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bcurtiswx | ampelbein, 1 hour!! <gets excited> :P | 01:28 |
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bcurtiswx | Ampelbein: do you have a minute I can bug you? | 02:44 |
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therussianjig | if I try to boot my laptop while not connected to a power source, I must hold the spacebar down, or the boot will hang, any ideas how to fix this? | 03:43 |
micahg | therussianjig: try #ubuntu for support | 03:48 |
micahg | please | 03:48 |
micahg | this is the bug triage channel | 03:48 |
micahg | or #ubuntu+1 if you're running karmic | 03:48 |
therussianjig | alright sory | 03:49 |
micahg | ping kees | 04:59 |
micahg | ping hggdh | 05:11 |
dholbach | good morning | 06:32 |
thekorn | good morning bugsquad | 07:32 |
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tommy_0_o | hi all | 08:59 |
tommy_0_o | i have some questions | 08:59 |
leoquant | 0_o ok | 09:03 |
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Syka | Hey guys, I'm having an issue with gnome-panel. It will stop responding every so often, and then after a few minutes it works again and all the clicks are registered at once. If anyone knows a fix that'd be great. I'm running nVidia 180.44, 9800GT, dual monitors, Jaunty Desktop, and standard everything else. Installed it via Add/Remove. | 13:04 |
Syka | Any ideas? | 13:04 |
bullgard4 | What is meant by "official tags" in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/ekiga? | 13:07 |
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xteejx | Hey guys, I'm triaging bug 124387, cant think of what else I need to ask for, theres only debugging procedures for dist upgrades on the wiki, any ideas? | 13:23 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 124387 in update-manager "[jaunty] update manager lock file not always removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124387 | 13:23 |
tom2 | hi | 13:23 |
tom2 | i have to fix some bugs for university | 13:24 |
tom2 | i would like to know how i can find some to fix | 13:24 |
mvo | xteejx: the file itself in the report is probably not a problem, its more likely that the background apt cron job is triggered | 13:25 |
xteejx | tom2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved | 13:25 |
mvo | xteejx: the file itself is not used, there is a fcntl() call used for the actual locking | 13:25 |
xteejx | mvo, thats kinda beyond my knowledge - fro a triaging view is there anything else that i can put to help? | 13:27 |
tom2 | mvo: thx do you maybe have a list I can choose bugs from? | 13:28 |
xteejx | i gave you the link | 13:28 |
xteejx | just go to bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu and look, theres plenty to choose from :) | 13:29 |
mvo | xteejx: from the triage POV its good I think | 13:29 |
xteejx | mvo, great, ill confirm it and set it medium :) | 13:29 |
xteejx | vo, ps thank you | 13:29 |
tom2 | xteejx thx found what im looking for | 13:30 |
xteejx | tom2, no probs | 13:30 |
tom2 | ok another question | 13:31 |
tom2 | the importance does that say the difficulty or just the need to be fixed? | 13:32 |
xteejx | tom2 The importance of the bug signifies the priority that it should be given by people fixing bugs. | 13:33 |
xteejx | hence the importance | 13:33 |
tom2 | ok thx | 13:34 |
tom2 | im looking for some java related bug | 13:34 |
tom2 | do you have any suggestions | 13:35 |
tom2 | ? | 13:35 |
xteejx | any preference, openjdk or sun? | 13:35 |
xteejx | tom2 ^^ | 13:36 |
tom2 | sun | 13:36 |
xteejx | you can do a package search on launchpad, hang on ill try and link you | 13:37 |
tom2 | thx | 13:38 |
xteejx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6 | 13:38 |
xteejx | 229 open bugs | 13:39 |
tom2 | nice | 13:39 |
tom2 | thx again | 13:39 |
xteejx | np | 13:40 |
xteejx | guys quick question, is ntp available in jaunty? cant see any option anywhere | 14:30 |
hggdh | xteejx, yes, ntp and ntpdate are available on Jaunty | 14:30 |
BUGabundo | xteejx: yes | 14:31 |
xteejx | hey hggdh :) - how do i set it up...it used to be a standard option in gnoe around hardy | 14:31 |
xteejx | *gnome | 14:31 |
BUGabundo | hggdh: [[]] | 14:31 |
BUGabundo | xteejx: humm good question. it used to be on the Clock | 14:31 |
xteejx | trying to confirm bug 157215 | 14:31 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 157215 in gnome-system-tools "Synchronizing with a time server does not work when time difference is greater than several hours" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157215 | 14:31 |
