| niadh | I have the final two bugs for todays wiki page, both are transcoding issues in banshee, in both cases I have been asked to see if there are upstream bugs | 00:03 |
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| niadh | Shall I just open two upstream bugs, reference them there and cross off the final two? | 00:03 |
| xteejx | bug 124387 any ideas? | 00:04 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 124387 in update-manager "update manager lock file not always removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124387 | 00:04 |
| micahg | sure niadh, thanks for all your help today | 00:04 |
| niadh | micahg: Your welcome, it's been a while since I managed to get down and do this again, but I'm glad I did | 00:05 |
| micahg | niadh: be sure to include a link back to launchpad noting it's in our tracker as well | 00:05 |
| niadh | Oh yes, of course ;) | 00:05 |
| micahg | :) | 00:06 |
| xteejx | micahg, would you mind taking a quick look at my bug, it seems pretty self explanatory, so i was going to mark it triaged, medium - what do you think? | 00:09 |
| xteejx | or if anyone else can have a quick little look at bug 124387 please? | 00:12 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 124387 in update-manager "update manager lock file not always removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124387 | 00:12 |
| * micahg is looking | 00:12 | |
| xteejx | ooo thank smicah :D | 00:12 |
| micahg | xteejx: we're missing one key item though | 00:17 |
| micahg | the version of update-manager | 00:17 |
| xteejx | i was actually just thinking that lol | 00:18 |
| xteejx | micahg, after thats done is this safe to mark as triaged, as it seems that it would be pretty simple for devs to see what the problem is. | 00:20 |
| micahg | I think so | 00:20 |
| xteejx | micahg, cool cool, thank you :) | 00:20 |
| micahg | after all the important info is moved to the description of course :) | 00:21 |
| micahg | no, thank you :) | 00:21 |
| xteejx | no, thank you you hehe | 00:22 |
| micahg | xteejx: BTW, I've never run into that problem AFAIK | 00:22 |
| xteejx | me neither... | 00:23 |
| bdmurray | micahg: does bugs/status read better now? | 00:31 |
| micahg | bdmurray: BTW, I fixed the 3 bugs that I labeled incorrectly | 00:32 |
| micahg | bdmurray: much better | 00:33 |
| micahg | thank you | 00:33 |
| bdmurray | no problem, thanks for pointing it out | 00:34 |
| mrooney | Can anyone on Jaunty look in System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications and see if thunderbird appears twice in "Mail Reader" ? | 01:20 |
| mrooney | or also Karmic | 01:22 |
| nellery | mrooney: it does | 01:23 |
| nellery | once as Thunderbird, once as Mozilla Thunderbird | 01:23 |
| mrooney | oh okay, I can't find a bug although it seems like one would exist | 01:23 |
| mrooney | nellery: I think it might be related to how thunderbird ships /usr/bin/thunderbird and /usr/bin/mozilla-thunderbird which both link to the same place, though maybe not | 01:24 |
| mrooney | I guess the bug is most appropriate in thunderbird | 01:25 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:11 |
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| Kangarooo | Hello. I Have big question and long time im having problem with this. 1/2 year. How to start programming in RoR Netbeans on Ubuntu and install required packages from Canonical maintained packeges.? https://answers.launchpad.net/netbeans/+question/75371 | 09:31 |
| joop12 | hi | 10:32 |
| joop12 | good job messing up binaries in /usr after reboot | 10:32 |
| joop12 | this is why there should be separate /usr partition and it should be ro. | 10:32 |
| joop12 | For the end user, the system kills itself afte hard reboot (needed because system locks up doe to FAIL in using nvidia and screens switching). | 10:34 |
| joop12 | 1. switch user | 10:34 |
| joop12 | 2. frozen computer | 10:34 |
| joop12 | 3. have to hard reboot | 10:34 |
| joop12 | 4. /usr files are messed up, lol = fail | 10:34 |
| joop12 | points of failure: a) nvidia drivers are crappy b) would be nice to have /usr in ro c) how can reading a file cause files corruption | 10:35 |
| joop12 | Perhaps simple fix to this all is to always use noatime? | 10:35 |
| micahg1 | joop12: is there a bug #? | 10:56 |
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| joop12 | not yet | 10:57 |
| micahg | well it depends on teh fs if the binaries would've been affected | 10:57 |
