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yofelis it just me or is ftp upload to ppa broken? ([Errno 111] Connection refused)03:40
mwhudsonyofel: it's probably broken03:45
days_of_ruinUploading to ppa (via ftp to ppa.launchpad.net):04:53
days_of_ruinConnection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused04:53
renpytomCan anyone here help me with setting up translations for my project?04:54
wgrantdays_of_ruin: Indeed, something is broken. Everybody who can fix it should be asleep at the moment, so you might have to wait a couple of hours.04:56
wgrantrenpytom: Have you had a look at https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject?04:56
renpytomYes.04:57
renpytomI think I have successfully uploaded a translation template.04:57
Picia/2204:57
renpytomBut I don't seem to be able to create a translation of it.04:57
wgrantI've very little experience with Launchpad Translations, I'm afraid. You might have to poke around help.launchpad.net, or hope that somebody more knowledgable comes along.04:58
* wgrant disappears for lunch.04:59
renpytomAh, figured it out. You can't translate into American English.05:09
wgrantcprov: Morning. Can you fix germanium?06:25
wgrantkfogel: Thanks for clarifying the open sourcing date changes.07:38
kfogelwgrant: you're welcome.  It was partly your asking that prompted that.07:40
deitarionHow do I fix the series timeline on https://launchpad.net/unball so that the 0.2-legacy branch descends from the 0.2.10 release rather than trunk's starting point?07:56
wgrantdeitarion: You can't. While the timelines will be changing soon in a way that might make that irrelevant, I don't think you're using the Launchpad series functionality how it was intended.07:59
deitarion?08:00
wgrantdeitarion: See https://launchpad.net/bzr for what I think is a pretty good model.08:00
wgrantAll the 1.16.x releases are on the 1.16 series.08:00
deitarionAhh. One sec while I wait for Firefox to run crash recovery and then I'll see about reorganizing it that way.08:01
wgrantLots of different projects use series very differently. I'm not sure anybody knows which is the perfect way.08:01
deitarion(It seems reasonable to me. 0.1 was back when I was just forking a kde-look script. 0.2 was when it was all-new code. 0.3 (soon to be pushed) is the Python rewrite to add proper robustness, flexibility, and portability)08:02
wgrantRight. It also makes sense with regard to Launchpad's bug targetting features. I can target a bug in my project to the 0.2 series, to say that it should be fixed in 0.2.x at some point.08:03
wgrantif you have all your normal releases on trunk, you can't really do that.08:03
deitarionAll things considered, I suspect I'll end up releasing on trunk as usual (I'm a "develop with unit tests, keep trunk stable" kind of guy) and then re-locating everything to a new branch every time I bump the minor version number.08:06
deitarion...assuming I don't just move to GitHub. I'm getting more and more disillusioned with bzr's "flexibility over convenience" approach to branching.08:08
wgrantWhat don't you like about bzr's model?08:08
deitarionOh, I also have grown very fond of git's semantics for the commit command.08:09
wgrantWhich bit? That it will only commit what's in the index or whatever they call it today?08:09
deitarionwgrant: Yeah. I tend to work on several ideas at once and then have to cherry-pick what to commit. Git's commit is the most comfortable way I've found for that so far.08:10
wgrantdeitarion: I much prefer bzr shelve + commit to git's model.08:11
deitarionDifferent strokes for different folks.08:11
wgrantYep.08:11
wgrantWhat is your problem with bzr's branches?08:12
deitarionPartly, last I checked, it seemed the only option was folder-based branching and it took extra work (And extra folder tree depth) to share a repo between several branches.08:12
deitarion(I run nightly incremental backups of my home directory, so I try to be space-efficient about the folders not on the exclude list)08:13
wgrantShared repos are easy to set up, and it's possible to do away with the extra directory level. But I don't see a problem with the extra level, as I normally keep a project's branches together anyway.08:14
deitarionwgrant: The extra level is surprisingly annoying to me.08:14
deitarionI suppose my problem with bzr as compared to git can be summed up in my favorite quote by Michaelangelo: Trifles make perfection and perfection is not trifle08:15
