[08:02] macvr: hey [08:02] macvr: sebastian meant the nm-icons on the panel ;) [08:02] SiDi: i know , but then we would have to use the human notify-osd icons [08:03] hm [08:04] SiDi: to prevent that , I'm doing the wireless notify-osd icons for breathe. [08:04] shall i do it in color? or is it against some notify-osd rules?! [08:08] color forbidden [08:08] black and white except for emergency icons [08:10] ah... ok... [08:11] SiDi: also do the icons have to be only in 48px? anything bigger doesnt seem to get rendered well [08:11] they have to be svg only [08:11] :D [08:11] SiDi: i have tried using 128 px svg , but output aint that clear :( [08:12] oh [08:12] display the grid in inkscape [08:12] make sure your paths are on the grid, not between lines of the grid [08:12] the grid aint the problem... i'v tested not with my nm icons but with various other icons [08:13] have to ask macslow about this [08:14] * macvr will be back [08:33] SiDi: testing... [08:33] Testing what , :P [10:26] andreasn: i thought you hadnt seen my request to post your comment on that bug , hence i quoted you from here... :) [10:26] I did, but then I watched a movie and went offline [10:27] so I felt a bit embarrassed that I didn't read your comment first :) [10:27] i didnt know since you hadnt responded ... [10:28] andreasn: actually there is more spam on lp... the link and your comment was useful === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi [15:21] Hi, does anyone know how to scale down the document in inkscape... I'm just not able to find it! i can see scale of the image option ...but how do i scale the whole document? [15:27] macvr: you want to make the page smaller? [15:27] yup [15:27] along with the image [15:27] file->document properties [15:28] hrm, don't know how to do it with scaling the contents as well [15:28] inkscape used to that by default [15:29] it is just that i have an 128 px svg , i want to convert it to 48px... [15:30] well, you can scale it down but in the end it will be better to redraw it it fits to the pixel raster [15:30] kwwii: do you know info about the notify-osd icons? [15:30] macvr: yeah, I am making a new package today [15:30] i'm actually doing it for testing purpose, hence didnt want to spned time on redoing stuff [15:31] as we speak, so to speak [15:31] kwwii: the human notify-osd icons are of 48px size in the scalable folder , why? [15:32] also i notice the 128 px dont display well if used in the scalable [15:32] macvr: because that is the size they are being shown at so they were optimized for that size [15:33] kwwii: its just i have to explain to Cory when i do them! he insists on getting everything in all the sizes... [15:33] kwwii: so doing the icons in 48px is enough? Only for notify-osd [15:33] in the end, you will have to make more than one svg for each icon as the different sizes do need different svg sources [15:34] but for the notify-osd stuff we only need them at 48x48 [15:34] and anyway, they would be really easy to create at larger sizes if needed [15:34] because teh style is so simple there is little extra you can add to a larger size [15:35] its just that they arent as crisp as the 128px original icons [15:35] displayed^ [15:35] i find when the icons are done in 48px , they get displayed perfectly [15:35] kwwii: I'm gonna quote you on this... ;p [15:36] Else Cory wont believe me :( [15:36] have him talk to me if he doesn't believe you [15:37] \o/ [15:37] in the end, he might say he wants them all at a larger size anyway [15:38] kwwii: larger size is not a prob for me, i already have it done, its just Not a sharp image... [15:38] kwwii: also is it against the specs to use color for the icons other than warnings? [15:40] no, that rule is only for the notify-osd icons and doesn't apply to the breathe stuff anyway (unless breathe decides to keep the same style for those icons) [15:43] ok... :) [15:59] kwwii: notify-osd doesnt use 48x48 png [15:59] it uses svg afaik :-| [16:00] yes, you are right [16:01] but I never said it uses png, did I? [16:01] kwwii: SiDi is blind somethimes ;p [16:01] times^ [16:03] [16:36] kwwii: so doing the icons in 48px is enough? Only for notify-osd [16:03] [16:37] but for the notify-osd stuff we