=== neversfelde is now known as chmangold === chmangold is now known as neversfelde === yofel_ is now known as yofel [03:40] is it just me or is ftp upload to ppa broken? ([Errno 111] Connection refused) [03:45] yofel: it's probably broken [04:53] Uploading to ppa (via ftp to ppa.launchpad.net): [04:53] Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused [04:54] Can anyone here help me with setting up translations for my project? [04:56] days_of_ruin: Indeed, something is broken. Everybody who can fix it should be asleep at the moment, so you might have to wait a couple of hours. [04:56] renpytom: Have you had a look at https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject? [04:57] Yes. [04:57] I think I have successfully uploaded a translation template. [04:57] a/22 [04:57] But I don't seem to be able to create a translation of it. [04:58] I've very little experience with Launchpad Translations, I'm afraid. You might have to poke around help.launchpad.net, or hope that somebody more knowledgable comes along. [04:59] * wgrant disappears for lunch. [05:09] Ah, figured it out. You can't translate into American English. [06:25] cprov: Morning. Can you fix germanium? [07:38] kfogel: Thanks for clarifying the open sourcing date changes. [07:40] wgrant: you're welcome. It was partly your asking that prompted that. [07:56] How do I fix the series timeline on https://launchpad.net/unball so that the 0.2-legacy branch descends from the 0.2.10 release rather than trunk's starting point? [07:59] deitarion: You can't. While the timelines will be changing soon in a way that might make that irrelevant, I don't think you're using the Launchpad series functionality how it was intended. [08:00] ? [08:00] deitarion: See https://launchpad.net/bzr for what I think is a pretty good model. [08:00] All the 1.16.x releases are on the 1.16 series. [08:01] Ahh. One sec while I wait for Firefox to run crash recovery and then I'll see about reorganizing it that way. [08:01] Lots of different projects use series very differently. I'm not sure anybody knows which is the perfect way. [08:02] (It seems reasonable to me. 0.1 was back when I was just forking a kde-look script. 0.2 was when it was all-new code. 0.3 (soon to be pushed) is the Python rewrite to add proper robustness, flexibility, and portability) [08:03] Right. It also makes sense with regard to Launchpad's bug targetting features. I can target a bug in my project to the 0.2 series, to say that it should be fixed in 0.2.x at some point. [08:03] if you have all your normal releases on trunk, you can't really do that. [08:06] All things considered, I suspect I'll end up releasing on trunk as usual (I'm a "develop with unit tests, keep trunk stable" kind of guy) and then re-locating everything to a new branch every time I bump the minor version number. [08:08] ...assuming I don't just move to GitHub. I'm getting more and more disillusioned with bzr's "flexibility over convenience" approach to branching. [08:08] What don't you like about bzr's model? [08:09] Oh, I also have grown very fond of git's semantics for the commit command. [08:09] Which bit? That it will only commit what's in the index or whatever they call it today? [08:10] wgrant: Yeah. I tend to work on several ideas at once and then have to cherry-pick what to commit. Git's commit is the most comfortable way I've found for that so far. [08:11] deitarion: I much prefer bzr shelve + commit to git's model. [08:11] Different strokes for different folks. [08:11] Yep. [08:12] What is your problem with bzr's branches? [08:12] Partly, last I checked, it seemed the only option was folder-based branching and it took extra work (And extra folder tree depth) to share a repo between several branches. [08:13] (I run nightly incremental backups of my home directory, so I try to be space-efficient about the folders not on the exclude list) [08:14] Shared repos are easy to set up, and it's possible to do away with the extra directory level. But I don't see a problem with the extra level, as I normally keep a project's branches together anyway. [08:14] wgrant: The extra level is surprisingly annoying to me. [08:15] I suppose my problem with bzr as compared to git can be summed up in my favorite quote by Michaelangelo: Trifles