deitarionA lot of little things that, together, drive me nuts.08:16
deitarion(The only things I haven't switched to git already are the two projects hosted on launchpad)08:16
wgrantIt's quite possible to set up a08:17
wgrantGah.08:17
wgrant... to set up a git-like repo that has multiple branches with a single working copy. But it's slightly awkward.08:17
deitarionI know. That's what I did with every one of my bzr projects.08:18
deitarion"slightly" is too much.08:18
wgrantIt would be nice if both were supported equally. I prefer branch-per-directory to git's model.08:19
deitarionI'm the kind of perfectionist, convenience-obsessed guy who'd be a diehard mac-head if I weren't also bordering on RMS-level FOSS obsession.08:19
deitarion(I'm more a UI designer who knows how to program and happens to be obsessed with unit tests than a traditional programmer)08:21
deitarionNow that I've finally got something which work for keeping my distraction-based procrastination at bay, I'm hard at work polishing up and completing all my unfinished convenience tools. ( http://ssokolow.github.com/timeclock/ in case you're curious. I haven't made a release tarball yet because I'm still working on the icon. )08:22
deitarions/which work /which works /08:22
goshawkhi, i receive this error when i try to upload to ppa08:52
goshawkConnection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused08:52
goshawkand i'm sure it worked before08:52
goshawkdoes anyone know why?08:52
wgrantgoshawk: Something's broken on the server.08:58
goshawkok08:58
kub1bHelp with a gpg error when trying to apt-get the KUbuntu bugfixes for 4.2.4, via apt-get, after addig the launchpad line in apt sources.list - thanks.  I get this gpg error - Ive never had to add gpg keys before - how do i get this sig verified? :09:15
kub1bGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems09:15
wgrantkub1b: You'll see a link labeled "Read about installing" on the PPA page. Down the bottom of that, there are instructions.09:22
kub1bwgrant: what page has that link you refer to?09:27
wgrantkub1b: One with a URL of the form https://launchpad.net/~<username>/+archive/<ppaname>09:28
wgrantkub1b: What was the URL you put in your sources.list?09:28
kub1bwgrant: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main  , from the page:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.409:36
kub1bwgrant: what does that indicate to you, that I should do?09:37
wgrantkub1b: Go to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa09:37
wgrantkub1b: There you will find the link.09:38
kub1bwgrant: thanks09:38
wgrant(there's a bug filed that the ppa.launchpad.net page should link to the launchpad.net page)09:38
kub1bwgrant:  when i go to that page i get this error in firefox:  n error occurred during a connection to launchpad.net.  SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length.  (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)09:39
wgrantkub1b: Sounds like Firefox is being stupid... tried refreshing?09:39
kub1bwgrant:  The page you are trying to view can not be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.      * Please contact the web site owners to inform them of this problem.09:39
kub1bwgrant: same err after both refreshing & ¨try again¨ in firefox.09:40
wgrantkub1b: Did you go to the exact URL I specified?09:40
kub1bwgrant: yes09:40
kub1bhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa09:41
kub1bwgrant: er, i thing:  i´m connecting throught a cell phone wireless connection,09:42
wgrantkub1b: Firefox is indicating that you're not speaking to an SSL server, but Launchpad is certainly fine.09:42
wgrantkub1b: Can you just go to https://launchpad.net/?09:42
kub1bmetropcs, Iǘe used this for years, but maybe on this new box, with a fresh kubuntu 904 for amd 64, perhaps i don have some ssh firefox thing needed installed yet?09:43
wgrantNo, no, SSL has been core to web browsers for more than a decade now.09:43
wgrantI wonder if your connection is dodgy.09:43
kub1bgoint to that url gets the same error.09:44
kub1bi know the isp has a firewall,09:44
kub1bbut i do know iǘe gotten to secure pages (https)  on my other computer before.09:44
wgrantCan you go to some other HTTPS site?09:44
kub1bsuggest one, please, & Iĺl try09:45
Nafallokub1b: https://wiki.ubuntu.com09:46
kub1bwgrant:   Iḿ pulling up this page fine:  https://www.bankofamerica.com/Control.do?page=corp_bofacom09:46
wgrantkub1b: How about https://edge.launchpad.net/?09:46
