| billybigrigger | not funny, what a waste of good coffee | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| billybigrigger | i was tempted to drain it all back into the cup :P | 00:00 |
| lamalex | "bloody coffee" | 00:01 |
| lamalex | sounds gross dude | 00:01 |
| billybigrigger | heh | 00:01 |
| billybigrigger | i was trying to tone down on the f bombs | 00:01 |
| lamalex | :) | 00:02 |
| billybigrigger | still having grub problems? | 00:02 |
| lamalex | do you know how to set a default os in grub2 | 00:04 |
| billybigrigger | yes | 00:05 |
| RAOF | In /etc/default/grub, I believe. | 00:05 |
| billybigrigger | yes | 00:05 |
| billybigrigger | default=0 (or 1,2,3,4) | 00:06 |
| lamalex | and how do i determine which is which | 00:06 |
| billybigrigger | look in your grub.cfg | 00:06 |
| billybigrigger | and find which entry you want to set as default | 00:06 |
| billybigrigger | 0 1 2 3 4 from top to bottom in your grub.cfg entries | 00:06 |
| lamalex | where is grub.cfg? | 00:06 |
| billybigrigger | /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 00:07 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: couldn't all this stuff be in ONE place?!?! lol | 00:08 |
| billybigrigger | grub.cfg is not an actual config file, its compiled from /etc/grub.d/ | 00:08 |
| lamalex | yah man, it's all over | 00:08 |
| billybigrigger | ya its a mess | 00:08 |
| billybigrigger | well it is a config file, just not meant to be edited | 00:09 |
| billybigrigger | ALL grub2 config is done in /etc/grub.d/ and /etc/default/grub | 00:09 |
| billybigrigger | lamalex::: wanna pastebin your grub.cfg? | 00:10 |
| lamalex | billybigrigger: not really, now that i know where stuff is im ok | 00:10 |
| billybigrigger | cool beans | 00:10 |
| lamalex | thanks | 00:10 |
| billybigrigger | np | 00:11 |
| billybigrigger | btw for further reference https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Default%20Boot%20Entry | 00:11 |
| billybigrigger | or just simply https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 00:11 |
| BUGabundo | beans ? coffee beans ? | 00:11 |
| billybigrigger | i havent done any editing of it last week, but have been busy, this week i need to update some more stuff...but the bare basics for grub2 are there | 00:12 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo::: hehe if you want, just a stupid saying i guess :P | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: you mean ill get more wiki spam !? :p | 00:12 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo::: hehe, you sub'd to it :P | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | of course | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | need be kept up to date | 00:12 |
| BUGabundo | :) | 00:12 |
| billybigrigger | me too apparently | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | cwillu pointed out a bug i was not aware of | 00:13 |
| BUGabundo | just one? | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | but its my fault, i've been slacking | 00:13 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu is slacking | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | oh i bet there's more | 00:13 |
| BUGabundo | ok ok he was traveling, he has an excuse | 00:14 |
| BUGabundo | although cwillu won't tell me where he went :\\\ | 00:14 |
| * BUGabundo hates secrets | 00:14 | |
| billybigrigger | heh | 00:16 |
| lamalex | so when are banshee and empathy getting put into karmic? | 00:17 |
| * Twigathy does his daily update :) | 00:17 | |
| BUGabundo | Twigathy: daily??? I run it 3x day | 00:17 |
| BUGabundo | lamalex: err already are! | 00:17 |
| lamalex | hm | 00:18 |
| lamalex | not for me.. | 00:18 |
| Twigathy | ahh, I'm more of a desktop user rather than a tester though BUGabundo :) if I find something wrong I will report it though :D | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | !info banshee | 00:18 |
| ubottu | banshee (source: banshee): Media Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-5 (karmic), package size 2572 kB, installed size 8460 kB | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache policy banshee | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: (none) | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | Candidate: 1.4.3-5 | 00:18 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache policy empathy | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | Installed: 2.27.3-2ubuntu1 | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | lamalex: ^^^^^^^^ | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | already are | 00:19 |
