[01:18] <vorian> Quintasan: I sumon thee
[01:18] <vorian> summon
[01:18] <vorian> too
[01:20] <vorian> neversfelde: Thou art summoned as well
[01:27] <ryanakca> nhandler: *nod*, file a bug so I don't forget between tonight and tomorrow and I'll get to it
[01:30] <ryanakca> nhandler: also, if kobby is all good, could you ack and upload please?
[04:17] <nhandler> ryanakca: ping
[04:39] <nhandler> I added the Kubuntu Tutorials Day schedule to the Fridge
[09:08] <Quintasan> vorian is not lucky, he summoned me 12 minutes after I went to bed :<
[09:11] <manudwarf> hi !
[09:12] <manudwarf> I've read about the next Kubuntu Tutorial Day
[09:13] <manudwarf> And I had a question
[09:13] <manudwarf> *have
[09:13] <manudwarf> How will it work ?
[09:14] <manudwarf> Some people are gonna talking while the other sit on their chairs and read ?
[09:32] <freeflying> ScottK: we begin generate kubuntu-remix img?
[09:50] <manudwarf> freeflying: there will be a netbook-remix for kubuntu ?
[09:50] <freeflying> manudwarf: probably, seems tonio is working on it
[09:52] <manudwarf> freeflying: thank you
[10:31] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: ping
[10:51] <Quintasan> HURRDURR
[10:52] <jussi01> Quintasan: huh? :D
[10:53] <Quintasan> jussi01: nothing, vorian's gone and JontheEchidna is not here :/
[10:54] <jussi01> ahh
[10:54]  * jussi01 hugs Quintasan
[10:54] <Quintasan> :<
[12:20] <ScottK> freeflying: We won't call it a remix because we are doing all the work in official archive, so yes, we are getting close to having initial imaged for Kubuntu Netbook Edition.
[12:21]  * ScottK needs to spend some quality time with debian-cd first however.
[12:21] <jussi01> ScottK: you are a super star!
[12:21]  * jussi01 thinks he will install in a VM
[12:22] <freeflying> ScottK: yes, you're right
[12:23] <freinhard> wasn't there a discussion about that down arrow in kpackagekit here yesterday?
[12:23] <ScottK> Initially it won't be a lot different than regular Kubuntu.  Due to the inherent scalability of KDE4 size wise there is a lot we can do just with default settings changes.
[12:26] <ScottK> If someone would like a useful project, we need a MIR done for arora.  If someone wanted to draft something up, I'd be glad to review it.
[12:27] <freinhard> Quintasan: saw you commited to update-notifier-kde, maybe you'd like to review my branch.
[12:28] <Quintasan> freinhard: I'm not a coder but I can look what you changed :P
[12:28] <Quintasan> freinhard: did you test it?
[12:29] <freeflying> ScottK: wanna use arora replace konqueror?
[12:29] <freinhard> Quintasan: sure
[12:29] <freinhard> Quintasan: testcase: systemsettings>desktopsearch
[12:29] <ScottK> freeflying: We are considering it for both regular Kubuntu and the netbook edition.
[12:30] <ScottK> Upstream has some work to do to get there, but it seems reasonably doable.
[12:30] <freinhard> Quintasan: you get the notification to install some package, installation fails due to lack of internet connection, button is gone, confuses most people.
[12:33] <freinhard> Quintasan: needs kdesudo from trunk. current release doesn't return exitcodes.
[12:40] <Quintasan> freinhard: I proposed a merge, code looks fine for me (at lest it makes sense :D). I requested a merge -> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/update-notifier-kde/trunk/+merges
[12:42] <Quintasan> freinhard: also didn't someone gave you access to the trunk?
[12:42] <freinhard> Quintasan: kdesudo not update-m-k
[12:42] <Quintasan> argh
[12:43] <freinhard> Quintasan: maybe there is one issue: for the uncommon case you really don't want to install the proposed packages you've got no chance to get rid of the icon in the systray except for restarting u-m-k or logout/in
[12:44] <Quintasan> ok, looks fine, I have to go now, please request a merge to kdesudo on LP or pokestorm Riddell
[12:45] <freinhard> Quintasan: k, we'll see what happens ;)
[13:00] <hsitter> Quintasan: ping
[13:04] <Tm_T> ScottK: you have tried plasma-mid yet?
[13:05] <ScottK> Tm_T: I have not.  I have a netbook on order.  Once I get that, I'll start fiddling with it.
