[00:05] <tlatelolco> hello. i'm with xfce and when i try to install ubuntu-desktop, it prompts "Depends : pulseaudio but shall not be installed". what's this? thank you
[00:15] <cjae> Hi, I am installing xubuntu on a friends box, what do I need to do to have the HP printer detected when they take it home, I do not have the printer here
[00:40] <SiDi> cjae: it worked out of the box for me
[00:40] <SiDi> HP C3100, plugged it and it was printing
[00:40] <SiDi> but the xsane app fails at spotting the scanner
[00:40] <SiDi> but "hp-scan -pPhotosmart-3100" was working great ;)
[00:41] <cjae> you have manually install xsane and tell it to use the scanner right
[01:29] <aacosta> i just did a fresh reinstall of xubuntu jaunty
[01:29] <aacosta> on my eeepc
[01:29] <aacosta> i hope it detects wireless automaticly
[01:29] <aacosta> ::crosses fingers
[01:30] <SiDi> i think it wont. proprietary driver
[01:30] <SiDi> the thing to do to install it is very simple afair
[01:30] <SiDi> but i dont remember it :|
[01:30] <SiDi> !eee
[01:30] <knome> array.org/ubuntu
[01:31] <duckwars> hello
[01:31] <aacosta> the reason
[01:31] <aacosta> i reintaled
[01:31] <aacosta> was becasue i had installed the array.org kernel
[01:31] <aacosta> except after a day the wireless stopped working
[01:32] <duckwars> can anyone point me to a good article on turning an xunbuntu machine into a vnc server?
[02:36] <aacosta> how can i get wireless working on xubuntu on eeepc
[02:36] <aacosta> an alternative to the array.org kernel
[03:40] <aacosta> i just downoaded the array.rg kernel
[03:40] <aacosta> so that my eeepc would be able ot get nlne
[03:40] <aacosta> but no luj
[03:40] <aacosta> luck
[03:40] <aacosta> anyone got any tips
[03:51] <homebrewcider> hey all, upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04, but the network icon down the bottom right hand corner is saying I'm not connected when clearly I am.
[04:32] <aacosta> anyone know whats up with the array.org kernel?
[05:03] <DDaygold> i have a ati rage mobility chip but i cant get videos to run without skipping any ideas?
[05:12] <R1cochet> is there a gnutella network client for linux?
[05:38] <jpb> I'm having issues booting to live cd...  tty terminates, respawns, and stops.  How do I proceed?
[05:47] <chrissy> hello i have a question
[05:47] <R1cochet> jpb: tty?
[05:48] <R1cochet> chrissy: ask and someone should answer in time
[05:49] <jpb> it runs through tty1-9 with the same output for each.  init: tty x Main process terminated with status 2
[05:49] <knome> jpb, have you tried the alternate cd?
[05:49] <jpb> where x=the tty#
[05:49] <chrissy> when i installed xubuntu i had status bars now i dont
[05:50] <chrissy> what happen
[05:50] <jpb> can i boot live cd before install on the alternate?
[05:50] <knome> chrissy, what do you mean by status bars?
[05:50] <knome> !alternate | jpb
[05:51] <chrissy> up at top internet, applactions, wifi status
[05:51] <jpb> fairly new to linux and want to make sure it's at least usable before I go full install (wifey wouldn't be happy if her compy was down for an extended time!)
[05:51] <chrissy> now i have nothing at top
[05:51] <knome> chrissy, do you have the bottom panel left?
[05:52] <chrissy> no i do not
[05:52] <knome> chrissy, alt+f2 > xfce4-pnal
[05:52] <knome> chrissy, see if that helps.
[05:52] <knome> *xfce4-panel
[05:52] <knome> gosh that was a nasty typo
[05:53] <chrissy> i typed that in terminal and it said there was no file
[05:53] <knome> xfce4-panel ?
[05:53] <chrissy> yes
[05:53] <knome> can you paste the error message as it appeared
[05:53] <knome> if it's multiline, use pastebin
[05:54] <knome> !pastebin
[05:54] <chrissy> there was no error message
[05:54] <jpb> how do i install from the alternate?
