/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/26/#kubuntu-devel.txt

vorianQuintasan: I sumon thee01:18
voriansummon01:18
voriantoo01:18
vorianneversfelde: Thou art summoned as well01:20
ryanakcanhandler: *nod*, file a bug so I don't forget between tonight and tomorrow and I'll get to it01:27
ryanakcanhandler: also, if kobby is all good, could you ack and upload please?01:30
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nhandlerryanakca: ping04:17
nhandlerI added the Kubuntu Tutorials Day schedule to the Fridge04:39
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Quintasanvorian is not lucky, he summoned me 12 minutes after I went to bed :<09:08
manudwarfhi !09:11
manudwarfI've read about the next Kubuntu Tutorial Day09:12
manudwarfAnd I had a question09:13
manudwarf*have09:13
manudwarfHow will it work ?09:13
manudwarfSome people are gonna talking while the other sit on their chairs and read ?09:14
freeflyingScottK: we begin generate kubuntu-remix img?09:32
manudwarffreeflying: there will be a netbook-remix for kubuntu ?09:50
freeflyingmanudwarf: probably, seems tonio is working on it09:50
manudwarffreeflying: thank you09:52
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QuintasanJontheEchidna: ping10:31
QuintasanHURRDURR10:51
jussi01Quintasan: huh? :D10:52
Quintasanjussi01: nothing, vorian's gone and JontheEchidna is not here :/10:53
jussi01ahh10:54
* jussi01 hugs Quintasan10:54
Quintasan:<10:54
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ScottKfreeflying: We won't call it a remix because we are doing all the work in official archive, so yes, we are getting close to having initial imaged for Kubuntu Netbook Edition.12:20
* ScottK needs to spend some quality time with debian-cd first however.12:21
jussi01ScottK: you are a super star!12:21
* jussi01 thinks he will install in a VM12:21
freeflyingScottK: yes, you're right12:22
freinhardwasn't there a discussion about that down arrow in kpackagekit here yesterday?12:23
ScottKInitially it won't be a lot different than regular Kubuntu.  Due to the inherent scalability of KDE4 size wise there is a lot we can do just with default settings changes.12:23
ScottKIf someone would like a useful project, we need a MIR done for arora.  If someone wanted to draft something up, I'd be glad to review it.12:26
freinhardQuintasan: saw you commited to update-notifier-kde, maybe you'd like to review my branch.12:27
Quintasanfreinhard: I'm not a coder but I can look what you changed :P12:28
Quintasanfreinhard: did you test it?12:28
freeflyingScottK: wanna use arora replace konqueror?12:29
freinhardQuintasan: sure12:29
freinhardQuintasan: testcase: systemsettings>desktopsearch12:29
ScottKfreeflying: We are considering it for both regular Kubuntu and the netbook edition.12:29
ScottKUpstream has some work to do to get there, but it seems reasonably doable.12:30
freinhardQuintasan: you get the notification to install some package, installation fails due to lack of internet connection, button is gone, confuses most people.12:30
freinhardQuintasan: needs kdesudo from trunk. current release doesn't return exitcodes.12:33
Quintasanfreinhard: I proposed a merge, code looks fine for me (at lest it makes sense :D). I requested a merge -> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/update-notifier-kde/trunk/+merges12:40
Quintasanfreinhard: also didn't someone gave you access to the trunk?12:42
freinhardQuintasan: kdesudo not update-m-k12:42
Quintasanargh12:42
freinhardQuintasan: maybe there is one issue: for the uncommon case you really don't want to install the proposed packages you've got no chance to get rid of the icon in the systray except for restarting u-m-k or logout/in12:43
Quintasanok, looks fine, I have to go now, please request a merge to kdesudo on LP or pokestorm Riddell12:44
freinhardQuintasan: k, we'll see what happens ;)12:45
hsitterQuintasan: ping13:00
Tm_TScottK: you have tried plasma-mid yet?13:04
ScottKTm_T: I have not.  I have a netbook on order.  Once I get that, I'll start fiddling with it.13:05