[13:05] <ScottK> Tm_T: My main focus at the moment is on the bits of plumbing needed to spawn a new *buntu flavor.
[13:05] <Tm_T> ScottK: you can run it everywhere (;)
[13:05] <Tm_T> roger
[13:05] <ScottK> Tm_T: I can, but I've got limited time and I'm trying to focus.
[13:07] <Tm_T> aye, know the thing
[13:08] <freinhard> is there a list of keywords launchpad automatically converts into links? like "bug <bugno>"
[13:23] <Tm_T> !me
[13:23] <Tm_T> freinhard: see above, maybe have the needed information
[13:33] <JontheEchidna> Anyboyd see bug 392469?
[13:37] <EvilRoey> hey all thanks for that tutorial session this Monday
[13:37] <hsitter> JontheEchidna, ScottK: kubuntu-meta aint got no bzr branch?
[13:37] <JontheEchidna> hsitter: it's project name is something weird
[13:38] <hsitter> must have been set by ubuntu then :P
[13:38] <hsitter> also, it is not refernced in the control file
[13:38] <hsitter> PITA!
[13:38] <JontheEchidna> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/
[13:38] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: seed != meta
[13:38] <JontheEchidna> Firefox's awesome bar ftw
[13:39] <hsitter> seed == cd seeds
[13:39] <hsitter> meta == meta packages
[13:39] <hsitter> so I assume we aint got no branch after all
[13:39] <JontheEchidna> the meta package gets generated from the seeds
[13:39] <hsitter> it is?
[13:40] <JontheEchidna> think so, or at least when I first tried to patch kubuntu-meta I was told that you couldn't edit the package directly
[13:40]  * hsitter only hacked the seeds once in his entire time with kubuntu
[13:41] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: in that case I would say the packaging is broken since it doesn't say so anywhere
[13:42] <JontheEchidna> maybe ScottK knows for sure?
[13:42]  * hsitter checks seeds branch
[13:42] <hsitter> all  the time I have worked on Kubuntu I only changed the seeds once I think :D
[13:43] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: no, meta is independent from the seeds
[13:44]  * hsitter notes that the netbook seed list is a monster considering it's target platform :P
[13:44] <JontheEchidna> people upgrading from jaunty + amarok 2.1 ppa are running into bug 391526
[13:45]  * hsitter loves when people don't provide enough information to make them get karma for a package fix :S
[13:47] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: wrong package
[13:48] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: should be libqtscript or whatever the source is called
[13:48] <hsitter> and each of those 3 billion binary packages needs to conflict the appropriate ones from the ppa
[13:48] <hsitter> which is one of the reasons I did not split that small in the ppa
[13:49] <hsitter> but hey, what is maintainablility ;-)
[13:49] <hsitter> W: kubuntu-desktop: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file
[13:49]  * hsitter giggles
[13:53] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: btw, what should I be talking about in my ruby talk? :P
[13:54]  * hsitter is so incredibly unsure it's not even funny
[13:54] <JontheEchidna> you're the one that knows ruby :P
[13:55]  * hsitter is also the one that only can do talks fitted for an audience that at least speaks 2 other programming languages or knows a fair deal about software development :P
[13:56] <JontheEchidna> Nightrose: really? We hav to wait until Kubuntu 9.10 to get any fixes for amarok?
[13:56] <JontheEchidna> like, for serious?
[13:56] <hsitter> what is broken?
[13:57] <JontheEchidna> uft-8 chars
[13:57] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: btw, nick!
[13:57] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: do we have a bug report about that?
[13:57] <JontheEchidna> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178278
[13:57] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: yea encoding and stuff is serious breakage potential
[13:57] <Nightrose> no way we are going to backport the encoding fixes anyway
[13:58]  * JontheEchidna wonders what the point of reporting bugs is if they'll never get fixed for 6 months
[13:58] <Nightrose> and honestly there were no really backportable fixes as far sas i can tell so far in 2.2
[13:58] <hsitter> well
[13:58] <hsitter> you know
[13:58] <Nightrose> ? they are fixed for 2.2
[13:58] <hsitter> I pointed out that issues back when I was working over at amarok's
[13:59] <hsitter> so that issues is older than 6 months
[13:59] <hsitter> didn't work in all of 1.4 IIRC
[14:00] <Nightrose> possibly
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> bug 320305 was reported 6 months ago, now we're going to tell them that they have to wait 2 more kubuntu releases for a fix :/
[14:01] <hsitter> while we are at it, who broke amaork-nightly?
