[00:00] <BUGabundo> ; resample-method = ffmpeg
[00:00] <BUGabundo> ; resample-method = src-linear
[00:00] <BUGabundo> ; resample-method = speex-float-1
[00:00] <BUGabundo> resample-method = speex-float-10
[00:00] <BUGabundo> ; resample-method = speex-fixed-1
[00:00] <dtchen> BUGabundo: the list is in src/pulsecore/resampler.c
[00:00] <Twigathy> resample-method = src-sinc-best-quality <-- hugely CPU intensive c_c
[00:01] <dtchen> Twigathy: which is what we need to avoid
[00:02] <Twigathy> :)
[00:02] <dtchen> ARM devices surely don't want cpu cycles burned via pulse's resampler
[00:03] <Twigathy> It might be nice if there were some way to change sample method in the audio bit of the administration menu, but I suppose if you know enough to want to fiddle with these things you'll just edit the file directly...
[00:04] <dtchen> it's not quite that modular yet
[03:10] <virtuald> is /bin/sh supposed to be busybox?
[03:14] <billybigrigger> yes
[03:16] <Sarvatt> dash here
[03:16] <virtuald> dpkg-reconfigure dash didn't help
[03:17] <Sarvatt> whats diverting it?
[03:17] <virtuald> diversion by dash from: /bin/sh
[03:17] <virtuald> diversion by dash to: /bin/sh.distrib
[03:17] <virtuald> bash: /bin/sh
[03:18] <virtuald> bigbrother@ingsoc:~$ /bin/sh
[03:18] <virtuald> BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-1ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)
[03:19] <Sarvatt> are you even on  karmic? we're on 1.13
[03:19] <virtuald> yes
[03:19] <Sarvatt> BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash)
[03:20] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt::: is right, its dash
[03:20] <virtuald> busybox-initramfs: Installerad: 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu4
[03:21] <virtuald> weird huh
[03:21] <Sarvatt> sounds like something got screwed up in an upgrade
[03:21] <virtuald> can that happen if i run out of diskspace?
[03:21] <Sarvatt> sudo rm /bin/sh && sudo ln -s /bin/dash /bin/sh ?
[03:21] <Sarvatt> oh is / mounted RO?
[03:22] <virtuald> nope :p
[03:24] <Sarvatt> any chance there were errors and it mounted RO (like from running out of disk space) and you have the old version in your initrd? i have no idea really, just throwing out guesses
[03:25] <Sarvatt> remounted RO i mean
[03:26] <Sarvatt> from errors=remount-ro in fstab
[03:26] <Sarvatt> i'd reboot and check it again :D
[03:27] <virtuald> i don't think errors=remount-ro remounts when running out of disk space
[03:27] <virtuald> at least if i have 5% free
[03:27] <virtuald> sarvatt: will there be a -10 kms kernel?
[03:28] <Sarvatt> nope there will be an 11 kms kernel though
[03:28] <virtuald> busybox as /bin/sh explains why some initscripts acted weirdly before
[03:28] <virtuald> ok
[03:28] <Sarvatt> theres problems with .31, it might even wait till 12
[03:29] <virtuald> afk
[03:30] <Sarvatt> so many things dont compile on .31 yet like fglrx and nvidia and vbox and too many other things to count, anything block device/i2c/agpgart/network related that compiles external modules probably needs updating
[05:08] <benten> hi
[05:08] <benten> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[05:09] <benten> cannot mount any ntfs partition
[05:10] <benten> everything was working normally, till semi-unexpected shutdown. afterwards, this problem arise.
[05:10] <benten> by semi-unexpected shutdown mean: normal shutdown was in process, and power failure occured
[05:11] <benten> how can i fix this, thanks.
[05:14] <billybigrigger> i get that error when trying to open Places>Computer
[05:15] <benten> billybigrigger: yeah, once error occurs, previously mounted drive partitions vanish
[05:16] <billybigrigger> http://imagebin.ca/view/oafesRy.html
[05:16] <billybigrigger> check your syslog and see whats going on
[05:16] <benten> k
[05:18] <benten> billybigrigger: hmm my problem is less complicated as compared to yours
[05:19] <benten> billybigrigger: when i click computer, i can view system  drive / filesystem = computer:///
[05:19] <benten> billybigrigger: but if i try to access any of other ntfs partitions, all ntfs partitions vanish ( previously visible)
[05:20] <benten> billybigrigger: and this DBus error pops up
[05:20] <benten> billybigrigger: but even then, only drive left accessible is filesystem
[05:23] <benten> a temporary workaround i did was to mkdir in /media and force mount drives
[05:24] <benten> this makes partition accessible but not viewable under System > Places > or Computer.
