/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/27/#kubuntu-devel.txt

nhandlerryanakca: I reported LP Bug: #392741 about the footer00:26
nhandlerBug 39274100:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 392741 in kubuntu-website "Kubuntu New Wiki Theme - Incorrect Information In Footer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39274100:26
ryanakcanhandler: Ah yes, thanks for reminding me. I'll go fix that now00:27
* nhandler hugs ryanakca00:27
ryanakcanhandler: Any ideas what it should say? I don't think it should say "(C) 2005 Canonical Ltd." ... the Trademarks part I'll copy over though00:29
nhandlerI would simply remove the first line until the whole licensing issue is resolved00:29
nhandlerI have a feeling it will come up at the Doc Team meeting tomorrow00:30
ryanakcabug 39274100:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 392741 in kubuntu-website "Kubuntu New Wiki Theme - Incorrect Information In Footer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39274100:33
ryanakca*prods ubottu*00:33
ryanakcanhandler: Anyways, s/New/Fix Committed/00:33
nhandlerThanks ryanakca00:34
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ryanakcanhandler: Should the "{Hide,Show} editing options" be in the top left or top right corner?00:46
macoseele, you around?00:48
nhandlerryanakca: I'm not sure. Does the button have to go on the opposite side of the screen as the options it reveals?00:55
ryanakcanhandler: Yes... we don't really want the options hidden behind the button.00:56
nhandlerryanakca: In that case, I would put the button in the top right, as I think it makes more sense having the options on the left01:00
* ryanakca sighs and wonders how to add a printer without having to go through http://localhost:631/ ... system-config-printer-kde is installed, but there's nothing in kmenu, system-config-printer-kde isn't a valid command, nothing in system settings, etc. Very user friendly :)01:29
rgreeningnixternal: what up dawg02:44
nixternalwasabi02:55
rgreening_:)03:00
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ScottKryanakca: The Canonical copyright is (IIRC) for the theme, not the content.07:14
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Quintasanhello10:14
Quintasanhsitter: ping10:34
ryanakcaScottK: Ah, well, I doubt they'd enjoy Copyright (C) 2005 Canonical Ltd, Copyright (C) 2008 Matthew East, Copyright (C) 2008 Claire Neill and Ryan Kavanagh, Copyright (C) 2009 Ryan Kavanagh... so might as well leave out that line? Or just update the Credits page.12:07
Mamarokryanakca: but the (C) makes no sense, unless one uses the offical pic, the word copyright is enough AFAIK13:05
ryanakcaMamarok: *nod*13:05
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ScottKryanakca: No idea, really.14:31
ubuntu_Hi15:07
ubuntu_I'm on Kubuntu+1 live CD and I just got a notification that I need to update an evolution package15:08
ubuntu_are we going to be getting evolution as default on Ubuntu+1(-1)15:08
ubuntu_?15:08
ScottKubuntu_: Not in Kubuntu, no.15:09
ubuntu_why would I be prompted to update the package then?15:10
ScottKIs it evolution or evolution documentation?15:10
ScottKThere's a known issue where just the documentation gets pulled into Kubuntu somehow.15:10
freinhardthat's language-support-<something>15:11
ubuntu_hold on let me look I know it's an evolution package15:11
ubuntu_Yes it's the documentation15:12
freinhardthat's pulled in by language-support-translations-<yourlang>15:12
ubuntu_Yep just saw that too15:12
ubuntu_should I file a bug on it?15:12
ubuntu_thunderbird and gimp as well it seems15:13
ubuntu_actually without OO.o there is nothing in there that Kubuntu would need15:14
ubuntu_More reason to have Koffice :-D15:14
freinhardubuntu_: there already is one: bug 33340115:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 333401 in evolution "language-support-translations-* installs evolution-documentation-* and should not be required." [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33340115:14
ubuntu_freinhard: Should I append gimp to that as well?15:16
