[12:22] <ronnie_vd_c> is there some way to reset U1, nautlius says im not connected, and when i click connect, it does not do anything. While the U1-applet thinks im connected and is scanning (rotating picture). when i click disconnect, it does not do anything
[12:23] <ronnie_vd_c> rebooting, or restart U1 wont help
[12:54] <rodrigo_> ronnie_vd_c: are you behind a proxy?
[12:55] <ronnie_vd_c> im at school not, but i guess not. it worked fine before
[13:01] <facundobatista> Hi all
[13:01] <ronnie_vd_c> is it usefull to make a bug request, i have not much information about it
[13:06] <rodrigo_> ronnie_vd_c: yes, file a bug and include the logs (~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/)
[13:07] <rodrigo_> although there are already bugs for similar problem, so try searching for those bugs 1st and add your info to them if they apply to your problem
[13:07] <rodrigo_> buenos días facundobatista :-D
[13:07] <ronnie_vd_c> ill look for it
[13:08] <facundobatista> Hola rodrigo_!
[13:08] <rodrigo_> facundobatista: you forgot to say it in Spanish today, if you keep doing so, how can we convert everyone to talk to real true language :-)
[13:08] <facundobatista> rodrigo_, let's conquer one channel at a time! :p
[13:08] <rodrigo_> haha
[13:09] <ronnie_vd_c> could this be the problem: exceptions.OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/ronnie/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/fsm/f/6/9/f69ec171-186d-4334-b7dd-413363c82b3f'
[13:10] <rodrigo_> hmm, what are the permissions in that tree?
[13:11] <ronnie_vd_c> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[13:11] <ronnie_vd_c> while others have: drwxr-xr-x 2 ronnie ronnie
[13:13] <ronnie_vd_c> can i run 'chown -R ronnie:ronnie ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/' to fix it when U1-applet is down?
[13:14] <rodrigo_> ronnie_vd_c: have you started the applet as root?
[13:15] <ronnie_vd_c> no
[13:15] <rodrigo_> facundobatista: ^^
[13:16] <facundobatista> rodrigo_, change the owner, yes
[13:16] <facundobatista> ronnie_vd_c, change the owner, yes
[13:17] <ronnie_vd_c> works perfect now
[13:17] <facundobatista> rodrigo_, ronnie_vd_c: that's very strange... we never do anything as root, so unless the daemon was executed by hand being root, I don't understand how that can be
[13:18] <rodrigo_> ronnie_vd_c: maybe you ran it as root without realizing?
[13:18] <rodrigo_> ronnie_vd_c: have you ever started the applet from a terminal?
[13:18] <ronnie_vd_c> me neither, maybe browsing with root nautilus, but i cant remember
[13:19] <ronnie_vd_c> not before the problem began. when the applet stoped working, i started as a normal user to see for any errors, did not know about ~/.cache/
[13:27] <ronnie_vd_c> thx for helping
[13:54] <jblount> Hello everyone!
[13:58] <CardinalFang> j0!
[14:13] <mattgriffin> hello Ubuntu One beta testers. hope you're enjoying the service. lots of great feedback in the bugs you're opening. thanks and keep it up.
[14:56] <popey> mattgriffin: someone shared some files with me which I accepted via the web interface, but my client doesn't seem to have synced at all. it is connected.. suggestions?
[14:57] <mattgriffin> popey: does the client icon in the panel show that the client is connected or disconnected?
[14:57] <popey> mattgriffin: connected
[14:57] <popey> mattgriffin: in nautilus I have a "Disconnect" icon in the strip along the top
[14:58] <mattgriffin> popey: ok. sounds like you are connected.
[14:58]  * mattgriffin hmm
[14:58] <jblount> popey: You may have to disconnect / reconnect to trigger the scan
[14:58] <popey> i have disconnected/reconnected previously, but will try again
[14:58] <jblount> dobey: ^^ isn't that right? Or is there some other voodoo?
[14:58] <popey> aha! now its working
[14:58] <popey> how odd
[14:59] <popey> ok, i think last time I didnt disconnect, I quit, then restarted..
[14:59] <popey> interesting that disconnect/connect doesn't work the same as quit/restart
[14:59] <jblount> popey: Yes, that is strange.
[14:59] <jblount> Of course, preferably the sync should just happen when their are new files to sync ;)
[15:00] <popey> well, yes, we'll leave that to one side for now ;)
[15:00] <popey> "it is beta" :)
[15:00] <mattgriffin> popey: :)
[15:01] <dobey> yes that is correct
[15:01] <dobey> the web ui currently doesn't have a way to tell the api server that there are new files, so it can tell the client to download them
[15:01] <dobey> but that's being worked on
[15:02] <jblount> dobey: Thanks!
