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tlatelolcohello. i'm with xfce and when i try to install ubuntu-desktop, it prompts "DependsĀ : pulseaudio but shall not be installed". what's this? thank you00:05
cjaeHi, I am installing xubuntu on a friends box, what do I need to do to have the HP printer detected when they take it home, I do not have the printer here00:15
SiDicjae: it worked out of the box for me00:40
SiDiHP C3100, plugged it and it was printing00:40
SiDibut the xsane app fails at spotting the scanner00:40
SiDibut "hp-scan -pPhotosmart-3100" was working great ;)00:40
cjaeyou have manually install xsane and tell it to use the scanner right00:41
aacostai just did a fresh reinstall of xubuntu jaunty01:29
aacostaon my eeepc01:29
aacostai hope it detects wireless automaticly01:29
aacosta::crosses fingers01:29
SiDii think it wont. proprietary driver01:30
SiDithe thing to do to install it is very simple afair01:30
SiDibut i dont remember it :|01:30
SiDi!eee01:30
ubottuInformation about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC01:30
knomearray.org/ubuntu01:30
duckwarshello01:31
aacostathe reason01:31
aacostai reintaled01:31
aacostawas becasue i had installed the array.org kernel01:31
aacostaexcept after a day the wireless stopped working01:31
duckwarscan anyone point me to a good article on turning an xunbuntu machine into a vnc server?01:32
aacostahow can i get wireless working on xubuntu on eeepc02:36
aacostaan alternative to the array.org kernel02:36
aacostai just downoaded the array.rg kernel03:40
aacostaso that my eeepc would be able ot get nlne03:40
aacostabut no luj03:40
aacostaluck03:40
aacostaanyone got any tips03:40
homebrewciderhey all, upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04, but the network icon down the bottom right hand corner is saying I'm not connected when clearly I am.03:51
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aacostaanyone know whats up with the array.org kernel?04:32
DDaygoldi have a ati rage mobility chip but i cant get videos to run without skipping any ideas?05:03
R1cochetis there a gnutella network client for linux?05:12
jpbI'm having issues booting to live cd...  tty terminates, respawns, and stops.  How do I proceed?05:38
chrissyhello i have a question05:47
R1cochetjpb: tty?05:47
R1cochetchrissy: ask and someone should answer in time05:48
jpbit runs through tty1-9 with the same output for each.  init: tty x Main process terminated with status 205:49
knomejpb, have you tried the alternate cd?05:49
jpbwhere x=the tty#05:49
chrissywhen i installed xubuntu i had status bars now i dont05:49
chrissywhat happen05:50
jpbcan i boot live cd before install on the alternate?05:50
knomechrissy, what do you mean by status bars?05:50
knome!alternate | jpb05:50
ubottujpb: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the link on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal05:50
chrissyup at top internet, applactions, wifi status05:51
jpbfairly new to linux and want to make sure it's at least usable before I go full install (wifey wouldn't be happy if her compy was down for an extended time!)05:51
chrissynow i have nothing at top05:51
knomechrissy, do you have the bottom panel left?05:51
chrissyno i do not05:52
knomechrissy, alt+f2 > xfce4-pnal05:52
knomechrissy, see if that helps.05:52
knome*xfce4-panel05:52
knomegosh that was a nasty typo05:52
chrissyi typed that in terminal and it said there was no file05:53
knomexfce4-panel ?05:53
chrissyyes05:53
knomecan you paste the error message as it appeared05:53
knomeif it's multiline, use pastebin05:53
knome!pastebin05:54
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic05:54
chrissythere was no error message05:54
jpbhow do i install from the alternate?05:54
knomechrissy, you said you got a message that there was no file05:54
chrissythat is all it said05:54
chrissylet me try it right now05:55
knomejpb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20using%20the%20Alternate%20CD05:55
jpbthank you!05:55
knomejpb, hmm, those apply for old versions. anyway, it is quite striaghtforward and you will get assistance during the installation.05:56
jpbany idea why the tty problems would crop up?  related to monitor issues?05:57
knomejpb, most possibly. so you can't see a desktop at all?05:57
knomejpb, you might actually want to try the safe graphics mode with the live cd first.05:58
jpbnope.  it gets partway thru the splash screen bar and then freezes.  it then kicks out to the readout i posted05:58
knomejpb, so do you even see this stage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Install2StartUp.png ?05:59
