[00:00] <ron_o> I'm actually looking hard at this. And it must be there, because it's definately a security concern.
[00:02] <ron_o> egads, maybe not: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-March/000556.html
[00:07] <hagg> ok, tried another thread first, as that didnt require me to install uswsusp, but didn't work. i'm trying uswsusp now
[00:08] <BBishop> any way that I could set my working session into a vnc session ? I mean, once I login. I want someone else to be able to vnc to me and see what I'm doing on my computer...
[00:09] <ron_o> for me suspend or hibernate doesn't work at all. Something to do with me mobo/bios
[00:10] <ron_o> just haven't gotten around to fixing it.
[00:10] <ron_o> and they call it sleep now hagg. You may have to install the gnome-power-manager
[00:12] <ron_o> nothing in gnome-power-manager.. ferget it.
[00:17] <zoredache> BBishop: x11vnc should allow something like that
[00:17] <hagg> ron_o: the first link you gave me works, installing uswsusp and adding the two files to /etc/pm/sleep.d/ and config.d/
[00:17] <BBishop> zoredache, yeah, but I don't see any "setup"
[00:18] <hagg> BBishop: i have done that with the gnome-vnc-tool, the server-executable was somewhere under /usr/lib/ i think. sorry, but i forgot the name
[00:18] <ron_o> hagg, thanks.. I'll keep that in my (many notes). :)
[00:19] <zoredache> BBishop: check the man page... I would do something like this - x11vnc -nopw -display :0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -loop
[00:19] <hagg> i think it was called vino
[00:19] <zoredache> that is I start a terminal and run that command
[00:20]  * BBishop reads
[00:21] <zoredache> !x11vnc
[00:21] <zoredache> hrmph...
[00:22] <hagg> vino works for me. "vino-preferences" to configure it. "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server" to run the server from command line
[00:25] <hagg> hm. in future i'll prefer x11vnc ;)
[00:32] <khems> Hi I need help on keyboard mapping\
[00:32] <khems> can anyone help me here
[00:33] <khems>  I am trying to make AltGr key working for german layout
[00:33] <hagg> any idea how to disable the "New Mobile Broadband Connection" configuration wizard after every login/wakeup? the only way i see now is to configure a provider i dont have, which doesn't seem correct to me.
[00:35] <hagg> what does not work with altgr ?
| key
[00:36] <khems> so with altgr |key should show
[00:37] <khems> I don't see | character at all
[00:38] <hagg> i can see them
[00:38] <khems> how
[00:39] <hagg> when i can see your |s (vertical lines), it might be a display problem?   do you see my "|" ?
[00:40] <knome> yes.
[00:40] <khems> I am typing this in US keyboard
[00:40] <khems> not in german
[00:40] <khems> whn I change to german then it doesn't work
[00:41] <hagg> ah, now i get. you dont see the | on the *keyboard*?
[00:42] <khems> I have it on keyboard
[00:42] <khems> I can't see on display with german keyboard
[01:11] <zer0o> im installing xubuntu, when i get to the point of partitioning the hard disk it gets stuck, any idea?
[01:11] <zer0o> ive got an aged laptop so im using the alternate cd
[01:12] <zer0o> oh now it went good... weird
[01:20] <MTec007> hey guys, i had sound working in my last install, but i had to reinstall due to a couple really bad decisions on my part and I cannot remember how i got my sound working last time. double checked levels and mute in mixer and alsamixer.  lspci is 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)     everything seems to be setup right but no sound will play.
[01:27] <zer0o> could it be a question of drivers?
[01:30] <MTec007> i dont think so
[01:30] <MTec007> i dont remember installing a driver last time
[01:34] <MTec007> if i remember right, it wasnt hard to fix  but i cant remember what i did
[01:49] <aacosta> anyone know how i can get the wireless working on my eepc 1000
[01:52] <aacosta> should work automaticly right?
[01:53] <knome> aacosta, didn't you get the kernel installed from the array.org repository?
[01:54] <aacosta> eah
[01:54] <aacosta> i believe so
[01:55] <aacosta> i can try again
[01:55] <knome> then rebooting should get your wlan working immediately.
[01:56] <aacosta> it didnt work
[01:56] <aacosta> how can i check if i got the kernel correctly
[01:57] <knome> what does 'uname -a' on terminal say?
[01:59] <aacosta> linux eeepc 2.628-12-netbook eeeepc
[01:59] <aacosta> i guess its on there right
[01:59] <knome> yes. looks right.
[01:59] <aacosta> maybe something wrong with my router
[01:59] <knome> i suppose you have the nm-applet running - does it say disconnected?
[02:00] <aacosta> whre?
[02:00] <knome> i think it's next to the clock.
[02:01] <MTec007> grr @ ping timeout
[02:02] <aacosta> yeah wireles is disconected
[02:02] <knome> can you see any networks?
[02:03] <aacosta> yea
[02:03] <knome> what happens if you try to connect?
