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| zniavre | just discover a small project i find really well done > tint2 an alternative panel | 09:55 |
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| zniavre | http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3820/capturezvk.png | 09:55 |
| kwwii | omg michael jackson died | 10:19 |
| macvr | dashua: have you considered a transparent .png for the panel? rather than a traditional coloring? | 10:29 |
| mat_t | Chaotic_, hi! | 12:20 |
| Chaotic_ | mat_t: Hi | 12:21 |
| mat_t | Chaotic_ is Otto Greenslade, leading the visual design efforts in the design team | 12:22 |
| mat_t | (that's for the round of introductions) | 12:22 |
| mat_t | Please feel free to poke him from time to time :) | 12:23 |
| macvr | thorwil: any plans for new boot submissions? | 12:26 |
| thorwil | macvr: no | 12:27 |
| macvr | :( | 12:27 |
| andreasn | hello Chaotic_, I'm andreasn, primary GNOME design. Feel free to ping me if you have any questions on anything | 12:28 |
| andreasn | primary GNOME designer I mean | 12:28 |
| thorwil | macvr: asking me before i even read that announcement was a bt early, anyway ;p | 12:29 |
| andreasn | Chaotic_, apparently I'm very good of knowing what every icon name used in GNOME is by heart :) | 12:30 |
| macvr | well... no one disturb kwwii for a few days , he is in mourning ;p | 12:31 |
| andreasn | mat_t, are you involved in the 100 papercuts thing? | 12:32 |
| robsta | hello Chaotic_, i'm the css engine guy | 12:40 |
| macvr | andreasn: papercuts is a big mess :( ... | 12:40 |
| andreasn | macvr, are all 100 filled? I just found another, but I can probably report it as a regular bug | 12:40 |
| macvr | andreasn: there are more than 1000! filed! | 12:41 |
| andreasn | apparently gtkfilechooser and nautilus have different ideas on how invisible folders should be sorted | 12:41 |
| macvr | sorting them is huge problem ,since most are feature requests.... | 12:41 |
| andreasn | but it is a terribly minor issue, so I'm certain people have very different ideas on how it should be solved :) | 12:42 |
| macvr | andreasn: file it , and paste link... i'll confirm it | 12:42 |
| macvr | i'll been looking into the papercuts , for past 2 days and so many are invalid... | 12:43 |
| macvr | andreasn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut < just make sure it fits the criteria , also adding your fix would make it easier | 12:44 |
| andreasn | "Put briefly, a paper cut is a trivially fixable usability bug that the average user would encounter on his/her first day of using a brand new installation of Ubuntu Desktop Edition*." | 12:44 |
| andreasn | hm, that would mean the hidden files thing would be invalid probably | 12:45 |
| andreasn | as a papercut, not as a bug | 12:45 |
| macvr | yup... | 12:46 |
| macvr | andreasn: i think i know the problem you are referring to... pls file a bug for that , the file order is so different in gtk and nautilus, since i have set always show hidden files.i would love to see a solution soon :) | 12:48 |
| andreasn | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587040 | 12:54 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 587040 in general "GTK+ and Nautilus have different ideas on sorting order" [Minor,Unconfirmed] | 12:55 |
| macvr | :) | 12:56 |
| Cimi_ | andreasn, I've just tested dolphin (kde4) | 12:57 |
| Cimi_ | andreasn, hidden files first | 12:57 |
| Cimi_ | it should be better to have the same behaviour accross different desktop environments | 12:58 |
| Cimi_ | http://git.gnome.org/cgit/nautilus/tree/libnautilus-private/nautilus-file.c | 13:07 |
| Cimi_ | line 2526 | 13:07 |
| Cimi_ | that's the function to patch | 13:07 |
| mat_t | andreasn: indeed | 14:15 |
| Chaotic_ | hello everyone :) | 14:18 |
| SiDi | Chaotic_: hiya | 14:39 |