[05:54] <knome> chrissy, you said you got a message that there was no file
[05:54] <chrissy> that is all it said
[05:55] <chrissy> let me try it right now
[05:55] <knome> jpb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20using%20the%20Alternate%20CD
[05:55] <jpb> thank you!
[05:56] <knome> jpb, hmm, those apply for old versions. anyway, it is quite striaghtforward and you will get assistance during the installation.
[05:57] <jpb> any idea why the tty problems would crop up?  related to monitor issues?
[05:57] <knome> jpb, most possibly. so you can't see a desktop at all?
[05:58] <knome> jpb, you might actually want to try the safe graphics mode with the live cd first.
[05:58] <jpb> nope.  it gets partway thru the splash screen bar and then freezes.  it then kicks out to the readout i posted
[05:59] <knome> jpb, so do you even see this stage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Install2StartUp.png ?
[06:00] <chrissy> ok when i typed it they showed up
[06:00] <chrissy> but when i closed terminal they disappered
[06:01] <knome> chrissy, yes, you have to start the app with alt+f2
[06:01] <jpb> knome, i do.  i use "try xubuntu without changes" or whatever it is... and get the splash bar
[06:01] <knome> jpb, ok, try pressing F4(?) and select the safe graphics mode
[06:01] <chrissy> so do i close this chat or can i try it
[06:01] <chrissy> with this open
[06:02] <knome> chrissy, you can try it with this open.
[06:02] <chrissy> ok i will try
[06:02] <knome> chrissy, alt+f2, type xfce4-panel and press run.
[06:03] <jpb> thanks for the help.  I'll give it a shot.  for now probably best that i wait til tomorrow to try it so i get some sleep 2nite.
[06:03] <knome> jpb, okay, good night and good luck. :)
[06:03] <jpb> thx.  hopefully i won't be back - at least on this issue...
[06:03] <knome> ;)
[06:04] <chrissy> ok great that worked
[06:05] <chrissy> now when i log off i check save secessions right
[06:06] <chrissy> knome you still there
[06:48] <aacosta> ello
[06:48] <aacosta> anyonee got any information on the adams kernel?
[07:25] <intok> hello?
[07:26] <forces> ?
[07:27] <knome> !hi | intok
[07:27] <intok> You know if Qimo will ever release a new version? It's a modified Xubuntu for young kids
[07:28] <knome> no idea. never heard of it.
[07:30] <intok> http://www.qimo4kids.com/
[07:30] <knome> you'd have to ask the qimo team, not the xubuntu team
[07:30] <intok> have to check again, but I think it's based on 8.10
[07:33] <intok> no answer on the email, no irc chan and no forum...
[07:51] <knome> intok, still, the xubuntu team can't help you in this. sorry.
[07:51] <knome> intok, we are no way affiliated with them, they just base their system on ours.
[09:54] <mio1> can xubuntu be installed on a system without cd-rom or usb boot?
[10:10] <Araneidae> Does xfce decide which screen a newly launched application opens on?
[10:11] <Araneidae> Normally my apps open on the screen where my cursor is resting, suits me on the whole
[10:11] <Araneidae>  but one app has suddenly started opening in the wrong screen.  Has xfce suddenly decided to look after it for me?
[10:35] <TheSheep> Araneidae: some aplications remember that on themselves
[10:43] <Araneidae> Don't think that's the case this time ... but trying to check
[11:14] <FelineMonstrosit> Hi. Is there any way to edit the image/sound I get at startup?