| lamalex | yes, see how banshee says "universe" | 00:19 |
| BUGabundo | yes it does | 00:20 |
| lamalex | yes | 00:20 |
| lamalex | exactly | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | still its IN karmic | 00:20 |
| lamalex | i guess that depends as what you define as karmic | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | not main, but what ever | 00:20 |
| lamalex | is karmic the set of all software packages availble? is having a ppa enough to be considered "in karmic" | 00:20 |
| BUGabundo | lamalex: karmic (as any other version) is a set (current state) of an repo/archive | 00:20 |
| RAOF | lamalex: Dunno about Banshee, but empathy is in main and is seeded on the current daily CDs. | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | I do not consider a PPA a distro version , no | 00:21 |
| RAOF | (Geoloc support is currently disabled, though, pending some promotion-to-main for the dependencies) | 00:21 |
| lamalex | BUGabundo: yah, so in karmic should probably mean seeded/main | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | not for me | 00:22 |
| lamalex | so banshee is not really IN karmic | 00:22 |
| lamalex | it's available to karmic | 00:22 |
| RAOF | I think you're using an overly restricted definition for "in karmic". I think most people will take "in karmic" to mean "in an official repository". | 00:22 |
| RAOF | Not by default, yet, no. | 00:22 |
| lamalex | RAOF: not afraid to tell most people their definition is wrong | 00:23 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | with all the archive reorganization | 00:24 |
| BUGabundo | in one or two cycles there won't even be a Main | 00:24 |
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| cwillu | BUGabundo, was presuming it was the usual ext4 hanging bug (we know deletes trigger it, but we don't know that _only_ deletes trigger it) | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | ehehe | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | you do know its past mid night | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | my braind shut off a while agor | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | only fingers are still some what active | 00:34 |
| * BUGabundo Memory depleted. Please terminate Brain. \n bed | 00:49 | |
| virtuald | does everyone elses scrollwheel work as it should? :> | 00:57 |
| virtuald | plugged another mouse and it works without problems :> | 00:58 |
| billybigrigger | anyone having problems mounting an ipod? | 02:13 |
| poseidon | Any suggestions on whether I should upgrade to grub2? Anyone know of a good online how-to? | 02:25 |
| RAOF | The Ubuntu wiki page should be reasonable. | 02:25 |
| RAOF | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 | 02:26 |
| billybigrigger | you might as well upgrade and start getting used to it | 02:26 |
| billybigrigger | it is coming, and the grub devs aren't supporting grub legacy anymore | 02:27 |
| RAOF | That said, it's been coming for a _long_ time, and the grub devs haven't been supporting grub legacy for longer :) | 02:27 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 02:28 |
| billybigrigger | well the big push on the ubuntu side has only come since karmic afaik, correct me if im wrong | 02:28 |
| RAOF | Oh, yeah. That's right. | 02:31 |
| Sarvatt | woohoo, got gvfs all fixed up so mounts work again | 02:55 |
| Sarvatt | posted the patches i used here -- https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/393051 | 02:56 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 393051 in gvfs "Unable to mount any media in nautilus." [Undecided,New] | 02:56 |
| ripps | Sarvatt: I'm going to build a package and put in my testing ppa to see if it works. | 03:02 |
| Sarvatt | just uploaded a very unclean package that people will have to remember to revert when ubuntu updates it since I couldnt reuse the orig.tar.gz to https://edge.launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+archive/bugs | 03:04 |
| ripps | Sarvatt: what type of patching system does gvfs use? You shouldn't need to alter the orig.tar if it's patched from debian/ | 03:05 |
| Sarvatt | i couldnt patch it in debian like i said in the bug, tried that many times but it doesnt work adding them to the series | 03:06 |