[02:03] <aacosta> doesnt go thu
[02:03] <aacosta> thru
[02:03] <knome> ok, it sounds like the hw is working though
[02:03] <knome> so i suppose it's just looking at your router now.
[02:04] <aacosta> dam
[02:04] <aacosta> this imac that i have conects to it
[02:04] <aacosta> and so does my wii
[02:04] <aacosta> im using wep
[02:04] <aacosta> i know its flawed
[02:04] <knome> well afaik that shouldn't be a problem.
[02:05] <aacosta> how should set up my router so my eee conects to it
[02:05] <knome> check the wlan connection settings
[02:06] <aacosta> on the eeepc?
[02:06] <knome> yes.
[02:06] <aacosta> or router
[02:06] <knome> the eeepc
[02:06] <MTec007> does any one have any ideas to fix my sound problem, posted above?
[02:06] <knome> if it was easy: aumix? :]
[02:06] <aacosta> how do i get to wlan connection settins
[02:06] <knome> aacosta, right click the icon -> edit connections
[02:07] <aacosta> ok yeah im there
[02:07] <aacosta> i thought maybe somewehere else
[02:07] <knome> check that the settings match with your routers
[02:09] <aacosta> under security should i choose wep 40/128 bit key or 128 passphrase
[02:09] <aacosta> i know i should choose neither cause wep is flawes
[02:09] <aacosta> should i just change my router to wpa
[02:09] <aacosta> right now it is wep
[02:09] <knome> i'm not sure which one it is, but you can try both.
[02:10] <MTec007> aumix doesnt seem to affect it, neither does alsamixer
[02:10] <aacosta> and under authentification type?
[02:10] <aacosta> open system or shared key
[02:10] <aacosta> my router is under automatic
[02:10] <knome> shared key
[02:10] <aacosta> ok
[02:11] <aacosta> wow
[02:11] <aacosta> thanks
[02:11] <aacosta> that was it
[02:11] <knome> np.
[02:11] <aacosta> i just had to change it to shared key
[02:12] <aacosta> haha
[02:12] <aacosta> wow
[02:12] <aacosta> my router was set to auto
[02:12] <knome> yes, open system would be 'no password'
[02:12] <aacosta> cool
[02:12] <aacosta> damn
[02:12] <Raggs> hi all
[02:12] <aacosta> so i should really switch to wpa thoguht right
[02:12] <aacosta> the reason i ahd it that way was for the wii
[02:13] <knome> aacosta, yes. wpa2 would be optimal.
[02:13] <aacosta> alright hopefully i can get all the computers on my network to conect to it
[02:13] <knome> should be no problem. :)
[02:13] <aacosta> the only thing im worried about is the wii
[02:14] <knome> you can always revert if there is huge problems
[02:14] <aacosta> true
[02:14] <aacosta> have any clue how to get the function keys to work
[02:14] <knome> !hi | Raggs
[02:14] <Raggs> ty knome
[02:14] <aacosta> for the eeepc
[02:15] <knome> aacosta, they should work with the array.org kernel. don't they?
[02:15] <MTec007> aacosta, i can only tell you one thing on the wifi subject, my wii worked well with wpa
[02:17] <aacosta> did you have to update first?
[02:17] <aacosta> or right away
[02:17] <aacosta> nope they dont i though so too
[02:18] <aacosta> like the sound doesnt work
[02:18] <knome> MTec007, can you remember *anything* from the last time?
[02:18] <knome> (regarding the audio set up)
[02:18] <aacosta> brignt ness wors
[02:18] <MTec007> knome, no, i cant thats my problem
[02:18] <knome> aacosta, you need to set shortcut keys for the audio buttons
[02:19] <aacosta> how do i do that
[02:19] <knome> aacosta, applications -> settings -> keyboard -> tab application shortcuts
[02:20] <MTec007> aacosta, i didnt have to update the wii, i bought mine new and it worked out of the box on my wpa wifi. after that it updated several times over a few months while i had it
[02:20] <aacosta> swee
[02:20] <aacosta> t
[02:20] <aacosta> do you use homebrew channel
[02:20] <MTec007> i dont have my wii any more, had to sell it for money
[02:20] <knome> aacosta, then add -> shortcut command 'aumix-v-10' for volume down, 'aumix-v0+10' for volume up and 'aumix -v0' for mute
[02:20] <MTec007> but i never used bhc
[02:20] <MTec007> hbc*
[02:21] <aacosta> sweet
[02:21] <knome> aacosta, after issuing the command you get to select the key to use for that action - then, press the relevant key
[02:21] <MTec007> knome, i know i used alsa last time
[02:21] <knome> aacosta, 'aumix -v...' with a space between x and - of course.
[02:22] <knome> MTec007, do you have to use pulseaudio?
[02:22] <MTec007> i dont think i do
[02:22] <knome> then uninstall it and your sound should work. this isn't the officially preferred method, but most of the time it works like a charm.
[02:22] <MTec007> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:23] <MTec007> ok
[02:24] <aacosta> is anything graphical supposed to come out when i use volume up or down
[02:24] <knome> aacosta, i think my eeepc does that, but at least the volume buttons should *function* now...
