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DragnslcrGnuSeb- no idea what the point of the first 3/4 of your sentence is, but the first thing I would look at for converting audio formats is mencoder00:02
Dragnslcr!info mencoder | GnuSeb00:02
ubottuGnuSeb: mencoder (source: mplayer): MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu19 (jaunty), package size 3682 kB, installed size 8540 kB00:02
GnuSebsudo apt-get isntall mencoder?00:02
GnuSebinstall*00:03
rythanIs there a fix for Kopete's Yahoo plugin for v0.70.2?00:18
gunslinger_i can't use my yahoo00:20
gunslinger_please00:20
gunslinger_help00:20
dev_null_is there a cli command to reset the dns cache for kubuntu00:20
gunslinger_me00:20
FloodBotK1gunslinger_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:20
rythanYou are not the only one00:20
bazhang!yahoo00:21
ubottuAt the moment there are many pidgin users experiencing problems connecting to Yahoo IM, you can try changing your paging server to cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com and see if that helps.00:21
gunslinger_ok00:21
rythanbazhang I heard that no longer worked00:21
bazhangrythan, check topic in #pidgin00:21
rythanI use kopete00:22
Dragnslcrrythan- a fix got committed today. I already added a comment to the Ubuntu bug report about it, so hopefully a new package will get pushed through quickly00:24
rythanHope so :) cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com is activing refusing connections00:25
DragnslcrYeah, I think the last few servers got "upgraded" a couple days ago00:25
rythanDragnslcr: Ah makes sense00:26
rythanSo Michael Jackson is dead00:26
bazhang!ot00:27
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!00:27
rythanGreat topic police00:27
rythansad00:27
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bobitoHey, I recently installed IPBlock on my computer, only to find that my comp is trying to access Tons of arbitrary IPs, ranging from universities to Paypal.  Is there any reason kubuntu does this, or at least a way I can figure out what process is trying to contact which ip?00:33
Matisse!mp300:35
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:36
bobitocan anybody hear me?00:36
kaddibobito: try netstat -p in your konsole, it'll show all open connections with the program that has established the connection00:36
robinrbobito: what protocols?00:36
Matissebobito, no00:36
sp0ckkIs there a kwin dev package?00:36
bazhangbobito, using kubuntu or ubuntu00:36
bobitoI've got both installed, right now I'm running via the gnome gui00:37
bazhangyour question was answered in #ubuntu00:37
bobitobazhang: yea, at the same time too : )00:38
kaddiwhat was the answer? *curious*00:38
bazhangsame as yours kaddi00:38
kaddibazhang: thanks :) thought there might be a better solution. ;)00:39
bobitoNot to be a nag, but netstat -p gives me a list of pid and file names longer than will list on the screen, and no ips listed00:42
bobitoI don't really know what to do with that, and the man isn't helping yet00:43
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bobitooutput: http://pastebin.com/m340b7f000:44
kadditry 'netstat -p | grep "tcp"' to only list tcp connections or 'netstat -p|less' to view all entries (you can scroll down with enter)00:46
kaddior pipe netstat -p into a file and open it with your preferred editor :)00:46
kaddiis there a flag for netstat to only list tcp connections? or is this windows netstat?00:47
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bobitokaddi: thanks, that definately made it clearer00:49
kaddiif you only want tcp connections try netstat -p -t (for udp try -u)00:51
kaddi:)00:51
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sp0ckkHas anyone here successfully got Compiz-fusion + Emerald working at all?01:12
DragnslcrAs far as I know, Compiz doesn't get along very well with KDE401:14
DragnslcrSince KDE4 has its own compositing, it doesn't really need to01:14
sp0ckkDragnslcr, it can't handle Emerald themes though, and I have an emerald theme (that KDE4 doesn't have) that I want to use so I'd like to use Compiz/Emerald.01:17
estabanbanbanhola01:22
estabanbanbannecesito que me resolvais una pregunta de seguridad01:23
estabanbanbana ver01:23
estabanbanbanel modem-router que tengo me lo dejó un conocido01:23
estabanbanbanno me dijo nada de cambiar la clave del router01:23
estabanbanbany hoy he leído que con la clave de acceso interno al router y conociendo tu ip01:23
estabanbanbanpueden entrar en tu ordenador01:24
estabanbanbanes eso cierto?01:24
ign0ramus!es | estabanbanban01:25
ubottuestabanbanban: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:25
estabanbanbanok01:25
estabanbanbana few years ago, a "friend" of mine gave me one of his old modem-routers01:25
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estabanbanbanbut he never told me about changing the password connecting to the router01:26
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estabanbanbanI've read that with this password and your ip address a person may access your computer01:26
estabanbanbanis it true?01:26
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Eternal_Sinhi everyone01:31
kaddihi :)01:31
Eternal_SinI didn't know that kubuntu had a channel :\01:32
Eternal_SinWell, I finally found it xD01:32
kaddiit has :) this is the offical english support channel. there are a lot more in different languages as well :)01:32
Eternal_SinI used to have debian in this machine, but I wanted KDE4.2. I used Lenny and the packages were from SID, so I crushed the system (twice xD) so I put kubuntu01:34
kaddihehe01:35
Eternal_SinIs not bad, my graphic card is old so I only have disabled some settings and now I'm happy ^^01:35
Eternal_SinWorks quite well and C::B let me do my C++ homework01:35
Eternal_Sinall is fine xD01:35
kaddianother happy user :D01:36
Eternal_Sinyeah01:36
Eternal_SinI used to have this version of kubuntu in my laptop, I'm gonna put Windows 7 and Kubuntu and erase Vista for ever01:37
joshua__Oh my dear God, Michael Jackson died!01:50
bazhang!ot > joshua__01:50
ubottujoshua__, please see my private message01:50
joshua__ubottu: you don't care? how insensitive!01:50
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:50
bazhangjoshua__, please take chit chat elsewhere01:51
joshua__This is not just idle chit chat, this is the freakin king of pop!01:52
joshua__see everyone is in shock!01:55
kaddihow can i uninstall an old kernel? or is this something you just "don't do"?01:55
Dragnslcrjoshua__- no, we just don't really care01:55
Dragnslcrkaddi- you can uninstall the packages01:55
bazhangkaddi, from the package manager if you wish, might want to keep at least one around though01:55
kaddiah, yes thats pretty straight forward01:55
DragnslcrShould be something like linux-image-x.x.x.x01:55
kaddilol01:55
joshua__what? how can you not care?01:56
bazhangjoshua__, please stop01:56
DragnslcrYeah, I'd keep one or two extras, just in case, but if you have 12 installed, you can remove a few01:56
kaddiyeah, I intend keeping the 2 previous ones.. :)01:56
joshua__what are you going to do bazhang kick me?01:57
DragnslcrI still haven't rebooted for the kernel update I installed last week01:57
joshua__do it and the legions of MJ fans will destroy you for the disrespect01:57
Eternal_SinxD01:57
Dragnslcrjoshua__- if necessary, yes, and the ops are never in a good mood when they get called in for something stupid01:57
joshua__I hardley call MJ's death "something stupid"01:58
DragnslcrThe rest of us do01:58
DragnslcrIt has nothing to do with Kubuntu01:58
Eternal_SinDiary, thousand people die in worse conditions, what about them?01:58
tsimpsonlet's move away from this subject01:59
joshua__Eternal_Sin: what about them? they are not MJ01:59
Eternal_Sinall people ar equal at the eyes of God01:59
tsimpsonstop the discussion now02:00
Eternal_Sinyes sir u.u02:00
joshua__you guys are treading on my first amendment right to freedom of speech again...02:00
tsimpsongood job this is not the US02:01
Eternal_Sinthis is.... SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!02:01
DragnslcrSo, about those kernels02:01
tsimpsonjoshua__: you have been warned, now behave02:02
DragnslcrI think I'll be lazy and not reboot for the new kernel until I install the KDE 4.3 RC next week02:02
joshua__aye aye02:02
Eternal_SinI prefer wait to the final release02:02
joshua__I have to go anyways02:03
joshua__RIP MJ!02:03
tsimpsonyeah, you must go02:04
* ign0ramus hands tsimpson another cup of coffee02:04
DragnslcrThe 4.3 RC should be the same as the final release anyway02:04
ign0ramusDragnslcr, ideally, that's how it works02:04
DragnslcrAssuming there isn't a uh-oh-something-blew-up bug02:05
ign0ramusDragnslcr, is there a date for the RC?02:06
dio_hello0 everyone02:06
ign0ramus!hi | dio_02:06
ubottudio_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!02:06
Eternal_Sin!hi | dio_02:06
DragnslcrWas supposed to be tagged this week and released next week. I'd think Kubuntu packages should be ready Thursday or so02:06
Eternal_Sinwhy doesn't works for me? xD02:06
dio_i just dicover the chat aftre 8 mont runnig linux02:06
tsimpsonhttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule02:06
ign0ramusEternal_Sin, there's a time limit when invoking the same factoid from ubotu02:06
ign0ramusthanks tsimpson02:07
Eternal_Sinwell...cr*p02:07
Eternal_SinI always do everything wrong xD02:07
dio_any help about rip dvd02:07
ign0ramus!rip | dio_02:07
ubottudio_: To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh02:07
ign0ramuswell that didn't help :/02:08
tsimpson!k9copy02:08
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:08
tsimpsonwell k9copy is what you want02:08
tsimpson!info k9copy02:08
ubottuk9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.3.0-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 1555 kB, installed size 3364 kB02:08
dio_i use genome02:08
dio_ok02:09
bazhangogmrip perhaps then02:09
dio_got it02:09
ign0ramushey BluesKaj02:09
dio_i love linux02:09
BluesKajhi ign0ramus , what's up ?02:09
ign0ramusBluesKaj, nothing much... i have fixed almost all my complaints in kubuntu, and now i'm kind of bored ;)02:10
BluesKajmy fstab & mtab are buggered02:10
BluesKajno ntfs access02:10
ign0ramusBluesKaj, those are 'fun' projects :)02:10
Eternal_Sinand what about code::blocks? C::B rules!02:11
ign0ramusBluesKaj, gotta run. see you soon!02:11
BluesKajok ign0ramus , take care02:11
dio_any one from illinois02:12
bazhangdio_, check the loco list02:13
dio_loc?02:13
bazhang!loco | dio_02:13
ubottudio_: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams02:13
dio_thanks02:13
bazhangdio_, there is one for Chicago to be sure02:13
davidjheinrichhow can I tile windows in KDE?02:14
dio_thanks ubotti02:17
panos4everto tile windows in kde go to:http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91602:18
panos4everthis will help02:18
BluesKajno windows access in Dolphin : an error occurred while accessing 'Volume (ntfs)', the system responded: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.PermissionDenied:Device /dev/sda1 is listed in /etc/fstab.Refusing to mount02:20
judithanyone got the wifi configured on the LG X110 notebook? I am having lots of trouble.02:21
davidjheinrichthanks panos4ever02:22
panos4evernp :)02:22
davidjheinrichah, I use radeonhd open source drivers, so no Xgl/compiz for me...and also, I want to tile hem not just for looking at hem, but operations too02:23
panos4everblueskaj do u have windows too???02:23
dio_i have problem whit evolution02:23
BluesKajyes , on different partition02:23
panos4everaha02:24
dio_i can get emails02:24
panos4evermount your sda1 with windows02:24
panos4everthen restart your pc and mount it with linux02:24
BluesKajwindows 7 doesn't have an app that gives linux access02:25
panos4everor u can edit the /etc/fstab02:25
panos4everu didnt get it02:25
panos4evermount with windows02:25
panos4everand then02:25
panos4everboot linux again and you are ready02:26
BluesKajpanos4ever, i have edited fstab and mtab , but theres' an error for some reason02:26
dio_goto virtual box.com ucan run windows whatever version under linux02:27
BluesKajhow do you mount linux with windows 702:27
panos4everyes u can do that too02:27
liam_Whats the package for Java?02:27
panos4evergo to synaptic02:27
liam_The what now02:27
BluesKajno VBs for me , I had perfectly good ntfs access in dolphin until the last kernel upgrade02:28
panos4eversearch for java02:28
liam_yea it doesn't detect it panos4ever, i need exact package name02:28
dio_virtualbox create vitual secon computer you can turn it on and off like regular window02:28
panos4evergoole it02:28
panos4evergoogle it02:28
panos4evertype:java debian package02:29
BluesKajdio, I'm not going to do any virtual OS , ok so stop suggesting it ...I need to fix fstab and matab02:29
liam_hold on i think i might have found it02:29
dio_brb02:30
liam_I installed a package called 'Java-package'02:30
panos4everhmm02:30
panos4everare you new to linux liam?02:31
liam_Ok, spendid. Gone from having a screen which says Java not detected to having a black screen02:31
liam_Not new, but very rusty02:31
panos4everw802:31
kaddiliam_: try apt-cache search java in a shell. It'll give you the package name and a short description of what the package does. I think you are looking for sun-java6-bin or similar02:32
liam_Alrite02:32
panos4everyes02:32
panos4evernice kaddi02:33
panos4everits like u said02:33
panos4everthis exact package02:33
liam_alrite got a few results going to give installing a couple a try02:33
liam_sun-java6-plugin <-- this one02:33
dhqi have a dell xps m1530, which has a built-in sound card ie;  in windows when i plug in the rear speakers in the mic port i have the option to choose rear speaker, how do i do this on kubuntu jaunty02:35
liam_Hm i got the t&c up02:35
liam_for java02:35
liam_but idk how to accept it02:35
liam_L02:35
FloodBotK1liam_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.02:35
kaddiliam_: what do you mean? the terms of use?02:37
liam_yea, screw it i'll start the installation again, don't think it  appreciated me scrolling pu.02:37
kaddihehe, ok02:38
dhqdid anyone answer my question02:38
liam_kaddi: wow rage, now it says directory is possibly in use02:39
liam_fml02:39
liam_ill just restart L02:40
kaddigood luck.. I can't really help you with that, sry02:41
kaddiis there a irc-app that combines the tab-function of konversation with "the possibility to split join/leave messages" of quassel?02:45
liam_kaddi: There's something with with dpkg02:46
liam_Which seems to be the problem02:46
kaddidpkg?02:46
liam_yes02:46
kaddidid you try to install som package separately?02:46
liam_som?02:46
kaddiwhat is the exact message?02:46
kaddi*some02:46
liam_Well it's in italian, i shall attempt to translate02:47
liam_E: Dpkg is interrupted, to correct the problem you need to run sudo dpkg - - configure -a02:47
kaddiliam_: dpkg is the debian package manager. If it is asking for dpkg --configure this usually means that some installation wasn't completed the last time and dpkg is trying to finish this now. a stands for all unconfigured packages02:49
liam_thats it02:50
liam_because i exited out of the java installation02:50
