[00:04] <AndorinKato> Ok, now she and I are going to struggle through compiling and installing.
[00:09] <AndorinKato> Ok, help!
[00:55] <mubu> Hey guys is there any command or way to know what version of an application i have installed (i didnt install it through synaptic).? Im interested in know what version of AWN (avant window manager) I am running. Thanks
[00:56] <Eternal_Sin> hi everyone
[00:57] <gunslinger_> wewwwww
[01:11] <fuzz579> hi I am trying to install kdebase-workspace-dev
[01:12] <Eternal_Sin> what's the problem?
[01:12] <fuzz579> and I am getting the following error: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkephal.so', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin
[01:12] <fuzz579> is tis the right place to ask for help?
[01:13] <Eternal_Sin> your problem is with kde
[01:13] <Eternal_Sin> try with #kde
[01:13] <fuzz579> ok thanks
[01:13] <Eternal_Sin> your wellcome
[01:18] <fuzz579> I just asked there and they told me to come here (it is a probleme with dpkg)
[01:22] <AndorinKato> Any idea why a fresh install of Kubuntu would not have Adept on it?
[01:23] <AndorinKato> Because my friend and I are about ready to murder her computer.
[01:32] <shumba> hi every1 - I'm trying to connect usb drive in virtualBox, anyone know how I can  do that?
[01:34] <shumba> hallo-o-0-o! anybody home?
[01:34] <Nielsen> i didnt know virtualBox could do usb disks
[01:34] <bazhang> shumba, which vbox? the -ose or the other
[01:34] <shumba> the manual says they can but does not say how in useful detail
[01:34] <bazhang> shumba, the -ose does not support usb
[01:35] <bazhang> ie the one from the repos
[01:35] <bazhang> !info virtualbox-ose
[01:36] <shumba> im using the ose mayb that answers the question cause I can't figure how to access other areas of my storage
[01:36] <bazhang> you need to install the one from their website
[01:37] <shumba> thanks a lot guys you've saved me hours of research
[01:38] <bazhang> you're welcome :)
[01:40] <shumba> ... i fail to see how the binaries from virtualBox are different from the packaged ones
[01:47] <will__> Can someone tell me the comline for installing Amarok2?
[01:48] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install amarok  will__
[01:48] <will__> Thank you.
[01:48] <will__> And in return.
[01:48] <bazhang> assuming you are on Jaunty
[01:48] <will__> Nah.
[01:48] <will__> Wait.
[01:48] <will__> No, i am in Intrepid.
[01:48] <will__> But anyway.
[01:48] <bazhang> lsb_release -a
[01:48] <FloodBotK1> will__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:48] <will__> As a joke.
[01:48] <bazhang> that won't do it then
[01:49] <will__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHv3qO_Y8kk
[01:49] <bazhang> will__, don't post that here
[01:49] <will__> I have used that line before in Intrepid.
[01:49] <will__> Oh, sorry.
[01:49] <bazhang> !ot | will__
[01:49] <bazhang> that is the chat channel
[01:49] <will__> Nice to know.
[01:49] <will__> Thank you.
[01:49] <bazhang> np
[01:50] <will__> BTW.
[01:50] <will__> Do i have to have any sources active to install from that arch?
[01:50] <bazhang> there maybe a way to install ver.2 in intrepid, let me check
[01:51] <will__> Could possibly be something like update amarok.
[01:51] <will__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[01:53] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntu.org/amarok2-beta2 this seems to be a bit out of date, but the most relevant I could find atm
[01:53] <bazhang> need to enable a PPA
[01:55] <will__> sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[01:55] <will__> Found it.
[01:55] <will__> But yeah.
[01:55] <will__> I found it.
[01:56] <will__> Thank you bazhang.
[02:10] <r3db0x> anyone happen to know why after setting my date and time to be done automatically it doesnt stick?
[02:11] <p_quarles> r3db0x: changing the date/time requires root, and systemsettings does a terrible job of telling you this currently
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> r3db0x- nope, but if you find out, let me know
[02:12] <p_quarles> r3db0x: kdesudo systemsettings -- then look for the settings you want to correct
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> p_quarles- no, it does ask for a password, it just doesn't keep the setting
[02:14] <r3db0x> p_quarles: i have already made the changes in system settings many times
[02:14] <p_quarles> r3db0x: did you run systemsettings as root?
[02:15] <r3db0x> i put in my passwd just like i do for other changes i make
[02:15] <r3db0x> could i make the change via command line?
[02:15] <p_quarles> yes, but if you run all of systemsettings with kdesudo instead of normally, the permissions issues in systemsettings won't thwart you
[02:17] <r3db0x> p_quarles: i ran kdesudo systemsettings made the change and then closed out the system settings.  went back and it still didnt stick
[02:17] <p_quarles> r3db0x: well, you can always install and configure ntpdate to accomplish the same thing
[02:18] <r3db0x> true i was just curious if it was a known issue or if I had something wierd happening here
[02:19] <p_quarles> everyone seems to be having some kind of issue with that module; whether it's kubuntu-specific or upstream I don't know
[02:20] <r3db0x> fair enough....i will just wait and see if it gets resolved down the road.
[02:30] <origin> If I use ssh -X to connect to another account that has KDE apps. How would I let those KDE apps popup notifications on my normal account (I presume though knotify, so can knotify be configured to allow other users to... notify it?)
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> origin- that shouldn't be specific to Kubuntu, so if nobody here can help you with it, you might also try #kde
[02:33] <origin> Ohh okay, thanks. =)
[02:33] <origin> Sorry for asking in the wrong chanel
[02:39] <AndorinKato> Out of absolutely random curiosity, is anyone active in here atm?
[02:40] <Dragnslcr> Heh, don't worry, I wasn't trying to get rid of you, just trying to point you to another place that might be able to help better
[02:51] <wangyuan> hello evrey one
[03:03] <crxyem> anyone awake ?
[03:26] <rondi> thanks
[03:29] <rondi> a aulgunn ai:
[03:30] <bazhang> !br | rondi
[03:31] <rondi> ok
[03:33] <Serpardum> can dragon player not play commercial DVDs?
[03:33] <bazhang> do you have the package from medibuntu.org ? libdvdcss2
[03:33] <Serpardum> I don't know.
[03:33] <Serpardum> let me check
[03:34] <bazhang> instructions on the site, no need to enable the repos
[03:34] <Serpardum> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:34] <Serpardum> I put a dvd in yesterday, I could watch the previews, but not the movie
[03:35] <Serpardum> now I put a dvd in and it sigfaults
[03:35] <bazhang> perhaps try another player, after adding the package from medibuntu.org
[03:37] <will__> Can someone tell me how to remove Mic from capture in ALSA?
[03:39] <Serpardum> installed libdvdcss2 and dragon player still sigfaulting.  hmm. I wonder if realplayer will play it
[03:50] <CPrgmSwR2> HI
[04:21] <fg56xfd> One of my programs is too tall to fit on my screen, and when i try to resize it, it only lets me adjust the width of it. Ive tried reinstalling the program and it didnt help. How can i fix this?
[04:32] <brian_> hey everytime i goto  and download new plasmid widget from the list i get a error saying cant download
[04:34] <brian_> it will say installation of .... widget failed
[04:56] <gunslinger_> hello all
[05:02] <afeijo> nooo not netsplit
[05:04] <SirMoo> Anyone around able to provide a little support?
[05:19] <Serpardum> How can I eject my DVD player if there's no DVD in it?  Normally I go to dolphin, right click, Eject.  But since there's no disk in there I don't see it in dolphin.  Pressing the button on the computer doesn't work.  Do I have to manually mount the CDRom just so I can eject it?
[05:22] <Serpardum> I tried: eject /dev/cdrom, no result.  I tried sudo mount /media/cdrom /dev/cdrom  but got error it's not a block device.  wth
[05:36] <Serpardum> GAH, can't play any of hte movies I rented.
[05:36] <Serpardum> they work in windows media player, but I dn't ahve that on this linux box
[05:37] <bazhang> what about others such as vlc
[05:46] <Daskreech> ok nvidia killed the Windowing star
[05:47] <Daskreech> and Yes I am singing that exactly as you think I am
[05:47] <Daskreech> Anyone want to try and debork a nvidia screwup?
[05:53] <gunslinger_> crazyyy'
[05:53] <Daskreech> mebbe
[06:37] <AndorinKato> Hi, can someone help me with wireless trouble?
[06:40] <Daskreech> what's the trouble?
[06:41] <AndorinKato> I'm on the phone with my friend who is trying to get wireless working on Kubuntu Jaunty. We've been working at it all day and haven't gotten it to work. She's just installed the latest madwifi driver but it isn't working.
[06:41] <AndorinKato> Her wireless card is D-link WDA 1320 and is supposed to work 'out of the box' with Ubuntu.
[06:42] <AndorinKato> After compiling the drivers and loading the module, and after a reboot, ifconfig and iwconfig still will not display anything for wireless.
[06:55] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: The module shows up in lsmod ?
[06:56] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Yes.
[06:57] <Daskreech> what does sudo ifconfig -a say ?
[06:58] <AndorinKato> It only has eth0, lo and pan0.
[07:05] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Hrrm what driver is being used?
[07:07] <fg56xfd> One of my programs is too tall to fit on my screen, and when i try to resize it, it only lets me adjust the width of it. Ive tried reinstalling the program and it didnt help. How can i fix this?
[07:09] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Latest madwifi. 0.9.4
[07:09] <Daskreech> fg56xfd: hold down alt and right click drag it down it should resize it
[07:10] <fg56xfd> Daskreech: When i do that It still only lets me ajust the width.
[07:10] <Daskreech> fg56xfd: use a less annoying program?
[07:11] <fg56xfd> Daskreech: There isnt a good alternative to it.
[07:12] <Daskreech> fg56xfd: Get a higher resolution monitor/video card combo
[07:12] <fg56xfd> Daskreech: Thats hardly a good work-around for it at all.
[07:13] <CoJaBo-Aztec> fg56xfd: What program is it?
[07:13] <fg56xfd> CoJaBo-Aztec: Ardour.
[07:13] <Daskreech> fg56xfd: If it's an open source app then get the source and tweak teh size down to suit yourself
[07:13] <Daskreech> Otherwise complain to the guys who made it
[07:14] <CoJaBo-Aztec> IMHO there should be a window manager feature to force it to a smaller size.
[07:14] <CoJaBo-Aztec> (Compiz has a shrink window, tho its buggy :/ )
[07:14] <Daskreech> There probably is unless it set a absolute min size
[07:15] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Problem is some apps set a min size bigger than screen res o_O
[07:15] <fg56xfd> I didnt have this problem with it when i used it on KDE3.
[07:17] <AndorinKato> Can anyone help?
[07:21] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Any ideas?
[07:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> AndorinKato: ?
[07:22] <AndorinKato> Well, you last asked my driver version, after all.
[07:22] <Daskreech> !wifi
[07:22] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: check those
[07:23] <CoJaBo-Aztec> AndorinKato: Also doubble and triple check that the wifi card is enabled in the bios, and the wifi switch is on.
[07:24] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Ah the wifi switch does she have that on?
[07:24] <AndorinKato> CoJaBo-Aztec: Apparently there is no section in her BIOS for enabling that.
[07:25] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Look for a kill switch
[07:25] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Madwifi info on that link might help; however she does not have a wifi switch, so she sayas.
