| SiDi | macvr: hey | 08:02 |
|---|---|---|
| SiDi | macvr: sebastian meant the nm-icons on the panel ;) | 08:02 |
| macvr | SiDi: i know , but then we would have to use the human notify-osd icons | 08:02 |
| SiDi | hm | 08:03 |
| macvr | SiDi: to prevent that , I'm doing the wireless notify-osd icons for breathe. | 08:04 |
| macvr | shall i do it in color? or is it against some notify-osd rules?! | 08:04 |
| SiDi | color forbidden | 08:08 |
| SiDi | black and white except for emergency icons | 08:08 |
| macvr | ah... ok... | 08:10 |
| macvr | SiDi: also do the icons have to be only in 48px? anything bigger doesnt seem to get rendered well | 08:11 |
| SiDi | they have to be svg only | 08:11 |
| SiDi | :D | 08:11 |
| macvr | SiDi: i have tried using 128 px svg , but output aint that clear :( | 08:11 |
| SiDi | oh | 08:12 |
| SiDi | display the grid in inkscape | 08:12 |
| SiDi | make sure your paths are on the grid, not between lines of the grid | 08:12 |
| macvr | the grid aint the problem... i'v tested not with my nm icons but with various other icons | 08:12 |
| macvr | have to ask macslow about this | 08:13 |
| * macvr will be back | 08:14 | |
| macvr | SiDi: testing... | 08:33 |
| SiDi | Testing what , :P | 08:33 |
| macvr | andreasn: i thought you hadnt seen my request to post your comment on that bug , hence i quoted you from here... :) | 10:26 |
| andreasn | I did, but then I watched a movie and went offline | 10:26 |
| andreasn | so I felt a bit embarrassed that I didn't read your comment first :) | 10:27 |
| macvr | i didnt know since you hadnt responded ... | 10:27 |
| macvr | andreasn: actually there is more spam on lp... the link and your comment was useful | 10:28 |
| === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi | ||
| macvr | Hi, does anyone know how to scale down the document in inkscape... I'm just not able to find it! i can see scale of the image option ...but how do i scale the whole document? | 15:21 |
| kwwii | macvr: you want to make the page smaller? | 15:27 |
| macvr | yup | 15:27 |
| macvr | along with the image | 15:27 |
| kwwii | file->document properties | 15:27 |
| kwwii | hrm, don't know how to do it with scaling the contents as well | 15:28 |
| kwwii | inkscape used to that by default | 15:28 |
| macvr | it is just that i have an 128 px svg , i want to convert it to 48px... | 15:29 |
| kwwii | well, you can scale it down but in the end it will be better to redraw it it fits to the pixel raster | 15:30 |
| macvr | kwwii: do you know info about the notify-osd icons? | 15:30 |
| kwwii | macvr: yeah, I am making a new package today | 15:30 |
| macvr | i'm actually doing it for testing purpose, hence didnt want to spned time on redoing stuff | 15:30 |
| kwwii | as we speak, so to speak | 15:31 |
| macvr | kwwii: the human notify-osd icons are of 48px size in the scalable folder , why? | 15:31 |
| macvr | also i notice the 128 px dont display well if used in the scalable | 15:32 |
| kwwii | macvr: because that is the size they are being shown at so they were optimized for that size | 15:32 |
| macvr | kwwii: its just i have to explain to Cory when i do them! he insists on getting everything in all the sizes... | 15:33 |
| macvr | kwwii: so doing the icons in 48px is enough? Only for notify-osd | 15:33 |
| kwwii | in the end, you will have to make more than one svg for each icon as the different sizes do need different svg sources | 15:33 |
| kwwii | but for the notify-osd stuff we only need them at 48x48 | 15:34 |
| kwwii | and anyway, they would be really easy to create at larger sizes if needed | 15:34 |
| kwwii | because teh style is so simple there is little extra you can add to a larger size | 15:34 |
| macvr | its just that they arent as crisp as the 128px original icons | 15:35 |
| macvr | displayed^ | 15:35 |
| macvr | i find when the icons are done in 48px , they get displayed perfectly | 15:35 |
| macvr | kwwii: I'm gonna quote you on this... ;p | 15:35 |
| macvr | Else Cory wont believe me :( | 15:36 |
| kwwii | have him talk to me if he doesn't believe you | 15:36 |
| macvr | \o/ | 15:37 |
| kwwii | in the end, he might say he wants them all at a larger size anyway | 15:37 |
| macvr | kwwii: larger size is not a prob for me, i already have it done, its just Not a sharp image... | 15:38 |
| macvr | kwwii: also is it against the specs to use color for the icons other than warnings? | 15:38 |
| kwwii | no, that rule is only for the notify-osd icons and doesn't apply to the breathe stuff anyway (unless breathe decides to keep the same style for those icons) | 15:40 |
| macvr | ok... :) | 15:43 |
| SiDi | kwwii: notify-osd doesnt use 48x48 png | 15:59 |
| SiDi | it uses svg afaik :-| | 15:59 |
| kwwii | yes, you are right | 16:00 |
| kwwii | but I never said it uses png, did I? | 16:01 |
| macvr | kwwii: SiDi is blind somethimes ;p | 16:01 |
| macvr | times^ | 16:01 |
| SiDi | [16:36] <macvr> kwwii: so doing the icons in 48px is enough? Only for notify-osd | 16:03 |
| SiDi | [16:37] <kwwii> but for the notify-osd stuff we only need them at 48x48 | 16:03 |