make perfection and perfection is not trifle [08:16] A lot of little things that, together, drive me nuts. [08:16] (The only things I haven't switched to git already are the two projects hosted on launchpad) [08:17] It's quite possible to set up a [08:17] Gah. [08:17] ... to set up a git-like repo that has multiple branches with a single working copy. But it's slightly awkward. [08:18] I know. That's what I did with every one of my bzr projects. [08:18] "slightly" is too much. [08:19] It would be nice if both were supported equally. I prefer branch-per-directory to git's model. [08:19] I'm the kind of perfectionist, convenience-obsessed guy who'd be a diehard mac-head if I weren't also bordering on RMS-level FOSS obsession. [08:21] (I'm more a UI designer who knows how to program and happens to be obsessed with unit tests than a traditional programmer) [08:22] Now that I've finally got something which work for keeping my distraction-based procrastination at bay, I'm hard at work polishing up and completing all my unfinished convenience tools. ( http://ssokolow.github.com/timeclock/ in case you're curious. I haven't made a release tarball yet because I'm still working on the icon. ) [08:22] s/which work /which works / [08:52] hi, i receive this error when i try to upload to ppa [08:52] Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused [08:52] and i'm sure it worked before [08:52] does anyone know why? [08:58] goshawk: Something's broken on the server. [08:58] ok [09:15] Help with a gpg error when trying to apt-get the KUbuntu bugfixes for 4.2.4, via apt-get, after addig the launchpad line in apt sources.list - thanks. I get this gpg error - Ive never had to add gpg keys before - how do i get this sig verified? : [09:15] GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [09:22] kub1b: You'll see a link labeled "Read about installing" on the PPA page. Down the bottom of that, there are instructions. [09:27] wgrant: what page has that link you refer to? [09:28] kub1b: One with a URL of the form https://launchpad.net/~/+archive/ [09:28] kub1b: What was the URL you put in your sources.list? [09:36] wgrant: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main , from the page: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.4 [09:37] wgrant: what does that indicate to you, that I should do? [09:37] kub1b: Go to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa [09:38] kub1b: There you will find the link. [09:38] wgrant: thanks [09:38] (there's a bug filed that the ppa.launchpad.net page should link to the launchpad.net page) [09:39] wgrant: when i go to that page i get this error in firefox: n error occurred during a connection to launchpad.net. SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long) [09:39] kub1b: Sounds like Firefox is being stupid... tried refreshing? [09:39] wgrant: The page you are trying to view can not be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. * Please contact the web site owners to inform them of this problem. [09:40] wgrant: same err after both refreshing & ¨try again¨ in firefox. [09:40] kub1b: Did you go to the exact URL I specified? [09:40] wgrant: yes [09:41] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa [09:42] wgrant: er, i thing: i´m connecting throught a cell phone wireless connection, [09:42] kub1b: Firefox is indicating that you're not speaking to an SSL server, but Launchpad is certainly fine. [09:42] kub1b: Can you just go to https://launchpad.net/? [09:43] metropcs, Iǘe used this for years, but maybe on this new box, with a fresh kubuntu 904 for amd 64, perhaps i don have some ssh firefox thing needed installed yet? [09:43] No, no, SSL has been core to web browsers for more than a decade now. [09:43] I wonder if your connection is dodgy. [09:44] goint to that url gets the same error. [09:44] i know the isp has a firewall, [09:44] but i do know iǘe gotten to secure pages (https) on my other computer before. [09:44] Can you go to some other HTTPS site? [09:45] suggest one, please, & Iĺl try [09:46] kub1b: https://wiki.ubuntu.com [09:46] wgrant: Iḿ pulling up this page fine: https://www.bankofamerica.com/Control.do?page=corp_bofacom [09:46] kub1b: How about https://edge.launchpad.net/? [09:46] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ is coming up fine too [09:47] https://edge.launchpad.net/? is also coming in fine [09:47] wgrant: thoughts? [09:48] kub1b: OK. That's really really strange. But go to https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa [09:48] I'd try restarting Firefox, if that doesn't work. [09:48] wgrant: are yo a sysadmin for launchpad, or a mere user?, [09:48] ie, do you have ability to fix stuff on the launchpad server? [09:49] kub1b: I'm just a user. [09:49] https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa works [09:49] I'm pretty sure that Launchpad isn't broken. [09:49] As I can use it fine. [09:49] kub1b: OK. Follow the instructions. Then maybe restart Firefox and see if launchpad.net works. [09:52] wgrant: er, follow _which_ instructions? the one at the https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa ? Iǘe already added the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main line to sources.list. Iḿ getting an error from apt-get dist-upgrade about unable to verify the gpg key for packages from there. [09:52] wgrant: thoughts? [09:54] Nafallo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com works fine. thoughts? [09:55] kub1b: Sorry, on a very laggy connection here. You'll see a link labeled "Read about installing". [09:55] That has a section on adding the key. [09:56] wgrant: thanks, Iḿ tryig to pull that link up now. :) === hubuntu is now known as huayra [10:48] wgrant: do you know if someone is working on the ppa upload problem? [11:15] wgrant: poppy restarted. [11:15] cprov: Thanks. [11:15] goshawk: Should work now. [11:16] nope [11:16] same error [11:16] Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused [11:16] Indeed. cprov? [11:17] wgrant: same here too. [11:22] cprov: But poppy's running? [11:23] wgrant: no, it's not. [11:23] Ah, good. [11:23] Otherwise I would be scared. [11:23] wgrant: why would that be scary? [11:24] ajmitch: Worse to have a daemon running but broken like that than not running at all, I think... [11:24] Worrying, but probably not scary [11:25] Scary would be if it was working without any daemon running [11:25] ahhahah [11:25] ajmitch: True. [11:34] wgrant: try now please. [11:35] works [11:35] well done :) [11:35] thanks cprov [11:35] Indeed. Thanks cprov. [11:35] thanks welterde [11:35] thanks wgrant [11:35] cprov: can we know what was the problem or is it too long to tell? [11:36] thanks cprov :) [11:36] goshawk: it starts with a recurrent problem related with the server using asyncore (causing it to die from time to time) [11:37] oki [11:37] thx [12:14] Hi all [12:14] I recently migrated my project to LP, thanks to all that helped. [12:15] Now I want to upload the code for the website as well. Is there a standard way to do this, or should I just create a new branch, or maybe subfolder in the trunk? [12:16] Hamaryns: I wouldn't put it in trunk. I've just created a separate branch in the past. [12:16] ok, so it’s sort of: do as you like with what’s there, there is no separate functionality for this [12:17] Right. [12:17] There's no good way to do it. [12:26] lol [12:26] but then, there’s probably no bad way either :-) [12:27] If you look around, you see that a lot of projects have it as some subdirectory of their main repository. [12:27] E.g. in the Jakarta projects [12:27] fine, thanks [12:27] That's not a good idea. [12:28] It's not part of your project, so why is it there? [12:28] it is part of the project, isn’t it? You could call it a subproject [12:28] But you’re right, a separate branch makes more sense and that’s what I’ll do [12:28] My users don't need it. [12:28] right [12:56] are appservers going down again? [12:56] either that or I'm just unlucky & hit a temporary problem [13:45] Launchpad front page shows brown boxes for featured projects, instead of their logos. [13:45] Is there a bug thread for this issue? [14:54] any idea when the i386 ppa build machines muntries and samarium will get reset? the builds take quite a while with only 2 working machines (They only show: Error accessing Librarian: , just like promethium for amd64) [14:58] whats wrong with launchpad? I can't access my PPA's! [15:01] prob is gone :) [15:01] tnx [15:14] hai, launchpad told me to come here and tell you it is broken. [15:26] any estimates