[03:13] hello [03:13] can I do this: --seed alsa-driver [03:13] ?? === shenki_ is now known as shenki === ogra__ is now known as ogra [13:14] Is there a hardware emulator for ARM that's worthwhile to work with? [13:15] Qemu? [13:15] not yet, lool is working on getting qemu support armv6/7 [13:15] will Qemu emulate arm? [13:15] yes, but not the platform we support in karmic [13:15] joy [13:16] current qemu-system-arm only works with versatile (armv5) [13:16] which was fine for jaunty but wont help with karmic [13:17] ok, so hardware is required at this point [13:18] well, the qemu changes should be in soon [13:18] define soon? [13:18] then ... :) [13:18] *sigh* [13:19] Do you know if the GL stuff and clutter compile on the test systems yet? [13:19] i know lool has some code already but i'm not sure about the status ... he might already have a püackage in a PPA ... [13:19] (he's on a conf call as i am, wait until thats done, i'm sure he'll respond here) [13:25] ok [13:54] Hi [13:55] rjune_wrk: What are you trying to do? [13:56] lool: emulate the nonexistant freescale babbage [13:56] rjune_wrk: qemu 0.9+ supports v7 CPUs fine (via cortex-a8), however it only supports up to 256 MB of RAM in versatile; I've been working on building a qemu for buildds which would have more emulated RAM, support v7 and be as fast as possible: SMP if possible [13:57] rjune_wrk: I think it's a large project to emulate imx51 fully if you're not already familiar with qemu; perhaps you should wait for the platform to be available in volume instead? [13:57] I don't want to write the emulator. [13:57] If the emulator works though, I wanted to use it to poke at UNR [13:58] lool: you're on ogra's team right? [14:07] rjune_wrk: We are in the same team [14:08] rjune_wrk: You can emulate ARM systems with qemu, just not imx51/Babbage [14:08] rjune_wrk: I don't think UNR in qemu is going to bring you a long way [14:15] You mean you don't think I'll get very far with it? [14:15] lool: ^ [14:16] I don't either, which is the point. [14:18] rjune_wrk: I don't think you will be happy with UNR in Qemu, no [14:19] It's going to be pure software clutter/gl rendering so terribly slow, even more so under armel emulation... [14:19] And there's no GL passthrough for Qemu nor any emulated card with GL [14:19] lool: PM for a sec? [14:19] rjune_wrk: Are you a registered freenode user? (I don't see messages from non-registered users) [14:19] I am [14:20] Well feel free, sure [14:20] I just applied for a position on your team [16:14] I need someone who's got an ARM/karmic box or board running to test something [16:14] any takers? [16:15] anything big ? [16:15] ogra, thunderbird from a PPA [16:15] or time consuming ? [16:15] url ... [16:15] ogra, not really, just grab TB2 from my PPA, make sure it installs [16:16] https://edge.launchpad.net/~mcasadevall/+archive/ppa [16:16] You might need https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa as well [16:16] (asac uploaded the new build-deps to karmic, but I'm not sure if they built yet_ [16:18] Hole:7 http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages [2969B] ... [16:18] somehow i think it would be nice of apt to tell me *which* ppa [16:19] * ogra has that line for each PPA ... indeed i wont know every from which one that line comes ... [16:19] heh [16:19] its pulling packages [16:21] \o/ [16:22] running TB .... it wants me to import stuff ... [16:22] That's normal, the segfault happens after that, but before the main screen [16:22] it should really be cleverer [16:22] so if you get the main window, we're in business [16:23] got it on my laptop ... (through ssh -Y from the babbage2) [16:24] ogra, cool, I'll tell asac to upload (I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything in my local environment causing a false postive) [16:24] its a bit annoying if you dont want to set up an account ... [16:24] addressbook works too [16:24] mcasadevall, i'd say well done :) [16:25] ogra, sweet. I already tried downloading my inbox so i think its more or less fixed [16:25] (although I won't be suprised was if someone broke it with a well placed advanced option) [16:33] Quick. try all the plugins :) [16:34] ther are called extensions in thunderbird :P [16:36] Oh, right. === Martyn_ is now known as Martyn