| ripps | Ah... quilt. You can't just add the patch to the patches directory, you need to tell quilt what files it's allowed to edit | 03:06 |
| Sarvatt | it patched fine but its running something that screws it up | 03:06 |
| Sarvatt | it could end up patching fine just disabling 90_relibtoolize.patch and having the other 2 in the series, thats the only way i didnt check | 03:08 |
| Sarvatt | err building fine | 03:08 |
| Sarvatt | i dont know how all that junk works but 90_relibtoolize.patch was making it build correctly | 03:10 |
| Sarvatt | making it not build correctly, sorry | 03:10 |
| Sarvatt | i made that second patch because i needed to remove the stuff from the monitor/gdu/Makefile.in shipped in the orig.tar.gz | 03:11 |
| Sarvatt | if you get it working with the real orig.tar.gz lemme know :) | 03:12 |
| ripps | Sarvatt: this might not work, but try setting up the rules to run autogen,sh before building | 03:18 |
| Sarvatt | no autogen shipped | 03:18 |
| Sarvatt | or i would have :( | 03:18 |
| ripps | hmm.... how about adding `DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_LIBTOOL:= pre` to the rules? | 03:21 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: You can generally run 'autoreconf'; you don't necessarily need an autogen.sh. | 03:21 |
| ripps | my command will run libtoolize at the start of the build process | 03:22 |
| Sarvatt | well I will let someone else work that out, spent too many hours getting the patches working and wifes nagging me which is why i just posted the patches that work to the bug instead of putting up a debdiff :D | 03:24 |
| Sarvatt | start.S undefined reference to `main' was the error it was failing with adding them to the series with 90_relibtoolize.patch if it helps any | 03:28 |
| Sarvatt | put working debs here because launchpad is taking a year http://sarvatt.com/downloads/gvfs/ | 03:38 |
| Sarvatt | looking at it i guess all it would need is to disable 90_relibtoolize.patch and add the git commit patch, the relibtoolize one looks like it just enables maintainer mode making the .in's not get rebuilt | 03:58 |
| ripps | Sarvatt: hmm... whenever I try to build a package with your patches in debian, it starts building but I keep getting a build error along the way. | 05:27 |
| ripps | gvfs_gdu_volume_monitor-ggduvolume.o: In function `mount_cb': | 05:27 |
| ripps | "/tmp/buildd/gvfs-1.3git20090512/monitor/gdu/ggduvolume.c:795" | 05:32 |
| tgpraveen | bug 195737 | 08:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 195737 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main "Set "open" animation to glide 2, not glide 1" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195737 | 08:10 |
| RichardWolfVI | Hello, I'm having several issues af of yesterday, the first is having this after logon: Error activating XKB configuration. | 12:00 |
| RichardWolfVI | my keyboard configuration is borked | 12:00 |
| RichardWolfVI | oh, and debconf is failing also | 12:10 |
| dupondje | somebody around ? | 12:25 |
| dupondje | & upgraded gvfs :p | 12:25 |
| Wicla | anyone else with bug 393433 and want to confirm? tags: suspend, intel | 12:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 393433 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[karmic] Restoring from suspend ends up with blank screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393433 | 12:39 |
| robin0800 | Trying to mount Mp3 player Bug ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/206187/ | 12:41 |
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| === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch | ||
| arand | apt wants to remove #hotkey-setup libempathy-gtk23 libempathy25 mono-2.0-runtime mono-common mono-jit, is that reasonable? | 13:15 |
| virtuald | why's there no epiphany-webkit? | 13:17 |
| virtuald | false alarm :p | 13:18 |
| virtuald | looked at the wrong box | 13:18 |
| virtuald | but why did it get removed on upgrade? | 13:18 |
| virtuald | and replaced with gecko | 13:19 |
| RichardWolfVI | arand> Yes, it-s normal | 13:27 |
| RichardWolfVI | *it's | 13:27 |
| arand | RichardWolfVI: it's the hotkey-setup I'm worried about though, that one is supposed to still be in, innit? | 13:30 |
| Sarvatt | nope hotkey-setup is dead now | 13:40 |
| RichardWolfVI | arand: they're moving away from HAL altogether | 13:48 |
| RichardWolfVI | I can-t install updates as of yesterday | 13:58 |
| BUGabundo | RichardWolfVI: what is the error? | 14:00 |
| BUGabundo | what apt interface are you using ? | 14:00 |