freinhardubuntu_: bug 36722915:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 367229 in language-support-translations-en "packages language-support-translations-* depend on gimp-help-*" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36722915:16
ubuntu_:-) I guess it does make sense to have them as two issues15:17
ubuntu_So should I sit tight or add some usual "I have this problem as well" to those two ?15:18
ubuntu_When is Quassel going to stop sipping as the default :(15:19
ubuntu_I love it it's just so not KDEish :(15:19
ScottKubuntu_: It's an open question if we ship Quassel again or go back to Konversation for Karmic.15:25
ubuntu_Is there a Konversation package for Karmic?15:25
freinhardubuntu_: sure15:27
neversfeldeit is really not a good ideo to change default applications more than one time a year :)15:28
freinhardack15:29
ubuntuok never mind15:30
ubuntuThe thing I really hate with quassel is in konversation too :(15:30
ubuntuyou can't manipulate URLs15:36
ScottKubuntu_: The quassel devs are pretty responsive usually.  You might file a feature request.15:37
ubuntu_Maybe it's a KDE libs issue?15:37
DreadKnightdo you guys have air by default now?15:37
DreadKnightthe plasma theme15:38
DreadKnighthttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/runtime/desktoptheme/air/  <----- this looks exactly like oxygen to me, not sure what's the deal15:42
ubuntu_It's now mixed with nitrogen and carbon dioxide. It's a subtle visual distinction but important for fire prevention15:43
DreadKnight...15:45
Quintasan:D15:46
QuintasanDreadKnight: you need to compile it by yourself15:46
QuintasanI don't think we should bother with compiling it in RC15:46
DreadKnightyeah, compiling is for geeks15:47
Quintasan<3 compiling15:47
DreadKnightlol15:47
DreadKnightfrigging weird... a theme that needs to be compiled15:47
Quintasandont tell me that, I also find it wried15:48
DreadKnightair worked just fine from that repository in RC, up until a certain revision15:48
Quintasanalso can't connect to svn15:49
ubuntu_Almost all of KDE is down15:50
DreadKnightcool15:51
seaLneyeah kde has dns problems not helped by some routing problems atm15:53
Quintasan:<15:54
vorianQuintasan:15:57
vorianthough needest a cloak15:58
vorianthou, even15:58
vorianlet me know if you agree15:58
Nightrosevorian: heya :) any news/progress on my problem?16:00
vorianNightrose: not yet16:00
* Nightrose says hi from linuxtag16:00
Nightrosevorian: :(16:00
vorianhi to Nightrose at linuxtag o/16:00
Nightrosehehe16:00
vorianthese things take some time, sorry16:00
Nightroseyea - as long as it is still on the list16:01
vorianof course :)16:01
* txwikinger sayshi to the Linuxtag16:05
MamarokNightrose: how is it going in Berlin?16:06
* seaLne waves to the linuxtag people aswell16:07
* Mamarok is sad not to be there but thinks it was a wise decision, still taking a lot of pain meds16:07
neversfeldeMamarok: get well soon16:12
freinhardNightrose: got a webcam on your laptop?16:14
Mamarokneversfelde: thx, it's already much better for typing than before16:15
Nightrosefreinhard: jep16:19
NightroseMamarok: pretty empty :(16:19
Nightroseotherwise perfect16:19
freinhardNightrose: stream! ;)16:19
Nightrosefreinhard: internet is not good enough and i have nothing to stream it to16:20
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ubuntu_As an aside why are the tooltips different from the systray when compared with the rest of the panel?16:39
seaLneubuntu_: systray is an xwindows thing not plasma16:41
smarterubuntu_: systray icons really are small windows, so they don't use plasma theming, but a new systray protocol has been integrated in KDE 4.3 to replace the previous, hackish one and apps who use it as a side effect have plasma theming and so integrate well16:41
ubuntu_I'm on KDE 4.316:41
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smarterubuntu_: kmix has been ported, try it16:41
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smarterthat's the only one for now16:42
seaLnehadn't notced kmix before :)16:42
smarternice isn't it? ;)16:42
ubuntu_ok. Hmm wonder if tha's why it doesn't start with the session16:42
seaLneanyone know anything about Bug #392593?16:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 392593 in plasma-widget-network-manager "[karmic regression] cannot connect to wireless network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39259316:53