chrissyok when i typed it they showed up06:00
chrissybut when i closed terminal they disappered06:00
knomechrissy, yes, you have to start the app with alt+f206:01
jpbknome, i do.  i use "try xubuntu without changes" or whatever it is... and get the splash bar06:01
knomejpb, ok, try pressing F4(?) and select the safe graphics mode06:01
chrissyso do i close this chat or can i try it06:01
chrissywith this open06:01
knomechrissy, you can try it with this open.06:02
chrissyok i will try06:02
knomechrissy, alt+f2, type xfce4-panel and press run.06:02
jpbthanks for the help.  I'll give it a shot.  for now probably best that i wait til tomorrow to try it so i get some sleep 2nite.06:03
knomejpb, okay, good night and good luck. :)06:03
jpbthx.  hopefully i won't be back - at least on this issue...06:03
knome;)06:03
chrissyok great that worked06:04
chrissynow when i log off i check save secessions right06:05
chrissyknome you still there06:06
aacostaello06:48
aacostaanyonee got any information on the adams kernel?06:48
intokhello?07:25
forces?07:26
knome!hi | intok07:27
ubottuintok: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!07:27
intokYou know if Qimo will ever release a new version? It's a modified Xubuntu for young kids07:27
knomeno idea. never heard of it.07:28
intokhttp://www.qimo4kids.com/07:30
knomeyou'd have to ask the qimo team, not the xubuntu team07:30
intokhave to check again, but I think it's based on 8.1007:30
intokno answer on the email, no irc chan and no forum...07:33
knomeintok, still, the xubuntu team can't help you in this. sorry.07:51
knomeintok, we are no way affiliated with them, they just base their system on ours.07:51
mio1can xubuntu be installed on a system without cd-rom or usb boot?09:54
AraneidaeDoes xfce decide which screen a newly launched application opens on?10:10
AraneidaeNormally my apps open on the screen where my cursor is resting, suits me on the whole10:11
Araneidae but one app has suddenly started opening in the wrong screen.  Has xfce suddenly decided to look after it for me?10:11
TheSheepAraneidae: some aplications remember that on themselves10:35
AraneidaeDon't think that's the case this time ... but trying to check10:43
FelineMonstrositHi. Is there any way to edit the image/sound I get at startup?11:14
TheSheepFelineMonstrosit: yes, in the login window settings, under 'system'11:23
FelineMonstrositCool, thanks11:24
FelineMonstrositHow easy is it for me to create my own login screen? (Basically if I have a picture and want to make it the background)11:55
mib486hi, ive installed xubuntu alternate on my old laptop and GRUB won't work, so i want to start up with LILO: i run an ubuntu live cd in order to root into xubuntu with ubuntu to substitute GRUB to LILO, i am operating root into the system now, how do i do? dunno the commands, could someone help me step by step? (the guide i followed only arrived till here and im a newbie :D)13:26
aaqilhttp://valentine.viviti.com/entries/linux/easy-way-to-record-linux-desktop-movie-as-gif-animation   I am unable to use in in Xubuntu, I have installed but unable to add in my panel14:10
SiDiUse xfapplet to can add gnome applets to xubuntu14:11
vinnlaaqil, that's because that application isn't made for the Xubuntu panel. It is possible to do it, but it's heavier on performance14:11
SiDior use gtk-recordmydesktop :p14:11
vinnlaaqil, do you definitely want a GIF file as a result? Otherwise I would also recommend recordmydesktop14:12
aaqilyes I want gif14:12
aaqilbecause14:12
aaqilgif word is close to the word gf14:12
vinnlThen you'll have to install xfapplet and add that to the panel14:12
aaqili like gf word14:12
vinnlEhm right14:12
vinnl!info xfapplet14:12
ubottuPackage xfapplet does not exist in jaunty14:12
aaqilvinnl, command for xfapplet?14:12
vinnlHmm, let me see14:13
SiDisudo apt-get install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin14:13
vinnlThat's the one14:13
vinnlTo install it, then right-click the panel and add xfapplet14:13
aaqilwhat is the difference between apt-get and aptitude14:14
SiDiThey dont manage packages the same way14:15
vinnlThey're different applications with the same purpose14:15
SiDiif you use the Add/Remove window or if you already used apt-get stay on it14:15
SiDieither, use aptitude14:15
aaqilwao wao wao I have added14:16
aaqilThank you all :)14:16
vinnlyw ^.^14:16
aaqilits fun :D14:19
aaqilnetwork monitor speed limiting is not working14:38
aaqilWhat to do If I want to limit my internet speed, so that IF i am downloading files it will not take all my network speed and other network users will remain happy14:41