| RichardWolfVI | BUGabundo: either apt-get, synaptic or aptitude | 14:00 |
| BUGabundo | humm that's *bad* | 14:00 |
| BUGabundo | is it the apt_check crash? | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo | I had that, after a reboot, apt-get worked again, but aptitude no | 14:01 |
| RichardWolfVI | BUGabundo: also, my keyboard configuration is faulty | 14:01 |
| BUGabundo | RichardWolfVI: why? | 14:02 |
| mvo | RichardWolfVI: what is the error you get? | 14:03 |
| BUGabundo | hey mvo. long time no see! [[]] | 14:03 |
| mvo | hey BUGabundo | 14:03 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: Error activating XKB configuration. | 14:03 |
| BUGabundo | RichardWolfVI: I think mvo meant the apt error eheh | 14:04 |
| RichardWolfVI | oh, i'll paste the output | 14:04 |
| BUGabundo | !paste | RichardWolfVI | 14:05 |
| ubottu | RichardWolfVI: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic | 14:05 |
| RichardWolfVI | I guess I'll paste it in English | 14:05 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/206247/ | 14:09 |
| RichardWolfVI | BUGabundo, that's also for you | 14:09 |
| RichardWolfVI | My guess is that debconf and perl are pretty messed up. | 14:10 |
| ripps | I don't get it, usually when I update-manager wants to do a partial upgrade, it wants to remove something, but I only get upgrades with this one. | 14:11 |
| BUGabundo | err | 14:11 |
| BUGabundo | ripps: please avoid Partial Updates | 14:11 |
| BUGabundo | it usually means depencies are still unbuilt | 14:11 |
| ripps | BUGabundo: so... do I ignore it for now? | 14:12 |
| BUGabundo | so if you force it, you may end up removing packages | 14:12 |
| BUGabundo | well, just don't do any more upgrades | 14:12 |
| BUGabundo | try back in a few hours | 14:12 |
| ripps | apparently udev is being kept back | 14:12 |
| BUGabundo | or if you are in an hurry, try aptitude safe-upgrade | 14:12 |
| BUGabundo | it does handle upgrades way better then apt-get or UM | 14:13 |
| BUGabundo | ripps: yeah, udev touchs pleanty of stuff | 14:13 |
| ripps | will these updates fix the mounting issues I've had with ntfs drives? | 14:13 |
| ripps | I've been forced to use pmount on them for a while now | 14:14 |
| BUGabundo | ripps: don't we all hope so?? eheh please check the change log! | 14:15 |
| BUGabundo | mvo: still around ? can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/393459 thanks | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 393459 in compiz "Compiz Window Previews wrong position" [Undecided,New] | 14:15 |
| ripps | hmm.. according to karmic-changes, they've uploaded 3 consectutive udev updates, must be having issues. | 14:16 |
| BUGabundo | humm that's for the heads up! *I* better not upgrade yet eheh . better stay with a known broken package that to get more brakeage ehehe | 14:17 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, updates. I've been meaning to do that | 14:20 |
| ripps | Also, it seems there removing udev-extras from ubuntu-standard according to the changelog on the upcoming ubuntu-meta source | 14:21 |
| BUGabundo | Hobbsee: ahah | 14:23 |
| ripps | Hmm.... it seems that linux-image_2.6.31 was built several days ago, I wonder when they plan on letting us try it out? Probably when they've fixed all the gvfs issues, before they throw in a potentionally unstable kernel at us | 14:27 |
| Hobbsee | unlikely | 14:28 |
| Hobbsee | probably the next time someone goes though the new queue to process it | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo | ripps it was planed for august! | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo | it can't/shouldn't be out NOW | 14:28 |
| Hobbsee | oh, 2.6.31? interesting | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo | ripps: you have them all on Mainline kernel team PPA | 14:28 |
| BUGabundo | ripps: Hobbsee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds | 14:29 |
| Hobbsee | right, yeah | 14:29 |
| * Hobbsee didn't check said new queue before assuming it had turned up there | 14:29 | |
| BUGabundo | I love to see the daily http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/ at 17/06 LOL | 14:29 |
| ripps | Well, according to karmic-changes, someone uploaded it to be built.... it produced several varieties of kernels, generic, generic-pae, and a variety of arches, not just i386 and amd64.... I suppose it could be for personal testing of the core-devs | 14:30 |