| micahg | were you on battery power? | 10:58 |
| joop12 | PC | 10:58 |
| micahg | PC what? | 10:58 |
| joop12 | PC, baby, do you use it | 10:59 |
| joop12 | "PC" as in "PC not laptop, no batter" | 10:59 |
| micahg | ah | 10:59 |
| micahg | what filesystem? | 11:00 |
| joop12 | ubuntu is really a fail to support remotelly via phone | 11:00 |
| micahg | are you supporting Ubuntu? | 11:00 |
| joop12 | trying to, its so hard | 11:00 |
| * joop12 facepalms | 11:00 | |
| micahg | this is actually the bug triage channel | 11:01 |
| joop12 | / is on JFS | 11:01 |
| joop12 | /urs did not have separate partition | 11:02 |
| micahg | I'm not familiar with the recovery of jfs | 11:02 |
| joop12 | but in the end, what user sees? | 11:02 |
| * micahg is not following | 11:02 | |
| joop12 | I reboot (for milion of reasons) ubuntu then it is killed and I can not work - it was so much better with windows, hell even windows 95, 97, me, xp - just reboot it and it works | 11:03 |
| micahg | hmmm | 11:03 |
| micahg | why did you choose jfs? | 11:03 |
| joop12 | this is user experience. this should be a serious meta bug | 11:03 |
| micahg | ext3 is the default | 11:03 |
| joop12 | dunno, why not? if it sucks then it should not be an option to select | 11:03 |
| micahg | joop12: part of the freedom of linux is choices | 11:03 |
| micahg | defaults are tehre for a reason though | 11:04 |
| joop12 | better hide choices that are know to sucl | 11:04 |
| joop12 | also there should be some repair mechanism | 11:04 |
| joop12 | X11 messed itself up (corrupted binaries). how to fix?? Im linux exp user and I dont know that out of head | 11:04 |
| micahg | joop12: there is a recovery mode | 11:04 |
| micahg | joop12: how do you know it's corrupt binaries? | 11:05 |
| joop12 | im in root console. what now? aptitude reinstall what? | 11:05 |
| joop12 | error says that /usr/... somethig.. invalid ELF | 11:05 |
| micahg | sounds like you might have installed the wrong drivers | 11:05 |
| micahg | but you might want to check in #ubuntu | 11:05 |
| joop12 | worked always untill reboot | 11:05 |
| joop12 | on another bug. how is THAT user friendly? look: | 11:06 |
| joop12 | - ok whatever we can not fix it. just shut the computer down | 11:06 |
| joop12 | - ok how? | 11:06 |
| joop12 | - shutdown minus eh now | 11:06 |
| joop12 | - ?????? | 11:06 |
| micahg | If you have user experience requests, you can file them on launchpad.net, or even better on brainstorm.ubuntu.com where they can be discussed | 11:06 |
| joop12 | there should be simplier command | 11:06 |
| joop12 | actually it is, "shutdown space minus eh minus now" now try doing that with no english speakers | 11:07 |
| micahg | joop12: in the gui, there's a logout button | 11:07 |
| joop12 | "shutdown minus eh minus November Omega Wilson" | 11:07 |
| * joop12 wonders if attacking the soviet russia would be easier then simply turning off ubuntu while in console (repair) heh. alpha-bravo-one-five, go. | 11:08 | |
| micahg | joop12: this channel is for already filed bugs actually, we have a lot of channels available for all types of ubuntu type discussions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat | 11:09 |
| joop12 | the above I see as bugs to be resolved | 11:09 |
| joop12 | is this not ok? | 11:10 |
| micahg | yes, but in order to resolve them, they have to be filed | 11:10 |
| micahg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 11:10 |
| xteejx | I'm trying to upstream a KDE bug. What version is the current KDE in Jaunty? | 11:15 |
| micahg | !info kdebase | 11:16 |
| ubot4 | micahg: kdebase (source: kdebase): base applications from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu4 (jaunty), package size 69 kB, installed size 180 kB | 11:16 |
| xteejx | hehe thanks micahg :) | 11:17 |
| micahg | np xteejx :) | 11:17 |
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| enterneo_ | I am trying to install 9.04 64bit on EXT4, but ubiquity is crashing at 94% (when installing grub), any help? | 13:00 |
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| kblin | hi folks | 14:44 |
| kblin | I seem to have an issue with networking after returning from a pm-hibernate. that'd still be a bug in the kernel package rather than pm-utils, right? | 14:45 |
| BUGabundo | boas ppl | 14:54 |
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| reem | exit | 15:55 |
| reem | woops | 15:55 |
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| * BUGabundo hands reem a '/' ! | 15:58 | |