[14:01] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: it is not really a major issue
[14:02] <hsitter> a usability drag maybe
[14:02]  * Nightrose thinks so as well
[14:02]  * hsitter thinks he only noticed for the example stated in the bug report
[14:02] <JontheEchidna> I just don't see the point in triaging any bugs for amarok then, if they just might maybe be fixed in 6 months anyways
[14:03] <Nightrose> that is not really logical
[14:03] <Nightrose> and it costs me a lot of time to branch and tag and release
[14:03] <Nightrose> sorry but i don't have that atm
[14:03] <hsitter>   Could NOT find required package LibLastFm
[14:03] <Nightrose> not if not absolutely necessary
[14:03] <hsitter> Nightrose: I though you made that optional?
[14:03] <Nightrose> hsitter: still being discussed
[14:03] <hsitter> Nightrose: btw, if paleo stops by... kollide's clock is off again
[14:03] <Nightrose> k
[14:04] <hsitter> Nightrose: I would recommend that he sets up a cron to ntpdate every day or so ;-)
[14:04] <Nightrose> hehe
[14:04] <hsitter> seriously, the neon logs always double in size when the clock goes off too far and tar starts complaining
[14:05] <hsitter> markey: ping
[14:05] <hsitter> Nightrose: what do you think should I be talking about in my ruby talk?
[14:06] <Nightrose> hsitter: no idea ;-)
[14:06] <Nightrose> meeting now
[14:06] <Nightrose> laters
[14:07] <hsitter> oh dear, debian policy is at 3.8.2 already -.-
[14:07] <ka> hsitter: I think how to make plasmoids out with ruby would be cool
[14:08] <hsitter> ka: the thing is... 90% of the work with plasmoids is completely boring non-gui stuff :D
[14:09] <hsitter> maybe I should explain how to create a lib, that way one can put an app or a plasmoid on top of that :D
[14:09] <ka> Yeah thats cool.
[14:10] <ka> I am all for flashy gui talks. Hit them with the non gui stuff after they are hooked...
[14:12] <ryanakca> hsitter: What's required to get device support working in Amarok2? Googling shows a post from late 2008 (iirc) that says it works in the Amarok SVN, but something is happening on the Kubuntu side for it not to happen, and it was a known issue? Or was the guy off his rocker?
[14:13]  * JontheEchidna added a few songs to his iPod yesterday using amarok
[14:14] <ka> Can I add songs to the iphone via amarok?
[14:15] <ka> Or does it only work with ipods up to ipod touch?
[14:15] <ryanakca> Hmmm... *upgrades*
[14:15] <hsitter> ryanakca: libgpod
[14:16] <hsitter> the -nogtk thingy doesn't work anymore I ahve been told
[14:16] <hsitter> ka: should work with iphone too
[14:16] <hsitter> also you should be able to transfer pictures and videos
[14:16] <hsitter> not sure about the latter though
[14:17] <ryanakca> hsitter: I think so too, I remember reading on the wiki that there wasn't a gui for it or an explicit way, but if you dragged and dropped a video to the transfer cue, it would get transfered... Something of the sort :)
[14:17] <JontheEchidna> we build our current karmic packages with -nogtk at least
[14:17] <JontheEchidna> jaunty ones too, I think
[14:17] <hsitter> ryanakca: gtkpod being the gui :P
[14:18] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: better talk to upstream
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> I'm just saying it works here :P
[14:18] <hsitter> I think neversfelde talked to sebr some time ago and he claimed amarok 2.1 will only work with gdk stuff
[14:18] <hsitter> JontheEchidna: *shrug* maybe they fixed their stuff :P
[14:19] <hsitter> ryanakca: why is kobby not using pkg-kde-tools?
[14:19] <ka> hsitter: Really ? Sweet.
[14:19] <hsitter> ka: the video and picture stuff requires libgpod without the -nogtk though
[14:19] <ryanakca> hsitter: *shrug*, I'll add it in
[14:19] <hsitter> gdk is required for any kind of image transfer AFAIK
[14:19] <hsitter> ryanakca: replace cmake with it
[14:19] <hsitter> and remember to use kde.mk
[14:21] <ryanakca> hsitter: installed to where? /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde.mk ?
