[00:10] <jetole_> does anyone know how to configure unattended-upgrade?
[00:12] <mathiaz> kirkland: hey - just updated my kvm on my hardy server - got this sequence: http://paste.ubuntu.com/203215/
[00:12] <mathiaz> kirkland: kvm from the ubuntu-virt PPA
[00:12] <mathiaz> kirkland: it seems that the kvm module hasn't been reloaded
[00:14] <jetole> for what it
[00:14] <kirkland> mathiaz: hrm
[00:14] <jetole> for what it's worth, kvm sucks
[00:15] <jetole> so does ubuntu (yes my favorite dist) when it comes to VM
[00:15] <kirkland> mathiaz: hmm, looks like an ordering issue
[00:15] <kirkland> mathiaz: the module was removed
[00:16] <kirkland> mathiaz: then kvm was restarted
[00:17] <kirkland> mathiaz: then the module build takes place
[00:17] <mathiaz> kirkland: right - shouldn't kvm depend on kvm-source?
[00:18] <kirkland> mathiaz: yes, i think so.
[00:19] <kirkland> mathiaz: i'll send another set of builds to the ppa
[00:21] <mathiaz> kirkland: you may wanna test it locally first to make sure it does the right thing in the right order
[00:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: i will before uploading
[00:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: but i can't do it tonight
[00:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: It should work - since kvm-source says it enhances kvm
[00:22] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's my anniversary and i'm supposed to be outta here already :-)
[00:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: no worries - it's not urgent
[00:23] <LiraNuna> what is dac_override?
[00:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: tested locally, looks good
[00:39] <kirkland> mathiaz: i'll push an upload shortly
[01:16] <yann2_> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:16] <yann2_> I've been getting this for a while
[01:16] <yann2_> on a LTS server
[01:16] <yann2_> no way to past around it, it's pretty annoying
[01:17] <yann2_> does anyone know what the problem is?
[01:30] <MrPockets> sup guys
[01:37] <MrPockets> reinstalling GRUB on the FIRST partition of the First SCSI drive, would be (hd0,0) ?
[03:00] <lninjox> cant get a ssh session with server on fresh install?
[03:00] <lninjox> correct password but wont authenticate
[03:00] <lninjox> anyone have an suggestions would be apprecitative
[03:02] <lninjox> :)
[03:24] <twb> *appreciated
[03:25] <twb> ubuntu-server does not install the openssh-server package by default.  You can pick it from the tasksel list during the install, or install it later using aptitude or apt-get.
[04:24] <bc> lninjox: *may* be an IP issue? does your IP resolve?
[04:25] <bc> lninjox: also use ssh -v and see if it elaborates
[04:29] <lninjox> thanks
[04:29] <lninjox> issue resolved had to install open-ssh thanks alot for the help
[04:31] <bc> lninjox: I didn't consider that because you sounded as if it was prompting you for a password :D
[05:09] <jetole> does anyone know of a way to keep an inventory of what updates are pending on what computers? Especially something that displays a changelog
[05:13] <bc> jetole: for the changelog part, install apt-listchanges. it'll display the changes and allow you to decline to update or proceed before you install an update.
[05:18] <twb> That's only when you're actually performing the interactive upgrade, though.
[05:19] <twb> What I typically set up is cron-apt or unattended-upgrades, to email me each day if there are outstanding upgrades.  That doesn't include their changelogs, however.
[05:19] <twb> cron-apt may be obsoleted by recent apt versions, since /etc/cron.daily/apt exists but is not active by default, see also apt.conf.
[05:28] <twb> Why is Ubuntu setting APT::Install-Recommends-Sections by default?
[05:28] <twb> It's not documented in apt.conf
[05:30] <ScottK> twb: Because given the definition of recommends it makes sense (Debian does this now too).
[05:30] <twb> Where is the meaning of that variable documented?
[05:31] <twb> Incidentally, I can't see it set in apt.conf.d on a Sid system...
[05:31] <ScottK> The meaning of Recommends, which is what that causes to be installed is in debian-policy
[05:31] <twb> I know the meaning of Recommends, but not Install-Recommends-Sections
[05:31] <ScottK> Ah.
[05:31] <ScottK> Sorry.  Misunderstood the question.
[05:32] <twb> I mean, I can make an educated *guess* as to what it means...