[07:25] <AndorinKato> says
[07:26] <Daskreech> ok
[07:26] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Not all computers have one (tho on ones that do, it is usually well hidden, in a place likely to be bumped lol)
[07:27] <AndorinKato> Fyi, she went to sleep now, but I can probably answer basic questions since I was working with her practically all day.
[07:27] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: ok has the wifi ever worked?
[07:28] <AndorinKato> With a different hard drive, she ran Windows 7 beta and the wireless worked. The connection died a lot, though, without a proper driver for it.
[07:29] <Daskreech> No kill switch or anything ?
[07:29] <AndorinKato> Not as far as she knows. I'd imagine that she'd know if there were one on there considering that she works fairly extensively with her computers.
[07:30] <Daskreech> Ok great. So she loaded up Ubuntu and it loaded the driver?
[07:31] <AndorinKato> It recognizes that the driver is installed, and apparently recognizes the module (as you asked us to look into) but wireless continues to be unavailable.
[07:33] <AndorinKato> Her wireless card is a D-link WDA 1320 with an Atheros chipset, which is what madwifi is supposed to support.
[07:34] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: you said that it was supported then you said you had to compile. did it load the supported driver?
[07:34] <AndorinKato> When?
[07:36] <Daskreech> When you first loaded up before deciding to compile
[07:37] <AndorinKato> When Kubuntu was first installed, you mean?
[07:37] <Daskreech> Yes
[07:37] <AndorinKato> I'm not sure. I assume that it didn't because we're having wireless trouble in the first place.
[07:37] <Daskreech> >_>
[07:37] <Daskreech> Would have been nice to check that first.
[07:38] <Daskreech> in any case. you have installed a new driver. is it not loading the default driver now so that you don't have two of them running?
[07:38] <AndorinKato> I'm relatively new to the workings of Linux.
[07:39] <AndorinKato> Is it possible to have multiple drivers installed at the same time for the same hardware?
[07:39] <Daskreech> Yes
[07:39] <Daskreech> Unless they are on a conflict list
[07:39] <AndorinKato> I see.
[07:39] <AndorinKato> Would it impede performance if this were the case?
[07:40] <Daskreech> Which is likely but then madwifi is a wrapper of sorts. It's supposed to conflict with a whole list of things but lets just say for some reasons it may not
[07:40] <AndorinKato> Okay.
[07:40] <Daskreech> maybe Most likely you would get more devices than actually exist
[07:41] <AndorinKato> Right now she is at a point where she can reinstall Kubuntu at a whim. Do you recommend this and attempting to get the default driver to function before using any others?
[07:42] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: well if it's supposed to work I think it's probably supposed to work.
[07:42] <AndorinKato> The question being, of course, why it isn't.
[07:43] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Since it's a much lower level than the De you can get help here and in #ubuntu if you like which ever is more helpful at the moment
[07:43] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Right which is why I wanted to know if it loaded the driver at all when you first installed
[07:43] <AndorinKato> How do you check whether it did?
[07:43] <Daskreech> Though really just running the Live CD should answer that
[07:43] <Daskreech> lsmod | grep driver_me
[07:44]  * AndorinKato writes that down
[07:44] <Daskreech> drivername
[07:44] <Daskreech> sorry :)
[07:44] <AndorinKato> Oh, okay.
[07:45] <AndorinKato> Being the name of the default driver?
[07:45] <Daskreech> Right whatever that's supposed to be I don't have a Dlink so I don't know but !wifi should tell you at least
[07:45] <Daskreech> !wifi
[07:47] <noaXess> hi all
[07:48] <Daskreech> !Hi  | noaXess
[07:48] <noaXess> if i print any pdf in okular then the output on a normal A4 paper is resized, smaller then the original.. i can't see where the problem is..
[07:48] <noaXess> if i do this: cupsdoprint -P ISC2020 -H localhost:631 -o Copies=1,Orientation=Portrait file.pdf then the print is as the original.. A4
[07:49] <noaXess> hey Daskreech :)
[07:49] <AndorinKato> Mm, I'm not seeing anything that tells me the default drivers for devices.
[07:49] <noaXess> have allready deleted the okular rc files in /home/user/.kde/share/config
[07:50] <AndorinKato> Closest I can find is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros since her D-link has an Atheros chipset.
[07:50] <AndorinKato> Talks about an "ath5k module" in the beginning.
[07:51] <Daskreech> ok then you should be looking for lsmod | grep ath
[07:51] <AndorinKato> Ok.
[07:52] <AndorinKato> So let's imagine that it does load the default driver upon installation. What can we do to figure out how to enable the wireless?
[07:53] <Daskreech> well if it's loading the driver but not the wireless things get geekier but you can ask help from there
[07:54] <AndorinKato> Okay.
[07:54] <AndorinKato> And in the event that it's not loading, we can go ahead with the madwifi?
[07:54] <AndorinKato> Or try to fix it so that it does load?
[07:54] <Daskreech> If it's not loading then you can probably just do the madwifi since that probably has a lot more documentation
[07:55] <AndorinKato> M'kay.
[07:55] <Daskreech> if you want to you can get some help to try load it.
[07:55] <AndorinKato> Would we want to uninstall the default driver first?
[07:55] <Daskreech> Well if  it's loading and not working and you want to do madwifi youmay want to blacklist it
[07:56] <AndorinKato> Alright.
[07:57] <AndorinKato> So basically just examine the default driver and go from there.
[07:58] <Daskreech> yeah I've had to do some intersting things in the past like blacklist the default driver and load a secondary as it conflicted with some PCMIA controller
[08:00] <AndorinKato> Ok. Thanks a lot for your assistance. :)
[08:43] <dwidmann> wow is it ever quiet in here this morning
[09:15] <andresaguso> some 1 here?
[09:15] <andresaguso> btw hi there :P
[09:17] <andresaguso> i like to know if someone make to work some bluetooth headset with the kde manager
[09:26] <nemo_> mmm
[09:33] <SirMoo> So what are the four blocked updates?
[09:35] <dragger> hello, when i try to disable service i disabled one but i don't know what is it, my pc restared then when it on Login screen keyboard and mouse Stop responed
[09:37] <dwidmann> dragger: sounds like you might want to un-disable that one hehe
[09:37] <SirMoo> XD
[09:38] <dragger> i tried to disable apache but by mistake i clicked on system ............
[09:38] <dragger> No my keyboard and mouse stops
[09:39] <dragger> on login screen
[09:40] <dwidmann> dragger: reboot with the recovery option, install sysv-rc-conf, and start un-disabling things (whatever it is probably would need to run on 2,3,4, and 5)
[09:53] <hanhan> hello
[09:54] <hanhan> i want to ask everyone
[09:54] <hanhan> hello
[09:54] <svenxy> ask what?
[09:55] <hanhan> for asterisk
[09:55] <hanhan> have error
[09:56] <hanhan> about lib termcap
[09:56] <hanhan> please
[09:59] <svenxy> where is your actual question?
[10:01] <hanhan> i'am setting system asterisk
[10:01] <hanhan> but
[10:01] <hanhan> have error
[10:01] <svenxy> what do you mean by "setting system asterisk"?
[10:01] <hanhan> not setup
[10:01] <hanhan> hic
[10:01] <svenxy> what is the exact error message you get?
[10:01] <dragger> cannot run database abstraction layer
[10:02] <hanhan> configure: error: *** termcap support not found
[10:02] <svenxy> @hanhan - you mean that you are trying to compile asterisk?
[10:02] <hanhan> please svenxy
[10:03] <tsimpson> you need libncurses5-dev for libtermcap.so
[10:04] <hanhan> i used kubuntu8.10
[10:05] <svenxy> @hanhan - I don't have knowledge about asterisk, but might be able to help you with installing it
[10:05] <hanhan> oh
[10:05] <hanhan> yes
[10:06] <hanhan> thank you
[10:06] <svenxy> but unless I missed it before, you did not tell us what exactly you are trying to do and what the EXACT error message was
[10:06] <tsimpson> asterisk is in the repositories, use that
[10:06] <tsimpson> !info asterisk intrepid
[10:06] <svenxy> tsimpson is completely right
[10:07] <svenxy> don't try to compile unless you have to
[10:08] <hanhan> thanks
[10:09] <hanhan> i had setup complet
[10:35] <|bb7|> hi, i removed packge network-manager. I've now lot my network connection. I edited /etc/network/interfaces and manually configured a static ip. BUt it does not work
[10:36] <svenxy> what does "/sbin/ip a s" say?
[10:37] <svenxy> can you see the interface and it's static address there?
[10:38] <|bb7|> yes i see it
[10:38] <|bb7|> sorry
[10:38] <|bb7|> i only forgot to edit /etc/resolv.conf.  ah sorry
[10:38] <svenxy> then you are fine
[10:46] <Viking667> Got a weird problem when I run Software Updates from the system tray applet.
[10:48] <Viking667> I get a window saying "Check and install updates", I choose "Apply all available updates" then get two boxes - one's got a progress bar and the other one comes up as "An internal system error has occurred", and in the Details, it says "The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!"
[10:48] <Viking667> What the heck do I do here?
[11:26] <Hambos> hello
[11:27] <Hambos> can someone expert help me?
[11:28] <Hambos> hey
[11:35] <cosimo321> mm  this is interesting
[11:35] <mavar> русский народ есть
[11:39] <Hambos> has kubuntu 9.04 same support for hardware as ubuntu?
[11:40] <tsimpson> yes
[11:42] <Hambos> so i have a problem with my grpahic card on ubuntu 9.04. Firefox stucks. i have GM945. On mandriva 2009.1 i'm ok. On kubuntu?
[12:43] <ka> Some one posted how I could throw out pulse audio the other day. But that was on my desktop, I need to purge pulse from my laptop too. Since skype wont work very well when I use skype. (pulse wont see my microphone)
[12:45] <ka> I think I found it "sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio"
[12:46] <robin0800> New DAP bug? http://paste.ubuntu.com/206187/
[12:49] <bohne> test
[13:07] <|bohne|> php
[13:15] <ssc> hi all, does someone know how to fix 'permission denied' for a bind9 journal file?
[13:15] <ssc> apparmor is off
[13:15] <ssc> file permissions should be ok
[13:33] <valery> hi
[13:40] <klop> 333
[13:43] <topramen> IS ANYONE HERE FAMILIAR WITH BRASERO CD/DVD BURING SOFTWARE?
[13:52] <JuJuBee> How do I get kubuntu to read the SD card when I insert into my printer?
[14:13] <elkuro> hello
[14:31] <muchasuerte> hi elkuro
[14:39] <andrew__> hello everyone
[14:40] <shadeslayer> andrew__: hi
[14:40] <andrew__> this is interesting... don't quite know how to use it yet
[14:58] <ugur> hi all i need a little help with run levels and rc scripts
[14:59] <andre___> Hallo
[15:00] <Xand3r> hey ho
[15:00] <Xand3r> i have installed kde3 beta 2
[15:00] <andre___> Kann mir jemand helfen? :-)
[15:00] <Xand3r> where is plasmapkg?
[15:00] <Xand3r> andre___: do you need german support?
[15:00] <Xand3r> go to #kubuntu-de
[15:00] <andre___> Yes
[15:00] <andre___> Okay
[15:02] <Xand3r> but you dont have to go, only ask in english
[15:03] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: any problems?