ScottKTm_T: My main focus at the moment is on the bits of plumbing needed to spawn a new *buntu flavor.13:05
Tm_TScottK: you can run it everywhere (;)13:05
Tm_Troger13:05
ScottKTm_T: I can, but I've got limited time and I'm trying to focus.13:05
Tm_Taye, know the thing13:07
freinhardis there a list of keywords launchpad automatically converts into links? like "bug <bugno>"13:08
Tm_T!me13:23
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Tm_Tfreinhard: see above, maybe have the needed information13:23
JontheEchidnaAnyboyd see bug 392469?13:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 392469 in kubuntu-meta "kubuntu-desktop has no dependencies in karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39246913:33
EvilRoeyhey all thanks for that tutorial session this Monday13:37
hsitterJontheEchidna, ScottK: kubuntu-meta aint got no bzr branch?13:37
JontheEchidnahsitter: it's project name is something weird13:37
hsittermust have been set by ubuntu then :P13:38
hsitteralso, it is not refernced in the control file13:38
hsitterPITA!13:38
JontheEchidnahttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/13:38
hsitterJontheEchidna: seed != meta13:38
JontheEchidnaFirefox's awesome bar ftw13:38
hsitterseed == cd seeds13:39
hsittermeta == meta packages13:39
hsitterso I assume we aint got no branch after all13:39
JontheEchidnathe meta package gets generated from the seeds13:39
hsitterit is?13:39
JontheEchidnathink so, or at least when I first tried to patch kubuntu-meta I was told that you couldn't edit the package directly13:40
* hsitter only hacked the seeds once in his entire time with kubuntu13:40
hsitterJontheEchidna: in that case I would say the packaging is broken since it doesn't say so anywhere13:41
JontheEchidnamaybe ScottK knows for sure?13:42
* hsitter checks seeds branch13:42
hsitterall  the time I have worked on Kubuntu I only changed the seeds once I think :D13:42
hsitterJontheEchidna: no, meta is independent from the seeds13:43
* hsitter notes that the netbook seed list is a monster considering it's target platform :P13:44
JontheEchidnapeople upgrading from jaunty + amarok 2.1 ppa are running into bug 39152613:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 391526 in dpkg "Kubutu Karmic amd64 alpha 2 with KDE 4.3 version 4.2.90 does not install due to package dependancy problems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39152613:44
* hsitter loves when people don't provide enough information to make them get karma for a package fix :S13:45
hsitterJontheEchidna: wrong package13:47
hsitterJontheEchidna: should be libqtscript or whatever the source is called13:48
hsitterand each of those 3 billion binary packages needs to conflict the appropriate ones from the ppa13:48
hsitterwhich is one of the reasons I did not split that small in the ppa13:48
hsitterbut hey, what is maintainablility ;-)13:49
hsitterW: kubuntu-desktop: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file13:49
* hsitter giggles13:49
hsitterJontheEchidna: btw, what should I be talking about in my ruby talk? :P13:53
* hsitter is so incredibly unsure it's not even funny13:54
JontheEchidnayou're the one that knows ruby :P13:54
* hsitter is also the one that only can do talks fitted for an audience that at least speaks 2 other programming languages or knows a fair deal about software development :P13:55
JontheEchidnaNightrose: really? We hav to wait until Kubuntu 9.10 to get any fixes for amarok?13:56
JontheEchidnalike, for serious?13:56
hsitterwhat is broken?13:56
JontheEchidnauft-8 chars13:57
hsitterJontheEchidna: btw, nick!13:57
hsitterJontheEchidna: do we have a bug report about that?13:57
JontheEchidnahttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17827813:57
ubottuKDE bug 178278 in CollectionBrowser "Umlauts treated case-sensitive in collection search" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:57
NightroseJontheEchidna: yea encoding and stuff is serious breakage potential13:57
Nightroseno way we are going to backport the encoding fixes anyway13:57
* JontheEchidna wonders what the point of reporting bugs is if they'll never get fixed for 6 months13:58
