[00:07] <cjwatson> nhandler: err, that's odd, I thought I updated it days ago
[00:08] <cjwatson> nhandler: I don't know what was wrong, but it's fixed now. Thanks.
[00:10] <nhandler> No, thank you cjwatson for updating it ;)
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[04:59]  * ebroder is sad that dput ppa:broder/ppa doesn't work on Hardy
[05:01] <ebroder> Oh, is it just config? I guess I can go grab the config from a current version
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[07:25] <pkt> ca-certificates-java is FTBS because COMODO's cert wants to use a non-existant algorithm
[07:26] <pkt> I guess I can just remove COMODO's certificates from ca-certificates locally to get things to work
[07:27] <pkt> breaking the whole java stack just for a stupid certificate seems a little insane
[07:31] <tgpraveen> orange
[07:31] <tgpraveen> brown
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[11:07] <BUGabundo> guud morning everyone
[11:47] <BUGabundo> pitti: ping. around ?
[11:47] <BUGabundo> $ apport-cli -c susres.2009-06-24_14\:39\:24.683568.crash
[11:47] <BUGabundo> *** Error: Invalid problem report
[11:47] <BUGabundo> You are not allowed to access this problem report.
[11:47] <BUGabundo> let me guess, I need to sudo it ?
[11:47] <geser> BUGabundo: check the permissions and try sudo if needed
[11:47] <BUGabundo> its root
[11:47] <BUGabundo> should I _sudo_ apport??
[11:48] <geser> probably
[11:48] <BUGabundo> won't it open Firefox as root ??
[11:48] <BUGabundo> I don't trust FF that much :)
[11:48] <BUGabundo> better chown the .crash
[11:48] <BUGabundo> ehe
[11:48] <BUGabundo> and file a bug on apport to learn to deal with those corner cases
[11:48] <geser> BUGabundo: you can do that too (if you trust your own user :)
[11:49] <BUGabundo> ahahaah
[11:49] <BUGabundo> at least it can't/shouldn't harm my system
[11:49] <tgpraveen> BUGabundo: do u know what MIR means i have heard in the ubuntu-devel
[11:50] <tgpraveen> room
[11:50] <tgpraveen> searching for it didnt help much
[11:50] <geser> !mir
[11:50] <ubottu> mir is Main Inclusion Report - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess for more information.
[11:50] <geser> tgpraveen: ^^
[11:50] <tgpraveen> thx
[11:50] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: next time, try the bot :P
[11:51] <BUGabundo> geser: are all of this "late resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" bugs dupes?
[11:54] <geser> I don't know, didn't hear about this till now
[11:55] <BUGabundo> I see a bunch of them on LP
[11:55] <BUGabundo> better file separedly since its Kernel
[11:56] <BUGabundo> you know how the kernel team likes them separated so they can trigger HW bugs
[11:58] <BUGabundo> geser: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/392866
[11:58] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 392866 in linux "late resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" [Undecided,New]
[11:59] <BUGabundo> geser: : " hibernate failing (presumably due to space" ahhh that's me!!!
[12:18] <miik> why karmic have only bash 3.2, not bash 4?
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[12:42] <Vantrax> when was 4 released as stable?
[12:48] <pkt> vantrax: it's been at least a month iirc
[12:48] <pkt> but debian doesn't use bash 4
[12:48] <pkt> (as stable) so ubuntu probably won't either
[12:49] <Vantrax> doesnt mean ubuntu wont, makes it less likely tho
[12:52] <pkt> I think it does. Diverging from debian in such a core package could be pretty bad
[13:00] <directhex> it won't happen for karmic
[13:01] <directhex> decisions as to the core stack are made early in the release cycle
[13:01] <directhex> and bash is too core to be easily changed without spending AGES on regression testing
[13:17] <miik> then someoen should make a bash4 ppa
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[17:05] <pecisk> hi people, is it itentional that daily livecds are not built yet for karmic or there is some problems with it?
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[17:28] <Sarvatt> anyone else having problems with gnome-power-manager not working right since the devicekit-power update yesterday?
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[20:49] <bucky> will openvz packages be available in jaunty someday?
[20:49] <bucky> specifically the kernel patch
[20:51] <hyperair> what's openvz?
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[20:57] <bucky> hyperair: virtualization
[20:58] <hyperair> ah i see
[20:58] <hyperair> well it won't enter jaunty, definitely
[20:58] <hyperair> jaunty's been released, and is closed to new packages, so only security/serious bugfixes can get in
[20:58] <bucky> ic
[20:59] <hyperair> if you want the packages to enter the upcoming release, then package them =) and if you want the kernel patches in, poke the ubutnu-kernel team and see
[21:00]  * hyperair is off to test his freshly compiled kernel
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[22:35] <slangasek> hmmmm, reproducible crash in firefox when I try to browse to attach a file to a bug report
[22:36] <chrisccoulson> hi slangasek - it seems that bug 299328 is already resolved in karmic. would you mind adding a jaunty task to it if you want me to fix it as a SRU?
[22:36] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 299328 in hwinfo "libhd15 wrongly claims to Provide libhd14" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/299328
[22:37] <slangasek> chrisccoulson: I'm not worried about it for SRU, since apparently this library has had this kind of problem for some time - I just happened to be reviewing my reported bugs list and saw it :)
[22:38] <chrisccoulson> no problem. i saw it'd already been reported and fixed in debian, and that version was recently sync'd in karmic
[22:39] <slangasek> cool
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[23:23] <chrisccoulson> slangasek - just looking at your comments on bug 390504. i've implemented your first point now (the dialog has a checkbox to disable the notifications), but I'm not sure if your second point is that easy to implement
[23:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 390504 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon should keep its opinions about my disk management to itself" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390504
[23:24] <slangasek> chrisccoulson: probably not as easy, no; if the first point is done, I guess the second is much less of an issue, though :)
[23:24] <slangasek> (that reduces it from "an unlimited number of dialogs I should never see" to "one dialog I should never see")
[23:24] <chrisccoulson> yeah, hopefully. i need to try and get this patch accepted upstream now