[15:03] <Xand3r> shadeslayer: yea i want to use plasmapkg
[15:04] <Xand3r> but it isnt there
[15:04] <Xand3r> and i have installed kde-workspace-bin
[15:04] <Xand3r> so it is realy crazy
[15:04] <Xand3r> i mean i installed kde 4.3 beta 2
[15:05] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: hmm...
[15:06] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: how do you use plasmapkg?
[15:06] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: plasmapkg -i <pkg> ??
[15:06] <Xand3r> yes
[15:06] <shadeslayer> whats the error?
[15:07] <Xand3r> plasmlld it saysapkg is not insta
[15:08] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: uh..didnt get that
[15:08] <Xand3r> plasmapkg is not installed, it says
[15:09] <Xand3r> shadeslayer: it says that i shud install kde-workspace-bin
[15:09] <Xand3r> but it is allready
[15:09] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: im trying to search in /usr/bin..one sec
[15:09] <Xand3r> kk
[15:11] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: what are you trying to install?
[15:11] <Xand3r> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/gmail-plasmoid?content=101229
[15:12] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: try it via the add widget thing...
[15:12] <shadeslayer> im pretty sure its listed there
[15:12] <Xand3r> hmm
[15:13] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: also do you have python-plasma
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:16] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hii
[15:16] <BluesKaj> hey shadeslayer
[15:17] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: did it install?
[15:21] <Xand3r> shadeslayer: yes
[15:21] <Xand3r> thx
[15:22] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: no problem :)
[15:27] <Zxcvb> anyone know how well the 5100AGN wireless card is working?
[15:28] <shadeslayer> Zxcvb: i have a 4965 AGN..works perfectly
[15:28] <Zxcvb> ok, because the forums don't give a clear answer
[15:28] <shadeslayer> Zxcvb: also a new driver iwlagn from intel was introduced...shouldnt be a problem
[15:28] <shadeslayer> !hardware | Zxcvb have a look here
[15:43] <genericnode_> hm
[15:43]  * shadeslayer was about to say : pretty quite :P
[15:44] <Hagus> anyone here use eclipse?
[15:45] <shadeslayer> brb
[15:47] <Slayer[RUS]> y, i using
[15:55] <roland_> Hi, I'm running karmic with kde beta 2. There are some features missing from vanilla kde but perhaps I'm just missing some packages: nepomuk search bar in dolphin (instead I have one additional empty toolbar), The QEdge wallpaper plugin, some desktop types like the black board
[15:55] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for karmic support roland_
[15:55] <roland_> k. thx
[15:57] <les_> де я?
[15:57] <bazhang> les_, #ubuntu-ru
[15:58] <dvda> whenever I start a kde program like konqueror with sudo, an xmessage window pops up and says "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation.", if I press on okay, kubuntu logs off
[15:59] <BluesKaj> in the terminal or runbox , dvda ?
[15:59] <dvda> terminal
[15:59] <dvda> on kubuntu 9.04 (actually ubuntu with kubuntu packages)
[16:00] <BluesKaj> hmm, kubuntu-desktop installed ?
[16:00] <dvda> yes
[16:00] <Dragnslcr> dvda- first off, don't use sudo for konqueror, use kdesudo
[16:00] <Mamarok> dvda: you shouldn't start GUI programms with sudo, but with kdesudo
[16:00] <dvda> ok
[16:00] <Mamarok> Dragnslcr: :)
[16:00] <dvda> thanks
[16:00] <Dragnslcr> W00t! I win!
[16:00] <Mamarok> yes, you do :)
[16:01] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, sudo should be ok for the terminal kdesudo for the run box
[16:02] <Zxcvb> also, for a netbook with a 16gb drive, how much space is recommended for /, /usr, and /home?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> Zxcvb: 4 GB id *minimum* for /
[16:02] <shadeslayer> *is
[16:03] <Zxcvb> shadeslayer: so 500MB for /, 4GB for /usr, and the rest for home?
[16:03] <Zxcvb> shadeslayer: with /opt linked to /usr/opt
[16:03] <shadeslayer> Zxcvb: i would allocate 5GB,just to be sure that when i install some packages,i dont run out of space
[16:03] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- as far as I know, sudo always has the potential to break things if you run GUI apps with it
[16:04] <Dragnslcr> Zxcvb- any particular reason to split / and /usr?
[16:04] <Zxcvb> Dragnslcr: fsck, mainly
[16:04] <shadeslayer> Zxcvb: hmmm...i would allocate a total 5GB for / (all of it together) and rest for /home...
[16:04] <Zxcvb> Dragnslcr: you can cancel a fsck on /usr without problems but if you cancel a fsck on /, you can't continue to boot normally
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, that's news to me, butguess one learns something new everyday
[16:05] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: you bet! :)
[16:05] <Dragnslcr> I wouldn't think fsck would take all that long on a 5 GB partition
[16:05] <Zxcvb> unless there is a way around that issue where if you ctrl-c out of a fsck on /, it won't let you continue to boot normally (you can only go into single user mode or reboot)
[16:06] <shadeslayer> Zxcvb: especially with ext4..... i can fsck on a 30 GB / partition in under 15 sec
[16:06] <Heho> hi i have problem with hd external , i cant write on it even i use terminal as root , this problem begin after 4 days when i install kubuntu 9.04
[16:06] <shadeslayer> Heho: what format?
[16:07] <Heho> vfat
[16:07] <shadeslayer> Heho: somebody once advised me not to use Fat on external drives/partitions....
[16:07] <Heho> mm
[16:07] <shadeslayer> Heho: tried with ntfs ?
[16:08] <Heho> i use it on 8.10 no problem but on 9.04 there is a problem
[16:08] <Heho> no i don`t
[16:08] <hydrogen> shadeslayer: in this channel, you will most likely run into people who advise you to do everything, and people who advise you not to do everything that someone else advised you to do
[16:08] <shadeslayer> hydrogen: im googling for the exact problem....
[16:09] <shadeslayer> Heho: one sec...
[16:09] <Heho> don`t try
[16:09] <Heho> im googling too and nothing useful
[16:09] <Heho> :\
[16:09] <Zxcvb> shadeslayer: with ext4, is there any way to force it to write all data to disk?
[16:09] <Zxcvb> shadeslayer: I heard that the sync command didn't work on ext4, and that sometimes caused data loss with some apps
[16:10] <shadeslayer> Heho: ive found something the ubuntu forums.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112636
[16:10] <shadeslayer> Zxcvb: havent encountered anything so far... but thats just me...
[16:11] <shadeslayer> Zxcvb: wwell ext4 is still beta,so there are bound to be issues
[16:11] <shadeslayer> *well
[16:12] <Heho> hahaaaay my hd not found on fstab !!
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Heho: you need to manually add a line there...as it says on the forum
[16:12] <Heho> mm wait
[16:13] <shadeslayer> Heho: better wiki : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:13] <shadeslayer> Heho: follow instructions listed in wiki above
[16:13] <Heho> ok
[16:14] <Heho> thanks i will try
[16:15] <shadeslayer> gah...one of my core is at 100 pc :O
[16:20] <kubu> Hi, friends. I have problem with temporary text files opened with "Kate". Whenever i work on a text file, it leaves a temporary file which i hate it. Is there any setting i should modify? Thaks.
[16:22] <Heho> shedeslayer also same thing
[16:22] <Heho> :\
[16:22] <kuros> ext4 is not in beta
[16:22] <kuros> it's been labeled "stable" since 2008
[16:23] <HelpKubuntuWLAN> ello there... can anyone help me with WLAN? :(
[16:24] <Dragnslcr> kubu- files ending in ~? Yeah, let me find the setting for you
[16:24] <Heho> ops
[16:24] <Heho> can someone help me ?!
[16:24] <Heho> hi i have problem with hd external , i cant write on it even i use terminal as root , this problem begin after 4 days when i install kubuntu 9.04
[16:24] <HelpKubuntuWLAN> me to
[16:24] <Heho> hd vfat format
[16:24] <Dragnslcr> kubu- Settings -> Configure Kate -> Open/Save -> Advanced
[16:25] <kuros> are you mounting it with read/write permissions?
[16:25] <kuros> sometimes they mount as read-only by default
[16:25] <HelpKubuntuWLAN> anyone who can help me with WLAN on kubuntu 9.04?
[16:25] <Heho> yes it also auto mount but i can`t write on it
[16:26] <HelpKubuntuWLAN> it says wlan0:Not Connected :(
[16:26] <Heho> yesterday i can write on it copy past rename but today i don`t know what happen
[16:27] <Heho>  [   72.785143] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sdb1) what that mean ?!
[16:27] <kubu> Thankyou Dragnslcr, for your help. I got fixed the problem with your direction. I hope it doestn't harm turning off? What do you think?
[16:29] <Heho> someone help ?!
[16:34] <Dragnslcr> kubu- well, it's up to you. With it turned off, if you accidentally save and close a file that you didn't mean to, you don't have the backup file. If you do regular backups of your files anyway, there's less of a chance of it being a problem
[16:35] <kubu> Thankyou now i got the whole idea.
[16:36] <kubu> I have also another thing to accomplish. I wanted to Encrypt my portable hard disk. Any idea how to do that.
[16:37] <pierre3> hello, I looked up the init scripts and did not found yet how to use ssh-agent with kde4, is there someone who knows how? thanks
[16:39] <pierre3> ah, got it, I had to use ssh-add
[16:40] <Dragnslcr> kubu- I don't know offhand, but I'm sure some other people in here do. #ubuntu or Google might also be able to help
[16:42] <kubu> Ok, i will do that. Thanks again.
[16:44] <hanhan> hello
[16:44] <hanhan> can you help me
[16:45] <orion_> Downgrade  KDE 4.3 Beta 2 -> KDE 4.2.4
[16:45] <hanhan> i doing system asterisk
[16:45] <hanhan> but i don't running GUI
[16:46] <hanhan> i had setup asterisk-gui
[16:46] <hanhan> please
[16:47] <bazhang> !info askterisk-config
[16:47] <bazhang> whoops
[16:47] <hanhan> oh no
[16:47] <bazhang> !info asterisk-config
[16:48] <hanhan> web server had run
[16:48] <hanhan> but
[16:48] <bazhang> hanhan, with kubuntu?
[16:48] <hanhan> yes
[16:48] <hanhan> The requested URL was not found on this server
[16:48] <Wormik> Do you know any GPU benchmark for Linux?
[16:49] <bazhang> no idea really about asterisk, hanhan, iirc they have a channel here on freenode though
[16:49] <hanhan> i have to setup asterisk-gui
[16:49] <bazhang> hanhan, there is the channel #asterisk where you may get people more knowledgeable
[16:49] <Wormik> I know only this: http://unigine.com/
[16:50] <orion_> Downgrade  KDE 4.3 Beta 2 -> KDE 4.2.4
[16:50] <orion_> help
[16:50] <dog> по русски говорит кто-нить?
[16:50] <bazhang> dog #ubuntu-ru
[16:50] <dog> ) спс
[16:51] <Wormik> orion_, I need help too. Howto install KDE 3.5.10 on (K)ubuntu 9.04?
[16:51] <hanhan> help me, please!
[16:51] <Wormik> dog, I speak russian
[16:51] <Wormik> dog, !russian
[16:51] <Wormik> !russian
[16:52] <hanhan> help me, please!
[16:52] <bazhang> hanhan, please be patient, and ask in #asterisk as well
[16:52] <hanhan> help me, please!