freinhardseaLne: i can't connect either but i get some ioctl error and even can't connect from cli16:55
seaLnei've tried a different wireless card and as the bug reporter said its plasma-nm that seems to be at fault as gnome nm works fine for me aswell, despite it being horrible16:59
ubuntu_That is nice17:00
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vorianis someone packaging qwit?17:35
seaLne just type /quit to use it from your irc client ;)17:44
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hsitteryou know, in a late night insanity I deleted my ruby talk :P17:48
hsitterQuintasan: pong17:49
hsitterScottK: we don't need an svg since png is editable with free tools anyway, but if it was created from an svg it is advisable to have that ;-)17:51
hsitterfor performance reasons it makes sense to deploy the .png stuff and use that17:51
hsitterscaling svg is darn slow17:51
hsitteralso, KIcon can just use the SVG, ultimately pngs+svg would be stored in hicolor so rgreening wouldn't have to worry at all17:52
hsitterScottK: re po file foo for rgreening ... ? :P17:54
hsitterusb-creator should just use cmake :P17:55
vorianseaLne: sounds like a plan18:06
vorianactually, i have an alias for that since i do it so often on accident18:06
vorianalias quit msg vorian you are an idiot18:06
JontheEchidnawhoa, hotness: http://imagebin.ca/view/RLpd0g.html18:07
JontheEchidnaartwork is final now :)18:08
vorianschweet18:08
vorian<3 konq18:08
voriani think qwit will pwn choqok18:08
vorianjust sayn18:08
Quintasanhsitter: still there? >_<18:30
hsitterno!18:30
hsitterI think18:30
Quintasanoh good, you pinged me yesterday, what was that about? :318:31
Quintasanhsitter: ^18:32
hsittermust have been something fancy18:32
hsitterright18:32
hsitterQuintasan: go package up kalaternatives :P18:33
Quintasan:D18:33
hsitterbasically you just need to take what debian got in their svn and make it fit into ubuntu18:33
hsitter+ create some patch18:33
hsitterfor a change I cced to the mailing list, though eventually Riddell didn't moderate it yet18:33
Quintasanvorian: I'm sure you send me something on query but I accidentally my power cable :<18:34
vorianQuintasan: you would like a cloak, right?18:35
Quintasanvorian: sure18:35
* hsitter would like a darn kubuntu developer cloak :P18:36
vorianme too18:37
freinhardbring me one too18:41
hsittervorian: you sure know someone from the IRC operator council?18:41
hsitterjussi didn't want to answer me :P18:41
hsitterso18:43
hsitternow that I have to start from scratch with my ruby talk?18:43
hsitteronce again the question!18:43
hsitterwhat to talk about?18:43
Quintasanhsitter: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kalternatives/tags/kalternatives-0.12-1/ <-- this is what you want?18:44
hsitterQuintasan: yes18:44
* Quintasan nods18:44
freinhardhsitter: basic concepts, why use ruby, why use ruby and not pything (something i don't understand), things you need to get a basic rb-qt4 app running, maybe some nice ide that's worth trying.18:46
hsittercause pythin is the mess and c++ is the bloat and ruby is the beauty :P18:47
hsitterfreinhard: I like that suggestion18:47
* hsitter implements18:47
* hsitter pokes JontheEchidna in the nick18:49
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Quintasanwhat's with the nick change?18:50
* hsitter tells Quintasan to change his nick as well18:50
freinhardQuintasan: that's what the cool guys do ;)18:50
Quintasanokay18:51
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hsitterwe should have a dev nick policy :P18:51
* hsitter hugs jmthomas and mzajac18:51
mzajaclulz18:51
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mzajachow come I can't register my brand new nick?18:54
Morelia_Viridisdo /msg nickserv help18:54
Morelia_Viridistells you eveything18:54
Morelia_Viridis3.times {|x| 3.times {|y| a << [x,y] if x != y } }18:54
mzajacIt tells me I'm already identified18:54
Morelia_Viridishsitter: why's that better than a forloop?18:54
Morelia_Viridishsitter: reminds me of perl. how to make you're code unreadable for non-pros18:55