liam_when t&c screwed up02:50
liam_So what happens next?02:50
kadditry running sudo dpkg --configure -a02:51
kaddiI would think :)02:51
liam_well it did something lol02:51
kaddihehe02:51
kaddiit's trying to finish the installation02:52
liam_ok now it's giving me a load of bull.02:53
liam_It says it can't install anywhere02:53
liam_and to try apt-get -f install02:53
kaddi-f will force install02:53
tsimpsondo what it says ;)02:53
liam_but if i do that, it says it needs root, permission denied and it can't go into an administrative directory.02:54
tsimpsonuse sudo02:54
tsimpsonsudo apt-get -f install02:54
judithanyone got the wifi configured on the LG X110 notebook? I am having lots of trouble.02:54
liam_woo, it's trying to install it now :D02:54
liam_ok heres where it screwed me last time02:55
liam_the terms of use02:55
liam_how the hell do i get past this02:55
tsimpsonpress enter02:55
tsimpsontab to navigate, enter to "push" a button02:55
liam_i like your thinking!02:56
dio_get ubuntu unlished the big book cost $4902:56
liam_HAX i actually got past the terms of use!02:56
achillionhey guys. is anyone active?02:56
liam_ok, so that java almost done02:57
liam_now i've got a grey screen02:57
liam_although it says applet started02:57
liam_pretty sure a red x flashed for a second too02:57
sandy_I switched to Ubuntu 9.04 about a week ago.  The video quality (or speed) on youtube is substantially less than what I was used to in XP.  Any tips on improving this situation?02:58
sunnydrake_nb2sandy_: konquer + adobe flash works good02:58
dio_chnge your video cardsandy02:58
achillionhey guys. need some help figuring out something on KDE. glxinfo tells me "glx vendor string: SGI" - Hardware drivers manager screen confirms this by having ati driver "not in use" but under system settings it says i'm using Ati Radeon (fglrx). I was under the impression fglrx was the ATI propriatery driver. So which is it? (kubuntu 8.04 - kde 3.5)02:59
sunnydrake_nb2problem is in flash plugin itself imho..02:59
sandy_sunnydrake_nb2: what is konquer?  I will look for it in add software03:00
dio_kde 4.0 is bad try 3. someting else03:00
liam_http://pastebin.ca/1474965 - i get this upon my feeble attempt to load a java game, any suggestions?03:00
sunnydrake_nb2sandy_: konqueror default web browse for kde.03:00
liam_sunnydrake_nb2: any ideas?03:01
kaddisandy_: are you using an intel graphics card? there are known regressions in jaunty for those03:01
sandy_sunnydrake_nb2: thanx  I'll give it a try03:01
sandy_kaddi: not sure, this is a 5 year old dell dimension03:02
liam_kaddi: http://pastebin.ca/147496503:02
liam_:\03:02
sunnydrake_nb2liam_: not telling me a lot try official sun last java pacage fro their web site03:03
kaddiliam_ have you installed the other sun packages or only the plugin?03:03
liam_i can't use that for some reason, hence why i've been using sudo03:03
liam_only plugin03:03
dio_ati video card not running well under linux03:05
dio_get nvidia03:05
liam_rage.03:05
kaddiliam_: I think you need the other packages as well. I'm looking at my pc now, sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre are also installed along with the plugin package03:06
sandy_Konqueror.org ain't working...anybody have a trustworthy mirror?03:06
achillionany info on my question? just want to know why system settings says fglrx?03:06
kaddiliam_: but maybe someone knows better, I can only suggest what is insalled on my pc03:06
dio_i had rageon hdmi not working well,notw i have nvidia HDMI is works fine03:07
achillionsandy_: konqueror should already be installed with KDE if that's what you're trying to do03:07
kaddisandy_: konqueror is already installed on your system. open the startmenu go to programs ->internet-> you should see konqueror there03:07
liam_kaddi:  what do you have installed03:07
dio_sandy install opera03:07
kaddisun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin apparently03:08
sandy_I guess I don't have KDE installed03:08
sandy_dio_: do you have better luck with opera than firefox?03:08
dio_got to go bye03:09
achillionsandy_: you could give opera a try. nothing to lose if you don't mind trying a new browser. i find it to be lighter than firefox in general03:09
sandy_achillion: thx for the tip...couldn't hurt03:10
dio_yes  the opera run better in some web pages for java ,if you have pronblem to view java scrip under firefox even if you instll java install opera and run opera instead firefox03:10
sunnydrake_nb2dio_: btw where did you get linux build of opera?03:11
dio_opera is web browser03:11
achillionsunnydrake_nb2: http://www.opera.com/03:11
kaddiyou can add opera.com to your repositories, then you can install and update your opera through the package manager like all the other programs03:11
sunnydrake_nb2dia_: im a web dev opera is light but have some irritating page rendering issues03:12
tsimpson!opera03:12
ubottuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser03:12
liam_wow what idiot has an argument with his Linux and loses, i fail.03:12
dio_if you run kde4.0 you can have isues but not 3.503:12
sunnydrake_nb2achillion: direct link? i searched site alreade only .exe file...03:12
tsimpsonsunnydrake_nb2: if you're a web dev, you'll need to work around vendor issues03:13
dio_the best secure is run ubuntu 8.04 LTC03:13
tsimpsonsunnydrake_nb2: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser03:13
sunnydrake_nb2thnx03:13
tsimpsondio_: Kubuntu 8.04 is not LTS (no such thing as LTC)03:13
tsimpsonUbuntu (base) + Gnome 8.04 is LTS, but not the KDE components03:14
dio_read well UBUNTU not KUBUNTU03:14
tsimpsondio_: hi, welcome to #KUBUNTU03:14
sunnydrake_nb2tsimpson: that's what i do but i hate to make fixes for 8.01 diffrenet for 8.03 and etc.. and in the end a W3C spec doh...03:15
dio_ sorry i should not promote ubuntu here03:16
liam_Screw it, goodbye dignity, time to follow a spoon-fed guide.03:16
tsimpsonsunnydrake_nb2: I know, if vendors would stick to standards we'd save hours of work03:16
sunnydrake_nb2liam_: what's you problem?03:17
tsimpsonand if some standards were sane03:17
sunnydrake_nb2tsimpson: :)03:17
liam_sunnydrake_nb2: Java is grinding my gears03:17
liam_its now 4:20am my time and i've been trying to install it since 2 lol03:17
dio_brb got to reboot my labtop03:18
sea4everWhat command would make bzip2 recursive? ls -R | bzip2 ?03:18
sandy_Opera did not seem to fix it.  Same very jumpy picture when I view a youtube vid.03:18
liam_ok im totally out of ideas and tired and hungry L03:19
sea4everOh nevermind, probably something using for, I'll do it manually.03:19
tsimpsonsea4ever: bzip2 only handles one file03:19
dio_you tube video are FLV  you need to get flash player to view videos from you tube03:19
tsimpsonsea4ever: tar it, then bzip the tar03:20
sandy_I did get flash earlier for Firefox.  I would assume that the video wouldn't play at all if I didn't have Flash.03:20
dio_did you rboot your mashine03:21
dio_reboot03:21
sandy_no that could be it...of course!03:21
sandy_thanx, I'll do that and report back03:21
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liculanyone knows how to install package dependencies for offline installation?03:22
dio_no offline03:23
tsimpson!offline | licul03:24
ubottulicul: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD03:24
tsimpsonsee the link or !aptoncd if you want to use a cd03:25
liam_kaddi: it worked straightaway in firefox03:25
liam_dang konquerer sucks03:25
liam_now i can sleep03:28
xiscoHolaaaa03:28
kaddigood night then ;) and tomorrow you can figure out why konqueror won't do :D03:28
sotomayor_join#ubuntu03:30
dio_good night people i just learn Micheal Jakson died03:30
dio_otalk to you tomorow03:30
kaddigood night03:31
sandy_I rebooted the machine and I can watch most YouTube videos decently.  I think the test vid was just really high quality.03:33
sunnydrake_nb2sandy_: i dunno if it's a plugin problem but in fact flash on my machine works better in konqueror that in ff..03:36
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kaddimy audio just gave up again -.-03:42
licultsimpson: thanks.03:44
programbleso i hear your a bunch of MJ haters over here04:00
Dragnslcrtsimpson- got another one for you04:00
programbleRIP MJ04:00
Piciprogramble: This is a support channel, not a discussion channel.04:01
Pici!ot04:01
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:01
programbleKDE sucks too04:01
programbleRIP MJ!04:01
programbledont you people care about anything but your stupid ubuntu with the crap of KDE?04:02
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programbleand your not man enough to kick me?04:03
programbleyou "request" me to leave?04:03
programbleLOSER04:03
DragnslcrG'bye now04:03
programbleKDE SUCKS04:03
planeI cannot logon WWW.YOUTUBE.COM in china  ... who can tell me why?04:07
Piciplane: I believe that your country's firewall is blocking that.04:08
planei think i need a proxy04:08
i3earhello?04:11
Dragnslcr!hi | i3ear04:12
ubottui3ear: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:12
i3earI was just wondering04:13
i3earon your website04:13
planehi     i3ear04:13
i3earis there a way to earch for specific applications04:13
i3earbecause I be a linux noob04:13
i3earand a musician04:13
i3earand I was wondering exactly what alternatives there are to04:13
i3earthe windows programs I use04:13
Dragnslcrhttp://packages.ubuntu.com I think04:13
i3earlike synthesia04:13
tsimpson!alternatives04:14
ubottuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.04:14
DragnslcrYup, that's it04:14
tsimpsonnot that...04:14
tsimpson!Equivalents04:15
ubottuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant - Try also joining #ubuntu-bots and asking BestBot04:15
tsimpsonthere we go04:15
i3earHmmm04:16
i3earAm I righ to assume I sould probably make a fourm post or something? Because I do have questions04:17
i3earshould*04:17
DragnslcrYou can always ask questions here. It might take some time for someone to answer, though, depending on how easy the question is04:18
tsimpsonif you have support questions, you can ask here, or in a forum or on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu04:18
tsimpsonor on the mailing list04:18
i3earcool04:18
i3earwhell04:18
i3earI am a musician04:18
i3earSo04:18
i3earVSTs04:18
i3eargenerally work with linux? Are there stand alone hosts?04:19
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i3ear*sigh*04:26
i3earanyone have a link to the main audio editing program04:27
i3earfor04:27
i3earUbutnu?04:27
i3earlike the equivelent to sonar or something04:27
i3earanyone/04:27
BluesKajmain audio editing program ?  ... give us a hint at what you want to do04:29
i3earmake music04:29
i3earSomething like Sonar or Cubase or FL Studio04:29
i3earknow what I mean?04:30
i3earimagine GIMB but for sound04:30
i3earGIMP*04:30
kaddi_maybe audacity is what you look for?04:30
i3earI have audacity, it sucks04:30
i3earit isn't powerful enoubh04:31
i3earenough*04:31
i3earBut yeah something liek audacity, but04:31
i3earhmm04:31
i3eara good way to compare what I want is04:31
kaddi_have a look at these tools then: rosegarden or adour04:31
i3earwhell you probably know already04:32
kaddi_*ardour04:32
kaddi_na, not really.. lol I simply tried this site: http://www.osalt.com/cubase if it knows the program it lists alternatives to the given program04:32
i3earcool04:34
i3earhow hard is it to install something on Ubuntu?04:34
i3earThat is not on the large "install packages" list04:34
BluesKajyes , I've used cubase in windows some , I suggest you look at Ardour04:34
kaddi_i3ear: it should be easy, open your start menu, go to programs, go to system, then select add/remove. search for ardour. you should find it04:37
i3earNo I mean other programs04:38
i3earthat I will not find04:38
i3earon that list04:38
i3earlike04:38
FloodBotK1i3ear: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:38
i3earhttp://pianobooster.sourceforge.net04:38
kaddi_ah, it depends on the programs. some programs like opera or wine will offer a repository that you can add04:38
i3earWhell, I mean what if I have to compile software?04:39
kurosi3ear: that program doesn't need to be installed04:39
kurosbut generally it's ./configure then make then sudo make install04:39
kurosbut every source file will have a readme or install.txt04:40
i3earcool04:40
kurosthe worst part of installing from source is dependencies but it'll tell you what you're missing if you are missing a dependency04:40
i3earso, can I ask about torrent clients here, or is that frowned upon because it is linked to illegal things?04:41
kurostransmission and azureus are both in the repos04:41
kuros(for some reason we still package as azureus even though it's now "vuse")04:41
kaddi_what does vuse mean?04:42
i3earLast time I tried Ubntu I quit because I couldn't get any torrent programs to work04:42
kurosi use vuse all the time04:42
kurosno problems here :)04:42
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kaddioh, vuse is the new name of azureus?04:42
kurosi need a good dictionary plasmoid04:42
kuroskaddi: yes04:42
kaddilol, I thought it was some high end term for depreciated software or something :D04:43
kurosi think that term is "abandonware"04:43
kiritIt seems that Dolphin doesn't show previews for files over 5MB -- is there a setting somewhere for that?04:44
kaddiyes, and I saw it today, give me a minute04:44
kurosjust go to configure dolphin04:44
kurosit's under viewmodes-general04:45
kiritOk, that was kind of obvious once you see there's a configure menu option :)04:45
kiritI do have another question though -- before jaunty you could set the maximum size for the desktop xrandr could use in the xorg.conf, that seems to have moved with the new X stuff. Know where it is now?04:46
kurosthat one i do not know04:48
mauri29Guys, any suggestion to install vlc 1.0 through repositories ?04:48
i3earOh yeah, how much room does Ubuntu take?04:49
kurosmauri29: vlc is slooooooow on linux04:49
kurosi recommend freenx04:49
i3earand what are the hardware usage differences between Ubuntu and TinyXP?04:49
kurosnevermind04:49
i3earOr hell, XP in general04:49
kurosi'm thinking vnc >.>04:49
kurosmauri29: did you try adding the karmic sources to /etc/apt/source.list?04:51
mauri29no, looking for that04:52
kurosi3ear: linux will 9 times out of 10 always have a smaller foot print than windows04:52
kurosmauri29: you realize 1.0 is only a release candidate correct?04:53
i3earWhell how small? Give me a general size for the OS here, are we taling 5 GB? 10? 25?04:53
kaddimauri29: vlc 1.0.0 is not out yet, no?04:53
i3earon a HDD I mean04:54
i3earI only have soo much room on my HDD :(04:54
bazhangkuros, mauri29 you don't want to add karmic sources to an earlier release04:54
kurosbazhang: i haven't04:54
kuroshe wanted to install 1.0 from repos04:54
bazhangbest bet is to get the PPA for vlc if you must04:54
kuroswithout grabbing the .deb that's pretty much the only way i know of04:54
bazhangkuros, best not to recommend it either04:55
bazhangkuros, there is a PPA for it04:55
mauri29bazhang, could you give the PPA link ?04:55
kurosanyone want to get an openarena game going?04:56
bazhanghttps://launchpad.net/~kow/+archive/ppa mauri29 its rc204:57