| Pici | You could always ask in #ubuntu-kernel | 14:31 |
| RichardWolfVI | BUGabundo: any ideas on these errors I told you_ | 14:31 |
| RichardWolfVI | ? | 14:32 |
| BUGabundo | RichardWolfVI: mvo would be your guy! no idea where he went! | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo | I don't do much pearl... but it could be a bad package | 14:33 |
| BUGabundo | Pici: or we could just nag a_p_w | 14:34 |
| Pici | BUGabundo: I prefer not to ping specific people unless its really a big issue. | 14:34 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo> hope you-re checking on my issue :/ | 14:35 |
| mvo | RichardWolfVI: hm, could you try to reinstall perl? | 14:35 |
| BUGabundo | Pici: me too. that's why I avoided it :) | 14:35 |
| mvo | RichardWolfVI: apt-get install --reinstall liburi-perl ? | 14:36 |
| mvo | RichardWolfVI: please make that "apt-ge tinstall --reinstall perl-base" | 14:37 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo> Will try that again | 14:38 |
| BUGabundo | have to go! see you guys and galls later! | 14:38 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: same debconf error | 14:41 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/206267/ | 14:43 |
| mvo | RichardWolfVI: please try "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-base_<tab> " directly | 14:45 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo> Syntax error | 14:46 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: is that the right command? | 14:46 |
| RichardWolfVI | I guess it was a Wild card | 14:48 |
| mvo | RichardWolfVI: well, <tab> should be exchanged with the tab key (for tab-completion in the shell) | 14:48 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: got it | 14:48 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: done, now what? | 14:48 |
| mvo | please try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" next | 14:49 |
| mvo | and see if debconf is now more happy | 14:49 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: done | 14:49 |
| RichardWolfVI | I-m retrying the upgrade | 14:49 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: You made it! | 14:50 |
| RichardWolfVI | mvo: Thak you so much :D | 14:51 |
| RichardWolfVI | *Thank | 14:51 |
| RichardWolfVI | OK, I'm restarting | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 15:15 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Can some of you check if closing any jamendo page makes firefox crash in karmic? | 15:19 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | it happens to me | 15:19 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Closing any window containing a flash applet, actually | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | Anyone know what "HPLJ 10XX Replaced Paper" is? It shows up in a fresh Karmic install under Applications -> System | 15:21 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | charlie-tca: no idea but can confirm it's there and on my system just opens a window saying that I do not have such a thing as an HPLJ 10XX | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks. I don't even have a printer installed on mine yet | 15:23 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | charlie-tca: can you check if firefox crashes when closing a flash window? | 15:26 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | charlie-tca: only if you are actually on karmic ATM | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | No, I don't have flash installed | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | sorry | 15:27 |
| RichardWolfVI | Hello, now that the perl issue seems solved, I need to fix another one | 15:27 |
| RichardWolfVI | I get "Error activating XKB configuration." each time I log on | 15:29 |
| RichardWolfVI | my keyboard is misconfigured, my layout seems to be stuck at US, but my keyboard is Latin American | 15:30 |
| RichardWolfVI | I'm getting the following text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/206296/ | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | RichardWolfVI, I have to ask the obvious question : have youenabled KB layout / locale in system settings ? | 15:42 |
| RichardWolfVI | BluesKaj" yes, I did | 15:43 |
| RichardWolfVI | I'll double-check | 15:43 |
| RichardWolfVI | BluesKaj: checked yet again | 15:44 |
| RichardWolfVI | aside from being unable to type comfortably, my "media keys" don't work either | 15:45 |