SiDi!qos14:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about qos14:43
SiDioh14:43
SiDicheckout for wondershaper or iptables14:44
SiDior google qos + ubuntu14:44
SiDithere is no doc on the official wiki apparently14:44
aaqilwhich is easy to setup specially with GUI (without commands)14:46
SiDiQoS settings is typically what you do with servers and routers, usually without GUI :D14:47
aaqil :(14:48
aaqilI do not know those things14:48
aaqilok, which is simple to setup?14:48
SiDiI dont know, i never used any14:49
SiDiaccording to the french wiki, wondershaper does this easily14:49
aaqilwhois sidi14:52
aaqil\whois sidi14:53
aaqil:D14:53
SiDiI'm Steve Dodier.14:54
SiDichannels : #exaile #xubuntu-devel #xubuntu #winehq-social #winehq #ubuntu-website #ubuntu-desktop #ubuntu-artwork #reztorrent #ayatana14:55
SiDiend of WHOIS...14:55
aaqili did not get PM of my whois i am on xchat14:55
aaqili shall come back later with more questions, Thanks sidi and all for help see u14:58
aaqilany application to upload flickr photos?17:06
Xuzz<Xuzz> I finally got dual monitors working last night - I had to use xrandr and edit my xorg.conf to have the max virtual display size of 2048x2048. Thats all fine. However, because the max size is that small, my moitors can't be "right-of" or "left-of" each other, I have to have X think they are on top of each other (which works). Is there a way to make it so when my mouse goes off the right of the screen it gets pushed to the other monitor even though it17:08
Xuzzis "top-17:08
Xuzz<Xuzz> of"?17:08
Xuzzany ideas?17:08
Xuzzmy monitors are 1200x800 to the physical left of 1280x102417:09
SiDiNo idea, sorry :/17:09
ochosiXuzz, how come you have a total resolution of 2048x2048, shouldn't it be 2480x1024?17:11
ochosiXuzz, also: why is the max virtual display size that small?17:12
Xuzzbecause a) I want compiz and b) my gfx chip is a GMA95017:13
Xuzzaccording to the wiki on that chip the max 3d canvas size is 2048x204817:14
ochosiXuzz, alright, so you want 3d accelleration17:16
Xuzzyes17:16
ochosiXuzz, but then it's clear that you can only align your monitors vertically - unless you want to let your displays use something else than their native resolution17:17
XuzzI'm asking about if it was possible to have X like "move" the mouse if I moved it off the right to move it down onto the other screen17:18
ochosiXuzz, and since that's the case i'd say you're stuck with one display on top of the other. (maybe there are some dirty compiz hacks for multiple displays, but none that i know about)17:18
Xuzzok, I'm going to try to see if I can write a python script to do what I want17:18
ochosiXuzz, yeah, as far as i heard compiz is good with scripts17:18
Xuzzfrom what I can tell so far compiz is just good in general, no effort to set up, worked with just installing the packages...17:20
litlebudahi all does anyone knows why a usb disk gets umounted and remounted randomly ?17:20
RonIn_i've been experiencing the same thing... even after i umount a usb disk minutes later it gets mounted without any interaction by me or any program Im using17:24
ochosiRonIn_, litlebuda try to change your setting in thunar's volume-manager, which is in control of automount17:25
litlebudaochosi, where is that please ?17:26
litlebudaherrm17:26
litlebudanever mind17:26
litlebudaill search17:26
litlebuda:)17:26
ochosilitlebuda, thunar > edit > preferences > advanced17:26
aaqilh17:27
aaqilho17:27
aaqilhow to install java environment for browser and applications?17:27
SiDi!java17:28
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository17:28
SiDisun-java6-jre is the best plugin but its not entirely open-source as far as i recall17:28
SiDiif you install it, make sure to remove openjdk-6-jre to avoid conflicts17:28
RonIn_which option should i disable in the storage tab in order to disable the mount of the device after i umounted it ?17:29
aaqilhow to remove openjdk-6? sudo apt-get remove ?17:29
SiDisudo apt-get autoremove17:30
ochosiRonIn_, try to disable the first to automount options (automount when hotplugged/inserted)17:30
ochosi+w17:30
aaqilSiDi, you typed full command bro? nothing next to that command?17:31
SiDisudo apt-get autoremove <packagename> ..17:31
SiDiso sudo apt-get autoremove openjdk-6-jre && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre17:31
evilbugmy friend boots up his computer, logs in, and every time he logs in his desktop load with no panels at all. how can that issue be solved?17:32
