[00:19] <jmarsden> $() is newer bash syntax, and I think it is preferred unless you need your script to work in old versions of bash.  See the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide which says "The $(...)  form has superseded backticks for command substitution."  http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/commandsub.html
[01:19] <henrik-hw0> hi. any chance of requesting an update of libsndfile to 1.0.18 or newer? it brings notable new features such as support for ogg vorbis and flac.
[01:21] <ajmitch> henrik-hw0: not likely to happen in jaunty, since it's released, but we have 1.0.20 in karmic
[01:46] <Ampelbein> nellery: still there?
[01:52] <nellery> Ampelbein: hi
[01:54] <Ampelbein> nellery: hi. about testbuilding (python-)packages: it is extremely useful to add pkgbinarymangler as additional package, either via --extrapackages in pbuilder or as build-dep for ppa-testing. that way, a FTBFS will be shown for the python2.6-dist-packages thing.
[01:55] <Ampelbein> (among other problems, of course)
[01:56] <Ampelbein> nellery: i got this from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2009-June/005805.html
[01:57] <nellery> Ampelbein: yea, thanks for that
[05:45] <MTecknology> I was trying to follow the Packaging 101 video. I think the video might need to be remade since it seems like much of what was being done in there won't work anymore
[05:46] <MTecknology> the ed version used it's on ftp.gnu.org anymore and when I run "dh" in there, I get this error: dh: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory
[06:16] <therm> someone out there likes reviewing my packages? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libwilluhnutil http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libwilluhnds http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libswtcalendar http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/jameica
[08:34] <therm> someone out there likes reviewing my packages? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libwilluhnutil http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libwilluhnds http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libswtcalendar http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/jameica
[09:09] <micahg> anyone in here familiar with mantis?
[09:11] <micahg> nevermind....
[11:35] <ajmitch> geser: good timing, I was just starting a test build of kxstitch :)
[12:15] <cpscotti> Can anyone review this package http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/harpia ? It is a "simulink-like" automatic programming tool for computer vision and image processing.
[12:46] <garyvdm> Hi - I'm trying to test a package with pbuilder. When I run sudo pbuilder create - it does nothing
[12:46] <garyvdm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/205525/
[12:47] <garyvdm> And according to the System Monitor, It's not downloading anything.
[12:49] <JontheEchidna> that's quite strange, I've never seen that happen before
[15:14] <stefanlsd> garyvdm: u there?
[15:14] <garyvdm> HI
[15:14] <garyvdm> How are you?
[15:15] <stefanlsd> heys. good!  we put a mirror in /etc/pbuilderrc
[15:15] <stefanlsd> you prob just want to take that out
[15:15] <garyvdm> Ok
[15:18] <garyvdm> stefanlsd: It's downloading alot, even though I'm building a jaunty. Is there a  way to get it to use a ubuntu cd?
[15:18] <garyvdm> Or apt-cache
[15:20] <stefanlsd> garyvdm: not that i know of. You can pass pbuilder a mirror, so if you could create a 'mirror' repo of the cd, that should work.. if you have an apt-cache repo, that would work
[15:21] <garyvdm> Ok - thanks - I'll look at that - I unfortunately cant use that much bandwidth.
[15:21] <stefanlsd> garyvdm: yeah. you should of actually copied my pbuilder tar.gz files :|
[15:22] <garyvdm> stefanlsd: would it be ok if I poped in on Monday with a flash drive?
[15:23] <stefanlsd> garyvdm: yeah, np
[15:24] <garyvdm> cool.
[15:24] <stefanlsd> garyvdm: (if you wanna come borrow some bandwidth, thats also ok)
[15:28] <c_korn> cpscotti: ping
[16:37] <_dcraven> So.. I'm looking for an package upgrade bug to repackage if there is a newer version upstream compared to the version in the ubuntu repos. Many of these (in LP) are assigned to debbugs meaning the intent is that they are to be upgraded in Debian, then synced. Are we supposed to ignore these?
[16:57] <RainCT> Uhm... launchpad.net, wiki.ubuntu.com, ubuntuforums.org and packages.ubuntu.com are broken :/
[17:00] <iulian> Hmm, indeed.
[17:04] <RainCT> persia: OT, do you happen to know how to concatenate all results of a subquery into a comma-separated string in SQLite?
[18:23] <Laney> wtf
[18:23] <Laney> why do random process bugs suddenly start getting comments months after they were closed?
[18:30] <geser> you mean the lp branches mails?
[19:40] <Telesforo> 18/07/2009 21:00enBB Bino + Insershow + Fu-fu Ai + ...
[19:56]  * directhex tickles Daviey 
[19:56]  * Daviey giggles like a little baby
[20:19] <kpirc> Hi all. I need a 2nd advocate for my 'cadabra' package on REVU. Any takers?
[21:05] <mtinman> Hey all, I am trying to build mtftar into a .deb, but the Makefile contains no instructions to install. What commands/code should I add to this file to make it install, so I can get this package built? Any help is much appreciated...
[21:24] <sbasuita> mtinman, just put your install commands into debian/rules
[21:25] <mtinman> sbasuita: In a nutshell, how do I do that?
[21:26] <sbasuita> mtinman, debian/rules is a makefile, so just edit the 'install' rule
[21:26] <mtinman> sbasuita: Cool, thatnks, I'll try that...
[21:27] <mtinman> sbasuita: Where is said file usually located in the file system?
[21:28] <sbasuita> mtinman, root of source package/debian/rules
[21:28] <sbasuita> mtinman, it is pretty vital... how are you packaging this?