| BluesKaj | have you tried choosing any of the KBs listed in the dropdown there? | 15:47 |
| RichardWolfVI | BluesKaj: yes, I get the same error, over and over again | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | RichardWolfVI, what KB is it / | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 15:49 |
| RichardWolfVI | BluesKaj: Latin American | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | make & model ? | 15:49 |
| RichardWolfVI | Microsoft Basic Keyboard 500 | 15:50 |
| berniv6 | anyone know of a "X doesn't start" issue with karmic? Started in the last five days, the usplash bar just hangs at about 70% and then drops to console | 15:50 |
| berniv6 | latest message is "* Cleaning up temporary files..." | 15:51 |
| RichardWolfVI | berniv6> Which kernel? | 15:51 |
| berniv6 | Intel graphics, I tried with both stock Karmic packages and xorg-edgers | 15:51 |
| berniv6 | RichardWolfVI: 2.6.30-9, 2.6.30-10 and 2.6.31-1 (manually installed) | 15:51 |
| RichardWolfVI | berniv6: I have isues with PAE kernels | 15:52 |
| berniv6 | RichardWolfVI: amd64 platform, no PAE involved as far as I understand | 15:52 |
| berniv6 | I'm not even sure it's X related as there should be a lot more messages between cleaning the temporary files and starting GDM | 15:54 |
| BluesKaj | RichardWolfVI, look in KB layout advanced and see what's checked in Xkb options, if anything . | 15:54 |
| berniv6 | it boots fine in recovery mode, but then starting X gives me the same result, just a black screen | 15:54 |
| berniv6 | no help booting with nomodeset either | 15:54 |
| roland_ | Hi, I'm running karmic with kde beta 2. There are some features missing from vanilla kde but perhaps I'm just missing some packages: nepomuk search bar in dolphin (instead I have one additional empty toolbar), The QEdge wallpaper plugin, some desktop types like the black board | 15:55 |
| Sarvatt | can you pastebin a /var/log/Xorg.0.log from a failed boot? (probably under Xorg.0.log.old) | 15:56 |
| Sarvatt | @berniv6 | 15:57 |
| BluesKaj | Sarvatt, the @berniv6 , doesn't highlight on irc | 16:01 |
| berniv6 | it does for me | 16:01 |
| berniv6 | okay, I'm not sure anymore it's X related | 16:01 |
| berniv6 | the timestamps of /var/log/Xorg.* are older than my last boot attempts | 16:01 |
| Sarvatt | was only 2 minutes after he said something, was just saying it to clarify it was directed at him and not roland_ :D | 16:02 |
| berniv6 | since I reboot with Sysrq-SUB it should be never if Xorg was attempted to start | 16:02 |
| berniv6 | I now set VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/rcS and now the last message I see is "Setting up ICE socket directory /tmp/.ICE-unix...2 | 16:02 |
| Sarvatt | can you get a dmesg from a failed boot? | 16:04 |
| berniv6 | hardly ... I can't get a console :-( | 16:04 |
| takeitbythehand | anyone have a workaround to get sound working with the latest stuff? | 16:04 |
| RichardWolfVI | BluesKaj: no, nothing out of usual | 16:04 |
| RichardWolfVI | I even made an xfix | 16:05 |
| berniv6 | is there anything to be executed between /etc/rcS.d/S70x11-common (the last in /etc/rcS.d) and the first in /etc/rc3.d? | 16:08 |
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| Sarvatt | how about a /var/log/kern.log? | 16:09 |
| Sarvatt | can you try i915.modeset=0 instead of nomodeset? nomodeset might not be getting passed early enough since i915 is in the initrd now, i'm not sure | 16:10 |
| berniv6 | trying that now ... I guess kern.log doesn't help since it will be overwritten when I attempt to boot into recovery mode | 16:11 |
| berniv6 | modeset=0 doesn't help either, same error (but no KMS) | 16:11 |
| Pici | berniv6: You could always try a live-cd or other boot method | 16:11 |
| berniv6 | hrm, right, will do | 16:12 |
| RichardWolfVI | I fixed the issue by reinstalling xorg | 16:13 |
| berniv6 | /var/log/kern.log isn't written, as it doesn't get to the point where to start syslogd | 16:14 |
| RichardWolfVI | OK, see ya | 16:16 |
| berniv6 | okay, something with my boot process is fishy | 16:17 |
| berniv6 | I put a debugging statement in the last job in rcS.d (x11-common) and in the first job in rc3.d (policykit) | 16:17 |
| berniv6 | at the end of the x11-common job and in the very beginning of policykit | 16:18 |
| berniv6 | I see the first but not the latter | 16:18 |
| berniv6 | aha! | 16:23 |
| berniv6 | when I manually specify the target runlevel on the bootprompt ("3") it boots just fine | 16:23 |
