[14:28] <_MMA_> macvr: Just email me the SVGs direct. I'll put 'em in now.
[14:29] <macvr> _MMA_: i'm labelling them... thats why, i havent uploaded them
[14:29] <_MMA_> Sure sure. I'm saying just to save you thr trouble of uploading them.
[14:29] <macvr> ok
[14:29] <_MMA_> PNGs are fine for show if you want to.
[14:30] <macvr> _MMA_: also you might sleep well , >  I'v done them is all sizes ;p
[14:30] <_MMA_> \m/
[14:30] <macvr> _MMA_:  anything corrections you want or all is fine??
[14:31] <_MMA_> This is fine for now. We can test them in the set. See what people think. Then adjust from there.
[14:31] <macvr> _MMA_: ok... what about the notify-osd icons matching these??
[14:32] <_MMA_> Still gotta look into that but generally it sounds like a good idea.
[14:32] <michote> _MMA_: could you explain what you mean with "brown tones" in the wiki on face-monkey?
[14:33] <macvr> k...
[14:33] <_MMA_> michote: Sure. It still feels a bit orange to me. I'd rather it look like a brown monkey. :)
[14:34] <michote> _MMA_: ok, I'll try to find a less orange brown tone ;)
[14:34] <_MMA_> michote: cool
[14:35] <_MMA_> macvr: I /think/ one of the things that might get mentioned is dropping the shadows below say, 24px.
[14:35] <_MMA_> We'll see.
[14:37] <macvr> _MMA_: I tried that... but the white from the background comes through... I'v used the shadow just to minimize the white in between the curves
[14:37] <macvr> _MMA_: 16px doesnt have it
[14:37] <_MMA_> I'm talking about the drop shadow.
[14:37] <_MMA_> On the ground.
[14:37] <macvr> oh ... i like that :(
[14:38] <_MMA_> Sure sure. But, it's a detail that will get lost at smaller sizes and with some themes.
[14:38] <macvr> _MMA_: i got the idea from gnome colors... it looks good with a shadow.
[14:38] <_MMA_> I'm not sayin' we nix it now. Just might be something to look at.
[14:38] <macvr> _MMA_: as you always say " we cant think of all use cases " ;p
[14:39] <macvr> default panel is the light grey, right?
[14:39] <_MMA_> macvr: Ok. Ill say that with *all* dark themes the detail will get lost. ;)
[14:39] <macvr> _MMA_: if you keep chatting me up , you wont get the icons quickly
[14:40] <_MMA_> I got all day. ;)
[14:40] <macvr> well i dont! ;p
[14:40] <macvr> if i dont do it now , i'd have to do it later...
[14:41] <_MMA_> macvr: One thing I and many have learned is when to *not* respond. :)
[14:41] <macvr> _MMA_: well, i wouldnt ... just that its rare to catch hold of YOU !
[14:42] <_MMA_> No no. I'm on most nights for a few hours. (but there's a time diff there I guess) and every weekend.
[14:43] <_MMA_> You kids and all yer free time. ;)
[14:45] <macvr> ^ that just makes me feel younger :)
[14:47]  * _MMA_ will be 33 in 5 days.
[14:48] <SiDi> _MMA_: so your birthday is on 33rd of June ?
[14:48]  * SiDi hides
[14:49]  * _MMA_ notes his comment on learning when not to respond. (which in itself, is a response) :P
[14:50]  * SiDi steals _MMA_'s note and makes a paper plane out of it
[14:50]  * SiDi climbs on the plane and launches it towards an open window
[14:50] <_MMA_> :P
[14:50]  * SiDi falls from the 3rd floor and dies.
[14:51] <_MMA_> Man. That was fun for a sec then got dark. :)
[14:51] <SiDi> [A few hours later] Uggggh
[14:51] <SiDi> Braiiiiiiiiiin
[15:03] <thorwil> good to see everything is as usual with SiDi
[15:06] <SiDi> thorwil: at least im not getting worse ? :D
[15:06] <macvr> _MMA_: just sent you the nm icons...
[15:06] <SiDi> and us ? :(
[15:07] <macvr> SiDi: nothing for you ;p
[15:07] <macvr> thorwil: did you check out the nm icons?