[11:23] <TheSheep> FelineMonstrosit: yes, in the login window settings, under 'system'
[11:24] <FelineMonstrosit> Cool, thanks
[11:55] <FelineMonstrosit> How easy is it for me to create my own login screen? (Basically if I have a picture and want to make it the background)
[13:26] <mib486> hi, ive installed xubuntu alternate on my old laptop and GRUB won't work, so i want to start up with LILO: i run an ubuntu live cd in order to root into xubuntu with ubuntu to substitute GRUB to LILO, i am operating root into the system now, how do i do? dunno the commands, could someone help me step by step? (the guide i followed only arrived till here and im a newbie :D)
[14:10] <aaqil> http://valentine.viviti.com/entries/linux/easy-way-to-record-linux-desktop-movie-as-gif-animation   I am unable to use in in Xubuntu, I have installed but unable to add in my panel
[14:11] <SiDi> Use xfapplet to can add gnome applets to xubuntu
[14:11] <vinnl> aaqil, that's because that application isn't made for the Xubuntu panel. It is possible to do it, but it's heavier on performance
[14:11] <SiDi> or use gtk-recordmydesktop :p
[14:12] <vinnl> aaqil, do you definitely want a GIF file as a result? Otherwise I would also recommend recordmydesktop
[14:12] <aaqil> yes I want gif
[14:12] <aaqil> because
[14:12] <aaqil> gif word is close to the word gf
[14:12] <vinnl> Then you'll have to install xfapplet and add that to the panel
[14:12] <aaqil> i like gf word
[14:12] <vinnl> Ehm right
[14:12] <vinnl> !info xfapplet
[14:12] <aaqil> vinnl, command for xfapplet?
[14:13] <vinnl> Hmm, let me see
[14:13] <SiDi> sudo apt-get install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin
[14:13] <vinnl> That's the one
[14:13] <vinnl> To install it, then right-click the panel and add xfapplet
[14:14] <aaqil> what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude
[14:15] <SiDi> They dont manage packages the same way
[14:15] <vinnl> They're different applications with the same purpose
[14:15] <SiDi> if you use the Add/Remove window or if you already used apt-get stay on it
[14:15] <SiDi> either, use aptitude
[14:16] <aaqil> wao wao wao I have added
[14:16] <aaqil> Thank you all :)
[14:16] <vinnl> yw ^.^
[14:19] <aaqil> its fun :D
[14:38] <aaqil> network monitor speed limiting is not working
[14:41] <aaqil> What to do If I want to limit my internet speed, so that IF i am downloading files it will not take all my network speed and other network users will remain happy
[14:43] <SiDi> !qos
[14:43] <SiDi> oh
[14:44] <SiDi> checkout for wondershaper or iptables
[14:44] <SiDi> or google qos + ubuntu
[14:44] <SiDi> there is no doc on the official wiki apparently
[14:46] <aaqil> which is easy to setup specially with GUI (without commands)
[14:47] <SiDi> QoS settings is typically what you do with servers and routers, usually without GUI :D
[14:48] <aaqil>  :(
[14:48] <aaqil> I do not know those things
[14:48] <aaqil> ok, which is simple to setup?
[14:49] <SiDi> I dont know, i never used any
[14:49] <SiDi> according to the french wiki, wondershaper does this easily
[14:52] <aaqil> whois sidi
[14:53] <aaqil> \whois sidi
[14:53] <aaqil> :D
[14:54] <SiDi> I'm Steve Dodier.
[14:55] <SiDi> channels : #exaile #xubuntu-devel #xubuntu #winehq-social #winehq #ubuntu-website #ubuntu-desktop #ubuntu-artwork #reztorrent #ayatana
[14:55] <SiDi> end of WHOIS...
[14:55] <aaqil> i did not get PM of my whois i am on xchat
[14:58] <aaqil> i shall come back later with more questions, Thanks sidi and all for help see u
[17:06] <aaqil> any application to upload flickr photos?
 I finally got dual monitors working last night - I had to use xrandr and edit my xorg.conf to have the max virtual display size of 2048x2048. Thats all fine. However, because the max size is that small, my moitors can't be "right-of" or "left-of" each other, I have to have X think they are on top of each other (which works). Is there a way to make it so when my mouse goes off the right of the screen it gets pushed to the other monitor even though it
[17:08] <Xuzz> is "top-
 of"?
[17:08] <Xuzz> any ideas?
[17:09] <Xuzz> my monitors are 1200x800 to the physical left of 1280x1024
[17:09] <SiDi> No idea, sorry :/
[17:11] <ochosi> Xuzz, how come you have a total resolution of 2048x2048, shouldn't it be 2480x1024?