hsitterhm18:55
hsitterso why not do a forloop?18:55
Morelia_Viridiss/you're/your/18:55
hsitteralso, the onyl point of the above example is to make it onlineable IMHO :P18:56
hsitterwhich would require ; with an expressed for loop18:57
Morelia_Viridisand explain those @18:57
Morelia_Viridisand whatever you need (never got really got it)18:58
Morelia_Viridismaybe because python doesn't require those "end"s18:58
hsitter@ :)18:59
hsitterfun != @fun != @@fun != $fun18:59
hsitterat the point where your code represents that you have createde the ultimate insanity19:00
* Morelia_Viridis rips the @ out of his keyboard19:06
mzajacargh why launchpad is soo slooooow19:25
mzajachsitter: done19:49
mzajachsitter: I suppose you want diff.gz19:49
hsittermzajac: revu19:49
mzajacah k19:49
hsittermzajac: did you add the patch as well?19:49
mzajachsitter: patch?19:49
hsitter:P19:50
hsittersec19:50
mzajachsitter: I didn't find any patches :P19:50
hsitterRiddell is a slow moderator :P19:50
hsitterkde svn 98761719:50
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=987617&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 987617 | Remove commenting of X-KDE-RootOnly. Fedora and Kubuntu (possibly others) patch systemsettings to invoke kcmshell4 using kdes...19:50
hsittermzajac: ^19:50
mzajachsitter: too bad whole *.kde.org is down19:50
hsitterit is?19:51
hsitterapi.kde works just fine ;D19:51
* hsitter would be pretty boned otherwise19:51
mzajacsomeone mentioned routing problems19:51
hsittermzajac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/205101/19:52
vorianhsitter: the ubuntu irc council only wants folks to have @ubuntu/member cloaks19:59
hsittercommunistic20:00
hsitterlike we are all alike, huh? :P20:00
vorianPricey: ^20:00
vorianmaybe he can help instigate some change in that department20:01
* hsitter doesn't care enough :P20:02
* vorian thinks hsitter lies20:02
hsitterseriously, right now redoing my ruby talk is more important20:02
hsitterthe first version was better though :S20:03
vorianprints "vorian is awesome"20:03
mzajachsitter: srsly, how did you manage to delete it? :D20:03
vorianok, any motu around for a quick ack20:03
vorian(second ack)20:03
voriancommon folks, its all about social from the start20:05
hsittermzajac: went through my fs and rm -rf *20:05
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Priceyvorian: hmm?20:05
hsitterthough really, the fault was that I stored the talk in home/tmp :D20:05
mzajacvorian, hsitter: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kalternatives20:05
hsittervorian: I'll ack everything20:05
hsitteror is it anything20:06
vorianhsitter: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qwit20:06
hsittersomething at least20:06
hsitterACK20:06
mzajachsitter: oh, once I deleted my debian-ready package20:06
vorianthanks20:06
hsitterthough20:06
hsittervorian: hold on a sec :P20:06
voriantoo late20:06
vorianPricey: nothing, nevermind20:06
hsittermeh20:07
hsittervorian: add to your todo: Description: A20:07
hsitterkill the A20:07
hsitteryou should work on your rules :P20:08
vorianna20:08
hsitteroh you should :P20:08
hsittervorian: ./translations/qwit_it_IT.qm: data20:08
hsittertell upstream to keep the darn tarball clean20:09
voriannod20:09
hsitterthough all in all the ACK was justified20:09
vorianfantastic20:10
vorianwe'll see how well they grow the app20:10
hsittermzajac: 0ubuntu120:10
hsitterit didn't enter debian yet, so it can't be 1ubuntu120:10
mzajachsitter: I think it is in Debian20:10
hsitterstuck in NEW20:10
hsittersee my mail to the list :P20:11
yuriygot an update to amarok 2.1, seems to have blown away my collection (rescanned on startup) and there's a funny blue background in the context view20:11
mzajackk will fix20:11
hsitteruha20:11
hsittermzajac: also, please keep the debian changelog entry20:11
hsitterofficial or not, we need to have a reference point :D20:11
vorian:o20:11
vorianmerge MURDER!20:11
mzajachmm, ok20:11
hsittermzajac: also for copyright you should keep debian's stuff20:12
hsitteri.e. keep all changes to a minimum20:12
hsittermzajac: also, explain the patch in a changelog entry20:12
hsitterbest reference my commit :)20:12
