[01:00] <lukjad007> Hi, are there any freenode ops here?
[01:00] <bazhang> lukjad007, in #freenode
[01:01] <lukjad007> I see. Okay. Someone mentioned this channel. Thanks :)
[01:01] <elky_work> bazhang, um, if it's an ubuntu issue, he's only going to get palmed back here in a more irritated state.
[01:02] <bazhang> elky_work, he asked for *freenode* ops , then made a comment about here and immediately quit
[01:03] <elky_work> bazhang, becausr all you said was 'in #freenode'. not something like 'we are only ops for ubuntu channels. if it's not ubuntu related then #freenode is your best bet'
 i m new to this.....whats irc
[02:14] <Pici> Not everyone knows what IRC is
[02:17] <bazhang> true
[02:17] <bazhang> ironic it was said using irc though
[03:47] <bazhang> want to take a break, but Smis just entered #ubuntu 
[05:29] <Pici> bazhang: I wouldn't waste your breath in #freenode, its a train wreck without someone there with power to moderate.
[05:29] <bazhang> Pici, too true. double bot attack
[06:52] <rww> I would like to point out the /incredibly important/ bug that "* ubottu pulls out his louisville slugger and uses..." is inconsistant with ubottu being female.
[08:21] <bazhang> balzac was unbanned?
[08:21] <bazhang> yep
[09:44] <Flannel> ubottu: tell TamCore about away
[09:46] <Myrtti> that's the second time he's been told
[11:43] <elky> keep an eye out for bacta, he's trolling #f as we speak
[11:45] <Mamarok> #f would be? Freenode?
[11:46] <elky> yes
[11:46] <elky> just got voiced in #defocus, so now he's trolling there too
[11:49] <Mamarok> arghs, he really is resistent to learning, isn't he?
[11:51] <ikonia> okey dokey
[12:02]  * jussi01 waves to ikonia
[12:02] <jussi01> and giggles at all the people talking to the muted bacta in #f
[12:03] <ikonia> happy to talk to him
[12:03] <ikonia> he can't respond
[12:47] <TheFunkbomb> Hey, can someone lift my ban on #ubuntu-offtopic?
[13:03] <TheFunkbomb> hello?
[13:03]  * Myrtti looks
[13:05] <Myrtti> OH BOY
[13:05] <Myrtti> wrong move
[13:05] <Myrtti> next?
[13:06] <elky> TheFunkbomb, depends, are you going to apologise for doing the wrong thing properly yet?
[13:07] <TheFunkbomb> I did
[13:07] <elky> no you didn't. you apologised that we got upset. that's not the same thing.
[13:07] <TheFunkbomb> I said I was sorry that I broke the rules
[13:08] <elky> and you're sorry why?
[13:08] <TheFunkbomb> because I broke the rules
[13:08] <elky> i just want to know you understand why it was wrong.
[13:09] <elky> not 'because it was against the rules'. i'd prefer the reason why it's against the rules.
[13:09] <TheFunkbomb> I understand why.
[13:09] <TheFunkbomb> I think the whole thing is clear to everyone
[13:10] <elky> i'm still not convinced you understand.
[13:10] <elky> every time you get asked to say it, you run. that makes me concerned you've learned nothing from this.
[13:10] <TheFunkbomb> I have other things to do.
[13:11] <elky> see, there you go. running again.
[13:12] <TheFunkbomb> I didn't run.  I was explaining why I have to leave sometimes
[13:13] <elky> then now that you're back, you can explain your understanding.
[13:13] <TheFunkbomb> I was wrong to ask people to help harass a woman
[13:13] <TheFunkbomb> happy?
[13:14] <elky> yes. that's all we were ever after.
[13:14] <TheFunkbomb> hasn't it been said?  Jesus
[13:14] <elky> no.
[13:16] <elky> you always responded with something that either equated 'im sorry you got offended' or 'i have other things to do' 
[13:17] <elky> the ban is now lifted. it could have been lifted months ago.
[13:19] <elky> there's no need for you to stay here.
[13:33] <Tm_T> elky: hrrr, nice fellow that
[13:33] <elky> absolute charmer
[13:48] <Myrtti> kinja-sheep: how can we help you? the person you suggested to be banned left #ubuntu already
[13:49] <kinja-sheep> Myrtti: Ahh.  Nothing then, I guess. :<
 hello?
 yes?
 I heard you're a jew, I need some advice from a fellow jew
 find a jewish channel.
 what do you do if someone does this?
         [13:54] <Pici> Seveas: we believe  you
 Like do you cry?