| mat_t | andreasn, you've asked about paper cuts, this is the list of 100 we would like to get fixed: https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/karmic | 14:56 |
| andreasn | I wondered if you needed more of them, but if I understood correctly, you | 14:57 |
| andreasn | 're currently up to your necks in submitted papercuts | 14:57 |
| mat_t | andreasn: yes, we've had over 1100 submitted so far | 14:58 |
| andreasn | are the papercuts intended to be fixed primary by Ubuntu devs, or would you consider them good starting points for new developers? | 14:58 |
| andreasn | I met a guy at my neighbors house the other day that mentioned he "would like to fix something in Ubuntu" | 14:59 |
| mat_t | andreasn: anyone can submit a fix | 14:59 |
| mat_t | andreasn: there's more than enough bugs for everybody :) | 15:00 |
| andreasn | I'll point him to that list as well if I run into him again, I already pointed him to GNOME Love | 15:00 |
| mat_t | cool | 15:00 |
| mat_t | andreasn: there's a bunch of artwork bugs, too, that this group could help with | 15:02 |
| andreasn | I could look through it and see if it's something that could be forwarded upstream, do you have a URL? | 15:03 |
| mat_t | andreasn: you'd have to look through the list, I don't think we have a separate URL for artwork-related bugs | 15:10 |
| kwwii | https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bugs?field.searchtext=icon&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= is a good | 15:12 |
| mat_t | kwwii, you've won the award for the longest url ever pasted | 15:45 |
| mat_t | ;) | 15:45 |
| SiDi | wherewherewhere | 15:46 |
| mat_t | SiDi, I think you just missed it | 15:46 |
| SiDi | damn | 15:46 |
| mat_t | https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bugs?field.searchtext=icon&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_p | 15:46 |
| mat_t | ackage= | 15:46 |
| SiDi | nice | 15:46 |
| mat_t | how can you *not* love Launchpad | 15:47 |
| mat_t | ;) | 15:47 |
| kwwii | hehe | 15:48 |
| kwwii | all I did was go to the bugs for the project and search for "icon" ;) | 15:49 |
| mat_t | kwwii, and you'd imagine it would be something like https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/search&string=icon or something... | 15:51 |
| kwwii | mat_t: yeah, no doubt...everything that I typed in is in the first 50 letters or so | 15:52 |
| kwwii | the rest is just baggage | 15:53 |
| * SiDi yawns | 15:53 | |
| kwwii | so any ideas on the "sound and video" category icon? http://sinecera.de/player2b.png is the wip | 15:54 |
| SiDi | btw kwwii ive got a "final" version of those notification-battery icons on my lp page | 15:54 |
| SiDi | what shall i do with them ? | 15:54 |
| kwwii | SiDi: did you post a link to the list? | 15:54 |
| kwwii | or send me an email with a link? | 15:54 |
| SiDi | its on ayatana | 15:55 |
| kwwii | I like launchpad but it has been a while since I browsed through pages on it for fun :p | 15:55 |
| andreasn | kwwii, how does it look in the size it will be displayed in 95%+ of the time (ie 24x24)? | 15:55 |
| kwwii | andreasn: actually, that icon looks pretty good small, but I am only making that for the larger sizes | 15:56 |
| SiDi | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sidi/+junk/notification-battery/files | 15:56 |
| kwwii | andreasn: http://sinecera.de/player2b-b.png is the large svg exported at 24x24...it is amazingly not-shit :p | 15:57 |
| SiDi | kwwii: 404 | 15:58 |
| kwwii | i get the feeling that I am on the ayatana irc server but not on the mailing list | 15:58 |
| kwwii | oops | 15:59 |
| kwwii | andreasn: http://sinecera.de/player2b-2.png | 15:59 |
| kwwii | SiDi: I'll put them in the package...I will be updating it very soon (within days) in karmic | 16:02 |