[15:02] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS
[15:02] <jblount> Welcome to the Ubuntu One developer meeting! Please tag in with a me if you are around
[15:02] <jblount> me
[15:02] <urbanape> me
[15:03] <rodrigo_> me
[15:03] <artir> me-tal \0/
[15:03]  * BUGabundo me leaves again... bye.. I seem to always be here when meetings begin :x
[15:04] <jblount> CardinalFang, aquarius, rodrigo_, dobey ?
[15:04] <rodrigo_> BUGabundo: you can stay if you want
[15:04] <aquarius> me
[15:04] <rodrigo_> jblount: I already me'd :)
[15:04] <jblount> rodrigo_: sorry!
[15:04] <dobey> me
[15:04] <jblount> DONE: Too much IRC and email, not enough code
[15:04] <jblount> TODO: Reviews, more code (mkdir in /files/new, css branch or two)
[15:04] <jblount> BLOCKED: By distractions.
[15:04] <jblount> urbanape: Tag!
[15:04] <urbanape> DONE: Proposed my branch for merge, but things blew up. Need to look into that.
[15:04] <urbanape> TODO: Keep on keeping on. Javascript funfun.
[15:04] <urbanape> BLOCK: Not really
[15:04] <urbanape> rodrigo_ gogogo
[15:05] <rodrigo_> done: finally did a working couchdb-glib package, continued with evo-couchdb package fixes
[15:05] <rodrigo_> todo: make a working evo-couchdb package
[15:05] <CardinalFang> me
[15:05] <rodrigo_> blocked: by some errors on my PPA I really don't know what they are about
[15:05] <rodrigo_> aquarius: your turn
[15:06] <aquarius> DONE: moved records.client into desktopcouch.records, made it work with help from thisfred, sped up lsof
[15:06] <aquarius> TODO: tidy up desktopcouch.records
[15:06] <aquarius> BLOCKED: horrid lsof etc
[15:06] <aquarius> dobey: hit me, bro
[15:06] <dobey> DONE: More work on python module reorg, agreement on some xdg keyring ideas from lemma of kde
[15:06]  * jblount imagines aquarius saying that with a James Brown voice
[15:06] <dobey> TODO: finish python module layout changes, Fix sharing branch for review comments, handle dbus errors better in applet
[15:06] <dobey> BLCK: Nein.
[15:06] <dobey> CardinalFang: we need those hits
[15:07] <CardinalFang> DONE: Worked out the dbus and gtk event loop madness for machine-pairing.
[15:07] <CardinalFang> TODO: Finish network code.  Test.  FIll in edge cases.  Maybe I'll get to document & beautify.
[15:07] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: Nope.
[15:07] <CardinalFang> next!
[15:07] <CardinalFang> IndexError: pop from empty list
[15:07] <jblount> Anyone else?
[15:08] <dobey> no (that was my good spanish)
[15:08] <jblount> MEETING ENDS
[15:08] <aquarius> CardinalFang: coolness. We need to wave the pairing UI past the design team once done, I think
[15:08] <aquarius> cheers jblount
[15:08] <CardinalFang> Agreed.
[15:08] <dobey> my bad spanish is more fun
[15:09]  * jblount needs a list of the desktop+ people
[15:09] <jblount> I always forget
[15:10] <urbanape> Mmmmm, James Brown. I think that'll be this morning's playlist
[15:11] <jblount> Surely someone else has seen 'Dave Chappelle's Block Party' ?
[15:11] <urbanape> negatory
[15:14] <jblount> urbanape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhmJXxeAwD8&feature=related (cussin')
[15:16] <mattgriffin> jblount: great movie
[15:16] <jblount> mattgriffin: I knew you were the cool one.
[15:24] <lucyb> I'm not able to connect using the ubuntuone-client-applet. I was wondering if someone could help me? I've tried several computers from two different networks. I get no errors when running /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet --signup but an strace says: "read(4, 0x9d246d0, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[15:29] <vds> oops
[15:29] <vds> me...
[15:29] <vds> DONE: on-call review today, wrote notes about identity inferal and syncing discussed that with mark, helped teknico with his db reset which I've then reviewed.
[15:29] <vds> TODO: on-call review, catch up with mark for some test with the contact db
[15:29] <vds> BLOCKED: blue sky!
[15:30] <CardinalFang> lucyb: You win cool points for using strace.  An interrupted syscall isn't unusual at all.  Signals usually cause it.  SIGCHLD is common, or SIGALRM for some timer.  It's only bad if it's so common that a necessary syscall doesn't complete.