Nightroseand honestly there were no really backportable fixes as far sas i can tell so far in 2.213:58
hsitterwell13:58
hsitteryou know13:58
Nightrose? they are fixed for 2.213:58
hsitterI pointed out that issues back when I was working over at amarok's13:58
hsitterso that issues is older than 6 months13:59
hsitterdidn't work in all of 1.4 IIRC13:59
Nightrosepossibly14:00
JontheEchidnabug 320305 was reported 6 months ago, now we're going to tell them that they have to wait 2 more kubuntu releases for a fix :/14:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 320305 in amarok "Upper/lower case problems with extended latin characters" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32030514:01
hsitterwhile we are at it, who broke amaork-nightly?14:01
hsitterJontheEchidna: it is not really a major issue14:01
hsittera usability drag maybe14:02
* Nightrose thinks so as well14:02
* hsitter thinks he only noticed for the example stated in the bug report14:02
JontheEchidnaI just don't see the point in triaging any bugs for amarok then, if they just might maybe be fixed in 6 months anyways14:02
Nightrosethat is not really logical14:03
Nightroseand it costs me a lot of time to branch and tag and release14:03
Nightrosesorry but i don't have that atm14:03
hsitter  Could NOT find required package LibLastFm14:03
Nightrosenot if not absolutely necessary14:03
hsitterNightrose: I though you made that optional?14:03
Nightrosehsitter: still being discussed14:03
hsitterNightrose: btw, if paleo stops by... kollide's clock is off again14:03
Nightrosek14:03
hsitterNightrose: I would recommend that he sets up a cron to ntpdate every day or so ;-)14:04
Nightrosehehe14:04
hsitterseriously, the neon logs always double in size when the clock goes off too far and tar starts complaining14:04
hsittermarkey: ping14:05
hsitterNightrose: what do you think should I be talking about in my ruby talk?14:05
Nightrosehsitter: no idea ;-)14:06
Nightrosemeeting now14:06
Nightroselaters14:06
hsitteroh dear, debian policy is at 3.8.2 already -.-14:07
kahsitter: I think how to make plasmoids out with ruby would be cool14:07
hsitterka: the thing is... 90% of the work with plasmoids is completely boring non-gui stuff :D14:08
hsittermaybe I should explain how to create a lib, that way one can put an app or a plasmoid on top of that :D14:09
kaYeah thats cool.14:09
kaI am all for flashy gui talks. Hit them with the non gui stuff after they are hooked...14:10
ryanakcahsitter: What's required to get device support working in Amarok2? Googling shows a post from late 2008 (iirc) that says it works in the Amarok SVN, but something is happening on the Kubuntu side for it not to happen, and it was a known issue? Or was the guy off his rocker?14:12
* JontheEchidna added a few songs to his iPod yesterday using amarok14:13
kaCan I add songs to the iphone via amarok?14:14
kaOr does it only work with ipods up to ipod touch?14:15
ryanakcaHmmm... *upgrades*14:15
hsitterryanakca: libgpod14:15
hsitterthe -nogtk thingy doesn't work anymore I ahve been told14:16
hsitterka: should work with iphone too14:16
hsitteralso you should be able to transfer pictures and videos14:16
hsitternot sure about the latter though14:16
ryanakcahsitter: I think so too, I remember reading on the wiki that there wasn't a gui for it or an explicit way, but if you dragged and dropped a video to the transfer cue, it would get transfered... Something of the sort :)14:17
JontheEchidnawe build our current karmic packages with -nogtk at least14:17
JontheEchidnajaunty ones too, I think14:17
hsitterryanakca: gtkpod being the gui :P14:17
hsitterJontheEchidna: better talk to upstream14:18
JontheEchidnaI'm just saying it works here :P14:18
hsitterI think neversfelde talked to sebr some time ago and he claimed amarok 2.1 will only work with gdk stuff14:18
hsitterJontheEchidna: *shrug* maybe they fixed their stuff :P14:18
hsitterryanakca: why is kobby not using pkg-kde-tools?14:19
kahsitter: Really ? Sweet.14:19
hsitterka: the video and picture stuff requires libgpod without the -nogtk though14:19