kaddiit should also have rc404:58
bazhangkaddi, I stand corrected :)04:58
mikeldoes anyone know if it's possible / how to decompile a device driver (or get the source), rewrite it, recompile it, then re-install it04:58
mikelkuros: What's "openarena"?04:59
kurosbasically quake304:59
kuroslol04:59
kurosit's in the repos04:59
kurosdaychange05:00
yao_ziyuanafter i change screen resolution in system settings / display,05:00
yao_ziyuanthe next time i start kubuntu it will revert back to 1280x1024.05:00
yao_ziyuanwhat could be possible causes?05:00
mikelyao_ziyuan: google editing the xorg.conf file05:01
yao_ziyuanwell.05:01
yao_ziyuanmikel: my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a very default one05:02
yao_ziyuanmikel: it only mentions nonsense such as "Configured Video Device", "Configured Monitor", "Default Screen"05:02
yao_ziyuanmikel: i know X now automatically detects monitor05:03
what_ifhas anyone else noticed their kbuntu system getting slower? Apps using 100% cpu, computer basically being buggy?05:17
i3earso, burnign shit to DVD05:18
i3earcan linux do this?05:18
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bazhangi3ear, please watch the language05:18
what_ifi3ear: yes it can05:18
i3earwith menus and subtitles and alternate audio?05:19
i3earI am a hopeless anime shutin here05:19
what_ifyou trying to directly copy a DVD menus and all ?05:19
mikelyao_ziyuan: well, I'm at a loss... but I really don't know much about Linux anyways...05:19
i3earnope05:19
i3earBurnign MKV, with all the little options with it, like alternate audio and sub titles, onto a DVD05:20
mikelAnyone know how to get the source code for kubuntu stuff? I know how to use apt-get soucr [package], but I'm trying to find the source for drivers05:21
what_ifi3ear: never burned an MKV file so I cant recommend software for it, sry.05:22
mikelI have a laptop with a remote and want to rewrite the remote driver so that it can be used like a mouse.05:22
what_ifmikel: drivers are in the kernel05:22
mikelwhat_if: where do I get source for the kernel? or can I get that like I can get the source of packages? Do you know where I can find info on doing this (as I imagine it's alot to type here)?05:24
mikeli3ear: If you really like anime, try kumby.com (full length episodes, youtube style)05:25
what_ifmikel: package linux-source05:25
tsimpsonor "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)"05:26
what_ifmikel: does the remote currently work? It may just need integration into X.org05:26
bazhang!info lirc05:27
ubottulirc (source: lirc): infra-red remote control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.4a-0ubuntu5 (jaunty), package size 477 kB, installed size 2140 kB05:27
mikelwhat_if: The remote works perfectly... sending "keyboard input" like it should, but I want ot find a way to rewrite it so that instead when I hit an "arrow" key, it sends the mouse X pixels in the respective direction05:27
i3earnice mikel05:27
what_ifbazhang: precisely05:27
what_ifmikel: that is unnessecery since the system already is getting an input for every key-press. These presses just need top be integrated into the Xorg configuration. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-425660.html -- has a few config files to try out.05:29
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mikelubottu: Thanks alot...05:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Thanks alot...05:30
mikelubottu: I thought that (lirc) was the "package" that I needed to mess with.. like it was a patch or something and not a driver I was actually looking for...05:32
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:32
what_ifmikel: also, you may be ably to just run "lircmd" the Lirc Mouse Daemon which simulates a mouse from infared ...05:32
mikelwhat_if: If I messed with the xorg configuration, would that discern from keyboard strokes from the remote and those from the keyboard?05:33
what_ifmikel: yes you could, but may have to remap keys. lircmd will do all of that for you though.05:36
mikelwhat_if: I want it to tell the difference between the remote and keyboard, so I think that means less work, but first I have to install lirc, which I'm a little hesitant to do since the main reason I wanted to do this was to learn how to rewrite drivers, but using the remote as a mouse would be cool too. :)05:37
what_ifmikel: I'm not sure what type of a rewrite you want to do of a character device that is 100% operational. In fact there is not much you can do...05:40
mikelwhat_if: Ok, just went to install lirc and it wants me to select a configuration for my remote, by selecting the remote I have, however... my remote is not a tv or cable remote... it's designed for the computer and it's buttons send signals that are interpreted as keyboard input...05:40
what_ifmikel: and you just want to use this as mouse input? Right ?05:42
mikelwhat_if: Yes, but the bigger idea is that I (a newb to Linux and to C programming) will learn how to rewrite a driver... :(05:43
what_ifmikel: wow, translating keyboard inputs into mouse commands at the kernel level is definitely going to be a task05:47
what_iflircmd.c is 850-ish lines of code.05:48
mikelwhat_if: I'm so inspired... I think it's more than that though... becuase I specifically want to "intercept" the hardware input from the infared sensor and have it send mouse input instead of keyboard input05:49
mikelwhat_if: Do you have any good suggestions then? I want to do something that helps me learn about the real "core" of linux and helps me learn C programming. I'm converting from VB6 in Windows to C in Linux05:50
what_ifmikel: you will need to translate the keyboard input (keypresses) into mouse-movement commands05:51
what_ifmikel: if you download the kernel source there is a crap-ton of documentation in there. Should install to /usr/src/linux or something similar05:52
mikelwhat_if: I think I need to go a step below that. Where can I find directions for getting the source of the kernel, and replacing the one I have, with it (without even changing anything, just getting that)05:52
mikelwhat_if: Where do I find the source of that?...05:52
what_ifwww.kernel.org05:52
what_ifahhh, also here is a quick/dirty ubuntu howto05:54
what_ifhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile05:54
what_ifand if you really want to learn linux, install a version of Gentoo linux. Uses a very BSD/Unix like package management system. You will learn a ton05:56
mikelwhat_if: lol.. at the help page it had a section "why not to compile a kernel" and the first bullet was "You merely need to compile a special driver. For this, you only need to install the linux-headers packages. "05:57
i3earI don't have a blank CD, can I just run Ubutnu off of windows, and have it reorganize my partitions and all that good stuff?05:59
what_ifyes, modules in linux (aka drivers) can be removed and inserted with the system running. These need only be compiled against the correct header files.06:00
mikelwhat_if: And it also says (whichh makes total sense) that basically, if I mess something up (highly likely) I'll need to reinstall the "system" from scratch... ok I'm going to google how to install Gentoo over Kubuntu or maybe something else geez this is a pain06:00
what_ifi3ear: nope06:00
what_ifmikel: well, if you mess it up and don't know how to fix it then yes, reinstall needed. This will be the same on all systems06:01
mikeli3ear: Windows has it's own partitioning management tool. Can't remember the name, but I do remember that it's standard and you can find the name by googling for it06:01
i3earhmm, I still have my old copy of ubuntu, I think06:01
i3earit is about 2 years old, will that work?06:01
what_ifi3ear: it will, but probably better to use a more current so you are not dealing with old bugs that have already beem fixed.06:02
i3earI don't have any blank CDs06:02
i3earAnd I do not want to waste a DVD06:02
what_ifi3ear: have a usb pendrive ?06:02
i3ear4 GBs, but I have no floppy disk drive, and I don't know if my motherboard will allow for booting from USB06:03
mikelwhat_if: Thank you for all the help and time06:05
what_ifmikel: you are welcome. If you do end up installing Gentoo (will take you a weekend) you will have a _lot_ more linux knowledge06:06
what_ifnot so much of kernel internals, but of how the system actually works. Linux From Scratch is the next-harder version from gentoo (I'm doing that next week)06:07
what_ifand goodnight, past my bedtime06:08
i3earQuestion, I am using Wubi to install06:11
i3earon the install size, is that partition size we are talking about, or what?06:11
i3earI mean like, is it gonan cut this partition into peices or what?06:12
bazhangi3ear, no, it will install in a file inside of Windows, that can be deleted when / if you wish06:19
bazhangi3ear, ie add/remove06:19
husayn__I have installed VMWARE PLAYER on Kubunu ...06:33
husayn__when i start it , it is giving me error : Kernel Headers 2.6.24-23-generic06:33
husayn__it is asking for Kernel Headers 2.6.24-23-generic06:33
husayn__from where i can get these modules06:33
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dio_hello06:38
jussi01husayn: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`06:53
dj-vaporkubuntu rules07:11
yao_ziyuanwant to disable gnome apps' sound events in kde4.07:12
yao_ziyuangnome-sound-properties can disable them, but it also automatically starts 'gnome-settings-daemon'07:12
yao_ziyuanif there a way to disable gnome sound effects without running gnome-settings-demon?07:13
dwidmannyao_ziyuan: is there some reason in particular why you need that daemon to not be running, other than "I don't feel like having a GNOME daemon running?"07:17
yao_ziyuandwidmann: it regulates every gnome app and can slow down performance07:17
yao_ziyuandwidmann: for example, when any gnome app wants to display some text, the control will first pass to gnome-settings-daemon to determine the right font07:18
dwidmannyao_ziyuan: interesting. How bad is the performance hit? Very noticable?07:19
ugurhi all07:20
ugurhow can i close a post i had opened in ubuntuforums07:21
yao_ziyuandwidmann: psychologically undesirable07:21
dwidmannyao_ziyuan: My assumption is it's probably abasolutely required for the apps you're trying to run, in the way you're trying to run them ...07:21
uguror mark the post as solved?07:21
yao_ziyuanmaybe there is a config file for gnome apps to look at when they can't get settings from gnome-settings-daemon07:24
yao_ziyuana default config file.07:25
yao_ziyuannever mind. i'll use gnome-settings-daemon07:25
ugurit shouldn't be that hard to close a post but i couldn't find it :)07:26
naftilos76Hi everybody, does anybody know how we can properly write greek letters in Kubuntu? Example: i can write 'α' but i cannot write 'ά'! This should be directed to the respective channel but unfortunately there is only one (ubuntu-gr) and nobody seems to answer! Can anybody make a guess?07:30
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agathamorning, i have an issue.. i have a *.docx file but when i try to get it from the mail it's attached it says its a bin file. so i do not know how to open it07:36
uguragatha you can use openoffice 3.0 or above to open docx files07:40
agathaoh thanks ugur07:41
ugur3.1 is the latest version and works well07:41
uguryou can find 3.0 in the repositories07:41
ugurbut i suggest you manually download and install 3.1 from sun's web site07:42
uguryou can find similar threads in ubuntuforums or i can guide you if you want07:43
agathai have openoffice installed but when i saw the bin i did not know what to do with it07:45
agathadid not cross my mind to try and open it... wonder why that change in the filename07:45
ugurwhat version of ubuntu and openoffice are you using?07:45
agathaubuntu 9.04 and openoffice... sec07:45
agatha3.0.107:46
ugurit should work then07:46
agathajup it worked thanks a bunch07:47
ugurif you cannot open a docx file you can try OO 3.107:48
jussi01ugur: please dont recommned to istall stuff just from websites if there is no reason to.07:48
jussi01!wfm | ugur07:48
ubottuugur: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/07:48
uguri see sorry then i changed it as you can07:50
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dsmith_i cannot get glxgears to run08:31
dsmith_Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"08:31
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dsmith_Here is a paste of my xorg.conf08:33
dsmith_http://paste.ubuntu.com/204011/08:33
maelwrythHi folks, anyidea when the kopete upgrade will be available in the repos or if there is a repo to join for it? According to the kopete channel there is one being released to fix the yahoo server problems.08:57
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MakuseruHi, I have a problem. If i have Amarok open and playing music, then pause it and play a youtube video in firefox the video plays, but when i stop the video and unpause Amarok i have no sound and have to restart my computer to get sound back. Why is this happening and how can i stop it from happening?09:12
MamarokMakuseru: that looks very much like flash hogging your sound, just try shutting down firefox, eventuall just restarting KDE, no need to restart the whole machine09:50
MakuseruMamarok: Is there no fix for this? Its very inconvient to have to do that each time i want to watch something on youtbe.09:51
MamarokMakuseru: well, what system do you have 64 bit?09:53
Makuseru34bit.09:53
Makuseru62*09:53
Makuseru32***09:53
frederickhello everybody... someone has experience with ehcp on ubuntu server?µ09:53
Mamarokalso, are you using the phonon-xnie-backend ?09:53
Mamarokfrederick: you should ask in #ubuntu-server then I guess09:54
MakuseruMamarok: I dont even know what that is.09:54
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MamarokMakuseru: go to the system settings -> Multimedia, the second tab should read xine as backend09:54
FlipSton3ok, tnx09:54
MamarokFlipSton3: yaw :)09:54
MakuseruI don't have a Multimedia tab (I'm using KDE3.)09:55
Mamarokoh, then I don't know, sorry, I haven't used KDE 3 in ages09:55
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sgrovernot sure where best to ask this...  Anyone know how to extract data from a Dbase 3 (*.dat files)?  Bash script or php will likely be the target language (if possible).  Target is a) csv file for archiving, and b) mysql or postgreql10:12
sgroverGoogle searching is kinda challenging - some potential hits, but no silver bullet (yet)10:12
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Mamarokouch, can't you export it to a csv?10:13
Mamarokthere should still be some convertors around I think10:13
sgroverI'd love too.  Any idea what tool to use?  (we do not have the native tools around to do this)10:13
Mamarokhm, I sure have some old db3 lying around here, but for dos, should work with wine I think10:14
Mamaroksgrover: no old db3 version at all?10:14
sgroveran old production app is generating daily "databases" that we need to pull data out of for more complex reporting on a daily basis...10:14
Mamarokthat's public domain by now I guess anyway, since that time...10:14
