[00:00] I'm actually looking hard at this. And it must be there, because it's definately a security concern. [00:02] egads, maybe not: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-March/000556.html [00:07] ok, tried another thread first, as that didnt require me to install uswsusp, but didn't work. i'm trying uswsusp now [00:08] any way that I could set my working session into a vnc session ? I mean, once I login. I want someone else to be able to vnc to me and see what I'm doing on my computer... [00:09] for me suspend or hibernate doesn't work at all. Something to do with me mobo/bios [00:10] just haven't gotten around to fixing it. [00:10] and they call it sleep now hagg. You may have to install the gnome-power-manager [00:12] nothing in gnome-power-manager.. ferget it. [00:17] BBishop: x11vnc should allow something like that [00:17] ron_o: the first link you gave me works, installing uswsusp and adding the two files to /etc/pm/sleep.d/ and config.d/ [00:17] zoredache, yeah, but I don't see any "setup" [00:18] BBishop: i have done that with the gnome-vnc-tool, the server-executable was somewhere under /usr/lib/ i think. sorry, but i forgot the name [00:18] hagg, thanks.. I'll keep that in my (many notes). :) [00:19] BBishop: check the man page... I would do something like this - x11vnc -nopw -display :0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -loop [00:19] i think it was called vino [00:19] that is I start a terminal and run that command [00:20] * BBishop reads [00:21] !x11vnc [00:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about x11vnc [00:21] hrmph... [00:22] vino works for me. "vino-preferences" to configure it. "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to run the server from command line [00:25] hm. in future i'll prefer x11vnc ;) [00:32] Hi I need help on keyboard mapping\ [00:32] can anyone help me here [00:33] I am trying to make AltGr key working for german layout [00:33] any idea how to disable the "New Mobile Broadband Connection" configuration wizard after every login/wakeup? the only way i see now is to configure a provider i dont have, which doesn't seem correct to me. [00:35] what does not work with altgr ? [00:35] <>| key [00:36] so with altgr |key should show [00:37] I don't see | character at all [00:38] i can see them [00:38] how [00:39] when i can see your |s (vertical lines), it might be a display problem? do you see my "|" ? [00:40] yes. [00:40] I am typing this in US keyboard [00:40] not in german [00:40] whn I change to german then it doesn't work [00:41] ah, now i get. you dont see the | on the *keyboard*? [00:42] I have it on keyboard [00:42] I can't see on display with german keyboard [01:11] im installing xubuntu, when i get to the point of partitioning the hard disk it gets stuck, any idea? [01:11] ive got an aged laptop so im using the alternate cd [01:12] oh now it went good... weird [01:20] hey guys, i had sound working in my last install, but i had to reinstall due to a couple really bad decisions on my part and I cannot remember how i got my sound working last time. double checked levels and mute in mixer and alsamixer. lspci is 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) everything seems to be setup right but no sound will play. [01:27] could it be a question of drivers? [01:30] i dont think so [01:30] i dont remember installing a driver last time [01:34] if i remember right, it wasnt hard to fix but i cant remember what i did [01:49] anyone know how i can get the wireless working on my eepc 1000 [01:52] should work automaticly right? [01:53] aacosta, didn't you get the kernel installed from the array.org repository? [01:54] eah [01:54] i believe so [01:55] i can try again [01:55] then rebooting should get your wlan working immediately. [01:56] it didnt work [01:56] how can i check if i got the kernel correctly [01:57] what does 'uname -a' on terminal say? [01:59] linux eeepc 2.628-12-netbook eeeepc [01:59] i guess its on there right [01:59] yes. looks right. [01:59] maybe something wrong with my router [01:59] i suppose you have the nm-applet running - does it say disconnected? [02:00] whre? [02:00] i think it's next to the clock. [02:01] grr @ ping timeout [02:02] yeah wireles is disconected [02:02] can you see any networks? [02:03] yea [02:03] what happens if you try to connect? [02:03] doesnt go thu [02:03] thru [02:03] ok, it sounds like the hw is working though [02:03] so i suppose it's just looking at