aaqilwhenever i restart xubuntu it resets my display settings :( then everytime i set my screen resolution17:33
SiDiaaqil: install drivers for your graphics card17:33
SiDicheck if there is anything listed in Apps -> System -> Hardware drivers17:34
aaqilbut it was fine at 8.1017:35
aaqilno drivers listed17:36
SiDiIntel GPU ?17:36
SiDiSome intel cards are having problems, it'll be solved in Karmic17:36
aaqilkarmic?17:36
aaqilupcoming xubuntu name?17:37
RonIn_evilbug: your friend had tried killing the xfce-panel ? (killall xfce-panel)17:37
evilbugRonIn_: nope, i'll tell him to do that now.17:38
RonIn_if it restarts without a problem maybe the xfce-panel isnt started at the beginning of the session17:39
aaqilSiDi, how to exit that java jre blue text screen, with title configuring jre 6 in the terminal17:41
aaqili pressed all keyboard buttons did with ctrl alt  v anf F and passed the screen17:43
SiDiyou have to press enter to accept the license agreement17:44
SiDior it wont install17:44
evilbugRonIn_: nothing happened.17:44
evilbugRonIn_: says no process has been stopped.17:47
RonIn_my bad... the actual command of killing the panel is killall xfce4-panel... afterward tell him to try to start it... xfce4-panel17:47
frenzy42is ubuntu forums down?17:56
frenzy42can anyone go to ubuntu forums?18:00
Ganondorf4frenzy42: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.ubuntuforums.org18:03
evilbugRonIn_: so the panel actually loaded but i tried it on my machine and when i close the terminal it says that the process it's running (xfce4-panel) will stop.18:12
evilbugRonIn_: so i'm guessing it'll be the same for my buddy. if that's the case, will everything be back to normal after he reboots or will he have to manually start xfce?18:12
RonIn_now if the panel started without any issues (after killing it) tell your friend to make sure that the program xfce4-panel its marked as to start inmediatly18:17
RonIn_immediatly in the session tab of session and startup18:17
evilbugRonIn_: yeah. will do. thanks.18:17
RonIn_if that doesnt do the job then the other approach left is to purge the package (aptitude purge xfce4-panel and then doing a clean install afterward)18:19
ron_ois it true that 32bit OSs can only see up to 3GB RAM, and you need a 64bit OS to see higher RAM?18:21
Ganondorf4by default yes, due to the way the system handles , but there are some workarounds18:31
DDaygoldi have a dell cpt with a rage mobility graphics card (based on mach64) and i would to be able to play videos, the videos i try to play now are very choppy18:50
SiDiDDaygold: if all the gstreamer (bad and ugly) plugins are installed, and if it lags with totem-gstreamer, try totem-xine or vlc :/18:53
Sarge_TJHello! I'm trying to install a new theme. I extract the tarball and move the extracted folder to /usr/share/themes/, but the theme isn't available at the appearance settings. What should I do? The same thing has happened with a few other themes too.18:53
SiDibut well, i used to not be able to play vids with my old rage pro...18:54
SiDiSarge_TJ: hello18:54
SiDiSarge_TJ: the .tar.gz file usually contains one folder named "ThemeName" that should contain a "gtk-2.0" or "xfwm4" folder18:54
SiDithis "ThemeName" folder should be put in /home/<yourusername>/.themes (notice the ".") if you want it available for you only18:55
SiDior in /usr/share/themes (you need sudo) for every user18:55
SiDiicon themes go in ~/.icons or /usr/share/icons18:55
SiDiand fonts in ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts18:55
SiDiSarge_TJ: no pms without asking please ;)18:58
SiDiSarge_TJ: did you check if it appears in "Window manager"  ?18:58
SiDiIt's where the themes for the windows are listed18:58
Sarge_TJOk, let's see...18:58
Sarge_TJOh, yes of course. And there it is!18:59
Sarge_TJThanks a lot SiDi!19:00
SiDiSarge_TJ: you're welcome19:00
DDaygoldSiDi, no flash videos work (and i want Hulu), thanks for the tip on vlc19:10
jaimwhat is the most minimal ubuntu-based distribution (i.e. that can still use ubuntu repos)?19:29
forcesubuntu19:30
jaimforces: are you drunk?19:32
forcesmaybe19:32
jaim:)19:33
jaimdefault xubuntu takes about 1.519:33
forcesinstall just the ubuntu base19:33
jaimi think default ubuntu takes like 219:33
forcesand you will have a minimalist ubuntu19:33
jaimyeah... i was hoping for a distro with cute tiny apps, like puppy, only ubuntu-based19:34
forceshttp://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=2009050419:35
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aacostaanyone know aobut the adams kernel for eeepc23:24

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