[15:31] <CardinalFang> So, does it happen more than a few times a second?
[15:31] <CardinalFang> mattgriffin: ^
[15:32] <lucyb> Yes, I can use it but not interpret it. Thanks a lot for the explanation. It's happening many many times a second.
[15:34] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Is there anything at  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log  ?
[15:35] <lucyb> Nope, zero bytes :/
[15:35] <CardinalFang> $ ps x |grep [u]buntuone
[15:35] <mattgriffin> CardinalFang: thanks for your help on lucyb's issue. it's beyond my knowledge.
[15:36] <lucyb> lucy@lotus:~$ ps x|grep [u]buntuone
[15:36] <lucyb> 20471 ?        Sl     0:02 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[15:36] <lucyb> 20523 pts/1    Sl     0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet --signup
[15:37] <lucyb> Yep, thanks for helping :)
[15:37] <CardinalFang> $ ls -l /proc/20523/fd/4
[15:38] <CardinalFang> lucyb: ^
[15:39] <lucyb> lucy@lotus:~$ ls -l /proc/20523/fd/4
[15:39] <lucyb> lrwx------ 1 lucy lucy 64 2009-06-26 15:39 /proc/20523/fd/4 -> socket:[449943]
[15:40] <lucyb> lucy@lotus:~$ file /proc/20523/fd/4
[15:40] <lucyb> /proc/20523/fd/4: broken symbolic link to `socket:[449943]'
[15:41] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Good, good.  So look in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log  .  It may be big.  Eyeball it for anything that looks bad.  If it makes no sense after a few minutes, let's upload it somewhere so I can look.
[15:44] <lucyb> Okay, it didn't have anything particularly interesting until I tried connecting again and now it says:
[15:44] <lucyb> 2009-06-26 15:42:34,986 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Main - ERROR - OAuth failed: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): <class 'canonical.ubuntuone.storage.protocol.request.StorageProtocolError'>: Authentication Failed
[15:44] <lucyb> ]
[15:44] <lucyb> 2009-06-26 15:42:34,986 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.EQ - DEBUG - push_event: SYS_OAUTH_ERROR, args:(), kw:{'error': <twisted.python.failure.Failure <class 'canonical.ubuntuone.storage.protocol.request.StorageProtocolError'>>}
[15:44] <lucyb> 2009-06-26 15:42:34,987 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - DEBUG - disconnected
[15:44] <lucyb> 2009-06-26 15:42:34,988 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.State - DEBUG - START_AUTHENTICATING --[SYS_OAUTH_ERROR]--> AUTH_FAILED
[15:44] <lucyb> 2009-06-26 15:42:34,988 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.EQ - DEBUG - push_event: SYS_STATE_CHANGED, args:(), kw:{'state': <AQErrorState AUTH_FAILED>}
[15:45] <lucyb> Do you want the whole thing in a pastebin?
[15:45] <CardinalFang> Yes,   3+lines to pastebin, in general.
[15:46] <CardinalFang> lucyb: http://ubuntuone.pastebin.com/
[15:47] <lucyb> Okay, will remember that. Thanks :)
[15:47] <lucyb> It's up at http://ubuntuone.pastebin.com/m73cf329b
[16:03] <CardinalFang> So, anyone else know what's going on with lucyb's OAuth exception?
[16:04] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Did it ask for your password?
[16:06] <lucyb> Nope.
[16:07] <lucyb> I did log in successfully via the website, I don't know if that matters..
[16:07] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Oh!  Then the  "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet --signup" program is more interesting, I think.
[16:08] <CardinalFang> $ kill 20523 && echo running && /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet --signup
[16:10] <lucyb> lucy@lotus:~$ kill 20523 && echo running && /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet --signup
[16:10] <lucyb> running
[16:10] <lucyb> ?
[16:14] <CardinalFang> lucyb: It would have looked a bit like a webs site.  It would start your browser and send you back and forth between localhost and launchpad once or twice.
[16:14] <CardinalFang> "It" = authentication
[16:16] <lucyb> Okay, I don't remember that. I remember logging onto ubutuone.com via launchpad auth but I've certainly not been taken to localhost at any point.
[16:20] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Okay.  Assuming Ubuntu.  System / Administration / Keyring Manager
[16:21] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Find "UbuntuOne token..."
[16:22] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Got it?
[16:22] <lucyb> Erm, not finding the Keyring Manager. Does it have another name? I'm running bog standard Jaunty.