[05:36] <twb> If I'm adding entries in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d, is there a particular number that I should use?  (e.g. 20 or 50 would seem a good default choice)
[05:47] <jetole> bc and twb. Sounds good. Was hoping for something more like an inventory style app (and please no one say landscape) that could help me tie it into puppet policy changes etc but I guess just wishful thinking
[05:48] <twb> jetole: man, if you can work out how to get a web front-end for puppet, I will buy you a beer
[05:49] <twb> Currently my boss forces me to do unpleasant things with webmin and Xorg (namely: install them) because puppet has no wanky front-end that we can hand to customers
[05:58] <bc> jetole: apticron looks like it emails changes -> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/automatic-updates.html
[05:59] <bc> jetole: looks like it also uses apt-listchanges
[06:00] <twb> bc: hmm, never heard of apticron before; it is in main (unlike cron-apt)?
[06:01] <bc> twb: yes, I just apt-got it
[06:01] <TimReichhart> Hi Guys I am currently having problems wiith smarty and everytime I go to this page I get Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required '/Smarty.class.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear:./libs:')
[06:01] <bc> twb: sorry, it's in universe/admin
[06:03] <twb> Bummer.
[06:04] <bc> twb: why are you limiting to main?
[06:04] <twb> I want to minimize packages that are NOT from main.
[06:18] <albertico> hi... I know that this is not the place for this question, but...
[06:18] <albertico> what is the difference between installing the Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) image vs the standard iso plus the netbook remix package?
[06:23] <twb> albertico: in general, the install media only differ in what packages come on the CD, and what packages are installed by default
[06:24] <twb> e.g. you can turn xubuntu into kubuntu by purging xubuntu-desktop and installing kubuntu-desktop, more or less.
[06:26] <albertico> twb, so nothing special besides standard packages?
[06:27] <twb> I can't speak of the netbook images specifically, but in GENERAL, that is correct.
[06:46] <jetole> twb: a beer? buy me a keg and I might work on it.
[06:46] <twb> I probably don't have that much money
[06:46] <jetole> heh
[06:46] <jetole> join the club
[06:48] <jetole> stupid economy
[06:57] <Alex_21> Hi, all,
[06:57] <Alex_21> I can't figure out why php5 is not working on my server. It downloads the files rather than run them
[06:57] <Alex_21> Do you have any ideas why this may be?
[06:57] <Alex_21> Please
[07:01] <twb> I won't help with PHP, sorry.
[07:02] <Alex_21> Why not?
[07:02] <Alex_21> I am just trying to deploy Mediawiki
[07:08] <twb> Because PHP is a blight on the land.
[07:10] <Alex_21> I require it
[07:10] <Alex_21> I can't do anything about it. It is what my organization uses
[07:11] <twb> Alex_21: but I can make it more costly to use by refusing to help.
[07:11] <twb> It's like Ghandi's civil disobedience
[07:12] <simplexio> Alex_21: apache configs arent right
[07:12] <Alex_21> How do I fix them?
[07:12] <simplexio> Alex_21: assuming that php5 works, execpt .php files are handled like txt files
[07:13] <Alex_21> Ok.
[07:13] <Alex_21> The guide I used told me to add Code: "AddType application/x-httpd-php .html" to my /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:14] <simplexio> who knows, maybe you need just reload apache2 or add php5 handler to it
[07:14] <Alex_21> Is there a better way to do this?
[07:15] <Alex_21> I just noticed. Where do I check is libapache2-mod-php5 is installed?
[07:16] <simplexio> apt-get install it again.. ?
[07:17] <Alex_21> I tried that
[07:18] <Alex_21> It isn't in /etc/apache2/mos-enabled/ though
[07:22] <Alex_21> How can I check if it is this?
[07:22] <Alex_21> Please
[07:26] <Alex_21> How od you save and quit in Nano?
[07:26] <Alex_21> Please
[07:31] <Alex_21> Well, that is that figured out. Nano, I mean
[07:32] <Alex_21> Now, how can I check if PHP5 modules for Apache are installed correctly
[07:32] <Alex_21> ?
[07:32] <Alex_21> Please
[07:32] <twb> Nano should have a few lines of help onscreen.
[07:32] <Alex_21> As I said, thanks, but I figured out Nano
[07:32] <twb> OK.
[07:32] <Alex_21> I just need help getting PHP up and running
[07:34] <Alex_21> Can you please help?
[07:34] <Alex_21> I'm really stuck
[07:44] <ajmitch> Alex_21: what have you checked so far?
[07:48]  * shunobies_away is away: Gone away for now
[08:15] <twb> Is it possible to buy a printed copy of the 8.04 admin guide?
[08:15] <twb> Sorry, "server guide".
[08:17] <Ethos> Print it off yourself? :D
[08:18] <twb> Ethos: that's not the same as having a nice binding.
[08:18] <twb> I mean, FSF will sell you printed GNU manuals!