ryanakcahsitter: *shrug*, I'll add it in14:19
hsittergdk is required for any kind of image transfer AFAIK14:19
hsitterryanakca: replace cmake with it14:19
hsitterand remember to use kde.mk14:19
ryanakcahsitter: installed to where? /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde.mk ?14:21
hsitter/usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/cdbs/kde.mk14:22
freinharddtchen: http://gitorious.org/ubuntu/linux-firmware-karmic/commit/fd5f7f24822593743dd5f62a22b8b4d2c3f9cd7f14:23
hsitteroh dear14:23
hsitterkalternatives needs a fixed desktop file to ensure it is rooted14:24
neversfeldehsitter: that was only about cover support for ipods14:31
neversfeldeall other things should work14:31
hsitterI see14:31
hsitterhm, the rootonly key is there14:35
hsitterbut commented out14:35
stevieramalamdingdong14:35
stevieneversfelde: did you get my private message?14:36
neversfeldein this moment14:36
steviebetter late than never i guess?14:36
stevie:P14:36
neversfeldehehe14:36
hsittersvn 98761714:41
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=987617&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 98761714:41
* hsitter hits the shower14:41
Mamarokhsitter: I need a new package for Gibson-dw14:43
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freinharddtchen: changelog update http://gitorious.org/ubuntu/linux-firmware-karmic/commit/aa4d792e208dba839b90044a50165aa4187f7f0114:50
hsitterMamarok: just send me the URL by mail, I am heading out right now, I'll try to get to it later today14:55
steviehsitter: do not go outside today!14:57
Mamarokhsitter: ok, will do as soon as I have the tarball :)14:59
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ScottKhsitter: Thanks for fixing kubuntu-meta.  My bad on that one.15:21
ScottKhsitter: For -meta there isn't a lot of point in a bzr branch since virtually the entire package gets regenerated from seeds.  One only needs to fiddle with rules like I messed up on the rare ocassion of making a new flavor.  Even a new architecture is just a config file change.15:23
ScottKSo who's doing Qt 4.5.2?15:26
voriando we need that done prior to the 4.3RC ?15:26
ScottKvorian: Need, no, but sooner the better.15:30
vorianok15:31
* vorian finds out what's on the agenda for today15:31
vorianif we aint got nothing planned, i'll work on it ScottK15:31
ScottKCool.  I know I don't have time and Riddell's probably busy doing whatever he's doing this week.15:32
vorianaieght15:38
ScottKrgreening: You have an action from the release team meeting: [ACTION] rgreening to document kubuntu-netbook install process for ISO tracker test cases16:11
aplglol16:15
ScottKDoes anyone know if the fix for Bug 339313 is in the pending NM widget SRU?16:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 339313 in ubuntu-release-notes "Kubuntu Jaunty: Cannot Connect To Wireless Network with WEP shared key" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33931316:18
vorianScottK: last i knew was a|wen was championing that fix and has since gone awol16:21
ScottKvorian: Does that mean it's not in the SRU?16:22
voriani don't know16:22
ScottKGrumble.16:24
ScottKIs anyone working on the 'Social from the start' spec?16:27
* ScottK looks at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-usb-creator-for-windows/ and wonders how we get a piece of that.16:59
pktwhat is the deal with konq-plugins package?17:02
pktthe konq-plugins source package produces both konq-plugins and a number of standalone plugins17:03
pktnow e.g., konq-plugins and konqueror-plugin-searchbar conflict with eachother17:03
ScottKpkt: JontheEchidna is the one who likely know.17:03
pktthe problem is that the conflicting packages are both parts of the kubuntu-desktop task17:04
pktso tasksel --install kubuntu-desktop dies17:04
pktsorry tasksel install kubuntu-desktop17:04
pktJontheEchidna?17:05
pktI 'm happy to write the patch to fix the problem if I can understand exactly what is happening17:06
ScottKIIRC he did the current package structure for them, so we should wait for him to be available to chat about it.17:07
