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mcasadevalldirecthex, your on Slashdot!00:24
ScottKYou say that like it's a good thing.00:24
mcasadevallScottK, I was on /. recently, my spam levels still haven't returned to nromal :-/00:25
sebnerScottK: 15 minutes of fame ;)00:25
mcasadevallwow00:26
mcasadevallRMS doesn't use a webbrowser?00:26
* mcasadevall stares00:26
emgentmcasadevall: ? url ?00:29
NCommanderemgent, http://lwn.net/Articles/262570/ - he uses wget ...00:30
emgentNCommander: LOL!รน00:33
slangasekwaah, why has the printing dialog in firefox completely changed?00:42
slangasek... and why is the printing itself screwed up00:42
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directhexmcasadevall, you mean "again" i think02:27
directhexmcasadevall, problem is, i'm still recovering from june's shared hosting bill02:27
mcasadevalldirecthex, ow02:27
directhexmcasadevall, i get 3.6 gig a month, and i was up to about 7 last week02:28
Laneyrar02:28
mcasadevalldirecthex, you need a better plan.02:28
directhexmcasadevall, yes, i do. i suspect i'll be forced into a decision when my current hosts give me the push02:31
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directhexSummary for June 200902:31
directhexTotal bandwidth used 8662 MB02:31
directhexTotal allowed 3600 MB02:31
directhexwell, bollocks02:31
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* hyperair pokes fta about ia32-libs =\07:35
AnAntHello, is Rick Spencer here ?09:04
Nafallo!ask | AnAnt09:10
ubottuAnAnt: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:10
AnAntNafallo: I didn't ask to ask09:10
Nafallooh well. it's still a weekend :-)09:11
wgrantHe's not here.09:11
Nafallokind of sent the wrong bot thingie :-P09:11
wgrantNafallo: Did you mean !weekend?09:11
Nafallowgrant: yes. but I use !ask hell of a lot more than I use weekend, so brainfail on my part.09:12
AnAntanyways, does anyone know about the  parental control software ?09:12
AnAntit was a blueprint filed by Rick09:12
Nafallohmm. !ask wasn't so bad after all then :-)09:13
AnAntwill there be parental control in karmic ?09:13
AnAntNafallo: sorta ;)09:13
wgrantPriority is Low, so it might well slip.09:13
wgrantBut I know nothing more than is on the blueprint page.09:13
wgrantYou'd do much better to ask during the week, and when the relevant people aren't asleep.09:14
Nafallothe US should be asleep this time even during weeks actually :-)09:14
wgrantNafallo: Yep.09:15
AnAntI did't know that he's american09:15
wgrantAnAnt: Launchpads knows everything.09:15
AnAntoh, yes09:15
AnAntmy bad, I only searched for his nick on LP !09:15
AnAntok, thanks09:17
slangasekNafallo: I didn't get that memo09:51
Nafalloslangasek: you're probably still hiding in London somewhere. undercover.09:52
slangasekthis is an interesting theory09:53
Nafalloanyway. I've eaten and had something to drink. time to go to bed.09:57
wgrantNafallo: Isn't it like 9am...?10:01
Nafallowgrant: 1010:03
tgpraveen!weekend11:16
ubottuIt's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.11:16
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garyvdmstefanlsd: ping11:31
garyvdmHi - I'm trying to test a package with pbuilder11:56
garyvdmWhen I run sudo pbuilder create - it does nothing11:56
garyvdmhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/205525/11:57
garyvdmstephenlsd was helping me yesterday - He did something to make try make a karmic pbuilder11:57
garyvdmWe had to cancel it because I had to go.11:58
garyvdmI'm now trying to get going aging - but I can't get pbuilder working :-(11:58
Hobbseegaryvdm: just be patient.  Also, how good is you rintenet connection?12:07
garyvdmpoor12:07
Hobbseethen it's going to take ages - it's downloading a minimal ubuntu system12:07
garyvdmBut it's not download anything according to System Monitor12:08
Hobbseehm, then that's odd12:08
garyvdmThe other thing stephenlsd did was set it to use a proxy server at his work12:09
garyvdmI've changed my apt sources to not use the proxy server - but he did something else regarding the proxy server when we got to the pbuilder bit12:10
garyvdmHobbsee - can I get pbuilder to use a ubuntu cd?12:11
garyvdmto do a jaunty enviroment?12:13
Hobbseegaryvdm: err.  Yes, you probably could, with an alternate cd, setting up a mirror based on it, and then using the --othermirror option in pbuilder to point to it.  I don't have the time to step you through it, though, and i've not done it myself12:13
garyvdmOk12:14
garyvdmI think I will mail stefenlsd to get some help from him.12:15
Chipzzgaryvdm: don't. just join #ubuntu-motu and ask there12:15
garyvdmOk12:15
Chipzzyou'll 1) have a faster answer and 2) not bother one individual developer with your problem12:16
Hobbseeoh, and thee probably aren't many people aound on a sunday12:20
garyvdmChipzz: It's just stefenlsd was doing some stuff on my system, and I'm not sure what he did (see http://blog.glock.co.za/packagejam-2009-south-africa)12:21
