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Sarvattdtchen: got a patch for nvidia on 31 too that works for me -- http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=37305&d=124568800700:05
nick_schembricjwatson: thank you for looking that up. Will keep testing until it fails. . :)00:21
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dtchenSarvatt: site seems very sluggish ATM02:28
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kdubdo we even care about bugs filed for dapper?08:42
hyperairnot if they don't apply anymore08:43
kduboh, so check to see if they still apply08:44
hyperairmmhmm08:44
hyperairbasically check if it exists on karmic08:44
smbkdub, Only if they are critical08:45
smbBut if the bug still persists in karmic we try to get it fixed in upstream and karmic08:45
hyperairi thought dapper's support period ended?08:47
smbhyperair, No, dapper is LTS, so it is still in support. But the acceptable changes are somewhat limited. But it still gets security updates08:50
smbActually support for Desktop ends this month... :)08:51
dmeaccount on08:51
smbhyperair, Server goes till 201108:52
kduba fair amount of bugs say "this one piec of hardware doesnt work". is there any way to look into that w/o that hardware?08:52
hyperairsmb: i see. that sure is long indeed. O_o08:53
dmeng08:53
smbkdub, That is the harder part. Mostly the approach is to let them try latest kernel versions (mainline builds) to see whether it does then08:54
smbkdub, If it does, find the part/driver which supports it and see what changed there08:55
smbIf not, could it be a missing id or something simple. Otherwise it might need an upstream bugzilla. And all depends on how much information it is possible to get from the reporter08:57
smbhyperair, It is. Squeezing (backporting) some of the security updates gets harder by time...08:58
hyperairsmb: i can imagine.09:08
apwthere are a bunch of deprecated interfaces in ndiswrapper whihch just got dropped finally so its a bit hosed12:51
apw(at least the version we have) 12:51
mdzapw: since we aren't using lrm anymore, can it be removed from karmic?  it seems to still be in the archive16:49
rtgmdz: was it automatically copied when the archive was opened?16:50
* apw is beaten to it16:50
rtgmdz: regardless, it can be removed.16:50
mdzrtg: when we start working on a new release, it starts off containing all the same things that the previous release had16:55
mdzonce a package is in the archive, it stays there unless someone removes it16:56
mdzrtg: instructions for how to request that it be removed are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Removing%20Packages16:56
apw<apw> rtg whats the status of karmic linux-meta, i think i heard you changing it?16:57
rtgapw: no, I was working on the meta package backport to Hardy16:57
rtgKarmic meta should be OK16:57
apwahh nice ... then i am clear to update karmic meta etc.16:57
rtgAFAIK16:57
infinityrtg: Don't bother filing a bug, I'm removing it right now.16:58
apwi think my rebase is good, compiles for me on i386, amd64, lpia and armel16:58
rtginfinity: thanks16:58
apwso i'll push the git repo on that pretty much now, and perhaps you could give it the once over visually16:58
infinityrtg: Done.16:58
mdzRIP16:59
infinityIndeed.16:59
rtglong live LRM !16:59
infinityThe number of hours of blood, sweat, and more blood that I put into LRM will not be soon forgotten. :P16:59
infinityOn the other hand, good riddance to binutils-static.17:00
mdzhmm, does this mean that the Ubuntu CD is now 100% free software again?17:00
rtginfinity: and run-time linking17:00
rtgmdz: we still seed binary blobs in DKMS packages17:00
rtgnVidia, etc17:00
mdzrtg: what are the names of the binary packages?17:01
infinitynvidia-180-kernel-source, for instance, but that's not on the CD.17:01
infinityPretty sure we've kicked restricted off the CD, no?17:02
rtginfinity: its not? oh.17:02
rtgmdz: ok, maybe I'm all wet. 17:02
infinityI see no nvidia junk seeded anymore.17:03
apwso we now see the free drivers as good enough for testing and the installer at least17:03
infinityOr I'm blind, which is possible while distracted with meetings. :)17:04
mdzthere are some on the DVD still17:04
infinityapw: nouveau and radeon are much-improved lately.  I still run nvidia, but I'm a 3D game junkie.17:04
apwyeah, not that nouveau is likely to be in the kernel17:05
rtgapw: you pushed Karmic yet? I'm getting close to blasting off17:05
apwits pushing as we speak, uplink is not as hot as it could be17:05
rtgapw: nor is mine. damned asymmetric links17:06
apwyeah, and here my down is a bit pants today too, seems there was a lot of noise when the adsl sync'd and theres no button to resync it without rebooting my router17:06
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cwillu_clonemainline site doesn't seem to have any recent x86 builds17:47
cwillu_clonehttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/2009-06-19/, the 31-rc1, etc17:47
cwillu_cloneSarvatt, which kernel did you want me to download from your site again?17:47
TheMusoapw: I do not expect you to update ports configs, thats why it was all separated in the first place.23:49

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