[16:43] <_MMA_> macvr: Dude. I'm diggin' nm-signal-100 v.3.
[16:43] <macvr> _MMA_: :) finally !
[16:43] <_MMA_> I like that fat little bottom piece.
[16:43] <_MMA_> haha. :P
[16:44] <_MMA_> We'll see about the shadow as some will complain. But it's a minor quibble.
[16:44] <macvr> yeah i thought of the bottom, made no sense in having the antennae , when it is not going to be clear
[16:45] <macvr> _MMA_: what shadow?
[16:45] <macvr> the black? bottom line?
[16:45] <_MMA_> The ground one.
[16:45] <macvr> if people dont like it , we can remove it
[16:47] <_MMA_> macvr: I'll make you a deal. You get the base set done, with 1 round of comments and maybe edits to address issues I'll make sure these hit the .5 release that goes into the archive.
[16:47] <macvr> this is a beter icon than the first version. it has better padding.
[16:47] <macvr> _MMA_: ok... DEAL :)
[16:49] <_MMA_> macvr: I want you to play with how the signal strength is displayed though. One idea I had was to start with your green color and go up in opacity or just the strength of green.
[16:49] <_MMA_> ie:
[16:49] <_MMA_> Start with 25% green, then 50, 70 and then 100.
[16:49] <_MMA_> Something like that.
[16:50] <macvr> that wont be clear... it will just become semi-transparent ... i dont think it would look good
[16:51] <_MMA_> Im not explaining it right. Ill grab yours and show you.
[16:51] <macvr> ok
[16:54] <_MMA_> Damn. This thing is complex.
[16:55] <macvr> ;p
[16:56] <_MMA_> macvr: Basically, if the final arc is 100% green it would descend from there 'till it looked like your nm-signal-75 does at the top. Kinda flipped.
[16:56] <_MMA_> But instead of all green or all gray, it would be % of green.
[16:56] <_MMA_> I know that still sounds odd.
[16:57] <Cimi> blue is better
[16:57] <Cimi> imho
[16:57] <macvr> you mean shades of green? dark green 100%, light green 50%?
[16:58] <Cimi> because red/green is usually recognized for temp (cpu temp) or errors
[16:58] <Cimi> blue remembers air, sky (wifi)
[16:58] <_MMA_> macvr: Shades! Damn. I need some rest. :P In the end, it's just an idea. If you got that base 5 done with a similar motif to what you have, that would be fine.
[17:00] <macvr> _MMA_: but doing it in shades will not be very easy visual indicator.... another factor is , finding the right shade of green for different panel colors ,dark shade would not be visible in dark panels
[17:00] <macvr> and so on
[17:01] <_MMA_> macvr: Don't worry too much about it (just keep it in mind) as we can't plan for every use case.
[17:02] <macvr> _MMA_: i'll try it though...  i'll see how it works
[17:03] <_MMA_> Sure. If it's trouble, forget about it. No use on spending too much time on something that doesn't work.
[17:03] <macvr> yup
[17:04] <macvr> Cimi: well blue is used right now... so wanted to try something different... but maybe for version 2.0 of breathe we could go back to blue :)
[17:04] <_MMA_> macvr: For now, I'm gonna nix the ones there currently. I'm doing a bit of cleanup. Post to the list once you have the 5 of them done. Give a nice shot of the 5 of them together.
[17:05] <_MMA_> Green/blue. I'm not chuffed either way. Though Cimi has a point.
[17:05] <macvr> _MMA_: ok... just dont remove the attachments
[17:05] <_MMA_> np
[17:05] <_MMA_> macvr: You clean them up once we're final.
[17:05] <macvr> sure
[17:05] <macvr> np
[17:07] <SiDi> macvr: kudos on v3
[17:07] <SiDi> i like that shape
[17:07] <macvr> SiDi: thanx :)
[17:08] <macvr> SiDi: _MMA_ : actually i had done that shape a long time ago, but got tied up with emblems and only now i got to it
[17:08] <macvr> also smileys!
[17:09] <macvr> well... i'll upload the set tomorrow :)
[17:10] <_MMA_> Cleaned up to reflect new uploads. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
[17:11] <_MMA_> macvr: We're going to freeze this weekend to prep for the .50 release. Which I hope to get out July 6th.
[17:11] <_MMA_> We're going to have a mass review and some testing.
[17:13] <macvr> _MMA_: i got tied up in papercuts ! that thing is a huge mess! but definitely by tomorrow this time it is sure to be done... or it that too late ?
[17:13] <_MMA_> Naa, naa. Plenty of time. As long as I get it by, say Tuesday I'll upload.
[17:14] <macvr> Ok... :)
[17:14] <_MMA_> Things I know for sure won't need any review/fixes/whatever (usually Sebastien's submissions) I'll usually make an exception for.
[17:16] <macvr> _MMA_: whats the problem with emblem-important?
[17:17] <macvr> _MMA_: also, is this shape ok for emblem-default> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/emblem-default1.png
[17:18] <macvr> I'v done only for the 128,48px , but just to check
[17:18] <_MMA_> Not feelin' that.
[17:18] <_MMA_> emblem-important I guess is fine.
[17:18]  * _MMA_ looks again.
[17:19] <_MMA_> macvr: I think the fact that is has a shine on it that accentuates the edge where the others don't is my issue.
[17:20] <_MMA_> macvr: Little inconsistencies like that are why we're having the review.
[17:20] <macvr> you dont want the shine?
[17:21] <macvr> i can remove it
[17:21] <macvr> _MMA_: i also wanted to ask... am i doing the labelling right ? within the layers? or are you to do it all over again?
[17:21] <_MMA_> No. As it's a touch alot of the others don't have. And If I've uploaded anything that does, we'll have to fix.
[17:21] <macvr> ok , i'll remove the shine
[17:22] <_MMA_> macvr: It's been correct so far. folder/icon_name should be correct. Every once in a while there's a hickup. Everyone does it. It's ok.
[17:22] <macvr> :)
[17:24] <macvr> _MMA_: the emblem-default.. check mark like the one Daniel has done? is that ok?
[17:25] <macvr> Daniel's >apps/checkbox
[17:26] <_MMA_> macvr: That's 1 thing artists need to keep a sharp eye on. When tackling a subset of the whole. Consistency. Shadows, shine, line width. Stuff like that.
[17:26] <_MMA_> Lemmie look up his icon.
[17:27] <_MMA_> Hmm... I'm unsure where it is.
[17:28] <macvr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=checkbox.png
[17:28] <macvr> _MMA_: ^
[17:28] <_MMA_> Ahh...
[17:29] <_MMA_> Well, try it. We
[17:29] <_MMA_> gah
[17:29] <_MMA_> We'll see how it works.
[17:29] <macvr> Ok...
[17:30] <_MMA_> Ok. I'm gonna write some emails then go enjoy the rest of my Saturday outside. Later.
[17:30] <SiDi> see you _MMA_
[20:46] <macvr> anyone knows what the default size of the panel is?
[20:50] <artir> 25 pixels tall
[20:51] <macvr> thanx :)