[00:02] <Dragnslcr> GnuSeb- no idea what the point of the first 3/4 of your sentence is, but the first thing I would look at for converting audio formats is mencoder
[00:02] <Dragnslcr> !info mencoder | GnuSeb
[00:02] <GnuSeb> sudo apt-get isntall mencoder?
[00:03] <GnuSeb> install*
[00:18] <rythan> Is there a fix for Kopete's Yahoo plugin for v0.70.2?
[00:20] <gunslinger_> i can't use my yahoo
[00:20] <gunslinger_> please
[00:20] <gunslinger_> help
[00:20] <dev_null_> is there a cli command to reset the dns cache for kubuntu
[00:20] <gunslinger_> me
[00:20] <FloodBotK1> gunslinger_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:20] <rythan> You are not the only one
[00:21] <bazhang> !yahoo
[00:21] <gunslinger_> ok
[00:21] <rythan> bazhang I heard that no longer worked
[00:21] <bazhang> rythan, check topic in #pidgin
[00:22] <rythan> I use kopete
[00:24] <Dragnslcr> rythan- a fix got committed today. I already added a comment to the Ubuntu bug report about it, so hopefully a new package will get pushed through quickly
[00:25] <rythan> Hope so :) cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com is activing refusing connections
[00:25] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I think the last few servers got "upgraded" a couple days ago
[00:26] <rythan> Dragnslcr: Ah makes sense
[00:26] <rythan> So Michael Jackson is dead
[00:27] <bazhang> !ot
[00:27] <rythan> Great topic police
[00:27] <rythan> sad
[00:33] <bobito> Hey, I recently installed IPBlock on my computer, only to find that my comp is trying to access Tons of arbitrary IPs, ranging from universities to Paypal.  Is there any reason kubuntu does this, or at least a way I can figure out what process is trying to contact which ip?
[00:35] <Matisse> !mp3
[00:36] <bobito> can anybody hear me?
[00:36] <kaddi> bobito: try netstat -p in your konsole, it'll show all open connections with the program that has established the connection
[00:36] <robinr> bobito: what protocols?
[00:36] <Matisse> bobito, no
[00:36] <sp0ckk> Is there a kwin dev package?
[00:36] <bazhang> bobito, using kubuntu or ubuntu
[00:37] <bobito> I've got both installed, right now I'm running via the gnome gui
[00:37] <bazhang> your question was answered in #ubuntu
[00:38] <bobito> bazhang: yea, at the same time too : )
[00:38] <kaddi> what was the answer? *curious*
[00:38] <bazhang> same as yours kaddi
[00:39] <kaddi> bazhang: thanks :) thought there might be a better solution. ;)
[00:42] <bobito> Not to be a nag, but netstat -p gives me a list of pid and file names longer than will list on the screen, and no ips listed
[00:43] <bobito> I don't really know what to do with that, and the man isn't helping yet
[00:44] <bobito> output: http://pastebin.com/m340b7f0
[00:46] <kaddi> try 'netstat -p | grep "tcp"' to only list tcp connections or 'netstat -p|less' to view all entries (you can scroll down with enter)
[00:46] <kaddi> or pipe netstat -p into a file and open it with your preferred editor :)
[00:47] <kaddi> is there a flag for netstat to only list tcp connections? or is this windows netstat?
[00:49] <bobito> kaddi: thanks, that definately made it clearer
[00:51] <kaddi> if you only want tcp connections try netstat -p -t (for udp try -u)
[00:51] <kaddi> :)
[01:12] <sp0ckk> Has anyone here successfully got Compiz-fusion + Emerald working at all?
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> As far as I know, Compiz doesn't get along very well with KDE4
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> Since KDE4 has its own compositing, it doesn't really need to
[01:17] <sp0ckk> Dragnslcr, it can't handle Emerald themes though, and I have an emerald theme (that KDE4 doesn't have) that I want to use so I'd like to use Compiz/Emerald.
[01:22] <estabanbanban> hola
[01:23] <estabanbanban> necesito que me resolvais una pregunta de seguridad
[01:23] <estabanbanban> a ver
[01:23] <estabanbanban> el modem-router que tengo me lo dejó un conocido
[01:23] <estabanbanban> no me dijo nada de cambiar la clave del router
[01:23] <estabanbanban> y hoy he leído que con la clave de acceso interno al router y conociendo tu ip
[01:24] <estabanbanban> pueden entrar en tu ordenador
[01:24] <estabanbanban> es eso cierto?
[01:25] <ign0ramus> !es | estabanbanban
[01:25] <estabanbanban> ok
[01:25] <estabanbanban> a few years ago, a "friend" of mine gave me one of his old modem-routers
[01:26] <estabanbanban> but he never told me about changing the password connecting to the router
[01:26] <estabanbanban> I've read that with this password and your ip address a person may access your computer
[01:26] <estabanbanban> is it true?
[01:31] <Eternal_Sin> hi everyone
[01:31] <kaddi> hi :)
[01:32] <Eternal_Sin> I didn't know that kubuntu had a channel :\
[01:32] <Eternal_Sin> Well, I finally found it xD
[01:32] <kaddi> it has :) this is the offical english support channel. there are a lot more in different languages as well :)
[01:34] <Eternal_Sin> I used to have debian in this machine, but I wanted KDE4.2. I used Lenny and the packages were from SID, so I crushed the system (twice xD) so I put kubuntu
[01:35] <kaddi> hehe
[01:35] <Eternal_Sin> Is not bad, my graphic card is old so I only have disabled some settings and now I'm happy ^^
[01:35] <Eternal_Sin> Works quite well and C::B let me do my C++ homework
[01:35] <Eternal_Sin> all is fine xD
[01:36] <kaddi> another happy user :D
[01:36] <Eternal_Sin> yeah
[01:37] <Eternal_Sin> I used to have this version of kubuntu in my laptop, I'm gonna put Windows 7 and Kubuntu and erase Vista for ever
[01:50] <joshua__> Oh my dear God, Michael Jackson died!
[01:50] <bazhang> !ot > joshua__
[01:50] <joshua__> ubottu: you don't care? how insensitive!
[01:51] <bazhang> joshua__, please take chit chat elsewhere
[01:52] <joshua__> This is not just idle chit chat, this is the freakin king of pop!
[01:55] <joshua__> see everyone is in shock!
[01:55] <kaddi> how can i uninstall an old kernel? or is this something you just "don't do"?
[01:55] <Dragnslcr> joshua__- no, we just don't really care
[01:55] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- you can uninstall the packages
[01:55] <bazhang> kaddi, from the package manager if you wish, might want to keep at least one around though
[01:55] <kaddi> ah, yes thats pretty straight forward
[01:55] <Dragnslcr> Should be something like linux-image-x.x.x.x
[01:55] <kaddi> lol
[01:56] <joshua__> what? how can you not care?
[01:56] <bazhang> joshua__, please stop
[01:56] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'd keep one or two extras, just in case, but if you have 12 installed, you can remove a few
[01:56] <kaddi> yeah, I intend keeping the 2 previous ones.. :)
[01:57] <joshua__> what are you going to do bazhang kick me?
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> I still haven't rebooted for the kernel update I installed last week
[01:57] <joshua__> do it and the legions of MJ fans will destroy you for the disrespect
[01:57] <Eternal_Sin> xD
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> joshua__- if necessary, yes, and the ops are never in a good mood when they get called in for something stupid
[01:58] <joshua__> I hardley call MJ's death "something stupid"
[01:58] <Dragnslcr> The rest of us do
[01:58] <Dragnslcr> It has nothing to do with Kubuntu
[01:58] <Eternal_Sin> Diary, thousand people die in worse conditions, what about them?
[01:59] <tsimpson> let's move away from this subject
[01:59] <joshua__> Eternal_Sin: what about them? they are not MJ
[01:59] <Eternal_Sin> all people ar equal at the eyes of God
[02:00] <tsimpson> stop the discussion now
[02:00] <Eternal_Sin> yes sir u.u
[02:00] <joshua__> you guys are treading on my first amendment right to freedom of speech again...
[02:01] <tsimpson> good job this is not the US
[02:01] <Eternal_Sin> this is.... SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
[02:01] <Dragnslcr> So, about those kernels
[02:02] <tsimpson> joshua__: you have been warned, now behave
[02:02] <Dragnslcr> I think I'll be lazy and not reboot for the new kernel until I install the KDE 4.3 RC next week
[02:02] <joshua__> aye aye
[02:02] <Eternal_Sin> I prefer wait to the final release
[02:03] <joshua__> I have to go anyways
[02:03] <joshua__> RIP MJ!
[02:04] <tsimpson> yeah, you must go
[02:04]  * ign0ramus hands tsimpson another cup of coffee
[02:04] <Dragnslcr> The 4.3 RC should be the same as the final release anyway
[02:04] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, ideally, that's how it works
[02:05] <Dragnslcr> Assuming there isn't a uh-oh-something-blew-up bug
[02:06] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, is there a date for the RC?
[02:06] <dio_> hello0 everyone
[02:06] <ign0ramus> !hi | dio_
[02:06] <Eternal_Sin> !hi | dio_
[02:06] <Dragnslcr> Was supposed to be tagged this week and released next week. I'd think Kubuntu packages should be ready Thursday or so
[02:06] <Eternal_Sin> why doesn't works for me? xD
[02:06] <dio_> i just dicover the chat aftre 8 mont runnig linux
[02:06] <tsimpson> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule
[02:06] <ign0ramus> Eternal_Sin, there's a time limit when invoking the same factoid from ubotu
[02:07] <ign0ramus> thanks tsimpson
[02:07] <Eternal_Sin> well...cr*p
[02:07] <Eternal_Sin> I always do everything wrong xD
[02:07] <dio_> any help about rip dvd
[02:07] <ign0ramus> !rip | dio_
[02:08] <ign0ramus> well that didn't help :/
[02:08] <tsimpson> !k9copy
[02:08] <tsimpson> well k9copy is what you want
[02:08] <tsimpson> !info k9copy
[02:08] <dio_> i use genome
[02:09] <dio_> ok
[02:09] <bazhang> ogmrip perhaps then
[02:09] <dio_> got it
[02:09] <ign0ramus> hey BluesKaj
[02:09] <dio_> i love linux
[02:09] <BluesKaj> hi ign0ramus , what's up ?
[02:10] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, nothing much... i have fixed almost all my complaints in kubuntu, and now i'm kind of bored ;)
[02:10] <BluesKaj> my fstab & mtab are buggered
[02:10] <BluesKaj> no ntfs access
[02:10] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, those are 'fun' projects :)
[02:11] <Eternal_Sin> and what about code::blocks? C::B rules!
[02:11] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, gotta run. see you soon!
[02:11] <BluesKaj> ok ign0ramus , take care
[02:12] <dio_> any one from illinois
[02:13] <bazhang> dio_, check the loco list
[02:13] <dio_> loc?
[02:13] <bazhang> !loco | dio_
[02:13] <dio_> thanks
[02:13] <bazhang> dio_, there is one for Chicago to be sure
[02:14] <davidjheinrich> how can I tile windows in KDE?
[02:17] <dio_> thanks ubotti
[02:18] <panos4ever> to tile windows in kde go to:http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=916
[02:18] <panos4ever> this will help
[02:20] <BluesKaj> no windows access in Dolphin : an error occurred while accessing 'Volume (ntfs)', the system responded: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.PermissionDenied:Device /dev/sda1 is listed in /etc/fstab.Refusing to mount
[02:21] <judith> anyone got the wifi configured on the LG X110 notebook? I am having lots of trouble.
[02:22] <davidjheinrich> thanks panos4ever
[02:22] <panos4ever> np :)
[02:23] <davidjheinrich> ah, I use radeonhd open source drivers, so no Xgl/compiz for me...and also, I want to tile hem not just for looking at hem, but operations too
[02:23] <panos4ever> blueskaj do u have windows too???
[02:23] <dio_> i have problem whit evolution
[02:23] <BluesKaj> yes , on different partition
[02:24] <panos4ever> aha
[02:24] <dio_> i can get emails
[02:24] <panos4ever> mount your sda1 with windows
[02:24] <panos4ever> then restart your pc and mount it with linux
[02:25] <BluesKaj> windows 7 doesn't have an app that gives linux access
[02:25] <panos4ever> or u can edit the /etc/fstab
[02:25] <panos4ever> u didnt get it
[02:25] <panos4ever> mount with windows
[02:25] <panos4ever> and then
[02:26] <panos4ever> boot linux again and you are ready
[02:26] <BluesKaj> panos4ever, i have edited fstab and mtab , but theres' an error for some reason
[02:27] <dio_> goto virtual box.com ucan run windows whatever version under linux
[02:27] <BluesKaj> how do you mount linux with windows 7
[02:27] <panos4ever> yes u can do that too
[02:27] <liam_> Whats the package for Java?
[02:27] <panos4ever> go to synaptic
[02:27] <liam_> The what now
[02:28] <BluesKaj> no VBs for me , I had perfectly good ntfs access in dolphin until the last kernel upgrade
[02:28] <panos4ever> search for java
[02:28] <liam_> yea it doesn't detect it panos4ever, i need exact package name
[02:28] <dio_> virtualbox create vitual secon computer you can turn it on and off like regular window
[02:28] <panos4ever> goole it
[02:28] <panos4ever> google it
[02:29] <panos4ever> type:java debian package
[02:29] <BluesKaj> dio, I'm not going to do any virtual OS , ok so stop suggesting it ...I need to fix fstab and matab
[02:29] <liam_> hold on i think i might have found it
[02:30] <dio_> brb
[02:30] <liam_> I installed a package called 'Java-package'
[02:30] <panos4ever> hmm
[02:31] <panos4ever> are you new to linux liam?
[02:31] <liam_> Ok, spendid. Gone from having a screen which says Java not detected to having a black screen
[02:31] <liam_> Not new, but very rusty
[02:31] <panos4ever> w8
[02:32] <kaddi> liam_: try apt-cache search java in a shell. It'll give you the package name and a short description of what the package does. I think you are looking for sun-java6-bin or similar
[02:32] <liam_> Alrite
[02:32] <panos4ever> yes
[02:33] <panos4ever> nice kaddi
[02:33] <panos4ever> its like u said
[02:33] <panos4ever> this exact package
[02:33] <liam_> alrite got a few results going to give installing a couple a try
[02:33] <liam_> sun-java6-plugin <-- this one
[02:35] <dhq> i have a dell xps m1530, which has a built-in sound card ie;  in windows when i plug in the rear speakers in the mic port i have the option to choose rear speaker, how do i do this on kubuntu jaunty
[02:35] <liam_> Hm i got the t&c up
[02:35] <liam_> for java
[02:35] <liam_> but idk how to accept it
[02:35] <liam_> L
[02:35] <FloodBotK1> liam_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:37] <kaddi> liam_: what do you mean? the terms of use?
[02:37] <liam_> yea, screw it i'll start the installation again, don't think it  appreciated me scrolling pu.
[02:38] <kaddi> hehe, ok
[02:38] <dhq> did anyone answer my question
[02:39] <liam_> kaddi: wow rage, now it says directory is possibly in use
[02:39] <liam_> fml
[02:40] <liam_> ill just restart L
[02:41] <kaddi> good luck.. I can't really help you with that, sry
[02:45] <kaddi> is there a irc-app that combines the tab-function of konversation with "the possibility to split join/leave messages" of quassel?
[02:46] <liam_> kaddi: There's something with with dpkg
[02:46] <liam_> Which seems to be the problem
[02:46] <kaddi> dpkg?
[02:46] <liam_> yes
[02:46] <kaddi> did you try to install som package separately?
[02:46] <liam_> som?
[02:46] <kaddi> what is the exact message?