| kwwii | SiDi: the svg's themselves are at 48x48 :p | 16:03 |
| * SiDi goes bed. | 16:03 | |
| SiDi | Oh, its 5PM, cant go bed | 16:03 |
| * SiDi hits head on the wall then | 16:04 | |
| kwwii | :p | 16:04 |
| knome | lol | 16:05 |
| SiDi | kwwii: managed to put my icons in Human yet, btw ? :p | 16:07 |
| SiDi | Cause i'll have to patch the horrible gnome-settings-daemon once its done (note that i have no idea how to make a debian patch) | 16:07 |
| kwwii | SiDi: yeah, i have a new human icon package I am working on today | 16:08 |
| kwwii | it should be ready within a few hours | 16:09 |
| SiDi | oh great | 16:11 |
| kwwii | btw, everyone can join #kubuntu-devel at 0:00 cet to join in my chat about making an oxygen icon | 16:36 |
| * SiDi will be at cinema. But anyway /me doesnt make icons | 16:38 | |
| SiDi | macvr: why the hell did you assign half of launchpad to notify-osd ? :p | 16:54 |
| macvr | SiDi: was feeling bored ;p | 16:55 |
| macvr | btw it was just 2 bugs! | 16:55 |
| SiDi | :p | 16:56 |
| macvr | SiDi: even macslow didnt realize it when he first commented! | 16:57 |
| macvr | SiDi: only today he came to his senses ;p | 16:58 |
| SiDi | xD | 16:59 |
| macvr | kwwii: where can i find the notify-osd icons source? | 17:25 |
| kwwii | macvr: they are in the scalable dir of the icon theme | 18:08 |
| macvr | kwwii: i know that , but all the fields are unset! so i thought the source could give me a better picture of how it was done | 18:10 |
| kwwii | fields? | 18:10 |
| macvr | kwwii: BTW how do you guys do that? unset? even though colors are present | 18:10 |
| kwwii | ahhh, that is the build system reducing the size | 18:10 |
| macvr | kwwii: the fill/ stroke | 18:10 |
| kwwii | so anything black doesn't need to be set | 18:11 |
| kwwii | ie it defaults to black | 18:11 |
| macvr | kwwii: but the grey , transparency . | 18:11 |
| kwwii | you have to ungroup things, you know | 18:11 |
| kwwii | everything is in the svg, I promise | 18:11 |
| macvr | i did that | 18:12 |
| kwwii | which one are you working on? | 18:12 |
| macvr | i was doing wireless icons... but i checked the ethernet notify icon | 18:12 |
| kwwii | if you select an object look in the status bar whether it is a group or not | 18:14 |
| kwwii | it might be grouped several times | 18:14 |
| macvr | I'm not able to identify the transparency level of the border | 18:14 |
| macvr | wait , let me try again | 18:14 |
| kwwii | it is 30% transparent and black | 18:15 |
| macvr | kwwii: nope... :( , could check the notification-network-ethernet-connected.svg , I just want to know the border transparency level | 18:15 |
| macvr | ooops | 18:15 |
| macvr | ok | 18:15 |
| kwwii | the opacity of the entire object is set to 30% | 18:16 |
| macvr | you are saying for the border , just to confirm? | 18:17 |
| kwwii | yes, the very outer border | 18:17 |
| kwwii | it does not have a stroke to it | 18:17 |
| kwwii | it is a path with a hole in the middle | 18:18 |
| kwwii | and although the fill says unset, that means black in svg terms | 18:18 |
| macvr | that i noticed | 18:18 |
| kwwii | and the entire object is set to be 30% opaque | 18:18 |
| macvr | i just couldnt identify the transparency level! | 18:18 |
| macvr | kwwii: BTW why am i not able to see it?! i'm doing something wrong? or you are checking you originals? | 18:18 |
| kwwii | look in the status bar next to the fill and stroke | 18:18 |
| kwwii | macvr: no, I am just looking the stuff in bzr | 18:19 |
| kwwii | I think it is still grouped | 18:19 |
| kwwii | you have to ungroup a total of something like 5 or 6 times | 18:19 |
| macvr | check this out > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-notification-network-ethernet-connected.svg%20-%20Inkscape.png | 18:20 |
| kwwii | hrm, seems like your inkscape is messed up | 18:21 |
| macvr | I know! | 18:21 |
| kwwii | or something else is going wrong | 18:21 |
| kwwii | sorry, can't help with that | 18:21 |
| macvr | anyway its black with 30% opacity... thats enough for me :) | 18:22 |
| macvr | kwwii: oh another thing... | 18:22 |
| macvr | what is the color of the grey? | 18:23 |
| macvr | value | 18:23 |
| macvr | kwwii: ah ... i found the mistake! i had copied the files from the /usr/share/icons to my .icons folder! | 18:27 |
| macvr | somehow the fields dont work only for the copied ones... | 18:27 |
| macvr | the ones in /usr/share allow me to view the stroke/fill | 18:28 |
| dashua | Just uploaded Reprise to Ubuntu-Art.org with Breathe. I will do a wiki this week. | 19:04 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php?content=98045&vote=good&tan=72161736 | 19:04 |
| * dashua work | 19:06 | |
| dashua | C ya | 19:06 |
| macvr | anyone ? http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot.png , which color do you like? the design is not the one i'm going to use, its just the colors I'm finding it hard to choose between 4 & 7 , | 22:01 |
| macvr | oh now i like 8 too! | 22:03 |
| kwwii | so now everyone should join #kubuntu-devel and ask intersting questions | 23:00 |
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