xteejx | thats what i thought under Time Settings | 14:31 |
xteejx | dont think its a bug though, the same happens in *cough* windows | 14:33 |
hggdh | well, there is an easy way to check :-) | 14:34 |
xteejx | hggdh ? | 14:34 |
hggdh | (1) stop ntp; (2) reset the time to something a few hours behind; reboot; check time | 14:35 |
hggdh | ntp should be restarted when you acquire a connection | 14:35 |
hggdh | also, check the NTP time servers in your configuration | 14:35 |
hggdh | /etc/ntp.conf | 14:36 |
BUGabundo | xteejx: that's a Feature! not a bug | 14:37 |
BUGabundo | you need to force ntp to update date if diff is bigger then X hours | 14:37 |
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xteejx | so hggdh, ntp is installed and activated by default then?? | 14:38 |
hggdh | yes, it is | 14:39 |
hggdh | also keep in mind that there is ntp, and ntpdate | 14:39 |
BUGabundo | tenhu q ir! ate logo people | 14:39 |
xteejx | ahh ok | 14:39 |
hggdh | ntp is a daemon, and ntpdate is a one-run thing | 14:40 |
hggdh | better saying: ntp runs continuously | 14:40 |
xteejx | so as you said, stop ntp, set time back couple of hours, restart it | 14:40 |
hggdh | yes | 14:41 |
xteejx | cool thanks hggdh for again more wisdom :D | 14:41 |
hggdh | I do not remember the details, long time I do not touch ntp, but -- as long as the time difference is, er, small, NTP will progressively adjust it | 14:42 |
hggdh | if the time difference is, er, big, then NTP will adjust in one single setting | 14:43 |
hggdh | what I do not remember is the threshold | 14:43 |
xteejx | so the guy is right then, and this is still a "problem" - should be wishlist? | 14:45 |
hggdh | xteejx, there is a parameter to ntpd that might bring some light: " -g Normally, ntpd exits with a message to the system log if the offset exceeds the panic threshold, which is 1000 s by default. This option allows the time to be set to any value without restriction; however, this can | 14:45 |
hggdh | happen only once. If the threshold is exceeded after that, ntpd will exit with a message to the system log. This option can be used with the -q and -x options. | 14:45 |
hggdh | " | 14:45 |
xteejx | ahhhhhhhhhh | 14:46 |
hggdh | if this limit is exceeded, no, it is not a problem. It is The Way It Is (TM) | 14:46 |
xteejx | just set my system time back 5 hours, and then run ntpdate and it updated fine | 14:48 |
hggdh | there are two reasons (1) if, while running, the system clock is losing so many tick to get seriously offset, then this is a hardware issue; (2) if, while powered down, the system clock gets lost, then this is a battery issue | 14:48 |
hggdh | xteejx, you are not running tnpd? | 14:49 |
xteejx | i dunno lol | 14:49 |
hggdh | if ntpd is running, ntpdate will not work | 14:49 |
xteejx | ntpdate did work....its a fresh jaunty install | 14:49 |
xteejx | ^pretty much anyway | 14:49 |
hggdh | :-) | 14:49 |
hggdh | run a dpkg -l ntp\* | grep ^ii | 14:50 |
hggdh | you should see ntp, ntp-doc, and ntpdate | 14:50 |
hggdh | (I hope) | 14:51 |
Ampelbein | hggdh: hi there. https://edge.launchpad.net/~amoog/+archive/empathy-daily now has -idle in it. | 14:51 |
xteejx | nope hggdh, just ntpdate | 14:51 |
hggdh | Ampelbein, thank you, very much | 14:51 |
hggdh | ah | 14:51 |
hggdh | interesting. I *did* expect ntp to be installed | 14:52 |
xteejx | obv not in jaunty as default hmm.... | 14:52 |
xteejx | !info ntp jaunty | 14:52 |
ubot4 | xteejx: ntp (source: ntp): Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-7ubuntu5.1 (jaunty), package size 476 kB, installed size 1192 kB | 14:52 |
xteejx | oops | 14:53 |
hggdh | there you go. I have it installed in all my machines, but I used to run my own time server | 14:53 |
hggdh | !info ntpdate jaunty | 14:53 |
ubot4 | hggdh: ntpdate (source: ntp): client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-7ubuntu5.1 (jaunty), package size 64 kB, installed size 228 kB | 14:53 |
hggdh | dat iz weird | 14:54 |
xteejx | lol | 14:54 |
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lesshaste | hi.. I get lots of errors like [ 196.328549] hda: status error: error=0x00 { } | 16:15 |
lesshaste | [ 196.328552] ide: failed opcode was: unknown | 16:15 |
lesshaste | [ 196.328556] hda: drive not ready for command | 16:15 |
lesshaste | in dmesg | 16:15 |
lesshaste | I can stop them by doing sudo hdparm -w /dev/hda | 16:15 |
lesshaste | but now I can't access an audio cs in the dvd drive | 16:15 |
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