only need them at 48x48 [16:03] SiDi: the svg's themselves are at 48x48 :p [16:03] * SiDi goes bed. [16:03] Oh, its 5PM, cant go bed [16:04] * SiDi hits head on the wall then [16:04] :p [16:05] lol [16:07] kwwii: managed to put my icons in Human yet, btw ? :p [16:07] Cause i'll have to patch the horrible gnome-settings-daemon once its done (note that i have no idea how to make a debian patch) [16:08] SiDi: yeah, i have a new human icon package I am working on today [16:09] it should be ready within a few hours [16:11] oh great [16:36] btw, everyone can join #kubuntu-devel at 0:00 cet to join in my chat about making an oxygen icon [16:38] * SiDi will be at cinema. But anyway /me doesnt make icons [16:54] macvr: why the hell did you assign half of launchpad to notify-osd ? :p [16:55] SiDi: was feeling bored ;p [16:55] btw it was just 2 bugs! [16:56] :p [16:57] SiDi: even macslow didnt realize it when he first commented! [16:58] SiDi: only today he came to his senses ;p [16:59] xD [17:25] kwwii: where can i find the notify-osd icons source? [18:08] macvr: they are in the scalable dir of the icon theme [18:10] kwwii: i know that , but all the fields are unset! so i thought the source could give me a better picture of how it was done [18:10] fields? [18:10] kwwii: BTW how do you guys do that? unset? even though colors are present [18:10] ahhh, that is the build system reducing the size [18:10] kwwii: the fill/ stroke [18:11] so anything black doesn't need to be set [18:11] ie it defaults to black [18:11] kwwii: but the grey , transparency . [18:11] you have to ungroup things, you know [18:11] everything is in the svg, I promise [18:12] i did that [18:12] which one are you working on? [18:12] i was doing wireless icons... but i checked the ethernet notify icon [18:14] if you select an object look in the status bar whether it is a group or not [18:14] it might be grouped several times [18:14] I'm not able to identify the transparency level of the border [18:14] wait , let me try again [18:15] it is 30% transparent and black [18:15] kwwii: nope... :( , could check the notification-network-ethernet-connected.svg , I just want to know the border transparency level [18:15] ooops [18:15] ok [18:16] the opacity of the entire object is set to 30% [18:17] you are saying for the border , just to confirm? [18:17] yes, the very outer border [18:17] it does not have a stroke to it [18:18] it is a path with a hole in the middle [18:18] and although the fill says unset, that means black in svg terms [18:18] that i noticed [18:18] and the entire object is set to be 30% opaque [18:18] i just couldnt identify the transparency level! [18:18] kwwii: BTW why am i not able to see it?! i'm doing something wrong? or you are checking you originals? [18:18] look in the status bar next to the fill and stroke [18:19] macvr: no, I am just looking the stuff in bzr [18:19] I think it is still grouped [18:19] you have to ungroup a total of something like 5 or 6 times [18:20] check this out > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-notification-network-ethernet-connected.svg%20-%20Inkscape.png [18:21] hrm, seems like your inkscape is messed up [18:21] I know! [18:21] or something else is going wrong [18:21] sorry, can't help with that [18:22] anyway its black with 30% opacity... thats enough for me :) [18:22] kwwii: oh another thing... [18:23] what is the color of the grey? [18:23] value [18:27] kwwii: ah ... i found the mistake! i had copied the files from the /usr/share/icons to my .icons folder! [18:27] somehow the fields dont work only for the copied ones... [18:28] the ones in /usr/share allow me to view the stroke/fill [19:04] Just uploaded Reprise to Ubuntu-Art.org with Breathe. I will do a wiki this week. [19:04] http://www.ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php?content=98045&vote=good&tan=72161736 [19:06] * dashua work [19:06] C ya [22:01] anyone ? http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot.png , which color do you like? the design is not the one i'm going to use, its just the colors I'm finding it hard to choose between 4 & 7 , [22:03] oh now i like 8 too! [23:00] so now everyone should join #kubuntu-devel and ask intersting questions