[00:00] <bdmurray> micahg: yes
[00:01] <micahg> :), thanks
[00:01] <micahg> It's weird
[00:01] <micahg> when I started triaging, I had no problem moving stuff to the answer tracker
[00:01] <micahg> now I hesistate
[01:24] <BUGabundo> woot
[11:06] <BUGabundo> bom dia
[11:06] <BUGabundo> hey YoBoY
[11:07] <YoBoY> olá BUGabundo :) tudo bem?
[11:07] <BUGabundo> td
[11:07] <YoBoY> hi
[11:07] <BUGabundo> have you seen mvo??
[11:07] <YoBoY> no
[11:08] <BUGabundo> ok. will file the trace to LP
[11:15] <BUGabundo> here it is
[11:15] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/392850
[11:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 392850 in compiz "*** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/compiz.real: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0000000002458930 ***" [Undecided,New]
[11:51] <BUGabundo> are all of this "late resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" bugs dupes? ogasawara
[12:55] <kklimonda___> any idea if there is some bug in xchat that breaks connection.. to freenode?
[13:00] <kklimonda__> any idea if there is some bug in xchat that breaks connection.. to freenode? ;D
[13:00] <kklimonda___> as you can see my xchat session has a "small" lag issue ;)
[13:01] <bencrisford> kklimonda_: Id load a different client, see if its your connection, but if it works fine then report the bug in xchat
[13:05] <kklimonda___> start talking! :P
[13:07] <BrunoXLambert> if you want people talking, #ubuntu is a great place.
[13:27] <BUGabundo> kklimonda or #-offtopic eheh
[15:50] <kklimonda> join #ubuntu-motu
[15:50] <kklimonda> ech..
[16:14] <kklimonda|test> damn, my xchat session is out..
[16:16] <kklimonda> 17:13
[16:16] <kklimonda> 17:14
[16:16] <kklimonda|test> well, not bad - only 3 minutes
[17:39] <kklimonda|test> grrr... over 12 minutes already..
[19:55] <penguin42> are there any tips on using the gnome -dbg libs? I have a series of gnome apps all gailing in libgail and libgail-dbg has a set of modules in/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules - what persuades gtk to use the debug modules from there?
[19:59] <penguin42> setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib64/debug/usr/lib: didn't seem to help
[20:35] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Are you any good with -dbg packages?
[20:39]  * penguin42 can't quite see how you are supposed to use the gnome ones
[20:41] <BUGabundo> penguin42: how good need I to be?
[20:41] <BUGabundo> hi everyone
[20:42] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Well, how do I persuade libgail-dbg to get used? I've tried setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /usr/lib64/debug/usr/lib
[20:42] <BUGabundo> you don't!
[20:42] <BUGabundo> you install it, and run the app that makes use of it on gdb
[20:44] <penguin42> ah and you just get a better backtrace?
[20:45]  * penguin42 has a whole raft of gnome apps dieing in libgail since an update about 2 weeks ago in karmic
[20:46] <BUGabundo> I don't get anything
[20:46] <BUGabundo> if you do, great
[20:46] <BUGabundo> file it and send it also upstream
[20:47] <penguin42> yeh I might just debug it and fix it - it's being a PITA
[20:48]  * penguin42 is kind of surprised that more people aren't complaining about it though - it seems to be breaking a lot of GNOME apps for me
[20:50] <BUGabundo> penguin42: stupid idea: reinstall the lib?
[20:50] <BUGabundo> and run a FSCK 1st
[20:50] <BUGabundo> file corruption *can* occur
[20:51] <penguin42> yeh, I guess actually something like debchk (or what's the name?) might be the easiest way to check for that
[20:52] <penguin42> damn, what is the name of that
[20:54] <BUGabundo> naa
[20:54] <BUGabundo> just clear apt cache
[20:54] <BUGabundo> lol
[20:55] <penguin42> I just remember there was a deb command specifically for checking installed packages
[20:55] <penguin42> I just can't remember what it was :-(
[20:55] <penguin42> ah! debsums
[20:55] <BUGabundo> yep
[20:55] <BUGabundo> that it
[20:56] <BUGabundo> I should run it too
[20:58] <penguin42> hmm well it reckons all the libgail and libgail-gnome etc seem OK
[21:00] <BUGabundo> never the less try to reinstall penguin42
[21:00] <BUGabundo> even use 'aptitude' on verbose mode
[21:00] <BUGabundo> who know
[21:01] <penguin42> if debsum says it's OK, it's OK - md5sums don't lie
[21:01] <BUGabundo> if only YOU have the trouble
[21:01] <BUGabundo> soemthing much be
[21:02] <penguin42> yeh, it's more likely to be some combination of the settings that I have that are triggering it
[21:02] <BUGabundo> ahahahaha
[21:02] <BUGabundo> if you trust it so much....
