[00:05] dtchen: got a patch for nvidia on 31 too that works for me -- http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=37305&d=1245688007 [00:21] cjwatson: thank you for looking that up. Will keep testing until it fails. . :) === mjg59` is now known as mjg59 [02:28] Sarvatt: site seems very sluggish ATM === ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara [08:42] do we even care about bugs filed for dapper? [08:43] not if they don't apply anymore [08:44] oh, so check to see if they still apply [08:44] mmhmm [08:44] basically check if it exists on karmic [08:45] kdub, Only if they are critical [08:45] But if the bug still persists in karmic we try to get it fixed in upstream and karmic [08:47] i thought dapper's support period ended? [08:50] hyperair, No, dapper is LTS, so it is still in support. But the acceptable changes are somewhat limited. But it still gets security updates [08:51] Actually support for Desktop ends this month... :) [08:51] account on [08:52] hyperair, Server goes till 2011 [08:52] a fair amount of bugs say "this one piec of hardware doesnt work". is there any way to look into that w/o that hardware? [08:53] smb: i see. that sure is long indeed. O_o [08:53] ng [08:54] kdub, That is the harder part. Mostly the approach is to let them try latest kernel versions (mainline builds) to see whether it does then [08:55] kdub, If it does, find the part/driver which supports it and see what changed there [08:57] If not, could it be a missing id or something simple. Otherwise it might need an upstream bugzilla. And all depends on how much information it is possible to get from the reporter [08:58] hyperair, It is. Squeezing (backporting) some of the security updates gets harder by time... [09:08] smb: i can imagine. [12:51] there are a bunch of deprecated interfaces in ndiswrapper whihch just got dropped finally so its a bit hosed [12:51] (at least the version we have) [16:49] apw: since we aren't using lrm anymore, can it be removed from karmic? it seems to still be in the archive [16:50] mdz: was it automatically copied when the archive was opened? [16:50] * apw is beaten to it [16:50] mdz: regardless, it can be removed. [16:55] rtg: when we start working on a new release, it starts off containing all the same things that the previous release had [16:56] once a package is in the archive, it stays there unless someone removes it [16:56] rtg: instructions for how to request that it be removed are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Removing%20Packages [16:57] rtg whats the status of karmic linux-meta, i think i heard you changing it? [16:57] apw: no, I was working on the meta package backport to Hardy [16:57] Karmic meta should be OK [16:57] ahh nice ... then i am clear to update karmic meta etc. [16:57] AFAIK [16:58] rtg: Don't bother filing a bug, I'm removing it right now. [16:58] i think my rebase is good, compiles for me on i386, amd64, lpia and armel [16:58] infinity: thanks [16:58] so i'll push the git repo on that pretty much now, and perhaps you could give it the once over visually [16:58] rtg: Done. [16:59] RIP [16:59] Indeed. [16:59] long live LRM ! [16:59] The number of hours of blood, sweat, and more blood that I put into LRM will not be soon forgotten. :P [17:00] On the other hand, good riddance to binutils-static. [17:00] hmm, does this mean that the Ubuntu CD is now 100% free software again? [17:00] infinity: and run-time linking [17:00] mdz: we still seed binary blobs in DKMS packages [17:00] nVidia, etc [17:01] rtg: what are the names of the binary packages? [17:01] nvidia-180-kernel-source, for instance, but that's not on the CD. [17:02] Pretty sure we've kicked restricted off the CD, no? [17:02] infinity: its not? oh. [17:02] mdz: ok, maybe I'm all wet. [17:03] I see no nvidia junk seeded anymore. [17:03] so we now see the free drivers as good enough for testing and the installer at least [17:04] Or I'm blind, which is possible while distracted with meetings. :) [17:04] there are some on the DVD still [17:04] apw: nouveau and radeon are much-improved lately. I still run nvidia, but I'm a 3D game junkie. [17:05] yeah, not that nouveau is likely to be in the kernel [17:05] apw: you pushed Karmic yet? I'm getting close to blasting off [17:05] its pushing as we speak, uplink is not as hot as it could be [17:06] apw: nor is mine. damned asymmetric links [17:06] yeah, and here my down is a bit pants today too, seems there was a lot of noise when the adsl sync'd and theres no button to resync it without rebooting my router === mjg59` is now known as mjg59 === ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara [17:47] mainline site doesn't seem to have any recent x86 builds [17:47] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/2009-06-19/, the 31-rc1, etc [17:47] Sarvatt, which kernel did you want me to download from your site again? [23:49] apw: I do not expect you to update ports configs, thats why it was all separated in the first place.