[02:46] <kaddi> *some
[02:47] <liam_> Well it's in italian, i shall attempt to translate
[02:47] <liam_> E: Dpkg is interrupted, to correct the problem you need to run sudo dpkg - - configure -a
[02:49] <kaddi> liam_: dpkg is the debian package manager. If it is asking for dpkg --configure this usually means that some installation wasn't completed the last time and dpkg is trying to finish this now. a stands for all unconfigured packages
[02:50] <liam_> thats it
[02:50] <liam_> because i exited out of the java installation
[02:50] <liam_> when t&c screwed up
[02:50] <liam_> So what happens next?
[02:51] <kaddi> try running sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:51] <kaddi> I would think :)
[02:51] <liam_> well it did something lol
[02:51] <kaddi> hehe
[02:52] <kaddi> it's trying to finish the installation
[02:53] <liam_> ok now it's giving me a load of bull.
[02:53] <liam_> It says it can't install anywhere
[02:53] <liam_> and to try apt-get -f install
[02:53] <kaddi> -f will force install
[02:53] <tsimpson> do what it says ;)
[02:54] <liam_> but if i do that, it says it needs root, permission denied and it can't go into an administrative directory.
[02:54] <tsimpson> use sudo
[02:54] <tsimpson> sudo apt-get -f install
[02:54] <judith> anyone got the wifi configured on the LG X110 notebook? I am having lots of trouble.
[02:54] <liam_> woo, it's trying to install it now :D
[02:55] <liam_> ok heres where it screwed me last time
[02:55] <liam_> the terms of use
[02:55] <liam_> how the hell do i get past this
[02:55] <tsimpson> press enter
[02:55] <tsimpson> tab to navigate, enter to "push" a button
[02:56] <liam_> i like your thinking!
[02:56] <dio_> get ubuntu unlished the big book cost $49
[02:56] <liam_> HAX i actually got past the terms of use!
[02:56] <achillion> hey guys. is anyone active?
[02:57] <liam_> ok, so that java almost done
[02:57] <liam_> now i've got a grey screen
[02:57] <liam_> although it says applet started
[02:57] <liam_> pretty sure a red x flashed for a second too
[02:58] <sandy_> I switched to Ubuntu 9.04 about a week ago.  The video quality (or speed) on youtube is substantially less than what I was used to in XP.  Any tips on improving this situation?
[02:58] <sunnydrake_nb2> sandy_: konquer + adobe flash works good
[02:58] <dio_> chnge your video cardsandy
[02:59] <achillion> hey guys. need some help figuring out something on KDE. glxinfo tells me "glx vendor string: SGI" - Hardware drivers manager screen confirms this by having ati driver "not in use" but under system settings it says i'm using Ati Radeon (fglrx). I was under the impression fglrx was the ATI propriatery driver. So which is it? (kubuntu 8.04 - kde 3.5)
[02:59] <sunnydrake_nb2> problem is in flash plugin itself imho..
[03:00] <sandy_> sunnydrake_nb2: what is konquer?  I will look for it in add software
[03:00] <dio_> kde 4.0 is bad try 3. someting else
[03:00] <liam_> http://pastebin.ca/1474965 - i get this upon my feeble attempt to load a java game, any suggestions?
[03:00] <sunnydrake_nb2> sandy_: konqueror default web browse for kde.
[03:01] <liam_> sunnydrake_nb2: any ideas?
[03:01] <kaddi> sandy_: are you using an intel graphics card? there are known regressions in jaunty for those
[03:01] <sandy_> sunnydrake_nb2: thanx  I'll give it a try
[03:02] <sandy_> kaddi: not sure, this is a 5 year old dell dimension
[03:02] <liam_> kaddi: http://pastebin.ca/1474965
[03:02] <liam_> :\
[03:03] <sunnydrake_nb2> liam_: not telling me a lot try official sun last java pacage fro their web site
[03:03] <kaddi> liam_ have you installed the other sun packages or only the plugin?
[03:03] <liam_> i can't use that for some reason, hence why i've been using sudo
[03:03] <liam_> only plugin
[03:05] <dio_> ati video card not running well under linux
[03:05] <dio_> get nvidia
[03:05] <liam_> rage.
[03:06] <kaddi> liam_: I think you need the other packages as well. I'm looking at my pc now, sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre are also installed along with the plugin package
[03:06] <sandy_> Konqueror.org ain't working...anybody have a trustworthy mirror?
[03:06] <achillion> any info on my question? just want to know why system settings says fglrx?
[03:06] <kaddi> liam_: but maybe someone knows better, I can only suggest what is insalled on my pc
[03:07] <dio_> i had rageon hdmi not working well,notw i have nvidia HDMI is works fine
[03:07] <achillion> sandy_: konqueror should already be installed with KDE if that's what you're trying to do
[03:07] <kaddi> sandy_: konqueror is already installed on your system. open the startmenu go to programs ->internet-> you should see konqueror there
[03:07] <liam_> kaddi:  what do you have installed
[03:07] <dio_> sandy install opera
[03:08] <kaddi> sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin apparently
[03:08] <sandy_> I guess I don't have KDE installed
[03:08] <sandy_> dio_: do you have better luck with opera than firefox?
[03:09] <dio_> got to go bye
[03:09] <achillion> sandy_: you could give opera a try. nothing to lose if you don't mind trying a new browser. i find it to be lighter than firefox in general
[03:10] <sandy_> achillion: thx for the tip...couldn't hurt
[03:10] <dio_> yes  the opera run better in some web pages for java ,if you have pronblem to view java scrip under firefox even if you instll java install opera and run opera instead firefox
[03:11] <sunnydrake_nb2> dio_: btw where did you get linux build of opera?
[03:11] <dio_> opera is web browser
[03:11] <achillion> sunnydrake_nb2: http://www.opera.com/
[03:11] <kaddi> you can add opera.com to your repositories, then you can install and update your opera through the package manager like all the other programs
[03:12] <sunnydrake_nb2> dia_: im a web dev opera is light but have some irritating page rendering issues
[03:12] <tsimpson> !opera
[03:12] <liam_> wow what idiot has an argument with his Linux and loses, i fail.
[03:12] <dio_> if you run kde4.0 you can have isues but not 3.5
[03:12] <sunnydrake_nb2> achillion: direct link? i searched site alreade only .exe file...
[03:13] <tsimpson> sunnydrake_nb2: if you're a web dev, you'll need to work around vendor issues
[03:13] <dio_> the best secure is run ubuntu 8.04 LTC
[03:13] <tsimpson> sunnydrake_nb2: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[03:13] <sunnydrake_nb2> thnx
[03:13] <tsimpson> dio_: Kubuntu 8.04 is not LTS (no such thing as LTC)
[03:14] <tsimpson> Ubuntu (base) + Gnome 8.04 is LTS, but not the KDE components
[03:14] <dio_> read well UBUNTU not KUBUNTU
[03:14] <tsimpson> dio_: hi, welcome to #KUBUNTU
[03:15] <sunnydrake_nb2> tsimpson: that's what i do but i hate to make fixes for 8.01 diffrenet for 8.03 and etc.. and in the end a W3C spec doh...
[03:16] <dio_>  sorry i should not promote ubuntu here
[03:16] <liam_> Screw it, goodbye dignity, time to follow a spoon-fed guide.
[03:16] <tsimpson> sunnydrake_nb2: I know, if vendors would stick to standards we'd save hours of work
[03:17] <sunnydrake_nb2> liam_: what's you problem?
[03:17] <tsimpson> and if some standards were sane
[03:17] <sunnydrake_nb2> tsimpson: :)
[03:17] <liam_> sunnydrake_nb2: Java is grinding my gears
[03:17] <liam_> its now 4:20am my time and i've been trying to install it since 2 lol
[03:18] <dio_> brb got to reboot my labtop
[03:18] <sea4ever> What command would make bzip2 recursive? ls -R | bzip2 ?
[03:18] <sandy_> Opera did not seem to fix it.  Same very jumpy picture when I view a youtube vid.
[03:19] <liam_> ok im totally out of ideas and tired and hungry L
[03:19] <sea4ever> Oh nevermind, probably something using for, I'll do it manually.
[03:19] <tsimpson> sea4ever: bzip2 only handles one file
[03:19] <dio_> you tube video are FLV  you need to get flash player to view videos from you tube
[03:20] <tsimpson> sea4ever: tar it, then bzip the tar
[03:20] <sandy_> I did get flash earlier for Firefox.  I would assume that the video wouldn't play at all if I didn't have Flash.
[03:21] <dio_> did you rboot your mashine
[03:21] <dio_> reboot
[03:21] <sandy_> no that could be it...of course!
[03:21] <sandy_> thanx, I'll do that and report back
[03:22] <licul> anyone knows how to install package dependencies for offline installation?
[03:23] <dio_> no offline
[03:24] <tsimpson> !offline | licul
[03:25] <tsimpson> see the link or !aptoncd if you want to use a cd
[03:25] <liam_> kaddi: it worked straightaway in firefox
[03:25] <liam_> dang konquerer sucks
[03:28] <liam_> now i can sleep
[03:28] <xisco> Holaaaa
[03:28] <kaddi> good night then ;) and tomorrow you can figure out why konqueror won't do :D
[03:30] <sotomayor_> join#ubuntu
[03:30] <dio_> good night people i just learn Micheal Jakson died
[03:30] <dio_> otalk to you tomorow
[03:31] <kaddi> good night
[03:33] <sandy_> I rebooted the machine and I can watch most YouTube videos decently.  I think the test vid was just really high quality.
[03:36] <sunnydrake_nb2> sandy_: i dunno if it's a plugin problem but in fact flash on my machine works better in konqueror that in ff..
[03:42] <kaddi> my audio just gave up again -.-
[03:44] <licul> tsimpson: thanks.
[04:00] <programble> so i hear your a bunch of MJ haters over here
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> tsimpson- got another one for you
[04:00] <programble> RIP MJ
[04:01] <Pici> programble: This is a support channel, not a discussion channel.
[04:01] <Pici> !ot
[04:01] <programble> KDE sucks too
[04:01] <programble> RIP MJ!
[04:02] <programble> dont you people care about anything but your stupid ubuntu with the crap of KDE?
[04:03] <programble> and your not man enough to kick me?
[04:03] <programble> you "request" me to leave?
[04:03] <programble> LOSER
[04:03] <Dragnslcr> G'bye now
[04:03] <programble> KDE SUCKS
[04:07] <plane> I cannot logon WWW.YOUTUBE.COM in china  ... who can tell me why?
[04:08] <Pici> plane: I believe that your country's firewall is blocking that.
[04:08] <plane> i think i need a proxy
[04:11] <i3ear> hello?
[04:12] <Dragnslcr> !hi | i3ear
[04:13] <i3ear> I was just wondering
[04:13] <i3ear> on your website
[04:13] <plane> hi     i3ear
[04:13] <i3ear> is there a way to earch for specific applications
[04:13] <i3ear> because I be a linux noob
[04:13] <i3ear> and a musician
[04:13] <i3ear> and I was wondering exactly what alternatives there are to
[04:13] <i3ear> the windows programs I use
[04:13] <Dragnslcr> http://packages.ubuntu.com I think
[04:13] <i3ear> like synthesia
[04:14] <tsimpson> !alternatives
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> Yup, that's it
[04:14] <tsimpson> not that...
[04:15] <tsimpson> !Equivalents
[04:15] <tsimpson> there we go
[04:16] <i3ear> Hmmm
[04:17] <i3ear> Am I righ to assume I sould probably make a fourm post or something? Because I do have questions
[04:17] <i3ear> should*
[04:18] <Dragnslcr> You can always ask questions here. It might take some time for someone to answer, though, depending on how easy the question is
[04:18] <tsimpson> if you have support questions, you can ask here, or in a forum or on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[04:18] <tsimpson> or on the mailing list
[04:18] <i3ear> cool
[04:18] <i3ear> whell
[04:18] <i3ear> I am a musician
[04:18] <i3ear> So
[04:18] <i3ear> VSTs
[04:19] <i3ear> generally work with linux? Are there stand alone hosts?
[04:26] <i3ear> *sigh*
[04:27] <i3ear> anyone have a link to the main audio editing program
[04:27] <i3ear> for
[04:27] <i3ear> Ubutnu?
[04:27] <i3ear> like the equivelent to sonar or something
[04:27] <i3ear> anyone/
[04:29] <BluesKaj> main audio editing program ?  ... give us a hint at what you want to do
[04:29] <i3ear> make music
[04:29] <i3ear> Something like Sonar or Cubase or FL Studio
[04:30] <i3ear> know what I mean?
[04:30] <i3ear> imagine GIMB but for sound
[04:30] <i3ear> GIMP*
[04:30] <kaddi_> maybe audacity is what you look for?
[04:30] <i3ear> I have audacity, it sucks
[04:31] <i3ear> it isn't powerful enoubh
[04:31] <i3ear> enough*
[04:31] <i3ear> But yeah something liek audacity, but
[04:31] <i3ear> hmm
[04:31] <i3ear> a good way to compare what I want is
[04:31] <kaddi_> have a look at these tools then: rosegarden or adour
[04:32] <i3ear> whell you probably know already
[04:32] <kaddi_> *ardour
[04:32] <kaddi_> na, not really.. lol I simply tried this site: http://www.osalt.com/cubase if it knows the program it lists alternatives to the given program
[04:34] <i3ear> cool
[04:34] <i3ear> how hard is it to install something on Ubuntu?
[04:34] <i3ear> That is not on the large "install packages" list
[04:34] <BluesKaj> yes , I've used cubase in windows some , I suggest you look at Ardour
[04:37] <kaddi_> i3ear: it should be easy, open your start menu, go to programs, go to system, then select add/remove. search for ardour. you should find it
[04:38] <i3ear> No I mean other programs
[04:38] <i3ear> that I will not find
[04:38] <i3ear> on that list
[04:38] <i3ear> like
[04:38] <FloodBotK1> i3ear: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:38] <i3ear> http://pianobooster.sourceforge.net
[04:38] <kaddi_> ah, it depends on the programs. some programs like opera or wine will offer a repository that you can add
[04:39] <i3ear> Whell, I mean what if I have to compile software?
[04:39] <kuros> i3ear: that program doesn't need to be installed
[04:39] <kuros> but generally it's ./configure then make then sudo make install
[04:40] <kuros> but every source file will have a readme or install.txt
[04:40] <i3ear> cool
[04:40] <kuros> the worst part of installing from source is dependencies but it'll tell you what you're missing if you are missing a dependency
[04:41] <i3ear> so, can I ask about torrent clients here, or is that frowned upon because it is linked to illegal things?
[04:41] <kuros> transmission and azureus are both in the repos
[04:41] <kuros> (for some reason we still package as azureus even though it's now "vuse")
[04:42] <kaddi_> what does vuse mean?
[04:42] <i3ear> Last time I tried Ubntu I quit because I couldn't get any torrent programs to work
[04:42] <kuros> i use vuse all the time
[04:42] <kuros> no problems here :)
[04:42] <kaddi> oh, vuse is the new name of azureus?
[04:42] <kuros> i need a good dictionary plasmoid
[04:42] <kuros> kaddi: yes
[04:43] <kaddi> lol, I thought it was some high end term for depreciated software or something :D
[04:43] <kuros> i think that term is "abandonware"
[04:44] <kirit> It seems that Dolphin doesn't show previews for files over 5MB -- is there a setting somewhere for that?
[04:44] <kaddi> yes, and I saw it today, give me a minute
[04:44] <kuros> just go to configure dolphin
[04:45] <kuros> it's under viewmodes-general
[04:45] <kirit> Ok, that was kind of obvious once you see there's a configure menu option :)
[04:46] <kirit> I do have another question though -- before jaunty you could set the maximum size for the desktop xrandr could use in the xorg.conf, that seems to have moved with the new X stuff. Know where it is now?
[04:48] <kuros> that one i do not know
[04:48] <mauri29> Guys, any suggestion to install vlc 1.0 through repositories ?
[04:49] <i3ear> Oh yeah, how much room does Ubuntu take?
[04:49] <kuros> mauri29: vlc is slooooooow on linux
[04:49] <kuros> i recommend freenx
[04:49] <i3ear> and what are the hardware usage differences between Ubuntu and TinyXP?