[17:12] <ochosi> Xuzz, also: why is the max virtual display size that small?
[17:13] <Xuzz> because a) I want compiz and b) my gfx chip is a GMA950
[17:14] <Xuzz> according to the wiki on that chip the max 3d canvas size is 2048x2048
[17:16] <ochosi> Xuzz, alright, so you want 3d accelleration
[17:16] <Xuzz> yes
[17:17] <ochosi> Xuzz, but then it's clear that you can only align your monitors vertically - unless you want to let your displays use something else than their native resolution
[17:18] <Xuzz> I'm asking about if it was possible to have X like "move" the mouse if I moved it off the right to move it down onto the other screen
[17:18] <ochosi> Xuzz, and since that's the case i'd say you're stuck with one display on top of the other. (maybe there are some dirty compiz hacks for multiple displays, but none that i know about)
[17:18] <Xuzz> ok, I'm going to try to see if I can write a python script to do what I want
[17:18] <ochosi> Xuzz, yeah, as far as i heard compiz is good with scripts
[17:20] <Xuzz> from what I can tell so far compiz is just good in general, no effort to set up, worked with just installing the packages...
[17:20] <litlebuda> hi all does anyone knows why a usb disk gets umounted and remounted randomly ?
[17:24] <RonIn_> i've been experiencing the same thing... even after i umount a usb disk minutes later it gets mounted without any interaction by me or any program Im using
[17:25] <ochosi> RonIn_, litlebuda try to change your setting in thunar's volume-manager, which is in control of automount
[17:26] <litlebuda> ochosi, where is that please ?
[17:26] <litlebuda> herrm
[17:26] <litlebuda> never mind
[17:26] <litlebuda> ill search
[17:26] <litlebuda> :)
[17:26] <ochosi> litlebuda, thunar > edit > preferences > advanced
[17:27] <aaqil> h
[17:27] <aaqil> ho
[17:27] <aaqil> how to install java environment for browser and applications?
[17:28] <SiDi> !java
[17:28] <SiDi> sun-java6-jre is the best plugin but its not entirely open-source as far as i recall
[17:28] <SiDi> if you install it, make sure to remove openjdk-6-jre to avoid conflicts
[17:29] <RonIn_> which option should i disable in the storage tab in order to disable the mount of the device after i umounted it ?
[17:29] <aaqil> how to remove openjdk-6? sudo apt-get remove ?
[17:30] <SiDi> sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:30] <ochosi> RonIn_, try to disable the first to automount options (automount when hotplugged/inserted)
[17:30] <ochosi> +w
[17:31] <aaqil> SiDi, you typed full command bro? nothing next to that command?
[17:31] <SiDi> sudo apt-get autoremove <packagename> ..
[17:31] <SiDi> so sudo apt-get autoremove openjdk-6-jre && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[17:32] <evilbug> my friend boots up his computer, logs in, and every time he logs in his desktop load with no panels at all. how can that issue be solved?
[17:33] <aaqil> whenever i restart xubuntu it resets my display settings :( then everytime i set my screen resolution
[17:33] <SiDi> aaqil: install drivers for your graphics card
[17:34] <SiDi> check if there is anything listed in Apps -> System -> Hardware drivers
[17:35] <aaqil> but it was fine at 8.10
[17:36] <aaqil> no drivers listed
[17:36] <SiDi> Intel GPU ?
[17:36] <SiDi> Some intel cards are having problems, it'll be solved in Karmic
[17:36] <aaqil> karmic?
[17:37] <aaqil> upcoming xubuntu name?
[17:37] <RonIn_> evilbug: your friend had tried killing the xfce-panel ? (killall xfce-panel)
[17:38] <evilbug> RonIn_: nope, i'll tell him to do that now.
[17:39] <RonIn_> if it restarts without a problem maybe the xfce-panel isnt started at the beginning of the session
[17:41] <aaqil> SiDi, how to exit that java jre blue text screen, with title configuring jre 6 in the terminal
[17:43] <aaqil> i pressed all keyboard buttons did with ctrl alt  v anf F and passed the screen
[17:44] <SiDi> you have to press enter to accept the license agreement
[17:44] <SiDi> or it wont install
[17:44] <evilbug> RonIn_: nothing happened.