[02:25] <MTec007> the volume icon near the clock has a "progress" type indicator
[02:25] <knome> MTec007, the eeepc-kernel has some notifications for brightness changes. those notifications usually appear with the volume control also. :)
[02:26] <MTec007> oh well i have the brightness on my dell but not for soud
[02:26] <MTec007> sound
[02:26] <aacosta> ope
[02:26] <aacosta> nope
[02:26] <aacosta> the keys still didnt work
[02:27] <aacosta> im pretty sure i did it right too
[02:28] <knome> did you enter the commands without the 's?
[02:28] <aacosta> what s?
[02:28] <knome> the ' characters
[02:29] <aacosta> oh yeah without
[02:29] <knome> ok...
[02:29] <knome> what does the "Shortcut" column say about the items?
[02:29] <aacosta> xf86audiolowervolume
[02:29] <aacosta> audio mute audio raise
[02:30] <knome> that's the *shortcut* column? or the command column?
[02:30] <knome> i can't remember what my eeepc says.
[02:31] <aacosta> shortcut
[02:31] <knome> okay... let me get my eeepc.
[02:31] <aacosta> haha dang thats awesome dude
[02:31] <aacosta> thanks
[02:33] <MTec007> knome, removing pulseaudio didnt work
[02:33] <MTec007> unless i need to reboot first
[02:34] <knome> aacosta, haven't set them - they just work and i have the notifications
[02:34] <knome> (i'm on intrepid, though, and the system is a bit different from jaunty)
[02:34] <knome> MTec007, i'm not sure.
[02:35] <knome> MTec007, have you selected the correct audio output from your audio apps?
[02:36] <knome> aacosta, what happens if you type 'aumix -v-10' in terminal?
[02:38] <MTec007> well i dont have any system sounds ( i enabled input sounds etc like when a message box pops up) and no flash sound
[02:39] <knome> hmm..
[02:39] <knome> sorry, atm i'm clueless.
[02:39] <MTec007> lol its ok, i appreciate that you attempted to help
[02:41] <aacosta> let me check
[02:47] <aacosta> othing happens
[02:48] <aacosta> when i type it into terminal
[02:48] <knome> okay - does the sound volume go down?
[02:48] <knome> (you can repeat a few times)
[02:49] <MTec007> knome, my /etc/group has this line: audio:x:29:pulse
[02:49] <knome> hmm
[02:52] <MTec007> brb
[02:55] <aacosta>  dont thnk so
[02:55] <aacosta> i dont htink so
[02:55] <aacosta> brb
[02:57] <knome> need to go. it's already 5am. good night :) ->
[02:57] <knome> aacosta, hope you will get it solved. good luck!
[02:59] <MTec007> man, this really isnt cool. i need sound
[03:29] <TheParoxysm> Hey!
[04:25] <marcus> I was wondering if someone could basically tell me what KDE and Gnome services are?
[04:26] <marcus> I know what Gnome and KDE are, just lack the understanding of what services means in XFCE
[04:30] <Froad> I am curious of the real speed advantages of xubuntu over kubuntu or ubuntu
[04:31] <Froad> i'm interested of putting some ubuntu based OS on a computer with 900mhz of ram
[04:31] <Froad> wait...
[04:31] <Froad> a 900mhz processor and 368mb of ram
[05:11] <ubuntu> hey guys, i have a new laptop with vista home basic on it.  i'm running the live ubuntu disk, and havent agreed to the microsoft eula.  if i install ubuntu as a dual os, will it work properly?  i've heard there are some probs with dual boot systems?
[05:12] <ubuntu> also, has anybody ever heard of Endura Video Player?  I can't find anything relevent about it in searches.
[05:15] <Froad> ubuntu first question: there are potential issues but it is definitely possible to do
[05:15] <Froad> go to #ubuntu
[05:15] <Froad> second question no i haven't
[05:18] <TheSheep> he left already
[05:18] <marcus> Is there something I have to do in XFCE to mount window partitions?
[05:19] <Froad> dang
[05:19] <Froad> i'm incompetent >.>
[05:46] <mavaddat> hello!
[05:46] <mavaddat> I am wondering if this is the place to ask for help on Xubuntu
[05:46] <mavaddat> is anyone here?
[05:46] <maduser> no
[05:47] <maduser> this is the help channel
[05:47] <maduser> whats your problem?
[05:47] <mavaddat> haha, thanks... ok, I'm having Flash player troubles in 64-bit Firefox
[05:48] <mavaddat> I'm not sure how I got it working, but I am currently using an old version of Flash player that only works some times... and very poorly
[05:48] <maduser> if it won't work from the deb, just get it from adobe and install manually
[05:48] <maduser> why are you using the old one?
[05:49] <mavaddat> I tried adding the latest x64 Flash player flashplayerplugin.so from Adobe, and it doesn't work at all (Flash doesn't even show up)
[05:49] <maduser> are you using the comand line installer?
