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bdmurraymicahg: yes00:00
micahg:), thanks00:01
micahgIt's weird00:01
micahgwhen I started triaging, I had no problem moving stuff to the answer tracker00:01
micahgnow I hesistate00:01
BUGabundowoot01:24
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BUGabundobom dia11:06
BUGabundohey YoBoY11:06
YoBoYolá BUGabundo :) tudo bem?11:07
BUGabundotd11:07
YoBoYhi11:07
BUGabundohave you seen mvo??11:07
YoBoYno11:07
BUGabundook. will file the trace to LP11:08
BUGabundohere it is11:15
BUGabundohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/39285011:15
ubot4Launchpad bug 392850 in compiz "*** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/compiz.real: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0000000002458930 ***" [Undecided,New]11:15
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BUGabundoare all of this "late resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" bugs dupes? ogasawara11:51
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kklimonda___any idea if there is some bug in xchat that breaks connection.. to freenode?12:55
kklimonda__any idea if there is some bug in xchat that breaks connection.. to freenode? ;D13:00
kklimonda___as you can see my xchat session has a "small" lag issue ;)13:00
bencrisfordkklimonda_: Id load a different client, see if its your connection, but if it works fine then report the bug in xchat13:01
kklimonda___start talking! :P13:05
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BrunoXLambertif you want people talking, #ubuntu is a great place.13:07
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BUGabundokklimonda or #-offtopic eheh13:27
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kklimondajoin #ubuntu-motu15:50
kklimondaech..15:50
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kklimonda|testdamn, my xchat session is out..16:14
kklimonda17:1316:16
kklimonda17:1416:16
kklimonda|testwell, not bad - only 3 minutes16:16
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kklimonda|testgrrr... over 12 minutes already..17:39
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penguin42are there any tips on using the gnome -dbg libs? I have a series of gnome apps all gailing in libgail and libgail-dbg has a set of modules in/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules - what persuades gtk to use the debug modules from there?19:55
penguin42setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib64/debug/usr/lib: didn't seem to help19:59
penguin42BUGabundo: Are you any good with -dbg packages?20:35
* penguin42 can't quite see how you are supposed to use the gnome ones20:39
BUGabundopenguin42: how good need I to be?20:41
BUGabundohi everyone20:41
penguin42BUGabundo: Well, how do I persuade libgail-dbg to get used? I've tried setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib64/debug/usr/lib20:42
BUGabundoyou don't!20:42
BUGabundoyou install it, and run the app that makes use of it on gdb20:42
penguin42ah and you just get a better backtrace?20:44
* penguin42 has a whole raft of gnome apps dieing in libgail since an update about 2 weeks ago in karmic20:45
BUGabundoI don't get anything20:46
BUGabundoif you do, great20:46
BUGabundofile it and send it also upstream20:46
penguin42yeh I might just debug it and fix it - it's being a PITA20:47
* penguin42 is kind of surprised that more people aren't complaining about it though - it seems to be breaking a lot of GNOME apps for me20:48
BUGabundopenguin42: stupid idea: reinstall the lib?20:50
BUGabundoand run a FSCK 1st20:50
BUGabundofile corruption *can* occur20:50
penguin42yeh, I guess actually something like debchk (or what's the name?) might be the easiest way to check for that20:51
penguin42damn, what is the name of that20:52
BUGabundonaa20:54
BUGabundojust clear apt cache20:54
BUGabundolol20:54
penguin42I just remember there was a deb command specifically for checking installed packages20:55
penguin42I just can't remember what it was :-(20:55
penguin42ah! debsums20:55
BUGabundoyep20:55
BUGabundothat it20:55
BUGabundoI should run it too20:56
penguin42hmm well it reckons all the libgail and libgail-gnome etc seem OK20:58
BUGabundonever the less try to reinstall penguin4221:00
BUGabundoeven use 'aptitude' on verbose mode21:00
BUGabundowho know21:00
penguin42if debsum says it's OK, it's OK - md5sums don't lie21:01
BUGabundoif only YOU have the trouble21:01
BUGabundosoemthing much be21:01
penguin42yeh, it's more likely to be some combination of the settings that I have that are triggering it21:02
BUGabundoahahahaha21:02
BUGabundoif you trust it so much....21:02
BUGabundoeasy21:02