yuriyand the lyrics show html20:13
hsitternhandler: did you upload kobby?20:13
mzajac* Added kubuntu_01_fix_desktop.diff to enable use of kdesudo <-- is this okay?20:15
mzajachsitter: ^ I should remove my stuff from debian/copyright?20:15
hsittermzajac: yes to both20:15
hsitteryou can add your copyright for the patch if you want20:16
hsitterbut since you only made my change quilted.... :P20:16
mzajacit's YOUR patch20:16
mzajacoh :P20:16
mzajacARGH20:21
hsitterARGV20:21
hsitterKDE::CmdLineArgs.init(ARGV, aboutData)20:22
mzajac@_@20:22
hsitterp ARGV20:23
hsitter[]20:23
hsitter=> nil20:23
mzajachsitter, vorian: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=617020:24
hsittermzajac: did you testbuild?20:27
mzajachsitter: with, patch - no, without - yes20:27
mzajacbrb phonecall20:28
* hsitter is wondering if he is supposed to consider that best practise20:29
mzajac:D20:29
mzajacbut, hey, it works!20:30
hsitteryou don't know that!!!! :P20:30
mzajachsitter: ARGV you got me20:32
mzajac:320:32
mzajachsitter: builds with patch20:36
hsittervorian: revu ^20:36
mzajacjmthomas: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kalternatives20:37
* vorian revu's20:43
vorianoh, still in new eh?20:47
voriankalternatives uploaded20:50
* mzajac hugs vorian20:51
mzajac:320:51
voriansilly mzajac changing nicks20:52
mzajac:<20:52
voriannow the walrus face20:52
mzajacwhat?20:52
vorian:<20:53
vorianlooks like a walrus20:53
mzajacah20:53
mzajacohshi-, it really looks like this :D20:53
* mzajac changes his avatar20:54
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vorianryanakca: kobby uploaded - thanks for your contribution to Kubuntu and all of the Known Universe!21:00
vorian>> puts "Hola World!".reverse.upcase21:18
vorian!DLROW ALOH21:18
vorian=> nil21:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about DLROW ALOH21:18
vorian>>21:18
vorianhaha21:18
* ScottK wants some of whatever it is vorian is on.21:19
vorianyes21:19
vorianvacations are good21:19
ScottKhsitter: I ran across http://dancingpenguinsoflight.com/2009/06/a-better-ruby-prompt/ and thought of you.21:30
hsitteruhhh21:34
hsitterScottK: fancy21:34
hsitterme likes21:34
hsitterScottK++21:34
Quintasanhsitter: looks like I'm bit retarded for Ruby, that guy just jumped from printing text to using File I/O -> http://poignantguide.net/ruby/chapter-2.html :P21:39
Quintasanand I don't really get it >_<21:40
ScottKhttp://dancingpenguinsoflight.com/2009/02/python-and-vim-make-your-own-ide/ for the Pythonistas out there.21:45
hsitterQuintasan: what chapter?21:56
* hsitter notes that IO is IO, no matter where it goes :P21:56
hsitteror comes from, for that matter21:56
Quintasanhsitter: 4th, I started form 1st because I forgot most of it :S21:56
smarterchunky bacon.21:57
Quintasanthat's what you get for reading past 2am21:57
hsitterlol21:57
Quintasanbacon is good21:57
hsitterhm21:58
hsitterQuintasan: what is not to get?21:58
* hsitter might be looking at the wrong snippet21:58
Quintasanlet me get to it first21:59
hsitterhe's explain File after the first snippet that uses the File class21:59
hsitter"he's explain" sounds weird though :P22:00
ScottK"He's explaining" or "He explains"22:01
hsitterhe explain? :P22:02
ScottKNo.22:02
hsitterhm22:03
hsitterah, now I get it22:03
ScottKExplain is only first or second person, not third.22:03
hsitterhm, no I don't get it anymore22:03
hsitterScottK: explain is no person at all?22:03
hsitterat least I know no one who is called explain22:04
ScottKExplain is the verb22:04
ScottKI explain English syntax.  You explain you don't get it.  Quintasan, he explains he is confused by the Ruby.22:04
ScottKBetter?22:05
hsitterhm22:05
hsittergets more confusing by the minute22:05
hsitterhe.explain22:05
hsittergood enough?22:05
hsitterhe.explain.good_enough?22:06
* ScottK is getting confused too.22:06
hsitter:)22:06
Quintasan@_@22:06
* Quintasan is starting to question his sanity22:06
hsitterdude22:06
hsittermodule Insane22:06
hsitterclass Widget < Qt::Widget22:07
hsitterend22:07
hsitterend22:07
hsitterwidget = Insane::Widget.new22:07
ScottK[((a['name'], a['typename']), a['data']) for a in resp.answers]22:08
* Quintasan can't understand22:09