[05:49] <mavaddat> sorry, it's called libflashplayer.so not ﻿flashplayerplugin.so
[05:49] <maduser> or are you just coping and pasting?
[05:50] <mavaddat> I am not using any installer, because I couldn't find an x64 installer
[05:50] <mavaddat> copying and pasting
[05:50] <mavaddat> so I'm currently forced to used Flash player 9.0r1.59 whereas the latest is 10.0r22
[05:51] <maduser> I believe you can use the 32bit
[05:51] <mavaddat> the installer fails
[05:51] <mavaddat> the 32-bit installer doesn't work
[05:51] <maduser> the deb?
[05:52] <mavaddat> oh, yes?
[05:52] <mavaddat> I think so
[05:53] <maduser> I mean dl the deb from the site and install that
[05:53] <mavaddat> ok, lemme try... 64-bit or 32-bit?
[05:53] <maduser> get the 32bit deb
[05:54] <mavaddat> ok, that's what I had been getting...
[05:54] <mavaddat> I'll tell you what it says... hold on
[05:56] <mavaddat> under status, it says in red, "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'"
[05:56] <maduser> ah
[05:56] <mavaddat> and "Install Package" is greyed out
[05:57] <mavaddat> any ideas?
[05:57] <maduser> nope
[06:29] <R1cochet> i was wondering if anyone had a reccommend on wether vmware or virtualbox is better?
[06:33] <TheSheep> qemu
[06:37] <R1cochet> thats better than the rest?
[06:38] <R1cochet> for all around purposes, some gaming in windows? and i think ill have to install mandriva or redhat or whatever it is.
[06:38] <R1cochet> i have a linux class coming up and they use a rpm distro
[06:51] <TheParoxysm> Is anyone alive currently?
[06:57] <R1cochet> nope
[06:57] <R1cochet> completely dead atm
[06:57] <TheParoxysm> I see.
[06:58] <R1cochet> ill be alive in a bit tho
[06:58] <TheParoxysm> That's too bad.
[06:58] <R1cochet> ys that
[06:58] <TheParoxysm> Well let me know when you rejoin the living if you don't mind.
[06:58] <TheParoxysm> It's too bad for me, lol.
[06:58] <R1cochet> np
[06:58] <R1cochet> gonna have a smoke and ill brb
[06:58] <TheParoxysm> Alright, thank you.
[06:58] <R1cochet> if u have a question i reccommend u just ask and someone should help u shortly
[06:59] <R1cochet> not sure if i can help u at all
[06:59] <marcus> Is there a reason why the desktop switcher will only allow me to have 2 desktops?
[06:59] <R1cochet> but ill try my best
[07:00] <TheParoxysm> Upper Right by Applications, and Places there's a Shortcut/Launcher for FireFox and Help.  I want to know how to put a Terminal and Thunderbird Launcher up there too.
[07:02] <marcus> Right click>Add item>Launcher?
[07:03] <TheParoxysm> It adds it to top left.
[07:03] <TheParoxysm> Lol, I'm a bit anal.
[07:03] <TheParoxysm> I'd like to have them all together.
[07:03] <marcus> Then rightclick>move?
[07:03] <TheParoxysm> Thank you!
[07:03] <marcus> Welcome.
[07:03] <TheParoxysm> I'm new to linux altogether, so everything I do makes me feel stupid.
[07:04] <marcus> Don't feel that way. Everybody was new once.
[07:04] <marcus> :)
[07:05] <TheParoxysm> Hm, what would you say is the most useful language to program on Linux?
[07:05] <marcus> Ruby or Python maybe.
[07:06] <TheParoxysm> I glanced over Python and it seemed pretty straightforward.  So I guess I'll give that the old college try.
[07:06] <TheParoxysm> Any other advice?
[07:06] <TheParoxysm> Oh, and if you've got the patience, I have another question.
[07:06] <marcus> Go ahead
[07:06] <marcus> I'll answer if i can.
[07:07] <TheParoxysm> Alright, this one's a doozy.
[07:07] <TheParoxysm> I have a laptop, and the hard drive is failing.
[07:07] <marcus> Okay.
[07:07] <TheParoxysm> Windows honestly seemed to agitate that.  It would literally be unable to boot after a couple reboots.
[07:07] <TheParoxysm> So I installed DSL on the harddrive, it was instantly familiar enough for an easy transition.
[07:08] <marcus> DSL is good.
[07:08] <TheParoxysm> Didn't fail on boot.  So I looked at other Linux distros that would be good for a 4-5 year old laptop.
[07:08] <TheParoxysm> DL/Burn/Install Xubuntu.
[07:09] <TheParoxysm> Works like a dream.  Unfortunately after 4 reboots, it's unable to boot.
[07:09] <R1cochet> yea i hear that xubuntu is light on resources
[07:09] <marcus> It is very much so
[07:09] <TheParoxysm> So I decided, hey, how about I get it the way I like it...
[07:09] <marcus> Sounds like you could have something damaged in your mbr.
