[00:24] <mcasadevall> directhex, your on Slashdot!
[00:24] <ScottK> You say that like it's a good thing.
[00:25] <mcasadevall> ScottK, I was on /. recently, my spam levels still haven't returned to nromal :-/
[00:25] <sebner> ScottK: 15 minutes of fame ;)
[00:26] <mcasadevall> wow
[00:26] <mcasadevall> RMS doesn't use a webbrowser?
[00:26]  * mcasadevall stares
[00:29] <emgent> mcasadevall: ? url ?
[00:30] <NCommander> emgent, http://lwn.net/Articles/262570/ - he uses wget ...
[00:33] <emgent> NCommander: LOL!ù
[00:42] <slangasek> waah, why has the printing dialog in firefox completely changed?
[00:42] <slangasek> ... and why is the printing itself screwed up
[02:27] <directhex> mcasadevall, you mean "again" i think
[02:27] <directhex> mcasadevall, problem is, i'm still recovering from june's shared hosting bill
[02:27] <mcasadevall> directhex, ow
[02:28] <directhex> mcasadevall, i get 3.6 gig a month, and i was up to about 7 last week
[02:28] <Laney> rar
[02:28] <mcasadevall> directhex, you need a better plan.
[02:31] <directhex> mcasadevall, yes, i do. i suspect i'll be forced into a decision when my current hosts give me the push
[02:31] <directhex> Summary for June 2009
[02:31] <directhex> Total bandwidth used 	8662 MB
[02:31] <directhex> Total allowed 	3600 MB
[02:31] <directhex> well, bollocks
[07:35]  * hyperair pokes fta about ia32-libs =\
[09:04] <AnAnt> Hello, is Rick Spencer here ?
[09:10] <Nafallo> !ask | AnAnt
[09:10] <AnAnt> Nafallo: I didn't ask to ask
[09:11] <Nafallo> oh well. it's still a weekend :-)
[09:11] <wgrant> He's not here.
[09:11] <Nafallo> kind of sent the wrong bot thingie :-P
[09:11] <wgrant> Nafallo: Did you mean !weekend?
[09:12] <Nafallo> wgrant: yes. but I use !ask hell of a lot more than I use weekend, so brainfail on my part.
[09:12] <AnAnt> anyways, does anyone know about the  parental control software ?
[09:12] <AnAnt> it was a blueprint filed by Rick
[09:13] <Nafallo> hmm. !ask wasn't so bad after all then :-)
[09:13] <AnAnt> will there be parental control in karmic ?
[09:13] <AnAnt> Nafallo: sorta ;)
[09:13] <wgrant> Priority is Low, so it might well slip.
[09:13] <wgrant> But I know nothing more than is on the blueprint page.
[09:14] <wgrant> You'd do much better to ask during the week, and when the relevant people aren't asleep.
[09:14] <Nafallo> the US should be asleep this time even during weeks actually :-)
[09:15] <wgrant> Nafallo: Yep.
[09:15] <AnAnt> I did't know that he's american
[09:15] <wgrant> AnAnt: Launchpads knows everything.
[09:15] <AnAnt> oh, yes
[09:15] <AnAnt> my bad, I only searched for his nick on LP !
[09:17] <AnAnt> ok, thanks
[09:51] <slangasek> Nafallo: I didn't get that memo
[09:52] <Nafallo> slangasek: you're probably still hiding in London somewhere. undercover.
[09:53] <slangasek> this is an interesting theory
[09:57] <Nafallo> anyway. I've eaten and had something to drink. time to go to bed.
[10:01] <wgrant> Nafallo: Isn't it like 9am...?
[10:03] <Nafallo> wgrant: 10
[11:16] <tgpraveen> !weekend
[11:31] <garyvdm> stefanlsd: ping
[11:56] <garyvdm> Hi - I'm trying to test a package with pbuilder
[11:56] <garyvdm> When I run sudo pbuilder create - it does nothing
[11:57] <garyvdm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/205525/
[11:57] <garyvdm> stephenlsd was helping me yesterday - He did something to make try make a karmic pbuilder
[11:58] <garyvdm> We had to cancel it because I had to go.
[11:58] <garyvdm> I'm now trying to get going aging - but I can't get pbuilder working :-(
[12:07] <Hobbsee> garyvdm: just be patient.  Also, how good is you rintenet connection?
[12:07] <garyvdm> poor
[12:07] <Hobbsee> then it's going to take ages - it's downloading a minimal ubuntu system
[12:08] <garyvdm> But it's not download anything according to System Monitor
[12:08] <Hobbsee> hm, then that's odd
[12:09] <garyvdm> The other thing stephenlsd did was set it to use a proxy server at his work
[12:10] <garyvdm> I've changed my apt sources to not use the proxy server - but he did something else regarding the proxy server when we got to the pbuilder bit
[12:11] <garyvdm> Hobbsee - can I get pbuilder to use a ubuntu cd?
[12:13] <garyvdm> to do a jaunty enviroment?
[12:13] <Hobbsee> garyvdm: err.  Yes, you probably could, with an alternate cd, setting up a mirror based on it, and then using the --othermirror option in pbuilder to point to it.  I don't have the time to step you through it, though, and i've not done it myself
[12:14] <garyvdm> Ok
[12:15] <garyvdm> I think I will mail stefenlsd to get some help from him.