sgroverpatent wise, maybe, not copyright wise... :)10:15
Kubuntu-studioHi guys10:15
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Mamaroksgrover: I know nothing by heart, would have to google myself10:15
sgroverthanks.  I haven't found the right incantation yet.. :)10:16
sgroverer.  thanks for the effort I meant... lol10:16
sgroverit's looking like I'll have to write a script to make use of unixODBC.  Guess it's time for me to learn python then..10:17
Peace-xD10:17
sgroveror maybe just do a php cli script...10:18
Mamarokruby :)10:18
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sgroverguess that depends on the target server :)  at the moment it'll likely be a ubuntu lamp server10:20
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Mamaroksgrover: well, php then I guess, or perl?10:24
catohello, I have some problems with the configuration of global keybindings in kde4. When I want to use the Key with the KeySym "XF86AudioPause" in amarok, it says "the pressed key is not supported by qt" (not the literal english message, translated from germna by myself)10:40
Mamarokcato: did you check the settings?10:43
catowhich settings?10:43
catoMamarok: this messages appears while trying to set the keybinding within the amarok-global-keybinding-config10:45
alexandrionhy10:50
lovrehy10:50
lovremy firefox is rather slow when i open multiple tabs. So slow in fact its hard to work10:50
alexandrioncan help me somebody? I need some compiz efects on kubuntu. know some package what can help me?10:51
lovrewhat could it be? i have a feeling it  happens when there are many animations on the page..10:51
lovrealexandrion: compiz-fusion ?10:51
alexandrionstil works on kubuntu?10:51
lovreafaik10:52
alexandrionon kde 4.2?10:52
lovrealexandrion: if you have kde 4.2, you dont need anything, KWin has it all built in10:52
lovreim using it as we speak10:52
lovrejust go to system settings10:52
alexandrionok10:52
lovreand set compositing on10:52
alexandrionthats what I need it. thanks :)10:53
jussi01alexandrion: yeah, system settings - desktop10:54
alexandrionI just installed kwin10:54
catoMamarok: solution: QT doesn't support all common keysyms: http://www.koders.com/cpp/fidBBA1F1A57DD92C250C62A09F20576362991089AE.aspx?s=mdef%3Ainsert#L88311:00
cato7win 2411:00
Mamarokcato: right, forgot that there was a problem11:00
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n8whey11:36
n8wis it possible to get beryl for kubuntu via the kpackagemanager?11:37
n8wcoz it doesnt find anythin if i type in "beryl"11:37
Mamarokn8w: you don't need Compiz in KDE4, Kwin does the compositing11:44
admincshi all11:45
n8wMamarok: thx..11:45
shadeslayeradmincs: hi11:45
admincshow are ta ??11:45
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Mamarokn8w: yaw :)11:46
* admincs 11:46
Mamarokadmincs: do you have a question?11:46
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n8wMamarok: well ur sayin that i dont need that compiz thing, but where do i enable all the effects?11:47
callumitusno question ... just trying to find a list of irc servers ...11:47
Mamarokn8w: go to systemsettings -> Desktop, and enable the desktop effects11:47
Mamarokcallumitus: well, you will not find lists here, this is a support channel11:47
callumitusi understand, its the only chatroom in the only server thats currently listed on my client11:48
n8wMamarok: heh,omg im stupid ...thx man:)11:50
gunslinger_bwahahahaahahahaaa11:52
Mamarokn8w: yaw :)11:55
MirinodelBonjour j'ai un problème sur mon Kubuntu T.T J'ai paumé Kpackages (donc j'utilise apt-get pour installer) et j'arrive pas à mettre firfox T.T Quelqu'un peut il m'aider ? (Evité le RTFM please T.T)11:56
Mirinodelevitez*11:56
bazhang!fr | Mirinodel11:59
ubottuMirinodel: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr11:59
MirinodelOk12:00
MirinodelThanks12:00
bazhangyou're welcome :)12:00
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MakuseruHi, I have a problem. If i have Amarok open and playing music, then pause it and play a youtube video in firefox the video plays, but when i stop the video and unpause Amarok i have no sound and have to restart my computer to get sound back. Why is this happening and how can i stop it from happening?12:15
kaHow do I follow windows symlinks in ubuntu? I keep getting asked which app I want to open the *.lnk file with.12:15
kaMakuseru: I would like to know why that happens too. I bet it has something to to with pulseaudio, but I dont really know.12:17
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jussi01Makuseru: have you got pulse audio installed? if so, try uninstalling it...12:17
Makuserujussi01: Im not sure, how can i check.12:17
kajussi01: Will ALSA take over then?12:17
jussi01phonon...12:17
jussi01Makuseru: sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio12:18
Makuserujussi01: alrught.12:20
Makuserualright*12:20
jussi01Makuseru: let me know if that fixes it... :D12:20
MakuseruIll try, hold on.12:20
MakuseruI think i need to restart first, sound was already broke.12:20
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Makuserujussi01: Nope, didnt work/.12:23
vbgunzhow do I get rid of the little notification icon in the KDE4 system tray?12:24
jussi01Makuseru: but you did have pulse installed previously?12:24
jussi01vbgunz: which one?12:24
Makuserujussi01: I suppose. I dont remeber installing it, but that purge removed it.12:24
vbgunzthe little blue i12:24
vbgunzits stuck in the tray12:25
vbgunzit doesn't open12:25
jussi01Makuseru: yeah, IM guessing you either dist upgraded or installed from dvd12:25
vbgunzI got rid of it... to do it I had to close the system tray and reopen it12:25
Mamarokvbgunz: you can, but that is the notification information, and it will pop up notifications when something is happening in the system, like file copying, choqok messages, etc12:26
Makuserujussi01: No, I installed fresh from a cd.12:26
Mamarokvbgunz: so if you remove it you will have no more system information...12:26
vbgunzMamarok: yeah *but* lately its been just getting stuck in the system tray... in other words, it pops up but never goes away and I cannot open it12:26
Mamarokvbgunz: you don't understand: it is empty, but will pop up notifications when needed12:27
Mamarokso if you disable it you will have no notifications anymore12:27
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vbgunzMamarok: you dont understand. its a bug. shouldn't that blue notification icon pop up only when they're is something to notify me about? when I am done noticing, it is suppose to go away. but worse, I click on the blue icon and *nothing* happens, I appear not to get any more notifications. it appears stuck12:28
Mamarokvbgunz: no, it is intended like this, not a bug12:28
Mamarokit probably crashed because you tried to remove it there, you need to do this in the system polidies12:29
Mamarokpolicies*12:30
kaMamarok: I dont have the notification icon when there are no notifications. Sounds like vbgunz is experiencing a bug.12:31
vbgunzyeah ka, exactly12:32
kajussi01: I didn't have pulse installed but the behaviour is still broken like Makuseru described.12:33
vbgunzI dont have it when there are no notifications. I am stuck with an "i" in the system tray and when I click for the notice nothing happens. I have a little "i' stuck in my tray with nothing to notify about12:33
Mamarokka: this is in kde 4.3 beta 2 only, not in 4.2.x12:38
laz0rhi, does anyone now if there are packages available for jaunty which fix this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18671012:39
Mamarokand again, the I stays on here and it doesn't disturb me. It pops up comments when needed, lese just ignore it, why is that a bug?12:39
Mamarokless*12:39
kaMamarok: ? I dont understand?12:40
Mamarokka: the fact that it stays visible is particular to KDE 4.3 IMHO12:40
kaah ok. Then it may not be a bug after all.12:41
kaMakuseru: Try it again it worked for me...12:42
Makuseruka: Try what again?12:43
kaMakuseru: the sound thingy I mean12:43
MakuseruIts broke.12:43
MakuseruRight now.12:43
kaNow for the ultimate test... Skype...12:43
MakuseruUninstalling that didnt work.12:43
liam_Anyone know how to search the sudo cache for MSN Messenger?12:44
kaMakuseru: Go to Systemsetting/Multimedia/make sure pulse is not on top12:45
Makuseruka: I have KDE3, i dont have a multimedia tab.12:45
Mamarokka: he also needs to remove .kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc then restart KDE12:45
kaAha. Then I really dont know12:46
Mamarokah, right, that's the problem, Makuseru, you should state that at the very beginning of your questions...12:46
MakuseruMamarok: I didnt think it mattered.12:46
Mamarokmakeit matters always to know what version the user has, everything else is guessing12:47
MakuseruIts not like im not using 9.04 though.12:47
MamarokMakuseru: ^^^sorry, typo12:47
MamarokMakuseru: we don not give support for KDE 3 on Jaunty, check with the author of the PPA12:47
kaMakuseru: Since upgrades are free we tend to assume everyone is on latest stabel version unless otherwise specified...12:48
Mamarokit's a private initiative and not an official release12:48
MakuseruThere seem to be quite a few kde3 problems. I'd like to use KDE4 to fix them all, but its just horrible.12:48
kaMakuseru: What do you think is so terrible?12:48
MamarokMakuseru: well, you need to make your mind up then what you want to use, KDE4 works fine for most of us and it's getting better every day12:49
* ka is earnestly interested12:49
Makuseruka: Everything. Plasma, widgits, they are just so bulky and akward to use.12:49
Mamarokka: we should take this to #kubuntu-offtopic, it's not support related12:49
MamarokMakuseru: see my comment above to ka12:50
MakuseruIt took me ages to just figure out how to move the panel bar to move to the top of the screen. And i still cant figure out how to move things how id like them to be in the panel.12:50
liam_Anyone know how to search the sudo cache for MSN Messenger?12:51
MamarokMakuseru: please, come to #kubuntu-offtopic, this is OT here12:51
Mamarokliam_: sudo cache?12:51
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kaMamarok: I dont agree, I have problems with the plasmapanels to. the default one on the bottom works fine. trying to put one on the side is a pain and if anyone sees this post and can explain to e here I would be interested to know.12:52
kae=me12:52
Mamarokka: if it is support related, no problem, but discussion does not belong here12:52
Mamarokka: are you on 4.2.2 or such?12:53
kawhere do I see my kde4 versionnumer.12:55
Tm_Tka: on ~every application: help > about12:56
Mamarokka: open dolphin and go to the Help menu, about KDE12:56
MamarokTm_T: :)12:56
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kaMamarok: kde 4.2.412:57
Tm_Tor, you could write to konsole, for example, "konqueror --version" which will print stuff like Konqueror: 4.3.60 (KDE 4.3.60 (KDE 4.4 >= 20090624))12:57
Mamarokright, there have been substantial improvements in KDE 3 so far, but Kubuntu still only has beta 2 packages12:57
Tm_Ts/3/4.3/12:57
Mamarokbut as KDE 4.3 final is due early July it will end up quite fast in the bacports I think12:58
Tm_Taye12:58
Mamarokbackports*12:58
MamarokTm_T: you use trink?12:58
Tm_TMamarok: I ~always use trunk (:12:58
altrortlahello... please I don't remember what is the program to "download" entire sites and browse them of line.... somebody can halp me?13:02
altrortlamay be httrack???13:03
Peace-webhttp13:03
Peace-some like that?13:04
Peace-altrortla: i think right htttrack something13:04
Peace-webhtttrack13:04
Peace-bah13:04
altrortlayes13:04
altrortlait's a mix13:04
altrortla.-)13:04
Mamarok!enter | altrortla13:05
ubottualtrortla: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!13:05
altrortlaok13:06
Mamarokditto for Peace- :)13:06
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liam_Is it possible to get MSN Messenger on Kubuntu?13:34
Mamarokliam_: I think you can use it with Kopete or Pidgin, moment13:36
Mamarok!msn13:36
ubottuInstant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin13:36
liam_Don't really get how Kopete works tho >.<13:36
Mamarok!info kopete13:37
ubottukopete (source: kdenetwork): instant messenger for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 6838 kB, installed size 18516 kB13:37
Mamarokyou need to install it first I think, then add your msn account to the settings13:37
liam_I entered my WLS info but after connecting i don't see my contacts or anything13:37
liam_!pidgin13:41
ubottuThe Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete13:41
liam_!How can i get flashplayer on Kubuntu?13:47
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:47
liam_oops13:47
kiran.deb file  is available in net13:47
liam_I have that, but got no idea what to do with it.13:48
kirandouble click13:48
liam_mm13:48
liam_Then it says 'Choose application'13:48
kiranor open with package manager13:48
liam_I would do that if i could find it.13:48
kiranhm13:48
liam_Found it in /usr/bin/13:49
Tm_T!flash | liam_13:49
ubottuliam_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash13:49
liam_Di13:50
liam_Don't worry about it i got it now.13:50
kiranping liam13:51
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liam_How can i install the WMV plugin?13:54
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novatry playing wmv file...then it will say plugins required...and will ask for search for plugins..click yes..it will automatically search and install...13:59
novathis is what i do for ubuntu13:59
novadont know about kubuntu13:59
Piciliam_: The kubuntu-restricted-extras package installs that14:00
liam_O, how may I obtain this prestigious package? ;)14:00
Piciliam_:from a terminal:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras14:03
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novahow can i send a file?14:11
novaor receive?14:11
novaF114:11
microtechsend or receive a file?14:11
microtechftp...14:11
Picif1?14:12
novai mean thru irc?14:12
PiciDo you?14:12
nova???14:12
novado u wat?14:13
Picinova: Do you mean through IRC?14:13
novayup14:13
novathru irc14:13
liam_Anyone know why my youtube isn't playing sound?14:14
Picinova: dcc typicially, but it may require your router to forward ports14:14
sp0ckkHow can I stop Kopete from displaying that rather annoying box above the system tray icon when someone sends me a message?14:15
Dragnslcrsp0ckk- Settings -> Configure Notifications14:16
DragnslcrA lot of KDE applications use the same notifications system14:16
sp0ckkDragnslcr, thank you. what a pain. I'm pretty new to KDE. I used to hate it to be honest, but to be honest it's growing on me.14:17
sp0ckkit's actually quite a nice dm14:17
DragnslcrKDE4 has gotten really nice since 4.2.014:17
DragnslcrAnd 4.3.0 is due out in a couple weeks14:17
replmanHi! Kubuntu 9.04: Since more than a week i have 4 blocked packages in the software update: linux-headers-generic, linux-restricted-modules-generic, linux-generic and linux-image-generic. How to fix that? Do you also have this problems?14:18
replmanIt's a 64-bit kubuntu, if this matters14:18
liam_Anyone know why my youtube isn't playing sound?14:18
sp0ckkDragnslcr, what are the chances in 4.3? anything decent?14:18