[16:23] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Be sure you;re looking in "Administration", not "Preferences"
[16:24] <jblount> lucyb: Try Applications > Accessories > Passwords & Encryption Keys
[16:24] <lucyb> There's an option called Authorisations, which brings up a window with a tree view that seems to be broken down by domain, e.g com -> ubuntu -> etc. Is that it?
[16:24]  * CardinalFang boggles.
[16:24] <lucyb> Ah
[16:24] <jblount> lucyb: The UbuntuOne token CardinalFang is talking about is under the Passwords tab, you may have to expand the Passwords:login arrow thingie
[16:24] <lucyb> Found it in Passwords & Encryption Keys, thanks :)
[16:25] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Woo.  Okay, let's kill the running programs first and then delete the key for U1.
[16:25] <CardinalFang> $ killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon ubuntuone-client-applet
[16:25] <lucyb> Okay. Will do.
[16:25] <CardinalFang> Then, run the applet signup again.
[16:27] <lucyb> Okay, done. It got me to add this computer then took me to the ubuntuone.com site. Still says disconnected though.
[16:28] <CardinalFang> Ooooookay!  And if you right-click on the applet icon and hit "connect" what then?
[16:28] <CardinalFang> comma, "what then"?
[16:29] <CardinalFang> pfibiger: I can copy and paste the auth token in Jaunty.  Ha! Ha ha hahahahahahaha!
[16:31] <lucyb> Nope, still says disconnected
[16:31] <CardinalFang> lucyb: Are your packages up to date?
[16:31] <joey> anyone know if there is a negative effect to removing files in .cache such as  /home/<me>/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/fsm/4/3/9
[16:32] <lucyb> I did an update this morning and only installed UbuntuOne on this computer this afternoon
[16:32]  * CardinalFang prepares to punt to mattgriffin.
[16:32] <lucyb> Thanks for your help so far CardinalFang :)
[16:33] <CardinalFang> Welcome!  This is beyon' mah ken.
[16:33] <CardinalFang> mattgriffin, tag!
[16:41] <pfibiger> CardinalFang: i'm running jaunty too. in seahorse?
[16:45] <CardinalFang> pfibiger: "gnome-keyring-manager"
[16:50] <pfibiger> CardinalFang: what gnome version? i'd read that had been deprecated entirely in favor of seahorse.
[16:51] <CardinalFang> Maybe it is.  This machine is at least 6 years old.
[16:52] <CardinalFang> It's modern, but has cruft.
[16:55] <mattgriffin> lucyb: sorry. the only thing i can think of is to submit a but about the issue.
[16:56] <lucyb> mattgriffin: Okay, thanks. Will do.
[17:16] <lucyb> FYI, I've created a bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/392592
[17:16] <lucyb> Thanks again for your friendly help!
[17:16] <lucyb> Cool bot :)
[17:17] <jblount> lucyb: Thanks for reporting the bug!
[19:37] <dobey> man, people are crazy about michael jackson for no reason
[19:40] <BUGabundo> man he was a genious
[19:40] <BUGabundo> I don't like him anymore then everyone else
[19:40] <BUGabundo> but I do have 2 CDs from his music
[19:41] <dobey> he had some alright songs, sure.
[19:42] <dobey> but i think there are more important things to worry about than a pedophile musician :)
[19:42] <BUGabundo> :(
[19:42] <BUGabundo> lame argument
[19:42] <BUGabundo> if he was or not, I don't care
[19:42] <BUGabundo> ppl adore him for his music and the genious on the way he made inovations to POP
[19:43] <dobey> if they want to go on all day about someone dying on CNN, it should be Farrah
[19:44] <BUGabundo> sure, she should deserve some attention too
[19:44] <sianis> hi there!
[19:44] <sianis> just a fast question
[19:44] <dobey> or better yet, let's hear about real news, like what is going on in iran
[19:44] <BUGabundo> but I never knew her, but I did knew much about wacko dobey
[19:45]  * BUGabundo is sick about iran
[19:45] <BUGabundo> !question | sianis
[19:45] <sianis> could somebody review my patch? bug #330746
[19:49] <verterok> sianis: sure. btw, doing a merge proposal is a more effective way to get your patch reviewed ;)
[19:51] <dobey> verterok: just done :)
[19:52] <sianis> verterok: sorry, I don't know this development way
[19:52] <verterok> sianis: nothing to sorry about :), just pointing out that proposing a branch gives the patch a lot more visibility ;)
[19:52] <verterok> dobey: cool, thanks!
[19:53] <dobey> that alcoholism cure commercial makes me want a beer...
[19:54] <dobey> 90F right now... a fresh cold one would be nice