[04:49] <kuros> nevermind
[04:49] <i3ear> Or hell, XP in general
[04:49] <kuros> i'm thinking vnc >.>
[04:51] <kuros> mauri29: did you try adding the karmic sources to /etc/apt/source.list?
[04:52] <mauri29> no, looking for that
[04:52] <kuros> i3ear: linux will 9 times out of 10 always have a smaller foot print than windows
[04:53] <kuros> mauri29: you realize 1.0 is only a release candidate correct?
[04:53] <i3ear> Whell how small? Give me a general size for the OS here, are we taling 5 GB? 10? 25?
[04:53] <kaddi> mauri29: vlc 1.0.0 is not out yet, no?
[04:54] <i3ear> on a HDD I mean
[04:54] <i3ear> I only have soo much room on my HDD :(
[04:54] <bazhang> kuros, mauri29 you don't want to add karmic sources to an earlier release
[04:54] <kuros> bazhang: i haven't
[04:54] <kuros> he wanted to install 1.0 from repos
[04:54] <bazhang> best bet is to get the PPA for vlc if you must
[04:54] <kuros> without grabbing the .deb that's pretty much the only way i know of
[04:55] <bazhang> kuros, best not to recommend it either
[04:55] <bazhang> kuros, there is a PPA for it
[04:55] <mauri29> bazhang, could you give the PPA link ?
[04:56] <kuros> anyone want to get an openarena game going?
[04:57] <bazhang> https://launchpad.net/~kow/+archive/ppa mauri29 its rc2
[04:58] <kaddi> it should also have rc4
[04:58] <bazhang> kaddi, I stand corrected :)
[04:58] <mikel> does anyone know if it's possible / how to decompile a device driver (or get the source), rewrite it, recompile it, then re-install it
[04:59] <mikel> kuros: What's "openarena"?
[04:59] <kuros> basically quake3
[04:59] <kuros> lol
[04:59] <kuros> it's in the repos
[05:00] <kuros> daychange
[05:00] <yao_ziyuan> after i change screen resolution in system settings / display,
[05:00] <yao_ziyuan> the next time i start kubuntu it will revert back to 1280x1024.
[05:00] <yao_ziyuan> what could be possible causes?
[05:01] <mikel> yao_ziyuan: google editing the xorg.conf file
[05:01] <yao_ziyuan> well.
[05:02] <yao_ziyuan> mikel: my /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a very default one
[05:02] <yao_ziyuan> mikel: it only mentions nonsense such as "Configured Video Device", "Configured Monitor", "Default Screen"
[05:03] <yao_ziyuan> mikel: i know X now automatically detects monitor
[05:17] <what_if> has anyone else noticed their kbuntu system getting slower? Apps using 100% cpu, computer basically being buggy?
[05:18] <i3ear> so, burnign shit to DVD
[05:18] <i3ear> can linux do this?
[05:18] <bazhang> i3ear, please watch the language
[05:18] <what_if> i3ear: yes it can
[05:19] <i3ear> with menus and subtitles and alternate audio?
[05:19] <i3ear> I am a hopeless anime shutin here
[05:19] <what_if> you trying to directly copy a DVD menus and all ?
[05:19] <mikel> yao_ziyuan: well, I'm at a loss... but I really don't know much about Linux anyways...
[05:19] <i3ear> nope
[05:20] <i3ear> Burnign MKV, with all the little options with it, like alternate audio and sub titles, onto a DVD
[05:21] <mikel> Anyone know how to get the source code for kubuntu stuff? I know how to use apt-get soucr [package], but I'm trying to find the source for drivers
[05:22] <what_if> i3ear: never burned an MKV file so I cant recommend software for it, sry.
[05:22] <mikel> I have a laptop with a remote and want to rewrite the remote driver so that it can be used like a mouse.
[05:22] <what_if> mikel: drivers are in the kernel
[05:24] <mikel> what_if: where do I get source for the kernel? or can I get that like I can get the source of packages? Do you know where I can find info on doing this (as I imagine it's alot to type here)?
[05:25] <mikel> i3ear: If you really like anime, try kumby.com (full length episodes, youtube style)
[05:25] <what_if> mikel: package linux-source
[05:26] <tsimpson> or "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[05:26] <what_if> mikel: does the remote currently work? It may just need integration into X.org
[05:27] <bazhang> !info lirc
[05:27] <mikel> what_if: The remote works perfectly... sending "keyboard input" like it should, but I want ot find a way to rewrite it so that instead when I hit an "arrow" key, it sends the mouse X pixels in the respective direction
[05:27] <i3ear> nice mikel
[05:27] <what_if> bazhang: precisely
[05:29] <what_if> mikel: that is unnessecery since the system already is getting an input for every key-press. These presses just need top be integrated into the Xorg configuration. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-425660.html -- has a few config files to try out.
[05:30] <mikel> ubottu: Thanks alot...
[05:32] <mikel> ubottu: I thought that (lirc) was the "package" that I needed to mess with.. like it was a patch or something and not a driver I was actually looking for...
[05:32] <what_if> mikel: also, you may be ably to just run "lircmd" the Lirc Mouse Daemon which simulates a mouse from infared ...
[05:33] <mikel> what_if: If I messed with the xorg configuration, would that discern from keyboard strokes from the remote and those from the keyboard?
[05:36] <what_if> mikel: yes you could, but may have to remap keys. lircmd will do all of that for you though.
[05:37] <mikel> what_if: I want it to tell the difference between the remote and keyboard, so I think that means less work, but first I have to install lirc, which I'm a little hesitant to do since the main reason I wanted to do this was to learn how to rewrite drivers, but using the remote as a mouse would be cool too. :)
[05:40] <what_if> mikel: I'm not sure what type of a rewrite you want to do of a character device that is 100% operational. In fact there is not much you can do...
[05:40] <mikel> what_if: Ok, just went to install lirc and it wants me to select a configuration for my remote, by selecting the remote I have, however... my remote is not a tv or cable remote... it's designed for the computer and it's buttons send signals that are interpreted as keyboard input...
[05:42] <what_if> mikel: and you just want to use this as mouse input? Right ?
[05:43] <mikel> what_if: Yes, but the bigger idea is that I (a newb to Linux and to C programming) will learn how to rewrite a driver... :(
[05:47] <what_if> mikel: wow, translating keyboard inputs into mouse commands at the kernel level is definitely going to be a task
[05:48] <what_if> lircmd.c is 850-ish lines of code.
[05:49] <mikel> what_if: I'm so inspired... I think it's more than that though... becuase I specifically want to "intercept" the hardware input from the infared sensor and have it send mouse input instead of keyboard input
[05:50] <mikel> what_if: Do you have any good suggestions then? I want to do something that helps me learn about the real "core" of linux and helps me learn C programming. I'm converting from VB6 in Windows to C in Linux
[05:51] <what_if> mikel: you will need to translate the keyboard input (keypresses) into mouse-movement commands
[05:52] <what_if> mikel: if you download the kernel source there is a crap-ton of documentation in there. Should install to /usr/src/linux or something similar
[05:52] <mikel> what_if: I think I need to go a step below that. Where can I find directions for getting the source of the kernel, and replacing the one I have, with it (without even changing anything, just getting that)
[05:52] <mikel> what_if: Where do I find the source of that?...
[05:52] <what_if> www.kernel.org
[05:54] <what_if> ahhh, also here is a quick/dirty ubuntu howto
[05:54] <what_if> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[05:56] <what_if> and if you really want to learn linux, install a version of Gentoo linux. Uses a very BSD/Unix like package management system. You will learn a ton
[05:57] <mikel> what_if: lol.. at the help page it had a section "why not to compile a kernel" and the first bullet was "You merely need to compile a special driver. For this, you only need to install the linux-headers packages. "
[05:59] <i3ear> I don't have a blank CD, can I just run Ubutnu off of windows, and have it reorganize my partitions and all that good stuff?
[06:00] <what_if> yes, modules in linux (aka drivers) can be removed and inserted with the system running. These need only be compiled against the correct header files.
[06:00] <mikel> what_if: And it also says (whichh makes total sense) that basically, if I mess something up (highly likely) I'll need to reinstall the "system" from scratch... ok I'm going to google how to install Gentoo over Kubuntu or maybe something else geez this is a pain
[06:00] <what_if> i3ear: nope
[06:01] <what_if> mikel: well, if you mess it up and don't know how to fix it then yes, reinstall needed. This will be the same on all systems
[06:01] <mikel> i3ear: Windows has it's own partitioning management tool. Can't remember the name, but I do remember that it's standard and you can find the name by googling for it
[06:01] <i3ear> hmm, I still have my old copy of ubuntu, I think
[06:01] <i3ear> it is about 2 years old, will that work?
[06:02] <what_if> i3ear: it will, but probably better to use a more current so you are not dealing with old bugs that have already beem fixed.
[06:02] <i3ear> I don't have any blank CDs
[06:02] <i3ear> And I do not want to waste a DVD
[06:02] <what_if> i3ear: have a usb pendrive ?
[06:03] <i3ear> 4 GBs, but I have no floppy disk drive, and I don't know if my motherboard will allow for booting from USB
[06:05] <mikel> what_if: Thank you for all the help and time
[06:06] <what_if> mikel: you are welcome. If you do end up installing Gentoo (will take you a weekend) you will have a _lot_ more linux knowledge
[06:07] <what_if> not so much of kernel internals, but of how the system actually works. Linux From Scratch is the next-harder version from gentoo (I'm doing that next week)
[06:08] <what_if> and goodnight, past my bedtime
[06:11] <i3ear> Question, I am using Wubi to install
[06:11] <i3ear> on the install size, is that partition size we are talking about, or what?
[06:12] <i3ear> I mean like, is it gonan cut this partition into peices or what?
[06:19] <bazhang> i3ear, no, it will install in a file inside of Windows, that can be deleted when / if you wish
[06:19] <bazhang> i3ear, ie add/remove
[06:33] <husayn__> I have installed VMWARE PLAYER on Kubunu ...
[06:33] <husayn__> when i start it , it is giving me error : Kernel Headers 2.6.24-23-generic
[06:33] <husayn__> it is asking for Kernel Headers 2.6.24-23-generic
[06:33] <husayn__> from where i can get these modules
[06:38] <dio_> hello
[06:53] <jussi01> husayn: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:11] <dj-vapor> kubuntu rules
[07:12] <yao_ziyuan> want to disable gnome apps' sound events in kde4.
[07:12] <yao_ziyuan> gnome-sound-properties can disable them, but it also automatically starts 'gnome-settings-daemon'
[07:13] <yao_ziyuan> if there a way to disable gnome sound effects without running gnome-settings-demon?
[07:17] <dwidmann> yao_ziyuan: is there some reason in particular why you need that daemon to not be running, other than "I don't feel like having a GNOME daemon running?"
[07:17] <yao_ziyuan> dwidmann: it regulates every gnome app and can slow down performance
[07:18] <yao_ziyuan> dwidmann: for example, when any gnome app wants to display some text, the control will first pass to gnome-settings-daemon to determine the right font
[07:19] <dwidmann> yao_ziyuan: interesting. How bad is the performance hit? Very noticable?
[07:20] <ugur> hi all
[07:21] <ugur> how can i close a post i had opened in ubuntuforums
[07:21] <yao_ziyuan> dwidmann: psychologically undesirable
[07:21] <dwidmann> yao_ziyuan: My assumption is it's probably abasolutely required for the apps you're trying to run, in the way you're trying to run them ...
[07:21] <ugur> or mark the post as solved?
[07:24] <yao_ziyuan> maybe there is a config file for gnome apps to look at when they can't get settings from gnome-settings-daemon
[07:25] <yao_ziyuan> a default config file.
[07:25] <yao_ziyuan> never mind. i'll use gnome-settings-daemon
[07:26] <ugur> it shouldn't be that hard to close a post but i couldn't find it :)
[07:30] <naftilos76> Hi everybody, does anybody know how we can properly write greek letters in Kubuntu? Example: i can write 'α' but i cannot write 'ά'! This should be directed to the respective channel but unfortunately there is only one (ubuntu-gr) and nobody seems to answer! Can anybody make a guess?
[07:36] <agatha> morning, i have an issue.. i have a *.docx file but when i try to get it from the mail it's attached it says its a bin file. so i do not know how to open it
[07:40] <ugur> agatha you can use openoffice 3.0 or above to open docx files
[07:41] <agatha> oh thanks ugur
[07:41] <ugur> 3.1 is the latest version and works well
[07:41] <ugur> you can find 3.0 in the repositories
[07:42] <ugur> but i suggest you manually download and install 3.1 from sun's web site
[07:43] <ugur> you can find similar threads in ubuntuforums or i can guide you if you want
[07:45] <agatha> i have openoffice installed but when i saw the bin i did not know what to do with it
[07:45] <agatha> did not cross my mind to try and open it... wonder why that change in the filename
[07:45] <ugur> what version of ubuntu and openoffice are you using?
[07:45] <agatha> ubuntu 9.04 and openoffice... sec
[07:46] <agatha> 3.0.1
[07:46] <ugur> it should work then
[07:47] <agatha> jup it worked thanks a bunch
[07:48] <ugur> if you cannot open a docx file you can try OO 3.1
[07:48] <jussi01> ugur: please dont recommned to istall stuff just from websites if there is no reason to.
[07:48] <jussi01> !wfm | ugur
[07:50] <ugur> i see sorry then i changed it as you can
[08:31] <dsmith_> i cannot get glxgears to run
[08:31] <dsmith_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[08:33] <dsmith_> Here is a paste of my xorg.conf
[08:33] <dsmith_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/204011/
[08:57] <maelwryth> Hi folks, anyidea when the kopete upgrade will be available in the repos or if there is a repo to join for it? According to the kopete channel there is one being released to fix the yahoo server problems.
[09:12] <Makuseru> Hi, I have a problem. If i have Amarok open and playing music, then pause it and play a youtube video in firefox the video plays, but when i stop the video and unpause Amarok i have no sound and have to restart my computer to get sound back. Why is this happening and how can i stop it from happening?
[09:50] <Mamarok> Makuseru: that looks very much like flash hogging your sound, just try shutting down firefox, eventuall just restarting KDE, no need to restart the whole machine
[09:51] <Makuseru> Mamarok: Is there no fix for this? Its very inconvient to have to do that each time i want to watch something on youtbe.
[09:53] <Mamarok> Makuseru: well, what system do you have 64 bit?
[09:53] <Makuseru> 34bit.
[09:53] <Makuseru> 62*
[09:53] <Makuseru> 32***
[09:53] <frederick> hello everybody... someone has experience with ehcp on ubuntu server?µ
[09:53] <Mamarok> also, are you using the phonon-xnie-backend ?
[09:54] <Mamarok> frederick: you should ask in #ubuntu-server then I guess
[09:54] <Makuseru> Mamarok: I dont even know what that is.
[09:54] <Mamarok> Makuseru: go to the system settings -> Multimedia, the second tab should read xine as backend
[09:54] <FlipSton3> ok, tnx
[09:54] <Mamarok> FlipSton3: yaw :)
[09:55] <Makuseru> I don't have a Multimedia tab (I'm using KDE3.)
[09:55] <Mamarok> oh, then I don't know, sorry, I haven't used KDE 3 in ages
[10:12] <sgrover> not sure where best to ask this...  Anyone know how to extract data from a Dbase 3 (*.dat files)?  Bash script or php will likely be the target language (if possible).  Target is a) csv file for archiving, and b) mysql or postgreql
[10:12] <sgrover> Google searching is kinda challenging - some potential hits, but no silver bullet (yet)
[10:13] <Mamarok> ouch, can't you export it to a csv?
[10:13] <Mamarok> there should still be some convertors around I think
[10:13] <sgrover> I'd love too.  Any idea what tool to use?  (we do not have the native tools around to do this)
[10:14] <Mamarok> hm, I sure have some old db3 lying around here, but for dos, should work with wine I think
[10:14] <Mamarok> sgrover: no old db3 version at all?