| bcurtiswx | good morning everyone | 16:00 |
| bcurtiswx | (in the US) :P | 16:01 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh: i wanted to talk to you about empathy and you said you were going to work on things with that? | 16:01 |
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| hggdh | bcurtiswx, pong | 16:32 |
| * bcurtiswx waves to hggdh | 16:32 | |
| * BUGabundo enjoys te wind | 16:32 | |
| * bcurtiswx laughs at BUGabundos lesser typing abilities :P | 16:33 | |
| * hggdh did not feel *any* wind in Texas today | 16:33 | |
| skully_ | just a very hot wind | 16:33 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh: were you going to work on patching empathy for the userlists with IRC? | 16:33 |
| hggdh | bcurtiswx, yes, I want to start looking at -idle -- it is still sort of lacking in the controls I have on xchat | 16:34 |
| hggdh | and, for the userlist, yes | 16:34 |
| bcurtiswx | hasn't xchat stopped being supported for a long time? | 16:34 |
| hggdh | I do not really know. Works For Me, at least most of the time | 16:34 |
| bcurtiswx | yeah, i mean adding commands to idle like "/msg" and a room list would be a great start | 16:35 |
| hggdh | and being able to change a nick, and marking oneself away, and having whois, etc, etc | 16:36 |
| hggdh | which *might* already be implemented, and I just failed to find how to do it | 16:36 |
| bcurtiswx | yeah, i mean id like it if there would be a triangle in the IRC userlist marking the away users | 16:36 |
| bcurtiswx | and obviously the space between usernames less | 16:37 |
| bcurtiswx | the empathy userlist is a great example of how the IRC userlist should look like | 16:37 |
| bcurtiswx | well i have mine set to make the space between users a minimum | 16:37 |
| bcurtiswx | so i guess thats not default | 16:38 |
| hggdh | I guess so. Also, the user's documentation needs some love | 16:42 |
| bcurtiswx | BUGabundo: do you have an up-to-date karmic install? | 16:43 |
| BUGabundo | yoe | 16:43 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 16:43 |
| bcurtiswx | do you run compiz? | 16:44 |
| BUGabundo | yes, of course | 16:44 |
| bcurtiswx | any problems with it? | 16:44 |
| BUGabundo | no | 16:44 |
| bcurtiswx | can you turn it off then turn it on and see if you get any problems? | 16:44 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: http://fileland.bugabundo.net/fotos/Linux/Desktop | 16:45 |
| BUGabundo | no no no | 16:45 |
| BUGabundo | I will not test that | 16:45 |
| BUGabundo | :p | 16:45 |
| BUGabundo | last time I did, took me 4 days to get it working again | 16:45 |
| bcurtiswx | oh my | 16:46 |
| bcurtiswx | well anyone in here with a karmic install up-to-date can you turn off compiz and turn it on to see if it gives you problems? | 16:47 |
| BUGabundo | $ grep compi .bashrc | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo | alias compizB='DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace &' | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo | alias compizC='DISPLAY=:0 compiz --reload &' | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo | $ grep meta .bashrc | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo | alias metacityB='DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &' | 16:49 |
| BUGabundo | alias metacityC='DISPLAY=:0 metacity --reload &' | 16:49 |
| bcurtiswx | whats the size of your monitor? | 16:49 |
| * bcurtiswx pokes BUGabundo | 17:03 | |
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| bcurtiswx | what channel is for the documentation team? | 17:13 |
| BUGabundo | #ubuntu-docs ? | 17:14 |
| bcurtiswx | im in #ubuntu-doc, thats it | 17:15 |
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| hggdh_test | bcurtiswx: telepathy-idle git has more data on the userlist | 17:45 |
| calaen0 | Why does python in jaunty prefer system python packages over ones in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/ ... is this a bug? Can't find a report, and I would think a lot of people would be miffed about the change in behavior | 17:46 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh-test: what is git? | 17:47 |
| calaen0 | an annoying person. | 17:47 |
| calaen0 | also, a source control method =) like svn, bazaar, cvs etc | 17:47 |
| hggdh_test | heh. No it is the SCCS (Source Code Control System) in use upstream. The bleeding edge, one might say | 17:47 |
| BUGabundo | ahaahahah | 17:47 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh making GIT == trunk is so wrong :( | 17:48 |
