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | NO | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | duh | 23:14 |
| asac | heh | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | now you tell me | 23:14 |
| asac | wasnt there a "restart required notifiation"? | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | no | 23:15 |
| fta | ~blablabla/od3/o3d.head... grrrr | 23:15 |
| BUGabundo | unless its hidden in the background | 23:15 |
| asac | its probably in the background ;) | 23:16 |
| asac | hehe | 23:16 |
| * BUGabundo minimizes all 20 wind one by one | 23:16 | |
| asac | well restart | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo | nothing here | 23:16 |
| asac | dont bother | 23:17 |
| asac | ;) | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | yeha | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | gona wait for tomorrow | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | or next crahs | 23:17 |
| BUGabundo | what ever comes 1st | 23:18 |
| * asac sends some bustage to BUGabundo ;) | 23:18 | |
| * BUGabundo blows it way | 23:18 | |
| * BUGabundo sees the cloud overing over fta | 23:18 | |
| micahg | BUGabundo: in xfce there's a button you can add for it :) | 23:21 |
| BUGabundo | ah?? | 23:21 |
| BUGabundo | I use gnome micahg | 23:21 |
| micahg | minimize all windows | 23:21 |
| * asac_ reconnected | 23:21 | |
| BUGabundo | (11:18:21 PM) ***asac sends some bustage to BUGabundo ;) | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | (11:18:52 PM) ***freenode blows it way | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | (11:19:05 PM) ***freenode sees the cloud overing over fta | 23:24 |
| asac_ | yeah got that | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: so does mine | 23:24 |
| asac_ | too bad that identi.ca is useless now for me | 23:24 |
| asac_ | broken in gwibber in karmic | 23:24 |
| asac_ | and broken on website | 23:25 |
| BUGabundo | works here | 23:26 |
| fta | BUGabundo, well, i don't like big teams with same privileges for everyone, but that's what asac wants.. so i don't know what to do | 23:27 |
| BUGabundo | way out of Topic fta LOL | 23:28 |
| BUGabundo | but yeah I agree it needs more controls | 23:28 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| fta | hm, tried od3 with a remote ff, it doesn't work | 23:36 |
| BUGabundo | what the heck is od3?? | 23:37 |
| fta | http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2009/04/google-releases-3d-graphics-plugin-for-browsers.ars | 23:39 |
| fta | http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ | 23:39 |
| fta | o3d, not od3 | 23:39 |
| fta | grr, broken on x64 | 23:43 |
| BUGabundo | fta: thanks for making me open yet another page :\ | 23:45 |
| BUGabundo | ahhh open 3d | 23:45 |
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