Chipzzgaryvdm: point still stands12:44
Chipzzgaryvdm: anyway, like I said, pls use #ubuntu-motu in the future for these kind of questions :)12:45
garyvdmOk12:46
Chipzz(stefanlsd probably wasn't the only one organising the PackageJam - and even if he were, he's not the only one with those skills :))12:47
garyvdmBut he is the only one who knows what he did on my system :-012:48
nuggetsradiohey14:00
taavikkohow would one go on to set timeout for guest-session? tried editin guest-session-launch.sh but that got me so far, that the terminal opened were closed :)14:34
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ftahyperair, what about ia32-libs?18:55
YokoZarjcastro: where are the plenary videos?18:57
YokoZar(not at http://videos.ubuntu.com/uds/) and your message from the 10th said they'd be available "next week"18:57
hyperairfta: outdated stuff, which doesn't work with pulseaudio.18:58
hyperairfta: and crackly video with skype if it actually works18:58
jcastroYokoZar: I sent the message like, this past thursday19:00
jcastroYokoZar: next week as in this week coming up19:00
YokoZarjcastro: hmm I might have misread the email19:00
YokoZarthanks then19:00
jcastrono worries19:00
jcastroYokoZar: the IS team is on it for next week, there were some complications getting the right server to the right place or something19:01
ftahyperair, my up-to-date package breaks plugins in firefox, including flash so i'm quite reluctant to push it19:05
tgpraveeni was just reading this list of papercuts solved this week and the also some of the future cuts and from this report itself and also from the comments section of many of the future milestone bugs i can see majority of bugs falling into 2 categories19:07
tgpraveen22:53http://blog.davebsd.com/2009/06/28/first-paper-cut-milestone-reached/19:07
tgpraveeneither 1. fixed upstream independent of help from ubuntu team/papercut proj19:07
tgpraveen22:54 2. just some changes to naming eg. clean up by name->arrange by name19:07
tgpraveen22:54 what do u guys think?19:07
tgpraveen22:54 are these observations true or are they actually doing better.19:07
tgpraveen22:54 and i do know that papercut means minor bug but still there could19:08
tgpraveen22:54 be more types of bugs like of type19:08
tgpraveen22:55 Width of notifications seem arbitrarily small19:08
tgpraveen22:55 or the bug about having a notification for all drive unmounts19:08
dupondjepitti: u there ?20:40
geserdupondje: you might have better chances in around 12 hours21:13
dupondje:)21:14
dupondjethere is some crappor bug in Karmic atm21:14
dupondjemounting usb disks broken :(21:14
lesshastehi... it seems that shutdown -h is using kexec21:33
lesshastewhich means that it skips the boot loader when it restartws21:33
lesshastehow can I fix this?21:33
chrisccoulsonlesshaste - edit /etc/default/kexec?21:37
chrisccoulsonchange LOAD_KEXEC to false21:37
lesshastechrisccoulson, no such file21:38
chrisccoulson:-/21:38
chrisccoulsonno idea then ;)21:38
lesshastethis is a weird bug really21:39
lesshasteit means that selecting OS/kernel is a pain21:39
lesshasteas I have to boot, then restart !21:39
hyperairshutdown -h or shutdown -r?21:40
hyperairi thoguht -h was supposed to halt?21:40
lesshasteshutdown -h halts21:40
lesshastewhen I start again it skips grub21:40
lesshasteas it seems to have used kexec21:40
lesshasteshutdown -r does what you expect21:40
lesshasteand loads grub on restart21:40
hyperairer i wasn't aware that kexec could cause that21:40
lesshastehyperair, it seems it does/./21:41
hyperairare you sure it is kexec?21:41
hyperairi  mean kexec is supposed to replace the kernel *immediately*21:41
lesshastethere is a different bug here hmm https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2009-May/089055.html that seems related21:41
hyperairnot sit around in an off state until your computer starts up again21:41
lesshastehyperair, no I am not sure but it does boot fast21:42
hyperairhmm =\21:42
* hyperair doesn't know21:42
hyperairi don't bother with kexec21:42
hyperairmy bootloader and bios are pretty quick21:42
lesshastehyperair, well.. I don't know what it is then21:43
lesshasteI am not sure21:43
lesshasteany other ideas gratefully received21:43
lesshastehyperair, I think the kexec part comes when it starts up again21:51
hyperairhmm21:51
lesshastehyperair, it's not the shutdown part21:51
hyperairinteresting eh.. =\21:51
* hyperair is confused21:51
lesshastehyperair, the question is... how can I debug this?  dmesg seems useless21:51
* hyperair doesn't know21:51
hyperairi'd just not use kexec and have done with it =p21:52
hyperairs/have/be/21:52
lesshasteI am not trying to use it!21:53
lesshastethis is a default jaunty install21:53
hyperairbut kexec-tools shouldn't be installed in jaunty by default =\22:03
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