[15:09] <thorwil> macvr: not until now
[15:09] <macvr> when you are free, :)
[15:09] <thorwil> macvr: the curves are a bit strange. how about using circle segments?
[15:10] <macvr> it doesnt get displayed , properly... just keeps getting pixelated :(
[15:10] <thorwil> macvr: the X on mm-signal-00 is too loud and is already supposed to have a different meaning elsewhere
[15:11] <macvr> thorwil: dont worry about that X , it will *never* be used
[15:11] <thorwil> macvr: if simply empty segments are not enough for 00, try a single slash /
[15:12] <thorwil> macvr: the shadow on the floor makes no sense
[15:12] <_MMA_> hehe. Told ya. :P
[15:12] <macvr> _MMA_: since if the wireless signal is lost , the Ethernet disconnected icon , is displayed.. so no use working much on the 00 icon
[15:12] <macvr> oops!
[15:12] <macvr> thorwil: ^
[15:13] <macvr> thorwil: i saw that shadow used in the gnome colors icon set, it looks nice when used in light panels... in dark panels it no issue
[15:14] <thorwil> macvr: i would go for a flat-on-the-ground shadow like for document-x icons
[15:14] <thorwil> or none at all
[15:15] <thorwil> macvr: if you really want that floating above the ground look, you have to add depth to the segments
[15:15] <macvr> I'm not sure which icon is document-x
[15:16] <thorwil> macvr: i mean any one with a paper icon
[15:16] <_MMA_> *Breathe network manager icons now in trunk (rev.88) and the packaging branch (rev.57).
[15:16]  * _MMA_ has some wiki work to do.
[15:16] <macvr> \o/
[15:18] <macvr> thorwil: why does an icon need depth when we are assuming light from above? wouldnt the shadow be below?
[15:18] <macvr> just like for the folders?
[15:18] <_MMA_> macvr: Thing is, it's not really an object.
[15:18] <thorwil> macvr: you need substance to cast shadow
[15:18] <_MMA_> It's a representation.
[15:18] <macvr> ah
[15:21] <_MMA_> macvr: So while I will let things like this through based on an artistic want, I knew someone (thorwil mostly :P) would call you out on it. ;)
[15:21] <macvr> _MMA_: thorwil: maybe it needs to be like this > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/nm-signal-25.png
[15:21] <macvr> thats the gnome colors one
[15:22] <_MMA_> macvr: Really, the opinion is the same. It's not really something of substance to cast a shadow.
[15:23] <macvr> ... i dont mind if it doesnt have a shadow... but its just looks better on the panel, thats why i added it... could remove it though , shall i edit it?
[15:23] <_MMA_> But I might go either way on this. Let's see what if any outcry there will be.
[15:24] <macvr> ok we'll wait...
[15:24] <_MMA_> Ouch. Something up with the wiki. (at least for me) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet
[15:25] <SiDi> LP is dead, too
[15:25] <_MMA_> ouch
[15:25] <macvr> stupid servers!
[15:25] <_MMA_> Maybe maintenance.
[15:26] <macvr> lp was down just yday too!
[15:26] <macvr> yesterday^
[15:26]  * _MMA_ goes to make food/watch some TV. I'll get the /Icons pages updated today.
[15:26]  * macvr corrects before _MMA_ reacts
[19:21] <macvr> andreasn: can you take a look at this> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/387834
[19:21] <macvr> I'm not sure of the icon label
[19:26] <andreasn> what label? the one saying "Remove From Panel"?
[19:27] <andreasn> in gnome-icon-theme trunk, we recently changed the delete icon to a red sign looking like this (/)
[19:28] <andreasn> so changing the icon from gtk-remove to gtk-delete in the panel would get the desired effect once we get a release of that out
[19:35] <andreasn> and gtk-delete might be a better choice in this situation, as the gtk-remove links to a icon called list-remove
[19:35] <andreasn> and nothing is getting removed from a list in this case
[19:39] <andreasn> oh, if you delete a launcher from the desktop, it's called "move to trash", but if you do it in the panel it's called "remove from panel"
[19:53] <macvr> andreasn: could you pls add your comment to the launchpad page, so that it could be easy to track?