[12:51] <out-of-hand> hi all... i wonder if i can get some help intsalling edubuntu on uuntu 9.04? im still a newbi to linux
[12:55] <out-of-hand> hello?
[13:00] <bencrisford> out-of-hand: Hey :)
[13:01] <out-of-hand> hi , could u assist me please , im trying to setup edubuntu 9.04 on ubuntu 9.04 , for schools in South africa
[13:02] <bencrisford> okay, you've downloaded and burnt a cd?
[13:02] <bencrisford> out-of-hand: ?
[13:02] <out-of-hand> yeah , i download the ISO, made it a cd, then poped it into my drive , i get
[13:02] <out-of-hand> a option box saying install cd
[13:03] <out-of-hand> i then select education desktop . in ad/ remove programs... then i select
[13:03] <out-of-hand> education desktop for ubuntu
[13:03] <out-of-hand> i get the following mesage  "Cannot install 'edubuntu-desktop'
[13:03] <out-of-hand> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'edubuntu-desktop' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[13:03] <out-of-hand> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict."
[13:04] <bencrisford> when you enter the CD, it should give you a pop-up menu
[13:05] <bencrisford> with a few options: Start Add-On Installer should be there
[13:05] <bencrisford> select that
[13:05] <bencrisford> if that doesnt work, we'll try synaptic
[13:05] <out-of-hand> i did ... thats where i get to add / remove programs window
[13:05] <bencrisford> oh ok
[13:06] <bencrisford> !info edubuntu-desktop
[13:06] <bencrisford> out-of-hand: Try opening Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[13:06] <out-of-hand> ok ... let me do so .
[13:06] <bencrisford> and typing: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[13:07] <bencrisford> it should tell you what it wants to remove, and give you the choice whether to do so or not
[13:07] <out-of-hand> this is whjat it tells me ...
[13:08] <out-of-hand> Reading state information... Done
[13:08] <out-of-hand> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[13:08] <out-of-hand> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[13:08] <out-of-hand> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[13:08] <out-of-hand> or been moved out of Incoming.
[13:08] <out-of-hand> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[13:08] <out-of-hand> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:08] <out-of-hand>   edubuntu-desktop: Depends: khelpcenter4 but it is not going to be installed
[13:08] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: gobby but it is not going to be installed
[13:08] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: scribus but it is not going to be installed
[13:08] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: ubuntu-edu-preschool but it is not going to be installed
[13:08] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: ubuntu-edu-primary but it is not going to be installed
[13:08] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: ubuntu-edu-secondary but it is not going to be installed
[13:08] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: ubuntu-edu-tertiary but it is not going to be installed
[13:08] <out-of-hand> E: Broken packages
[13:08] <out-of-hand> i have just re installed ubuntu , and tried this again ... can seem to pass this /
[13:08] <bencrisford> try running: sudo apt-get update
[13:09] <bencrisford> then: sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:10] <out-of-hand> ok just done the " sudo apt-get upgrade"
[13:10] <out-of-hand> seems to be intsalling something .
[13:10] <bencrisford> try this again after thats done - sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[13:11] <out-of-hand> i will ... ill keep u posted ..
[13:11] <out-of-hand> wher u from nencrisford?
[13:11] <bencrisford> UK
[13:11] <out-of-hand> nice :) cold there ? here in  Sa its freeezing
[13:12] <bencrisford> not too cold
[13:12] <bencrisford> its a really nice day today actually
[13:12] <bencrisford> its summer over here you see, am i right in thinking its winter for you guys?
[13:12] <out-of-hand> :) thats cool . my cuz moved  there , and yeah lol .. was about to write exactly what u said about ur summer our winter :)
[13:13] <out-of-hand> when it gets hot .. SA really gets hot ... sticky and humid.  SA has recently lost  spring and autum ., only have 2 seasons .. winter and summer .. oddly
[13:14] <out-of-hand> 45% done
[13:15] <out-of-hand> hiow did u get into linux ?
[13:15] <bencrisford> dunno really
[13:15] <bencrisford> just did
[13:16] <out-of-hand> :) what do u enjoy most about it if i may ask ? ...