[10:14] <sgrover> an old production app is generating daily "databases" that we need to pull data out of for more complex reporting on a daily basis...
[10:14] <Mamarok> that's public domain by now I guess anyway, since that time...
[10:15] <sgrover> patent wise, maybe, not copyright wise... :)
[10:15] <Kubuntu-studio> Hi guys
[10:15] <Mamarok> sgrover: I know nothing by heart, would have to google myself
[10:16] <sgrover> thanks.  I haven't found the right incantation yet.. :)
[10:16] <sgrover> er.  thanks for the effort I meant... lol
[10:17] <sgrover> it's looking like I'll have to write a script to make use of unixODBC.  Guess it's time for me to learn python then..
[10:17] <Peace-> xD
[10:18] <sgrover> or maybe just do a php cli script...
[10:18] <Mamarok> ruby :)
[10:20] <sgrover> guess that depends on the target server :)  at the moment it'll likely be a ubuntu lamp server
[10:24] <Mamarok> sgrover: well, php then I guess, or perl?
[10:40] <cato> hello, I have some problems with the configuration of global keybindings in kde4. When I want to use the Key with the KeySym "XF86AudioPause" in amarok, it says "the pressed key is not supported by qt" (not the literal english message, translated from germna by myself)
[10:43] <Mamarok> cato: did you check the settings?
[10:43] <cato> which settings?
[10:45] <cato> Mamarok: this messages appears while trying to set the keybinding within the amarok-global-keybinding-config
[10:50] <alexandrion> hy
[10:50] <lovre> hy
[10:50] <lovre> my firefox is rather slow when i open multiple tabs. So slow in fact its hard to work
[10:51] <alexandrion> can help me somebody? I need some compiz efects on kubuntu. know some package what can help me?
[10:51] <lovre> what could it be? i have a feeling it  happens when there are many animations on the page..
[10:51] <lovre> alexandrion: compiz-fusion ?
[10:51] <alexandrion> stil works on kubuntu?
[10:52] <lovre> afaik
[10:52] <alexandrion> on kde 4.2?
[10:52] <lovre> alexandrion: if you have kde 4.2, you dont need anything, KWin has it all built in
[10:52] <lovre> im using it as we speak
[10:52] <lovre> just go to system settings
[10:52] <alexandrion> ok
[10:52] <lovre> and set compositing on
[10:53] <alexandrion> thats what I need it. thanks :)
[10:54] <jussi01> alexandrion: yeah, system settings - desktop
[10:54] <alexandrion> I just installed kwin
[11:00] <cato> Mamarok: solution: QT doesn't support all common keysyms: http://www.koders.com/cpp/fidBBA1F1A57DD92C250C62A09F20576362991089AE.aspx?s=mdef%3Ainsert#L883
[11:00] <cato> 7win 24
[11:00] <Mamarok> cato: right, forgot that there was a problem
[11:36] <n8w> hey
[11:37] <n8w> is it possible to get beryl for kubuntu via the kpackagemanager?
[11:37] <n8w> coz it doesnt find anythin if i type in "beryl"
[11:44] <Mamarok> n8w: you don't need Compiz in KDE4, Kwin does the compositing
[11:45] <admincs> hi all
[11:45] <n8w> Mamarok: thx..
[11:45] <shadeslayer> admincs: hi
[11:45] <admincs> how are ta ??
[11:46] <Mamarok> n8w: yaw :)
[11:46]  * admincs 
[11:46] <Mamarok> admincs: do you have a question?
[11:47] <n8w> Mamarok: well ur sayin that i dont need that compiz thing, but where do i enable all the effects?
[11:47] <callumitus> no question ... just trying to find a list of irc servers ...
[11:47] <Mamarok> n8w: go to systemsettings -> Desktop, and enable the desktop effects
[11:47] <Mamarok> callumitus: well, you will not find lists here, this is a support channel
[11:48] <callumitus> i understand, its the only chatroom in the only server thats currently listed on my client
[11:50] <n8w> Mamarok: heh,omg im stupid ...thx man:)
[11:52] <gunslinger_> bwahahahaahahahaaa
[11:55] <Mamarok> n8w: yaw :)
[11:56] <Mirinodel> Bonjour j'ai un problème sur mon Kubuntu T.T J'ai paumé Kpackages (donc j'utilise apt-get pour installer) et j'arrive pas à mettre firfox T.T Quelqu'un peut il m'aider ? (Evité le RTFM please T.T)
[11:56] <Mirinodel> evitez*
[11:59] <bazhang> !fr | Mirinodel
[12:00] <Mirinodel> Ok
[12:00] <Mirinodel> Thanks
[12:00] <bazhang> you're welcome :)
[12:15] <Makuseru> Hi, I have a problem. If i have Amarok open and playing music, then pause it and play a youtube video in firefox the video plays, but when i stop the video and unpause Amarok i have no sound and have to restart my computer to get sound back. Why is this happening and how can i stop it from happening?
[12:15] <ka> How do I follow windows symlinks in ubuntu? I keep getting asked which app I want to open the *.lnk file with.
[12:17] <ka> Makuseru: I would like to know why that happens too. I bet it has something to to with pulseaudio, but I dont really know.
[12:17] <jussi01> Makuseru: have you got pulse audio installed? if so, try uninstalling it...
[12:17] <Makuseru> jussi01: Im not sure, how can i check.
[12:17] <ka> jussi01: Will ALSA take over then?
[12:17] <jussi01> phonon...
[12:18] <jussi01> Makuseru: sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[12:20] <Makuseru> jussi01: alrught.
[12:20] <Makuseru> alright*
[12:20] <jussi01> Makuseru: let me know if that fixes it... :D
[12:20] <Makuseru> Ill try, hold on.
[12:20] <Makuseru> I think i need to restart first, sound was already broke.
[12:23] <Makuseru> jussi01: Nope, didnt work/.
[12:24] <vbgunz> how do I get rid of the little notification icon in the KDE4 system tray?
[12:24] <jussi01> Makuseru: but you did have pulse installed previously?
[12:24] <jussi01> vbgunz: which one?
[12:24] <Makuseru> jussi01: I suppose. I dont remeber installing it, but that purge removed it.
[12:24] <vbgunz> the little blue i
[12:25] <vbgunz> its stuck in the tray
[12:25] <vbgunz> it doesn't open
[12:25] <jussi01> Makuseru: yeah, IM guessing you either dist upgraded or installed from dvd
[12:25] <vbgunz> I got rid of it... to do it I had to close the system tray and reopen it
[12:26] <Mamarok> vbgunz: you can, but that is the notification information, and it will pop up notifications when something is happening in the system, like file copying, choqok messages, etc
[12:26] <Makuseru> jussi01: No, I installed fresh from a cd.
[12:26] <Mamarok> vbgunz: so if you remove it you will have no more system information...
[12:26] <vbgunz> Mamarok: yeah *but* lately its been just getting stuck in the system tray... in other words, it pops up but never goes away and I cannot open it
[12:27] <Mamarok> vbgunz: you don't understand: it is empty, but will pop up notifications when needed
[12:27] <Mamarok> so if you disable it you will have no notifications anymore
[12:28] <vbgunz> Mamarok: you dont understand. its a bug. shouldn't that blue notification icon pop up only when they're is something to notify me about? when I am done noticing, it is suppose to go away. but worse, I click on the blue icon and *nothing* happens, I appear not to get any more notifications. it appears stuck
[12:28] <Mamarok> vbgunz: no, it is intended like this, not a bug
[12:29] <Mamarok> it probably crashed because you tried to remove it there, you need to do this in the system polidies
[12:30] <Mamarok> policies*
[12:31] <ka> Mamarok: I dont have the notification icon when there are no notifications. Sounds like vbgunz is experiencing a bug.
[12:32] <vbgunz> yeah ka, exactly
[12:33] <ka> jussi01: I didn't have pulse installed but the behaviour is still broken like Makuseru described.
[12:33] <vbgunz> I dont have it when there are no notifications. I am stuck with an "i" in the system tray and when I click for the notice nothing happens. I have a little "i' stuck in my tray with nothing to notify about
[12:38] <Mamarok> ka: this is in kde 4.3 beta 2 only, not in 4.2.x
[12:39] <laz0r> hi, does anyone now if there are packages available for jaunty which fix this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186710
[12:39] <Mamarok> and again, the I stays on here and it doesn't disturb me. It pops up comments when needed, lese just ignore it, why is that a bug?
[12:39] <Mamarok> less*
[12:40] <ka> Mamarok: ? I dont understand?
[12:40] <Mamarok> ka: the fact that it stays visible is particular to KDE 4.3 IMHO
[12:41] <ka> ah ok. Then it may not be a bug after all.
[12:42] <ka> Makuseru: Try it again it worked for me...
[12:43] <Makuseru> ka: Try what again?
[12:43] <ka> Makuseru: the sound thingy I mean
[12:43] <Makuseru> Its broke.
[12:43] <Makuseru> Right now.
[12:43] <ka> Now for the ultimate test... Skype...
[12:43] <Makuseru> Uninstalling that didnt work.
[12:44] <liam_> Anyone know how to search the sudo cache for MSN Messenger?
[12:45] <ka> Makuseru: Go to Systemsetting/Multimedia/make sure pulse is not on top
[12:45] <Makuseru> ka: I have KDE3, i dont have a multimedia tab.
[12:45] <Mamarok> ka: he also needs to remove .kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc then restart KDE
[12:46] <ka> Aha. Then I really dont know
[12:46] <Mamarok> ah, right, that's the problem, Makuseru, you should state that at the very beginning of your questions...
[12:46] <Makuseru> Mamarok: I didnt think it mattered.
[12:47] <Mamarok> makeit matters always to know what version the user has, everything else is guessing
[12:47] <Makuseru> Its not like im not using 9.04 though.
[12:47] <Mamarok> Makuseru: ^^^sorry, typo
[12:47] <Mamarok> Makuseru: we don not give support for KDE 3 on Jaunty, check with the author of the PPA
[12:48] <ka> Makuseru: Since upgrades are free we tend to assume everyone is on latest stabel version unless otherwise specified...
[12:48] <Mamarok> it's a private initiative and not an official release
[12:48] <Makuseru> There seem to be quite a few kde3 problems. I'd like to use KDE4 to fix them all, but its just horrible.
[12:48] <ka> Makuseru: What do you think is so terrible?
[12:49] <Mamarok> Makuseru: well, you need to make your mind up then what you want to use, KDE4 works fine for most of us and it's getting better every day
[12:49]  * ka is earnestly interested
[12:49] <Makuseru> ka: Everything. Plasma, widgits, they are just so bulky and akward to use.
[12:49] <Mamarok> ka: we should take this to #kubuntu-offtopic, it's not support related
[12:50] <Mamarok> Makuseru: see my comment above to ka
[12:50] <Makuseru> It took me ages to just figure out how to move the panel bar to move to the top of the screen. And i still cant figure out how to move things how id like them to be in the panel.
[12:51] <liam_> Anyone know how to search the sudo cache for MSN Messenger?
[12:51] <Mamarok> Makuseru: please, come to #kubuntu-offtopic, this is OT here
[12:51] <Mamarok> liam_: sudo cache?
[12:52] <ka> Mamarok: I dont agree, I have problems with the plasmapanels to. the default one on the bottom works fine. trying to put one on the side is a pain and if anyone sees this post and can explain to e here I would be interested to know.
[12:52] <ka> e=me
[12:52] <Mamarok> ka: if it is support related, no problem, but discussion does not belong here
[12:53] <Mamarok> ka: are you on 4.2.2 or such?
[12:55] <ka> where do I see my kde4 versionnumer.
[12:56] <Tm_T> ka: on ~every application: help > about
[12:56] <Mamarok> ka: open dolphin and go to the Help menu, about KDE
[12:56] <Mamarok> Tm_T: :)
[12:57] <ka> Mamarok: kde 4.2.4
[12:57] <Tm_T> or, you could write to konsole, for example, "konqueror --version" which will print stuff like Konqueror: 4.3.60 (KDE 4.3.60 (KDE 4.4 >= 20090624))
[12:57] <Mamarok> right, there have been substantial improvements in KDE 3 so far, but Kubuntu still only has beta 2 packages
[12:57] <Tm_T> s/3/4.3/
[12:58] <Mamarok> but as KDE 4.3 final is due early July it will end up quite fast in the bacports I think
[12:58] <Tm_T> aye
[12:58] <Mamarok> backports*
[12:58] <Mamarok> Tm_T: you use trink?
[12:58] <Tm_T> Mamarok: I ~always use trunk (:
[13:02] <altrortla> hello... please I don't remember what is the program to "download" entire sites and browse them of line.... somebody can halp me?
[13:03] <altrortla> may be httrack???
[13:03] <Peace-> webhttp
[13:04] <Peace-> some like that?
[13:04] <Peace-> altrortla: i think right htttrack something
[13:04] <Peace-> webhtttrack
[13:04] <Peace-> bah
[13:04] <altrortla> yes
[13:04] <altrortla> it's a mix
[13:04] <altrortla> .-)
[13:05] <Mamarok> !enter | altrortla
[13:06] <altrortla> ok
[13:06] <Mamarok> ditto for Peace- :)
[13:34] <liam_> Is it possible to get MSN Messenger on Kubuntu?
[13:36] <Mamarok> liam_: I think you can use it with Kopete or Pidgin, moment
[13:36] <Mamarok> !msn
[13:36] <liam_> Don't really get how Kopete works tho >.<
[13:37] <Mamarok> !info kopete
[13:37] <Mamarok> you need to install it first I think, then add your msn account to the settings
[13:37] <liam_> I entered my WLS info but after connecting i don't see my contacts or anything
[13:41] <liam_> !pidgin
[13:47] <liam_> !How can i get flashplayer on Kubuntu?
[13:47] <liam_> oops
[13:47] <kiran> .deb file  is available in net
[13:48] <liam_> I have that, but got no idea what to do with it.
[13:48] <kiran> double click
[13:48] <liam_> mm
[13:48] <liam_> Then it says 'Choose application'
[13:48] <kiran> or open with package manager
[13:48] <liam_> I would do that if i could find it.
[13:48] <kiran> hm
[13:49] <liam_> Found it in /usr/bin/
[13:49] <Tm_T> !flash | liam_
[13:50] <liam_> Di
[13:50] <liam_> Don't worry about it i got it now.
[13:51] <kiran> ping liam
[13:54] <liam_> How can i install the WMV plugin?
[13:59] <nova> try playing wmv file...then it will say plugins required...and will ask for search for plugins..click yes..it will automatically search and install...
[13:59] <nova> this is what i do for ubuntu
[13:59] <nova> dont know about kubuntu
[14:00] <Pici> liam_: The kubuntu-restricted-extras package installs that
[14:00] <liam_> O, how may I obtain this prestigious package? ;)
[14:03] <Pici> liam_:from a terminal:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:11] <nova> how can i send a file?
[14:11] <nova> or receive?
[14:11] <nova> F1
[14:11] <microtech> send or receive a file?
[14:11] <microtech> ftp...
[14:12] <Pici> f1?
[14:12] <nova> i mean thru irc?
[14:12] <Pici> Do you?
[14:12] <nova> ???
[14:13] <nova> do u wat?
[14:13] <Pici> nova: Do you mean through IRC?
[14:13] <nova> yup
[14:13] <nova> thru irc
[14:14] <liam_> Anyone know why my youtube isn't playing sound?
[14:14] <Pici> nova: dcc typicially, but it may require your router to forward ports
[14:15] <sp0ckk> How can I stop Kopete from displaying that rather annoying box above the system tray icon when someone sends me a message?
[14:16] <Dragnslcr> sp0ckk- Settings -> Configure Notifications
[14:16] <Dragnslcr> A lot of KDE applications use the same notifications system
[14:17] <sp0ckk> Dragnslcr, thank you. what a pain. I'm pretty new to KDE. I used to hate it to be honest, but to be honest it's growing on me.