your router now. [02:04] dam [02:04] this imac that i have conects to it [02:04] and so does my wii [02:04] im using wep [02:04] i know its flawed [02:04] well afaik that shouldn't be a problem. [02:05] how should set up my router so my eee conects to it [02:05] check the wlan connection settings [02:06] on the eeepc? [02:06] yes. [02:06] or router [02:06] the eeepc [02:06] does any one have any ideas to fix my sound problem, posted above? [02:06] if it was easy: aumix? :] [02:06] how do i get to wlan connection settins [02:06] aacosta, right click the icon -> edit connections [02:07] ok yeah im there [02:07] i thought maybe somewehere else [02:07] check that the settings match with your routers [02:09] under security should i choose wep 40/128 bit key or 128 passphrase [02:09] i know i should choose neither cause wep is flawes [02:09] should i just change my router to wpa [02:09] right now it is wep [02:09] i'm not sure which one it is, but you can try both. [02:10] aumix doesnt seem to affect it, neither does alsamixer [02:10] and under authentification type? [02:10] open system or shared key [02:10] my router is under automatic [02:10] shared key [02:10] ok [02:11] wow [02:11] thanks [02:11] that was it [02:11] np. [02:11] i just had to change it to shared key [02:12] haha [02:12] wow [02:12] my router was set to auto [02:12] yes, open system would be 'no password' [02:12] cool [02:12] damn [02:12] hi all [02:12] so i should really switch to wpa thoguht right [02:12] the reason i ahd it that way was for the wii [02:13] aacosta, yes. wpa2 would be optimal. [02:13] alright hopefully i can get all the computers on my network to conect to it [02:13] should be no problem. :) [02:13] the only thing im worried about is the wii [02:14] you can always revert if there is huge problems [02:14] true [02:14] have any clue how to get the function keys to work [02:14] !hi | Raggs [02:14] Raggs: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [02:14] ty knome [02:14] for the eeepc [02:15] aacosta, they should work with the array.org kernel. don't they? [02:15] aacosta, i can only tell you one thing on the wifi subject, my wii worked well with wpa [02:17] did you have to update first? [02:17] or right away [02:17] nope they dont i though so too [02:18] like the sound doesnt work [02:18] MTec007, can you remember *anything* from the last time? [02:18] (regarding the audio set up) [02:18] brignt ness wors [02:18] knome, no, i cant thats my problem [02:18] aacosta, you need to set shortcut keys for the audio buttons [02:19] how do i do that [02:19] aacosta, applications -> settings -> keyboard -> tab application shortcuts [02:20] aacosta, i didnt have to update the wii, i bought mine new and it worked out of the box on my wpa wifi. after that it updated several times over a few months while i had it [02:20] swee [02:20] t [02:20] do you use homebrew channel [02:20] i dont have my wii any more, had to sell it for money [02:20] aacosta, then add -> shortcut command 'aumix-v-10' for volume down, 'aumix-v0+10' for volume up and 'aumix -v0' for mute [02:20] but i never used bhc [02:20] hbc* [02:21] sweet [02:21] aacosta, after issuing the command you get to select the key to use for that action - then, press the relevant key [02:21] knome, i know i used alsa last time [02:21] aacosta, 'aumix -v...' with a space between x and - of course. [02:22] MTec007, do you have to use pulseaudio? [02:22] i dont think i do [02:22] then uninstall it and your sound should work. this isn't the officially preferred method, but most of the time it works like a charm. [02:22] 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) [02:23] ok [02:24] is anything graphical supposed to come out when i use volume up or down [02:24] aacosta, i think my eeepc does that, but at least the volume buttons should *function* now... [02:25] the volume icon near the clock has a "progress" type indicator [02:25] MTec007, the eeepc-kernel has some notifications for brightness changes. those notifications usually appear with the volume control also. :) [02:26] oh well i have the brightness on my dell but not for soud [02:26] sound [02:26] ope [02:26] nope [02:26] the keys still didnt work [02:27] im pretty sure i did it right too [02:28] did you enter the commands without the 's? [02:28] what s? [02:28] the ' characters [02:29] oh yeah without [02:29] ok... [02:29] what does the "Shortcut" column say about the items? [02:29] xf86audiolowervolume [02:29] audio mute audio raise [02:30] that's the *shortcut* column? or the command column? [02:30] i can't remember what my eeepc says. [02:31] shortcut [02:31] okay... let me get my eeepc. [02:31] haha dang thats awesome dude [02:31] thanks [02:33] knome, removing pulseaudio didnt work [02:33] unless i need to reboot first [02:34] aacosta, haven't set them - they just work and i have the notifications [02:34] (i'm on intrepid, though, and the system is a bit different from jaunty) [02:34] MTec007, i'm not sure. [02:35] MTec007, have you selected the correct audio output from your audio apps? [02:36] aacosta, what happens if you type 'aumix -v-10' in terminal? [02:38] well i dont have any system sounds ( i enabled input sounds etc like when a message box pops up) and no flash sound [02:39] hmm.. [02:39] sorry, atm i'm clueless. [02:39] lol its ok, i appreciate that you attempted to help [02:41] let me check [02:47] othing happens [02:48] when i type it into terminal [02:48] okay - does the sound volume go down? [02:48] (you can repeat a few times) [02:49] knome, my /etc/group has this line: audio:x:29:pulse [02:49] hmm [02:52] brb [02:55] dont thnk so [02:55] i dont htink so [02:55] brb [02:57] need to go. it's already 5am. good night :) -> [02:57] aacosta, hope you will get it solved. good luck! [02:59] man, this really isnt cool. i need sound [03:29] Hey! [04:25] I was wondering if someone could basically tell me what KDE and Gnome services are? [04:26] I know what Gnome and KDE are, just lack the understanding of what services means in XFCE [04:30] I am curious of the real speed advantages of xubuntu over kubuntu or ubuntu [04:31] i'm interested of putting some ubuntu based OS on a computer with 900mhz of ram [04:31] wait... [04:31] a 900mhz processor and 368mb of ram [05:11] hey guys, i have a new laptop with vista home basic on it. i'm running the live ubuntu disk, and havent agreed to the microsoft eula. if i install ubuntu as a dual os, will it work properly? i've heard there are some probs with dual boot systems? [05:12] also, has anybody ever heard of Endura Video Player? I can't find anything relevent about it in searches. [05:15] ubuntu first question: there are potential issues but it is definitely possible to do [05:15] go to #ubuntu [05:15] second question no i haven't [05:18] he left already [05:18] Is there something I have to do in XFCE to mount window partitions? [05:19] dang [05:19] i'm incompetent >.> [05:46] hello! [05:46] I am wondering if this is the place to ask for help on Xubuntu [05:46] is anyone here? [05:46] no [05:47] this is the help channel [05:47] whats your problem? [05:47] haha, thanks... ok, I'm having Flash player troubles in 64-bit Firefox [05:48] I'm not sure how I got it working, but I am currently using an old version of Flash player that only works some times... and very poorly [05:48] if it won't work from the deb, just get it from adobe and install manually [05:48] why are you using the old one? [05:49] I tried adding the latest x64 Flash player flashplayerplugin.so from Adobe, and it doesn't work at all (Flash doesn't even show up) [05:49] are you using the comand line installer? [05:49] sorry, it's called libflashplayer.so not flashplayerplugin.so [05:49] or are you just coping and pasting? [05:50] I am not using any installer, because I couldn't find an x64 installer [05:50] copying and pasting [05:50] so I'm currently forced to used Flash player 9.0r1.59 whereas the latest is 10.0r22 [05:51] I believe you can use the 32bit [05:51] the installer fails [05:51] the 32-bit installer doesn't work [05:51] the deb? [05:52] oh, yes? [05:52] I think so [05:53] I mean dl the deb from the site and install that [05:53] ok, lemme try... 64-bit or 32-bit? [05:53] get the 32bit deb [05:54] ok, that's what I had been getting... [05:54] I'll tell you what it says... hold on [05:56] under status, it says in red, "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'" [05:56] ah [05:56] and "Install Package" is greyed out [05:57] any ideas? [05:57] nope [06:29] i was wondering if anyone had a reccommend on wether vmware or virtualbox is better? [06:33] qemu [06:37] thats better than the rest? [06:38] for all around purposes, some gaming in windows? and i think ill have to install mandriva or redhat or whatever it is. [06:38] i have a linux class coming up and they use a rpm distro [06:51] Is anyone alive currently? [06:57] nope [06:57] completely dead atm [06:57] I