kub1bhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ is coming up fine too09:46
kub1bhttps://edge.launchpad.net/? is also coming in fine09:47
kub1bwgrant: thoughts?09:47
wgrantkub1b: OK. That's really really strange. But go to https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa09:48
wgrantI'd try restarting Firefox, if that doesn't work.09:48
kub1bwgrant: are yo a sysadmin for launchpad, or a mere user?,09:48
kub1bie, do you have ability to fix stuff on the launchpad server?09:48
wgrantkub1b: I'm just a user.09:49
kub1bhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa  works09:49
wgrantI'm pretty sure that Launchpad isn't broken.09:49
wgrantAs I can use it fine.09:49
wgrantkub1b: OK. Follow the instructions. Then maybe restart Firefox and see if launchpad.net works.09:49
kub1bwgrant: er, follow _which_ instructions? the one at the https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa  ?  Iǘe already added the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main  line to sources.list.  Iḿ getting an error from apt-get dist-upgrade about unable to verify the gpg key for packages from there.09:52
kub1bwgrant: thoughts?09:52
kub1bNafallo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com works fine.  thoughts?09:54
wgrantkub1b: Sorry, on a very laggy connection here. You'll see a link labeled "Read about installing".09:55
wgrantThat has a section on adding the key.09:55
kub1bwgrant: thanks, Iḿ tryig to pull that link up now. :)09:56
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goshawkwgrant: do you know if someone is working on the ppa upload problem?10:48
cprovwgrant: poppy restarted.11:15
wgrantcprov: Thanks.11:15
wgrantgoshawk: Should work now.11:15
goshawknope11:16
goshawksame error11:16
goshawkConnection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused11:16
wgrantIndeed. cprov?11:16
cprovwgrant: same here too.11:17
wgrantcprov: But poppy's running?11:22
cprovwgrant: no, it's not.11:23
wgrantAh, good.11:23
wgrantOtherwise I would be scared.11:23
ajmitchwgrant: why would that be scary?11:23
wgrantajmitch: Worse to have a daemon running but broken like that than not running at all, I think...11:24
ajmitchWorrying, but probably not scary11:24
ajmitchScary would be if it was working without any daemon running11:25
goshawkahhahah11:25
wgrantajmitch: True.11:25
cprovwgrant: try now please.11:34
goshawkworks11:35
goshawkwell done :)11:35
goshawkthanks cprov11:35
wgrantIndeed. Thanks cprov.11:35
goshawkthanks welterde11:35
goshawkthanks wgrant11:35
goshawkcprov: can we know what was the problem or is it too long to tell?11:35
yofelthanks cprov :)11:36
cprovgoshawk: it starts with a recurrent problem related with the server using asyncore (causing it to die from time to time)11:36
goshawkoki11:37
goshawkthx11:37
HamarynsHi all12:14
HamarynsI recently migrated my project to LP, thanks to all that helped.12:14
HamarynsNow I want to upload the code for the website as well.  Is there a standard way to do this, or should I just create a new branch, or maybe subfolder in the trunk?12:15
wgrantHamaryns: I wouldn't put it in trunk. I've just created a separate branch in the past.12:16
Hamarynsok, so it’s sort of: do as you like with what’s there, there is no separate functionality for this12:16
wgrantRight.12:17
wgrantThere's no good way to do it.12:17
Hamarynslol12:26
Hamarynsbut then, there’s probably no bad way either :-)12:26
HamarynsIf you look around, you see that a lot of projects have it as some subdirectory of their main repository.12:27
HamarynsE.g. in the Jakarta projects12:27
Hamarynsfine, thanks12:27
wgrantThat's not a good idea.12:27
wgrantIt's not part of your project, so why is it there?12:28
Hamarynsit is part of the project, isn’t it?  You could call it a subproject12:28
HamarynsBut you’re right, a separate branch makes more sense and that’s what I’ll do12:28
wgrantMy users don't need it.12:28
Hamarynsright12:28
ajmitchare appservers going down again?12:56
ajmitcheither that or I'm just unlucky & hit a temporary problem12:56
cyberixaeLaunchpad front page shows brown boxes for featured projects, instead of their logos.13:45
cyberixaeIs there a bug thread for this issue?13:45
yofelany idea when the i386 ppa build machines muntries and samarium will get reset? the builds take quite a while with only 2 working machines (They only show: Error accessing Librarian: <urlopen error (111, 'Connection refused')> , just like promethium for amd64)14:54