[14:17] <sp0ckk> it's actually quite a nice dm
[14:17] <Dragnslcr> KDE4 has gotten really nice since 4.2.0
[14:17] <Dragnslcr> And 4.3.0 is due out in a couple weeks
[14:18] <replman> Hi! Kubuntu 9.04: Since more than a week i have 4 blocked packages in the software update: linux-headers-generic, linux-restricted-modules-generic, linux-generic and linux-image-generic. How to fix that? Do you also have this problems?
[14:18] <replman> It's a 64-bit kubuntu, if this matters
[14:18] <liam_> Anyone know why my youtube isn't playing sound?
[14:18] <sp0ckk> Dragnslcr, what are the chances in 4.3? anything decent?
[14:19] <Dragnslcr> replman- yeah, if you want to install the new kernel, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:20] <peabody> I'm using Kubuntu 9.04 and I was getting no sound in Flash, but everything else worked fine. I followed this guide :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 uninstalling the applications it said, I had to install pulseaudiodaemon because it was not installed and I followed trough part A and C. I've restarted, and I still have audio in my other applications, but nothing in flash.
[14:20] <ubsafder> how can i resize a partition sda1 from the comand line to take entire disk sda ?
[14:20] <Dragnslcr> sp0ckk- http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3-beta2.php has some of the changes
[14:20] <peabody> ubsafder: use gparted from a live cd
[14:20] <ubsafder> it is an ext3 partition
[14:20] <replman> Dragnslcr: Ok, i'll try, thanks
[14:21] <ubsafder> only fdisk sees the partition
[14:22] <Dragnslcr> ubsafder- you can try using parted from a shell, but gparted or partitionmanager would be a lot easier
[14:22] <peabody> ubsafder: I've done this a dozen times in the last month and parted from the shell is a nightmare
[14:22] <peabody> you REALLY want to boot to a  livecd and use gparted
[14:27] <sp0ckk> Dragnslcr, look nice. i'm looking forward to the sliding windows when taking focus away feature :)
[14:28] <sp0ckk> hmmm isn't there an EVE Online Linux client?
[14:28] <Freyr> i have 4 blocked updates. how can i unblock those updates or remove it from my updates list ?
[14:29] <sp0ckk> frankS2, good question. something i want to do too
[14:42] <liam_> Can anyone tell me why sound is not playing through my USB headset?
[14:42] <liam_> Only through laptop speakers
[14:57] <sugalo> how can i know if i have a 32-bit or a 64-bit platform ?
[14:58] <m_tadeu> hi everyone....what is the openoffice channel?
[14:59] <Pici> m_tadeu: #openoffice.org
[14:59] <m_tadeu> ahhh thanks
[15:02] <kaddi> sugalo: uname -m could give you that information, i think
[15:02] <berg> Greetings everyone
[15:03] <sugalo> kaddi: thanks
[15:08] <berg> Anybody around who could give me a hand on the network managment applet - Im unable to change my connection settings from dhcp to static ip
[15:09] <makuseru> Can you not burn a CD ISO to a DVD?
[15:14] <berg> anybody around - need some help with the network widget in jaunty
[15:15] <sp0ckk> "/tmp/vmware-config1/vmmon-only/./include/compat_semaphore.h:5:27: error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory" -- any ideas what I'm missing here?
[15:18] <berg> me feels like i need to learn borg to communicate with the hive
[15:21] <BluesKaj> berg , i recommend Wicd , more stable with better options
[15:22] <BluesKaj> berg ,network widget is unstable
[15:22] <berg> ah ok
[15:23] <berg> anything i need to take care about before switching to wicd
[15:28] <BluesKaj> berg , wicd will over ride the network widget , not to worry
[15:30] <berg> thanks a lot blue
[15:35] <sp0ckk> OK so thus far, I have a nice Kubuntu setup. I want to be able to restore to this exact point with ease in the future... software suggestions for making an image/backup for easy restore?
[15:49] <captmiddy> sp0ckk: how big?
[15:49] <captmiddy> when I say that how big is your partition that you want to backup
[15:50] <captmiddy> and do you want to be able to restore it from the backup directly is another question
[15:51] <captmiddy> partimage may be a good choice for you in any case
[16:01] <tyler_d_> I have a tough question.... the desktop in kubuntu has a spot for notes.... where is this information saved, what is the name of that application/widget?
[16:01] <captmiddy> you mean the plasma note?
[16:01] <captmiddy> little yellow sticky?
[16:01] <tyler_d_> yes
[16:02] <kaddi> wha you type ni the plasmoid is saved in the plasmaconfig under .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[16:03] <tyler_d_> ty kaddi
[16:03] <captmiddy> There is also knotes
[16:04] <captmiddy> which allows you to have multiple notes and then you can see them from kontact
[16:04] <tyler_d_> nope, this is it, found the info
[16:04] <tyler_d_> :)
[16:13] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Hey how do I see my Windows Machine's network shares?
[16:16] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Can someone here give me a hand? I need to access my network shares
[16:21] <captmiddy> in Konqueror: smb://server/share/
[16:21] <captmiddy> und3rgr0undz3r0: that was for you sorry
[16:31] <BluesKaj> captmiddy, he could use dolphin /places/ntfs volume
[16:34] <max____> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 9.04, is there no add/remove like in 8.04?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> max____, install adept
[16:38] <max____> BluesKaj: Thanks,.
[16:41] <max____> What would cause Adept Add/Remove to not see some programs I have installed?
[16:42] <zero___> captmiddy: so lets say I click on network
[16:42] <zero___> and NOTHING shows up
[16:42] <BluesKaj> if you didn't use a package manager to install them , sometimes they won't be listed or theyt are listed with a slightly different name than you are entering
[16:43] <max____> BluesKaj: This program was installed when i installed kubuntu. Im looking in add/remove and it says Quassel is uninstalled, but im on it right now.
[16:43] <und3rgr0undz3r0> captmiddy: so yeah, I click on network in dolphin and NOTHING shows up
[16:45] <BluesKaj> did you install quassel-dev version from source perhaps?
[16:45] <max____> I didnt install quassel. It was already installed when i booted up for the very first time.
[16:45] <und3rgr0undz3r0> can anyone help me see my windows shares on my windows box?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> und3rgr0undz3r0, try dolphin places/ntfs volume
[16:46] <und3rgr0undz3r0> BluesKaj: its not on THIS machine, its a networked machine
[16:46] <BluesKaj> und3rgr0undz3r0, not a partition ok
[16:46] <BluesKaj> samba ?
[16:46] <und3rgr0undz3r0> its installled
[16:46] <und3rgr0undz3r0> should be working
[16:47] <und3rgr0undz3r0> just isnt
[16:47] <BluesKaj> vista on windows ?
[16:47] <und3rgr0undz3r0> windows 7
[16:47] <und3rgr0undz3r0> i had it workin in fedora
[16:47] <und3rgr0undz3r0> but fedora sucks
[16:47] <und3rgr0undz3r0> so i came back to kubuntu
[16:47] <BluesKaj> W7 is difficult to setup on a network ...it expects all other pcs tob e running W7 as well
[16:48] <Tuxracer52_> hallo zusammen, ich bin neu hier
[16:48] <und3rgr0undz3r0> i dunno, I had it working on Fedora and in XP, but for some reason not my favorite Linux distro lol
[16:48] <BluesKaj> whatever you do und3rgr0undz3r0 , don't use the homegroup networking on W7
[16:48] <und3rgr0undz3r0> I just want to grab my stuff off there, i backed it all up on that box
[16:48] <Tuxracer52_> is this a only english channel ?
[16:49] <und3rgr0undz3r0> BluesKaj: no worries there lol
[16:50] <und3rgr0undz3r0> so damn
[16:50] <und3rgr0undz3r0> i DO NOT want to install nautilus
[16:50] <und3rgr0undz3r0> but it ALWAYS works in nautilus
[16:50] <Tuxracer52_> hallo und3rgr0undz3r0
[16:50] <und3rgr0undz3r0> hallo Tuxracer52_
[16:50] <Tuxracer52_> und3rgr0undz3r0:
[16:51] <Tuxracer52_> eine kleine frage ich bekomm inxi nicht installiert in kubuntu x64 kde 4.x
[16:52] <harjot> Tuxracer52_: this is an english only channel dude
[16:52] <harjot> dunno what the german one is
[16:52] <max____> !de
[16:52] <BluesKaj> und3rgr0undz3r0, setup the W7 shares again , kubuntusmaba should be able to see them after a reshare and reboot of the windows pc
[16:52] <und3rgr0undz3r0> im gonna see if krusader can see them
[16:55] <houdini> hey all
[16:58] <houdini> Im new to this IRC system. Could anyone help me with changing my nickname?
[16:58] <lupine_85> houdini, /nick blah
[16:58] <houdini> lupine_85, so but typing a slash before the new name?
[16:59] <lupine_85> no, you type: /nick <new nickname here>
[16:59] <BluesKaj>  /nick newnick, do it in the server textbox
[16:59] <houdini> thanks verymuch
[17:00] <houdini> thanks, you saved me hours of time lol
[17:00] <bestone> hail.
[17:13] <n8w> hey,where do i find any kind of start up manager for applications which i want to b kicked up everytime i log in?
[17:14] <coz_> n8w,  I believe system settings/advances/Autostart
[17:14] <coz_> advanced
[17:14] <BluesKaj> n8w, just leave them on when you logoff , it's one way
[17:14] <Xnet0> yes, under advanced there is an icon called 'AutoStart"
[17:15] <Xnet0> add your programs to the list by clicking the button "Add Programs"
[17:17] <n8w> damn i went down:)
[17:18] <n8w> coz_: ye well there sint anythin like autostart ...
[17:19] <coz_> n8w,  in system settings / Advanced  there should be an "Autostart" button
[17:19] <Xnet0> n8w, what version are you using?>
[17:19] <n8w> coz_: nope...
[17:19] <n8w> Xnet0: 9.04
[17:19] <lovre> i have to recover data from a laptop, so i tried to do it with live kubuntu, but it doesnt seem to have enough RAM memory. What do you recommend? Is there another linux solution i can try?
[17:19] <Xnet0> n8w, kk thats what i'm currently running.
[17:19] <n8w> BluesKaj: yep,ive figured that out too:)...
[17:20] <Xnet0> n8w, you could also run a script that has multiple programs enlisted, that you could click upon startup
[17:20] <Xnet0> n8w, Ive done that before with a pplib ati fan speed command
[17:20] <n8w> BluesKaj: i was more thinkin like if i do force reboot/shutdown or smth, everythin runnin will b lost,includin all runin appz
[17:21] <Xnet0> lol
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !shortforms
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !english
[17:21] <draik> I'm having USB issues with my desktop. Went up to 300/360MB of an archive (.zip), xfer rate dropped and died, then the USB flash drive no longer appeared as connected. Here is my pastebin from dmesg: http://pastebin.com/f3b9bbc32
[17:23] <draik> Greatly appreciated for all that can take a look at that for me.
[17:23] <n8w> Xnet0: so there is no start up manager at all?do i have to make a script to b ran everytime i wanna get all my appz up n runin?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> draik, do you have the device notifier widget installed on your panel?
[17:24] <Xnet0> n8w, there is a startup maanger, as i stated before.. im wondering why you cannot find it. But yes, writing a script could work.
[17:25] <c3o> hai all brother..
[17:25] <c3o> did you now scanner tool for scan website on kubuntu ?
[17:25] <Xnet0> n8w, check this exact method again. Go to system settings/advanced.
[17:25] <Xnet0> n8w, on that page there will be a set of icons under the heading of advanced user settings
[17:25] <c3o> sor xnet0 ? what you mean
[17:25] <draik> BluesKaj: Yes, I do.
[17:26] <BluesKaj> so usb isn't showing up
[17:26] <Xnet0> n8w, click on autostart ( icon with gears)
[17:26] <n8w> Xnet0: should i make a screenshot for u?nothin like autostart is there:)
[17:26] <draik> BluesKaj: It shows up, but then it goes away when xfer fails
[17:26] <n8w> Xnet0: OMG..im sry:DDD
[17:27] <Xnet0> n8w, lol its fine. did you find it?
[17:27] <n8w> Xnet0: omg:)))) ye i did...i dont understand how i could have not seen it before:D
[17:27] <draik> Xfer rate is around 25-30MB/s, then it starts to slow down to zero and it just sits there. A few seconds later, the drive is not displayed in the USB notifier and the window shows up as blank.
[17:27] <Xnet0> n8w, lol sweet now your up n runnin
[17:28] <lovre> why is my sound much silenter in kubuntu then in windows? Same settings, no equalizer of any kind, but still in windows i can get much higher volume then in kubuntu.. what can be the reason?
[17:28] <Xnet0> lovre, did you check your Kmixer setttings?
[17:28] <n8w> Xnet0: cheers m8, i appriciate your patience:)))
[17:28] <Xnet0> n8w, no problem have a good day ;)
[17:28] <lovre> Xnet0: well, its all at max
[17:28] <n8w> Xnet0: u2
[17:29] <BluesKaj> lovre, in the terminal, alsamixer , set your sliders
[17:29] <Xnet0> lovre, even pcm??
[17:29] <c3o> halllo2 any body know how to scan website hole with terminal ???
[17:30] <Xnet0> c3o, why would you need that scanning capability for?
[17:30] <draik> BluesKaj: The USB device is 8GB. My external 500GB will light up for a few seconds and then turn off. The external doesn't even register with USB Notifier
[17:30] <Xnet0> **what
[17:30] <lovre> Xnet0: yes even pcm. why?
[17:31] <Xnet0> lovre, that seems to help with mine. what sound card? May be able to look up similiar problems in some forums/
[17:32] <lovre> Xnet0: nVidia mother board integrated, i dont know what model
[17:32] <lovre> Xnet0: i will look around a bit, thank you
[17:32] <Xnet0> lovre, check using alsamicer
[17:32] <Xnet0> alsamixer
[17:32] <Xnet0> lovre, it will tell you your type
[17:32] <draik> BluesKaj: On top of the USB, I can't SSH it from another computer on my network. I just tried and got up to 6MB/s. It died at 96/360MB of the file. I have now lost Internet/Network connection.
[17:32] <c3o> am developer website my attacer hack my site...
[17:33] <lovre> Xnet0: realtek alc888
[17:33] <lovre> Xnet0: does that tell you anythin :)
[17:33] <c3o> am need find  the hole but am need scanner to.. .for find it...
[17:34] <Xnet0> lovre, umm lol. well ive only had problems with HDAintel soundcards. Im not sure that i could be of much help with that one. Althought this is the case, ive seen a lot online about realtek.
[17:35] <Xnet0> Lovre, check it out by typing "realtek alc888 problems in kubuntu" on google or any search engine your prefer
[17:35] <lovre> Xnet0: ok thank you for your time, i will do some searching now :)
[17:35] <Dragnslcr> c3o- you can probably find some vulnerability scanners floating around the Internet, but it's not a trivial task
[17:35] <Xnet0> lovre, no problem have a nice day
[17:42] <BluesKaj> draik , i'm also having network issues with wife's flaky vista ..it's really unrelaible , sometimes it's fine othertimes it won't let me in no matter what. Wondering if it could be samba
[17:43] <genjix> lovre: u having sound problems?
[17:44] <draik> BluesKaj: My girl's sister has Vista and it won't let her connect to her own AP. Her ISP checked the AP and did a line test. All is well so it is narrowed down to Vista. I wouldn't be surprised if the same applies to you.
[17:44] <draik> BluesKaj: I restarted the computer and I'm doing the cp via CLI and I hope that works and maybe just a GUI issue.
[17:45] <draik> I just wish that 'cp' was able to show me the xfer rate, amount xfer'd and ETC.
[17:45] <draik> ETC = Estimated Time of Completion
[17:46] <BluesKaj> draik, ssh'ing ? wonder if that would work for me
[17:46] <draik> I have my netbook on the network and that's where I had the archive. I tried SSH and that failed miserably.