[16:53] <hanhan> please help me step by step
[16:54] <hanhan> help me, please!
[16:55] <Pici> !patience | hanhan
[16:56] <hanhan> i thinks anyone know for proplem
[16:56] <Wormik_> Is glxgears a good GPU benchmark?
[16:56] <hanhan> help me
[16:57] <bazhang> Wormik_, not really no
[16:57] <bazhang> hanhan, just repeating help me wont get you help faster
[16:57] <hanhan> help me about asterisk-gui
[16:57] <bazhang> hanhan, you have to specify exactly what you are trying to do, what you have tried, and what errors you have gotten
[16:58] <hanhan> oh, sorry bazhang
[16:58] <hanhan> are you chinaes?
[16:58] <Wormik_> bazhang, do you know any more benchmark? I know only this: http://unigine.com/
[16:59] <bazhang> hanhan, please explain what you are trying to do, etc (as above)
[16:59] <bazhang> Wormik_, let me check
[17:00] <hanhan> i life very near u
[17:00] <buddy_> ciao
[17:00] <buddy_> ?list
[17:00] <hanhan> i'm nextdoor of you
[17:01] <Wormik_> bazhang, in other channel I read about benchmark on Intel site, I will check.
[17:02] <hanhan> are you here
[17:02] <hanhan> are you here??
[17:02] <buddy_> i want download movees
[17:03] <Pici> !piracy | buddy_
[17:03] <hanhan> help me about asterisk-gui
[17:04] <hanhan> are you here??
[17:04] <bazhang> http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/ Wormik this is what I could find
[17:05] <BluesKaj> !ask | hanhan
[17:05] <bazhang> hanhan, you need to give the following info: 1)what are you trying to do,  2)what have you tried,   3)what errors have you gotten
[17:06] <bazhang> hanhan, in the channel please, and not via PM
[17:07] <hanhan> ok
[17:07] <bazhang> hanhan, if you dont give that info, then there is no way to help you
[17:07] <hanhan> i see error at web server of asterisk-gui
[17:08] <hanhan> do you know ???
[17:09] <BluesKaj> !vn | hanhan
[17:13] <bazhang> he is Chinese I am pretty sure
[17:13] <hanhan> who??
[17:14] <Pici> hanhan: #askterisk may be a better place to ask, since #kubuntu isn't all that knowledgable about it.
[17:15] <hanhan> oh
[17:15] <hanhan> yes
[17:15] <hanhan> thanks
[17:15] <bazhang> #asterisk
[17:16] <Pici> bazhang: er, right.
[17:18] <Matisse> Am I right that hardy backports are senseless when having jaunty?
[17:19] <bazhang> you would not want hardy repos with Jaunty
[17:20] <Matisse> but which would I want to have?
[17:20] <bazhang> Matisse, for which package or packages
[17:21] <Matisse> just need the release name for sources.list
[17:22] <Matisse> is it Karmic ?
[17:22] <bazhang> Matisse, you want to add packages from Karmic to Jaunty, upgrade to Karmic, or already are on Karmic
[17:23] <Matisse> no, i'm not
[17:23] <Matisse> what is backport for? getting patches for old software
[17:23] <Matisse> jaunty is older than karmic
[17:23] <Matisse> so I add karmic-backports to my sources.list, right or wrong?
[17:24] <bazhang> for Jaunty? there is no backports for Karmic as Karmic is unreleased and early alpha
[17:24] <bazhang> !backports | Matisse
[17:25] <bazhang> Jaunty would be jaunty backports, and more recently PPA
[17:25] <Matisse> yes
[17:25] <Matisse> now I understand
[17:26] <bazhang> personal package archive, for example the vlc that has player and window all in one
[17:26] <bazhang> unlike the Jaunty vlc repo package that has them separate
[17:27] <bazhang> https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart
[17:27] <Matisse> !opera
[17:29] <Matisse> I'm not using vlc
[17:29] <Matisse> is it useful?
[17:30] <AlexZion> hi everyone, I got a little problem here ..., I used to have compiz as a window manager , but for some reason it's freeze very often Plasma ...., so right now I try to switch to Kwin as a window manager ..., but anytime I restart, compiz is still there ...., any suggestion !?!
[17:30] <bazhang> that was just an example, but it is quite a nice video player app, yes
[17:33] <Matisse> !dist-upgrade
[17:36] <Dragnslcr> AlexZion- look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[17:38] <Matisse> what does "apt-get dist-upgrade" do if no new release (f.e. Karmic) is out? It seems to upgrade packages which arent upgraded by  "apt-get pgrade"
[17:40] <Matisse> Is "dist-upgrade" able to delete files, if needed and "upgrade" not?
[17:41] <Matisse> well, actually the right question should be: if an up-to-date system is the highest priority, is there a case in which dist-upgrade would be a mistake?
[17:42] <Matisse> (forget the other questions before)
[17:43] <dksoba88> I deleted one of my window partitions, is there any way to make a partition in that space from kubuntu?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Matisse, only if you have the proper repos listed in your sources.list
[17:45] <Dragnslcr> Matisse- "apt-get upgrade" won't upgrade packages that have new dependencies, while "apt-get dist-upgrade" will install the new dependencies and upgrade the installed packages
[17:45] <Dragnslcr> dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu by itself
[17:47] <Matisse> ok, thx bazhang, BluesKaj and Dragnslcr. Seems like I finally understand the upgrading process
[17:58] <AlexZion> How can I set Kwin as default window manager ?, I tried on the configuration settings , but it doesn't work ..., anytime I restart, compiz is still there .. :(
[17:59] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: K > system settings > default apps > WM
[17:59] <AlexZion> it doesn't works ....., I already tried it
[17:59] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: then check the radio box Kwin
[17:59] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: remove compiz then...
[18:00] <AlexZion> all about compiz ?, trhere is a konsole command for that ?
[18:00] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: you could try killall compiz;kwin before removing it
[18:03] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: did it work?
[18:04] <AlexZion> the konsole says noprocess termonated...
[18:04] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: what about the kwin part?
[18:04] <AlexZion> now I tried to remove anything about compiz , andthen I'll try to restart
[18:04] <AlexZion> sane answer .. :(
[18:05] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: what? that command is supposed to start kwin
[18:05] <AlexZion> ok , done , I try to restart ..., so I'll see what's happen now ...
[18:05] <shadeslayer> AlexZion: ok..
[18:29] <commander_> is there any other way to speed up the update dl process?
[18:30] <notriddle> commander_: If Kubuntu supported it, you could use package patches instead of downloading it from scratch. Sadly, it hasn't trickled down from Debian.
[18:31] <commander_> how i get that?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> commander_, change your source server to main in your package manger
[18:32] <BluesKaj> err manager
[18:32]  * notriddle didn't think BluesKaj's recommendation was well-supported.
[18:33] <commander_> i only have KPackagekit now
[18:34] <notriddle> commander_: In KPackageKit, Applications->System->KPackageKit, you can find an option to change repository sources.
[18:34] <BluesKaj> notriddle, my experience with the source server defaults to the closest mirror when you install kubuntu , you can change it to speed things up if the source mirror is being throttled ..one has to expaeriment with different locations
[18:35] <HenkdeVries> Hello I'm trying to use net snmp (v 2c or v 3) to get information about my 3com 4924 switch, but i'm getting a timeout while connecting. I can connect using v1, but that leaves me without 64 bit counters. Does anyone here know snmp well enough to help me?
[18:37] <BluesKaj> commander_, sudo aptitude install adept
[18:37] <BluesKaj> kpackagekit is flaky and unstable
[18:37] <notriddle> HenkdeVries: What program are you using to connect?
[18:38] <notriddle> BluesKaj: I've had that experience as well.. hope they improve it.
[18:38] <HenkdeVries> netsnmp commandline
[18:38] <commander_> nothing...it keep saying unable to unlock
[18:39] <BluesKaj> notriddle, dunno why they try fix something that not broken and relatively stable ...even synaptic still works well
[18:39] <BluesKaj> commander_, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:40] <notriddle> BluesKaj: KPackageKit is cross-distro. KDE can integrate better with it upstream.
[18:40] <BluesKaj> upstream to what ?
[18:40] <notriddle> BluesKaj: Upstream KDE can integrate with PackageKit, since it is cross-distribution.
[18:41] <commander_> blue are you sure cause that one don't work either
[18:41] <BluesKaj> integrate ?, the damn thing breaks 50% of the time in my experience
[18:42] <BluesKaj> commander_, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:43] <notriddle> BluesKaj: I know what you mean. PackageKit is newer than Adept, and cannot make assumptions about Ubuntu, so it is more buggy.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> commander_, do you still have the packagekit open ?
[18:43] <commander_> i closed it
[18:45] <BluesKaj> notriddle, when all else fails I use cli/aptitude or for gui/synaptic , adept still runs ok , but it doesn't do dependencies as well as synaptic and aptitude ,for some reason
[18:47] <notriddle> BluesKaj: That's what I usually do, too... though I usually don't use synaptic (ugly GTK apps).
[18:48] <topramen>  can anyone tell me what are the known problems as to why k3b, and Brasero want burn or copy properly<<<
[18:48] <topramen> ?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> topramen, what are you trying to burn , first of all ?
[18:49] <topramen> Blueskaj: iso<...and copy and burn a dve
[18:50] <topramen> sorry
[18:50] <topramen> dvd<
[18:50] <ct529> has anyone tried to install knowledgeroot on kubuntu, using the package in the repository?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> topramen, if it's copyright protected, make sure you have libdvdcss2 installed
[18:52] <topramen> Blueskaj<<<ok let me see if I can go try that...hold on
[18:53] <shadeslayer> topramen: you would need medibuntu repos for that package (see medibuntu.org) :)
[18:53] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | topramen
[18:54] <topramen> shadeslayer: ok..
[18:54] <BluesKaj> topramen, and kubuntu-restricted-extras  will be available from that repos , make sure you install that as well
[18:55] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: is kubuntu-restricted-extras an alias of the ubuntu ones?
[18:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , i reckon
[18:57] <KrispyKreme> My fast-user-switch-applet was deleted from the taskbar by mistake because it said it didn't start up properly and I accidently clicked the delete anyway button and was wondering how I make it appear like the default again. I tried sudo apt-get install fast-user-switch-applet, and everything was downloaded. What's next?
[18:58] <topramen> Blueskaj: i forgot how to add the medibuntu repo ?
[18:58] <shadeslayer> KrispyKreme: did you choose KDM as the login manager?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> KrispyKreme, look in the widgets, dunno for sure
[18:58] <shadeslayer> topramen: did you see the repository how to on the sire
[18:58] <shadeslayer> *site
[18:58] <KrispyKreme> shadeslayer: I have gnome as login manager
[18:59] <BluesKaj> topramen, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , then add the repos and save
[18:59] <topramen> well i'm there and I've done it before but someone gave me a command to type in the konsole/terminal and that's how I did it that last time
[18:59] <KrispyKreme> blueskaj: yeah, I looked at the widgets and the default one isn't on there
[18:59] <shadeslayer> KrispyKreme: sorry..you can either use KDM and fast user switcher thing or GDM and the gnome fast-user switcher applet
[19:00] <shadeslayer> topramen: just look at the top and see " repositorry how to "
[19:00] <shadeslayer> *repository
[19:00] <topramen> ok
[19:00] <KrispyKreme> shadeslayer: I want to use GDM and the fast-user switcher applet. I downloaded everything that is needed but don't know how to restore it back to the original
[19:01] <BluesKaj> topramen, you can copy and paste the repos into your sourcs.list save then do : sudo aptitude update
[19:01] <topramen> shadeslayer: well on that command that you just gave me was I suppose to put the commas in ?
