[08:02] <SiDi> macvr: hey
[08:02] <SiDi> macvr: sebastian meant the nm-icons on the panel ;)
[08:02] <macvr> SiDi: i know , but then we would have to use the human notify-osd icons
[08:03] <SiDi> hm
[08:04] <macvr> SiDi: to prevent that , I'm doing the wireless notify-osd icons for breathe.
[08:04] <macvr> shall i do it in color? or is it against some notify-osd rules?!
[08:08] <SiDi> color forbidden
[08:08] <SiDi> black and white except for emergency icons
[08:10] <macvr> ah... ok...
[08:11] <macvr> SiDi: also do the icons have to be only in 48px? anything bigger doesnt seem to get rendered well
[08:11] <SiDi> they have to be svg only
[08:11] <SiDi> :D
[08:11] <macvr> SiDi: i have tried using 128 px svg , but output aint that clear :(
[08:12] <SiDi> oh
[08:12] <SiDi> display the grid in inkscape
[08:12] <SiDi> make sure your paths are on the grid, not between lines of the grid
[08:12] <macvr> the grid aint the problem... i'v tested not with my nm icons but with various other icons
[08:13] <macvr> have to ask macslow about this
[08:14]  * macvr will be back
[08:33] <macvr> SiDi: testing...
[08:33] <SiDi> Testing what , :P
[10:26] <macvr> andreasn: i thought you hadnt seen my request to post your comment on that bug , hence i quoted you from here... :)
[10:26] <andreasn> I did, but then I watched a movie and went offline
[10:27] <andreasn> so I felt a bit embarrassed that I didn't read your comment first :)
[10:27] <macvr> i didnt know since you hadnt responded ...
[10:28] <macvr> andreasn: actually there is more spam on lp... the link and your comment was useful
[15:21] <macvr> Hi, does anyone know how to scale down the document in inkscape... I'm just not able to find it! i can see scale of the image option ...but how do i scale the whole document?
[15:27] <kwwii> macvr: you want to make the page smaller?
[15:27] <macvr> yup
[15:27] <macvr> along with the image
[15:27] <kwwii> file->document properties
[15:28] <kwwii> hrm, don't know how to do it with scaling the contents as well
[15:28] <kwwii> inkscape used to that by default
[15:29] <macvr> it is just that i have an 128 px svg , i want to convert it to 48px...
[15:30] <kwwii> well, you can scale it down but in the end it will be better to redraw it it fits to the pixel raster
[15:30] <macvr> kwwii: do you know info about the notify-osd icons?
[15:30] <kwwii> macvr: yeah, I am making a new package today
[15:30] <macvr> i'm actually doing it for testing purpose, hence didnt want to spned time on redoing stuff
[15:31] <kwwii> as we speak, so to speak
[15:31] <macvr> kwwii: the human notify-osd icons are of 48px size in the scalable folder , why?
[15:32] <macvr> also i notice the 128 px dont display well if used in the scalable
[15:32] <kwwii> macvr: because that is the size they are being shown at so they were optimized for that size
[15:33] <macvr> kwwii: its just i have to explain to Cory  when i do them! he insists on getting everything in all the sizes...
[15:33] <macvr> kwwii: so doing the icons in 48px is enough? Only for notify-osd
[15:33] <kwwii> in the end, you will have to make more than one svg for each icon as the different sizes do need different svg sources
[15:34] <kwwii> but for the notify-osd stuff we only need them at 48x48
[15:34] <kwwii> and anyway, they would be really easy to create at larger sizes if needed
[15:34] <kwwii> because teh style is so simple there is little extra you can add to a larger size
[15:35] <macvr> its just that they arent as crisp as the 128px original icons
[15:35] <macvr> displayed^
[15:35] <macvr> i find when the icons are done in 48px , they get displayed perfectly
[15:35] <macvr> kwwii: I'm gonna quote you on this... ;p
[15:36] <macvr> Else Cory wont believe me :(
[15:36] <kwwii> have him talk to me if he doesn't believe you
[15:37] <macvr> \o/
[15:37] <kwwii> in the end, he might say he wants them all at a larger size anyway
[15:38] <macvr> kwwii: larger size is not a prob for me, i already have it done, its just Not a sharp image...
[15:38] <macvr> kwwii: also is it against the specs to use color for the icons other than warnings?
[15:40] <kwwii> no, that rule is only for the notify-osd icons and doesn't apply to the breathe stuff anyway (unless breathe decides to keep the same style for those icons)
[15:43] <macvr> ok...  :)
[15:59] <SiDi> kwwii: notify-osd doesnt use 48x48 png
[15:59] <SiDi> it uses svg afaik :-|
[16:00] <kwwii> yes, you are right
[16:01] <kwwii> but I never said it uses png, did I?
[16:01] <macvr> kwwii: SiDi is blind somethimes ;p
[16:01] <macvr> times^
[16:03] <SiDi> [16:36] <macvr> kwwii: so doing the icons in 48px is enough? Only for notify-osd
[16:03] <SiDi> [16:37] <kwwii> but for the notify-osd stuff we only need them at 48x48
[16:03] <kwwii> SiDi: the svg's themselves are at 48x48 :p
[16:03]  * SiDi goes bed.