[17:47] <evilbug> RonIn_: says no process has been stopped.
[17:47] <RonIn_> my bad... the actual command of killing the panel is killall xfce4-panel... afterward tell him to try to start it... xfce4-panel
[17:56] <frenzy42> is ubuntu forums down?
[18:00] <frenzy42> can anyone go to ubuntu forums?
[18:03] <Ganondorf4> frenzy42: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.ubuntuforums.org
[18:12] <evilbug> RonIn_: so the panel actually loaded but i tried it on my machine and when i close the terminal it says that the process it's running (xfce4-panel) will stop.
[18:12] <evilbug> RonIn_: so i'm guessing it'll be the same for my buddy. if that's the case, will everything be back to normal after he reboots or will he have to manually start xfce?
[18:17] <RonIn_> now if the panel started without any issues (after killing it) tell your friend to make sure that the program xfce4-panel its marked as to start inmediatly
[18:17] <RonIn_> immediatly in the session tab of session and startup
[18:17] <evilbug> RonIn_: yeah. will do. thanks.
[18:19] <RonIn_> if that doesnt do the job then the other approach left is to purge the package (aptitude purge xfce4-panel and then doing a clean install afterward)
[18:21] <ron_o> is it true that 32bit OSs can only see up to 3GB RAM, and you need a 64bit OS to see higher RAM?
[18:31] <Ganondorf4> by default yes, due to the way the system handles , but there are some workarounds
[18:50] <DDaygold> i have a dell cpt with a rage mobility graphics card (based on mach64) and i would to be able to play videos, the videos i try to play now are very choppy
[18:53] <SiDi> DDaygold: if all the gstreamer (bad and ugly) plugins are installed, and if it lags with totem-gstreamer, try totem-xine or vlc :/
[18:53] <Sarge_TJ> Hello! I'm trying to install a new theme. I extract the tarball and move the extracted folder to /usr/share/themes/, but the theme isn't available at the appearance settings. What should I do? The same thing has happened with a few other themes too.
[18:54] <SiDi> but well, i used to not be able to play vids with my old rage pro...
[18:54] <SiDi> Sarge_TJ: hello
[18:54] <SiDi> Sarge_TJ: the .tar.gz file usually contains one folder named "ThemeName" that should contain a "gtk-2.0" or "xfwm4" folder
[18:55] <SiDi> this "ThemeName" folder should be put in /home/<yourusername>/.themes (notice the ".") if you want it available for you only
[18:55] <SiDi> or in /usr/share/themes (you need sudo) for every user
[18:55] <SiDi> icon themes go in ~/.icons or /usr/share/icons
[18:55] <SiDi> and fonts in ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts
[18:58] <SiDi> Sarge_TJ: no pms without asking please ;)
[18:58] <SiDi> Sarge_TJ: did you check if it appears in "Window manager"  ?
[18:58] <SiDi> It's where the themes for the windows are listed
[18:58] <Sarge_TJ> Ok, let's see...
[18:59] <Sarge_TJ> Oh, yes of course. And there it is!
[19:00] <Sarge_TJ> Thanks a lot SiDi!
[19:00] <SiDi> Sarge_TJ: you're welcome
[19:10] <DDaygold> SiDi, no flash videos work (and i want Hulu), thanks for the tip on vlc
[19:29] <jaim> what is the most minimal ubuntu-based distribution (i.e. that can still use ubuntu repos)?
[19:30] <forces> ubuntu
[19:32] <jaim> forces: are you drunk?
[19:32] <forces> maybe
[19:33] <jaim> :)
[19:33] <jaim> default xubuntu takes about 1.5
[19:33] <forces> install just the ubuntu base
[19:33] <jaim> i think default ubuntu takes like 2
[19:33] <forces> and you will have a minimalist ubuntu
[19:34] <jaim> yeah... i was hoping for a distro with cute tiny apps, like puppy, only ubuntu-based
[19:35] <forces> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090504
[23:24] <aacosta> anyone know aobut the adams kernel for eeepc