[19:01] <topramen> shadesslayer:,,ok
[19:01] <BluesKaj> it's easier to copy and paste
[19:02] <shadeslayer> KrispyKreme: ok wait.....you have GDM  and you want to use the fast-user-switcher applet in GNOME right?
[19:02] <topramen> well that command that you just gave me poped up a list of sources.list-kate...so what do I do now?
[19:03] <shadeslayer> topramen: just issue >> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/`lsb_release -cs`.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list; sudo apt-get -q update; sudo apt-get --yes -q --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring; sudo apt-get -q update
[19:03] <KrispyKreme> shadeslayer: that's correct. It said that the fast-user applet didn't start up correctly and gave me two options: to ignore or to delete and I accidently pressed delete
[19:04] <shadeslayer> KrispyKreme: ok run >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[19:04]  * BluesKaj backs off topramen ...too many cooks
[19:04] <shadeslayer> KrispyKreme: itll give you a option to choose KDM or GDM..choose GDM
[19:04] <topramen> as in too many cheifs and not enough indians?
[19:05] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: hehe...you can cook :)
[19:05] <shadeslayer> topramen: hey watch it...
[19:05] <KrispyKreme> shadeslayer: Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...
[19:06] <KrispyKreme> shadeslayer: Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[19:06] <KrispyKreme> that's what it gives me
[19:07] <shadeslayer> KrispyKreme: ok now reboot and then log into gnome and then right click the top panel > add applet > fast-user-switcher
[19:08] <KrispyKreme> shadeslayer: be right back. thanks!
[19:08] <shadeslayer> KrispyKreme: no problem
[19:11] <topramen> shadeslayet: where do I put this?    http://paste.ubuntu.com/206443/
[19:12] <shadeslayer> topramen: open a konsole (alt+F2 > konsole) and paste it there
[19:12] <topramen> i've done that already
[19:12] <topramen> what do I do next?
[19:12] <topramen> shadeslayer?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> click enter
[19:13] <BluesKaj> :)
[19:13] <shadeslayer> haha..
[19:13] <topramen> ok i clicked enter now do I do sudo wget now?
[19:15] <shadeslayer> topramen: now sudo apt-get install  libdvdcss2
[19:15] <topramen> Blueskaj: never mind I see it's added to my repository now I guess I need to check them and then do sudo apt-get right?
[19:15] <shadeslayer> topramen: i might be slow in replying....im learning a bit of ruby :)
[19:16] <KrispyKreme> shadeslayer: Thanks a lot man. I got it back to the default!! Thanks for helping me!
[19:16] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: can you take over?
[19:16] <shadeslayer> KrispyKreme: no problemo
[19:16] <BluesKaj> yeah topramen sudo apt-get update , then : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-retricted-extras libdvdcss2
[19:16] <topramen> shadeslayer: no problem when your done with ruby can I have here
[19:16] <topramen> ok thanks
[19:19] <BluesKaj> topramen, also install w32codecs non-free-codecs
[19:19] <Wormik> I have done downloading pcsx2. To compile it, I need comment some strings in 20 files. Is it possible to do it automatically?
[19:20] <hubar> what is a good kde git client?
[19:20] <shadeslayer> !git
[19:20] <Wormik> String is if [ $# -gt 0 ] && [ $1 = "all" ]
[19:20] <topramen> Blueskaj:  ok is that command "sudo apt-get w32codecs non-free-codecs?
[19:20] <shadeslayer> nothing there...
[19:21] <Wormik> next string then',
[19:21] <Wormik> and 2 strings at the end
[19:21] <BluesKaj> yes topramen , those are 2 diffrent apps but they can be installed at the same time
[19:21] <Wormik> BluesKaj, can win32codecs work in 64-bit Ubuntu?
[19:21] <shadeslayer> Wormik: no we have w64codecs for that
[19:22] <BluesKaj> topramen, sudo apt-get install w32codecs non-free-codecs
[19:22] <topramen> ok sir thank your... by the way can someone take a look here to see if everythings ok?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/206452/
[19:22] <Wormik> Where can I download it? It can play iv50?
[19:22] <Wormik> shadeslayer, where can I download it? I don't find
[19:22] <commander_> how do i install synaptics on KDE?
[19:24] <shadeslayer> Wormik: its in medibuntu (see medibuntu.org
[19:24] <shadeslayer> commander_: we have kpackagekit
[19:24] <shadeslayer> commander_: or sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:24] <Wormik> shadeslayer, I need medibuntu repository?
[19:24] <topramen> commander: if your already hooked up to the internet it will prompt to run in different modes like gnome but you can chose at the bottom of the screen
[19:24] <shadeslayer> Wormik: yes...
[19:24] <BluesKaj> Wormik  ia32 ..depends on your cpu and graphics tho
[19:25] <commander_> i know but that take too long too download updates
[19:25] <Wormik> Why ia32 when it is win64 codecs?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> ia32-libs-tools
[19:26] <shadeslayer> topramen: looks fine
[19:26] <topramen> ok thanks
[19:26] <topramen> so i guess I can burn now
[19:26] <BluesKaj> so apps written for 32bit can run in 64 bit environments
[19:27] <Wormik> 64bit codecs on 32-bit machines... so hard
[19:27] <Wormik> thank you
[19:27] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu Tutorials Day starting in half an hour over in #kubuntu-devel  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay
[19:27] <Daskreech> Half a house away!
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Wormik, you have 64 bit kubuntu installed
[19:28] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:29] <Wormik> BluesKaj, yes. Ubuntu. I'm wainting tutorials there
[19:30] <shadeslayer> Wormik: see the topic :)
[19:30] <BluesKaj> Wormik, do you have adept or synaptic installed ? if so just type ia32 in the searchbar and you'll see the options available and the explanations in "prperties"
[19:30] <BluesKaj> err properties
[19:31] <AndorinKato> Hi, guys. How do we determine the default driver for a certain bit of hardware?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> what HW AndorinKato ?
[19:32] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: A D-link WDA 1320 wireless card.
[19:32] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, install wicd
[19:33] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: Is it possible to do that without having a connection to the Internet on that particular computer?
[19:33] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: My friend is trying to get her computer to connect and the only way it can do so is wirelessly.
[19:33] <BluesKaj> no AndorinKato it needs to be DL'd from the repositories
[19:34] <AndorinKato> Ok, then she can't do that.
[19:34] <topramen> Blueskaj<<...Do I need to reboot after the installs?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> topramen, not necessary
[19:35] <shadeslayer> topramen: only if it prompts you to do so
[19:36] <topramen> Blueskaj:  Reason asking is because I'm having the same problems and the newest one is that I cant get it to erase cdr/dvdr
[19:36] <topramen> Blueskaj: well hold on i'm gonna go reboot
[19:36] <AndorinKato> We need a way to get her wireless to working that doesn't involve downloading something because she has no connection otherwise... she can download files on another computer and transfer them to her PC, but that's the extent of her access.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, you can download a deb file here and copy it to your friends pc http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wicd/wicd_1.5.9-2_all.deb
[19:38] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: I think the issue is the card isn't showing up in ifconfig at all
[19:38] <Wormik> medibuntu repository is dirty
[19:39] <Daskreech> the basic drivers don't load
[19:39] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: Alright, I'll pass it to her. What exactly will wicd do for her?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, yeah, we that issue before and wicd installed ok
[19:39] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: And it will work with Kubuntu, right?
[19:39] <Wormik> It can't install codecs that I need. iv50 or windows codecs. It installs all codecs. I needn't 32-bit flash with depends. I'm using 64-bit flash
[19:40] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, yes , i use it on our linux machines and laptops
[19:40] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: And worked? with no network card?
[19:40] <shadeslayer> Wormik: see the w64 codecs then
[19:40] <shadeslayer> Wormik: also its a repo for media codecs
[19:40] <shadeslayer> Wormik: ignore last comment
[19:40] <Wormik> shadeslayer, it's 210 KiB and hasn't all codecs
[19:41] <shadeslayer> Wormik: trust me it does
[19:41] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: Okay, she's downloading. Will she have to configure anything after she installs it?
[19:41] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, does the pc have  wifi card ?
[19:41] <Wormik> only 3
[19:41] <shadeslayer> Wormik: also see kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:41] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: Yes.
[19:41] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: but no driver
[19:41] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: I had her run the command you gave me but was unable to interpret the results.
[19:42] <Wormik> WMA9 and iv50 doesn't work
[19:42] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: it had results?
[19:43] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Yes, indeed.
[19:43] <AndorinKato> I had her run lsmod | grep ath
[19:43] <Daskreech> well that's good :)
[19:43] <Wormik> And I needn't openjdk, I'm using sun-jdk. dirty
[19:43] <AndorinKato> It gave her ath_pci, ath_hal and wlan (which uses ath_pci).
[19:44] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: That's actually really good
[19:44] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: She says the deb package won't install.
[19:44] <shadeslayer> Wormik: kubuntu-restricted-extras has everything you might need ( in case you missed out )
[19:44] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: :O
[19:44] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: sudo ifconfig -a shows no card though ?
[19:45] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, it's very straightforward , use the deb install option by right clicking on the DL'd app then look for Wicd network manager in  k-menu/internet , then you'll have to configure your encryption and pw in preferences
[19:45] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: does wicd have dependencies?
[19:46] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, it's in the repos so the dependencies should come down with the app
[19:46] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: not if you download a .deb
[19:46] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: not if you are installing it on a machine with no internet
[19:47] <millun> hi
[19:47] <shadeslayer> no it has no dependencies
[19:47] <millun> pokerth
[19:47] <Daskreech> !hi | millun
[19:47] <millun> ALSA lib pcm_pulse.c:626:(pulse_prepare) PulseAudio: Unable to create stream: Invalid argument
[19:47] <millun> E: stream.c: Assertion 's' failed at pulse/stream.c:1224, function pa_stream_drain(). Aborting.
[19:47] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: No, she says it doesn't.
[19:48] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: eth0 l0 and pan0 ?
[19:48] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Yes.
[19:48] <Wormik> I needn't openjdk, I have sun-jdk. And needn't flash 32-bit with many depends. I have 64-bit. I need only win64 codecs, not mega-pack of all
[19:48] <BluesKaj> debs don't include dependencies ? that's anew one on me , usually the page will advise what else is required
[19:48] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: It says that it conflicts with the currently installed network manager.
[19:49] <shadeslayer> Wormik: then select whatever you want to install...apt is versatile
[19:49] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, just remove the widget-network-manager
[19:49] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: of course it will :)
[19:50] <Wormik> shadeslayer, repository hasn't it
[19:50] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: Is that the exact name of the program she needs to remove?
[19:50] <seeds> when i use desktop-switcher in jaunty netbook remix i get an empty desktop upon reboot
[19:50] <AndorinKato> I'm communicating with her via phone so it can be a bit awkward at times to pass on commands.
[19:51] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: She has two results, network manager and some plasma widget network manager./
[19:51] <Daskreech> The other computer she is using can't get on IRC?