[16:03] <SiDi> Oh, its 5PM, cant go bed
[16:04]  * SiDi hits head on the wall then
[16:04] <kwwii> :p
[16:05] <knome> lol
[16:07] <SiDi> kwwii: managed to put my icons in Human yet, btw ? :p
[16:07] <SiDi> Cause i'll have to patch the horrible gnome-settings-daemon once its done (note that i have no idea how to make a debian patch)
[16:08] <kwwii> SiDi: yeah, i have a new human icon package I am working on today
[16:09] <kwwii> it should be ready within a few hours
[16:11] <SiDi> oh great
[16:36] <kwwii> btw, everyone can join #kubuntu-devel at 0:00 cet to join in my chat about making an oxygen icon
[16:38]  * SiDi will be at cinema. But anyway /me doesnt make icons
[16:54] <SiDi> macvr: why the hell did you assign half of launchpad to notify-osd ? :p
[16:55] <macvr> SiDi: was feeling bored ;p
[16:55] <macvr> btw it was just 2 bugs!
[16:56] <SiDi> :p
[16:57] <macvr> SiDi: even macslow didnt realize it when he first commented!
[16:58] <macvr> SiDi: only today he came to his senses ;p
[16:59] <SiDi> xD
[17:25] <macvr> kwwii: where can i find the notify-osd icons source?
[18:08] <kwwii> macvr: they are in the scalable dir of the icon theme
[18:10] <macvr> kwwii: i know that , but all the fields are unset! so i thought the source could give me a better picture of how it was done
[18:10] <kwwii> fields?
[18:10] <macvr> kwwii: BTW how do you guys do that? unset? even though colors are present
[18:10] <kwwii> ahhh, that is the build system reducing the size
[18:10] <macvr> kwwii: the fill/ stroke
[18:11] <kwwii> so anything black doesn't need to be set
[18:11] <kwwii> ie it defaults to black
[18:11] <macvr> kwwii: but the grey , transparency .
[18:11] <kwwii> you have to ungroup things, you know
[18:11] <kwwii> everything is in the svg, I promise
[18:12] <macvr>  i did that
[18:12] <kwwii> which one are you working on?
[18:12] <macvr> i was doing wireless icons... but i checked the ethernet notify icon
[18:14] <kwwii> if you select an object look in the status bar whether it is a group or not
[18:14] <kwwii> it might be grouped several times
[18:14] <macvr> I'm not able to identify the transparency level of the border
[18:14] <macvr> wait , let me try again
[18:15] <kwwii> it is 30% transparent and black
[18:15] <macvr> kwwii: nope... :(  , could check the notification-network-ethernet-connected.svg , I just want to know the border transparency level
[18:15] <macvr> ooops
[18:15] <macvr> ok
[18:16] <kwwii> the opacity of the entire object is set to 30%
[18:17] <macvr> you are saying for the border , just to confirm?
[18:17] <kwwii> yes, the very outer border
[18:17] <kwwii> it does not have a stroke to it
[18:18] <kwwii> it is a path with a hole in the middle
[18:18] <kwwii> and although the fill says unset, that means black in svg terms
[18:18] <macvr> that i noticed
[18:18] <kwwii> and the entire object is set to be 30% opaque
[18:18] <macvr> i just couldnt identify the transparency level!
[18:18] <macvr> kwwii: BTW why am i not able to see it?! i'm doing something wrong? or you are checking you originals?
[18:18] <kwwii> look in the status bar next to the fill and stroke
[18:19] <kwwii> macvr: no, I am just looking the stuff in bzr
[18:19] <kwwii> I think it is still grouped
[18:19] <kwwii> you have to ungroup a total of something like 5 or 6 times
[18:20] <macvr> check this out > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-notification-network-ethernet-connected.svg%20-%20Inkscape.png
[18:21] <kwwii> hrm, seems like your inkscape is messed up
[18:21] <macvr> I know!
[18:21] <kwwii> or something else is going wrong
[18:21] <kwwii> sorry, can't help with that
[18:22] <macvr> anyway its black with 30% opacity... thats enough for me :)
[18:22] <macvr> kwwii: oh another thing...
[18:23] <macvr> what is the color of the grey?
[18:23] <macvr> value
[18:27] <macvr> kwwii: ah ... i found the mistake! i had copied the files from the /usr/share/icons to my .icons folder!
[18:27] <macvr> somehow the fields dont work only for the copied ones...
[18:28] <macvr> the ones in /usr/share allow me to view the stroke/fill
[19:04] <dashua> Just uploaded Reprise to Ubuntu-Art.org with Breathe.  I will do a wiki this week.
[19:04] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php?content=98045&vote=good&tan=72161736
[19:06]  * dashua work
[19:06] <dashua> C ya
[22:01] <macvr> anyone ? http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot.png , which color do you like? the design is not the one i'm going to use, its just the colors I'm finding it hard to choose between  4 & 7 ,
[22:03] <macvr> oh now i like 8 too!
[23:00] <kwwii> so now everyone should join #kubuntu-devel and ask intersting questions