Dragnslcrreplman- yeah, if you want to install the new kernel, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"14:19
peabodyI'm using Kubuntu 9.04 and I was getting no sound in Flash, but everything else worked fine. I followed this guide :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 uninstalling the applications it said, I had to install pulseaudiodaemon because it was not installed and I followed trough part A and C. I've restarted, and I still have audio in my other applications, but nothing in flash.14:20
ubsafderhow can i resize a partition sda1 from the comand line to take entire disk sda ?14:20
Dragnslcrsp0ckk- http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3-beta2.php has some of the changes14:20
peabodyubsafder: use gparted from a live cd14:20
ubsafderit is an ext3 partition14:20
replmanDragnslcr: Ok, i'll try, thanks14:20
ubsafderonly fdisk sees the partition14:21
Dragnslcrubsafder- you can try using parted from a shell, but gparted or partitionmanager would be a lot easier14:22
peabodyubsafder: I've done this a dozen times in the last month and parted from the shell is a nightmare14:22
peabodyyou REALLY want to boot to a  livecd and use gparted14:22
sp0ckkDragnslcr, look nice. i'm looking forward to the sliding windows when taking focus away feature :)14:27
sp0ckkhmmm isn't there an EVE Online Linux client?14:28
Freyri have 4 blocked updates. how can i unblock those updates or remove it from my updates list ?14:28
sp0ckkfrankS2, good question. something i want to do too14:29
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liam_Can anyone tell me why sound is not playing through my USB headset?14:42
liam_Only through laptop speakers14:42
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sugalohow can i know if i have a 32-bit or a 64-bit platform ?14:57
m_tadeuhi everyone....what is the openoffice channel?14:58
Picim_tadeu: #openoffice.org14:59
m_tadeuahhh thanks14:59
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kaddisugalo: uname -m could give you that information, i think15:02
bergGreetings everyone15:02
sugalokaddi: thanks15:03
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bergAnybody around who could give me a hand on the network managment applet - Im unable to change my connection settings from dhcp to static ip15:08
makuseruCan you not burn a CD ISO to a DVD?15:09
berganybody around - need some help with the network widget in jaunty15:14
sp0ckk"/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_semaphore.h:5:27: error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory" -- any ideas what I'm missing here?15:15
bergme feels like i need to learn borg to communicate with the hive15:18
BluesKajberg , i recommend Wicd , more stable with better options15:21
BluesKajberg ,network widget is unstable15:22
bergah ok15:22
berganything i need to take care about before switching to wicd15:23
BluesKajberg , wicd will over ride the network widget , not to worry15:28
bergthanks a lot blue15:30
sp0ckkOK so thus far, I have a nice Kubuntu setup. I want to be able to restore to this exact point with ease in the future... software suggestions for making an image/backup for easy restore?15:35
captmiddysp0ckk: how big?15:49
captmiddywhen I say that how big is your partition that you want to backup15:49
captmiddyand do you want to be able to restore it from the backup directly is another question15:50
captmiddypartimage may be a good choice for you in any case15:51
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tyler_d_I have a tough question.... the desktop in kubuntu has a spot for notes.... where is this information saved, what is the name of that application/widget?16:01
captmiddyyou mean the plasma note?16:01
captmiddylittle yellow sticky?16:01
tyler_d_yes16:01
kaddiwha you type ni the plasmoid is saved in the plasmaconfig under .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc16:02
tyler_d_ty kaddi16:03
captmiddyThere is also knotes16:03
captmiddywhich allows you to have multiple notes and then you can see them from kontact16:04
tyler_d_nope, this is it, found the info16:04
tyler_d_:)16:04
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und3rgr0undz3r0Hey how do I see my Windows Machine's network shares?16:13
und3rgr0undz3r0Can someone here give me a hand? I need to access my network shares16:16
captmiddyin Konqueror: smb://server/share/16:21
captmiddyund3rgr0undz3r0: that was for you sorry16:21
BluesKajcaptmiddy, he could use dolphin /places/ntfs volume16:31
max____Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 9.04, is there no add/remove like in 8.04?16:34
BluesKajmax____, install adept16:37
max____BluesKaj: Thanks,.16:38
max____What would cause Adept Add/Remove to not see some programs I have installed?16:41
zero___captmiddy: so lets say I click on network16:42
zero___and NOTHING shows up16:42
BluesKajif you didn't use a package manager to install them , sometimes they won't be listed or theyt are listed with a slightly different name than you are entering16:42
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max____BluesKaj: This program was installed when i installed kubuntu. Im looking in add/remove and it says Quassel is uninstalled, but im on it right now.16:43
und3rgr0undz3r0captmiddy: so yeah, I click on network in dolphin and NOTHING shows up16:43
BluesKajdid you install quassel-dev version from source perhaps?16:45
max____I didnt install quassel. It was already installed when i booted up for the very first time.16:45
und3rgr0undz3r0can anyone help me see my windows shares on my windows box?16:45
BluesKajund3rgr0undz3r0, try dolphin places/ntfs volume16:45
und3rgr0undz3r0BluesKaj: its not on THIS machine, its a networked machine16:46
BluesKajund3rgr0undz3r0, not a partition ok16:46
BluesKajsamba ?16:46
und3rgr0undz3r0its installled16:46
und3rgr0undz3r0should be working16:46
und3rgr0undz3r0just isnt16:47
BluesKajvista on windows ?16:47
und3rgr0undz3r0windows 716:47
und3rgr0undz3r0i had it workin in fedora16:47
und3rgr0undz3r0but fedora sucks16:47
und3rgr0undz3r0so i came back to kubuntu16:47
BluesKajW7 is difficult to setup on a network ...it expects all other pcs tob e running W7 as well16:47
Tuxracer52_hallo zusammen, ich bin neu hier16:48
und3rgr0undz3r0i dunno, I had it working on Fedora and in XP, but for some reason not my favorite Linux distro lol16:48
BluesKajwhatever you do und3rgr0undz3r0 , don't use the homegroup networking on W716:48
und3rgr0undz3r0I just want to grab my stuff off there, i backed it all up on that box16:48
Tuxracer52_is this a only english channel ?16:48
und3rgr0undz3r0BluesKaj: no worries there lol16:49
und3rgr0undz3r0so damn16:50
und3rgr0undz3r0i DO NOT want to install nautilus16:50
und3rgr0undz3r0but it ALWAYS works in nautilus16:50
Tuxracer52_hallo und3rgr0undz3r016:50
und3rgr0undz3r0hallo Tuxracer52_16:50
Tuxracer52_und3rgr0undz3r0:16:50
Tuxracer52_eine kleine frage ich bekomm inxi nicht installiert in kubuntu x64 kde 4.x16:51
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harjotTuxracer52_: this is an english only channel dude16:52
harjotdunno what the german one is16:52
max____!de16:52
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.16:52
BluesKajund3rgr0undz3r0, setup the W7 shares again , kubuntusmaba should be able to see them after a reshare and reboot of the windows pc16:52
und3rgr0undz3r0im gonna see if krusader can see them16:52
houdinihey all16:55
houdiniIm new to this IRC system. Could anyone help me with changing my nickname?16:58
lupine_85houdini, /nick blah16:58
houdinilupine_85, so but typing a slash before the new name?16:58
lupine_85no, you type: /nick <new nickname here>16:59
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BluesKaj /nick newnick, do it in the server textbox16:59
houdinithanks verymuch16:59
houdinithanks, you saved me hours of time lol17:00
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bestonehail.17:00
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n8whey,where do i find any kind of start up manager for applications which i want to b kicked up everytime i log in?17:13
coz_n8w,  I believe system settings/advances/Autostart17:14
coz_advanced17:14
BluesKajn8w, just leave them on when you logoff , it's one way17:14
Xnet0yes, under advanced there is an icon called 'AutoStart"17:14
Xnet0add your programs to the list by clicking the button "Add Programs"17:15
n8wdamn i went down:)17:17
n8wcoz_: ye well there sint anythin like autostart ...17:18
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coz_n8w,  in system settings / Advanced  there should be an "Autostart" button17:19
Xnet0n8w, what version are you using?>17:19
n8wcoz_: nope...17:19
n8wXnet0: 9.0417:19
lovrei have to recover data from a laptop, so i tried to do it with live kubuntu, but it doesnt seem to have enough RAM memory. What do you recommend? Is there another linux solution i can try?17:19
Xnet0n8w, kk thats what i'm currently running.17:19
n8wBluesKaj: yep,ive figured that out too:)...17:19
Xnet0n8w, you could also run a script that has multiple programs enlisted, that you could click upon startup17:20
Xnet0n8w, Ive done that before with a pplib ati fan speed command17:20
n8wBluesKaj: i was more thinkin like if i do force reboot/shutdown or smth, everythin runnin will b lost,includin all runin appz17:20
Xnet0lol17:21
BluesKaj!shortforms17:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about shortforms17:21
BluesKaj!english17:21
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draikI'm having USB issues with my desktop. Went up to 300/360MB of an archive (.zip), xfer rate dropped and died, then the USB flash drive no longer appeared as connected. Here is my pastebin from dmesg: http://pastebin.com/f3b9bbc3217:21
draikGreatly appreciated for all that can take a look at that for me.17:23
n8wXnet0: so there is no start up manager at all?do i have to make a script to b ran everytime i wanna get all my appz up n runin?17:23
BluesKajdraik, do you have the device notifier widget installed on your panel?17:24
Xnet0n8w, there is a startup maanger, as i stated before.. im wondering why you cannot find it. But yes, writing a script could work.17:24
c3ohai all brother..17:25
c3odid you now scanner tool for scan website on kubuntu ?17:25
Xnet0n8w, check this exact method again. Go to system settings/advanced.17:25
Xnet0n8w, on that page there will be a set of icons under the heading of advanced user settings17:25
c3osor xnet0 ? what you mean17:25
draikBluesKaj: Yes, I do.17:25
BluesKajso usb isn't showing up17:26
Xnet0n8w, click on autostart ( icon with gears)17:26
n8wXnet0: should i make a screenshot for u?nothin like autostart is there:)17:26
draikBluesKaj: It shows up, but then it goes away when xfer fails17:26
n8wXnet0: OMG..im sry:DDD17:26
Xnet0n8w, lol its fine. did you find it?17:27
n8wXnet0: omg:)))) ye i did...i dont understand how i could have not seen it before:D17:27
draikXfer rate is around 25-30MB/s, then it starts to slow down to zero and it just sits there. A few seconds later, the drive is not displayed in the USB notifier and the window shows up as blank.17:27
Xnet0n8w, lol sweet now your up n runnin17:27
lovrewhy is my sound much silenter in kubuntu then in windows? Same settings, no equalizer of any kind, but still in windows i can get much higher volume then in kubuntu.. what can be the reason?17:28
Xnet0lovre, did you check your Kmixer setttings?17:28
n8wXnet0: cheers m8, i appriciate your patience:)))17:28
Xnet0n8w, no problem have a good day ;)17:28
lovreXnet0: well, its all at max17:28
n8wXnet0: u217:28
BluesKajlovre, in the terminal, alsamixer , set your sliders17:29
Xnet0lovre, even pcm??17:29
c3ohalllo2 any body know how to scan website hole with terminal ???17:29
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Xnet0c3o, why would you need that scanning capability for?17:30
draikBluesKaj: The USB device is 8GB. My external 500GB will light up for a few seconds and then turn off. The external doesn't even register with USB Notifier17:30
Xnet0**what17:30
lovreXnet0: yes even pcm. why?17:30
Xnet0lovre, that seems to help with mine. what sound card? May be able to look up similiar problems in some forums/17:31
lovreXnet0: nVidia mother board integrated, i dont know what model17:32
lovreXnet0: i will look around a bit, thank you17:32
Xnet0lovre, check using alsamicer17:32
Xnet0alsamixer17:32
Xnet0lovre, it will tell you your type17:32
draikBluesKaj: On top of the USB, I can't SSH it from another computer on my network. I just tried and got up to 6MB/s. It died at 96/360MB of the file. I have now lost Internet/Network connection.17:32
c3oam developer website my attacer hack my site...17:32
lovreXnet0: realtek alc88817:33
lovreXnet0: does that tell you anythin :)17:33
c3oam need find  the hole but am need scanner to.. .for find it...17:33
Xnet0lovre, umm lol. well ive only had problems with HDAintel soundcards. Im not sure that i could be of much help with that one. Althought this is the case, ive seen a lot online about realtek.17:34
Xnet0Lovre, check it out by typing "realtek alc888 problems in kubuntu" on google or any search engine your prefer17:35
lovreXnet0: ok thank you for your time, i will do some searching now :)17:35
Dragnslcrc3o- you can probably find some vulnerability scanners floating around the Internet, but it's not a trivial task17:35
Xnet0lovre, no problem have a nice day17:35
BluesKajdraik , i'm also having network issues with wife's flaky vista ..it's really unrelaible , sometimes it's fine othertimes it won't let me in no matter what. Wondering if it could be samba17:42
genjixlovre: u having sound problems?17:43
draikBluesKaj: My girl's sister has Vista and it won't let her connect to her own AP. Her ISP checked the AP and did a line test. All is well so it is narrowed down to Vista. I wouldn't be surprised if the same applies to you.17:44
draikBluesKaj: I restarted the computer and I'm doing the cp via CLI and I hope that works and maybe just a GUI issue.17:44
draikI just wish that 'cp' was able to show me the xfer rate, amount xfer'd and ETC.17:45
draikETC = Estimated Time of Completion17:45
BluesKajdraik, ssh'ing ? wonder if that would work for me17:46
draikI have my netbook on the network and that's where I had the archive. I tried SSH and that failed miserably.17:46
draikSSH gave me xfer rate of 6MB/s TOPS and died after 96.0MB17:46
draikWith the GUI xfer, I got ot 300MB out of 362MB17:47
BluesKajbummer , was hoping for another avenue into the windows pcs on our network17:47
draikHammers are another way to get into the PC ;)17:47
BluesKajheh17:47
draikcp is still active and the light on the USB device is flashing, so I guess its going well, but I wish I had a rate so that I know how it is really going. 'cp -v /media/device/file.zip ~/folder/' isn't very helpful in this case17:48
draiksorry, .rar, not .zip17:49
makdaknife_draik: I guess you could use rsync to get better progress info17:49
draikI don't want to interrupt anything right now.17:50
dwidmannHmm, I've got a problem with amarok 2.1 ... seems like it stops after everty track sometimes? (stop after track is not set, repeat playlist is). Quite aggrevating :(17:50
