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_MMA_macvr: Just email me the SVGs direct. I'll put 'em in now.14:28
macvr_MMA_: i'm labelling them... thats why, i havent uploaded them14:29
_MMA_Sure sure. I'm saying just to save you thr trouble of uploading them.14:29
macvrok14:29
_MMA_PNGs are fine for show if you want to.14:29
macvr_MMA_: also you might sleep well , >  I'v done them is all sizes ;p14:30
_MMA_\m/14:30
macvr_MMA_:  anything corrections you want or all is fine??14:30
_MMA_This is fine for now. We can test them in the set. See what people think. Then adjust from there.14:31
macvr_MMA_: ok... what about the notify-osd icons matching these??14:31
_MMA_Still gotta look into that but generally it sounds like a good idea.14:32
michote_MMA_: could you explain what you mean with "brown tones" in the wiki on face-monkey?14:32
macvrk...14:33
_MMA_michote: Sure. It still feels a bit orange to me. I'd rather it look like a brown monkey. :)14:33
michote_MMA_: ok, I'll try to find a less orange brown tone ;)14:34
_MMA_michote: cool14:34
_MMA_macvr: I /think/ one of the things that might get mentioned is dropping the shadows below say, 24px.14:35
_MMA_We'll see.14:35
macvr_MMA_: I tried that... but the white from the background comes through... I'v used the shadow just to minimize the white in between the curves14:37
macvr_MMA_: 16px doesnt have it14:37
_MMA_I'm talking about the drop shadow.14:37
_MMA_On the ground.14:37
macvroh ... i like that :(14:37
_MMA_Sure sure. But, it's a detail that will get lost at smaller sizes and with some themes.14:38
macvr_MMA_: i got the idea from gnome colors... it looks good with a shadow.14:38
_MMA_I'm not sayin' we nix it now. Just might be something to look at.14:38
macvr_MMA_: as you always say " we cant think of all use cases " ;p14:38
macvrdefault panel is the light grey, right?14:39
_MMA_macvr: Ok. Ill say that with *all* dark themes the detail will get lost. ;)14:39
macvr_MMA_: if you keep chatting me up , you wont get the icons quickly14:39
_MMA_I got all day. ;)14:40
macvrwell i dont! ;p14:40
macvrif i dont do it now , i'd have to do it later...14:40
_MMA_macvr: One thing I and many have learned is when to *not* respond. :)14:41
macvr_MMA_: well, i wouldnt ... just that its rare to catch hold of YOU !14:41
_MMA_No no. I'm on most nights for a few hours. (but there's a time diff there I guess) and every weekend.14:42
_MMA_You kids and all yer free time. ;)14:43
macvr^ that just makes me feel younger :)14:45
* _MMA_ will be 33 in 5 days.14:47
SiDi_MMA_: so your birthday is on 33rd of June ?14:48
* SiDi hides14:48
* _MMA_ notes his comment on learning when not to respond. (which in itself, is a response) :P14:49
* SiDi steals _MMA_'s note and makes a paper plane out of it14:50
* SiDi climbs on the plane and launches it towards an open window14:50
_MMA_:P14:50
* SiDi falls from the 3rd floor and dies.14:50
_MMA_Man. That was fun for a sec then got dark. :)14:51
SiDi[A few hours later] Uggggh14:51
SiDiBraiiiiiiiiiin14:51
thorwilgood to see everything is as usual with SiDi15:03
SiDithorwil: at least im not getting worse ? :D15:06
macvr_MMA_: just sent you the nm icons...15:06
SiDiand us ? :(15:06
macvrSiDi: nothing for you ;p15:07
macvrthorwil: did you check out the nm icons?15:07
thorwilmacvr: not until now15:09
macvrwhen you are free, :)15:09
thorwilmacvr: the curves are a bit strange. how about using circle segments?15:09
macvrit doesnt get displayed , properly... just keeps getting pixelated :(15:10
thorwilmacvr: the X on mm-signal-00 is too loud and is already supposed to have a different meaning elsewhere15:10
macvrthorwil: dont worry about that X , it will *never* be used15:11
thorwilmacvr: if simply empty segments are not enough for 00, try a single slash /15:11
thorwilmacvr: the shadow on the floor makes no sense15:12
_MMA_hehe. Told ya. :P15:12
macvr_MMA_: since if the wireless signal is lost , the Ethernet disconnected icon , is displayed.. so no use working much on the 00 icon15:12
macvroops!15:12
macvrthorwil: ^15:12
macvrthorwil: i saw that shadow used in the gnome colors icon set, it looks nice when used in light panels... in dark panels it no issue15:13
thorwilmacvr: i would go for a flat-on-the-ground shadow like for document-x icons15:14
thorwilor none at all15:14
thorwilmacvr: if you really want that floating above the ground look, you have to add depth to the segments15:15
macvrI'm not sure which icon is document-x15:15
thorwilmacvr: i mean any one with a paper icon15:16
_MMA_*Breathe network manager icons now in trunk (rev.88) and the packaging branch (rev.57).15:16
* _MMA_ has some wiki work to do.15:16
macvr\o/15:16
macvrthorwil: why does an icon need depth when we are assuming light from above? wouldnt the shadow be below?15:18
macvrjust like for the folders?15:18
_MMA_macvr: Thing is, it's not really an object.15:18
thorwilmacvr: you need substance to cast shadow15:18
_MMA_It's a representation.15:18
macvrah15:18
_MMA_macvr: So while I will let things like this through based on an artistic want, I knew someone (thorwil mostly :P) would call you out on it. ;)15:21
macvr_MMA_: thorwil: maybe it needs to be like this > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/nm-signal-25.png15:21
macvrthats the gnome colors one15:21
_MMA_macvr: Really, the opinion is the same. It's not really something of substance to cast a shadow.15:22
macvr... i dont mind if it doesnt have a shadow... but its just looks better on the panel, thats why i added it... could remove it though , shall i edit it?15:23
_MMA_But I might go either way on this. Let's see what if any outcry there will be.15:23
macvrok we'll wait...15:24
_MMA_Ouch. Something up with the wiki. (at least for me) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet15:24
SiDiLP is dead, too15:25
_MMA_ouch15:25
macvrstupid servers!15:25
_MMA_Maybe maintenance.15:25
macvrlp was down just yday too!15:26
macvryesterday^15:26
* _MMA_ goes to make food/watch some TV. I'll get the /Icons pages updated today.15:26
* macvr corrects before _MMA_ reacts15:26
macvrandreasn: can you take a look at this> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/38783419:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 387834 in hundredpapercuts "Too easy too accidentally "Remove from Panel", icon not very recognizable" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:21
macvrI'm not sure of the icon label19:21
andreasnwhat label? the one saying "Remove From Panel"?19:26
andreasnin gnome-icon-theme trunk, we recently changed the delete icon to a red sign looking like this (/)19:27
andreasnso changing the icon from gtk-remove to gtk-delete in the panel would get the desired effect once we get a release of that out19:28
andreasnand gtk-delete might be a better choice in this situation, as the gtk-remove links to a icon called list-remove19:35
andreasnand nothing is getting removed from a list in this case19:35
andreasnoh, if you delete a launcher from the desktop, it's called "move to trash", but if you do it in the panel it's called "remove from panel"19:39
macvrandreasn: could you pls add your comment to the launchpad page, so that it could be easy to track?19:53

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