[05:35] <benten> billybigrigger: gnome-keyring-daemon[xxxx]: Couldn't unlock login keyring with provided password
[05:35] <benten> billybigrigger: gnome-keyring-daemon[xxxx]: Failed to unlock login on startup
[05:36] <benten> can this be causing problem ?
[05:50] <benten> hmm
[05:50] <benten> must be due to recent update
[05:50] <benten> n e ways its still alpha so gona wait more
[05:50] <benten> till then bb
[05:50] <Sarvatt> maybe try adding your user as an explicit authorization in system - authorizations - storage?
[05:53] <Sarvatt> might have saved a bad password somewhere if you told it to save credentials in a dialog? the whole authorizations stuff is so confusing
[06:14] <ripps_> Can someone help me figure out why my external harddrive won't mount automatically anymore. I think it's problem with devkit-disks
[06:21] <Hew> ripps, bug 386699?
[06:22] <ripps> Hew: I can't mount internal ntfs either. I think it just doesn't know what to do with ntfs partitions anymore
[06:23] <Hew> ripps, that's not an ntfs-specific bug
[06:24] <ripps> Hew: I know, I get a "cannot get volume.fstype.alternative" error when I connect or try to mount it
[06:24] <ripps> I can do it manually using mount.ntfs-3g, but I shouldn't have to
[06:30] <ripps> Hmm... it might be a polciykit thing
[06:30] <ripps>  Not Authorized: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.CheckAuthorization() on /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority at name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files
[10:08] <Giles> I have just updated karmic and compiz is working again hurrah!
[10:58] <BUGabundo> bons dias
[11:15] <BUGabundo> any one seeing compiz backtraces?
[11:15] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/392850
[11:16] <virtuald> how do i debootstrap ubuntu?
[11:16] <BUGabundo> virtuald: ah?
[11:17] <virtuald> morning abundo
[11:18] <virtuald> not using compiz right now
[11:18] <BUGabundo> virtuald: what do you want to bootstrap?
[11:18] <virtuald> would it work to debootstrap to /nfsroot and using that as rootfs for pxe boot?
[11:19] <virtuald> i think jaunty
[11:19] <BUGabundo> no idea
[11:19] <virtuald> 32-bit
[11:19] <BUGabundo> never attemped it
[11:19] <virtuald> i had a debian-live system working before but i deleted it
[11:20] <virtuald> it used some live iso i think
[11:20] <tgpraveen> now with KMS enabled is anyone here with intel graphics finding it useful?
[11:21] <tgpraveen> ie is their resume suspoend become lighting fast as was demonstrated?
[11:21] <tgpraveen> is their boot actuaaly flicker free?
[11:21]  * tgpraveen is a sad nvidia card owner
[11:24] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: I have no prob with my nvidia
[11:24] <BUGabundo> what is your up to?
[11:33] <tgpraveen> BUGabundo: oh dont get me wrong nvidia for the paast 3 yrs or so has been the best bet for any linux user
[11:33] <tgpraveen> and very stable but
[11:33] <tgpraveen> we wont be getting KMS
[11:34] <tgpraveen> anytime soon. probably not till 10.4 at the very least
[11:34] <tgpraveen> all thx to the nvidia drivers being proprietary
[11:34] <BUGabundo> so?
[11:34] <BUGabundo> why not use what ever we had until now?
[11:35] <tgpraveen> BUGabundo: yeah it will run just as fine but without benefits of KMS
[11:35] <tgpraveen> so i was wondering how the expereience of the intel card users was with KMS ?
[11:36] <tgpraveen> does it really deliver in the fast suspend resume area
[11:37] <Hobbsee> not so fa
[11:37] <Hobbsee> suspend broke last tie i tied
[11:37] <Hobbsee> not sure on speed
[11:38] <Hobbsee> moe unstable atm, though
[11:38] <tgpraveen> Hobbsee: ok. and the flicker free boot?
[11:39] <tgpraveen> is identi.ca down for anyone else
[11:39] <BUGabundo> hey Hobbsee. nice to see you back!