[10:20] <jetole> twb: I assume you were just fscking with Alex_21 and don't have any issues with PHP
[10:24] <twb> jetole: assume whatever you like; I won't touch PHP
[10:34] <mattt> anyone know how to query an SATA disk's firmware?
[10:51] <nixiepixel> matt - try installing and running smartmontools
[10:51] <nixiepixel> mattt even
[10:51] <nixiepixel> mattt - command should be smartctl -a /dev/device
[10:54] <mattt> nixiepixel: seems overkill just to obtain drive info :/
[10:54] <mattt> nixiepixel: i see hdparm seems to work, wish there was something a bit more native tho :/
[10:55] <mattt> nixiepixel: ie. something hidden under /proc :)
[10:59] <nixiepixel> mattt - sorry I can't help further :)
[10:59] <mattt> nixiepixel: not a problem, thanks for your response!
[11:16] <sbeattie> mattt: sdparm or possibly /sys/class/scsi_disk/*/device/model
[11:28] <mattt> sbeattie: boooom!
[11:28] <mattt> sbeattie: /sys/class/scsi_disk/0:0:1:0/device/rev FTW
[11:30] <mattt> sbeattie: tnx :)
[11:31] <sbeattie> sure thing.
[15:23] <MrPockets> NO!
[15:25] <\sh> YES?
[15:50] <bobg> anyone know how to check to see if the dir_index option is enabled on a ext3 fs?
[15:53] <bobg> found it -- dumpe2fs
[15:53] <sommer> bobg: also:  sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sd*
[16:07] <irjudson> Jo
[16:07] <irjudson> er, Hi
[16:08] <irjudson> I'm trying to find the slapd_db_recover program, but It's not installed, so I'm trying to find the correct package to install (I'm on 8.04 LTS)
[16:08] <irjudson> is there some searching magic I'm missing, google isn't coming up with anything helpful
[16:09] <sommer> irjudson: you'll need to install the db4.6-util package
[16:10] <sommer> irjudson: at least that contains the db_recover utility
[16:10] <irjudson> ah
[16:10] <irjudson> that's what I couldn't track down
[16:10] <irjudson> thanks
[16:10] <sommer> np
[16:20]  * shunobies is away: Gone away for now
[16:45] <Skaag> I've installed sun-java6-jdk on ubuntu 9.04 64bit and I can't find the client libjvm.so, only the server jvm... can you guys suggest a solution? :-)
[16:48] <MrPockets> HOOBASHAKA
[17:10] <bobg> thanks sommer
[17:11] <\sh> Skaag: isn't the client libjvm.so inside the jre?
[17:12] <\sh> Skaag: sorry...sun-java6-bin for i386 there are client/ and server/ libjvm.so
[17:12] <\sh> Skaag: so no client/libjvm.so on amd64
[17:15] <Skaag> yah I can see that... too bad :-(
[18:09] <pmatulis> how does one install a network printer on the server?
[18:10] <ivoks> http://localhost:631
[18:10] <ivoks> i guess you have cups installed
[18:11] <ivoks> if it's an ipp printer, cups-client would be enough
[18:14] <pmatulis> ivoks: will check. thanks
[19:27] <jthomas_sb> Where do Tomcat 5.5 webapps go?  'locate webapps' returns both /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/ and   /usr/share/tomcat5.5/webapps
[19:46] <Hecate> jthomas_sb, maybe one of the mathes is a symlink?
[19:46] <Hecate> *matches
[19:47] <jthomas_sb> doesn't seem to be
[19:47] <\sh> ivoks: do i have to fear an upgrade of hardy regarding drbd?
[19:47] <ivoks> upgrade hardy?
[19:47] <ivoks> to what?
[19:48] <\sh> ivoks: sec + sru updates ;)
[19:48] <ivoks> there wasn't drbd update in hardy
[19:48] <\sh> ivoks: but kernel update
[19:48] <ivoks> ah, no
[19:48] <ivoks> it's the same module version
[19:49] <\sh> and I don't want to screw my 6.9TB DRBD msa 60 drbd device ;)
[19:50] <\sh> ivoks: thx :) trusting your drbd experience :)
[19:52] <\sh> 2GBit/s drbd link via HA -> 4Gbit/s links as nfs server reboot
[19:52] <\sh> I#m fcked if this isn't working
[19:54] <ivoks> hehe
[19:54] <\sh> bond0 is coming up
[19:54] <\sh> drdb0 is coming up
[19:54] <\sh> now I'm missing my bond1 which is coming up just now
[19:55] <\sh> that was the passive part..now for the takeover
[19:55] <\sh> takeover succeeded
[19:58] <\sh> the real active node is rebooting now
[20:00] <sommer> do you guys have drbd in production on hardy?