| berniv6 | where should it get that information from? | 16:24 |
| charlie-tca | Well, Isn't rc2.d the default for Ubuntu? | 16:26 |
| berniv6 | works with "2" as well | 16:26 |
| berniv6 | now only remaining issue, with 2.6.31-1 the display is initialized in 1024x768, with 2.6.30-10 in 1920x1200 | 16:29 |
| berniv6 | uploading Xorg logs | 16:29 |
| berniv6 | http://users.birkenwald.de/~berni/temp/xorg-2.6.31-1 and http://users.birkenwald.de/~berni/temp/xorg-2.6.30-10 | 16:33 |
| Pici | Karmic has .31 already? | 16:34 |
| berniv6 | it's uploaded, not yet installed | 16:35 |
| berniv6 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/2.6.31-1.13 | 16:35 |
| miik | does proprietary nvidia drivers work with Ubuntu 9.04 "Karmic Koala" alpha? | 16:50 |
| miik | err, 9.10 i meant | 16:50 |
| mahfiaz | miik, for me these work | 16:54 |
| mahfiaz | assaultcube plays fine on T61 | 16:54 |
| miik | cool | 16:54 |
| miik | is 9.10 stable for you? | 16:55 |
| miik | many glitches? | 16:55 |
| mahfiaz | miik, dbus does not work, this means automounting of usb drives fail | 16:56 |
| mahfiaz | thunderbird doesn't start for unknown reason | 16:57 |
| miik | oh | 16:57 |
| mahfiaz | mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt -o utf8 works just as expected | 16:57 |
| mahfiaz | also, missing dbus renders nm-applet unusable | 16:58 |
| miik | aff | 16:58 |
| miik | but internet work? | 16:58 |
| mahfiaz | networkmanager connects fine, you just cannot set it up | 16:59 |
| mahfiaz | to connect to wifi for example | 16:59 |
| miik | ok | 16:59 |
| mahfiaz | as always, command line counterparts are available | 16:59 |
| mahfiaz | like sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "mynetwork" && sudo dhclient wlan0 | 16:59 |
| miik | LAN internet network ethernet | 17:00 |
| miik | any kernel panics? crashes? freezes? reboots? | 17:00 |
| mahfiaz | no crashes, panics or things like that so far | 17:00 |
| miik | cool | 17:01 |
| mahfiaz | though my laptops graphics card is sometimes bad of heating and ends up crashing, but this isn't an issue of software | 17:01 |
| miik | oh | 17:01 |
| mahfiaz | bad for me :) | 17:02 |
| miik | ya | 17:02 |
| mahfiaz | miik, btw, there is bot udev and gvfs update today, this may fix the usb problem | 17:08 |
| mahfiaz | s/bot/both | 17:08 |
| miik | oh | 17:09 |
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| bullgard4 | What do Ubuntu developers intend to accomplish in Karmic? Where can I find an overview on that? | 17:15 |
| BluesKaj | bullgard4, perhaps if yo clicked on the "testing" URL in the Welcome message | 17:28 |
| bullgard4 | BluesKaj: What Welcome message do you mean? What URL? | 17:30 |
| charlie-tca | Might have to look at the blueprints in launchpad and specs in the wiki | 17:33 |
| BluesKaj | bullgard4, at the top of the chatpage | 17:37 |
| bullgard4 | BluesKaj: I do not understand what do you mean by "chatpage". | 18:01 |
| BluesKaj | bullgard4, there is a welcome message that lists kubuntu support URLs when you join the channel ..if you are running irssi then you'll have to scroll waaaay up to find it. | 18:05 |
| charlie-tca | BluesKaj: Sure that would be in #ubuntu+1? | 18:13 |
| BluesKaj | bullgard4, www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha2 | 18:13 |
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| Twigathy | hm. | 18:14 |
| Twigathy | I think the latest update to udev broke this computer \o/ | 18:15 |
| Twigathy | oh, nope, udev start finally returned | 18:15 |
| Twigathy | ooo, not good. Now if I open a terminal I don't get a new bash prompt.... help! | 18:22 |
| Twigathy | hm, something must have got wedged in an interesting way. Rebooted and it's working... | 18:30 |
| bullgard4 | BluesKaj: Great! This is what I was looking for. -- Thank you very much for your help. | 18:33 |
| BluesKaj | NP :) | 18:35 |
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| astenorh | Hello everyone | 19:47 |
| astenorh | where should I report a kernel panic? | 19:48 |
| charlie-tca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug to file a bug report or ask in #ubuntu-kernel | 19:49 |
| DoYouKnow | hi... anyone know how to get dell 1505 wireless working on karmic? | 20:02 |
| DoYouKnow | I've tried ndiswrapper in the past but it didn't work | 20:02 |
| DoYouKnow | with the drivers I was using on windows... although there are several other windows drivers included in the dell install dvd | 20:02 |