[11:39] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: Up
[11:39] <tgpraveen> i get a blank white page with the text "No such site"
[11:39] <BUGabundo> my suspend is fast, and so is resume
[11:39] <BUGabundo> but broken on 75% of times
[11:39] <BUGabundo> hibernate is working great dought
[11:40] <tgpraveen> BUGabundo: how fast? in the KMS demo they showed a laptop and by the time they lifted the lid resume had completed and the screen was ready to be used
[11:40] <tgpraveen> thats FAST
[11:41] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: humm like 3 secs?
[11:44] <tgpraveen> BUGabundo: probably.
[11:44] <tgpraveen> is that what u r getting right now?
[11:44] <BUGabundo> I think so
[11:44] <BUGabundo> if you like I could try to time it
[11:45] <BUGabundo> but last time it did it, I was forced to reboot and fsck
[11:45] <tgpraveen> BUGabundo: that would be intresting
[11:45] <tgpraveen> lol
[11:45] <BUGabundo> I got to Lock screen and fall back to TTY
[11:45] <BUGabundo> I still have the .crash for it
[11:45] <BUGabundo> forgot to file it
[11:45] <BUGabundo> let me do it now
[11:46] <BUGabundo> $ apport-cli -c susres.2009-06-24_14\:39\:24.683568.crash
[11:46] <BUGabundo> *** Error: Invalid problem report
[11:46] <BUGabundo> You are not allowed to access this problem report.
[11:46] <BUGabundo> gotta love apport
[11:47] <BUGabundo> let me guess, I need to sudo it ?
[11:56] <mapet> help! devkit-daemon sucks up all my memory
[11:57] <mapet> anyone with the same problem?
[11:58] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: so here is mine for suspend https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/392866
[11:58] <BUGabundo> mapet: memory leak?
[11:58] <BUGabundo> mapet: can you install atop and check memory usage?
[11:58] <BUGabundo> sudo atop 2
[11:58] <BUGabundo> then 'm' to list memory
[11:59] <mapet> top shows 25.7 %mem right now
[11:59] <mapet> but it grows until my system gets unusable
[11:59] <mapet> 20% cpu
[11:59] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: " hibernate failing (presumably due to space" ahhh that's me!!!
[12:01] <mapet> it looks like gnome-power-manager was the problem... killed it and now devkit-daemon runs "normal" again
[12:02] <BUGabundo> mapet: looks like it is a mem leak
[12:02] <BUGabundo> mapet: you may need to run it on valgrind
[12:02] <mapet> yes, it looks like a bug in gnome-power-manager that triggers another bug in devkit
[12:03] <BUGabundo> !valgrind | mapet
[12:03] <BUGabundo> mapet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind
[12:04] <mapet> i think i have to reboot first as gnome-power-manager won't start...
[12:05] <BUGabundo> ok
[12:11] <miik> why karmic have only bash 3.2, not bash 4?
[12:12] <tgpraveen> miik:  ask in #ubuntu-devel
[12:18] <miik> ok
[12:19] <sjokkis> what are all these updates to HAL lately? are they are preparation for phasing it out in favour of DeviceKit?
[12:19] <dupondje> check the changelog :)
[12:19] <sjokkis> oh yea
[12:20] <dupondje> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal
[12:20] <dupondje> life is easy :D
[12:21] <sjokkis> sure as shit
[12:21] <sjokkis> thanks dude
[12:21] <dupondje> np :)
[12:21] <sjokkis> here's hoping HAL goes away soon
[12:22] <BUGabundo> !language | sjokkis
[12:26] <zniavre> hello
[12:27] <zniavre> does nvidia-glx-173 is working (it was not working few days/week ago ?
[12:29] <sjokkis> zniavre: last i checked there are problems with kernels newer than approximately 2.6.28, due to some symlinks that have been removed
[12:29] <sjokkis> the fault is on nvidias side. the symlinks shouldn't be there, as far as i understand
[12:30] <sjokkis> it's a legacy driver tho, so you maybe out of luck. i'm running a 2.6.28 kernel myself, for the moment
[12:30] <zniavre> ho ok (im on 2.6.29 they are working,they start to failed at 2.6.30)
[12:30] <sjokkis> oic
[12:30] <zniavre> yes legacy driver for legacy graphic card fx5500  :o( sadly
[12:31] <zniavre> wait and see   thank you
[13:05] <christophsturm> with the latest update all powermanagement related functions disappeared
[13:19] <Sarvatt> did gnome-power-manager just crash? its crashed a few times for me
[13:19] <Sarvatt> replying to christophsturm, sorry
[13:26] <christophsturm> Sarvatt: shouldnt i see an apport icon if it crashed?