[07:09] <TheParoxysm> Set up partitions on a portable hard drive.
[07:09] <TheParoxysm> Yes, that's correct.
[07:10] <TheParoxysm> The boot record is...damaged and irrepairable.
[07:10] <marcus> Have you tried repairing the MBR with a partition tool?
[07:10] <TheParoxysm> Yes, but the hardware is just dying.
[07:10] <TheParoxysm> Tried every tool at my disposal.
[07:10] <marcus> Okay you could always install the bootloader to the partition linux is in.
[07:11] <marcus> As opposed to MBR. How you would access it I do not know.
[07:11] <TheParoxysm> I've decided to just get another Harddrive.
[07:11] <TheParoxysm> Unfortunately, I'm deployed currently, so I cannot until I get back stateside.
[07:11] <marcus> I would presume the multi-boot in the computer would see it, but i have never tried it.
[07:12] <TheParoxysm> So my question is, what is the most painfree way to copy the install that I have on my hard drive, onto a partition on my portable hard drive?
[07:12] <TheParoxysm> I can boot from the Port, so it's preferable to use it in the meantime, as it's reliable.
[07:13] <marcus> You could back it up or you could save your home folder for reinstall. All the settings are in /Home/user (your name)
[07:13] <TheParoxysm> Programs, everything?
[07:14] <marcus> Programs no. Program settings yes.
[07:14] <TheParoxysm> Hm.
[07:14] <marcus> That is the best I can tell you for that one.
[07:15] <marcus> The only other alternative.....
[07:15] <marcus> Is to build a live cd from the installation on the hard disk and then reinstall it from there.
[07:16] <marcus> If you build the live cd it will be an exact copy of the source I believe.
[07:16] <TheParoxysm> Hm.
[07:17] <TheParoxysm> I'll be right back.
[07:17] <marcus> Okay.
[07:18] <R1cochet> marcus, does that mean it will have all the packs that u installed already and wond have to dl them again?
[07:19] <marcus> RIcochet: In theory yes.
[07:19] <marcus> When you install the live cd it will make a copy of the live cd on a hard disk.
[07:21] <R1cochet> well damn
[07:21] <R1cochet> so that means no need for reconstructor
[07:21] <marcus> Live cd making is an interesting idea. I have only seen it applied in PCLOS.
[07:23] <marcus> Like I said, in theory is should save all the packages and everything that are installed.
[07:29] <R1cochet> i saw a howto in ubuntu forums i think not long ago
[07:30] <R1cochet> didnt read much on it tho
[07:30] <marcus> It would be very interesting to at least try wouldn't it?
[07:30] <R1cochet> was more interested in reconstructor, but that doesnt seem to have the module i want and what it does have is outdated
[07:31] <marcus> Maybe i will try it at some point.
[07:31] <R1cochet> i know i will
[07:32] <R1cochet> prolly very soon
[07:32] <marcus> I would be interested in hearing the results.
[07:36] <R1cochet> i will let u know if i do it
[07:37] <marcus> Thank you.
[07:41] <R1cochet> u know theres also a pack called aptonCD
[07:41] <R1cochet> u might wanna look into that
[07:50] <marcus> I will thanks.
[08:09] <zer0o> hi guys, i installed xubuntu alternate cd on my old 486 laptop and all it seemed to work till the end of the installation, it reboot and GRUB does not load, it freezes to "GRUB loading, please wait..." can someone help me? considering im quite of a newbie with xubuntu. thanks
[08:35] <mib486> c'mon guys can someone help me with my grub not working?
[08:36] <R1cochet> sry i have no experience w/ alt install cd
[08:37] <mib486> dont u just know how to substitute grub with lilo?
[08:45] <R1cochet> no i dont
[08:45] <R1cochet> but i think theres a howto in the ubuntu forums
[08:45] <R1cochet> try google
[09:21] <TheParoxysm> After downloading a package in Synaptic, it goes to where it installs/configures.
[09:37] <Laibsch> how do I login as another user (get a second X) under Xubuntu?
[10:00] <ablomen> Laibsch, if you run sudo gdm there should be (after a couple of seconds of your screen flickering) a dialog (on ctrl+alt+f1) that asks if you want to start a new X server because server 0 is already in use, this will start a new X session (you can switch between them with ctrl+alt+F7 and ctrl+alt+F8)
[10:01] <Laibsch> thanks
[10:02] <Laibsch> I ran "gdmflexiserver" now which is what I think does the switching in Gnome, too
[10:02] <Laibsch> It would be nice if Xubuntu had a menu entry for this
[10:03] <Laibsch> I see that Ubuntu will switch from pidgin (which I currently use) to empathy for the main chat client
[10:03] <Laibsch> Is there any recommended chat client for XFCE?