[13:54] <Seveas> with the [13:54] <Seveas> just wanted to clarify what the person did
[13:54] <bazhang> ugh
[13:54] <elky> just the text would have sufficed
[13:54] <elky> or a pastebin
[14:00] <Gary> think I scared smiffy by asking what he was doing in pm
[14:05] <jussi01> Gary: you scare everyone... :P
[14:05] <Gary> true
[14:23] <Pici> I could have sworn that we had a factoid abuse factoid other that !msgthebot
[14:25] <bazhang> botabuse ?
[14:26] <Pici> bazhang: I mean for people who blindly throw factoids at people without actually paying attention to what they're asking.
[14:26] <bazhang> Pici, maybe need a new one
[14:27] <bazhang> something with sebsebseb in it
[16:15] <Myrtti> what's his point now?
[16:45] <Pici> Hm?
[16:46] <Myrtti> /last TheFunkbomb
[16:46] <Pici> Myrtti: here?
[16:46] <Myrtti> no
[16:46] <Myrtti> -offtopic
[17:07] <Pici> hrm
[17:07] <ikonia> I just saw it too
[17:09] <Pici> I'm not sure if that was a server re-linking or a real mass join
[17:09] <Pici> I guess we'll see
[17:09] <ikonia> it looked like a irc server rjoining
[17:09] <ikonia> re
[19:46] <Seeker`> nickspeeen ?
[19:46] <nickspeeen> Seeker`!
[19:46] <Pici> speeeeeen
[19:48] <Seeker`> speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
[19:50]  * Pici sighs
[19:50] <Pici> Someone who claims to know what their doing with root, but also doesnt know the command to set the password o.O
[20:06] <Pici> Neat, this gtrans plugin actually worked.
[20:06]  * Pici thanks nal-ioth for suggesting it
[20:22]  * Pici sighs
[20:22] <Seeker`> Pici: whats wrong?
[20:22] <Pici> Seeker`: Just annoyed at some people
[20:22] <Seeker`> :P
[20:23] <Seeker`> :(
[20:23] <ikonia> it's all good Pici, have a moment to yourself
[20:30] <Seeker`> bigzed: how can we help you?
[20:37] <Seeker`> bigzed: please don't idle in here
[20:38] <Tm_T> Seeker`: hmm, banforward, I presume?
[20:39] <ikonia> yup
[20:39] <Pici> yes
[20:39] <ikonia> I did it
[20:40] <Tm_T> aye, his host revealed it, kinda
[20:42] <ikonia> bigzed: hi there
[20:44] <ikonia> needs removing from #xubuntu also 
[20:44] <ikonia> bigzed: hello I know your at your keyboard as your joining different channels
[20:46] <ikonia> bigzed: if you chose not to respond we are unable to discuss you being banned from the #ubuntu channel
[20:55] <Pici> ikonia: I agree that the host is not good, but we haven't historically banned for things like this. 
[20:56] <Myrtti> haven't we...
[20:56] <Pici> Myrtti: Have we?
[20:56] <Myrtti> why would hostname part of the host be any different from ident or nick?
[20:56] <Myrtti> of course we have
[20:56] <Pici> I can imaginine nal saying something about it.
[20:57] <Myrtti> choo him to #freenode to get a cloak...?
[20:57] <Pici> Myrtti: Then why don't we have that in our bans. We have *fuck*!*@* and *!*fuck*@*
[20:57] <ikonia> BT shows a ton of hosts with abuse
[21:00]  * Pici wonders what Kanappa is on about it #u
[21:00]  * Pici is also going home
[21:02] <ikonia> fed up with it - if the channel is "that bad" - leave
[21:03] <Mamarok> bigzed: don't idle here, please
[21:03] <ikonia> I'll change the forward to a ban
[21:04] <ikonia> actually - I won't
[22:03] <Flannel> Er, what's with people being standoffish today?
[22:16] <ikonia> Flannel what do you mean ?
[22:17] <Flannel> someone repeated their question four times in three minutes, got the !repeat factoid, and then proceeded to !botabuse the factoider.
[22:17] <ikonia> does seem to be a funny few days
[22:48] <ikonia> @mark knappa #ubuntu total timewaster claims to be the maintainer on 30 ubuntu packages and has been monitoring me for 10 years and other such random nonsense
[22:57] <Flannel> Kanappa
[22:58] <Flannel> (fixed in BT)
[22:59] <ikonia> Flannel: ahhh thank you
[23:05] <Flannel> sigh
[23:05] <Flannel> this is worse than release
[23:05] <ikonia> I've just warned grant-a about referncing autistic kids as swine flu carriers
[23:06] <ikonia> these regular issue users need to be put on final warnings in my opinion as it's clear they just waste time/space
[23:19] <Flannel> Howdy adamb_
[23:19] <adamb_> hi
[23:19] <adamb_> unban me pls
[23:19] <adamb_> =)
[23:20] <Flannel> adamb_: What reason do I have to do so?