[13:26] <christophsturm> any logs to check?
[13:32] <BUGabundo> christophsturm: a few changes came in, so now my powerbutton works again yay
[13:48] <Sarvatt> hmm, i lost all power management related functions too upon reboot actually :D
[13:49] <BUGabundo> Jockey dead?
[13:49] <BUGabundo> mine says I have no prop driver LOL
[13:50] <BUGabundo> $ sudo synaptic
[13:50] <BUGabundo> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[13:50] <BUGabundo> so funny!!!
[13:51] <BUGabundo> I remember seeing an apt_check crash earlier
[13:51] <Sarvatt> eww
[13:51] <BUGabundo> _usr_bin_apt-cache.0.crash
[13:51] <BUGabundo> should I file it, or reboot and test again?
[13:52] <BUGabundo> EVERYONE ELSE check your updates for apt changes!!! beware!
[13:54] <Sarvatt> lost battery readings from something in the past 24 hours since the last reboot
[13:55] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: ?
[14:06] <Sarvatt> yeah?
[14:06] <christophsturm> Sarvatt: if you file i can set it to confirmed :)
[14:06] <christophsturm> I mean if you file a bugreport :)
[14:06] <BluesKaj> g'day
[14:08] <Sarvatt> my userspace is so far from something i could make a bug report on it isnt funny :D haven't figured out what happened yet
[14:08] <Sarvatt> christophsturm: you lost battery readings too after rebooting?
[14:09] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: cwillu: ping can you edit https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat ?
[14:09] <BUGabundo> please remove the *edge* from those links. thanks
[14:09] <Sarvatt> edit it to what?
[14:09] <Sarvatt> why?
[14:09] <BUGabundo> edge is test server
[14:09] <BUGabundo> no need to announce it!
[14:10] <Sarvatt> oh i thought you meant xorg-edgers LOL
[14:10] <Sarvatt> but its prettier!
[14:10] <Sarvatt> only bryce and tjaalton can edit it
[14:11] <BUGabundo> ok
[14:11] <BUGabundo> can you ping one of them on this?
[14:11] <BUGabundo> bryce does love to use edge on URLs ehee
[14:12] <Sarvatt> i dont understand why you're offended by it :D
[14:12] <christophsturm> Sarvatt: for me the whole gpm applet is missing. if i add the battery charge monitor applet i see that the charge of the battery
[14:13] <Sarvatt> ohh, try loading up gconf-editor, then go to apps - gnome-power-manager - ui
[14:13] <Sarvatt> icon policy say always?
[14:15] <Sarvatt> yeah if i kill gnome-power-manager and run it from terminal i'm getting a ton of these
[14:15] <Sarvatt> (gnome-power-manager:5450): devkit-power-gobject-WARNING **: Couldn't enumerate devices: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[14:15] <Sarvatt> (gnome-power-manager:5450): devkit-power-gobject-WARNING **: Error invoking GetAll() to get properties: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[14:15] <christophsturm> devkit power was updated, maybe gnome-power manager needs to be rebuilt
[14:16] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: no ofence taken :D
[14:16] <Sarvatt> what kernel are you on by the way christophsturm?
[14:16] <christophsturm> policy was "charging" now its "always", and i when i go to power history i see only "processor", no battery etc
[14:17] <Sarvatt> yep same here
[14:17] <christophsturm> 2.6.30-10-generic #12-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 22 16:30:32 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:17] <Sarvatt> figured you didnt have it on always, mine was showing the plugged in with no battery icon
[14:18] <Sarvatt> can you bug it? i'm not even using the ubuntu gnome-power-manager or devicekit-power packages
[14:19] <christophsturm> sure
[14:19] <Sarvatt> .... or am i now
[14:22] <christophsturm> brb
[14:23] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: ahaha
[14:23] <BUGabundo> so you have no real system to test stuff?
[14:25] <Sarvatt> if i was home maybe :)
[14:26] <BUGabundo> ahah
[14:26] <BUGabundo> on the road?