when launchpad will be up again? === lamont` is now known as lamont [15:27] is back up, i just checked! [15:28] Hello [15:29] and back down [15:29] Launchpad is overloaded here in Jena/Germany at the moment? [15:30] is worldwide, apparently [15:30] ah well than ... [15:30] or not well [15:30] sometime's you'll get trough, its just very very slow [15:32] but a bit confusing, one try it loads at normal speed and the next it doesn't work [15:37] Hy there! [15:37] does launchpad dead? [15:39] u-foka: try reloading it a few times then you'll maybe get the page to load. But yes, it's broken [15:39] fine, thanks! [15:40] from four reloads i got my page once, and the message three times, in about ten minutes [15:41] hi anyone facing issue with launchpad ? [15:42] i cannot connect to it [15:42] it gives Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. [15:42] jithine: like most of us [15:42] but sometimes it seems to work [15:43] Schumbi: ok. I have been trying for almost an hour. Guess they need to upgrade hardware [15:45] yofel: let' s see what I can do about the PPA buildds, one sec. [15:51] Does anyone know whats up with staging? [15:51] stefanlsd: probably the same problem affecting edge.l.n [15:52] cprov: oh ok. thanks :) didnt realise there was a bigger problem also [16:01] when will lp be up again? [16:02] c_korn: asap. [16:03] ok [16:04] <__elgato90__> hi, i'm trying to access https://shipit.kubuntu.org/, but i can't [16:04] <__elgato90__> there it says to contact you here [16:10] __elgato90__: we are working on it. [16:10] * BUGabundo checks topic before making the same question [16:10] eheh [16:11] cprov: hey. so you know! ahah not on topic? === cprov changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ is experiencing problems, we are working on it | Help contact: cprov | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Open Sourcing: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing [16:11] ahahaa [16:11] don't do it just because I ask :) [16:11] BUGabundo: ;) [16:12] cprov: http://identi.ca/notice/5830555 [16:13] BUGabundo: cool, thanks. [16:13] np [16:14] saw a few users asking [16:14] cprov: http://identi.ca/conversation/1418665#notice-5830587 [16:16] http://identi.ca/tag/launchpad [16:16] <__elgato90__> cprov: thank you very much [16:16] <__elgato90__> i'll try later then [16:16] at least known for 1 h [16:26] is it just me or is lp server down? [16:27] yes [16:27] known [16:27] dvz-: see /topic [16:28] ah, woops, the top of my screen>irssi was covered by gnome-panel [16:28] thanks BUGabundo [16:29] aahha [16:41] yofel: PPA builders rescued and building. [16:42] hello [16:42] maybe it is already reported but, launchpad is down [16:42] cprov: thanks a lot! [16:42] hkais: see topic - is known [16:42] eheh [16:43] oups, sorry [16:43] don't you guys love when something goes down? everyone all of the sudden remembers you of it! [16:43] XD [16:43] topics are a great thing ;-) but it seems that this one is too small [16:44] Schumbi: repeat, repeat, repeat [16:44] Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. [16:44] :( [16:44] is the cause of the downtime already found? [16:46] cprov: fixitfixitfixitfixitfixit [16:46] hkais: not yet, I will inform you guys about news in this area. [16:48] code.lp down? can't get to it from US west coast. [16:48] nekro_: topic :-) [16:49] woops. sorry :) guess I'll go for my morning bike ride === tom___ is now known as truetom [16:50] cprov: I don't really like waiting. Could you maybe change the life-script to have $lp_downtime_20090628 = '?min' to something closer to '5sec' ? [16:50] :P [16:51] either that or `rm -f MTecknology` [16:52] cprov: I'm stuck into too many places, you're need to recurse me... but sad either way [16:53] MTecknology: I'm sorry, it was supposed to be funny, but I failed. Let me try to help IS guys and get it fixed asap. [16:53] cprov: don't worry, I laughed [16:54] thanks fopr reminding me though, I need to bug dholbach [16:54] not online -_- [16:55] cprov: when is the 3.0 release planned? [16:56] IT'S BACK!!! [16:56] MTecknology: July after 2.2.7, I don't remember the dates precisely (IIRC there is an message in lp-users@) [16:57] The launchpad website tells me to tell you that "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server." persists. [16:58] hars: topic [16:58] it's back for what I'm doing [16:59] MattJ: down... some parts coming up now [16:59] MTecknology: temporary ;-) [16:59] edge works, I'm happy :) [17:00] MattJ: edge is devel version ! [17:01] So? :) [17:03] MattJ: be happy, smile! [17:03] I'm getting an error when connecting to launchpad, "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode. " anyone else have this issue? [17:03] I am! [17:03] Inverse: /topic [17:03] BUGabundo: ok, I fail [17:03] at chcking topics [17:10] hi guys is launchpad down? [17:10] twisted: /topic [17:10] :) thank you [17:11] imagine thousands of people hitting the reload button, over and over and over ... ;-) [17:11] edge is up in Hungary! [17:12] i did that also ircleuser refreshed like 20 times thought it was on my end. [17:12] ircleuser: ;-) [17:13] eheh [17:20] launchpads back up [17:20] thanks guys [17:21] thanks! [17:21] yep === cprov changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Open Sourcing: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing [17:22] cprov: what was the issue? [17:22] yes, it's officially back === MTecknology changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Open Sourcing: https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing [17:22] MTecknology: IS team is still working on the facts [17:23] cprov: extra spaces in there [17:23] MTecknology: thanks. [17:24] I'm excited to head what happened [17:25] hear* [17:25] thanks :-) it really works :-) [17:30] nice work :-) bye [17:32] Hi. How do I add files (such as a complete source .tar.gz, preferably created in some semi-automatic way) to my project's launchpad downloads page? (And, if I should RTFM, which FM should I R?) [17:36] AskHL_: his one: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/19188 [17:37] Thank you, Inverse [17:38] AskHL_: you can check the possibilities with https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#project_release [17:38] After starting with launchpad, I'm beginning to love bzr and scorn svn [17:45] Hi. Where can I find the "project release series"? [17:45] https://launchpad.net/project/+series doesn't seem to be it [17:48] want to setup the translations import and cannot find anything anywhere for the last half hour. I think I've visited every possible page now [18:04] vadi2: the was a launchpad outage 2 hours ago, but it's all fixed now. Which project are you looking for ? (certainly not the one called 'project') [18:04] vadi2: https://edge.launchpad.net/awn/+series, for instance. [18:04] I'd like to enable automatic imports of translation templates and translations for the giftwrap trunk. [18:07] vadi2: I'm not sure I can help, do you see anything that might help on https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/giftwrap/trunk ? [18:07] ah, thanks. I was looking around the code part [18:08] also https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/ImportingFromBazaarBranches [18:13] thanks, seems that one link did it all. [18:13] Was just rather hard to get to to begin with :) [18:15] cprov: you're not help contact now? you should be :) [18:15] I demand it [18:16] MTecknology: :) [18:16] cprov: sorry if I'm just being stupid now, I'll blame it on the tired, it's already the afternoon [18:18] it's Sunday and we are *here* ... we are probably forgiven of anything. [18:22] cprov: I got up 2100, went to work 0130, it's 1222 now :) [19:05] Is it known that CVE reference links are misformatted? (For example, on bug 393100, the icon for 2009-2108 appears once in the left margin of the page and once overlapping the 2009.) [19:05] Launchpad bug 393100 in git-core "Sync git-core 1:1.6.3.3-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393100 [19:07] andersk, no. Could you file a bug and slap a "css-sprites" tag on it? :) [19:10] Okay, bug 393186 [19:10] Launchpad bug 393186 in launchpad "CVE reference links are misformatted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393186 [19:19] andersk, thank you [20:22] Is launchpad supposed to auto-linkify urls posted in a project summary? Because right now its not working for me -_- === asabil_ is now known as asabil === Hellow_ is now known as Hellow === Ampelbei- is now known as Ampelbein === RAOF__ is now known as RAOF