see. [06:58] ill be alive in a bit tho [06:58] That's too bad. [06:58] ys that [06:58] Well let me know when you rejoin the living if you don't mind. [06:58] It's too bad for me, lol. [06:58] np [06:58] gonna have a smoke and ill brb [06:58] Alright, thank you. [06:58] if u have a question i reccommend u just ask and someone should help u shortly [06:59] not sure if i can help u at all [06:59] Is there a reason why the desktop switcher will only allow me to have 2 desktops? [06:59] but ill try my best [07:00] Upper Right by Applications, and Places there's a Shortcut/Launcher for FireFox and Help. I want to know how to put a Terminal and Thunderbird Launcher up there too. [07:02] Right click>Add item>Launcher? [07:03] It adds it to top left. [07:03] Lol, I'm a bit anal. [07:03] I'd like to have them all together. [07:03] Then rightclick>move? [07:03] Thank you! [07:03] Welcome. [07:03] I'm new to linux altogether, so everything I do makes me feel stupid. [07:04] Don't feel that way. Everybody was new once. [07:04] :) [07:05] Hm, what would you say is the most useful language to program on Linux? [07:05] Ruby or Python maybe. [07:06] I glanced over Python and it seemed pretty straightforward. So I guess I'll give that the old college try. [07:06] Any other advice? [07:06] Oh, and if you've got the patience, I have another question. [07:06] Go ahead [07:06] I'll answer if i can. [07:07] Alright, this one's a doozy. [07:07] I have a laptop, and the hard drive is failing. [07:07] Okay. [07:07] Windows honestly seemed to agitate that. It would literally be unable to boot after a couple reboots. [07:07] So I installed DSL on the harddrive, it was instantly familiar enough for an easy transition. [07:08] DSL is good. [07:08] Didn't fail on boot. So I looked at other Linux distros that would be good for a 4-5 year old laptop. [07:08] DL/Burn/Install Xubuntu. [07:09] Works like a dream. Unfortunately after 4 reboots, it's unable to boot. [07:09] yea i hear that xubuntu is light on resources [07:09] It is very much so [07:09] So I decided, hey, how about I get it the way I like it... [07:09] Sounds like you could have something damaged in your mbr. [07:09] Set up partitions on a portable hard drive. [07:09] Yes, that's correct. [07:10] The boot record is...damaged and irrepairable. [07:10] Have you tried repairing the MBR with a partition tool? [07:10] Yes, but the hardware is just dying. [07:10] Tried every tool at my disposal. [07:10] Okay you could always install the bootloader to the partition linux is in. [07:11] As opposed to MBR. How you would access it I do not know. [07:11] I've decided to just get another Harddrive. [07:11] Unfortunately, I'm deployed currently, so I cannot until I get back stateside. [07:11] I would presume the multi-boot in the computer would see it, but i have never tried it. [07:12] So my question is, what is the most painfree way to copy the install that I have on my hard drive, onto a partition on my portable hard drive? [07:12] I can boot from the Port, so it's preferable to use it in the meantime, as it's reliable. [07:13] You could back it up or you could save your home folder for reinstall. All the settings are in /Home/user (your name) [07:13] Programs, everything? [07:14] Programs no. Program settings yes. [07:14] Hm. [07:14] That is the best I can tell you for that one. [07:15] The only other alternative..... [07:15] Is to build a live cd from the installation on the hard disk and then reinstall it from there. [07:16] If you build the live cd it will be an exact copy of the source I believe. [07:16] Hm. [07:17] I'll be right back. [07:17] Okay. [07:18] marcus, does that mean it will have all the packs that u installed already and wond have to dl them again? [07:19] RIcochet: In theory yes. [07:19] When you install the live cd it will make a copy of the live cd on a hard disk. [07:21] well damn [07:21] so that means no need for reconstructor [07:21] Live cd making is an interesting idea. I have only seen it applied in PCLOS. [07:23] Like I said, in theory is should save all the packages and everything that are installed. [07:29] i saw a howto in ubuntu forums i think not long ago [07:30] didnt read much on it tho [07:30] It would be very interesting to at least try wouldn't it? [07:30] was more interested in reconstructor, but that doesnt seem to have the module i want and what it does have is outdated [07:31] Maybe i will try it at some point. [07:31] i know i will [07:32] prolly very soon [07:32] I would be interested in hearing the results. [07:36] i will let u know if i do it [07:37] Thank you. [07:41] u know theres also a pack called aptonCD [07:41] u might wanna look into that [07:50] I will thanks. [08:09] hi guys, i installed xubuntu alternate cd on my old 486 laptop and all it seemed to work till the end of the installation, it reboot and GRUB does not load, it freezes to "GRUB loading, please wait..." can someone help me? considering im quite of a newbie with xubuntu. thanks [08:35] c'mon guys can someone help me with my grub not working? [08:36] sry i have no experience w/ alt install cd [08:37] dont u just know how to substitute grub with lilo? [08:45] no i dont [08:45] but i think theres a howto in the ubuntu forums [08:45] try google [09:21] After downloading a package in Synaptic, it goes to where it installs/configures. [09:37] how do I login as another user (get a second X) under Xubuntu? [10:00] Laibsch, if you run sudo gdm there should be (after a couple of seconds of your screen flickering) a dialog (on ctrl+alt+f1) that asks if you want to start a new X server because server 0 is already in use, this will start a new X session (you can switch between them with ctrl+alt+F7 and ctrl+alt+F8) [10:01] thanks [10:02] I ran "gdmflexiserver" now which is what I think does the switching in Gnome, too [10:02] It would be nice if Xubuntu had a menu entry for this [10:03] I see that Ubuntu will switch from pidgin (which I currently use) to empathy for the main chat client [10:03] Is there any recommended chat client for XFCE? [10:04] you can use any gtk chat client, i use xchat for irc and gajim for jabber myself [10:04] (you could use kde chat clients too btw, its just not recommended if you dont use any other kde apps) [10:05] I know I can pretty much use any program in XFCE whether they were originally created for Gnome, KDE or whatnot [10:05] But of course running KDE and GNOME apps has a price in terms of ressource usage [10:06] I was wondering if there was a "preferred" or "official" xfce multi-protocol chat client [10:45] is there any particular problem installing konkeror on ubuntu system, as it seems to be loading a lot of *k* (kubuntu?) packages? [10:47] or by the same token, loading programs that depend on xfce on ubuntu? [10:47] mikubuntu: no, there usually are no problems [10:48] you will use more disk space for installation and more RAM when those libs are actually pulled in [10:49] k, just wondered. i have a fairly lot of space 160gb, and i don't save a bunch of stuff on my machine like pix or video or music. just programs. [10:49] *applications* [10:50] Laibsch: so it will only draw that extra ram if i launch those apps, yes? [10:50] yes [10:50] kool [11:40] anyone [11:41] !anybody [11:41] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [11:42] got stuck on 99% installing [11:59] anyone know of a krunner substitute for xfce? [12:34] XFCE has problems with my dual-monitor setup. gnome-display-properties even if called inside an XFCE session detects my two monitors just fine. The XFCE Display applet only shows me one (the internal laptop display). [12:35] Any ideas what I should do? I'm still new to XFCE, but I need my second monitor ;-) [15:05] can i tell xfwm's smart window placement system where i do not want windows to open? === Nathan is now known as Guest69208 === Nathan is now known as Guest96513 [16:08] Anyone know if one is possible to FXP with filezilla? [17:02] hey guys.. what exactly is the best way of getting a samba client to work in xubuntu? [17:15] i'm using gigolo, which works great, except it uses nautilus to browse, b/c thunar doesn't show the shares. [17:15] i believe i can setup fuse and thunar will show the shares, but i haven't had time to try it out [17:19] !samba | muse [17:19] muse: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [17:20] oh.. thanks [17:21] ya I have tried setting up fuse and it works but for some reason not on all the network shares? [17:44] To get my dual-monitor setup to work, I have to run a sequence of xrandr commands every time I log on. Is there any way to automate this? Some shell script that would run when I start up in a context where xrandr will actually work? [17:51] Simetrical: hey dude.. why don't you just slap up a script, make it executable and add it to your startup applications? [17:52] muse, hmm. Interesting. So just add it to the "Session" menu or whatever? [17:52]