pktthanks, I 'll wait and in the meantime look into the problem myself17:08
rgreeningScottK: usb-creator packaging almost done. It now mostly works. I will need some help with packaging questions and translation po/* files (do they need to be instaslled or simply removed after build but before packaging?17:09
xtremekHello everyone17:10
ScottKrgreening: Your package should just do normal stuff with the po files and let the LP magic strip them for the language packs when we get it in Main17:10
rgreeningScottK: oh, and I have a local deb that installs fine. Making test usb stick as we speak. When will actual netbook image be ready?17:10
ScottKrgreening: Depens on how long it takes to get my debian-cd branch reviewed.17:11
rgreeningScottK: what's normal?17:11
ScottKSoon.17:11
ScottKrgreening: You seem to think I know something about translations.17:11
* ScottK wonders why that is?17:11
rgreeningcool. ISO for netbook needs to be actual ISO size for CD or an img file.17:11
rgreeninglol17:12
* rgreening doesn't either. I speek onlee da englush17:12
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ScottKrgreening: ISO works from dvd, so actual can be large (as I understand it)17:19
* ScottK looks at hsitter for some PO file foo for rgreening.17:19
rgreeningScottK: another question, I need to rename usb-creator (old version) to usb-creator-gtk and conflict/replace it... whats the best way to ensure use upgrades successfully from usb-creator to usb-creator-gtk?17:21
rgreenings/use/user/17:21
ScottKTransitional package of usb-creator that depends on usb-creator-gtk.17:22
JontheEchidnapkt: this is karmic?17:26
rgreeningScottK: ok, so rename usb-creator to usb-creator-gtk and add a new entry for usb-creator with depend usb-creator-gtk17:26
rgreeningno need to conflict/replace?17:26
pktJontheEchidna: yes17:27
JontheEchidnapkt: the separate packages are empty transitional packages17:27
pktthe problem is that they both conflict and are part of the same task17:28
JontheEchidnaoops17:28
pktremoving konqueror-plugin-searchbar from the kubuntu-desktop task would probably solve the problem17:28
JontheEchidnathose shouldn't conflict, the replace + binary transitional package should be enough17:29
JontheEchidnathough they would need to be removed from the task17:29
pkthow can they be removed from the task?17:30
JontheEchidnaer, the kubuntu-desktop meta package17:30
pktno it is the task that is the problem17:30
pktin Packages.gz they have a Tasks: kubuntu-desktop field17:30
pktI removed them from the metapackages17:31
pktwhat I can not figure out is how is this Task: field generated17:31
pktit is not in the DEBIAN/control file in the binaries17:31
pkttasksel has way too much black magic :)17:33
pktJontheEchidna: I see how it works now17:34
pktit is the override file in the mirror (!)17:35
JontheEchidnaScottK: Could you sponsor this for me please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/204381/17:35
pkthttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/indices/override.karmic.extra.main17:36
pktnow things start to make sense :)17:37
pktso in the meantime I 'll just put the fixed konq-plugins package in my ppa and be done with it, thanks JontheEchidna :)17:39
JontheEchidnayou're welcome, thanks for spotting the error17:40
pktno problem17:40
ryanakcaCan someone sponsor kobby please? http://revu.tauware.de/p/kobby17:54
nhandlerryanakca: Care to make the change to the description?17:59
nhandlerAh, I missed the last upload ;)18:00
Quintasanhsitter: pong18:06
Quintasanvorian: ping18:08
ryanakcanhandler: Should be the one from 19:0018:08
nhandlerryanakca: I'm looking it over now. I see one small grammatical thing still in the description, but if that is all, I'll advocate with a comment. It can be fixed on upload18:09
ryanakcanhandler: *nod*, thanks18:11
pktJontheEchidna: ping18:12
pktI was playing some table tennis and it came to me that perhaps the fix that removes the Conflicts: is wrong18:13
pktthe correct fix is imho to just remove the individual plugins from the task18:13
pktthe Conflicts: is required so that nobody attempts to install konq-plugins and the individual ones in the same "session"18:14