[23:20] <adamb_> i wont tell you to shut up again
[23:21] <adamb_> and keep on topic
[23:21] <adamb_> =)
[23:21] <ikonia> ok so this conversation ends
[23:21] <adamb_> eh?
[23:22] <ikonia> if you can't speak to people who are trying to resolve your queries politley the conversation ends
[23:22] <ikonia> Flannel: apologies for stepping on your toes, 
[23:23] <Flannel> ikonia: Oh, none needed.
[23:23] <ikonia> adamb_: please leave the channel and come back when you can talk to people without being rude
[23:24] <adamb_> What? I told him the reasoning of why he should unban me. I have no clue what you are talking about.
[23:24] <ikonia> "shut up"
[23:24] <adamb_> i told him what I did and that I wouldn't do it again.
[23:24] <ikonia> that's not a reason to unban you - that's you just being rude
[23:24] <adamb_> Did you read something incorrectly?
[23:25] <ikonia> adamb_: scroll up and re-read the conversation. You did not say you wouldn't do anything again - you just said "shut up" and "stay on topic" 
[23:25] <ikonia> oh wait - I see what you're saying 
[23:25] <ikonia> you want say "shut up" again
[23:25] <ikonia> won't
[23:25] <ikonia> not "I won't tell you again to shut up"
[23:25] <ikonia> my apologies
[23:25] <ikonia> Flannel: again - my apologies to you too
[23:26] <adamb_> Ahhh im confused.
[23:26] <Flannel> ikonia: No worries.
[23:26] <Flannel> adamb_: Do you understand how being offtopic is disruptive to the channel/
[23:26] <adamb_> Yes I understand, I dont agree with making a statement like I did was off topic but I understand.
[23:26] <ikonia> @mark kanappa #ubuntu appears to be vertix
[23:27] <Flannel> adamb_: Why don't you think such a statement is offtopic?
[23:28] <adamb_> correction, i know it was off topic, but it was just a statement of someone passing away, i dont agree with that being a "violation" but i dont make rules..
[23:28] <adamb_> I will follow them though, i understand why they are in place
[23:29] <Flannel> adamb_: There are 1500 people in #ubuntu, we don't need headline news.
[23:29] <Flannel> There are plenty of other avenues, and even channels, that you can do to discuss such things.  #ubuntu is strictly support, because if it wasn't, it would be unusable.
[23:29] <adamb_> i understand =)
[23:30] <Flannel> Alright, just so that we won't run into future problems, please read over the IRC guidelines before I remove the forward: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:32] <adamb_> ok I have read, will keep that bookmarked
[23:32] <Flannel> Sounds good.
[23:32] <Flannel> Forward's removed.  Please rejoin #ubuntu to verify
[23:35] <adamb_> TY!
[23:45] <RichiH> michael jackson died some minutes ago. expect trollfests
[23:46] <ikonia> on it already 
[23:46] <Flannel> I'm still not sure he's dead, but yeah, thanks.
[23:46] <bazhang> him and Farrah
[23:46] <ikonia> day 1 announces has no cash, day 2 annoucnes $people are suing him for $$$$$$$$$$$$ day 3 he's dead
[23:47] <Flannel> Day 4: He's not dead, egg on plenty of news agencies faces for buying into twidiots
[23:53] <RichiH> http://www.cinemablend.com/celebrity/Michael-Jackson-Dead-At-50-Confirmed-18342.html
[23:53] <RichiH> Flannel: 
[23:55] <Flannel> right, they're citing TMZ
[23:55] <Seeker`> BBC have just reported that he has died
[23:55] <ikonia> good enough for me
[23:56] <Seeker`> ditto
[23:56] <Seeker`> not as good as netcraft, but good enough
[23:56] <Flannel> When I see a real story on it, I'll believe it.  Until then, I have no opinion, since everyone's just being sensational and jumping on the bandwagon.
[23:57] <ikonia> BBC's normally quiet solid
[23:57] <Flannel> LA Times said "He died" in the headline, and then the actual article said that they confirmed from the officials at the hospital that his heart had stopped, and he wasn't breathing when he was in the ambulance, and that someone saw a family member rush out of the room in tears.
[23:57] <Flannel> Not *exactly* the same as someone confirming his death.
[23:57] <ikonia> agreed
[23:57] <ikonia> the wording is clever
[23:58] <Seeker`> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8119993.stm
[23:58] <Seeker`> Flannel: good enough for you?
[23:59] <Flannel> "Reports say"
[23:59] <Flannel> that's the only credence that article has, ... so, no.