[19:51] <AndorinKato> It can, but it's downstairs and she'd have to keep running back and forth.
[19:52] <BluesKaj> get rid of the widget one AndorinKato
[19:52] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Ah right :-)
[19:52] <AndorinKato> Ok
[19:53] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: It still conflicts, should she remove the other result she got as well?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> right click on the widget network manager icon and remove it
[19:54] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: that wont do it....or will it?
[19:54] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: She got rid of the widget result.
[19:54] <tumii> #suomi
[19:54] <tumii> wtf
[19:54] <tumii> oh sry =(
[19:54] <BluesKaj> or open widgets to remove it
[19:54] <topramen> Blueskaj:...why want it still burn or erase properly after all the updating?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> topramen, sorry dunno, maybe a reboot is on order
[19:56] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: We are asking whether or not we also need to remove the other network manager program that is installed on her system, because it is causing a conflict that prevents installation of wicd.
[19:57] <topramen> well i just rebooted the system and I still have the same problem
[19:57] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, when i installed wicd , it autremoc=ved the widget-network-manager , but I installed from the repos
[19:57] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, YES!
[19:58] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: thats what im thinking....hey if you have synaptic you can point it to the .deb and it manages everything for you
[19:58] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: But you could see you network card
[19:59] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: When installing deb: Error: Dependencies not satisfiable Python-GTK2
[19:59] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, perhaps you can explain to AndorinKato how that is done ..I've never done that
[19:59] <Riddell> * Kubuntu Tutorials Day starting in two minutes!  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay in #kubuntu-devel
[20:00] <Wormik> Howto install KDE 3.5.10 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> well, AndorinKato whatever dependencies are required should be DL'd and installed the same way as the app was
[20:00] <Daskreech> !kde3 | Wormik
[20:00] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: Well, we need to figure out which ones are required.
[20:01] <BluesKaj> Wormik, try jaunty remix
[20:01] <Wormik> Цруку шы кузщышещкн ща ершы
[20:01] <Wormik> Цруку шы кузщышещкн ща ершы,
[20:01] <Wormik> Where is repository of this?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> yes, AndorinKato it won't install til the dependencies are satisfied
[20:02] <BluesKaj> !ru | Wormik
[20:02] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: no can do....its tutorial day!
[20:03] <BluesKaj> so?
[20:03] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: im busy there :P...
[20:03] <BluesKaj> i didn't get much out of the last one ...mainly abunch of fanboys asking generality type questions
[20:05] <AndorinKato> So...
[20:05] <AndorinKato> We need the dependencies, then. Whatever they are.
[20:06] <AndorinKato> We also need to know, well, /what/ they are...
[20:07] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, you'll find out each time one isn't fullfilled
[20:08] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: What did you want to know?
[20:08] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: The only result she got was Python GTK2.
[20:08] <AndorinKato> We can find that online and DL it as a file, right?
[20:08] <harjot> guys how do i create an autorun script????
[20:09] <BluesKaj> ok try to find the python GTK app and copy it to her pc , AndorinKato
[20:09] <Daskreech> !autorun | harjot
[20:09] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Should be on the same page as the wicd packages file look for the list of dependent files and click it
[20:09] <Daskreech> !autostart | harjot
[20:10] <harjot> ok thanks darkscreech
[20:11] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Not finding it
[20:12] <AndorinKato> But I found the Python GTK-2 app on its site.
[20:12] <AndorinKato> So I'm just going to have her install it.
[20:12] <Daskreech> It's site >_>
[20:12] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, ok good
[20:15] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Why would it be dumped?
[20:16] <BluesKaj> it's pretty useless
[20:16] <AndorinKato> ...../.....
[20:16] <AndorinKato> Ok.
[20:16] <AndorinKato> She needs help compiling it.
[20:17] <AndorinKato> She says that when she types make she gets "No target file specified: no make file found"
[20:17] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: you guys are compiling it ?? \o/
[20:18] <shadeslayer> what about sudo dpkg -i pkg
[20:18] <BluesKaj> where did she put the app, AndorinKato ?
[20:19] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: in what cases?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, tell her to right click on the app and use the debinstaller
[20:20] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: dpkg: Error processing pkg, cannot access archive, no such file or directory
[20:20] <BluesKaj> open with
[20:21] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: put the path of the .deb in place of pkg
[20:21] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: There isn't one.
[20:21] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: what about the one you just downloaded a few moments ago?
[20:21] <AndorinKato> okay, guys, this is where I got the Python app: http://www.pygtk.org/
[20:22] <AndorinKato> PyGobject 2.18.0 has been released, this is a stable release, the first of the 2.18.x series. As usual, it's sources can be fetched here.
[20:22] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: That's what I'm talking about.
[20:22] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, mostly updating from the repos
[20:22] <AndorinKato> Apparently this is a dependency for wicd, so we need to get this working before we can install wicd.
[20:22] <shadeslayer> ah..what fun!!
[20:23] <AndorinKato> This is a great example of our really frustrating fight to get her wireless working. We try to do something and get an error. We try to resolve that error and get another error. We try to resolve THAT and get another...
[20:24] <shadeslayer> thats whats its all about :)
[20:24] <AndorinKato> No kidding. >_>
[20:25] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, is there no internet connection , even a temp one (cat5/eth0) just so we can get her pc setup with the proper dependencies
[20:25] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: Nope, none. The computer she's working on can only connect through wireless.
[20:25] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: i can assure you that you will need about 7-8 dev packages just to complie
[20:26] <JuJuBee> What media player should I use if I want to sync with iPod Classic 80G?  Amarok does not seem to be able to.
[20:26] <JuJuBee> v 2.1 that is.
[20:26] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: banshee is good
[20:26] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: I am still relatively new to Linux and am getting more and more lost by this as we go on. I barely know what compiling is.
[20:26] <JuJuBee> I will check it out. Haven't used it in a few years...
[20:27] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: hold on....
[20:27] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: you *were* telling him/her to compile?? right?? or am i lost again?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, I would take the pc/box to a spot where it can be connected to a modem or cable dsl....whatever hardwired connection you conjure up in order to solve thi problem , even use your monitor so you guys can see what's going on ..if you're serious about this
[20:28] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: i would have to agree with BluesKaj
[20:29] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: There aren't any ethernet cables whatsoever in the house that she can use. The PC downstairs also connects via wireless.
[20:29] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato:you just need a connection for 5 min
[20:29] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: desktop??
[20:29] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Both computers are desktops, yes.
[20:29] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Updating from repos?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, nm  I was behind curve there for a while ..din't realize you were talking about the python app
[20:30] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: there shoudl be little need to compile at this point I thin
[20:30] <BluesKaj> anyway i have errands to do before the post office closes ...bb in an hr or so
[20:30] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: im wayy behind the curve....i dont think you need python for  wicd
[20:30] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Ok, well, one, she says that the app comes in files that need compiling, and two, the site I downloaded it from says it is the /source/.
[20:31] <BluesKaj> BBL
[20:31] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Well, when she tries to install it, it gives her a dependency error on Python GTK2.
[20:31] <JuJuBee> shadeslayer: what import format  you suggest for use on iPod?
[20:31] <JuJuBee> Just installed and fired up Banshee
[20:31] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: hang on one sec...ill search through getdeb...
[20:33] <khaije|amalt> where's the tut?
[20:33] <shadeslayer> khaije|amalt: #kubuntu-devel...youre late!!!
[20:34] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: do you have synaptic?
[20:34] <khaije|amalt> shadeslayer: i know sry!
[20:34] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: She does not. As far as I know it doesn't ship with Kubuntu.
[20:35] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: sudo apt-get -d python-gtk2
[20:35] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: then give her the .deb and install :)
[20:36] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Invalid operation: python-gtk2
[20:36] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: What .deb?
[20:37] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: sudo apt-get -d install python-gtk2
[20:37] <AndorinKato> Oh.
[20:37] <AndorinKato> Is that for ME to run?
[20:37] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: yes...you download the .deb and give it to her
[20:37] <shadeslayer> can you do that?
[20:37] <AndorinKato> Okay, sorry for confusion, every command I've been given I've passed to her.
[20:38] <AndorinKato> Uh.
[20:38] <AndorinKato> When I run the command it says it's already installed.
[20:38] <shadeslayer> dang....
[20:38] <AndorinKato> I could remove it and then reinstall?
[20:38] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: you can try
[20:38] <AndorinKato> Or is there a way to turn an already installed package into a .deb?
[20:39] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: search for it /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:39] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: nope :)
[20:39] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Um, at the confirm screen for removing it, it wants to pull a LOT of my computer's packages... I don't want to risk removing it.
[20:40] <AndorinKato> ...
[20:40] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: can you see it in /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:40] <AndorinKato> Lots of packages in here, but they say ubuntu (which I'm running) and she has Kubuntu......
[20:41] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: ok dont remove it...open synaptic
[20:41] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: you should be getting the  files from packages.ubuntu.com
[20:41] <shadeslayer> oh wait....wont work....
[20:41] <AndorinKato> Ok...
[20:41] <khaije|amalt> shadeslayer: did i miss much?
[20:41] <Daskreech> There is a page there fore Wicd (search on the main page) it will have the debs and the dependecies.
[20:42] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: A million times faster and easier
[20:42] <khaije|amalt> shadeslayer: it seems like they are just starting
[20:42] <AndorinKato> I'll try...
[20:42] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: wont work...loads of dependencies.....i hate knetwork manager
[20:43] <Daskreech> Again I don't think this is going to work since she doesn't have a device network entry
[20:43] <AndorinKato> Wonderful...
[20:43] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato:  best way forward : 1)get a wired connection or 2)install ubuntu , wicd , remove ubuntu-desktop , install kubuntu-desktop
[20:43] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: You mean this? http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wicd/ I searched it earlier and couldn't find anything about dpeendencies... 1.5.9-2_all is the one she grabbed.
[20:44] <harjot> Is it possible for a parallel dual boot????
[20:45] <shadeslayer> harjot: youve asked this question earlier and the answer is still no
[20:45] <JuJuBee> shadeslayer: banshee doesn't play mp3 by default.  How do I enable it?
[20:45] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: hold on
[20:45] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: 0_o
[20:45] <harjot> shadeslayer: you Remember LOL
[20:46] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: I can have her download Ubuntu Jaunty downstairs and install it. But how would that make it easier to get wicd?
[20:46] <harjot> shadeslayer: but are u still sure about this and why cant u parallel boot???
[20:46] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: is there *no* way there that we can get dependencies and wicd?
[20:47] <harjot> shadeslayer: Is there any possible way for me to run windoze in like another seesion??? i.e. ctrl-alt-f8?????
[20:47] <harjot> Without virtulization?>???
[20:47] <shadeslayer> harjot: no
[20:47] <harjot> shadeslayer: when u said No like that i jsut laughed
[20:48] <harjot> shadeslayer: because
[20:48] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: whats the problem with the kubuntu wifi?
[20:48] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: fastest way I can think of is sudo apt-get install -d wicd
[20:48] <harjot> shadeslayer: i made such long sentences and u ended it with NO LLOLLL
[20:48] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: It doesn't recognize her wireless card.
[20:48] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: The device doesn't show up in ifconfig
[20:49] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: what wifi card?
[20:49] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: D-link WDA 1320
[20:49] <topramen> Has anyone had problems pasting in the ubuntu pastebin in the last 15 minutes...reason asking is that I cant for some strange reason
[20:49] <shadeslayer> topramen: try pastebin.com
[20:49] <AndorinKato> Supposed to work straight out of the box, but it doesn't/.