| hggdh_test | calaen0: right, sorry, did not see your post explaining | 17:48 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh it can be any branch or release too | 17:48 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh-test: so the git has an update to idle that isn't in that PPA? | 17:48 |
| hggdh_test | BUGabundo: yes, it is an over-simplification. In my case, it is the master, not any other branch (which *might* be even more bleeding) | 17:49 |
| hggdh_test | bcurtiswx: it seems so | 17:49 |
| hggdh_test | not surprising, though | 17:49 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh-test: whats different then the PPA? | 17:50 |
| hggdh | each user now has an icon (in my case, all of them are green), and a second line stating the status (in my case, all "available" | 17:51 |
| hggdh | yeeeeee using two nick is fun | 17:51 |
| bcurtiswx | how can i use that? | 17:51 |
| hggdh_test | very much so | 17:51 |
| kklimonda | buu.. can't get refdbg to work... and it has next to no documentation :/ | 17:52 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh eheh I know the feeling | 17:53 |
| BUGabundo | now try 3 nicks on 4 PCs and a boucer! LO | 17:53 |
| BUGabundo | hey kklimonda [[]] | 17:53 |
| kklimonda | hey BUGabundo, how are you today? where have you been interviewed for job? :) | 17:54 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh_test: how cna i use that ? | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: went ok, thanks! hope they call me back!! | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | my horoscope was funny too: "Libra:don't worry about money" | 17:55 |
| bcurtiswx | yur a libra | 17:55 |
| bcurtiswx | me too | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: just open a another IRCclient with anohter nick | 17:56 |
| bcurtiswx | no, i mean the git to try the new userlist | 17:56 |
| hggdh_test | you must download the git versions, and make them | 17:57 |
| bcurtiswx | think they'll make it into the PPA soon? | 17:58 |
| BUGabundo | why? | 17:59 |
| BUGabundo | you should do it faster | 17:59 |
| hggdh_test | bcurtiswx: you can find the projects at http://git.collabora.co.uk/ ; then select the project you want (for example, telepathy-idle, and find the URL for the GIT | 18:00 |
| hggdh_test | then, on a terminal, run 'git clone <whatever URL>' | 18:01 |
| hggdh_test | er. Of course, you must have installed git | 18:01 |
| hggdh_test | For idle, you will probably need empathy., telepathy-idle, and telepathy-glib (perhaps others, have not checked yet) | 18:02 |
| BUGabundo | bye | 18:52 |
| micahg | ping jdstrand | 19:00 |
| jdstrand | hi | 19:00 |
| micahg | hi | 19:01 |
| micahg | I just read the document on security bug importance and had a question | 19:01 |
| kees | micahg: what's up? | 19:02 |
| micahg | for the bug I posted, I guess I forgot to mention there is a bot going around trying to exploit it | 19:02 |
| kees | ew | 19:02 |
| micahg | and it could allow arbitrary code execution | 19:02 |
| jdstrand | micahg: I thought it was only during setup? feel free to bump the priority with the reason | 19:02 |
| jdstrand | I'd say 'high' | 19:02 |
| kees | micahg: what's the bug#? | 19:03 |
| micahg | well, if the user doesn't disable the setup script, it can be used to rewrite the config, but I haven't evaluated it's possible effect on Ubuntu yet | 19:03 |
| micahg | bug 392324 | 19:03 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 392324 in phpmyadmin "CVE-2009-1285: Insufficient output sanitizing when generating configuration file" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392324 | 19:03 |
| micahg | I gues the question is do we allow the phpmyadmin setup to write to files? | 19:04 |
| kees | ah yeah, saw the Debian update go out on that. most people don't have phpmyadmin publically available, do they? | 19:04 |
| micahg | depends how careful people are | 19:04 |
| micahg | by default I think it is | 19:04 |
| jdstrand | that would be a rather poor default... | 19:06 |
| micahg | let me check | 19:06 |
| micahg | yes, after it's installed, it's accesible by default from /phpmyadmin on the server | 19:08 |
| jdstrand | I guess mark it up to High and mention the new details | 19:08 |
| micahg | ok | 19:09 |
| micahg | actually, looking at it now, we might not be affected | 19:14 |
| micahg | that's what I wasn't sure about | 19:14 |
| micahg | we don't have a writeable config file anywhere | 19:15 |
