Sarvatt | dtchen: got a patch for nvidia on 31 too that works for me -- http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=37305&d=1245688007 | 00:05 |
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nick_schembri | cjwatson: thank you for looking that up. Will keep testing until it fails. . :) | 00:21 |
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dtchen | Sarvatt: site seems very sluggish ATM | 02:28 |
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kdub | do we even care about bugs filed for dapper? | 08:42 |
hyperair | not if they don't apply anymore | 08:43 |
kdub | oh, so check to see if they still apply | 08:44 |
hyperair | mmhmm | 08:44 |
hyperair | basically check if it exists on karmic | 08:44 |
smb | kdub, Only if they are critical | 08:45 |
smb | But if the bug still persists in karmic we try to get it fixed in upstream and karmic | 08:45 |
hyperair | i thought dapper's support period ended? | 08:47 |
smb | hyperair, No, dapper is LTS, so it is still in support. But the acceptable changes are somewhat limited. But it still gets security updates | 08:50 |
smb | Actually support for Desktop ends this month... :) | 08:51 |
dme | account on | 08:51 |
smb | hyperair, Server goes till 2011 | 08:52 |
kdub | a fair amount of bugs say "this one piec of hardware doesnt work". is there any way to look into that w/o that hardware? | 08:52 |
hyperair | smb: i see. that sure is long indeed. O_o | 08:53 |
dme | ng | 08:53 |
smb | kdub, That is the harder part. Mostly the approach is to let them try latest kernel versions (mainline builds) to see whether it does then | 08:54 |
smb | kdub, If it does, find the part/driver which supports it and see what changed there | 08:55 |
smb | If not, could it be a missing id or something simple. Otherwise it might need an upstream bugzilla. And all depends on how much information it is possible to get from the reporter | 08:57 |
smb | hyperair, It is. Squeezing (backporting) some of the security updates gets harder by time... | 08:58 |
hyperair | smb: i can imagine. | 09:08 |
apw | there are a bunch of deprecated interfaces in ndiswrapper whihch just got dropped finally so its a bit hosed | 12:51 |
apw | (at least the version we have) | 12:51 |
mdz | apw: since we aren't using lrm anymore, can it be removed from karmic? it seems to still be in the archive | 16:49 |
rtg | mdz: was it automatically copied when the archive was opened? | 16:50 |
* apw is beaten to it | 16:50 | |
rtg | mdz: regardless, it can be removed. | 16:50 |
mdz | rtg: when we start working on a new release, it starts off containing all the same things that the previous release had | 16:55 |
mdz | once a package is in the archive, it stays there unless someone removes it | 16:56 |
mdz | rtg: instructions for how to request that it be removed are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Removing%20Packages | 16:56 |
apw | <apw> rtg whats the status of karmic linux-meta, i think i heard you changing it? | 16:57 |
rtg | apw: no, I was working on the meta package backport to Hardy | 16:57 |
rtg | Karmic meta should be OK | 16:57 |
apw | ahh nice ... then i am clear to update karmic meta etc. | 16:57 |
rtg | AFAIK | 16:57 |
infinity | rtg: Don't bother filing a bug, I'm removing it right now. | 16:58 |
apw | i think my rebase is good, compiles for me on i386, amd64, lpia and armel | 16:58 |
rtg | infinity: thanks | 16:58 |
apw | so i'll push the git repo on that pretty much now, and perhaps you could give it the once over visually | 16:58 |
infinity | rtg: Done. | 16:58 |
mdz | RIP | 16:59 |
infinity | Indeed. | 16:59 |
rtg | long live LRM ! | 16:59 |
infinity | The number of hours of blood, sweat, and more blood that I put into LRM will not be soon forgotten. :P | 16:59 |
infinity | On the other hand, good riddance to binutils-static. | 17:00 |
mdz | hmm, does this mean that the Ubuntu CD is now 100% free software again? | 17:00 |
rtg | infinity: and run-time linking | 17:00 |
rtg | mdz: we still seed binary blobs in DKMS packages | 17:00 |
rtg | nVidia, etc | 17:00 |
mdz | rtg: what are the names of the binary packages? | 17:01 |
infinity | nvidia-180-kernel-source, for instance, but that's not on the CD. | 17:01 |
infinity | Pretty sure we've kicked restricted off the CD, no? | 17:02 |
rtg | infinity: its not? oh. | 17:02 |
rtg | mdz: ok, maybe I'm all wet. | 17:02 |
infinity | I see no nvidia junk seeded anymore. | 17:03 |
apw | so we now see the free drivers as good enough for testing and the installer at least | 17:03 |
infinity | Or I'm blind, which is possible while distracted with meetings. :) | 17:04 |
mdz | there are some on the DVD still | 17:04 |
infinity | apw: nouveau and radeon are much-improved lately. I still run nvidia, but I'm a 3D game junkie. | 17:04 |
apw | yeah, not that nouveau is likely to be in the kernel | 17:05 |
rtg | apw: you pushed Karmic yet? I'm getting close to blasting off | 17:05 |
apw | its pushing as we speak, uplink is not as hot as it could be | 17:05 |
rtg | apw: nor is mine. damned asymmetric links | 17:06 |
apw | yeah, and here my down is a bit pants today too, seems there was a lot of noise when the adsl sync'd and theres no button to resync it without rebooting my router | 17:06 |
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cwillu_clone | mainline site doesn't seem to have any recent x86 builds | 17:47 |
cwillu_clone | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/2009-06-19/, the 31-rc1, etc | 17:47 |
cwillu_clone | Sarvatt, which kernel did you want me to download from your site again? | 17:47 |
TheMuso | apw: I do not expect you to update ports configs, thats why it was all separated in the first place. | 23:49 |
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