draikmakdaknife_: http://pastebin.com/f3b9bbc3217:50
draikIf I could get my USB and networking issues resolved, I would then consider Kubuntu as my end-all solution. Seeing how this doesn't happen on my XP partition, makes me wonder about what is going on.17:52
K|ckMei need help setting up OpenSSL to use with Unrealircd17:55
draikBluesKaj: CLI did it17:57
draikI guess it is a GUI issue17:57
BluesKajdraik, cli, how ?17:57
draikBluesKaj: cp /media/device/folder/file.rar ~/folder/17:58
draikBluesKaj: But here's a weird thing. The device no longer read once it finished17:58
draikTo assure the cp was a complete success, I wanted to check md5's. Nothing in that device's directory17:59
draikAnd I also lost Internet :(18:00
BluesKajdraik, what about copying from one pc to another ?18:01
RasmusHi18:01
draikBluesKaj: If you mean SSH, that dies within 100MB of the file18:01
BluesKajflaky ssh or is it the distro that's causing all these probs, it's rhetorical...no need to answer18:03
draikSomething's up. USB fails, network fails when I do update/upgrade, SSH, try to load random sites (even MySpace/Facebook).. it's nothing concrete when it comes to networking.18:03
draikBluesKaj: But the thing is that it ONLY happens to this desktop. I have a server, netbook and 2 laptops. ONLY happens on this desktop.18:04
BluesKajall linux ?18:05
draikAll Kubuntu 9.0418:05
draikServer is 9.04 as well18:06
FloodBotK1!netsplit18:07
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:07
draik_Did we all just go through a netsplit?18:08
BluesKajlookslike18:08
draik_BluesKaj: Right now, I'm trying to download the Symantec update for my XP on virtualbox. The download rate is at 753kb/s and has now frozen. Started at around 6MB/s and now I have no Internet. This really sucks.18:09
Serpicohi18:09
halberdI can't seem to open X-chat in kde18:12
halberdit worked before (and it's worked since the last reboot) but now I can click on the x-chat icon and it enlarges like the program is opening, but then nothing happens18:13
halberdany ideas?18:14
halberdwhere is the x-chat log anyway?18:14
halberdwhen I try to open any application, it says it cannot open display :0.  What would cause that?  How to fix?18:20
halberdany gui application I mean18:21
draik_BluesKaj: Best of luck with Vista. I find it to be a bit much of a beta still. I'm going to go crazy trying to find out why USB and network fail on this desktop.18:21
halberdnvm I figured it out18:25
TITTIciao18:31
chull:)18:32
chullmy husband has k3b on his kubuntu 8.10 but it won't find it. how can we do that?18:33
BluesKajchull, alt+f2 , k3b18:34
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chullBluesKaj, or anyone... now he showed me that the 'burn' button is grayed out.. he can't burn to the CD18:38
chulland BluesKaj  that command worked nicely ! thank you :)18:39
draik_chull: Do you have a blank CD in the drive?18:40
chullDraik_ he had a DVD he's been using for photos .. he switched to a plain dvd .. but same problem18:43
draik_chull: Is it picking up the drive/device?18:45
draik_chull: Is K3B seeing the device, I mean18:45
chulldraik_, i'm not sure, is there a way to tell?18:45
chullit shows on the desktop18:46
chullif it's not there.. it doesn't18:46
DragnslcrIf you're using a blank DVD, make sure you selected DVD from the start18:46
chullDragnslcr, ty much, he did that too18:46
draik_Sorry, I had to step away for a bit. You should see it in the upper left panel at the top of the list.18:50
chulli tried to suggest that he try some other burning software but 1. he knows/likes k3b and 2. we don't know other good programs .. ideas?18:50
chulldraik_, on k3b or where?18:50
chullon k3b the FOLDERS show in the top left.. i don't see the burner indicated?18:51
chullit keeps coming up /Linux/Unix/Windows.. he has to slect Linux each time18:52
max____tcheque18:53
chullhi max____18:53
max____hi18:53
max____how you doin?18:53
chullmax____, we are trying to figure out why k3b doesn't work.. you?18:53
Dragnslcrchull- Settings -> Show Directories18:54
draik_chull: Yes.18:54
DragnslcrThat should open a pane on the left that includes burner info18:54
chullDragnslcr, ok looking18:54
draik_chull: Yes, it K3B.18:54
max____well I'm kind of a virgin of chats and all that stuff so I wanted to try.18:54
max____oh and please excuse my english18:55
chullmax____, it's fun.. this is a support chan.. but welcome :))18:55
chullDragnslcr, 'settings' where? he has kubuntu18:55
DragnslcrIn k3b's menu bar18:56
lovrehow can i check my system current charset19:00
chulldraik_, Dragnslcr .. i don 't see the burner in there at all19:03
geniilovre: echo $LANG    may tell you19:04
chullgenii, if you're good with language things, my open office keeps going back to baltic and arabic choices and won't give me English.19:06
geniichull: Not my strong point :)19:06
chullgenii, oh well, i'm sure you have many others :)19:07
lovregenii: ty19:10
chullDragnslcr, draik_  still here?19:13
DragnslcrYeah, sort of19:13
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chullDragnslcr, ty .. ideas for how to make it find the CD/DVD player?19:14
DragnslcrNot offhand, sorry. It's always worked automagically for me19:15
chullhehe but it's ours.. that makes it more interesting <g>19:16
MakuseruIs there any way to isntall a version before 2.1 of Amarok in kubuntu?19:17
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coz_Makuseru,  you might be able to find a package online  the only issue may be libraries it requires are out of date19:18
DragnslcrMakuseru- I think 2.0 is the initial version in Kubuntu 9.04. I thought 2.1 was only in a PPA19:19
BluesKajyes Makuseru. version 1.4 or 14 here : http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Compiling:1.419:20
MakuseruBluesKaj: Once again, thank you.19:20
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MakuseruBluesKaj: That link only tells you how to compile it from a .tar.bz. And it never links to any place to download one,19:22
MamarokMakuseru: well, you might find an old package of 1.4.10 in the Intrepid archives19:24
MakuseruMamarok: Where are those at?19:24
BluesKajMakuseru, http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/05/get-amarok-14-in-kubuntu-904.html19:24
MamarokMakuseru: wait, I will give you the link, but be aware that 1.4.10 needs a lot of KDE3 dependencies, might not work on KDE419:25
MakuseruThank you both.19:25
MamarokBluesKaj: thx :)19:25
MamarokMakuseru: yaw :)19:25
BluesKajMakuseru, make sure you follow the instructions about the ppas because there will probs otherwise with amarok constantly trying to upgrade to 2.1 or whatever the newest one is.19:26
MakuseruAlright,19:26
BluesKajIdidn't like amarok 2 at first but managed to figure it out ok. I just use it for a few fav netradio stn streams anyway19:28
irwinhola19:29
MakuseruHow can you edit the K Menu entries?19:34
garryMakuseru: Right-click the menu then click Menu Editor19:35
MakuseruThere is no menu editor.19:35
garryOk, sorry, no idea then19:35
garryNo, wait, open a console and enter 'kmenuedit'19:36
MakuseruThanks.19:36
garry:-)19:36
shadeslayeranyone who uses rekonq?19:41
azreih123I just installed kubuntu on my desktop.  my speakers are extremely quite when turned all the way up and I can't figure out why, any suggestions?19:41
shadeslayerazreih123: rt click the sound icon and set the master channel to master19:42
shadeslayerazreih123: then try turning up the volume from the icon(seet it to max)19:43
shadeslayer*set19:43
azreih123when I right click and select "select master'  "Master" is not an option19:43
shadeslayerazreih123: what are the options?19:44
azreih123Front, Headphone, PCM Center, Wave there's alot.  PCM is set to master right now, and I have it turned ALL the way up.  Also in the mixer, front and PCM sliders both turn it up and down19:44
shadeslayerazreih123: ok,right click the sound icon > show mixer window > settings > configure channels > select everything and set everything to max19:45
shadeslayerazreih123: then select master channel as master and high :)19:46
azreih123oddly enough, there is still no "Master" channel19:47
azreih123turning everything up helped a bit, but not half as load as my Bose speakers should be able to go19:47
shadeslayerazreih123: in a terminal type alsamixer and set everything to high there..19:48
Mamarokazreih123: can't you add it in kmix settings?19:48
microtechwith this new kernel and the ability to do ext4 with LVM, is there a way to create a data pool similar to a ZFS pool?  I have two drives, different sizes, I want to make one volume...19:49
azreih123Everything in Alsa mixer is all the way up no change, it was all the way up already19:50
shadeslayerazreih123: see Mamarok's comment19:51
sanjaysHI19:51
shadeslayersanjays: hi19:51
azreih123Mamarok no I cannot add a master channel, thre is no option for it in the channels19:52
sanjaysIf theres anyone here who can help me with my loggerhead upgrade to its latest trunck19:52
microtechAnyone have any ideas on how I can create one volume from two different sized drives?  I tried zfs-fuse but it appears it's gotten buggier as kubuntu advances..19:52
azreih123I have enabled every channel in the list, Master is not one of them19:52
shadeslayer!sound | azreih12319:55
ubottuazreih123: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:55
Mamarokhm, azreih123 I didn't follow the whole discussion, but what sound backend and phonon configuration do you use?19:59
azreih123Mamorok forgive me, but I don't know what that means20:11
Mamarokazreih123: when you go to the system settings -> multimedia20:11
azreih123Mamarok in the mixer when I open it it says "SBLive! Value[CT4871]20:12
Mamarokyou see your sound devices there, that's the phonon configuration, and there's a second tab called backend where you see what sound engine you use20:12
MakuseruIs there any way to have an option when you right click an archive for "extract extract here, extract to" in kde4?20:12
azreih123under Audio Output it shows 2, one is the SBLive! I just posted, the other is Intel 82801BA-ICH2  which is my onboard sound that nothing is plugged into20:13
MamarokMakuseru: depends on the archive, normaly just clicking on it opens ark20:14
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Mamarokazreih123: and in the backend tab?20:14
MakuseruMamarok: I dont want to open it.20:14
azreih123Mamarok in the backend it says Xine20:14
azreih123And a checkbox to show OSS devices20:14
MamarokMakuseru: you could configure that yourself I guess20:14
MakuseruMamarok: In kde3 when you right clicked, there was another tab for extraction options, and you could just choose "extract to filename" and it would extract itself to a new folder and you would never have to open up ark.20:15
Mamarokazreih123: ok, then you have the correct sound settings :)20:15
MakuseruHow would I go about doing that?20:15
MamarokMakuseru: let me check20:15
azreih123hmmm, guess I should have checked this first...I"m going to check and make sure it's plugged in all the way then....20:15
azreih123Yep, I"m a complete DOPE I appologze, that was the problem...BUT with it plugged in all the way I get some serious background noise, fuzz/whitenoise20:16
MamarokMakuseru: that works here in KDE 4.3 beta 2, I have all those options in the right click menu20:16
MakuseruHow do i check what version i have20:16
Makuseru?20:16
shadeslayerMakuseru: kde-config --version20:16
MamarokMakuseru: any KDE app, help menu -> about KDE20:16
MakuseruAh, ive got 4.2.220:17
MakuseruHow would i upfrade to 4.3?20:17
shadeslayerMakuseru: /topic20:17
MakuseruOh, lol. Thank you.20:17
shadeslayerMamarok: i think ive found the perfect browser for KDE :)..rekonq20:17
MamarokMakuseru: you should consider upgrading to 4.2.4 first, as this is a stable release, KDE 4.3 is still beta20:17
Mamarokshadeslayer: nice20:18
MakuseruMamarok: Does 4.2.4 have those options?20:18
MamarokMakuseru: I don't know, it's worth a try though20:18
shadeslayerMamarok: supports gmail,doesnt crash.....but i need to check it out of SVN to get it working :P20:18
MamarokMakuseru: see the topic for how to upgrade20:19
Mamarokshadeslayer: well, yes of course :)20:19
shadeslayerhehe...20:19
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azreih123I can't turn things up to hear it now, the whitenoise drowns everything out....20:19
shadeslayerazreih123: see the volume controls and adjust them20:20
Mamarokazreih123: all cables ok?20:20
azreih123Mamarok all the cables are okay now, everything is plugged in properly20:20
azreih123shadeslayer I'm messing with the volume controls now since I have ALL channels showing lol20:20
Mamarokazreih123: good, because a defective cable can be a serious nuisance in term of whitenoise20:21
shadeslayerazreih123: good luck...:)20:21
azreih123this is deffinatly going to be annoying20:23
azreih1233 of the volume controls will alter the sound, but none of them take away whitenoise, they all turn it up or down, that's it20:24
shadeslayerazreih123: turn down the whitenoise to 0 :P20:25
MakuseruI added the repo for 4.2.4(found in the topic here) and when i went to update, it says i need a key. But the page in the link says nothing about this.20:36
DragnslcrMakuseru- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3 has details about getting the PPA's GPG key20:38
shadeslayerMakuseru: see the signing key on the page20:38
shadeslayerMakuseru: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A20:39
MakuseruThank you, you guys rock.20:40
shadeslayerMakuseru: you mean we are rocks?? :P20:42
MakuseruYes!20:42
ghostcubeyoure always welcome to the olymp -_-20:43
chabelinuxhey some one can helpme!!20:45
ikoniachabelinux: what's up ?20:46
chabelinuxthe thunderbird no have conection with server smtp of hotmail20:46
chabelinuxonly received, not send20:47
BluesKajchabelinux, hotmail doesn't use smtp, you have set up hot mail to download to your server20:48
ikoniachabelinux: hotmail doesn't provide an smtp server that I'm aware of20:48
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slow-motionhi20:49
azreih123Mamarok okay, so I restarted my computer, now I have no sound, other than system sounds.20:49
BluesKajthunderbird isn't a client for hotmail20:49
chabelinuxyes, the pop3.live.com is enter, the out is smtp.live.com20:49
ikoniaI don't think MS provide that functionality - at least that I'm aware for20:49
azreih123maximise, shrink, open close things I get sound, played the startup sound,, but no sound from amarok or the web now20:49
chabelinuxok. thank you for lesson!!20:50
BluesKajjust use your hotmail acct , don't try to send thru thunderbird20:50
ikoniachabelinux: if it does offer that functionality it will most likley be auth before send20:50
chabelinuxok, than you for message20:51
ghostcubewhy should hotmail not offer smtpguys20:53
ghostcube??20:53
BluesKajikonia, some ISP are using hotmail servers , think that confuses some ppl20:53
ikoniaBluesKaj: ahh20:54
ikoniagodmok: don't want to be spam hosts20:54
BluesKajpophm and smtphm20:55
godmok0o20:58
shadeslayergodmok: yes??21:01
shadeslayerMamarok: uh...dont know what happened but arora just stopped crashing o_0...maybe it needed kdewebkit or it sensed competition from rekonq :P21:05