[12:15] <Chipzz> garyvdm: don't. just join #ubuntu-motu and ask there
[12:15] <garyvdm> Ok
[12:16] <Chipzz> you'll 1) have a faster answer and 2) not bother one individual developer with your problem
[12:20] <Hobbsee> oh, and thee probably aren't many people aound on a sunday
[12:21] <garyvdm> Chipzz: It's just stefenlsd was doing some stuff on my system, and I'm not sure what he did (see http://blog.glock.co.za/packagejam-2009-south-africa)
[12:44] <Chipzz> garyvdm: point still stands
[12:45] <Chipzz> garyvdm: anyway, like I said, pls use #ubuntu-motu in the future for these kind of questions :)
[12:46] <garyvdm> Ok
[12:47] <Chipzz> (stefanlsd probably wasn't the only one organising the PackageJam - and even if he were, he's not the only one with those skills :))
[12:48] <garyvdm> But he is the only one who knows what he did on my system :-0
[14:00] <nuggetsradio> hey
[14:34] <taavikko> how would one go on to set timeout for guest-session? tried editin guest-session-launch.sh but that got me so far, that the terminal opened were closed :)
[18:55] <fta> hyperair, what about ia32-libs?
[18:57] <YokoZar> jcastro: where are the plenary videos?
[18:57] <YokoZar> (not at http://videos.ubuntu.com/uds/) and your message from the 10th said they'd be available "next week"
[18:58] <hyperair> fta: outdated stuff, which doesn't work with pulseaudio.
[18:58] <hyperair> fta: and crackly video with skype if it actually works
[19:00] <jcastro> YokoZar: I sent the message like, this past thursday
[19:00] <jcastro> YokoZar: next week as in this week coming up
[19:00] <YokoZar> jcastro: hmm I might have misread the email
[19:00] <YokoZar> thanks then
[19:00] <jcastro> no worries
[19:01] <jcastro> YokoZar: the IS team is on it for next week, there were some complications getting the right server to the right place or something
[19:05] <fta> hyperair, my up-to-date package breaks plugins in firefox, including flash so i'm quite reluctant to push it
[19:07] <tgpraveen> i was just reading this list of papercuts solved this week and the also some of the future cuts and from this report itself and also from the comments section of many of the future milestone bugs i can see majority of bugs falling into 2 categories
[19:07] <tgpraveen> 22:53http://blog.davebsd.com/2009/06/28/first-paper-cut-milestone-reached/
[19:07] <tgpraveen> either 1. fixed upstream independent of help from ubuntu team/papercut proj
[19:07] <tgpraveen> 22:54 2. just some changes to naming eg. clean up by name->arrange by name
[19:07] <tgpraveen> 22:54 what do u guys think?
[19:07] <tgpraveen> 22:54 are these observations true or are they actually doing better.
[19:08] <tgpraveen> 22:54 and i do know that papercut means minor bug but still there could
[19:08] <tgpraveen> 22:54 be more types of bugs like of type
[19:08] <tgpraveen> 22:55 Width of notifications seem arbitrarily small
[19:08] <tgpraveen> 22:55 or the bug about having a notification for all drive unmounts
[20:40] <dupondje> pitti: u there ?
[21:13] <geser> dupondje: you might have better chances in around 12 hours
[21:14] <dupondje> :)
[21:14] <dupondje> there is some crappor bug in Karmic atm
[21:14] <dupondje> mounting usb disks broken :(
[21:33] <lesshaste> hi... it seems that shutdown -h is using kexec
[21:33] <lesshaste> which means that it skips the boot loader when it restartws
[21:33] <lesshaste> how can I fix this?
[21:37] <chrisccoulson> lesshaste - edit /etc/default/kexec?
[21:37] <chrisccoulson> change LOAD_KEXEC to false
[21:38] <lesshaste> chrisccoulson, no such file
[21:38] <chrisccoulson> :-/
[21:38] <chrisccoulson> no idea then ;)
[21:39] <lesshaste> this is a weird bug really
[21:39] <lesshaste> it means that selecting OS/kernel is a pain
[21:39] <lesshaste> as I have to boot, then restart !
[21:40] <hyperair> shutdown -h or shutdown -r?
[21:40] <hyperair> i thoguht -h was supposed to halt?
[21:40] <lesshaste> shutdown -h halts
[21:40] <lesshaste> when I start again it skips grub
[21:40] <lesshaste> as it seems to have used kexec
[21:40] <lesshaste> shutdown -r does what you expect
[21:40] <lesshaste> and loads grub on restart
[21:40] <hyperair> er i wasn't aware that kexec could cause that
[21:41] <lesshaste> hyperair, it seems it does/./
[21:41] <hyperair> are you sure it is kexec?
[21:41] <hyperair> i  mean kexec is supposed to replace the kernel *immediately*
[21:41] <lesshaste> there is a different bug here hmm https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2009-May/089055.html that seems related
[21:41] <hyperair> not sit around in an off state until your computer starts up again
[21:42] <lesshaste> hyperair, no I am not sure but it does boot fast
[21:42] <hyperair> hmm =\
[21:42]  * hyperair doesn't know
[21:42] <hyperair> i don't bother with kexec
[21:42] <hyperair> my bootloader and bios are pretty quick
[21:43] <lesshaste> hyperair, well.. I don't know what it is then
[21:43] <lesshaste> I am not sure
[21:43] <lesshaste> any other ideas gratefully received
[21:51] <lesshaste> hyperair, I think the kexec part comes when it starts up again
[21:51] <hyperair> hmm
[21:51] <lesshaste> hyperair, it's not the shutdown part
[21:51] <hyperair> interesting eh.. =\
[21:51]  * hyperair is confused
[21:51] <lesshaste> hyperair, the question is... how can I debug this?  dmesg seems useless
[21:51]  * hyperair doesn't know
[21:52] <hyperair> i'd just not use kexec and have done with it =p
[21:52] <hyperair> s/have/be/
[21:53] <lesshaste> I am not trying to use it!
[21:53] <lesshaste> this is a default jaunty install
[22:03] <hyperair> but kexec-tools shouldn't be installed in jaunty by default =\