[13:16] <bencrisford> freedom i guess
[13:16] <out-of-hand> yeah ,,, that i have to agree with u ... i love the freedom :)
[13:16] <bencrisford> and all the OSS thats so easy to install
[13:16] <bencrisford> powerful too
[13:16] <out-of-hand> the way it looks ... the way it feels ...
[13:16] <bencrisford> and i learn so much with linux
[13:17] <bencrisford> like at the shell prompt..
[13:17] <bencrisford> and its the first time ive *really* got into programming and scripting
[13:17] <bencrisford> apache too, its so much easier on linux
[13:18] <bencrisford> and vi :)
[13:18] <out-of-hand> im trying to aswel.. just dunno where to start , im having a deal with some powerful people in sa about educating , and i wanna install this ubuntu and ed ubuntu on the pc. for the teachers and students to use ... they like the concept... i love the challenge and love installing linux :)
[13:18] <out-of-hand> apache ?  VI  ?
[13:19] <bencrisford> apache is a web server software
[13:19] <bencrisford> vi is a text editor
[13:19] <bencrisford> vim is vi-improved
[13:19] <bencrisford> its like emacs
[13:20] <out-of-hand> oh :) nice ... i used to run a ISP . would like to see how apache works :_
[13:20] <out-of-hand> its just finished . its unpacking ...
[13:24] <out-of-hand> i read up a liuttle about running a server side for teachers and work station for pupils ... do i have to do this ?
[13:25] <bencrisford> out-of-hand: I dunno, im not really an expert
[13:27] <out-of-hand> its just instaling
[13:28] <out-of-hand> ok .. done ... gimmi 2 secs
[13:29] <bencrisford> i g2g for a bit, when its done do: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[13:29] <out-of-hand> this is the error
[13:29] <bencrisford> ok
[13:29] <out-of-hand> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[13:29] <out-of-hand> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[13:29] <out-of-hand> Processing triggers for python-support ...
[13:29] <out-of-hand> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[13:29] <out-of-hand> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic
[13:29] <out-of-hand> freedom@freedom-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[13:29] <out-of-hand> [sudo] password for freedom:
[13:29] <out-of-hand> Reading package lists... Done
[13:29] <out-of-hand> Building dependency tree
[13:29] <out-of-hand> Reading state information... Done
[13:29] <out-of-hand> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[13:29] <out-of-hand> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[13:29] <out-of-hand> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[13:29] <out-of-hand> or been moved out of Incoming.
[13:29] <out-of-hand> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[13:29] <out-of-hand> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:29] <out-of-hand>   edubuntu-desktop: Depends: khelpcenter4 but it is not going to be installed
[13:29] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: gobby but it is not going to be installed
[13:29] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: scribus but it is not going to be installed
[13:29] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: ubuntu-edu-preschool but it is not going to be installed
[13:29] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: ubuntu-edu-primary but it is not going to be installed
[13:30] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: ubuntu-edu-secondary but it is not going to be installed
[13:30] <out-of-hand>                     Recommends: ubuntu-edu-tertiary but it is not going to be installed
[13:30] <out-of-hand> E: Broken packages
[13:30] <out-of-hand> :(
[13:30] <out-of-hand> :'(
[13:30] <bencrisford> ok
[13:30] <bencrisford> try installing the packages seperately
[13:30] <bencrisford> sudo apt-get install gobby ...
[13:30] <out-of-hand> where on . add and remove ?
[13:30] <bencrisford> sudo apt-get install scribus  ...
[13:31] <bencrisford> (without the ... by the way, thats just there to make it clearer)
[13:31] <bencrisford> you know how to use apt-get install?
[13:31] <out-of-hand> sort of .. very roughly .. i tryd sudo apt-get install gobby    i get the following
[13:32] <out-of-hand> Building dependency tree
[13:32] <out-of-hand> Reading state information... Done
[13:32] <out-of-hand> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[13:32] <out-of-hand> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[13:32] <out-of-hand> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[13:32] <out-of-hand> or been moved out of Incoming.