hsitterhm22:09
* hsitter doesn't like that22:09
hsitterlooks weird22:09
hsittera .each kind of method would really be better here22:10
hsitterlooks better too ;-)22:10
vorianyummy22:13
* hsitter starts flirting with rgreening22:14
* rgreening thinks hsitterneeds to change his name to Ken first...22:15
vorianhaha22:15
=== hsitter is now known as Ken
rgreening:)22:15
rgreeningo/ Ken22:15
Kennick.good_enough?22:15
smartergo for Barbie while you're at it22:16
=== rgreening is now known as Barbie
Barbie:)22:16
vorianfantastic22:16
* Ken starts flirting with vorian22:16
Ken:P22:16
=== vorian is now known as hans
=== Barbie is now known as Chewie
hansnow we just need a nina22:17
hansmy nina22:17
KenOo22:17
Kenoh dear22:17
Chewie<rwaaaawwrrr>22:17
=== Chewie is now known as Vader
VaderI am your father22:18
Kenhm22:18
Kenwhos?22:18
=== Vader is now known as hsitter
hans06/27/09|15:27 [freenode] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- vader is not registered.22:18
hanstoo late22:19
hsitter:)22:19
hsitterIf I am you and your are me, who am I22:19
=== Ken is now known as rgreening
* hsitter flirts with hinslef22:20
hsitterlol22:20
smarterI am what I am because of what we all are, am I?22:20
rgreeningwhos that?22:20
hansohmy22:20
rgreeningself.exist?22:20
hsitterI think we have an identity crisis22:20
rgreeningpossibly22:20
hansnil22:21
=== hans is now known as vorian
rgreeningoh dear22:21
rgreeningself.kill22:21
smarter$ killall22:21
hsitterrgreening never uses the phrase 'oh dear'22:21
hsitterIMPOSTER.22:21
hsitterget him :)22:21
rgreeningshould22:21
smarteroy vei22:21
rgreeninganyway22:21
rgreeningsomeone needs to reinitialize me22:21
rgreeningor rather22:21
rgreeningself22:21
hsitterlol22:22
rgreeningwhich is class me22:22
rgreeningwhich is confusing22:22
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=== rgreening is now known as self
selfyou know, we might eventually get kicked from some channels soon :P22:22
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rgreeninglol22:23
=== self is now known as hsitter
hsitterso22:23
rgreeninggood thing we never picked and lewd incarnations of our nick :)22:23
hsitterrgreening: what did you need my knowledge for?22:23
hsitterrgreening: apachelogger?22:24
* rgreening believe hsitter started all this mess with hitting on me22:24
hsitterself.at_fault?22:24
vorian06/27/09|15:27 [freenode] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- vader is not registered.22:24
vorianer, weird22:24
voriansorry22:24
hsitterwe should do more repastes anyway22:24
hsitterwe need a bot for that22:25
vorianpastebot!22:25
hsitterkubotu: nick pastebot22:25
kubotuhsitter, you don't have 'config::nick' permissions here22:25
hsitterdarn you!22:25
rgreeninglol22:25
hsitterI am your lord and master22:25
* vorian notes that hsitter is not identifed to nickserv either22:25
hsittertrue22:25
=== hsitter is now known as apachelogger
apacheloggerkubotu: whoami22:25
kubotuyou are *hsitter_61879348822:25
apacheloggeram I?22:26
rgreeningapachelogger:  I believe the isse was with translations + python22:26
voriankubotu: whoami22:26
kubotuyou are *vorian_61675192822:26
vorianhuh22:26
apacheloggerkubotu: whoami22:27
kubotuyou are *hsitter_61879348822:27
* apachelogger beats up the bot22:27
apacheloggerkubotu: whoami22:28
kubotuyou are my boss22:28
apacheloggermuch better22:28
smarterhaha22:28
vorianlol22:28
rgreeningapachelogger: In the usb-creator-kde app (in my PPA ~roderick-greening), I need to ensure I get translations figured out correctly as the gtk part uses gettext and I need to take advantage of their translations as well ... I'm not that good in this area.22:29
rgreeninghah22:29
apacheloggerno clue how it is done in python TBH22:29
apacheloggerrgreening: take a look at jockey22:29
rgreeningapachelogger: ok. I'll try that22:30
apacheloggeryou probably need to define the translation domain and then just make the kapplication get translations from there22:30
rgreeningapachelogger: anyway, feel free to test drive the app.22:30
apacheloggerurly22:30
rgreeningI need some beta testers and bug fixers :)22:30
rgreening1 sec22:30
rgreeningapachelogger: https://launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive/ppa22:31