[10:04] <ablomen> you can use any gtk chat client, i use xchat for irc and gajim for jabber myself
[10:04] <ablomen> (you could use kde chat clients too btw, its just not recommended if you dont use any other kde apps)
[10:05] <Laibsch> I know I can pretty much use any program in XFCE whether they were originally created for Gnome, KDE or whatnot
[10:05] <Laibsch> But of course running KDE and GNOME apps has a price in terms of ressource usage
[10:06] <Laibsch> I was wondering if there was a "preferred" or "official" xfce multi-protocol chat client
[10:45] <mikubuntu> is there any particular problem installing konkeror on ubuntu system, as it seems to be loading a lot of *k* (kubuntu?) packages?
[10:47] <mikubuntu> or by the same token, loading programs that depend on xfce on ubuntu?
[10:47] <Laibsch> mikubuntu: no, there usually are no problems
[10:48] <Laibsch> you will use more disk space for installation and more RAM when those libs are actually pulled in
[10:49] <mikubuntu> k, just wondered.  i have a fairly lot of space 160gb, and i don't save a bunch of stuff on my machine like pix or video or music.  just programs.
[10:49] <mikubuntu> *applications*
[10:50] <mikubuntu> Laibsch: so it will only draw that extra ram if i launch those apps, yes?
[10:50] <Laibsch> yes
[10:50] <mikubuntu> kool
[11:40] <bi0ne> anyone
[11:41] <TheSheep> !anybody
[11:42] <bi0ne> got stuck on 99% installing
[11:59] <jesus_> anyone know of a krunner substitute for xfce?
[12:34] <Laibsch> XFCE has problems with my dual-monitor setup.  gnome-display-properties even if called inside an XFCE session detects my two monitors just fine.  The XFCE Display applet only shows me one (the internal laptop display).
[12:35] <Laibsch> Any ideas what I should do?  I'm still new to XFCE, but I need my second monitor ;-)
[15:05] <Ramla> can i tell xfwm's smart window placement system where i do not want windows to open?
[16:08] <Slonkie> Anyone know if one is possible to FXP with filezilla?
[17:02] <muse> hey guys.. what exactly is the best way of getting a samba client to work in xubuntu?
[17:15] <ptizzy> i'm using gigolo, which works great, except it uses nautilus to browse, b/c thunar doesn't show the shares.
[17:15] <ptizzy> i believe i can setup fuse and thunar will show the shares, but i haven't had time to try it out
[17:19] <forces> !samba | muse
[17:20] <muse> oh.. thanks
[17:21] <muse> ya I have tried setting up fuse and it works but for some reason not on all the network shares?
[17:44] <Simetrical> To get my dual-monitor setup to work, I have to run a sequence of xrandr commands every time I log on.  Is there any way to automate this?  Some shell script that would run when I start up in a context where xrandr will actually work?
[17:51] <muse> Simetrical: hey dude.. why don't you just slap up a script, make it executable and add it to your startup applications?
[17:52] <Simetrical> muse, hmm.  Interesting.  So just add it to the "Session" menu or whatever?
[17:52] <muse> ya
[17:52] <Simetrical> I just remembered, I have another question.  How can I stop my last session's applications from automatically starting?
[17:52] <Simetrical> I want to manually decide which applications will start.
[17:53] <muse> ah well you have to turn off "remember sessions.." or whatever the check box was
[17:53] <muse> and clear one of the folders
[17:53] <muse> let me check
[17:55] <muse> I though it was ~/.local/something.. but I am not on xubuntu at the moment
[17:55] <Simetrical> Where's this "remember sessions"?  I couldn't find it at a quick glance.
[17:57] <muse> sorry I think it is "automatically remember running apps when logging out" and it should be where your startup app dialogue is
[17:57] <muse> make sure that is unchecked
[17:59] <muse> `rm ~/.cache/sessions/*` is what you need
[18:00] <muse> then uncheck the above check box and manually configure your startup apps using the respective dialogue in xubuntu which is System > Preferences > Startup Apps in ubuntu
[18:23] <Laibsch> Simetrical: dual monitor setup does not work for you OOTB, either?
[18:23] <Simetrical> Laibsch, not with Xfce.  Sort of did with GNOME.
[18:24] <Laibsch> Would be nice to get this fixed for good
[18:24] <Simetrical> Not really with GNOME either, TBH.
[18:24] <Laibsch> Simetrical: same here.
[18:24] <Laibsch> Worked almost fine in Gnome, here
[18:24] <Simetrical> On the other hand, once I've gotten it working, I prefer Xfce's dual-screen support.
[18:24] <Simetrical> Like the ability to put panels on any screen.
[18:38] <muse> I have a dual screen setup.. but one is projector that uses my nvidia tv-out. Not working at the moment as the projectors bulb is broken and as a student I can't afford to buy a new one. :P
[18:57] <crazygir> what do you need to do to unlock a drive?
[18:58] <crazygir> I have a usb device saying it is "locked"
[19:06] <crazygir> "The enclosing drive for the volume is locked."
[19:11] <Laibsch> Simetrical: I still need to look into panels
[19:12] <Laibsch> Do you have any good references/hints?