Mamarokshadeslayer: because you didn't install webkit with it? well, that' couldn't work well then...21:08
godmokshadeslayer: i was highlighted for what? well, not that it matters21:11
godmoksorry :)21:11
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hubar_hmm question, is there anyway to remove ubuntu desktop (along with the gnome stuff)?21:16
genii!purekde21:17
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »21:17
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ikoniashadeslayer: you're still using nightly builds21:19
hubar_err, but I still need at least firefox and scim...21:19
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shadeslayerMamarok: i had no idea..21:20
ikoniashadeslayer: you're still using nightly builds21:20
shadeslayerikonia: yes,but im not asking for support21:20
ikoniashadeslayer: stop discussing it in here then please21:20
ikoniashadeslayer: I made that clear to you21:20
shadeslayerikonia: i was reffering to arora21:21
blackflagHello, I want to mount a iscsi device that a users having access to it. Im trying in fstab: /dev/sdc5     /mnt/iscsi-san      ext3    _netdev,rw,users       0       0 with no luck. Can someone help21:21
ikoniashadeslayer: stop discussing it in here then please21:21
shadeslayerikonia: arora is not a nightly build21:21
blackflag?21:21
ikoniashadeslayer: your base system is a nightly build = no discussed in here21:21
ikoniaBluesKaj: what's actually the problem ?21:21
shadeslayerikonia: no,i have kde 4.2.421:21
ikoniashadeslayer: you said you where using knightly builds21:22
shadeslayer+as well21:22
ikoniashadeslayer: your base system is no longer a sane kubuntu build - it's not supported21:22
ikoniashadeslayer: please stop discussing it in here21:22
shadeslayerikonia: kde neon is installed seprately from a stable KDE realease21:22
ikoniashadeslayer: and all the libraries ?21:22
shadeslayerikonia: yes,all of them are different21:23
shadeslayerall are installed in ~/.kde-neon21:23
ikoniashadeslayer: no they are not21:23
shadeslayerikonia: yes they are....21:23
JontheEchidnathe config files are stored there, yes21:23
JontheEchidnaneon is a totally isolated installation21:23
ikoniaso there is nothing linked from the kde base system to the neon install ?@21:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: not affecting my normal KDE right?21:24
JontheEchidnaright, it has no affect whatsoever on normal KDE21:24
ikoniaor the base install system21:24
ikoniaso it's not linked at all to anything on the base system ?21:25
JontheEchidnaright, nothing on a base install would use it21:25
ikoniaJontheEchidna: so where are the actual libraries stored ?21:25
JontheEchidna/opt/neon or somesuch21:25
hubar_hmm question, I followed the instruction from !purekde, but I get this: http://pastebin.com/d4635cde221:25
shadeslayerits like a sandbox install21:25
hubar_What should I do now?21:26
BluesKajI don't have a problem ikonia, I was explaning that some ISPs are using hotmail servers for pop3 and smtp ,(pophm and smtphm)21:26
ikoniashadeslayer: could you pastebin the output of ls -la /opt/neon please, I'm curious to where these libraries are linked from21:26
ikoniaBluesKaj: no, I understand what you where saying,21:26
shadeslayerikonia: ill be glad to :)21:26
BluesKajok :)21:26
shadeslayerikonia: no such file or directory21:26
ikoniashadeslayer: where is your neon install located ?21:26
JontheEchidnait's in opt somewhere21:27
ikoniaBluesKaj: sorry - that was meant for blackflag21:27
shadeslayerikonia: project-neon21:27
* hubar_ has a rather legitimate Kubuntu support question...21:27
shadeslayer:_)21:27
ikoniahubar_: go for it21:27
ikoniashadeslayer: where is it installed please ?21:27
shadeslayerikonia: http://pastebin.com/fce7725821:27
shadeslayerikonia: the path was /opt/project-neon not /opt/neon21:28
hubar_ikonia: but I want to see the list of packages it will be removing.21:28
JontheEchidnahubar_: it should be safe to reinstall kde-icons-oxygen right after it gets removed21:28
ikoniashadeslayer: can you do /opt/neon/lib please21:28
ikoniahubar_: can you explain your question please, I didn't see the first part21:28
JontheEchidnahubar_: No clue why it's being removed in the first place though...21:28
hubar_ikonia: I don't want to uninstall critical packages.21:28
ikoniashadeslayer: sorry - /opt/project-neon/lib21:28
shadeslayerikonia: ls -la for the above?21:29
Mamarokhubar_: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it will not remove anything21:29
ikoniashadeslayer: please21:29
hubar_hmm question, I followed the instruction from !purekde, but I get this: http://pastebin.com/d4635cde221:29
shadeslayerikonia: http://pastebin.com/f426eebf121:29
GarpHi.21:29
blackflagI have a iscsi hd mounted. but only root has access to it. I want that users having also access to that mount point. In the moment the users having read only and I dont know to make it rw for users.21:29
hubar_Mamarok: well, then what does the !purekde say?21:29
ikoniashadeslayer: can you also do the output of the command "en" please21:30
GarpQuestion (intrepid): How to get a nicer desktop bar than the ugly default grey-black one? Thanks.21:30
shadeslayerikonia: just en in my home directory?21:30
ikoniashadeslayer: env21:30
ikoniashadeslayer: anywhere21:30
shadeslayerikonia: http://pastebin.com/f6bb6f84121:31
Mamarokhubar_: a metapackage is used to install package groups, it can then be removed safely21:31
ikoniathanks21:31
shadeslayerikonia: no problems :)21:31
waltzingalongGarp: right mouse click it, or get to the properties of it through system settings; pick a color, colorize it to match theme, transparent, or pick a backdrop pic21:31
Garpwaltzingalong: I'm trying... thanks21:31
ikoniashadeslayer: very interesting, it appears that you're setup to be currently using your nightly build environment21:32
hubar_mamarok, but !purekde says http://pastebin.com/d5254f85321:32
hubar_!purekde21:32
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »21:32
ikoniashadeslayer: is that what you expected ?21:32
shadeslayerikonia: yes,im using neon right now...i switch to 4.2.4 if neon stops working21:32
ikoniashadeslayer: how do you switch ?21:32
Garpwaltzingalong: how do I "pick a color" If I right click to get the setting, I only get some "plasmoid" refernbces21:32
shadeslayerikonia: same as switching gnome and kde21:32
shadeslayerthe session change thing :)21:33
ikoniashadeslayer: I do'nt see how that would effect your env environment21:33
waltzingalongGarp: plasmoid references in intrepid?21:33
Mamarokhubar_: that looks strange, metapackages don't remove anything21:33
ikoniashadeslayer: things like your PATH would still be the same as it is now ?21:33
Garpwaltzingalong: humm, you gave me a doubt here. How can I know the version? Thanks.21:34
hubar_Mamarok: hmm....21:34
shadeslayerikonia: well i think its about paths...kde 4.2.4 will use ~/.kde for refrencing configs21:34
shadeslayerwhereas in neon its ~/.kde-neon21:34
ikoniashadeslayer: things like PATH are not set by the desktop though, they are set by the base system21:34
ikoniaunless there is a post login script that alters them21:34
waltzingalongGarp: $ cat /etc/lsb-release21:34
Garpwaltzingalong: yes, it's intrepid (from /etc/apt/source.list)21:34
Mamarokhubar_: if you do aptitude show ubuntu-desktop it will show you a lot of packages that are needed for a Gnome installation, but removing that package doesn't remove anything but that exact package21:34
shadeslayerikonia: oh you mean things like my folders and files on my desktop?21:34
waltzingalongGarp:  and which version of kde then? help/about kde on any kde app21:35
Garpwaltzingalong: intrepid again, but KDE 4 :(21:35
ikoniashadeslayer: not quite, but you're understanding what I'm saying21:35
ikoniaor querying I should say21:35
shadeslayerikonia: you would have to talk to hsitter about those,i have no idea about them21:35
BluesKaj hubar_ , check this out http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde21:35
ikoniashadeslayer: intersting, thank you and my apologies21:35
waltzingalongGarp: hm i do not know how to change the bar with the earlier version of kde4 (like 4.0 and 4.1)21:36
Garpwaltzingalong: sorry .21:36
shadeslayerikonia: no need to apologise please...it was just a misunderstanding..hope its cleared21:36
MamarokJontheEchidna: does removing ubuntu-desktop really remove all dependencies? the package is set as optional21:37
shadeslayeri dont think so...ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package...just reinstall21:38
waltzingalongMamarok: not usually; just the ones shown there in the list21:38
Garpwaltzingalong: would kde3 works on intrepid? If yes, how can I get it? Thanks.21:38
JontheEchidnaMamarok: no, it would just remove the meta-package21:38
BluesKajMamarok, check the site i posted above , it explains some of the commands needed for a pure setup21:39
Mamarokthat's well what I thought, then the instructions in the link given in !purekde are wrong21:39
shadeslayerpsychopaths had the best command so far...21:39
shadeslayer*psychocats21:40
Garpanswer likely here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96369521:40
MamarokBluesKaj: BluesKaj then we need to change that !purekde factoid, the wiki page there is wrong21:41
BluesKajyes, i was about to suggest that, Mamarok21:41
waltzingalongGarp: sorry i do not know. which kde4 do you have on there?21:42
Mamaroktsimpson: ping21:42
BluesKajI know that those instructions/commands do work ...i tried them personally when i decided to go back to kde from gnome a while ago21:42
Garpwaltzingalong: 4.1.4. I would like to go back to kde 321:43
MamarokBluesKaj: yes, the psychocats one works21:43
shadeslayerBluesKaj: second that...21:43
Garpwaltzingalong: Could I downgrade to the precedent release of kubuntu ?21:43
BluesKajGarp, then you want what is called the jaunty remix21:43
waltzingalongGarp: it could probably be forced but i would not suggest it21:43
GarpBluesKaj: could you tell me more ?21:44
Garpwaltzingalong: then just reinstall, maybe.21:44
BluesKajGarp, it's jaunty with kde3.5 instaed of 4.221:44
MamarokBluesKaj: I'm not sure that PPA is still active...21:44
hubar_BluesKaj: that is one massive list. >.<21:44
MamarokBluesKaj: also, it is not officially supported here anyway21:45
GarpBluesKaj: then, I would perform an upgrade, not a downgrade, right ?21:45
BluesKajhubar_, yeah it's abit large , but copy and paste it and it will work21:45
MamarokGarp: if you still have 4.1 it is worth upgrading to 4.2.2 anyway, 4.1 is veeery old21:45
divobtechhi21:46
GarpMamarok: i dont care if it's old,  would a version: that works (stable), and if possible that is tralstated to Armenina.21:46
GarpMamarok: Armenian21:46
divobtechi am new here21:46
divobtechsomeone have an french kubuntu support IRC21:47
divobtechthanks in advance21:47
shadeslayer!fr | divobtech21:47
ubottudivobtech: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr21:47
BluesKajGarp, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty21:48
MamarokGarp: I don't know, what is the language code for Armenian, ar?21:48
MamarokBluesKaj: that PPA is down...21:48
GarpMamarok: hy.21:49
GarpBluesKaj: Thanks. Looks interesting.21:49
shadeslayerbrb...something up with my konsole21:49
divobtechok merci ubottu21:49
BluesKajok Garp http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-jaunty-kde3-remix-beta21:50
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* Mamarok checks the language pack for KDE4 in armenian21:51
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sopatrus_drummerde volta ao irc21:52
sopatrus_drummeralguem fala portugues ai21:52
GarpBluesKaj: the repository seems to be offline :(21:52
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hubar_hmm, what is a good way to monitor cpu/memory usage?21:54
shadeslayerhubar_: my superkaramba theme :P21:54
hubar_with kde4.3b221:54
BluesKajGarp, yes i posted another one21:54
MamarokGarp: you should check here: http://www.debian.am/translate/ for KDE4 translations21:54
shadeslayerhubar_: works with b221:54
Mamarokthey have a mailing list, so you can ask there21:54
GarpBluesKaj: thanks.21:55
shadeslayerhubar_: http://i39.tinypic.com/2qi8b50.png21:55
GarpMamarok: I had a look on the project, unfortunately, I cant help myself (i dont speak that language)21:55
BluesKajgarp , nevermind it links to the same pearson ppa , which is down21:56
GarpBluesKaj: yes :( no mirror of the deb pkgs ?21:56
shadeslayerhubar_: download it here : http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Simple+Shadow+Monitor+Mod%2BAmaroker?content=106287 if you like it or more themes at : http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=3821:56
hubar_shadeslayer: I don't need that many fancies, I just wanna see what's up if, say, my CPU usage had gone up over 70%.21:56
MamarokGarp: ok21:57
shadeslayerhubar_: have a look at kde-look.org then for your needs :)21:57
MamarokGarp: for sure KDE 3 seems to be fully translated, I don't know for KDE421:57
GILIARD_BRASILALGUEM DO BRASIL AI21:57
shadeslayerhubar_: also theres a bubble monitor included by default (maybe not in beta2,but in RC1)21:58
GarpMamarok: almost not at all, afaik.21:58
* hubar_ likes to use addon installer to check out kde-look.org stuff.21:59
MamarokGarp: hm, that's not good...21:59
shadeslayerhubar_: it shows next to nothing :P21:59
BluesKajMamarok, Garp ...bummer : http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/22:00
GarpMaybe go back to hardy is the right thing to do. Unfortunately, I spent quite some time installing pkgs, so reinstalling from s cratch annoy me...22:01
MamarokBluesKaj: I know, that's what I tell you since quite some time :)22:02
MamarokGarp: seems you have not much choice, but there is KDE 3 also on Intrepid, so at least you have something newer for the underlying system22:02
shadeslayeri still dont understand why people refuse to use KDE 4.x.....22:04
BluesKajMamarok, I was explaining why the URL is down and appears that it's rather permeanent , not just down for a day or 222:04
* shadeslayer joins #ubuntu-offtopic to investigate22:04
BluesKajshadeslayer, #kubuntu-offtopic , maybe ?22:05
shadeslayerBluesKaj: people there dont reply...22:06
shadeslayerive been there once or twice...wider base in #ubuntu-offtopic22:07
BluesKajwell, i doubt that ubuntu ppl want to discuss kde22:07
shadeslayerBluesKaj: but if its against the rules then i wont ask...22:07
shadeslayerBluesKaj: actually they do...alot of KDE people there :)22:08
shadeslayerBluesKaj: they just dont admit it :P22:08
BluesKajflamers22:08
shadeslayerhmmm22:09
shadeslayerBluesKaj: hypothetical situation : guy under 12 comes here for support,what do we do?? give it to him? or stick to freenode policy?22:10
shadeslayerBluesKaj: or is it just for registering nicks?22:11
BluesKajdunno , i'll help as long as he behaves  ...and how does one really know ages anyway :)22:11
shadeslayerBluesKaj: what if we ask him :P....22:11
BluesKajgo ahead22:12
shadeslayerBluesKaj: but i agree with you :)..as long as he behaves...22:12
GarpMamarok: kde3 is on intrepid? How can I use it? Thanks.22:13