| SiDi | kwwii: they seem ok with the idea, but i dont know who will implement it. if it's for me i'll do that in early september, i think | 16:02 |
| SiDi | since its just rewriting a few strings in the app.. but i just need to know they wont patch it again and again after (cause g-p-m changes a lot latelyt) | 16:03 |
| SiDi | cheers kwwii | 16:03 |
| kwwii | I'll ping you next week when I know more and we can discuss any problems | 16:03 |
| kwwii | :) | 16:03 |
| andreasn | kwwii, looks sane, but would it perhaps end up a bit complex if put together with other icons. Maybe get rid of 1 of 3 elements? | 16:07 |
| SiDi | kwwii: okies | 16:08 |
| kwwii | andreasn: yeah...I as thinking the same | 16:08 |
| kwwii | the play button on top is kinda overkill anyway | 16:08 |
| andreasn | agreed | 16:08 |
| andreasn | did you have any more luck with the firefox close icon bug? | 16:09 |
| kwwii | well, I found out that firefox does indeed screw up the lookup | 16:09 |
| andreasn | I wonder if fixing the order in index.theme and replacing the 16x16 with the image I attached to the bug would help | 16:09 |
| andreasn | oh, so it is a FF bug after all? | 16:09 |
| kwwii | so I made a new 16x16 pixel icon which is flat (and really only like 14x14) | 16:09 |
| kwwii | so in the end we can work around the problem | 16:10 |
| kwwii | but this solution kinda sucks because nautilus does the lookup correctly and now finds the 16x16 pixel version before the 12x12 | 16:10 |
| andreasn | would you like to make a comment on that in the Mozilla bugzilla? | 16:10 |
| andreasn | I wouldn't count on that it would go into 3.5, as that is drawing really close | 16:11 |
| andreasn | but perhaps in 3.6 | 16:11 |
| * kwwii makes a bugzilla account | 16:12 | |
| kwwii | it takes a lot of work to comment on a bug at mozilla | 16:12 |
| andreasn | it kind of keep me away from reporting bugs on certain products as well :( | 16:14 |
| kwwii | well, I have now added my mustard to the sandwich... | 16:17 |
| mat_t | kwwii: any thoughts on the boot splash submissions? Should we have a separate page for it? | 16:43 |
| mat_t | kwwii: sorry had to reboot | 16:55 |
| kwwii | mat_t: yeah, we can put it under boot or such | 17:03 |
| mat_t | kwwii: cool | 17:08 |
| kwwii | added it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot | 17:10 |
| kwwii | once the internet wakes up launchpad and the servers boot | 17:11 |
| kwwii | i hope james has some kind of electrical implant in his head that causes him pain every time a person waits for a wiki page to load | 17:12 |
| knome | lol | 17:12 |
| asomething | i'm not sure anyone could survive that! | 17:13 |
| kwwii | ;) | 17:15 |
| robsta | hey thorwil | 17:26 |
| thorwil | hi robsta | 17:26 |
| robsta | thorwil: single canvas is much too slow, i need to extract the widgets, like the icon theme does | 17:26 |
| robsta | thorwil: sorry, that means more delay | 17:27 |
| robsta | thorwil: the problem is that with the plates the whole svg has to be rendered each time, and the rest is just clipped | 17:28 |
| thorwil | robsta: delay is currently not a problem for me :) | 17:28 |
| robsta | thorwil: but for me, i want a functional theme :) | 17:28 |
| thorwil | robsta: so, do you go for spliting at use-time, not design-time? | 17:29 |
| thorwil | as in, the template can stay as one huge SVG, it just can't be used directly? | 17:29 |
| robsta | thorwil: yes exactly | 17:29 |
| thorwil | phew :) | 17:29 |
| robsta | the plan is that when you run "make dist" to create the tarball, the cache is created automatically | 17:30 |
| robsta | so you can still use the widget factory or whatever, it will just take long to start | 17:30 |
| * kwwii takes his son to see transformers2 ...have fun | 17:31 | |
| kwwii | mat_t: have a nice vacation, see you in a couple of weeks | 17:31 |
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