[19:12] <JPVS> Hello, need some helo using the shared folders function of Sun VirtualBox,
[19:12] <JPVS> I'm a newb in linux
[19:13] <JPVS> I guess I have to use the mount -t vboxfs data-ntfs /home/jack/share
[19:14] <JPVS> command
[19:14] <JPVS> can somebody help me please?
[19:15] <JPVS> the help file of Sun VirtualBox is really really short (1 line short)
[19:16] <crazygir> JPVS: that's a better question for the vbox irc channel..
[19:17] <JPVS> ok, thankyou, I'm going to search in that channel
[19:17] <crazygir> :)
[19:23] <marcus> Okay. Interesting thing here. I have nautilus running over Xfce. I suspect because of dropbox. Is this going to hinder xfce?
[19:24] <cody-somerville> yea
[19:24] <marcus> Why?
[19:25] <marcus> I mean other than covering up my Xfce desktop.
[19:26] <crazygir> it's nautilus?
[19:37] <crazygir> I'm pretty stuck on this locked drive issue, any suggestions are greatly appreciated :)
[19:42] <cody-somerville> crazygir, Can you post a screenshot of the error?
[19:42] <cody-somerville> I've never heard of this problem before
[19:43] <crazygir> http://www.google.com/search?q=The+enclosing+drive+for+the+volume+is+locked.&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&start=0&sa=N
[19:43] <crazygir> lots of other folks have, I've yet to see a viable solution
[19:44] <crazygir> I can mount the drive manually, but not with the automounter
[19:44] <crazygir> I'm at the point where I'm considering a full system grep for the UUID
[19:45] <crazygir> cody-somerville: I could certainly take a screenshot if needed
[19:47] <cody-somerville> crazygir, What type of partitioning does the stick have?
[19:47] <crazygir> it's an 8GB USB stick with a single FAT32 partition
[19:49] <crazygir> cody-somerville: are you familiar with the locking that goes on when a drive is mounted?
[19:50] <cody-somerville> not really
[19:51] <crazygir> this is one of those spiffy things the system does behind your back to keep things short and sweet
[19:51] <crazygir> but causes problems when you've got to know what's going on
[19:57] <crazygir> I guess I'll have to use the windows method.
[19:57] <crazygir> fsck
[20:18] <muse> crazygir: does your flash stick have a button any where on it?
[20:36] <crazygir> muse: nope
[20:37] <muse> ok.. its just that some do and the problems you are describing sound exactly as if you have press the lock button
[20:39] <ochosi> hey, does anyone here know how to make synaptic remember the "(don't) consider recommended packages as dependencies"? this is really an annoying "feature" of jaunty...
[20:46] <muse> open up synaptic, press 'alt+s', then 'p'.. under 'Marking Changes' there is a checkbox
[20:46] <muse> @ochosi
[20:47] <ochosi> i know, i've set this option quite a couple of times, but each time i restart synaptic the tickbox is ticked again
[20:47] <ochosi> @muse
[20:48] <muse> perhaps it defaults back cause mine is also rechecked?
[20:49] <ochosi> yep, that's why my initial question was how to make synaptic remember
[20:49] <ochosi> maybe there's a config-file somewhere
[20:49] <ochosi> but i haven't started digging yet
[20:51] <ochosi> but i've also been thinking about reporting that as a bug
[20:51] <ochosi> donno where yet though
[20:53] <muse> it wouldnt be a bug I think
[20:53] <ochosi> if a setting isn't saved even though i click "apply" i consider that a bug
[20:55] <muse> it would be saved but only for that session to prevent that actions only for the next few package installs.. perhaps :)
[20:56] <ochosi> i agree, but unexpected behaviour is still i bug in my view. (or at least what they call a papercut nowadays)
[21:03] <muse> well I can't find a conf anywhere to change this behaviour.. which indicates it could be a bug
[21:04] <ochosi> ok, thanks muse. i'll be going after this in two weeks or so. right now i don't have time to seriously investigate anyways...
[21:05] <muse> ok
[21:08] <aacosta> is there any application on linux that has an easy interface for creating business cards?
[21:10] <muse> oddly enough yes.. glabels. Haven't tried it myself though
[21:12] <crazygir> aacosta: printing or creating?