* apachelogger aint is going to change any python :P22:32
apacheloggerI always mess up the indents22:32
rgreeningIt's rough... being a port. But basically works.22:32
rgreeninglol22:32
rgreeningapachelogger: rule of thumb... 4 spaces always for each new level. Most python programmers use that for a tab replacement22:32
apacheloggerI aint got no karmic :P22:33
rgreeningapachelogger: should work/build for jaunty... it's just python22:33
apacheloggerthat is why I think it  will not :P22:33
rgreeninglol22:34
vorianthems fighting words22:34
rgreeningOk, I have to jet for a bit... leter peeps :P22:34
apacheloggerrgreening: icon needs rework22:34
rgreeningapachelogger: Icon is being dev'd by kwii :) I asked and he said ok.22:35
rgreeningassume you meant the human themed one.22:35
apacheloggerI say ok22:35
apacheloggerrgreening: first line sez Ubuntu :P22:36
rgreeningwhere?22:36
apacheloggerfirst line22:36
apacheloggerTo try or install Ubuntu from USB disk...22:36
rgreeningTechnically it's correct22:36
apacheloggerrgreening: and it really should be using policykit22:36
apacheloggertechnically it is not22:37
rgreeningapachelogger: It's in the TODO file22:37
apacheloggerI am not installing the project, I am installing the product :P22:37
apacheloggerrgreening: should get in before karmic, currently the other dialog is rather useless, since I would have to navigate to my home manually22:37
apachelogger== gtk dialog :P22:37
rgreeningTechnically the USB creator will install any Ubuntu22:37
apacheloggerKubuntu is not an Ubuntu22:38
apacheloggerit's an Ubuntu derivate if one wants to say so22:38
vorianeat meat22:38
apacheloggerbut the dialog clearly states Ubuntu, which is either the project or the product ... unless Ubuntu is now also used for anything that requires branding in some way :P22:39
apacheloggerUbuntu - We brand everything22:39
apacheloggerrgreening: the image column probably shouldn't state the fdo hal id but the name22:39
rgreeningapachelogger: yeah, it's a bug22:40
apacheloggerk22:40
apacheloggeruhhhh22:40
apacheloggerfancy22:40
apacheloggererror => see log22:40
apacheloggerthat is the most useless kind of error :P22:40
rgreeninglol. what puked22:40
apacheloggerrgreening: format22:41
rgreeningIt's a HAL bug...22:41
apacheloggerthough I tried to format my dellutility partiton :D22:41
apacheloggerrgreening: anyway, the dialog needs a rework22:41
rgreeningIt happens under GTK and KDE Client.22:41
apacheloggereither show the log in an advanced type of button22:41
apacheloggeror don't talk about it22:41
rgreeningapachelogger: yeah, it's a straight port... so, still need to deal with some of the ported features...22:42
rgreeninglike the log part is likely to disappear (IMO)22:42
rgreeningit should just work...22:42
rgreening:)22:42
apacheloggeraye22:42
rgreeningbut feel free to open bugs on things to address :) the better I can make this ...22:43
rgreeninglp:~usb-creator is the main package22:43
apacheloggerdon't feel like that right now :P22:43
rgreening:)22:43
rgreeningOkies, I have to jet anyway...22:43
* apachelogger is exhausted from writing about ruby22:43
Quintasan<3 Kate -> http://imagebin.ca/view/hlOjVS.html22:45
apacheloggerpervert22:46
apacheloggerhaving konsole at the top22:47
apacheloggerewww22:47
apacheloggerQuintasan: btw, you should attend my ruby talk... I'll mention why one doesn't want to use print ;-)22:47
Quintasan:O22:48
Quintasanbe sure to look for annoying questions from me ;P22:48
Quintasanapachelogger: about Kate, I'm too lazy to alt tab :P22:48
apacheloggertalk.questions.each{|question|22:49
apachelogger  talk.answer(question) unless question.downcase.include?("python")22:49
apachelogger}22:49
Quintasanoh, I understood :D22:49
apachelogger:D22:49
* Quintasan is starting to talk Ruby22:49
apachelogger\o/22:50
Quintasan<3 for (;;) cout << "I'm in ur PC eatin ur megahuntz" << endl;22:53
smarterQuintasan: use Yakuake22:53
smarterbetter than any integrated Konsole22:53
* apachelogger disagrees22:53
* smarter still agrees with himself22:53
smartertransparent Yakuake with multiple tabs is worth a thousand Konsole :]22:54
* Quintasan uses Yakuake, Konsole and integrated Konsole22:54