[14:22] <hsitter> /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/cdbs/kde.mk
[14:23] <freinhard> dtchen: http://gitorious.org/ubuntu/linux-firmware-karmic/commit/fd5f7f24822593743dd5f62a22b8b4d2c3f9cd7f
[14:23] <hsitter> oh dear
[14:24] <hsitter> kalternatives needs a fixed desktop file to ensure it is rooted
[14:31] <neversfelde> hsitter: that was only about cover support for ipods
[14:31] <neversfelde> all other things should work
[14:31] <hsitter> I see
[14:35] <hsitter> hm, the rootonly key is there
[14:35] <hsitter> but commented out
[14:35] <stevie> ramalamdingdong
[14:36] <stevie> neversfelde: did you get my private message?
[14:36] <neversfelde> in this moment
[14:36] <stevie> better late than never i guess?
[14:36] <stevie> :P
[14:36] <neversfelde> hehe
[14:41] <hsitter> svn 987617
[14:41]  * hsitter hits the shower
[14:43] <Mamarok> hsitter: I need a new package for Gibson-dw
[14:50] <freinhard> dtchen: changelog update http://gitorious.org/ubuntu/linux-firmware-karmic/commit/aa4d792e208dba839b90044a50165aa4187f7f01
[14:55] <hsitter> Mamarok: just send me the URL by mail, I am heading out right now, I'll try to get to it later today
[14:57] <stevie> hsitter: do not go outside today!
[14:59] <Mamarok> hsitter: ok, will do as soon as I have the tarball :)
[15:21] <ScottK> hsitter: Thanks for fixing kubuntu-meta.  My bad on that one.
[15:23] <ScottK> hsitter: For -meta there isn't a lot of point in a bzr branch since virtually the entire package gets regenerated from seeds.  One only needs to fiddle with rules like I messed up on the rare ocassion of making a new flavor.  Even a new architecture is just a config file change.
[15:26] <ScottK> So who's doing Qt 4.5.2?
[15:26] <vorian> do we need that done prior to the 4.3RC ?
[15:30] <ScottK> vorian: Need, no, but sooner the better.
[15:31] <vorian> ok
[15:31]  * vorian finds out what's on the agenda for today
[15:31] <vorian> if we aint got nothing planned, i'll work on it ScottK
[15:32] <ScottK> Cool.  I know I don't have time and Riddell's probably busy doing whatever he's doing this week.
[15:38] <vorian> aieght
[16:11] <ScottK> rgreening: You have an action from the release team meeting: [ACTION] rgreening to document kubuntu-netbook install process for ISO tracker test cases
[16:15] <aplg> lol
[16:18] <ScottK> Does anyone know if the fix for Bug 339313 is in the pending NM widget SRU?
[16:21] <vorian> ScottK: last i knew was a|wen was championing that fix and has since gone awol
[16:22] <ScottK> vorian: Does that mean it's not in the SRU?
[16:22] <vorian> i don't know
[16:24] <ScottK> Grumble.
[16:27] <ScottK> Is anyone working on the 'Social from the start' spec?
[16:59]  * ScottK looks at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-karmic-usb-creator-for-windows/ and wonders how we get a piece of that.
[17:02] <pkt> what is the deal with konq-plugins package?
[17:03] <pkt> the konq-plugins source package produces both konq-plugins and a number of standalone plugins
[17:03] <pkt> now e.g., konq-plugins and konqueror-plugin-searchbar conflict with eachother
[17:03] <ScottK> pkt: JontheEchidna is the one who likely know.
[17:04] <pkt> the problem is that the conflicting packages are both parts of the kubuntu-desktop task
[17:04] <pkt> so tasksel --install kubuntu-desktop dies
[17:04] <pkt> sorry tasksel install kubuntu-desktop
[17:05] <pkt> JontheEchidna?
[17:06] <pkt> I 'm happy to write the patch to fix the problem if I can understand exactly what is happening
[17:07] <ScottK> IIRC he did the current package structure for them, so we should wait for him to be available to chat about it.
[17:08] <pkt> thanks, I 'll wait and in the meantime look into the problem myself
[17:09] <rgreening> ScottK: usb-creator packaging almost done. It now mostly works. I will need some help with packaging questions and translation po/* files (do they need to be instaslled or simply removed after build but before packaging?
[17:10] <xtremek> Hello everyone
[17:10] <ScottK> rgreening: Your package should just do normal stuff with the po files and let the LP magic strip them for the language packs when we get it in Main
[17:10] <rgreening> ScottK: oh, and I have a local deb that installs fine. Making test usb stick as we speak. When will actual netbook image be ready?