[20:00] <ivoks> i do
[20:00] <\sh> yes
[20:00] <\sh> as said...
[20:00] <sommer> and it works awesome? :-)
[20:01] <sommer> I'm currently working on a project with it, but wasn't sure if I should upgrade to jaunty first
[20:01] <ivoks> it works as advertised :)
[20:01] <sommer> ivoks: sweet!
[20:01] <\sh> 2x hp dl365 with 6 Nics (2 broadcoms int, 4 intel one card ext) attached with 2 HP MSA60 7TB brutto storage
[20:01] <ivoks> huh?
[20:02] <sommer> \sh: nice... I have a lot less than that :)
[20:02] <ivoks> ah.. 2 HP MSA60
[20:02] <ivoks> must be a pain to sync :D
[20:02] <\sh> the 2 broadcoms are the drbd links, as LB bond declared...and the 4 intel nics as LB bonds acting as nfs links to the outside
[20:03] <ivoks> i'm just mirroring disks in two servers :D
[20:03] <\sh> ivoks: using the save method ( C ) this is quite fast over 2Gbit/s
[20:03] <ivoks> with GFS on top of it
[20:03] <ivoks> it is?
[20:03] <ivoks> i was thinking on testing A
[20:03] <\sh> ivoks: GFS i'll get next week with 4 2012i MSAs (via iscsi)+
[20:03] <ivoks> cause it looks like C is slow...
[20:03] <ivoks> but it might be cause of GFS
[20:04] <\sh> ivoks: C is slow, but safe...it acks all syncwrites
[20:04] <ivoks> i know
[20:04] <ivoks> it's written on first when second reports that it has write it all down
[20:04] <sommer> has anyone placed kvm images on a drbd partition?
[20:04] <\sh> takeover to active node succeeded
[20:04] <\sh> ivoks: yepp
[20:05] <\sh> /dev/drbd0            6.9T  278G  6.6T   4% /webzooms
[20:05] <\sh> that's why it's fast ;)
[20:05] <ivoks> 8.3.2rc2 was released couple of hours ago
[20:05] <ivoks> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ha/+archive/drbd
[20:05] <ivoks> ;)
[20:05] <ivoks> i think we had it packaged less than an hour after the official release
[20:05] <\sh> but the fun part about it...we have some Flash Media Servers running which are reading many h.264 FLVs from the nfs storage..and it flys like hell :)
[20:06] <ivoks> that's nice
[20:06] <ivoks> \sh: primary-primary or primary-secondary?
[20:06] <\sh> ivoks: p-s
[20:07] <ivoks> i have p-p
[20:07] <\sh> ivoks: using HA to switch between p and s
[20:07] <ivoks> you do know that ha is dead? :)
[20:07] <\sh> p-p I'll try next week with our iscsi msas and gfs and some mysql servers ;)
[20:07] <kinja-sheep> What's the best way to find out if your (external) hard drive is dying?  I know servers deals with lot of hardwares. :3
[20:07] <\sh> ivoks: ha2 is alive?
[20:07] <ivoks> nope
[20:08] <ivoks> let me introduce you to pacemaker; http://clusterlabs.org
[20:08] <\sh> ivoks: aye...something new to take care of...
[20:09] <\sh> but seeing the graph..cib and crmd and stonithd looks really like some work of HA
[20:09] <ivoks> only lrmd
[20:09] <ivoks> openais will replace ccm and heartbeat
[20:10] <ivoks> and that ccm and heartbeat are from ha3
[20:10] <ivoks> which isn't the same thing as ha2
[20:10] <ivoks> ha3 isn't cluster manager anymore
[20:10] <\sh> ivoks: do you have a timeframe when HA[1,2] will go away from U?
[20:10] <ivoks> it's just messaging layer
[20:10] <ivoks> it will probably be in archive untill debian drops it
[20:11] <ivoks> for karmic, pacemaker-openais should be supported cluster stack
[20:11] <\sh> ivoks: so I have time to deal with the insights of the NWO :)
[20:11] <ivoks> yep, but you'll figure it out very quickly
[20:13] <\sh> ivoks: the problem is not my person...the problem is to "tell teamlead/manager that it's better to change"...and teamleads/managers don't have clue sometimes ;)
[20:13] <ivoks> ha isn't being developed any more
[20:13] <ivoks> lead developer has left the building
[20:14] <ivoks> and it's being smashed into pieces and imported into pacemaker
[20:14] <ivoks> you are on your own if continue with ha
[20:14] <ivoks> good enough? :)
[20:14] <\sh> "opensource is not important for us, actually the only important thing is that our infrastructure software doesn't cost any money..."