[17:46] <draik> SSH gave me xfer rate of 6MB/s TOPS and died after 96.0MB
[17:47] <draik> With the GUI xfer, I got ot 300MB out of 362MB
[17:47] <BluesKaj> bummer , was hoping for another avenue into the windows pcs on our network
[17:47] <draik> Hammers are another way to get into the PC ;)
[17:47] <BluesKaj> heh
[17:48] <draik> cp is still active and the light on the USB device is flashing, so I guess its going well, but I wish I had a rate so that I know how it is really going. 'cp -v /media/device/file.zip ~/folder/' isn't very helpful in this case
[17:49] <draik> sorry, .rar, not .zip
[17:49] <makdaknife_> draik: I guess you could use rsync to get better progress info
[17:50] <draik> I don't want to interrupt anything right now.
[17:50] <dwidmann> Hmm, I've got a problem with amarok 2.1 ... seems like it stops after everty track sometimes? (stop after track is not set, repeat playlist is). Quite aggrevating :(
[17:50] <draik> makdaknife_: http://pastebin.com/f3b9bbc32
[17:52] <draik> If I could get my USB and networking issues resolved, I would then consider Kubuntu as my end-all solution. Seeing how this doesn't happen on my XP partition, makes me wonder about what is going on.
[17:55] <K|ckMe> i need help setting up OpenSSL to use with Unrealircd
[17:57] <draik> BluesKaj: CLI did it
[17:57] <draik> I guess it is a GUI issue
[17:57] <BluesKaj> draik, cli, how ?
[17:58] <draik> BluesKaj: cp /media/device/folder/file.rar ~/folder/
[17:58] <draik> BluesKaj: But here's a weird thing. The device no longer read once it finished
[17:59] <draik> To assure the cp was a complete success, I wanted to check md5's. Nothing in that device's directory
[18:00] <draik> And I also lost Internet :(
[18:01] <BluesKaj> draik, what about copying from one pc to another ?
[18:01] <Rasmus> Hi
[18:01] <draik> BluesKaj: If you mean SSH, that dies within 100MB of the file
[18:03] <BluesKaj> flaky ssh or is it the distro that's causing all these probs, it's rhetorical...no need to answer
[18:03] <draik> Something's up. USB fails, network fails when I do update/upgrade, SSH, try to load random sites (even MySpace/Facebook).. it's nothing concrete when it comes to networking.
[18:04] <draik> BluesKaj: But the thing is that it ONLY happens to this desktop. I have a server, netbook and 2 laptops. ONLY happens on this desktop.
[18:05] <BluesKaj> all linux ?
[18:05] <draik> All Kubuntu 9.04
[18:06] <draik> Server is 9.04 as well
[18:07] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[18:08] <draik_> Did we all just go through a netsplit?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> lookslike
[18:09] <draik_> BluesKaj: Right now, I'm trying to download the Symantec update for my XP on virtualbox. The download rate is at 753kb/s and has now frozen. Started at around 6MB/s and now I have no Internet. This really sucks.
[18:09] <Serpico> hi
[18:12] <halberd> I can't seem to open X-chat in kde
[18:13] <halberd> it worked before (and it's worked since the last reboot) but now I can click on the x-chat icon and it enlarges like the program is opening, but then nothing happens
[18:14] <halberd> any ideas?
[18:14] <halberd> where is the x-chat log anyway?
[18:20] <halberd> when I try to open any application, it says it cannot open display :0.  What would cause that?  How to fix?
[18:21] <halberd> any gui application I mean
[18:21] <draik_> BluesKaj: Best of luck with Vista. I find it to be a bit much of a beta still. I'm going to go crazy trying to find out why USB and network fail on this desktop.
[18:25] <halberd> nvm I figured it out
[18:31] <TITTI> ciao
[18:32] <chull> :)
[18:33] <chull> my husband has k3b on his kubuntu 8.10 but it won't find it. how can we do that?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> chull, alt+f2 , k3b
[18:38] <chull> BluesKaj, or anyone... now he showed me that the 'burn' button is grayed out.. he can't burn to the CD
[18:39] <chull> and BluesKaj  that command worked nicely ! thank you :)
[18:40] <draik_> chull: Do you have a blank CD in the drive?
[18:43] <chull> Draik_ he had a DVD he's been using for photos .. he switched to a plain dvd .. but same problem
[18:45] <draik_> chull: Is it picking up the drive/device?
[18:45] <draik_> chull: Is K3B seeing the device, I mean
[18:45] <chull> draik_, i'm not sure, is there a way to tell?
[18:46] <chull> it shows on the desktop
[18:46] <chull> if it's not there.. it doesn't
[18:46] <Dragnslcr> If you're using a blank DVD, make sure you selected DVD from the start
[18:46] <chull> Dragnslcr, ty much, he did that too
[18:50] <draik_> Sorry, I had to step away for a bit. You should see it in the upper left panel at the top of the list.
[18:50] <chull> i tried to suggest that he try some other burning software but 1. he knows/likes k3b and 2. we don't know other good programs .. ideas?
[18:50] <chull> draik_, on k3b or where?
[18:51] <chull> on k3b the FOLDERS show in the top left.. i don't see the burner indicated?
[18:52] <chull> it keeps coming up /Linux/Unix/Windows.. he has to slect Linux each time
[18:53] <max____> tcheque
[18:53] <chull> hi max____
[18:53] <max____> hi
[18:53] <max____> how you doin?
[18:53] <chull> max____, we are trying to figure out why k3b doesn't work.. you?
[18:54] <Dragnslcr> chull- Settings -> Show Directories
[18:54] <draik_> chull: Yes.
[18:54] <Dragnslcr> That should open a pane on the left that includes burner info
[18:54] <chull> Dragnslcr, ok looking
[18:54] <draik_> chull: Yes, it K3B.
[18:54] <max____> well I'm kind of a virgin of chats and all that stuff so I wanted to try.
[18:55] <max____> oh and please excuse my english
[18:55] <chull> max____, it's fun.. this is a support chan.. but welcome :))
[18:55] <chull> Dragnslcr, 'settings' where? he has kubuntu
[18:56] <Dragnslcr> In k3b's menu bar
[19:00] <lovre> how can i check my system current charset
[19:03] <chull> draik_, Dragnslcr .. i don 't see the burner in there at all
[19:04] <genii> lovre: echo $LANG    may tell you
[19:06] <chull> genii, if you're good with language things, my open office keeps going back to baltic and arabic choices and won't give me English.
[19:06] <genii> chull: Not my strong point :)
[19:07] <chull> genii, oh well, i'm sure you have many others :)
[19:10] <lovre> genii: ty
[19:13] <chull> Dragnslcr, draik_  still here?
[19:13] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, sort of
[19:14] <chull> Dragnslcr, ty .. ideas for how to make it find the CD/DVD player?
[19:15] <Dragnslcr> Not offhand, sorry. It's always worked automagically for me
[19:16] <chull> hehe but it's ours.. that makes it more interesting <g>
[19:17] <Makuseru> Is there any way to isntall a version before 2.1 of Amarok in kubuntu?
[19:18] <coz_> Makuseru,  you might be able to find a package online  the only issue may be libraries it requires are out of date
[19:19] <Dragnslcr> Makuseru- I think 2.0 is the initial version in Kubuntu 9.04. I thought 2.1 was only in a PPA
[19:20] <BluesKaj> yes Makuseru. version 1.4 or 14 here : http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Compiling:1.4
[19:20] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: Once again, thank you.
[19:22] <Makuseru> BluesKaj: That link only tells you how to compile it from a .tar.bz. And it never links to any place to download one,
[19:24] <Mamarok> Makuseru: well, you might find an old package of 1.4.10 in the Intrepid archives
[19:24] <Makuseru> Mamarok: Where are those at?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/05/get-amarok-14-in-kubuntu-904.html
[19:25] <Mamarok> Makuseru: wait, I will give you the link, but be aware that 1.4.10 needs a lot of KDE3 dependencies, might not work on KDE4
[19:25] <Makuseru> Thank you both.
[19:25] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: thx :)
[19:25] <Mamarok> Makuseru: yaw :)
[19:26] <BluesKaj> Makuseru, make sure you follow the instructions about the ppas because there will probs otherwise with amarok constantly trying to upgrade to 2.1 or whatever the newest one is.
[19:26] <Makuseru> Alright,
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Ididn't like amarok 2 at first but managed to figure it out ok. I just use it for a few fav netradio stn streams anyway
[19:29] <irwin> hola
[19:34] <Makuseru> How can you edit the K Menu entries?
[19:35] <garry> Makuseru: Right-click the menu then click Menu Editor
[19:35] <Makuseru> There is no menu editor.
[19:35] <garry> Ok, sorry, no idea then
[19:36] <garry> No, wait, open a console and enter 'kmenuedit'
[19:36] <Makuseru> Thanks.
[19:36] <garry> :-)
[19:41] <shadeslayer> anyone who uses rekonq?
[19:41] <azreih123> I just installed kubuntu on my desktop.  my speakers are extremely quite when turned all the way up and I can't figure out why, any suggestions?
[19:42] <shadeslayer> azreih123: rt click the sound icon and set the master channel to master
[19:43] <shadeslayer> azreih123: then try turning up the volume from the icon(seet it to max)
[19:43] <shadeslayer> *set
[19:43] <azreih123> when I right click and select "select master'  "Master" is not an option
[19:44] <shadeslayer> azreih123: what are the options?
[19:44] <azreih123> Front, Headphone, PCM Center, Wave there's alot.  PCM is set to master right now, and I have it turned ALL the way up.  Also in the mixer, front and PCM sliders both turn it up and down
[19:45] <shadeslayer> azreih123: ok,right click the sound icon > show mixer window > settings > configure channels > select everything and set everything to max
[19:46] <shadeslayer> azreih123: then select master channel as master and high :)
[19:47] <azreih123> oddly enough, there is still no "Master" channel
[19:47] <azreih123> turning everything up helped a bit, but not half as load as my Bose speakers should be able to go
[19:48] <shadeslayer> azreih123: in a terminal type alsamixer and set everything to high there..
[19:48] <Mamarok> azreih123: can't you add it in kmix settings?
[19:49] <microtech> with this new kernel and the ability to do ext4 with LVM, is there a way to create a data pool similar to a ZFS pool?  I have two drives, different sizes, I want to make one volume...
[19:50] <azreih123> Everything in Alsa mixer is all the way up no change, it was all the way up already
[19:51] <shadeslayer> azreih123: see Mamarok's comment
[19:51] <sanjays> HI
[19:51] <shadeslayer> sanjays: hi
[19:52] <azreih123> Mamarok no I cannot add a master channel, thre is no option for it in the channels
[19:52] <sanjays> If theres anyone here who can help me with my loggerhead upgrade to its latest trunck
[19:52] <microtech> Anyone have any ideas on how I can create one volume from two different sized drives?  I tried zfs-fuse but it appears it's gotten buggier as kubuntu advances..
[19:52] <azreih123> I have enabled every channel in the list, Master is not one of them
[19:55] <shadeslayer> !sound | azreih123
[19:59] <Mamarok> hm, azreih123 I didn't follow the whole discussion, but what sound backend and phonon configuration do you use?
[20:11] <azreih123> Mamorok forgive me, but I don't know what that means
[20:11] <Mamarok> azreih123: when you go to the system settings -> multimedia
[20:12] <azreih123> Mamarok in the mixer when I open it it says "SBLive! Value[CT4871]
[20:12] <Mamarok> you see your sound devices there, that's the phonon configuration, and there's a second tab called backend where you see what sound engine you use
[20:12] <Makuseru> Is there any way to have an option when you right click an archive for "extract extract here, extract to" in kde4?
[20:13] <azreih123> under Audio Output it shows 2, one is the SBLive! I just posted, the other is Intel 82801BA-ICH2  which is my onboard sound that nothing is plugged into
[20:14] <Mamarok> Makuseru: depends on the archive, normaly just clicking on it opens ark
[20:14] <Mamarok> azreih123: and in the backend tab?
[20:14] <Makuseru> Mamarok: I dont want to open it.
[20:14] <azreih123> Mamarok in the backend it says Xine
[20:14] <azreih123> And a checkbox to show OSS devices
[20:14] <Mamarok> Makuseru: you could configure that yourself I guess
[20:15] <Makuseru> Mamarok: In kde3 when you right clicked, there was another tab for extraction options, and you could just choose "extract to filename" and it would extract itself to a new folder and you would never have to open up ark.
[20:15] <Mamarok> azreih123: ok, then you have the correct sound settings :)
[20:15] <Makuseru> How would I go about doing that?
[20:15] <Mamarok> Makuseru: let me check
[20:15] <azreih123> hmmm, guess I should have checked this first...I"m going to check and make sure it's plugged in all the way then....
[20:16] <azreih123> Yep, I"m a complete DOPE I appologze, that was the problem...BUT with it plugged in all the way I get some serious background noise, fuzz/whitenoise
[20:16] <Mamarok> Makuseru: that works here in KDE 4.3 beta 2, I have all those options in the right click menu
[20:16] <Makuseru> How do i check what version i have
[20:16] <Makuseru> ?
[20:16] <shadeslayer> Makuseru: kde-config --version
[20:16] <Mamarok> Makuseru: any KDE app, help menu -> about KDE
[20:17] <Makuseru> Ah, ive got 4.2.2
[20:17] <Makuseru> How would i upfrade to 4.3?
[20:17] <shadeslayer> Makuseru: /topic
[20:17] <Makuseru> Oh, lol. Thank you.
[20:17] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i think ive found the perfect browser for KDE :)..rekonq
[20:17] <Mamarok> Makuseru: you should consider upgrading to 4.2.4 first, as this is a stable release, KDE 4.3 is still beta
[20:18] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: nice
[20:18] <Makuseru> Mamarok: Does 4.2.4 have those options?
[20:18] <Mamarok> Makuseru: I don't know, it's worth a try though
[20:18] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: supports gmail,doesnt crash.....but i need to check it out of SVN to get it working :P
[20:19] <Mamarok> Makuseru: see the topic for how to upgrade
[20:19] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, yes of course :)
[20:19] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[20:19] <azreih123> I can't turn things up to hear it now, the whitenoise drowns everything out....
[20:20] <shadeslayer> azreih123: see the volume controls and adjust them
[20:20] <Mamarok> azreih123: all cables ok?
[20:20] <azreih123> Mamarok all the cables are okay now, everything is plugged in properly
[20:20] <azreih123> shadeslayer I'm messing with the volume controls now since I have ALL channels showing lol
[20:21] <Mamarok> azreih123: good, because a defective cable can be a serious nuisance in term of whitenoise
[20:21] <shadeslayer> azreih123: good luck...:)
[20:23] <azreih123> this is deffinatly going to be annoying
[20:24] <azreih123> 3 of the volume controls will alter the sound, but none of them take away whitenoise, they all turn it up or down, that's it
[20:25] <shadeslayer> azreih123: turn down the whitenoise to 0 :P
[20:36] <Makuseru> I added the repo for 4.2.4(found in the topic here) and when i went to update, it says i need a key. But the page in the link says nothing about this.
[20:38] <Dragnslcr> Makuseru- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3 has details about getting the PPA's GPG key
[20:38] <shadeslayer> Makuseru: see the signing key on the page
[20:39] <shadeslayer> Makuseru: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A
[20:40] <Makuseru> Thank you, you guys rock.
[20:42] <shadeslayer> Makuseru: you mean we are rocks?? :P
[20:42] <Makuseru> Yes!
[20:43] <ghostcube> youre always welcome to the olymp -_-
[20:45] <chabelinux> hey some one can helpme!!
[20:46] <ikonia> chabelinux: what's up ?