| DoYouKnow | that I haven't tried | 20:02 |
| BluesKaj | DoYouKnow, try wicd | 20:02 |
| DoYouKnow | BluesKaj, but it's the drivers that are the problem | 20:06 |
| BluesKaj | the generic driver is well wriiten to fit most wifi cards | 20:06 |
| DoYouKnow | what should I use for drivers for dell 1505? | 20:09 |
| DoYouKnow | hello? | 20:09 |
| DoYouKnow | BluesKaj, it's not the wireless manager that's the problem | 20:10 |
| DoYouKnow | it's the drivers | 20:10 |
| DoYouKnow | I need dell 1505 drivers | 20:10 |
| DoYouKnow | " with the drivers I was using on windows..." | 20:10 |
| Sarvatt | sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source if its a BCM4321, it doesnt help theres alot of different cards that could be in there | 20:11 |
| BluesKaj | DoYouKnow, just try it ..it won't break your ssytem | 20:12 |
| DoYouKnow | it didn't work | 20:14 |
| DoYouKnow | I don't even see the wireless device | 20:14 |
| DoYouKnow | I tried it and it didn't work' | 20:14 |
| BluesKaj | di you try to set up preferences | 20:15 |
| Wicla | anyone else with bug 393433 and want to confirm? tags: suspend, intel | 20:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 393433 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[karmic] Restoring from suspend ends up with blank screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393433 | 20:16 |
| DoYouKnow | BluesKaj, what will that do? | 20:17 |
| DoYouKnow | I currently don't have a working driver afaik | 20:17 |
| BluesKaj | set up the driver and encryption | 20:17 |
| DoYouKnow | which driver? | 20:18 |
| BluesKaj | wext | 20:21 |
| iPoRn | when i try to mount a cdrom, i get this error, and it doesn't mount: org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.NotAuthorized: org.freedesktop.devicekit.disks.filesystem-mount no, what could it be? | 20:23 |
| DoYouKnow | is keyserver.ubuntu.com down? | 20:29 |
| DoYouKnow | I'm trying to install the driver | 20:30 |
| coz_ | hey guys to days updates apparently killed my sound card ..it kicks in during boot but I get a notification from Phonon that my card does not work now | 20:36 |
| coz_ | http://picpaste.com/snapshot2.png | 20:36 |
| coz_ | also right click on link in xchat I get error saying "cannot find the program 'aroroa" ?? | 20:38 |
| coz_ | arora | 20:39 |
| DoYouKnow | how do I get broadcom-sta working in karmic? | 20:41 |
| DoYouKnow | what's the easiest way you guys think? | 20:41 |
| Sarvatt | DoYouKnow: bcmwl-kernel-source=broadcom-sta | 21:07 |
| DoYouKnow | what's that? | 21:08 |
| DoYouKnow | I don't understnad | 21:08 |
| DoYouKnow | *understand | 21:08 |
| DoYouKnow | Sarvatt, is that the easiest way to support a broadcom 802.11n card? | 21:12 |
| DoYouKnow | I had some severe problems on hardy with this driver | 21:14 |
| DoYouKnow | random disconnects | 21:15 |
| DoYouKnow | so I am wary | 21:15 |
| DoYouKnow | this has really been a lot of work | 21:15 |
| DoYouKnow | I had a laptop under $1000 that worked better with linux than this one | 21:17 |
| DoYouKnow | and this was very expensive | 21:17 |
| DoYouKnow | so... it's kind of upsetting | 21:17 |
| DoYouKnow | this is an xps m1530 | 21:18 |
| BluesKaj | DoYouKnow, wicd looks at your hardware wifi/wln0/eth0 connection and determines which driver to use in it's arsenal so to speak | 21:18 |
| DoYouKnow | now I get package wicd has no installation candidate | 21:20 |
| DoYouKnow | what did I do now...heh.. | 21:20 |
| BluesKaj | DoYouKnow, uninstall any other wifi drivers | 21:22 |
| DoYouKnow | hmm | 21:24 |
| DoYouKnow | I don't think any are installed right now | 21:24 |
| DoYouKnow | but I definitely did something | 21:24 |
| Twigathy | hm. | 21:26 |
| Twigathy | PolicyKit stuff seems to have broken my pulseaudio | 21:26 |
| Twigathy | I get some badness if I do -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv[etc] when launching pulse: | 21:26 |
| Twigathy | I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted | 21:26 |
| Twigathy | I: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not permitted | 21:26 |
| Twigathy | Anybody else run into problems? | 21:27 |
| DoYouKnow | I'm still getting the wicd has no installation candidate message | 21:58 |
| DoYouKnow | is there any way to get around this without reinstalling kubuntu? | 21:58 |
| DoYouKnow | well, it looks like I'm going to have to redo it | 22:04 |
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