[03:13] <gatotkatja> hello
[03:13] <gatotkatja> can I do this: --seed alsa-driver
[03:13] <gatotkatja> ??
[13:14] <rjune_wrk> Is there a hardware emulator for ARM that's worthwhile to work with?
[13:15] <dpb> Qemu?
[13:15] <ogra> not yet, lool is working on getting qemu support armv6/7
[13:15] <rjune_wrk> will Qemu emulate arm?
[13:15] <ogra> yes, but not the platform we support in karmic
[13:15] <rjune_wrk> joy
[13:16] <ogra> current qemu-system-arm only works with versatile (armv5)
[13:16] <ogra> which was fine for jaunty but wont help with karmic
[13:17] <rjune_wrk> ok, so hardware is required at this point
[13:18] <ogra> well, the qemu changes should be in soon
[13:18] <rjune_wrk> define soon?
[13:18] <ogra> then ... :)
[13:18] <rjune_wrk> *sigh*
[13:19] <rjune_wrk> Do you know if the GL stuff and clutter compile on the test systems yet?
[13:19] <ogra> i know lool has some code already but i'm not sure about the status ... he might already have a püackage in a PPA ...
[13:19] <ogra> (he's on a conf call as i am, wait until thats done, i'm sure he'll respond here)
[13:25] <rjune_wrk> ok
[13:54] <lool> Hi
[13:55] <lool> rjune_wrk: What are you trying to do?
[13:56] <rjune_wrk> lool: emulate the nonexistant freescale babbage
[13:56] <lool> rjune_wrk: qemu 0.9+ supports v7 CPUs fine (via cortex-a8), however it only supports up to 256 MB of RAM in versatile; I've been working on building a qemu for buildds which would have more emulated RAM, support v7 and be as fast as possible: SMP if possible
[13:57] <lool> rjune_wrk: I think it's a large project to emulate imx51 fully if you're not already familiar with qemu; perhaps you should wait for the platform to be available in volume instead?
[13:57] <rjune_wrk> I don't want to write the emulator.
[13:57] <rjune_wrk> If the emulator works though, I wanted to use it to poke at UNR
[13:58] <rjune_wrk> lool: you're on ogra's team right?
[14:07] <lool> rjune_wrk: We are in the same team
[14:08] <lool> rjune_wrk: You can emulate ARM systems with qemu, just not imx51/Babbage
[14:08] <lool> rjune_wrk: I don't think UNR in qemu is going to bring you a long way
[14:15] <rjune_wrk> You mean you don't  think I'll get very far with it?
[14:15] <rjune_wrk> lool: ^
[14:16] <rjune_wrk> I don't either, which is the point.
[14:18] <lool> rjune_wrk: I don't think you will be happy with UNR in Qemu, no
[14:19] <lool> It's going to be pure software clutter/gl rendering so terribly slow, even more so under armel emulation...
[14:19] <lool> And there's no GL passthrough for Qemu nor any emulated card with GL
[14:19] <rjune_wrk> lool: PM for a sec?
[14:19] <lool> rjune_wrk: Are you a registered freenode user?  (I don't see messages from non-registered users)
[14:19] <rjune_wrk> I am
[14:20] <lool> Well feel free, sure
[14:20] <rjune_wrk> I just applied for a position on your team
[16:14] <mcasadevall> I need someone who's got an ARM/karmic box or board running to test something
[16:14] <mcasadevall> any takers?
[16:15] <ogra> anything big ?
[16:15] <mcasadevall> ogra, thunderbird from a PPA
[16:15] <ogra> or time consuming ?
[16:15] <ogra> url ...
[16:15] <mcasadevall> ogra, not really, just grab TB2 from my PPA, make sure it installs
[16:16] <mcasadevall> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mcasadevall/+archive/ppa
[16:16] <mcasadevall> You might need https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa as well
[16:16] <mcasadevall> (asac uploaded the new build-deps to karmic, but I'm not sure if they built yet_
[16:18] <ogra> Hole:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages [2969B] ...
[16:18] <ogra> somehow i think it would be nice of apt to tell me *which* ppa
[16:19]  * ogra has that line for each PPA ... indeed i wont know every from which one that line comes ...
[16:19] <mcasadevall> heh
[16:19] <ogra> its pulling packages
[16:21] <mcasadevall> \o/
[16:22] <ogra> running TB .... it wants me to import stuff ...
[16:22] <mcasadevall> That's normal, the segfault happens after that, but before the main screen
[16:22] <ogra> it should really be cleverer
[16:22] <mcasadevall> so if you get the main window, we're in business
[16:23] <ogra> got it on my laptop ... (through ssh -Y from the babbage2)
[16:24] <mcasadevall> ogra, cool, I'll tell asac to upload (I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything in my local environment causing a false postive)
[16:24] <ogra> its a bit annoying if you dont want to set up an account ...
[16:24] <ogra> addressbook works too
[16:24] <ogra> mcasadevall, i'd say well done :)
[16:25] <mcasadevall> ogra, sweet. I already tried downloading my inbox so i think its more or less fixed
[16:25] <mcasadevall> (although I won't be suprised was if someone broke it with a well placed advanced option)
[16:33] <persia> Quick.  try all the plugins :)
[16:34] <ogra> ther are called extensions in thunderbird :P
[16:36] <persia> Oh, right.