[20:46] <chabelinux> the thunderbird no have conection with server smtp of hotmail
[20:47] <chabelinux> only received, not send
[20:48] <BluesKaj> chabelinux, hotmail doesn't use smtp, you have set up hot mail to download to your server
[20:48] <ikonia> chabelinux: hotmail doesn't provide an smtp server that I'm aware of
[20:49] <slow-motion> hi
[20:49] <azreih123> Mamarok okay, so I restarted my computer, now I have no sound, other than system sounds.
[20:49] <BluesKaj> thunderbird isn't a client for hotmail
[20:49] <chabelinux> yes, the pop3.live.com is enter, the out is smtp.live.com
[20:49] <ikonia> I don't think MS provide that functionality - at least that I'm aware for
[20:49] <azreih123> maximise, shrink, open close things I get sound, played the startup sound,, but no sound from amarok or the web now
[20:50] <chabelinux> ok. thank you for lesson!!
[20:50] <BluesKaj> just use your hotmail acct , don't try to send thru thunderbird
[20:50] <ikonia> chabelinux: if it does offer that functionality it will most likley be auth before send
[20:51] <chabelinux> ok, than you for message
[20:53] <ghostcube> why should hotmail not offer smtpguys
[20:53] <ghostcube> ??
[20:53] <BluesKaj> ikonia, some ISP are using hotmail servers , think that confuses some ppl
[20:54] <ikonia> BluesKaj: ahh
[20:54] <ikonia> godmok: don't want to be spam hosts
[20:55] <BluesKaj> pophm and smtphm
[20:58] <godmok> 0o
[21:01] <shadeslayer> godmok: yes??
[21:05] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: uh...dont know what happened but arora just stopped crashing o_0...maybe it needed kdewebkit or it sensed competition from rekonq :P
[21:08] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: because you didn't install webkit with it? well, that' couldn't work well then...
[21:11] <godmok> shadeslayer: i was highlighted for what? well, not that it matters
[21:11] <godmok> sorry :)
[21:16] <hubar_> hmm question, is there anyway to remove ubuntu desktop (along with the gnome stuff)?
[21:17] <genii> !purekde
[21:19] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you're still using nightly builds
[21:19] <hubar_> err, but I still need at least firefox and scim...
[21:20] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i had no idea..
[21:20] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you're still using nightly builds
[21:20] <shadeslayer> ikonia: yes,but im not asking for support
[21:20] <ikonia> shadeslayer: stop discussing it in here then please
[21:20] <ikonia> shadeslayer: I made that clear to you
[21:21] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i was reffering to arora
[21:21] <blackflag> Hello, I want to mount a iscsi device that a users having access to it. Im trying in fstab: /dev/sdc5     /mnt/iscsi-san      ext3    _netdev,rw,users       0       0 with no luck. Can someone help
[21:21] <ikonia> shadeslayer: stop discussing it in here then please
[21:21] <shadeslayer> ikonia: arora is not a nightly build
[21:21] <blackflag> ?
[21:21] <ikonia> shadeslayer: your base system is a nightly build = no discussed in here
[21:21] <ikonia> BluesKaj: what's actually the problem ?
[21:21] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no,i have kde 4.2.4
[21:22] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you said you where using knightly builds
[21:22] <shadeslayer> +as well
[21:22] <ikonia> shadeslayer: your base system is no longer a sane kubuntu build - it's not supported
[21:22] <ikonia> shadeslayer: please stop discussing it in here
[21:22] <shadeslayer> ikonia: kde neon is installed seprately from a stable KDE realease
[21:22] <ikonia> shadeslayer: and all the libraries ?
[21:23] <shadeslayer> ikonia: yes,all of them are different
[21:23] <shadeslayer> all are installed in ~/.kde-neon
[21:23] <ikonia> shadeslayer: no they are not
[21:23] <shadeslayer> ikonia: yes they are....
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> the config files are stored there, yes
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> neon is a totally isolated installation
[21:24] <ikonia> so there is nothing linked from the kde base system to the neon install ?@
[21:24] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: not affecting my normal KDE right?
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> right, it has no affect whatsoever on normal KDE
[21:24] <ikonia> or the base install system
[21:25] <ikonia> so it's not linked at all to anything on the base system ?
[21:25] <JontheEchidna> right, nothing on a base install would use it
[21:25] <ikonia> JontheEchidna: so where are the actual libraries stored ?
[21:25] <JontheEchidna> /opt/neon or somesuch
[21:25] <hubar_> hmm question, I followed the instruction from !purekde, but I get this: http://pastebin.com/d4635cde2
[21:25] <shadeslayer> its like a sandbox install
[21:26] <hubar_> What should I do now?
[21:26] <BluesKaj> I don't have a problem ikonia, I was explaning that some ISPs are using hotmail servers for pop3 and smtp ,(pophm and smtphm)
[21:26] <ikonia> shadeslayer: could you pastebin the output of ls -la /opt/neon please, I'm curious to where these libraries are linked from
[21:26] <ikonia> BluesKaj: no, I understand what you where saying,
[21:26] <shadeslayer> ikonia: ill be glad to :)
[21:26] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[21:26] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no such file or directory
[21:26] <ikonia> shadeslayer: where is your neon install located ?
[21:27] <JontheEchidna> it's in opt somewhere
[21:27] <ikonia> BluesKaj: sorry - that was meant for blackflag
[21:27] <shadeslayer> ikonia: project-neon
[21:27]  * hubar_ has a rather legitimate Kubuntu support question...
[21:27] <shadeslayer> :_)
[21:27] <ikonia> hubar_: go for it
[21:27] <ikonia> shadeslayer: where is it installed please ?
[21:27] <shadeslayer> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/fce77258
[21:28] <shadeslayer> ikonia: the path was /opt/project-neon not /opt/neon
[21:28] <hubar_> ikonia: but I want to see the list of packages it will be removing.
[21:28] <JontheEchidna> hubar_: it should be safe to reinstall kde-icons-oxygen right after it gets removed
[21:28] <ikonia> shadeslayer: can you do /opt/neon/lib please
[21:28] <ikonia> hubar_: can you explain your question please, I didn't see the first part
[21:28] <JontheEchidna> hubar_: No clue why it's being removed in the first place though...
[21:28] <hubar_> ikonia: I don't want to uninstall critical packages.
[21:28] <ikonia> shadeslayer: sorry - /opt/project-neon/lib
[21:29] <shadeslayer> ikonia: ls -la for the above?
[21:29] <Mamarok> hubar_: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it will not remove anything
[21:29] <ikonia> shadeslayer: please
[21:29] <hubar_> hmm question, I followed the instruction from !purekde, but I get this: http://pastebin.com/d4635cde2
[21:29] <shadeslayer> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/f426eebf1
[21:29] <Garp> Hi.
[21:29] <blackflag> I have a iscsi hd mounted. but only root has access to it. I want that users having also access to that mount point. In the moment the users having read only and I dont know to make it rw for users.
[21:29] <hubar_> Mamarok: well, then what does the !purekde say?
[21:30] <ikonia> shadeslayer: can you also do the output of the command "en" please
[21:30] <Garp> Question (intrepid): How to get a nicer desktop bar than the ugly default grey-black one? Thanks.
[21:30] <shadeslayer> ikonia: just en in my home directory?
[21:30] <ikonia> shadeslayer: env
[21:30] <ikonia> shadeslayer: anywhere
[21:31] <shadeslayer> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/f6bb6f841
[21:31] <Mamarok> hubar_: a metapackage is used to install package groups, it can then be removed safely
[21:31] <ikonia> thanks
[21:31] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no problems :)
[21:31] <waltzingalong> Garp: right mouse click it, or get to the properties of it through system settings; pick a color, colorize it to match theme, transparent, or pick a backdrop pic
[21:31] <Garp> waltzingalong: I'm trying... thanks
[21:32] <ikonia> shadeslayer: very interesting, it appears that you're setup to be currently using your nightly build environment
[21:32] <hubar_> mamarok, but !purekde says http://pastebin.com/d5254f853
[21:32] <hubar_> !purekde
[21:32] <ikonia> shadeslayer: is that what you expected ?
[21:32] <shadeslayer> ikonia: yes,im using neon right now...i switch to 4.2.4 if neon stops working
[21:32] <ikonia> shadeslayer: how do you switch ?
[21:32] <Garp> waltzingalong: how do I "pick a color" If I right click to get the setting, I only get some "plasmoid" refernbces
[21:32] <shadeslayer> ikonia: same as switching gnome and kde
[21:33] <shadeslayer> the session change thing :)
[21:33] <ikonia> shadeslayer: I do'nt see how that would effect your env environment
[21:33] <waltzingalong> Garp: plasmoid references in intrepid?
[21:33] <Mamarok> hubar_: that looks strange, metapackages don't remove anything
[21:33] <ikonia> shadeslayer: things like your PATH would still be the same as it is now ?
[21:34] <Garp> waltzingalong: humm, you gave me a doubt here. How can I know the version? Thanks.
[21:34] <hubar_> Mamarok: hmm....
[21:34] <shadeslayer> ikonia: well i think its about paths...kde 4.2.4 will use ~/.kde for refrencing configs
[21:34] <shadeslayer> whereas in neon its ~/.kde-neon
[21:34] <ikonia> shadeslayer: things like PATH are not set by the desktop though, they are set by the base system
[21:34] <ikonia> unless there is a post login script that alters them
[21:34] <waltzingalong> Garp: $ cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:34] <Garp> waltzingalong: yes, it's intrepid (from /etc/apt/source.list)
[21:34] <Mamarok> hubar_: if you do aptitude show ubuntu-desktop it will show you a lot of packages that are needed for a Gnome installation, but removing that package doesn't remove anything but that exact package
[21:34] <shadeslayer> ikonia: oh you mean things like my folders and files on my desktop?
[21:35] <waltzingalong> Garp:  and which version of kde then? help/about kde on any kde app
[21:35] <Garp> waltzingalong: intrepid again, but KDE 4 :(
[21:35] <ikonia> shadeslayer: not quite, but you're understanding what I'm saying
[21:35] <ikonia> or querying I should say
[21:35] <shadeslayer> ikonia: you would have to talk to hsitter about those,i have no idea about them
[21:35] <BluesKaj>  hubar_ , check this out http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[21:35] <ikonia> shadeslayer: intersting, thank you and my apologies
[21:36] <waltzingalong> Garp: hm i do not know how to change the bar with the earlier version of kde4 (like 4.0 and 4.1)
[21:36] <Garp> waltzingalong: sorry .
[21:36] <shadeslayer> ikonia: no need to apologise please...it was just a misunderstanding..hope its cleared
[21:37] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: does removing ubuntu-desktop really remove all dependencies? the package is set as optional
[21:38] <shadeslayer> i dont think so...ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package...just reinstall
[21:38] <waltzingalong> Mamarok: not usually; just the ones shown there in the list
[21:38] <Garp> waltzingalong: would kde3 works on intrepid? If yes, how can I get it? Thanks.
[21:38] <JontheEchidna> Mamarok: no, it would just remove the meta-package
[21:39] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, check the site i posted above , it explains some of the commands needed for a pure setup
[21:39] <Mamarok> that's well what I thought, then the instructions in the link given in !purekde are wrong
[21:39] <shadeslayer> psychopaths had the best command so far...
[21:40] <shadeslayer> *psychocats
[21:40] <Garp> answer likely here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[21:41] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: BluesKaj then we need to change that !purekde factoid, the wiki page there is wrong
[21:41] <BluesKaj> yes, i was about to suggest that, Mamarok
[21:42] <waltzingalong> Garp: sorry i do not know. which kde4 do you have on there?
[21:42] <Mamarok> tsimpson: ping
[21:42] <BluesKaj> I know that those instructions/commands do work ...i tried them personally when i decided to go back to kde from gnome a while ago
[21:43] <Garp> waltzingalong: 4.1.4. I would like to go back to kde 3
[21:43] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: yes, the psychocats one works
[21:43] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: second that...
[21:43] <Garp> waltzingalong: Could I downgrade to the precedent release of kubuntu ?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> Garp, then you want what is called the jaunty remix
[21:43] <waltzingalong> Garp: it could probably be forced but i would not suggest it
[21:44] <Garp> BluesKaj: could you tell me more ?
[21:44] <Garp> waltzingalong: then just reinstall, maybe.
[21:44] <BluesKaj> Garp, it's jaunty with kde3.5 instaed of 4.2
[21:44] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: I'm not sure that PPA is still active...
[21:44] <hubar_> BluesKaj: that is one massive list. >.<
[21:45] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: also, it is not officially supported here anyway
[21:45] <Garp> BluesKaj: then, I would perform an upgrade, not a downgrade, right ?
[21:45] <BluesKaj> hubar_, yeah it's abit large , but copy and paste it and it will work
[21:45] <Mamarok> Garp: if you still have 4.1 it is worth upgrading to 4.2.2 anyway, 4.1 is veeery old
[21:46] <divobtech> hi
[21:46] <Garp> Mamarok: i dont care if it's old,  would a version: that works (stable), and if possible that is tralstated to Armenina.
[21:46] <Garp> Mamarok: Armenian
[21:46] <divobtech> i am new here
[21:47] <divobtech> someone have an french kubuntu support IRC
[21:47] <divobtech> thanks in advance
[21:47] <shadeslayer> !fr | divobtech
[21:48] <BluesKaj> Garp, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[21:48] <Mamarok> Garp: I don't know, what is the language code for Armenian, ar?
[21:48] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: that PPA is down...
[21:49] <Garp> Mamarok: hy.
[21:49] <Garp> BluesKaj: Thanks. Looks interesting.
[21:49] <shadeslayer> brb...something up with my konsole
[21:49] <divobtech> ok merci ubottu
[21:50] <BluesKaj> ok Garp http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-jaunty-kde3-remix-beta
[21:51]  * Mamarok checks the language pack for KDE4 in armenian
[21:52] <sopatrus_drummer> de volta ao irc
[21:52] <sopatrus_drummer> alguem fala portugues ai
[21:52] <Garp> BluesKaj: the repository seems to be offline :(
[21:54] <hubar_> hmm, what is a good way to monitor cpu/memory usage?
[21:54] <shadeslayer> hubar_: my superkaramba theme :P
[21:54] <hubar_> with kde4.3b2
[21:54] <BluesKaj> Garp, yes i posted another one
[21:54] <Mamarok> Garp: you should check here: http://www.debian.am/translate/ for KDE4 translations
[21:54] <shadeslayer> hubar_: works with b2
[21:54] <Mamarok> they have a mailing list, so you can ask there
[21:55] <Garp> BluesKaj: thanks.
[21:55] <shadeslayer> hubar_: http://i39.tinypic.com/2qi8b50.png
[21:55] <Garp> Mamarok: I had a look on the project, unfortunately, I cant help myself (i dont speak that language)
[21:56] <BluesKaj> garp , nevermind it links to the same pearson ppa , which is down
[21:56] <Garp> BluesKaj: yes :( no mirror of the deb pkgs ?
[21:56] <shadeslayer> hubar_: download it here : http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Simple+Shadow+Monitor+Mod%2BAmaroker?content=106287 if you like it or more themes at : http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38
[21:56] <hubar_> shadeslayer: I don't need that many fancies, I just wanna see what's up if, say, my CPU usage had gone up over 70%.
[21:57] <Mamarok> Garp: ok
[21:57] <shadeslayer> hubar_: have a look at kde-look.org then for your needs :)
[21:57] <Mamarok> Garp: for sure KDE 3 seems to be fully translated, I don't know for KDE4
[21:57] <GILIARD_BRASIL> ALGUEM DO BRASIL AI
[21:58] <shadeslayer> hubar_: also theres a bubble monitor included by default (maybe not in beta2,but in RC1)
[21:58] <Garp> Mamarok: almost not at all, afaik.
[21:59]  * hubar_ likes to use addon installer to check out kde-look.org stuff.
[21:59] <Mamarok> Garp: hm, that's not good...
[21:59] <shadeslayer> hubar_: it shows next to nothing :P
[22:00] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, Garp ...bummer : http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
[22:01] <Garp> Maybe go back to hardy is the right thing to do. Unfortunately, I spent quite some time installing pkgs, so reinstalling from s cratch annoy me...