dnjlwhats wrong with launchpad? I can't access my PPA's!14:58
dnjlprob is gone :)15:01
dnjltnx15:01
opophai, launchpad told me to come here and tell you it is broken.15:14
NielsEany estimates when launchpad will be up again?15:26
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opopis back up, i just checked!15:27
SchumbiHello15:28
opopand back down15:29
SchumbiLaunchpad is overloaded here in Jena/Germany at the moment?15:29
opopis worldwide, apparently15:30
Schumbiah well than ...15:30
Schumbior not well15:30
NielsEsometime's you'll get trough, its just very very slow15:30
Schumbibut a bit confusing, one try it loads at normal speed and the next it doesn't work15:32
u-fokaHy there!15:37
u-fokadoes launchpad dead?15:37
yofelu-foka: try reloading it a few times then you'll maybe get the page to load. But yes, it's broken15:39
u-fokafine, thanks!15:39
u-fokafrom four reloads i got my page once, and the message three times, in about ten minutes15:40
jithinehi anyone facing issue with launchpad ?15:41
jithinei cannot connect to it15:42
jithineit gives Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.15:42
Schumbijithine: like most of us15:42
Schumbibut sometimes it seems to work15:42
jithineSchumbi:  ok. I have been trying for almost an hour. Guess they need to upgrade hardware15:43
cprovyofel: let' s see what I can do about the PPA buildds, one sec.15:45
stefanlsdDoes anyone know whats up with staging?15:51
cprovstefanlsd: probably the same problem affecting edge.l.n15:51
stefanlsdcprov: oh ok. thanks :) didnt realise there was a bigger problem also15:52
c_kornwhen will lp be up again?16:01
cprovc_korn: asap.16:02
c_kornok16:03
__elgato90__hi, i'm trying to access https://shipit.kubuntu.org/, but i can't16:04
__elgato90__there it says to contact you here16:04
cprov__elgato90__: we are working on it.16:10
* BUGabundo checks topic before making the same question16:10
BUGabundoeheh16:10
BUGabundocprov: hey. so you know! ahah not on topic?16:11
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BUGabundoahahaa16:11
BUGabundodon't do it just because I ask :)16:11
cprovBUGabundo: ;)16:11
BUGabundocprov: http://identi.ca/notice/583055516:12
cprovBUGabundo: cool, thanks.16:13
BUGabundonp16:13
BUGabundosaw a few users asking16:14
BUGabundocprov: http://identi.ca/conversation/1418665#notice-583058716:14
BUGabundohttp://identi.ca/tag/launchpad16:16
__elgato90__cprov: thank you very much16:16
__elgato90__i'll try later then16:16
BUGabundoat least known for 1 h16:16
dvz-is it just me or is lp server down?16:26
BUGabundoyes16:27
BUGabundoknown16:27
BUGabundodvz-: see /topic16:27
dvz-ah, woops, the top of my screen>irssi was covered by gnome-panel16:28
dvz-thanks BUGabundo16:28
BUGabundoaahha16:29
cprovyofel: PPA builders rescued and building.16:41
hkaishello16:42
hkaismaybe it is already reported but, launchpad is down16:42
yofelcprov: thanks a lot!16:42
yofelhkais: see topic - is known16:42
BUGabundoeheh16:42
hkaisoups, sorry16:43
BUGabundodon't you guys love when something goes down? everyone all of the sudden remembers you of it!16:43
yofelXD16:43
Schumbitopics are a great thing ;-) but it seems that this one is too small16:43
hkaisSchumbi: repeat, repeat, repeat16:44
MTecknologySorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.16:44
MTecknology:(16:44
hkaisis the cause of the downtime already found?16:44
MTecknologycprov: fixitfixitfixitfixitfixit16:46
cprovhkais: not yet, I will inform you guys about news in this area.16:46
nekro_code.lp down? can't get to it from US west coast.16:48
Schumbinekro_: topic :-)16:48
nekro_woops. sorry :) guess I'll go for my morning bike ride16:49
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MTecknologycprov: I don't really like waiting. Could you maybe change the life-script to have $lp_downtime_20090628 = '?min' to something closer to '5sec' ?16:50
MTecknology:P16:50
cproveither that or `rm -f MTecknology` <wink>16:51
MTecknologycprov: I'm stuck into too many places, you're need to recurse me... but sad either way16:52
cprovMTecknology: I'm sorry, it was supposed to be funny, but I failed. Let me try to help IS guys and get it fixed asap.16:53
MTecknologycprov: don't worry, I laughed16:53
MTecknologythanks fopr reminding me though, I need to bug dholbach16:54
MTecknologynot online -_-16:54
MTecknologycprov: when is the 3.0 release planned?16:55
MTecknologyIT'S BACK!!!16:56
cprovMTecknology: July after 2.2.7, I don't remember the dates precisely (IIRC there is an message in lp-users@)16:56