pktReplaces: takes care of the upgrade case18:15
nhandlerryanakca: Also, are you sure that the next release for kobby (and future ones after that) will work properly with the watch file? Otherwise, you can mangle the version18:16
ryanakcanhandler: I'm not sure as to how to mangle the version...18:16
_Groo_hi/2 all18:27
rgreeningScottK-desktop: who wants usb-creator-kde :)19:07
rgreeningalmost ready to upload a package to my PPA for testing/debugging19:07
e-jatrgreening: feel free to upload :)19:29
rgreeninglol19:31
rgreeningsoon... soon...19:31
QuintasanFFFFFUUUU- stupid wireless router19:36
rgreeninguploaded usb-creator-0.2.0~beta1 lp:~roderick-greening (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/roderick-greening/ppa/ubuntu karmic main)20:25
rgreeningScottK-desktop: ^20:26
rgreeningstill has some glaring bugs... but essentially works.20:26
rgreeningassuming it builds...20:26
* ScottK looks20:32
Quintasanhsitter: pongstorm20:37
ScottKrgreening: Did you make sure usb-creator-gtk still works too?21:22
rgreeningof course21:23
ScottKrgreening: I'd say ship it then.21:23
rgreeningScottK: this is the official source tree21:23
rgreening:)21:23
rgreeningI just haven't pushed yet. Almost ready to push to bzr21:23
rgreeningI want to get sign-off from evand to publish a version first (though I do not expect any issue seeing as the packaging never worked until I fixed it).21:24
rgreeningScottK: ^21:24
* rgreening is proud of what I have done :)21:24
ScottKrgreening: I agree with checking with evand.21:25
rgreeningAt any rate, you can at least test from my PPA for now.21:25
* ScottK high fives rgreening and then very quietly mentions he forgot to bring the jacket along today so it didn't get mailed.21:25
rgreeningScottK: and beta2 will be uploaded in a minue. I make a KDE Icon instead of using the GTK one.21:26
rgreeninghehe21:26
rgreening*slap*21:26
rgreeningfor the hi-521:26
rgreeninghonest21:26
ScottKrgreening: Great.  The one concern I had when I looked at it was the .png icon.  I think we need a .svg.21:26
rgreening:P21:26
rgreeningdunno how that translates into PyKDE Icon loading...21:27
rgreeningRiddell: ^21:27
rgreeningthoughts?21:27
* ScottK bets hsitter knows.21:27
rgreeningmebee21:27
rgreeningfor now.. works.21:27
rgreeningI managed to stay away from packaging KDE, so I actually got this done :)21:29
rgreeningYAY21:29
* rgreening does the hustle21:29
* JontheEchidna managed to get a sinus infection from his dad21:29
rgreeningouch21:30
ScottKJontheEchidna: You gotta stop sharing snot.21:30
rgreeningsnot gonna do-it21:35
rgreeningwouldnt be prudent21:35
ScottKJontheEchidna: That is unfortunate.  I know those are unpleasant.   I hope you feel better soon.21:38
JontheEchidnathx21:39
rgreeningScottK: kwwii is making me an icon21:47
ScottKrgreening: Cool.21:47
tsdgeoshiya guys22:31
tsdgeosshouldn't the system-config-printer-kde contain something useful? here it just contains the copyright stuff and a .desktop file that points to a non existant binary22:31
_Groo_is anyone building 4.3 beta 3 yet?22:42
Mamarok_Groo_: you mean RC?22:42
Mamarokaka 3.2.9522:42
_Groo_Mamarok: yes, sorry, rc22:43
_Groo_Mamarok: just checked kubuntu-ppa experimental, no trace yet :(22:43
Mamarokwell, I hope somebody will build it, but maybe everybody is waiting for final, as it's due on July 13th22:45
smarter_Mamarok: it's being packaged by the ninjas ;)22:47
smarter_but won't be released until RC1 is officialy released22:48
smarter_(at least)22:48
Mamaroksmarter_: nice :)22:49
* Quintasan can't catch hsitter or vorian :<22:51
smarter_Quintasan: you can't catch ninjas, they move to fast.22:58
lex79yeah22:59
Quintasansmarter_: nah, it's just they ping me at wrong times :P23:04
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ScottKBug 38704123:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 387041 in jaunty-backports "please backport choqok 0.6.1 from karmic to jaunty" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38704123:45

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