[13:32] <out-of-hand> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[13:32] <out-of-hand> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:32] <out-of-hand>   gobby: Depends: libnet6-1.3-0 (>= 1:1.3.4-0) but it is not going to be installed
[13:32] <out-of-hand>          Depends: libobby-0.4-1 but it is not going to be installed
[13:32] <out-of-hand>          Depends: libxml++2.6-2 (>= 2.24.0) but it is not going to be installed
[13:32] <out-of-hand> E: Broken packages
[13:34] <out-of-hand> any idea?
[13:35] <bencrisford> out-of-hand: Ive got an idea sure
[13:35] <bencrisford> but i really need to go
[13:35] <bencrisford> ill be back in 5 minutes
[13:35] <out-of-hand> ok :)
[13:35] <bencrisford> and ill write you a script to sort it
[13:35] <out-of-hand> thanks i appreciate ur help alot
[13:50] <bencrisford> back
[13:52] <out-of-hand> cool
[13:52] <out-of-hand> :)
[13:54] <out-of-hand> any ideas ?
[13:59] <out-of-hand> bencrisford
[13:59] <bencrisford> im writing a script for you now
[13:59] <out-of-hand> oh ":)
[14:00] <bencrisford> out-of-hand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/204907/
[14:00] <bencrisford> ok
[14:01] <bencrisford> copy that script into text editor
[14:01] <bencrisford> and save it as edubuntu-pre-install
[14:01] <bencrisford> or something like that
[14:02] <bencrisford> then to run it, open terminal and type: bash edubuntu-pre-install
[14:02] <bencrisford> or whatever you called it
[14:02] <out-of-hand> ok i copied it , how do i put it into a text editor ?
[14:02] <bencrisford> applications> accessories> text editor
[14:02] <bencrisford> and paste it
[14:02] <bencrisford> then save it as edubuntu-pre-install
[14:04] <out-of-hand> freedom@freedom-desktop:~$ bash edubuntu-pre-install
[14:04] <out-of-hand> bash: edubuntu-pre-install: No such file or directory
[14:05] <bencrisford> you saved the script as edubuntu-pre-install yeah?
[14:05] <out-of-hand> yeah
[14:05] <bencrisford> in your home directory?
[14:05] <out-of-hand> saved to Location (File system )
[14:06] <bencrisford> run this:  cd /
[14:06] <bencrisford> then: bash edubuntu-pre-install
[14:07] <out-of-hand> still same thing ... still comes up cant find it
[14:07] <bencrisford> well copy the script into your home directory
[14:07] <bencrisford> into /home/freedom
[14:07] <bencrisford> then: cd ~
[14:08] <bencrisford> then: bash edubuntu-pre-install
[14:08] <out-of-hand> it is in my home directory
[14:08] <bencrisford> check the file name
[14:08] <bencrisford> and that stuff
[14:09] <out-of-hand> let me try again ... gimmi 2 secs
[14:10] <out-of-hand> ok .. done
[14:11] <out-of-hand> its running ur script
[14:11] <out-of-hand> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:11] <out-of-hand>   ubuntu-edu-tertiary: Depends: kalzium but it is not going to be installed
[14:11] <out-of-hand>                        Depends: kmplot but it is not going to be installed
[14:11] <out-of-hand>                        Depends: kstars but it is not going to be installed
[14:11] <out-of-hand>                        Depends: ktouch but it is not going to be installed
[14:11] <out-of-hand>                        Depends: kturtle but it is not going to be installed
[14:11] <out-of-hand>                        Depends: marble but it is not going to be installed
[14:11] <out-of-hand>                        Depends: qcad but it is not going to be installed
[14:11] <out-of-hand>                        Depends: step but it is not going to be installed
[14:11] <out-of-hand> E: Broken packages
[14:11] <out-of-hand> Success!  All packages re-installed.
[14:11] <out-of-hand> freedom@freedom-desktop:~$
[14:12] <out-of-hand> man ... this is frustrating
[14:12] <bencrisford> just remove ubuntu-edu-tertiary
[14:12] <bencrisford> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-edu-tertiary
[14:13] <out-of-hand> Package ubuntu-edu-tertiary is not installed, so not removed
[14:13] <out-of-hand> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[14:15] <bencrisford> ugh :(, i dunno
[14:15] <bencrisford> but i gotta go again
[14:15] <bencrisford> back soon