[20:14] <\sh> that was a quote of my manager
[20:15] <\sh> and that's why my team is using more and more of the opensource stuff....to kill him
[20:15] <ivoks> :)
[20:17] <ivoks> i just love denyhosts
[20:18] <\sh> ok...I'm done for tonight...drinking a beer with my colleague and then going home to kid and wife :)
[20:18] <\sh> guys...have a nice one :) cu tomorrow
[20:19] <\sh> ivoks: thanks again for your really hard work on this drbd stuff :) it's appreciated :)
[20:19] <ivoks> hehe
[20:19] <ivoks> sure
[20:19] <\sh> TODO: ivoks -> free beer next time somehow @uds
[20:19] <\sh> so..gone
[20:20] <ivoks> :)
[20:20] <ivoks> take care
[20:42] <ewook> phew. I feel stupid. how do I load a firmware module?
[20:52] <bc> \sh: your manager sounds brilliant (ugh) :)
[20:54] <\sh> bc: for sure...
[20:55]  * \sh is back at his desk...because of unforseen events *gnarf*
[20:55] <ajmitch> \sh: things broke?
[20:56] <\sh> no...other 3rd level support call
[20:56]  * ajmitch hasn't yet started work for the day
[20:57] <ajmitch> but at least it's friday :)
[20:57] <\sh> ajmitch: hehe...my ex didn't write me an email...so it's just early at your NZ place ;)
[20:57]  * bc is confused by the rotation of the Earth
[20:57] <ajmitch> almost 8AM
[20:57] <\sh> ajmitch: EARLY !
[20:58] <ajmitch> I know, I shouldn't be on IRC yet
[20:59] <ajmitch> I had to check on this php5 merge & see if it compiled properly after I left it last night
[20:59] <\sh> bc: the good thing is, that we have internet...and the world never sleeps...and knowing that ajmitch is somewhere in NZ makes me feel better :)
[20:59] <\sh> -EPHP5MERGE :)
[20:59] <ajmitch> \sh: why, did you want to do it instead? :)
[21:00] <\sh> ajmitch: I just started to code some php crap...and I have to admit...I'm a snake lover ;) but andi gutmans is a nice guy :)
[21:00] <ajmitch> yes, I certainly prefer python, but well we use php at work
[21:00] <\sh> ajmitch: no no please no...I have to fix firefox still to allow file uploads via html form over 2GB ;)
[21:01] <\sh> because our php app can handle it via python ... bah...that really sounds weired
[21:01] <\sh> ajmitch: if you are using zend-framework package from ubuntu...I'm happy :)
[21:01] <ajmitch> I'm not
[21:02] <ajmitch> we have our own set of nasties
[21:03] <\sh> ajmitch: let me package it ;)
[21:04] <ajmitch> you're brave
[21:04] <\sh> ajmitch: bah...I have dojo still laying around...and that's more then brave to package it ;)
[21:05] <\sh> that reminds me..I have to push zf packages to mentors.debian.net...they are kean to have it included
[21:05] <ajmitch> ok
[21:05] <ajmitch> I won't promise to review it & sponsor it :)
[21:06] <\sh> ajmitch: we are motus...we don't need review ;) just upload and get the blame via LP ;)
[21:06] <ajmitch> bah, broken dependencies for openldap in karmic, libsasl mustn't be right
[21:07] <\sh> ajmitch: did you ever managed to get OTP via LDAP and SASL?
[21:07] <ajmitch> nope
[21:07] <\sh> ok..done here...
[21:08] <ivoks_> pacemaker has a nice feature
[21:09] <ivoks_> if misconfigured, it can kill your wifi and leave only ethernet working
[21:10] <\sh> gone now... really
[21:10] <ajmitch> bye :)
[21:16] <bc_> brilliant. VirtualBox spontaneously rebooted my machine. -_-
[21:16] <bc_> (the host os, ubuntu)
[21:20] <Killmanhack> www.Killman.tk
[21:25] <jthomas_sb> Ubuntu 9.04, Sun Java 5 and Sun Java 6, Tomcat 5.5.26-5ubuntu1.  I have installed BIRT 2.5.0 and followed these instructions http://www.eclipse.org/birt/phoenix/deploy/viewerSetup.php but when I connect to my  http://localhost:8180/manager/html it says that BIRT cannot start.  Suggestions?
[23:32] <orudie> good bye Michael Jackson :(
[23:46] <a1fa> ubuntu 9.04 + Dell 2650 = failz