[20:49] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: does lspci not show it?
[20:50] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Nope.
[20:50] <topramen> shadeslayer: <<<ok for some reason it's running real slow
[20:51] <shadeslayer> seems like a deeper problem to me.....
[20:51] <shadeslayer> harjot: if you find a way to parallel boot,inform us too....
[20:52] <topramen> someone please check and tell me why the burn process is cutt off at 45% please %?
[20:52] <topramen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/206505/
[20:53] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: i have absolutely no idea why this is happening...if you can pinpoint the driver,try modprobe drivername
[20:53] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: It's loaded already
[20:53] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: then why the problem with lspci
[20:53] <shadeslayer> topramen: the paste is empty
[20:54] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: That command gives her nothing whatsoever. No output.
[20:55] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: :O...no pci devices?
[20:56] <AndorinKato> Was she supposed to get output for modprobe drivername?
[20:56] <AndorinKato> lspci gives plenty of output, but nothing for wireless.
[20:56] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: no no...modprobe loads a driver
[20:57] <AndorinKato> Right, but now both of us are confused about what you're asking.
[20:57] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: I didn't know about that :-/
[20:57] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: no in Linux if it works properly there is no output
[20:58] <topramen> huh!
[20:58] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: ok,lspci gives not output about wireless and Daskreech tells me the driver is loaded.....how is that possible?
[20:58] <AndorinKato> Ok
[20:58] <topramen> i know i just pasted it
[20:58] <shadeslayer> topramen: it loaded up now :P
[20:58] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Everyone in here is more versed about Linux than I am, so why are you asking me? :P
[20:58] <shadeslayer> all 105660 lines of it
[20:58] <topramen> ok
[20:58] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: so?
[20:59] <topramen> look at very bottom of page and see if you can tell me why it stopped?
[20:59] <shadeslayer> topramen: message	= "Error reading video DVD (no error)" <<--no idea what to make out of it
[21:00] <shadeslayer> topramen: bad dvd?
[21:00] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Maybe it's a driver problem?
[21:00] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: i seriously think so if lspci does not show it...try madwifii
[21:00] <shadeslayer> !madwifi | AndorinKato
[21:01] <topramen> ok well tell me if it's more than one person in my pc other than me ?  http://pastebin.com/d24aa457b
[21:02] <shadeslayer> topramen: nope
[21:02] <AndorinKato> I'm having her shut down the PC and open it while I read this so she can check to see if the card is plugged in correctly... but she says she doesn't know how to open it. >_<
[21:02] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: what was the card again??
[21:02] <shadeslayer> on the PC
[21:03] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: D-link WDA 1320.
[21:03] <commander_> does anyone have kubuntu 9.10 alpha yet?
[21:03] <AndorinKato> And it seems that #madwifi is a channel for support on freenode... I could join that and ask for help.
[21:03] <commander_> karmic koala
[21:04] <Daskreech> commander_: #ubuntu+1
[21:04] <topramen> well earlier when I went to network settings I saw like 4 extra 127.0.0.1 host other than me...and I know that was'nt right....and now it's says 127.0.0.1 local host and 127.0.0.1 topramen desktop
[21:06] <harper> Hi, moving from XP to Kubuntu.. I need to use my certificate, exported from Windows XP, in KMail. Howto?
[21:06] <AndorinKato> It seems that she may not be physically strong enough to open up the computer so she can check the card.
[21:07] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: can you handle AndorinKato??
[21:08] <topramen> shadeslayer<< Are you saying i'm copying a bad dvd?<<
[21:09] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: No
[21:09] <Daskreech> teaching a class now
[21:09] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: it says in the wiki it works in dapper and edgy...im assuming it works in jaunty too...
[21:10] <shadeslayer> topramen: probably
[21:10] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: I would assume such as well.
[21:11] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: does it work on the other OS?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> windows or such
[21:11] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: She's used the same card on XP (worked perfectly) and Windows 7 (connection constantly died because she didn't have a proper driver for it)
[21:11] <AndorinKato> Hold on a minute, everyone.
[21:12] <shadeslayer> sure
[21:12] <AndorinKato> Um.
[21:12] <AndorinKato> She got her computer open.
[21:12] <AndorinKato> Oh, wait, no, she hasn't gotten it open yet.
[21:12] <AndorinKato> But she can see the wireless card.
[21:13] <topramen> Shadeslayer:  i dont think it's bad because my kids watch this dvd all the time
[21:13] <AndorinKato> In her words, it looks "upside down.":
[21:13] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: tell her to make it straight :P
[21:13] <AndorinKato> She has to get it open first.
[21:13] <shadeslayer> isnt it supposed to look that way?
[21:13] <AndorinKato> It's open.
[21:14] <AndorinKato> She's going to examine it.
[21:14] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: tell her to push it in the slot properly
[21:14] <AndorinKato> This entire time I've been assuming that it was installed correctly because it was someone else who put it in, someone who's supposed to be computer-proficient.
[21:15] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[21:15] <AndorinKato> If we just spent two days fighting her computer and it turns out her card was not installed properly...
[21:16] <shadeslayer> \o/
[21:16] <BluesKaj> seated in the slot properly , makes all the difference :)
[21:16] <AndorinKato> Absolutely. >_>
[21:16] <AndorinKato> I guess we'll have to see.
[21:16] <shadeslayer> yeah
[21:19] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: done?
[21:20] <AndorinKato> Okay, she's got the card back in, so she's closing and reconnecting the computer now.
[21:21] <shadeslayer> :)
[21:21] <AndorinKato> She says it wasn't really upside down, but I had her remove it and reconnect it, then double-check that it's in correctly, just in case.
[21:24] <AndorinKato> Booting
[21:25] <BluesKaj> kind of difficult to seat a card updide down anyway :)
[21:25] <AndorinKato> Yeah, I'd imagine.
[21:25] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: mention me when its done and if lspci can see it or not :)
[21:25] <AndorinKato> ifconfig results:
[21:26] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: pastebin!
[21:26] <AndorinKato> ifconfig gives no wlan0, lspci gives nothing.
[21:26] <AndorinKato> She also isn't getting eth0 when she runs ifconfig.,
[21:26] <shadeslayer> arghh...
[21:27] <AndorinKato> ...
[21:27] <AndorinKato> By the way, guys.
[21:27] <shadeslayer> though it used to come up earlier?
[21:27] <AndorinKato> Remember how you had us remove the network manager in order to install wicd?
[21:27] <AndorinKato> I don't think her computer has a network manager atm.
[21:27] <AndorinKato> So she's going to try reinstalling the default manager.
[21:28] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: wont work...unless she has it in the apt-archives...
[21:28] <AndorinKato> She seems to think she can manage it.
[21:28] <ubuntu__> WTF?
[21:29] <ubuntu__> hi
[21:29] <AndorinKato> She says it's in package manager, so I guess it is.
[21:29] <AndorinKato> Except it's not reinstalling.
[21:29] <AndorinKato> As an absolute last resort she can always reset everything by reinstalling Kubuntu.
[21:30] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: haha....nice...
[21:30] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: tell you what...tell her to try an older version of kubuntu and see if the card works
[21:30] <AndorinKato> She says that if she can find a blank CD she's going to install Ubuntu instead, if she can't fix it today.
[21:30] <topramen_> is anyone familiar with this > http://paste.ubuntu.com/206522/
[21:30] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: She doesn't have an older version.
[21:32] <shadeslayer> hmm...youll have to google around then....imho its the drivers...keep asking here tho
[21:33] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Stumped? :P
[21:33] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, so you don't have even a 2 meter length of cat5 that she can connect her ethernet/dhcp to a modem/router ?...should have come with the modem/router
[21:34] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: absolutely...
[21:34] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: whats the point...we need to find proper drivers...
[21:34] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: There's one wired connection in her house, but apparently it's an iffy connection /plus/ she's not allowed to mess with it.
[21:34] <BluesKaj> the pc should have had an ethernet card installed  when she bought the pc
[21:36] <BluesKaj> kubuntu/HAL will see the ethernet card and autoconnect during boot up
[21:36] <AndorinKato> But I think right now she's more committed to just getting rid of Kubuntu.
[21:37] <BluesKaj> drivers shouldn't a problem with the latest kubuntus
[21:38] <topramen_> Blueskaj: did you take a look at that pastebin if so why are these people showing up in my netstat?
[21:38] <topramen_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/206522/
[21:40] <BluesKaj> topramen_, sites recently visited , maybe\
[21:41] <topramen_> no i have'nt visited amazon.com never
[21:41] <BluesKaj> networked router ?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> those could be hostmasks , dunno for sure , topramen_
[21:44] <topramen_> Blueskaj: what are hostmasks?<<
[21:45] <BluesKaj> !alternate
[21:45] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: did anyone check for a regression report in jaunty
[21:46] <AndorinKato> I think we're just going to have her install regular Ubuntu and try with that instead.
[21:46] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, what's the kubuntu live cd that install everything without an internet connection
[21:46] <harper> Can you help me with certifcates?
[21:46] <AndorinKato> Everyone who put time and effort into helping us, thanks a lot. Sorry that we ended up with no results.
[21:46] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, no wait
[21:47] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: actually the wiki on the wifi reports that it works in dapper and edgy...so i didnt....but i did google around....
[21:48] <topramen_> Can Anyone Tell Me What Are HostMasks<<?
[21:49] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- you mean the DVD that has more packages on the disc?
[21:49] <BluesKaj> yes, the one that installs everything without needing the internet sources
[21:49] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: The DVD isntal
[21:49] <Daskreech> The alternate can do it as well for a smaller number of files
[21:51] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, then you need the dvd install version , thereby getting all dependencies for apps and options like the latest python versions etc
[21:51] <shadeslayer> Daskreech:  linux-restricted-modules  << for the card...
[21:51] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=827622
[21:52] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: She has no blank DVDs, she says.
[21:53] <BluesKaj> bummer!
[21:54] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, what wifi card again ?
[21:54] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: D-link WDA 1320.
[21:54] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: i hope youve got it...im going out....ruby tutorial!
[21:59] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: That looks like an interesting link but means compiling madwifi
[22:00] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: She already did.
[22:02] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, it seems there are some issues with that card on jaunty .. no solutions posted in launchpad yet
[22:02] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: ok good can she run modprobe on the wifi and sudo modprobe -r on the ath stuff?
[22:03] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: "modprobe on the wifi" You mean the madwifi driver?
[22:05] <Taillecrayon> où suis-je?
[22:06] <AndorinKato> NOW her Kubuntu isn't detecting CDs that she puts in the drives, apparently.
[22:06] <AndorinKato> Error after error after error after error after error. I may simply kill her computer via the Internet.
[22:16] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: yes the wifi driver sorry
[22:18] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: I'm having her come into IRC on the downstairs computer.
[22:19] <AndorinKato> KittyKis: Talk to Daskreech and vice-versa.
[22:20] <KittyKis> Mk.
[22:20] <cuznt> kde4.2.2 athalon processor 2g ram  on my media/comby  (500g hd  it shows 280 of 458.4 free but 100% used)
[22:21] <Daskreech> hi KittyKis
[22:21] <Daskreech> What's up?
[22:21] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: It works on Jaunty?