[17:11] <ScottK> rgreening: Depens on how long it takes to get my debian-cd branch reviewed.
[17:11] <rgreening> ScottK: what's normal?
[17:11] <ScottK> Soon.
[17:11] <ScottK> rgreening: You seem to think I know something about translations.
[17:11]  * ScottK wonders why that is?
[17:11] <rgreening> cool. ISO for netbook needs to be actual ISO size for CD or an img file.
[17:12] <rgreening> lol
[17:12]  * rgreening doesn't either. I speek onlee da englush
[17:19] <ScottK> rgreening: ISO works from dvd, so actual can be large (as I understand it)
[17:19]  * ScottK looks at hsitter for some PO file foo for rgreening.
[17:21] <rgreening> ScottK: another question, I need to rename usb-creator (old version) to usb-creator-gtk and conflict/replace it... whats the best way to ensure use upgrades successfully from usb-creator to usb-creator-gtk?
[17:21] <rgreening> s/use/user/
[17:22] <ScottK> Transitional package of usb-creator that depends on usb-creator-gtk.
[17:26] <JontheEchidna> pkt: this is karmic?
[17:26] <rgreening> ScottK: ok, so rename usb-creator to usb-creator-gtk and add a new entry for usb-creator with depend usb-creator-gtk
[17:26] <rgreening> no need to conflict/replace?
[17:27] <pkt> JontheEchidna: yes
[17:27] <JontheEchidna> pkt: the separate packages are empty transitional packages
[17:28] <pkt> the problem is that they both conflict and are part of the same task
[17:28] <JontheEchidna> oops
[17:28] <pkt> removing konqueror-plugin-searchbar from the kubuntu-desktop task would probably solve the problem
[17:29] <JontheEchidna> those shouldn't conflict, the replace + binary transitional package should be enough
[17:29] <JontheEchidna> though they would need to be removed from the task
[17:30] <pkt> how can they be removed from the task?
[17:30] <JontheEchidna> er, the kubuntu-desktop meta package
[17:30] <pkt> no it is the task that is the problem
[17:30] <pkt> in Packages.gz they have a Tasks: kubuntu-desktop field
[17:31] <pkt> I removed them from the metapackages
[17:31] <pkt> what I can not figure out is how is this Task: field generated
[17:31] <pkt> it is not in the DEBIAN/control file in the binaries
[17:33] <pkt> tasksel has way too much black magic :)
[17:34] <pkt> JontheEchidna: I see how it works now
[17:35] <pkt> it is the override file in the mirror (!)
[17:35] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: Could you sponsor this for me please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/204381/
[17:36] <pkt> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/indices/override.karmic.extra.main
[17:37] <pkt> now things start to make sense :)
[17:39] <pkt> so in the meantime I 'll just put the fixed konq-plugins package in my ppa and be done with it, thanks JontheEchidna :)
[17:40] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome, thanks for spotting the error
[17:40] <pkt> no problem
[17:54] <ryanakca> Can someone sponsor kobby please? http://revu.tauware.de/p/kobby
[17:59] <nhandler> ryanakca: Care to make the change to the description?
[18:00] <nhandler> Ah, I missed the last upload ;)
[18:06] <Quintasan> hsitter: pong
[18:08] <Quintasan> vorian: ping
[18:08] <ryanakca> nhandler: Should be the one from 19:00
[18:09] <nhandler> ryanakca: I'm looking it over now. I see one small grammatical thing still in the description, but if that is all, I'll advocate with a comment. It can be fixed on upload
[18:11] <ryanakca> nhandler: *nod*, thanks
[18:12] <pkt> JontheEchidna: ping
[18:13] <pkt> I was playing some table tennis and it came to me that perhaps the fix that removes the Conflicts: is wrong
[18:13] <pkt> the correct fix is imho to just remove the individual plugins from the task
[18:14] <pkt> the Conflicts: is required so that nobody attempts to install konq-plugins and the individual ones in the same "session"
[18:15] <pkt> Replaces: takes care of the upgrade case
[18:16] <nhandler> ryanakca: Also, are you sure that the next release for kobby (and future ones after that) will work properly with the watch file? Otherwise, you can mangle the version
[18:16] <ryanakca> nhandler: I'm not sure as to how to mangle the version...