harsThe launchpad website tells me to tell you that "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server." persists.16:57
sianishars: topic16:58
MTecknologyit's back for what I'm doing16:58
BUGabundoMattJ: down... some parts coming up now16:59
SchumbiMTecknology: temporary ;-)16:59
MattJedge works, I'm happy :)16:59
BUGabundoMattJ: edge is devel version !17:00
MattJSo? :)17:01
BUGabundoMattJ: be happy, smile!17:03
InverseI'm getting an error when connecting to launchpad, "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode. " anyone else have this issue?17:03
MattJI am!17:03
BUGabundoInverse: /topic17:03
InverseBUGabundo: ok, I fail17:03
Inverseat chcking topics17:03
twistedhi guys is launchpad down?17:10
BUGabundotwisted: /topic17:10
twisted:) thank you17:10
ircleuserimagine thousands of people hitting the reload button, over and over and over ... ;-)17:11
sianisedge is up in Hungary!17:11
twistedi did that also ircleuser refreshed like 20 times thought it was on my end.17:12
Schumbiircleuser: ;-)17:12
BUGabundoeheh17:13
twistedlaunchpads back up17:20
twistedthanks guys17:20
paykoobthanks!17:21
twistedyep17:21
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MTecknologycprov: what was the issue?17:22
cprovyes, it's officially back17:22
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cprovMTecknology: IS team is still working on the facts17:22
MTecknologycprov: extra spaces in there17:23
cprovMTecknology: thanks.17:23
MTecknologyI'm excited to head what happened17:24
MTecknologyhear*17:25
Schumbithanks :-) it really works :-)17:25
Schumbinice work :-) bye17:30
AskHL_Hi.  How do I add files (such as a complete source .tar.gz, preferably created in some semi-automatic way) to my project's launchpad downloads page?  (And, if I should RTFM, which FM should I R?)17:32
InverseAskHL_: his one: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/1918817:36
AskHL_Thank you, Inverse17:37
cprovAskHL_: you can check the possibilities with https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#project_release17:38
InverseAfter starting with launchpad, I'm beginning to love bzr and scorn svn17:38
vadi2Hi. Where can I find the "project release series"?17:45
vadi2https://launchpad.net/project/+series doesn't seem to be it17:45
vadi2want to setup the translations import and cannot find anything anywhere for the last half hour. I think I've visited every possible page now17:48
cprovvadi2: the was a launchpad outage 2 hours ago, but it's all fixed now. Which project are you looking for ? (certainly not the one called 'project')18:04
cprovvadi2: https://edge.launchpad.net/awn/+series, for instance.18:04
vadi2I'd like to enable automatic imports of translation templates and translations for the giftwrap trunk.18:04
cprovvadi2: I'm not sure I can help, do you see anything that might help on https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/giftwrap/trunk ?18:07
vadi2ah, thanks. I was looking around the code part18:07
cprovalso https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/ImportingFromBazaarBranches18:08
vadi2thanks, seems that one link did it all.18:13
vadi2Was just rather hard to get to to begin with :)18:13
MTecknologycprov: you're not help contact now? you should be :)18:15
MTecknologyI demand it18:15
cprovMTecknology: :)18:16
MTecknologycprov: sorry if I'm just being stupid now, I'll blame it on the tired, it's already the afternoon18:16
cprovit's Sunday and we are *here* ... we are probably forgiven of anything.18:18
MTecknologycprov: I got up 2100, went to work 0130, it's 1222 now :)18:22
anderskIs it known that CVE reference links are misformatted?  (For example, on bug 393100, the icon for 2009-2108 appears once in the left margin of the page and once overlapping the 2009.)19:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 393100 in git-core "Sync git-core 1:1.6.3.3-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39310019:05
beunoandersk, no. Could you file a bug and slap a "css-sprites" tag on it?  :)19:07
anderskOkay, bug 39318619:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 393186 in launchpad "CVE reference links are misformatted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39318619:10
beunoandersk, thank you19:19
days_of_ruinIs launchpad supposed to auto-linkify urls posted in a project summary? Because right now its not working for me -_-20:22
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