[21:29] <mtinman> sbasuita: I'm trying to use the new packager, GiftWrap, and also by command line, which I'm more farmiliar with (I'm older)
[21:29] <mtinman> *Chckle*
[21:30] <mtinman> I am attempting to package mtftar.
[21:31] <cpscotti> Trying again: Can anyone review this package http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/harpia ? It is a "simulink-like" visual automatic programming tool for computer vision and image processing. (I know it's not a REVU day.. but..)
[21:31] <sbasuita> mtinman, you should read the packaging guide on the wiki
[21:31] <mtinman> sbasuita: Thanks, I appreciate your help... :-)
[22:14] <masterkernel> Anyone interested in reviewing KernelCheck? (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kernelcheck) I promise I'll stop bugging you guys if someone does ;)
[23:27] <kb9vqf_> Any idea why REVU would crash with this error?
[23:27] <kb9vqf_> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/389-directory-server
[23:27] <kb9vqf_> (The error is on that page)
[23:28] <ajmitch> it's something I've seen before, a problem with the changelog parsing
[23:29] <kb9vqf_> Well, the only thing I changed was this line
[23:29] <kb9vqf_> 389-directory-server (1.2.0-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low
[23:29] <kb9vqf_> Is the version number incorrect?
[23:30] <ajmitch> version number ought to be ok
[23:30] <kb9vqf_> For some reason it is affecting a lot of my packages and I don't know how to fix/work around it
[23:30] <kb9vqf_> Odd
[23:31] <kb9vqf_> I assume that while it crashes no one can review the package?
[23:31] <ajmitch> it makes it difficult to review :)
[23:31] <kb9vqf_> :)
[23:31] <kb9vqf_> Who can I ask to fix it?
[23:31] <ajmitch> have you been working with the debian people about the renaming?
[23:31] <kb9vqf_> Yes I have
[23:31] <kb9vqf_> I contacted Michele (sp?)
[23:31]  * ajmitch has taken a look at the revu problem, but RainCT is probably the most likely to know about this
[23:31] <kb9vqf_> He/she hasn't worked on it in a while
[23:32] <RainCT> ajmitch: which problem?
[23:32] <ajmitch> I may be biased but things like this I'd rather see in Debian first
[23:32] <ajmitch> RainCT: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/389-directory-server
[23:32] <kb9vqf_> ajmitch: Certainly understandable
[23:33] <ajmitch> it's come up before, the changelog parsing seems busted
[23:33] <kb9vqf_> ajmitch But Ubuntu is missing a lot of the other packages that Debian does have, such as jss (which has already gotten one recommendation)
[23:33] <ajmitch> kb9vqf_: I see that I'm still part of the alioth pkg-fedora-ds team, so can probably sponsor uploads there when ready
[23:33] <kb9vqf_> ajmitch: Good! :)
[23:34] <kb9vqf_> ajmitch: As you can see, my servers are almost back up and I'm resuming work on this
[23:34]  * kb9vqf_ was down for way too long...
[23:34] <kb9vqf_> I'll give you a poke when something is ready
[23:34] <ajmitch> the debian NEW queue hasn't been moving fast recently
[23:35] <ajmitch> in the meantime, I guess we can get it into ubuntu
[23:35] <ajmitch> has upstream been moving fast with renaming?
[23:36] <RainCT> kb9vqf_: something in your changelog is very wrong :P
[23:36] <kb9vqf_> RainCT: Yeah, but what?
[23:36] <kb9vqf_> Let me pastebin it
[23:36] <ajmitch> RainCT: the changelog at least looks fairly standard
[23:37] <kb9vqf_> RainCT: Here: http://pastebin.com/m7f997795
[23:37] <kb9vqf_> dpkg-buildpackage had no problems with it
[23:37]  * ajmitch just added a newline to the changelog in the directory to see if that made any difference
[23:37] <RainCT> Can source package names start with a number?
[23:38] <kb9vqf_> RainCT: This went through OK once, then on the second upload it failed
[23:38] <ajmitch> binary packages can, at least
[23:38] <RainCT> ah yes, "must start with an alphanumeric character"
[23:38] <RAOF> RainCT: This has been clarified in policy 3.8.2
[23:39] <kb9vqf_> Hey, it works now...what changed?
[23:39] <kb9vqf_> The newline?
[23:39] <RainCT> anyway, kb9vqf_: your page works now
[23:39] <RainCT> no, I've added some code to catch the exception
[23:39] <kb9vqf_> Thanks! :)
[23:39] <ajmitch> RainCT: any idea why though?
[23:40] <ajmitch> because such an exception shouldn't be raised :)
[23:40] <ajmitch> python-debian is fairly old on there though
[23:41] <RainCT> ajmitch: No. I've just tested it locally and on my PC it works
[23:42] <ajmitch> 0.1.11 has a number of fixes from james_w about changelog parsing
[23:43] <ajmitch> shouldn't be hard to backport to that old hardy system :)
[23:43] <RainCT>   * Overhaul the parsing code to follow that used by dpkg-parsechangelog.py,
[23:43] <RainCT>     making it much more robust.
[23:43] <RainCT>     - There is now a "strict" option to turn warnings in to errors. It is
[23:44] <RainCT>       on by default
[23:44] <RainCT> I guess that's it
[23:45] <RainCT> ajmitch: right, feel free to update the package :)
[23:45] <ajmitch> installing the version from intrepid should just work, I hope
[23:46] <ajmitch> ok, installed that
[23:48] <ajmitch> RainCT_: ok, hopefully it should all magically work now