[18:27] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[19:07] <rgreening> ScottK-desktop: who wants usb-creator-kde :)
[19:07] <rgreening> almost ready to upload a package to my PPA for testing/debugging
[19:29] <e-jat> rgreening: feel free to upload :)
[19:31] <rgreening> lol
[19:31] <rgreening> soon... soon...
[19:36] <Quintasan> FFFFFUUUU- stupid wireless router
[20:25] <rgreening> uploaded usb-creator-0.2.0~beta1 lp:~roderick-greening (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/roderick-greening/ppa/ubuntu karmic main)
[20:26] <rgreening> ScottK-desktop: ^
[20:26] <rgreening> still has some glaring bugs... but essentially works.
[20:26] <rgreening> assuming it builds...
[20:32]  * ScottK looks
[20:37] <Quintasan> hsitter: pongstorm
[21:22] <ScottK> rgreening: Did you make sure usb-creator-gtk still works too?
[21:23] <rgreening> of course
[21:23] <ScottK> rgreening: I'd say ship it then.
[21:23] <rgreening> ScottK: this is the official source tree
[21:23] <rgreening> :)
[21:23] <rgreening> I just haven't pushed yet. Almost ready to push to bzr
[21:24] <rgreening> I want to get sign-off from evand to publish a version first (though I do not expect any issue seeing as the packaging never worked until I fixed it).
[21:24] <rgreening> ScottK: ^
[21:24]  * rgreening is proud of what I have done :)
[21:25] <ScottK> rgreening: I agree with checking with evand.
[21:25] <rgreening> At any rate, you can at least test from my PPA for now.
[21:25]  * ScottK high fives rgreening and then very quietly mentions he forgot to bring the jacket along today so it didn't get mailed.
[21:26] <rgreening> ScottK: and beta2 will be uploaded in a minue. I make a KDE Icon instead of using the GTK one.
[21:26] <rgreening> hehe
[21:26] <rgreening> *slap*
[21:26] <rgreening> for the hi-5
[21:26] <rgreening> honest
[21:26] <ScottK> rgreening: Great.  The one concern I had when I looked at it was the .png icon.  I think we need a .svg.
[21:26] <rgreening> :P
[21:27] <rgreening> dunno how that translates into PyKDE Icon loading...
[21:27] <rgreening> Riddell: ^
[21:27] <rgreening> thoughts?
[21:27]  * ScottK bets hsitter knows.
[21:27] <rgreening> mebee
[21:27] <rgreening> for now.. works.
[21:29] <rgreening> I managed to stay away from packaging KDE, so I actually got this done :)
[21:29] <rgreening> YAY
[21:29]  * rgreening does the hustle
[21:29]  * JontheEchidna managed to get a sinus infection from his dad
[21:30] <rgreening> ouch
[21:30] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: You gotta stop sharing snot.
[21:35] <rgreening> snot gonna do-it
[21:35] <rgreening> wouldnt be prudent
[21:38] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: That is unfortunate.  I know those are unpleasant.   I hope you feel better soon.
[21:39] <JontheEchidna> thx
[21:47] <rgreening> ScottK: kwwii is making me an icon
[21:47] <ScottK> rgreening: Cool.
[22:31] <tsdgeos> hiya guys
[22:31] <tsdgeos> shouldn't the system-config-printer-kde contain something useful? here it just contains the copyright stuff and a .desktop file that points to a non existant binary
[22:42] <_Groo_> is anyone building 4.3 beta 3 yet?
[22:42] <Mamarok> _Groo_: you mean RC?
[22:42] <Mamarok> aka 3.2.95
[22:43] <_Groo_> Mamarok: yes, sorry, rc
[22:43] <_Groo_> Mamarok: just checked kubuntu-ppa experimental, no trace yet :(
[22:45] <Mamarok> well, I hope somebody will build it, but maybe everybody is waiting for final, as it's due on July 13th
[22:47] <smarter_> Mamarok: it's being packaged by the ninjas ;)
[22:48] <smarter_> but won't be released until RC1 is officialy released
[22:48] <smarter_> (at least)
[22:49] <Mamarok> smarter_: nice :)
[22:51]  * Quintasan can't catch hsitter or vorian :<
[22:58] <smarter_> Quintasan: you can't catch ninjas, they move to fast.
[22:59] <lex79> yeah
[23:04] <Quintasan> smarter_: nah, it's just they ping me at wrong times :P
[23:45] <ScottK> Bug 387041