[14:28] <chrissturm> Sarvatt, #392906
[14:28] <Sarvatt> yeah in traffic at the moment :)
[14:28] <BUGabundo> that sucks
[14:28] <BUGabundo> chrissturm: bug 392906
[14:28] <chrissturm> thx :)
[14:29] <BUGabundo> np
[14:31] <Sarvatt> coolies, i'll say something in there when i figure out what it is
[14:31] <Sarvatt> pulling in gnome-power-manager git over EDGE sucks, bad reception area :D
[14:33] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: I know I know
[14:33] <BUGabundo> 40% of the time I'm on GPRS too
[14:35] <Sarvatt> well its not g-p-m most likely, same errors with 2.27.2 and the previous 2.27.1-0ubuntu2.. looks like devkit-power.. its using some funky polkit branch now hmm
[14:36] <chrissturm> I dont care much about that bug because my system crashes when waking up from suspend :)
[14:38] <Sarvatt> intel graphics? the fix for _alot_ of people with resume problems will be in 2.6.31-rc2 if so
[14:39] <Twigathy> hurrah, my "read from fd0" bug went away on one of the recent devicekit/hal/somethingorother updates :D
[14:39] <Twigathy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-disks/+bug/384469 I think. Thank you fixers!
[14:46] <Sarvatt> weird, i guess he forgot to switch branches after updating devicekit-power.. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/DeviceKit/DeviceKit-power/
[14:46] <Sarvatt> but when i clone it master has whats in the polkit1 branch
[14:50] <Sarvatt> downgrading devicekit-power fixed g-p-m
[14:51] <Sarvatt> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-power/008-1/+build/1057967
[14:54] <Sarvatt> too  bad chrissturm left
[15:07] <Sarvatt> christophsturm: reverting devicekit-power fixes it https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-power/008-1/+build/1057967
[15:11] <Sarvatt> i'm building 009 from git now to see if the pm-powersave commit that was added between the two is reliant on other changes post 008 or if its just that thats broken
[15:56] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[15:57] <m_tadeu> is it possible to disable the mouse pad of the laptop when I connect another usb mouse?
[16:07] <karmic> how can j remove lilo?
[16:09] <m_tadeu> karmic: I'm not sure, but if you install grub, lilo will go away
[16:10] <karmic> j did it, anyhow i'll try again
[16:11] <Sarvatt> m_tadeu: do you not have a hardware key combination or button to disable/enable the touchpad?
[16:11] <tgpraveen> !lilo
[16:12] <m_tadeu> karmic: there's no key for that here...
[16:12] <karmic> lilo is the only one that accept my installation of karmic
[16:13] <m_tadeu> did you try the alpha2?
[16:14] <karmic> i am using it
[16:14] <m_tadeu> that might be a problem of grub2....did you try the alpha1(I think it still install grub1 by default)
[16:16] <karmic> j understand maybe it would be better to download alpha1, that was ok
[16:16] <m_tadeu> btw...you had a problem with grub2? what was it?
[16:19] <karmic> when j installed alpha2, it asked me wich installer j wanted, (the one olready installed, grub2 or lilo) the only choice accepted was lilo
[16:20] <karmic> it gave me an error with  grub and i could not continue the installation
[16:20] <cyphermox> karmic: could you tell us what kind of system you're installing this on?
[16:22] <karmic> notebook acer , intel core duo 2 gb ram, ati, 386
[16:34] <cyphermox> do you remember or do you have a copy of the error message grub was giving?
[16:39] <karmic> cyphermox, no i don't
[16:41] <cyphermox> if you want to replace lilo with grub2 you could probably just re-try to apt-get install grub2 and you would at the very least see the error message, if there ends up being an issue
[16:46] <karmic> i did apt-get install grub2, it did it, and asked if a wanted  to remove mbr, by autoremove, j did so
[16:49] <cyphermox> ok. and grub didn't come up with error messages?
[16:49] <bazhang> he quit
[16:50] <cyphermox> gah! :D
[17:26] <SiDi> Anyone using the trunk version of notify-osd right now ?
[17:31] <Dark-Star> how can I configure xorg to start up at 1024x768 instead of 800x600? I have to enter System Settings after each login to get to 1024x768
[17:34] <Dark-Star> also, how can I tell which xserver is currently running? I installed xserver-vmware but I want to make sure that I'm not running the old xserver
[18:00] <penguin42> is anyone else having problems with some gnome apps crashing in libgail since an update about 2 weeks ago?
[18:29] <coz_> guys is there a kdm theme manager/changer   the default ubuntu kdm theme is really butt ugly :)
[18:29] <coz_> how do I change these?