BUGabundostart a daily livecd21:02
BUGabundoor a qemu21:02
BUGabundotest it, then copy your settings21:03
penguin42yeh I have a virtualbox I could do it on - but I may as well just debug it on the system with the problem (my main system)21:03
penguin42there's nothing like a machine with a reproducable problem for fixing a fault on21:03
penguin42or I should say a mostly reproducable bug - it sometimes works, but very rarely - most annoying21:05
BUGabundopenguin42: if you can reproduce it on a new install, it should make it much easier21:06
penguin42true but given there aren't a zillion people battering the channel saying loads of gnome apps are dieing on them I think it's unlikely21:07
BUGabundoeheh21:12
penguin42is there anywhere I can find intermediate versions of packages? e.g. the current karmic version of libgtk2.0-common is 2.17.2-0ubuntu2 and that's on gb.archive.ubuntu.com, and the previous version there is 2.16.1-0ubuntu2 but according to my dpkg.log there was a 2.17.0-0ubuntu1 at one point23:08
BUGabundopenguin42: LP23:08
penguin42LP?23:08
BUGabundolaunchpad23:09
penguin42oh I didn't realise it had a package repository23:09
kklimonda|testBUGabundo: how complete is LP list of packages? i.e. are old entries deleted at some point?23:10
BUGabundokklimonda AFAIK no23:12
BUGabundoall published packages should remain accessible23:12
* kklimonda|test cries over xchat23:12
penguin42is there a way I can persuade apt to pull a particular set of versions from there - or anyway I can pull all the debs associated with a particular build?23:13
BUGabundopenguin42: No. I have a bug filed on that. to make a PPA for superseed packages!23:15
BUGabundokklimonda why?23:15
kklimonda|testBUGabundo: I get lags from hell on freenode for some reason23:16
penguin42BUGabundo: Yeh that's annoying, I need to pull a set of 11 for this - they should create a sources.list entry23:16
BUGabundopenguin42: open synaptic, choose the package with more depend, force older version, generate the wget script?23:17
BUGabundooh wait doesn't work for LP.... :(23:17
BUGabundostill you manage to get the deb names, making it easy to search23:17
BUGabundokklimonda try pidgin :k23:17
kklimonda|testbe serious for once ;)23:17
kklimonda|testbrb23:17
penguin42I could just copy/paste the html of the lp page and frob it - still I really shouldn't need to23:18
BUGabundopenguin42: make a web service that does that for you !23:19
* penguin42 has got them now - still, it should be an easy fix for the launchpad guys23:20
BUGabundopenguin42: wrong # eheh try #launchpad23:20
bencrisfordis there a shell command to llist lines in a file?23:21
penguin42list?23:21
bencrisfordas in no. of lines23:21
penguin42wc -l23:21
BUGabundobencrisford: wc -l23:21
bencrisfordok ty :)23:21
BUGabundodarn you were faster !!!23:21
penguin42BUGabundo: It looks like that gtk/gail bug I was talking about before has been spotted by a few other people - but in different apps; I suspect but don't know that it is this one #39139823:22
BUGabundobug 39139823:24
ubot4Launchpad bug 391398 in gtk+2.0 "Applications segfault with gtk+ version 2.17.2 when selecting listbox values" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39139823:24
penguin42I'm not sure it's actually the same bug but it sounds suspicous23:25
kklimondalet's see how it works though bnc..23:29
BUGabundoeheh23:29
BUGabundo!ping | kklimonda23:30
ubot4kklimonda: ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore23:30
kklimondanice, I can now use both xchat and irssi at the same time :)23:34
BUGabundoahah23:34
BUGabundo!ping | kklimonda23:34
ubot4kklimonda: ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore23:34
penguin42how many irc clients do you need?23:35
kklimondapenguin42: I use irssi as a proxy23:35
penguin42why?23:35
kklimondabecause of some bizarre problems I get when using xchat to connect to freenode23:35
penguin42odd, I use ksirc (probably the last person using it...)23:36
kklimondabasically I get lags from hell - up to 12 minutes23:36
penguin42I've never seen that on freenode, I saw that on dal.net for a couple of weeks and then it got fixed - I assume one bad server23:36
kklimondapenguin42: I was having this issue since I've moved to xchat, only on freenode and only with xchat (I've been testing today connected to the same server via xchat and irssi from my pc)23:40
xteejxHi guys, quick question, is there an apport hook for hal in Jaunty, all i can see on the wiki is source_hal-cups-utils.py for printing debugging23:57
kklimondaxteejx: I don't think so23:58
xteejx:( shame - oh well no worries, thanks kklimonda :)23:59

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