hubar_hmm, how do I get kpackagekit to somehow query kwallet, instead of asking me with gksudo dialog every time when I wanna install something?22:13
BluesKajBBL22:13
shadeslayerGarp: one sec..ill get that for you :)22:14
MamarokGarp: there is a workaround somewhere, let me see22:14
Mamarok!kde322:14
ubottuKubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page22:14
Mamarokhm, not here...22:14
Garpshadeslayer/Mamarok: thanks :)22:15
shadeslayerGarp: google first result : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96369522:15
MamarokGarp: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96369522:15
Mamarok:)22:15
hubar_Question, how do I get kpackagekit to somehow query kwallet, instead of asking me with gksudo dialog every time when I wanna install something?22:15
shadeslayerthe all powerful google :)22:16
GarpMamarok/shadeslayer: thanks, I'll see, but looks thgat's finaly the same as we saw befire :(22:16
shadeslayerGarp: i think that is the easiest way to install 3.x...btw why are you not migrating to 4.x ??22:17
Mamarokshadeslayer: he needs armenian, and KDE4 is not translated yet22:18
shadeslayerMamarok: ah.. sad,really sad..22:18
Garpshadeslayer: language support/ stability / ugly look.22:18
MamarokGarp: the look is very subjective :)22:19
shadeslayerGarp: best of luck with the install...im going to sleep :)22:19
Mamarokbut that doesn't belong here anyway22:19
Mamarokgn8 shadeslayer22:19
shadeslayergood night....22:19
Garpshadeslayer: kde3 is clear and simple, icones on the taskbar are readable. In kde4, I've the impression of evolving in a gothic nigthmare22:19
hubar_Yeah, after a while you get used to the new look. :)22:19
shadeslayerGarp: lol...22:19
Garpshadeslayer: goodnight22:19
Garpwell, I ave to go too...22:20
Garpgood night everybody!22:20
hubar_And you can customize them anyway. :)22:20
hubar_nite garp22:20
Garphubar_: I couldnt even change the color :(22:20
Garphubar_: if you have some "kde4 theme that looks like kde3" I buy it :)22:21
hubar_Garp, ever tried to change theme?22:21
hubar_heh...22:21
Garphubar_: all the one I saw where same ugly grey and unreadable... But I have to go :(22:21
Garpbebye :)22:21
* defrysk likes the latest kde422:22
defryskeven switched from gnome22:22
defryskafter i dont know howmany yrs22:22
hubar_I like how well each kde application works together.22:24
* defrysk like the speed and innovative look22:26
hubar_I only use firefox now, the only GNOME app I use. :)22:26
Mamarokguys, this is off topic, please take discussions to #kubuntu-offtopic22:26
defryskMamarok, sorry22:29
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oscarhola22:31
zenerhello22:31
oscarhi zener22:31
tsimpsonMamarok: pong22:31
zeneris someone managed to make a RME HDSP sound card with pulseaudio under 9.04 ?22:32
zener(sorry for my poor english ;-) )22:33
defryskdoes kubuntu use pulseaudio?22:33
tsimpsonnot by default22:34
zeneroh, sorry, i didn't see that i was in #kunbuntu (i didn't see the 'k')...22:34
Mamarokdefrysk: if you only use KDE you should not use pulseaudio, not needed anyway22:35
ActionParsnippulse is a PITA22:35
defryskthats what I thought ActionParsnip22:35
zeneryes, it is interresting : if i switch to kde, i won't be these troubles anymore ;-)22:35
defryskbut zener .... etc22:35
ActionParsnipi switched from kde to lxde for less troubles22:36
phhActionParsnip: as far as i've seen, what sucks is ubuntu's packaging: it works really great on another distribution22:36
ActionParsnipphh: its the weakness of package based distros22:37
phhhum, some distros arenn't package based ?22:38
ActionParsnipphh: gentoo22:38
phhoh you mean binary package then22:39
ActionParsnipphh: precompiled binarys that require no compilation22:39
phh(for me an ebuild is still a package)22:39
ActionParsnipone package goes wonky and you will be denied any onstalls / uninstalls until its fixed22:39
ActionParsnipinstalls*22:39
Mamarokguys, OT!22:39
Mamarokdiscussion to #kubuntu-offtopic, please22:40
zenerbut when you want to compile things like vlc...it's hard for a newbie ;-)22:40
phhzeltak: not with a package manager, but listen to the boss :p22:40
ActionParsnipnot if yuo follow the readme and satisfy deps smple stuff22:41
ActionParsnipzener: can even use apt-build in ubuntu if you wish ;)22:41
zeneryes22:41
yoga2What is kfrb, it seems that my system is slowing down by it.22:42
zeneri just said vlc because a little time ago, i had to cross-compile for another cpu...it was hard22:42
hubar_hmm question, how do I change the setting in kopete where the left click from mouse opens up a chat window? Is there anyway?22:44
franq pasa22:45
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Guest94490comor22:45
Guest94490y quien me lo cambia?22:45
leooi, alguem que fala pt ai!!!22:48
Mamarok!pt | leo22:49
ubottuleo: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.22:49
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leoValeu!!!22:49
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franhi22:53
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ActionParsniphowdy22:54
Guest70987na22:54
costerodeho22:55
costerodela22:55
ActionParsnipyo22:57
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* gunner is new to ubuntu and has a few questions about administration settings if anyone could answer23:00
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Mamarok!ask | GUNNER23:00
ubottuGUNNER: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:00
GUNNERok23:00
ign0ramusanyone know how to effectively get rid of pcspkr in Jaunty?  I have System Beep at 0 in Alsamixer, and have removed the pcspkr module, but there's still a soft beep when plugging in AC adapter...23:02
GUNNERHow do I change administration settings so I have full access without having to login as root?23:05
ign0ramusGUNNER, that's what sudo or kdesudo are for23:05
ign0ramusGUNNER, you can edit sudoers to give your user more privileges, but it's not recommended23:06
GUNNERhow do I use sudo ? As it sits right now when I click "properties" on any hard drive it says I have zero space available and i can't even create folders because I'm not the "owner" (in properties the owner is defined as root and i want to change it)23:08
khaije|amaltanyone know how if the kde4 version of konversation is available in any ubuntu repo's?23:08
ign0ramuskhaije|amalt, there's a PPA for it, but it's 'experimental' and brings in a bunch of other things.  best to just get the svn version ;)23:09
khaije|amaltign0ramus: i'd used it in the past, it was pretty stable wouldn't you say?23:10
ign0ramuskhaije|amalt, i'm using it now ;)23:10
ign0ramusGUNNER, to change ownership, you would use the 'chown' command23:11
ign0ramusGUNNER, but are your other hard drives/partitions mounted?23:11
khaije|amaltign0ramus: do you have the ppa url handy, can't find it23:11
GUNNERI can mount and dismount and access the drives, they just act as if they are read only23:12
GUNNERhow do I use the 'chown' command?23:12
ign0ramuskhaije|amalt, here, but i wouldn't recommend it: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu23:12
ActionParsnipGUNNER: chown <user> /path/to/file23:13
ign0ramusGUNNER, here's a good guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions23:14
ActionParsnipGUNNER: or you can chown an entire folder and subdirs with: chown -R <user> /path/to/folder23:14
ign0ramusGUNNER, it's easy to copy and paste a bunch of commands, but it's best to learn what the commands are doing ;)23:14
ActionParsnipGUNNER: if the folders are not yours you wil need sudo23:14
GUNNERcool, thanks I'll read up on it, I don't want commands as much as I want to understand them23:15
ign0ramusGUNNER, that's the way, grassahoppa!23:15
Aloneafor the hardware people, can I safely assume I am in big trouble when the bios will not post and after removing all components (hdd, cdrom) and even the ram there has been absolutely no post, no error beeps.23:15
ActionParsnipGUNNER: man <some command here>23:16
ActionParsnipGUNNER: theres even: man man23:16
ActionParsnipGUNNER: a man page for the man pages23:16
ign0ramusActionParsnip, i read man pages all the time, but a lot of people find them not user-friendly :/23:17
GUNNERman meaning manual?23:17
ActionParsnipGUNNER: yep23:17
Aloneahowever power appears to be working (if cdrom is in, I can open it, fans are spinning on cpu, etc.) so either bad mobo or bios corrupted?23:17
ign0ramusGUNNER, yep "man pages" = manual pages23:17
sotomayor_can anyone here help me install ubuntu 8.10 hardy version lts on my laptop?23:17
ActionParsnipign0ramus: i know. i guess its because they arent pretty enough23:17
ign0ramusActionParsnip, just like people who don't like my beloved htop :'(23:18
ActionParsnip!info htop23:18
ubottuhtop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-4ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 54 kB, installed size 196 kB23:18
ActionParsnipi just use ps -ef | grep <whatever>23:18
ign0ramusActionParsnip, but you won't get the whole picture that way, but that's a great way to find a process :)23:19
khaije|amaltign0ramus: i can always pin it, but are the experimental libs really iffy?23:19
ign0ramuskhaije|amalt, the ones on the Konversation page - yes.  I made a mess of my system with them just yesterday ;)23:20
ActionParsnipign0ramus: true but its rare i need the whole picture :). Good to know though incase i do23:20
ign0ramusActionParsnip, it's just a prettier, handier version of 'top'23:20
ign0ramusActionParsnip, do you have pcspkr muted?23:21
ActionParsnipign0ramus: at the first install yes23:22
ActionParsnipign0ramus: god yes23:22
ActionParsnipign0ramus: i have a script to gut the system of extrenuous guff, install nvidia goodness and install flash plugin23:23
ign0ramusActionParsnip, i know... i've done it since Feisty, but i've done everything i can think of, and i still get a little soft beep when unplugging/plugging in the lappy23:23
ActionParsniphmm, i'd check sound alerts23:23
ign0ramusActionParsnip, i've rm'd the module, blacklisted said module, and have System Beep at 0 in alsamixer, and yet i still get the little beep23:23
ign0ramusActionParsnip, it's not part of kde sound, its the actual pc speaker23:24
ActionParsnipign0ramus: if you run: amixer -q set PCM 0% mute23:24
ActionParsnipign0ramus: see if it still happens23:24
ign0ramusActionParsnip, that i haven't done ^ ... lemme try23:24
ActionParsnipign0ramus: it just sets volume to 023:24
ActionParsnipign0ramus: i'm a cli geek23:24
ign0ramusActionParsnip, i know ;)23:25
ign0ramusActionParsnip, i have to restart X to test?23:25
ActionParsnipnar no need23:25
ActionParsnipjust plug stuff in, see if it happens23:25
ign0ramusActionParsnip, just plugged in AC adapter ... still the same faint beep23:25
ActionParsniphmm23:25
ActionParsnipamixer -q set PCM 100% unmute23:26
ign0ramusActionParsnip, let me see23:26
khaije|amaltit seems like ubuntu bollucks up repo ppa pinning23:26
ActionParsnipign0ramus: that just sets it all to full again23:26
ign0ramusActionParsnip, alsamixer still reports Beep at 023:27
ign0ramusActionParsnip, on every version previous to Jaunty "rmmod pcspkr" worked just fine... don't know what else has changed :/23:28
ign0ramusActionParsnip, well, at least it's very soft, and not that godawful screech that makes everyone in a library look up :)23:28
ActionParsnipign0ramus: yeah works here too. i also cut the wires to the stupid pc speaker too23:28
ign0ramusActionParsnip, that was the "fix" on some Debian forums i was reading regarding this issue :)23:29
ign0ramusActionParsnip, although, the beep can be helpful when signalling hardware distress/failure23:29
makuseruWhere are they Keyboard and Mouse settings at?23:30
ign0ramusActionParsnip, googling the error: "ERROR: Module pcspkr does not exist in /proc/modules" brings up many threads about this, but the fix is usually to cut the wire :D23:31
khaije|amaltanyone know how to pin a ppa repo? it seems like the names are the same so i'm not sure what to call it to identify it23:31
ActionParsnipign0ramus: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1139234.html23:32
ActionParsnipkhaije|amalt: how do you mean pin?23:32
khaije|amaltActionParsnip: using the preferences file in the /etc/apt directory23:33
ActionParsnipkhaije|amalt: do you mean you want to ADD a repository?23:33
khaije|amaltActionParsnip: no i've already added it, but i'd like it to be available but not automatically used (http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning)23:35
khaije|amalt!bot23:35
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khaije|amalt!pinning23:35
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto23:35
khaije|amaltit makes it easy to blend repos that might otherwise not play nice together with a high level of control and certainty23:36
sotomayor_i have a problem installing ubuntu on my acer aspire 5515 laptop i have a 32 bit windows vista but now i want to install ubuntu hardy version 8.10 L.T.S....after I get pass the linux kernel loading it says "udevd-event[1526] : run_program: '/sbin/moprobe' abnormal exit....Busybox v1.13 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built- in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built in commands. (initramfs)23:44
ByronHello all.23:46
khaije|amaltActionParsnip: ign0ramus: you can add that experimental ppa non-obtrusively by adding this (http://pastebin.com/m16d4a4fc) to your /etc/apt/preferecnes file23:46
ign0ramuskhaije|amalt, good info to know :)23:46
ign0ramussotomayor_, LTS is ubuntu only, and Hardy is 8.04... please clarify23:47
sotomayor_<ign0ramus>....well i dont know how to clarify i'm very new to linux/ubuntu23:48
ign0ramussotomayor_, firstly, are you trying to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu?23:49
jb_423:49
jb_tetranode23:50
jb_no thanks23:50
sotomayor_ubuntu23:52
sotomayor_<ign0ramus>.....ubuntu23:53
ign0ramussotomayor_, you will probably find better support visiting #ubuntu , but it does sound like a hardware issue23:53
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MakuseruEvery time i try to open kpackagekit my computer freezes. Does anyone know why this would happen?23:54
sotomayor_<ign0ramus>......well so far i've changed the sata boot options from the bootmanager and tried to do a cd check but i still get the same message....23:55
ign0ramussotomayor_, if you pastebin'd the output of 'lspci', someone may be able to identify a particular piece of hardware that may cause issues...23:56
ign0ramussotomayor_, what model Aspire is this?23:56
sotomayor_<ign0ramus>....well i cant because it's on my laptop and i'm on my desktop relaying messages with you all trying to fix the laptop...it's an acer aspire 5515 laptop23:57
harjot__ign0ramus: remember me :)23:58
ign0ramusharjot__, you are my favorite 12 year old punjabi!23:58
draikHey there ign0ramus23:58
ign0ramussup draik :)23:58
harjot__ign0ramus: LOL23:58
draikNothing much. Fighting with my desktop still for USB and Network support23:59
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ign0ramusdraik, STILL dropping connection?23:59
draikYup23:59
ign0ramusdraik, ergh23:59
ign0ramusdraik, have you tried the 2.6.30 kernel?23:59

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