[18:30] <tgpraveen> !language
[18:30] <coz_> tgpraveen,  butt is a non family friendly  word?????
[18:31] <penguin42> coz_: Can't you do that from the kde control centre?
[18:31] <coz_> penguin42,  i dont know ... understand I am very new to kde and this is of course is kde 4.3 beta  ... I am way too used to gnome so I have no clear idea where things are located yet :)
[18:32] <penguin42> coz_: There's a big control centre/settings thing where you can do pretty much everything - and I'm pretty sure you can change themes there
[18:32] <coz_> penguin42,  under system settings  Appearance there are window themes and splash  screen themes  but no kdm theme references
[18:33] <penguin42> coz_: Hmm is there something for login window or the like?
[18:34] <coz_> penguin42,  not that I can no
[18:34] <coz_> not that I can see...no :)
[18:34] <penguin42> coz_: At the top do you see a General/Advanced tab?
[18:34] <coz_> penguin42,  you must be as used to gnome as i am :)
[18:35] <penguin42> coz_: Yeh I mostly use gnome but occasionally KDE
[18:35] <penguin42> coz_: On the system settings window, go to advanced and then 'Login manager'
[18:35] <coz_> penguin42,  :)  understood.. now I want to   understand the settings in kde 4.3 beta  but this one has been bothering me for a week and very few links  appear when googling
[18:36] <coz_> penguin42,  that is all greyed out
[18:36] <coz_> let me try it as root hold on
[18:38] <coz_> ok it worked    as root but let me log off and test it
[18:40] <coz_> well that  didnt work
[18:40] <penguin42> hmm odd
[19:03]  * penguin42 gets confused - rhythmbox hasn't worked for mefor 2 weeks crashing in libgail; so I install libgail-dbg and it works - even though looking at the /proc/../maps rhythmbox isn't using it
[19:04] <penguin42> food would seem to be the best solution
[19:18] <drogenhilfe> does anyone know what has changed from jaunty to karmic (both UNR)? I have no sound in jaunty, but in karmic it works (Samsung NC10)
[19:30] <penguin42> drogenhilfe: I think both pulse and the kernel audio code have been updated - still can't complain if it's going in the right direction!
[19:41] <PolitikerALT> Hi, where do I find the "desktop appereance" settings in KDE 4.3?
[20:39] <supreme> hi
[20:40] <supreme> im using karmic to discover bugs
[20:40] <supreme> and something happen to mi dell inspiron 6400 (intel 945gm)
[20:41] <supreme> when i left some minutes without using and screen goes blank, it cannot go back from blank
[20:41] <supreme> (sorry my english, my main language is spanish)
[20:41] <BUGabundo> hi everyone
[20:41] <supreme> hi BUGabundo
[20:42] <supreme> BUGabundo, do you speak spanish?
[20:42] <BUGabundo> portuguese
[20:42] <supreme> oh, i see (because of your nick)
[20:42] <supreme> maybe you could help me
[20:43] <supreme> i have a intel 945gm, and when i left my machine some minutes without using and screen goes blank, it cannot go back from blank
[20:45] <BUGabundo> I read it the 1st time
[20:45] <BUGabundo> all I can say is that I think GPM is preaty dead
[20:45] <BUGabundo> for now turn of screensaver
[20:45] <supreme> hummm
[20:45] <BUGabundo> my machine is going to sleep on its own too and failing to resume properly
[20:45] <BUGabundo> plus no Battery control right now
[20:45] <BUGabundo> :(
[20:46] <supreme> wow
[20:47] <pushrax> Hi all. I do "sudo do-release-upgrade" to update to karmic and it says "No new release found".  Does this mean I already have it?
[20:47] <pushrax> I'm still on 2.6.28-13-generic kernel
[20:48] <pushrax> anyone?
[20:49] <BUGabundo> pushrax: GUI or server ?
[20:49] <pushrax> gui
[20:49] <BUGabundo> pushrax: for GUI use $ update-manager -d
[20:49] <BUGabundo> you forgot the '-d'
[20:49] <pushrax> ok trying now.  thx
[20:51] <pushrax> ok. it's working on something
[20:53] <pushrax> brb
[20:53] <BUGabundo> pushrax: please read release notes, make sure you have FREE disk
[20:53] <BUGabundo> and have removed all 3rd party repos/ppas
[20:54] <BUGabundo> also try using a closer mirror that has karmic packages!