[21:12] <crazygir> aacosta: inkscape rocks for creating that kinda stuff
[21:12] <crazygir> focused on the keyboard, so you're super fast with the graphic work :)
[21:17] <aacosta> yea thats what someone told me
[21:17] <aacosta> inskcape is  to adobe illustrator what gimp is to photoshop
[21:18] <aacosta> how hard would it be to create a business cardd
[21:18] <aacosta> for a noobie like me
[21:21] <MTec007> hello every one
[21:22] <MTec007> i need some help with my audio. i have an intel chipset and i had sound working on my last install but i cant get it working this time
[21:22] <MTec007> i dont have any sound at all, no system sound nor flash player sound
[21:23] <crazygir> aacosta: easy squeezy
[21:24] <crazygir> aacosta: check out some of the tutorials
[21:24] <crazygir> there is a short learning curve, but it's far shorter than trying to use any other powerful app
[21:24] <crazygir> aacosta: all you're really doing is text boxes and graphics.. you can then take the other effects as far as you want
[21:26] <MTec007> sounds like GIMP
[21:29] <aacosta> ou have any links to it
[21:29] <aacosta> to tutorials
[21:30] <aacosta> and to install i just sudo apt-get install inkscape
[21:30] <aacosta> damn 14 mb
[21:30] <muse> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tutorial+inkscape
[21:43] <crazygir> aacosta: google
[21:43] <crazygir> MTec007: it's far simpler to use than GIMP
[21:43] <crazygir> and it's for vectored gfx
[21:47] <MTec007> ah, vector gfx.. i never needed to print anything except in high school.. thats the last time i messed with vector
[22:02] <mikubuntu> could someone walk me thru my first taste of wine?  i have a disk with and .exe file for a video reader, and a video file on it.  on windows, you put the disk in the tray and it autoprompts for install.  how do i make it work on my wine/buntu?
[22:07] <MTec007> the exe should automatically load into wine
[22:07] <MTec007> if not you may have to run the exe
[22:08] <MTec007> or double click on the exe
[22:09] <MTec007> its a shame you still feel the need to use windows apps when on linux :P
[22:09] <mikubuntu> you mean if i put it in the drive it should automatically start wine up?
[22:11] <MTec007> the exe, when run, will automatically run inside wine. i dont know if it will 'just work' when you put the cd in. you may have to run the exe yourself by alt+f2 or double clicking on the exe file, on your cd
[22:11] <mikubuntu> yes its a shame, but this is a courthouse video, and it apparently only works on an endura video player which they sent me which i cannot find anywhere in a linux format, altho the mother system its off of is linux.
[22:11] <MTec007> lol
[22:12] <MTec007> thats the second timei have heard of this courthouse scenario
[22:12] <MTec007> why cant they send people regular dvds
[22:13] <MTec007> assuming every one uses windows is really bias
[22:13] <MTec007> 'oh you dont use windows? well too bad. you must use it to see this ..blahblah..'
[22:15] <MTec007> im stubborn. i would be calling some one to get a format i can actually use
[22:18] <mikubuntu> ok, i got the player up, but it doesn't render any video just a black screen ... arrrrrrggggghhhhhhh
[22:20] <mikubuntu> it seems to be 'playing' because the time counter is moving, but no video
[22:22] <MTec007> w32codecs
[22:22] <MTec007> !w32codecs
[22:22] <MTec007> im pretty sure thats what you need
[22:24] <mikubuntu> oh, ya.  just got this laptop, you're right haven't loaded them yet or libdvdcss2
[22:24] <mikubuntu> thx
[22:24] <mikubuntu> brb
[22:24] <aacosta> anyone know of a different location to find this
[22:24] <aacosta> http://www.worldlabel.com/Templates/wl-ol244PDF.htm
[22:25] <mikubuntu> !video
[22:33] <muse> aacosta: http://tinyurl.com/n6ksj6
[22:49] <mikubuntu> dadblast it.  i installed medibuntu and then individually libdvdcss2 and w32codecs and still not getting picture on this endura video player ....
[22:49]  * mikubuntu is racking a pitifully small brain
[22:50] <mikubuntu> or is it wracking?
[22:51] <mikubuntu> MTec007: any other ideas?
[22:51] <MTec007> hmm
[22:52] <mikubuntu> hmmm
[22:57] <MTec007> you might need to find some codecs and install them in wine
[22:58] <mikubuntu> ??? huh ???
[22:58] <mikubuntu> what you talkin about willis?
[22:59] <mikubuntu> you mean install the w32codecs to wine?
[23:01] <MTec007> im not sure how that works
[23:02] <MTec007> but i do know wine does need codecs. it needs codecs for ventrillo
[23:04] <aacosta> i had finally got my wireles working on my eepc xubuntu jaunty
[23:04] <aacosta> and i dont know what happend today
[23:04] <aacosta> that it just stopped working
[23:04] <aacosta> maybe i did an update
[23:45] <aacosta> anyone know about a bug with wireless on xubuntu 9.04
[23:45] <aacosta> i had it working and it stop working otda
[23:45] <aacosta> after only a day
[23:45] <aacosta> any ideas
[23:52] <mikubuntu> i am trying to play a video sent to me from a courthouse security system.  the disk comes with 'endura video player' which i tried on a windows machine last nite and it workd fine.  when i put it into my ubuntu 9.04 the player comes up, but when i open the video file it doesnt render video.   the file is detected there, because in 'play' mode the timebar/progress bar is in forward motion.  i...
[23:52] <mikubuntu> ...have installed on the ubuntu libdvdcss2 and w32codecs, but someone said maybe i need to install codecs directly to wine?  how would i do that (if thats what i need to do)?
[23:56] <aacosta> i installed the array.org kernal for my eeepc
[23:56] <aacosta> and my wireless only worked one day
[23:56] <aacosta> is there smeothing i can do
[23:56] <aacosta> get it working again