[22:02] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: I know, that's what I tell you since quite some time :)
[22:02] <Mamarok> Garp: seems you have not much choice, but there is KDE 3 also on Intrepid, so at least you have something newer for the underlying system
[22:04] <shadeslayer> i still dont understand why people refuse to use KDE 4.x.....
[22:04] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, I was explaining why the URL is down and appears that it's rather permeanent , not just down for a day or 2
[22:04]  * shadeslayer joins #ubuntu-offtopic to investigate
[22:05] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, #kubuntu-offtopic , maybe ?
[22:06] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: people there dont reply...
[22:07] <shadeslayer> ive been there once or twice...wider base in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <BluesKaj> well, i doubt that ubuntu ppl want to discuss kde
[22:07] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: but if its against the rules then i wont ask...
[22:08] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: actually they do...alot of KDE people there :)
[22:08] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: they just dont admit it :P
[22:08] <BluesKaj> flamers
[22:09] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[22:10] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hypothetical situation : guy under 12 comes here for support,what do we do?? give it to him? or stick to freenode policy?
[22:11] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: or is it just for registering nicks?
[22:11] <BluesKaj> dunno , i'll help as long as he behaves  ...and how does one really know ages anyway :)
[22:11] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: what if we ask him :P....
[22:12] <BluesKaj> go ahead
[22:12] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: but i agree with you :)..as long as he behaves...
[22:13] <Garp> Mamarok: kde3 is on intrepid? How can I use it? Thanks.
[22:13] <hubar_> hmm, how do I get kpackagekit to somehow query kwallet, instead of asking me with gksudo dialog every time when I wanna install something?
[22:13] <BluesKaj> BBL
[22:14] <shadeslayer> Garp: one sec..ill get that for you :)
[22:14] <Mamarok> Garp: there is a workaround somewhere, let me see
[22:14] <Mamarok> !kde3
[22:14] <Mamarok> hm, not here...
[22:15] <Garp> shadeslayer/Mamarok: thanks :)
[22:15] <shadeslayer> Garp: google first result : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[22:15] <Mamarok> Garp: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[22:15] <Mamarok> :)
[22:15] <hubar_> Question, how do I get kpackagekit to somehow query kwallet, instead of asking me with gksudo dialog every time when I wanna install something?
[22:16] <shadeslayer> the all powerful google :)
[22:16] <Garp> Mamarok/shadeslayer: thanks, I'll see, but looks thgat's finaly the same as we saw befire :(
[22:17] <shadeslayer> Garp: i think that is the easiest way to install 3.x...btw why are you not migrating to 4.x ??
[22:18] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: he needs armenian, and KDE4 is not translated yet
[22:18] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ah.. sad,really sad..
[22:18] <Garp> shadeslayer: language support/ stability / ugly look.
[22:19] <Mamarok> Garp: the look is very subjective :)
[22:19] <shadeslayer> Garp: best of luck with the install...im going to sleep :)
[22:19] <Mamarok> but that doesn't belong here anyway
[22:19] <Mamarok> gn8 shadeslayer
[22:19] <shadeslayer> good night....
[22:19] <Garp> shadeslayer: kde3 is clear and simple, icones on the taskbar are readable. In kde4, I've the impression of evolving in a gothic nigthmare
[22:19] <hubar_> Yeah, after a while you get used to the new look. :)
[22:19] <shadeslayer> Garp: lol...
[22:19] <Garp> shadeslayer: goodnight
[22:20] <Garp> well, I ave to go too...
[22:20] <Garp> good night everybody!
[22:20] <hubar_> And you can customize them anyway. :)
[22:20] <hubar_> nite garp
[22:20] <Garp> hubar_: I couldnt even change the color :(
[22:21] <Garp> hubar_: if you have some "kde4 theme that looks like kde3" I buy it :)
[22:21] <hubar_> Garp, ever tried to change theme?
[22:21] <hubar_> heh...
[22:21] <Garp> hubar_: all the one I saw where same ugly grey and unreadable... But I have to go :(
[22:21] <Garp> bebye :)
[22:22]  * defrysk likes the latest kde4
[22:22] <defrysk> even switched from gnome
[22:22] <defrysk> after i dont know howmany yrs
[22:24] <hubar_> I like how well each kde application works together.
[22:26]  * defrysk like the speed and innovative look
[22:26] <hubar_> I only use firefox now, the only GNOME app I use. :)
[22:26] <Mamarok> guys, this is off topic, please take discussions to #kubuntu-offtopic
[22:29] <defrysk> Mamarok, sorry
[22:31] <oscar> hola
[22:31] <zener> hello
[22:31] <oscar> hi zener
[22:31] <tsimpson> Mamarok: pong
[22:32] <zener> is someone managed to make a RME HDSP sound card with pulseaudio under 9.04 ?
[22:33] <zener> (sorry for my poor english ;-) )
[22:33] <defrysk> does kubuntu use pulseaudio?
[22:34] <tsimpson> not by default
[22:34] <zener> oh, sorry, i didn't see that i was in #kunbuntu (i didn't see the 'k')...
[22:35] <Mamarok> defrysk: if you only use KDE you should not use pulseaudio, not needed anyway
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> pulse is a PITA
[22:35] <defrysk> thats what I thought ActionParsnip
[22:35] <zener> yes, it is interresting : if i switch to kde, i won't be these troubles anymore ;-)
[22:35] <defrysk> but zener .... etc
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> i switched from kde to lxde for less troubles
[22:36] <phh> ActionParsnip: as far as i've seen, what sucks is ubuntu's packaging: it works really great on another distribution
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> phh: its the weakness of package based distros
[22:38] <phh> hum, some distros arenn't package based ?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> phh: gentoo
[22:39] <phh> oh you mean binary package then
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> phh: precompiled binarys that require no compilation
[22:39] <phh> (for me an ebuild is still a package)
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> one package goes wonky and you will be denied any onstalls / uninstalls until its fixed
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> installs*
[22:39] <Mamarok> guys, OT!
[22:40] <Mamarok> discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic, please
[22:40] <zener> but when you want to compile things like vlc...it's hard for a newbie ;-)
[22:40] <phh> zeltak: not with a package manager, but listen to the boss :p
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> not if yuo follow the readme and satisfy deps smple stuff
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> zener: can even use apt-build in ubuntu if you wish ;)
[22:41] <zener> yes
[22:42] <yoga2> What is kfrb, it seems that my system is slowing down by it.
[22:42] <zener> i just said vlc because a little time ago, i had to cross-compile for another cpu...it was hard
[22:44] <hubar_> hmm question, how do I change the setting in kopete where the left click from mouse opens up a chat window? Is there anyway?
[22:45] <fran> q pasa
[22:45] <Guest94490> comor
[22:45] <Guest94490> y quien me lo cambia?
[22:48] <leo> oi, alguem que fala pt ai!!!
[22:49] <Mamarok> !pt | leo
[22:49] <leo> Valeu!!!
[22:53] <fran> hi
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> howdy
[22:54] <Guest70987> na
[22:55] <costerode> ho
[22:55] <costerode> la
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> yo
[23:00]  * gunner is new to ubuntu and has a few questions about administration settings if anyone could answer
[23:00] <Mamarok> !ask | GUNNER
[23:00] <GUNNER> ok
[23:02] <ign0ramus> anyone know how to effectively get rid of pcspkr in Jaunty?  I have System Beep at 0 in Alsamixer, and have removed the pcspkr module, but there's still a soft beep when plugging in AC adapter...
[23:05] <GUNNER> How do I change administration settings so I have full access without having to login as root?
[23:05] <ign0ramus> GUNNER, that's what sudo or kdesudo are for
[23:06] <ign0ramus> GUNNER, you can edit sudoers to give your user more privileges, but it's not recommended
[23:08] <GUNNER> how do I use sudo ? As it sits right now when I click "properties" on any hard drive it says I have zero space available and i can't even create folders because I'm not the "owner" (in properties the owner is defined as root and i want to change it)
[23:08] <khaije|amalt> anyone know how if the kde4 version of konversation is available in any ubuntu repo's?
[23:09] <ign0ramus> khaije|amalt, there's a PPA for it, but it's 'experimental' and brings in a bunch of other things.  best to just get the svn version ;)
[23:10] <khaije|amalt> ign0ramus: i'd used it in the past, it was pretty stable wouldn't you say?
[23:10] <ign0ramus> khaije|amalt, i'm using it now ;)
[23:11] <ign0ramus> GUNNER, to change ownership, you would use the 'chown' command
[23:11] <ign0ramus> GUNNER, but are your other hard drives/partitions mounted?
[23:11] <khaije|amalt> ign0ramus: do you have the ppa url handy, can't find it
[23:12] <GUNNER> I can mount and dismount and access the drives, they just act as if they are read only
[23:12] <GUNNER> how do I use the 'chown' command?
[23:12] <ign0ramus> khaije|amalt, here, but i wouldn't recommend it: http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Kubuntu
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> GUNNER: chown <user> /path/to/file
[23:14] <ign0ramus> GUNNER, here's a good guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> GUNNER: or you can chown an entire folder and subdirs with: chown -R <user> /path/to/folder
[23:14] <ign0ramus> GUNNER, it's easy to copy and paste a bunch of commands, but it's best to learn what the commands are doing ;)
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> GUNNER: if the folders are not yours you wil need sudo
[23:15] <GUNNER> cool, thanks I'll read up on it, I don't want commands as much as I want to understand them
[23:15] <ign0ramus> GUNNER, that's the way, grassahoppa!
[23:15] <Alonea> for the hardware people, can I safely assume I am in big trouble when the bios will not post and after removing all components (hdd, cdrom) and even the ram there has been absolutely no post, no error beeps.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> GUNNER: man <some command here>
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> GUNNER: theres even: man man
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> GUNNER: a man page for the man pages
[23:17] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, i read man pages all the time, but a lot of people find them not user-friendly :/
[23:17] <GUNNER> man meaning manual?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> GUNNER: yep
[23:17] <Alonea> however power appears to be working (if cdrom is in, I can open it, fans are spinning on cpu, etc.) so either bad mobo or bios corrupted?
[23:17] <ign0ramus> GUNNER, yep "man pages" = manual pages
[23:17] <sotomayor_> can anyone here help me install ubuntu 8.10 hardy version lts on my laptop?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: i know. i guess its because they arent pretty enough
[23:18] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, just like people who don't like my beloved htop :'(
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> !info htop
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> i just use ps -ef | grep <whatever>
[23:19] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, but you won't get the whole picture that way, but that's a great way to find a process :)
[23:19] <khaije|amalt> ign0ramus: i can always pin it, but are the experimental libs really iffy?
[23:20] <ign0ramus> khaije|amalt, the ones on the Konversation page - yes.  I made a mess of my system with them just yesterday ;)
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: true but its rare i need the whole picture :). Good to know though incase i do
[23:20] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, it's just a prettier, handier version of 'top'
[23:21] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, do you have pcspkr muted?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: at the first install yes
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: god yes
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: i have a script to gut the system of extrenuous guff, install nvidia goodness and install flash plugin
[23:23] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, i know... i've done it since Feisty, but i've done everything i can think of, and i still get a little soft beep when unplugging/plugging in the lappy
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> hmm, i'd check sound alerts
[23:23] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, i've rm'd the module, blacklisted said module, and have System Beep at 0 in alsamixer, and yet i still get the little beep
[23:24] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, it's not part of kde sound, its the actual pc speaker
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: if you run: amixer -q set PCM 0% mute
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: see if it still happens
[23:24] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, that i haven't done ^ ... lemme try
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: it just sets volume to 0
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: i'm a cli geek
[23:25] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, i know ;)
[23:25] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, i have to restart X to test?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> nar no need
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> just plug stuff in, see if it happens
[23:25] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, just plugged in AC adapter ... still the same faint beep
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> amixer -q set PCM 100% unmute
[23:26] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, let me see
[23:26] <khaije|amalt> it seems like ubuntu bollucks up repo ppa pinning
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: that just sets it all to full again
[23:27] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, alsamixer still reports Beep at 0
[23:28] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, on every version previous to Jaunty "rmmod pcspkr" worked just fine... don't know what else has changed :/
[23:28] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, well, at least it's very soft, and not that godawful screech that makes everyone in a library look up :)
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: yeah works here too. i also cut the wires to the stupid pc speaker too
[23:29] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, that was the "fix" on some Debian forums i was reading regarding this issue :)
[23:29] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, although, the beep can be helpful when signalling hardware distress/failure
[23:30] <makuseru> Where are they Keyboard and Mouse settings at?
[23:31] <ign0ramus> ActionParsnip, googling the error: "ERROR: Module pcspkr does not exist in /proc/modules" brings up many threads about this, but the fix is usually to cut the wire :D
[23:31] <khaije|amalt> anyone know how to pin a ppa repo? it seems like the names are the same so i'm not sure what to call it to identify it
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> ign0ramus: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1139234.html
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> khaije|amalt: how do you mean pin?
[23:33] <khaije|amalt> ActionParsnip: using the preferences file in the /etc/apt directory
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> khaije|amalt: do you mean you want to ADD a repository?
[23:35] <khaije|amalt> ActionParsnip: no i've already added it, but i'd like it to be available but not automatically used (http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning)
[23:35] <khaije|amalt> !bot
[23:35] <khaije|amalt> !pinning
[23:36] <khaije|amalt> it makes it easy to blend repos that might otherwise not play nice together with a high level of control and certainty
[23:44] <sotomayor_> i have a problem installing ubuntu on my acer aspire 5515 laptop i have a 32 bit windows vista but now i want to install ubuntu hardy version 8.10 L.T.S....after I get pass the linux kernel loading it says "udevd-event[1526] : run_program: '/sbin/moprobe' abnormal exit....Busybox v1.13 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu12) Built- in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built in commands. (initramfs)
[23:46] <Byron> Hello all.
[23:46] <khaije|amalt> ActionParsnip: ign0ramus: you can add that experimental ppa non-obtrusively by adding this (http://pastebin.com/m16d4a4fc) to your /etc/apt/preferecnes file
[23:46] <ign0ramus> khaije|amalt, good info to know :)
[23:47] <ign0ramus> sotomayor_, LTS is ubuntu only, and Hardy is 8.04... please clarify
....well i dont know how to clarify i'm very new to linux/ubuntu
[23:49] <ign0ramus> sotomayor_, firstly, are you trying to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[23:49] <jb_> 4
[23:50] <jb_> tetranode
[23:50] <jb_> no thanks
[23:52] <sotomayor_> ubuntu
.....ubuntu
[23:53] <ign0ramus> sotomayor_, you will probably find better support visiting #ubuntu , but it does sound like a hardware issue
[23:54] <Makuseru> Every time i try to open kpackagekit my computer freezes. Does anyone know why this would happen?
......well so far i've changed the sata boot options from the bootmanager and tried to do a cd check but i still get the same message....
[23:56] <ign0ramus> sotomayor_, if you pastebin'd the output of 'lspci', someone may be able to identify a particular piece of hardware that may cause issues...
[23:56] <ign0ramus> sotomayor_, what model Aspire is this?
....well i cant because it's on my laptop and i'm on my desktop relaying messages with you all trying to fix the laptop...it's an acer aspire 5515 laptop
[23:58] <harjot__> ign0ramus: remember me :)
[23:58] <ign0ramus> harjot__, you are my favorite 12 year old punjabi!
[23:58] <draik> Hey there ign0ramus
[23:58] <ign0ramus> sup draik :)
[23:58] <harjot__> ign0ramus: LOL
[23:59] <draik> Nothing much. Fighting with my desktop still for USB and Network support
[23:59] <ign0ramus> draik, STILL dropping connection?
[23:59] <draik> Yup
[23:59] <ign0ramus> draik, ergh
[23:59] <ign0ramus> draik, have you tried the 2.6.30 kernel?