| micahg | by default at least | 19:15 |
| micahg | so, I think I'll leave it as medium | 19:16 |
| micahg | by default I don't think this can be exploited | 19:17 |
| micahg | sorry for the noise | 19:19 |
| jdstrand | micahg: that is good news, thanks for looking into it :) | 19:42 |
| BUGabundo | pedro_: ping. what's the dupe for bug 392687 ? | 21:17 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 392687 in totem "can't open a video while there's one open" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392687 | 21:17 |
| pedro_ | BUGabundo: reload | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | sorry? | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | I told the user to report it | 21:18 |
| BUGabundo | but you marked it as invalid | 21:18 |
| pedro_ | BUGabundo: I've marked it as a duplicate, could you reload the page? | 21:19 |
| pedro_ | BUGabundo: I'd like to do everything in one single step but i've to comment and later on mark it | 21:19 |
| BUGabundo | thanks | 21:19 |
| BUGabundo | ok ok | 21:19 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 21:19 |
| BUGabundo | pedro_: eheh you scared the user eheh | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | he doesn't report too much, but got your change, and thouth it was rejected | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | felt bad . | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | now he is happy again, for helping out | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | pedro_: and I'm always amazed by how fast you squash this bugs | 21:21 |
| pedro_ | BUGabundo: being on #ubuntu-bugs-announce helps a lot for doing fast triage | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 21:21 |
| * BUGabundo vowels to hggdh | 21:22 | |
| * pedro_ loves EeeBotu | 21:22 | |
| BUGabundo | pedro_: come on. luv amoung humans... live machines/software aside :p | 21:23 |
| hggdh | hey all y'all should say thanks to mrooney... I just run eeebotu :-) | 21:24 |
| BUGabundo | who is mrooney ?? | 21:24 |
| BUGabundo | don't remember ever talking to him | 21:24 |
| BUGabundo | but in either case: thanks mrooney | 21:24 |
| hggdh | he is quite sn introvert ;-) | 21:24 |
| mrooney | hi BUGabundo, we have talked before :) | 21:25 |
| mrooney | it is okay if you don't remember me though :) | 21:25 |
| * hggdh is never remembered :-) | 21:25 | |
| BUGabundo | I guess you are not one of the most active ones , at least when I'm awaked and online | 21:26 |
| mrooney | I am not always super active in here, just answering questions sometimes | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh: everyone knows you! far more ppl then the ones that know me! | 21:26 |
| mrooney | most of my triaging is from -announce | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 21:26 |
| hggdh | heh | 21:30 |
| hggdh | will be back later | 21:30 |
| nhandler | Anyone on identi.ca/Twitter knows you ;) | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | me | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | I know myself | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | I follow myself actually | 21:32 |
| BUGabundo | nhandler: not so many ppl! I only have ~200 followers | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | of course that could be, because not everyone can keep up with 300 dents a day.... who knows | 21:33 |
| nhandler | Or maybe they want to see some dents from other people on their time lines ;) | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | aahahhah | 21:36 |
| BUGabundo | I do sleep too :p | 21:36 |
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| micahg | bdmurray: | 22:49 |
| micahg | regarding the needs-reassignment tag | 22:49 |
| bdmurray | micahg: ;-) | 22:49 |
| micahg | hi | 22:49 |
| bdmurray | hello | 22:49 |
| micahg | should I remove the package and add the tag or just leave it and add the tag? | 22:50 |
| bdmurray | remove the package and add the tag, then if giving it a package add the package and remove the tag | 22:51 |
| micahg | ok, thanks | 22:51 |
| micahg | I'll do that in the future | 22:51 |
| bdmurray | no problem thanks for asking | 22:51 |
| micahg | bug 390916 -- support request?? | 23:57 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 390916 in ubuntu "Anyone know a tweak for volume control ? " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390916 | 23:57 |
| micahg | bdmurray: ^^^ | 23:58 |
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