[21:02] <BUGabundo> easy
[21:02] <BUGabundo> start a daily livecd
[21:02] <BUGabundo> or a qemu
[21:03] <BUGabundo> test it, then copy your settings
[21:03] <penguin42> yeh I have a virtualbox I could do it on - but I may as well just debug it on the system with the problem (my main system)
[21:03] <penguin42> there's nothing like a machine with a reproducable problem for fixing a fault on
[21:05] <penguin42> or I should say a mostly reproducable bug - it sometimes works, but very rarely - most annoying
[21:06] <BUGabundo> penguin42: if you can reproduce it on a new install, it should make it much easier
[21:07] <penguin42> true but given there aren't a zillion people battering the channel saying loads of gnome apps are dieing on them I think it's unlikely
[21:12] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:08] <penguin42> is there anywhere I can find intermediate versions of packages? e.g. the current karmic version of libgtk2.0-common is 2.17.2-0ubuntu2 and that's on gb.archive.ubuntu.com, and the previous version there is 2.16.1-0ubuntu2 but according to my dpkg.log there was a 2.17.0-0ubuntu1 at one point
[23:08] <BUGabundo> penguin42: LP
[23:08] <penguin42> LP?
[23:09] <BUGabundo> launchpad
[23:09] <penguin42> oh I didn't realise it had a package repository
[23:10] <kklimonda|test> BUGabundo: how complete is LP list of packages? i.e. are old entries deleted at some point?
[23:12] <BUGabundo> kklimonda AFAIK no
[23:12] <BUGabundo> all published packages should remain accessible
[23:12]  * kklimonda|test cries over xchat
[23:13] <penguin42> is there a way I can persuade apt to pull a particular set of versions from there - or anyway I can pull all the debs associated with a particular build?
[23:15] <BUGabundo> penguin42: No. I have a bug filed on that. to make a PPA for superseed packages!
[23:15] <BUGabundo> kklimonda why?
[23:16] <kklimonda|test> BUGabundo: I get lags from hell on freenode for some reason
[23:16] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Yeh that's annoying, I need to pull a set of 11 for this - they should create a sources.list entry
[23:17] <BUGabundo> penguin42: open synaptic, choose the package with more depend, force older version, generate the wget script?
[23:17] <BUGabundo> oh wait doesn't work for LP.... :(
[23:17] <BUGabundo> still you manage to get the deb names, making it easy to search
[23:17] <BUGabundo> kklimonda try pidgin :k
[23:17] <kklimonda|test> be serious for once ;)
[23:17] <kklimonda|test> brb
[23:18] <penguin42> I could just copy/paste the html of the lp page and frob it - still I really shouldn't need to
[23:19] <BUGabundo> penguin42: make a web service that does that for you !
[23:20]  * penguin42 has got them now - still, it should be an easy fix for the launchpad guys
[23:20] <BUGabundo> penguin42: wrong # eheh try #launchpad
[23:21] <bencrisford> is there a shell command to llist lines in a file?
[23:21] <penguin42> list?
[23:21] <bencrisford> as in no. of lines
[23:21] <penguin42> wc -l
[23:21] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: wc -l
[23:21] <bencrisford> ok ty :)
[23:21] <BUGabundo> darn you were faster !!!
[23:22] <penguin42> BUGabundo: It looks like that gtk/gail bug I was talking about before has been spotted by a few other people - but in different apps; I suspect but don't know that it is this one #391398
[23:24] <BUGabundo> bug 391398
[23:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 391398 in gtk+2.0 "Applications segfault with gtk+ version 2.17.2 when selecting listbox values" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391398
[23:25] <penguin42> I'm not sure it's actually the same bug but it sounds suspicous
[23:29] <kklimonda> let's see how it works though bnc..
[23:29] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:30] <BUGabundo> !ping | kklimonda
[23:30] <ubot4> kklimonda: ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[23:34] <kklimonda> nice, I can now use both xchat and irssi at the same time :)
[23:34] <BUGabundo> ahah
[23:34] <BUGabundo> !ping | kklimonda
[23:34] <ubot4> kklimonda: ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[23:35] <penguin42> how many irc clients do you need?
[23:35] <kklimonda> penguin42: I use irssi as a proxy
[23:35] <penguin42> why?
[23:35] <kklimonda> because of some bizarre problems I get when using xchat to connect to freenode
[23:36] <penguin42> odd, I use ksirc (probably the last person using it...)
[23:36] <kklimonda> basically I get lags from hell - up to 12 minutes
[23:36] <penguin42> I've never seen that on freenode, I saw that on dal.net for a couple of weeks and then it got fixed - I assume one bad server
[23:40] <kklimonda> penguin42: I was having this issue since I've moved to xchat, only on freenode and only with xchat (I've been testing today connected to the same server via xchat and irssi from my pc)
[23:57] <xteejx> Hi guys, quick question, is there an apport hook for hal in Jaunty, all i can see on the wiki is source_hal-cups-utils.py for printing debugging
[23:58] <kklimonda> xteejx: I don't think so
[23:59] <xteejx> :( shame - oh well no worries, thanks kklimonda :)