[22:22] <KittyKis> well, I am she whom AndorinKato has been helping
[22:22] <KittyKis> here from downstairs computer
[22:22] <cuznt> i can see nothing in the hidden fildes
[22:22] <cuznt> files
[22:30] <JuJuBee> Does anyone here use kolab?
[22:33] <hubar> what is it?
[22:33] <hubar> kolab...
[22:33] <JuJuBee> groupware
[22:34] <JuJuBee> I have 2 users with a Palm phone and wish to sync to same data.
[22:45] <kubuntu_> need some help on a broken system, the computer froze while installing a pkg now apt-get get is broken
[22:46] <shadeslayer> !aptfix | kubuntu_
[22:46] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: anything else?
[22:46] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Erk sorry students were looking at a problem
[22:47] <Daskreech> Did you try to modprobe the madwifi and modprobe -r the ath ?
[22:47] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: It's ok, she's installing Ubuntu now anyway
[22:47] <kubuntu_> still broken
[22:47] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: whats the error?
[22:48] <kubuntu_> i think some pkgs didnt get configure
[22:48] <kubuntu_> totem-gstreamer seems to be one of them
[22:48] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: whats konsole showing?
[22:48] <kubuntu_> where should i paste it?
[22:48] <shadeslayer> pastebin
[22:49] <shadeslayer> !pastebin > kubuntu_
[22:51] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Ibex?
[22:51] <Daskreech> not 9.04 ?
[22:51] <JuJuBee> how do I add the extragear repo?
[22:51] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: pingping ?
[22:51] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Jaunty
[22:52] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: whatcha doing?
[22:52] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: teaching a UNIX class
[22:53] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: she's going to have the same problem they share the same driver. She needs either Ibex or Koala
[22:53] <Daskreech> 8.10 or 9.10
[22:54] <AndorinKato> Pretty sure Koala will have more than driver trouble./
[22:54] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: hehe....tell them about linux...Unix with a prettier dress
[22:55] <kubuntu_> so how do i configure the pkg, dpkg --configure totem-gstreamer is not working
[22:55] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: yep which is why you should probably be looking at Ibex. If she's installing 9.04 I'd personally just upgrade it to Koala for kicks to see if it fixes it
[22:55] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: have you tried the alt install cd ??
[22:55] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: no
[22:55] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: is it not supposed to support more h/w
[22:56] <AndorinKato> Well, it looks like the install CD is broken anyway.
[22:56] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: sudo dkg -i path_to_pkg should do everything that was left behind
[22:57] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: I don't see how that helps seeing as how the driver is installed and loaded
[22:57] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: or sudo apt-get install <everything_you_need> should work as well
[22:57] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: Pretty obvious the driver itself is broken
[22:57] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: ah..the driver is loaded...then ill shut up :)
[22:57] <kubuntu_> doesnt work, takes me to the error msg
[22:57] <kubuntu_> everything got installed just not configure
[22:57] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: which is?
[22:57] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: so she hasn't wiped anything yet?
[22:58] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: you havent told me what the error msg is till now
[22:58] <kubuntu_> i pasted it
[22:58] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: you didnt give me the URL -_-
[22:59] <kubuntu_> ah
[22:59] <kubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/206586/
[22:59] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Formatting happened already
[22:59]  * shadeslayer goes on reading more about ruby
[23:00] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Yes, it did.
[23:00] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu Tutorials Day going on in #kubuntu-devel, starting in a minute Artwork Tutorial  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay
[23:00] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Ahhh ha but it's not installing?
[23:01] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: sudo apt-get remove totem-gstreamer;sudo apt-get clean;sudo apt-get autoremove;sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer
[23:01] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Yes.
[23:01] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: another thing...._*never*_ work as root
[23:02] <AndorinKato> I guess the burn just didn't go well.
[23:02] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Still have a kubuntu CD ?
[23:02] <kubuntu_> shadeslayer: still nothing
[23:02] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: alternate or Live ?
[23:02] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: same error?
[23:03] <kubuntu_> yup
[23:03] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Yes, she has the live CD.
[23:03] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: hold on
[23:04] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: She has a Feisty Kubuntu CD.
[23:04] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: But she says that the wireless didn't work on it either.
[23:04] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Never mind that last, she never tried the wireless.
[23:05] <AndorinKato> ARGH
[23:05] <AndorinKato> She needs to STOP telling me conflicting things.
[23:05] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: no i think it started working out of the box for hardy onward. it's a Live CD?
[23:05] <AndorinKato> Okay, it didn't see the wireless but she didn't try anything to get it working.
[23:05] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Yes.
[23:05] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Hmm Poo
[23:05] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: sudo dpkg -a --configure --pending
[23:05] <Daskreech> then again she has no network so that trick of mine woudn't work
[23:06] <hubar> hmm anyone uses prism-google tools?
[23:06] <UltraBeatdown> Hello?
[23:06] <UltraBeatdown> GNOME is better. . .
[23:06] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Let me see if it worked in Gutsy
[23:07] <AndorinKato> Ok...
[23:07] <kubuntu_> shadeslayer: nothing hapened
[23:08] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: try updating now
[23:08] <kubuntu_> nothing 8(
[23:09] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: seems good. Question what kind of encryption is on the wireless she must join?
[23:09] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: ive tried with all my and sudo's might :(
[23:09] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: None.
[23:09] <kubuntu_> 8(
[23:10] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: boot up with e Feisty CD and tell me if she can't see the network card
[23:10] <Daskreech> It should be able to at least detect it
[23:10] <UltraBeatdown> GONE PWNS!
[23:10] <UltraBeatdown> *gnome
[23:11] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: try a restart :P
[23:11] <kubuntu_> k
[23:11] <JuJuBee> How do I install libgcal for 9.04?
[23:12] <shadeslayer> !info libgcal
[23:12] <JuJuBee> bummer.
[23:12] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: not in repo....grab it from somewhere else... :P
[23:12] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: or compile :)
[23:13] <JuJuBee> I want to install googledata for akonadi
[23:13] <shadeslayer> JuJuBee: try #akonadi
[23:13] <JuJuBee> don't want to end up compiling a bunch of stuff if I can avoid...
[23:13] <JuJuBee> Thanks.
[23:13] <UltraBeatdown> micro$oft sucks!
[23:14] <shadeslayer> UltraBeatdown: #kubuntu-offtopic please
[23:14] <UltraBeatdown> Why?
[23:14] <shadeslayer> UltraBeatdown: because this is a support channel
[23:14] <AndorinKato> UltraBeatdown: Because this channel is for help
[23:14] <UltraBeatdown> Oh, okay
[23:14] <shadeslayer> !ot > UltraBeatdown
[23:15] <kubuntu_> shadeslayer: think im getting somewhere with deselect
[23:15] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: It does not detect her card.
[23:15] <shadeslayer> kubuntu_: never used that....
[23:16] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: loads up the athdrivers?
[23:17] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: How can she check?
[23:17] <Daskreech> lsmod | grep ath
[23:19] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Nothing.
[23:20] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: i would recommend a better card :P
[23:20] <Daskreech> ah that's badish
[23:20] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211780
[23:20] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: but maybe they need to be loaded
[23:20] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Instructions?
[23:21] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: ive already read those.... :D
[23:21] <Daskreech> sudo modprobe ath_pci
[23:21] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: seems to work really well for most people
[23:22] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: i know...thats why my mind speaks " strange problem " :P
[23:22] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: I know man if i was by her side ...
[23:23] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: No output.
[23:23] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: haha...you would scare her half to death by terminal commands :D
[23:23] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: hooray :)
[23:23] <AndorinKato> Now what?
[23:23] <Daskreech> shadeslayer: I'd disappear for 15 minutes and come back with an answer
[23:23] <shadeslayer> hehe....
[23:24] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: Feistty?
[23:25] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: What?
[23:25] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Yes, she's in Feisty on the live CD. She's just loaded the driver. Now what?
[23:25] <shadeslayer> AndorinKato: does it connect :P
[23:26] <AndorinKato> shadeslayer: Nope.
[23:26] <Daskreech> can she see something in sudo ifconfig -a
[23:26] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: No.
[23:26] <Daskreech> iwconfig ?
[23:26] <AndorinKato> Nope.
[23:27] <shadeslayer> Daskreech: bug!!!
[23:27] <shadeslayer> that too a major one :)
[23:28] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: sudo lshw -C network
[23:28] <Daskreech> Does she see something like AR5005G 802.11abg ?
[23:29] <AndorinKato> It only shows her Ethernet controller.
[23:29] <AndorinKato> And no.
[23:30] <shadeslayer> im tired of quassel.... switching to irssi
[23:32] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: o_O
[23:32] <Daskreech> That's really strange.
[23:32] <Daskreech> it should at least turn up in lspci or lshw
[23:34] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: It's not showing up in either.
[23:35] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: in two different kernels?
[23:35] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Um, apparently so, since it's not showing up in either.
[23:35] <Daskreech> argh. Maybe she should use Windows 7 for now. There is something up with that connection that needs looking at but I can't diagnose it from here
[23:36] <Daskreech> unless there is a kill switch thats flipped
[23:37] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: She can't use her Windows 7 beta because it basically ran out. And it's on another hard drive that she doesn't want to swap out.
[23:38] <emilio> hola
[23:39] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: use the RC1
[23:39] <Daskreech> that runs until next year August I think and starts flaking out December this year
[23:39] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: As it happens she has it.
[23:39] <Daskreech> ^_^
[23:40] <emilio> alguien sabe configurar el im kopete
[23:40] <emilio> ?
[23:40] <Daskreech> I've a strong feeling there is something physically up with the card power or something else
[23:40] <Daskreech> !es
[23:40] <Daskreech> !ar
[23:40] <Daskreech> ^_^ :)
[23:42] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: Ok, but keep in mind that she did say that the card has worked befre.
[23:42] <AndorinKato> before*
[23:42] <Daskreech> Sorry have to run
[23:42] <AndorinKato> That's ok, thanks a lot for your help.
[23:42] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: I know but that doesn't mean it's 100%
[23:42] <Daskreech> AndorinKato: on the other hand she could have some other hardware that's conflicting though that's quite rare
[23:43] <AndorinKato> Daskreech: I thought of that, but if you say it's rare...
[23:44] <topramen_> is anyone here familiar with the DBAN hard drive wipe?<<
[23:45] <topramen_> is anyone here familiar with the DBAN hard drive wipe clean installation/or download?<<
[23:46] <shadeslayer> topramen_: see the man pages
[23:47] <shadeslayer> topramen_: man -k hint <<-search
[23:47] <shadeslayer> topramen_: and then man <package> to see the man page
[23:48] <topramen_> do that where at?
[23:48] <AndorinKato> topramen_: The terminal?
[23:48] <topramen_> and type what in the terminal?
[23:50] <ign0ramus> topramen_, DBAN is a boot disc
[23:50] <topramen_> huh!!!..someone told me that it was a hard drive wipe clean disc
[23:52] <topramen_> so what do you boot with DBAN?
[23:53] <ign0ramus> topramen_, Basically, you boot to that disc, follow the prompts, and it will do a DOD-Level wipe of your drive
[23:53] <ign0ramus> topramen_, there's also a Linux app called 'wipe'... never used it, though
[23:54] <topramen_> ign0ramus: and you walk me through it please?
[23:54] <ign0ramus> topramen_, darik will: http://www.dban.org/
[23:55] <topramen_> ok i will try