QuintasanWhy on earth I have to launch another window to execute one script?22:54
apacheloggersmarter: well, that doesn't make much sense if it doesn't follow you around :P22:54
* Quintasan is mad since old Radeon is old and is slow as hell22:55
smarterwell, it follows my virtual desktop, what else should it follows?22:55
apacheloggersmarter: the documents I hack on22:55
apacheloggerwhich is IMHO the main advantage of the embedded terminal in kate22:56
smarterjust hack in a single directory at a time :p22:56
apacheloggersmarter: I never ever do that :P22:56
smarterplus, if you use a real shell(aka zsh), cd and friends don't look that much irritating22:57
smarterand magic tricks like pushd/popd22:57
* Quintasan is accepting cash for new graphics card :322:58
Quintasansmarter: pastebin me your .zshrc :P22:58
smarterQuintasan: I don't use a single .zshrc, but a custom version of this awesome set of config scripts: http://www.ctaf.free.fr/dokuwiki/doku?id=ctafconf22:59
Quintasansmarter: one time I had  .zshrc that was so good I could cry, but then bugged kernel in jaunty ate it :<23:00
smarterQuintasan: here is my diff to ctafconf: http://pastebin.com/m26372cc523:02
smarteryou probably want to change the zshrc.mine, zshenv.mine etc for stuff like EMAIL and DEBNAME ;)23:02
smarterQuintasan: and my ~/.zshrc and ~/.zshenv: http://pastebin.com/m6fc6a05623:03
smarteroooooh, fireworks23:04
* smarter goes to his window23:04
Quintasanoh, bash prompt look cool23:06
smarteryay23:07
smarterand I customized it so that it shows rev number in svn and bzr directories, and branch in git directories23:08
smarter*branch name23:08
Quintasanguess I will apply whole diff and change it23:08
smarterexample: http://imagebin.ca/view/5AsbpE.html23:12
Quintasandeep-thought?23:12
Quintasan:D23:12
smarterall my computers are named from H2G2 characters/computers ;)23:14
vorianloverly23:14
voriandeepthoght ftw23:14
vorianthought even23:14
smarterone thing I should add to my zsh prompt config is a different color when it's not a local prompt(which means ssh most of the time) to avoid doing things on the wrong machine :p23:16
vorianthat would be wise23:16
voriani'm not a big fan of zsh23:16
vorianalthough it's mostly because i'm lazy23:16
smarterprobably ;)23:17
smartercause it's awesome23:17
smarterand it has a tetris too23:17
vorianwhoo, shiny23:17
Quintasantetris?23:17
QuintasanARGH I'm lost with those all config files23:17
vorianit's a block game23:18
vorian:P23:18
QuintasanI know tetris, how do I launch it in zsh? :D23:18
vorianwhere did you meet him?23:19
QuintasanFFFUUU-23:19
vorianeek!23:19
voriani can luanch tetris with bash23:19
voriantetris23:19
smarterit's not built-in ;)23:20
smarterin zsh23:20
smartertetris23:20
smartersays "Use M-x tetris RET to play tetris."23:20
smarterdo that, and you get a tetris23:20
vorianthat's just too flippin hard23:21
vorianborn again shell for me23:21
Quintasanargh, how can I purge those cta files?23:21
QuintasanI would like to start over -_-'23:21
smarterQuintasan: there are instructions in the wiki23:21
vorianwhoa23:24
vorianmajor shortage of ppa build machines23:24
vorianwhen did that happen?23:24
Quintasansmarter: not helpful, ct-uninstall doesn't exist23:25
smartervorian: probably when someone tripped over the plug :p23:25
voriani bet23:26
smarterQuintasan: haven't tried to install it in a long time, but I can give you a tar.gz of the ctafconf dir23:26
Quintasansmarter: that would help :)23:26
smarterQuintasan: http://smarter.free.fr/config/ctafconf.tar.bz223:30
smarteruntar that in ~/.config23:30
smarterthen replace .zshrc and .zshenv by what I pastebin-ed23:30
Quintasanthanks, looks good now23:33
smarteryou're welcome ;)23:34
smarteras I said, be sure to edit .config/ctafconf/perso/zsh*.mine23:35
Quintasanhmm it leaves a wried blank space when using completion23:38
Quintasansmarter: ^ http://imagebin.ca/view/CMGnvDm.html23:40
smarterthat happens sometimes when you're in a directory with a modified prompt(here, revision number of the svn)23:41
smarterhaven't found why :/23:41
smarter'night23:41
Quintasannn smarter23:43

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