[20:58] <pushrax> yep plenty of disk space and also read about grub 2 not linking dual boots
[20:58] <pushrax> brb
[21:01] <BUGabundo> anyone else with aptitude broken ??
[21:01] <BUGabundo> apt_check
[21:10] <pushrax> BUGabundo: I might give it a miss as it wants to downlaod 2gbs of updates over 20 hours.  better to probaly install from scratch with alpha 2.  Thanks for your time and help
[21:11] <BUGabundo> pushrax: change mirrors
[21:11] <BUGabundo> plus 2G?? that's toooo much
[21:11] <BUGabundo> did you really had all of that?
[21:25] <poseidon> I installed right after the alpha 1 release.  I chose the (then  not default ext4 filesystem).  Other than the new grub bootloader is there anything important that I'm going to be missing from simply updating from the alpha 1 release?
[21:27] <BUGabundo> poseidon: other then grub2. no
[21:32] <TwoToneSpirit> Hey all - just thought I'd check in.  How's Karmic coming?  Thanks for your hard work.
[21:34] <BUGabundo> TwoToneSpirit: heeh
[21:34] <BUGabundo> going fine as usual
[21:34] <BUGabundo> a bit unstable right now
[21:36] <TwoToneSpirit> yeah, to be expected I suppose
[21:36] <TwoToneSpirit> I've already stumbled upon a couple of blogs that are getting amped for it
[21:37] <BUGabundo> feel free to test it, under a VM
[21:42] <TwoToneSpirit> Do you enjoy development?  I want to get involved, but I don't know where to begin.  I write PHP very well, but I don't really know any other current languages.
[21:43] <cdE|Woozy> ka
[21:46] <BUGabundo> TwoToneSpirit: I write zero (code) languages
[21:46] <BUGabundo> eehe
[21:47] <BUGabundo> anyone can and should help how ever they can
[21:47] <TwoToneSpirit> :-)
[21:47] <BUGabundo> I do it by testing, reporting, triaging, helping users,advocating etc
[21:47] <TwoToneSpirit> what do you do for the most part?  What is most needed?
[21:47] <TwoToneSpirit> totally - I do those things as well, especially outreach and support
[21:47] <TwoToneSpirit> what do you mean "triaging?"
[21:48] <BUGabundo> taking a look at new bugs on LP, and making sure they are in good condition, also upstreaming them if needed
[21:50] <supreme> i want to know what will happen with gpm ?
[21:53] <BUGabundo> supreme: me too
[21:53] <BUGabundo> eheh
[21:53] <joetheodd> Did battery related stuff blow up for anyone else using a laptop?
[21:57] <BUGabundo> joetheodd: +1
[21:57] <BUGabundo> nothing here! not even LCD bright :((
[22:04] <supreme> oh, i have a problem mounting a partition that i cannot mount since i update to karmic
[22:04] <supreme> cannot mount with nautilus
[22:04] <supreme> but in console i can
[22:04] <supreme> i get this error:     DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus
[22:05] <BUGabundo> yeah me too
[22:05] <BUGabundo> started today
[22:05] <BUGabundo> please check LP for it
[22:05] <BUGabundo> if not there,please file it
[22:06] <BUGabundo> supreme: $ubuntu-bug dbus
[22:06] <supreme> :O
[22:06] <supreme> lets see
[22:07] <supreme> oh nice :)
[22:51] <akio> is gnome-do broken in karmic?
[22:51] <BUGabundo> not for me
[22:52] <BUGabundo> but it does die sometimes
[22:52] <akio> mine is compaing about a missong dll, ftw
[22:52] <akio> missing*
[22:53] <akio> http://pastebin.com/db344ed
[22:54] <akio> seems like a missing mono lib or something
[22:55] <BUGabundo> akio: $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[22:55] <akio> just did that
[22:55] <BUGabundo> and if that doesn't do it, open synaptic and FORCE the install of those mono libs
[22:56] <akio> im gonna re-install the libmono-posix2.0-cil
[22:59] <akio> fixed it
[22:59] <akio> it was the mono libs
[23:00] <akio> i dont really like that stuff creeping into the system but i like gnome-do
[23:02] <BUGabundo> me too
[23:03] <akio> i saw something that would stop the stuff from getting installed, some sort of watchdog program
[23:04] <BUGabundo> no idea