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[09:50] <asac> hi
[09:57] <micahg> hi asac
[09:57] <micahg> any idea on bug 383484?
[10:09] <paran> are there plans to provide firefox-3.5 in -backports after it is released?
[10:17] <asac> hi micahg
[10:17] <asac> paran: we will update firefox in jaunty if thats what you ask
[10:32] <paran> asac: oh, so it will even be in -updates? I had guessed that would still be firefox-3.0 only
[10:35] <asac> paran: for jaunty it will get in -security/-updates
[10:35] <asac> for everything before we dont provide builds (except dailies for now)
[10:35] <asac> fta: did this plugin manager error go away?
[10:35] <paran> asac: that sounds great
[10:38] <paran> asac: some friends who asked about 3.5 on jauny, now I can just tell them to wait :)
[10:39] <asac> yes. 3.5 will be out soonish. we will then update it in archive
[10:39] <paran> 3.5 from mozilla-daily ppa works great for me, but nothing I recommend peolpe who like things stable
[10:41] <asac> paran: ack ... though after 3.5 gets out the branch is supposed to be in stable maintenance mode - meaning that even dailies shouldnt be that unstable (though there might be breakage, yeAH)
[10:44] <paran> yeah, but still, much less work for me to just have them wait for -security/-updates.
[10:44] <paran> won't have to explain what a PPA is, for example :)
[10:47] <fta> asac, no, tried many things, still broken, 3.6 unusable for me now
[10:50] <asac> fta: did this start with yesterdays daily?
[10:50] <asac> 1.9.2~a1~hg20090625r29569+
[10:50] <asac> thats what i hvae
[10:50] <asac> let me upgrade
[10:50] <fta> not sure. it started after a reboot
[10:50] <asac> hmm
[10:51] <asac> let me upgrade ... its just two handful of packages
[10:51] <fta> i have hg20090627r29622
[10:51] <asac> fta: just trunk broken? oh ... we dont have daily builds atm for 3.5
[10:52] <fta> correct
[10:52] <asac> ok ... guess 3 minutes and i will know ;)
[10:52] <fta> i put 3.5 on hold because ~rc > ~hg. will be fixed with 3.5.0
[10:55] <asac> The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'. (Details: serial 539 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[10:56] <asac> thats what i get
[10:56] <asac> but it works if i try multiple time
[10:56] <asac> (i got that error for quite some time yet)
[10:56] <asac> so nothing new for me
[10:56] <asac> fta: ^^
[10:56] <fta> hm
[10:57] <asac> fta: 1.9.2~a1~hg20090628r29801+
[10:57] <asac> so maybe it got fixed upstream again
[10:58] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/206119/
[11:07] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ firefox-3.6
[11:07] <fta> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the plugin manager
[11:07] <fta> System error?:: Success
[11:07] <fta> with the last update
[11:07] <fta> yesterday, it was: <fta> System error?:: No such file or directory
[11:26] <fta> asac, ^^ i had to remove sun-java6-* and now it's fine
[11:30] <asac> hmm
[11:30] <asac> ok i think thats expected. afaik trunk dropped java support for plugin
[11:30] <asac> though not sure why i didnt see this
[11:34] <fta> it's now a new install, i had it for months/years
[13:21] <fta2> asac, how can i debug nspw? the plugin is loaded, but it fails to render the page
[13:26] <asac> fta2: reading code. adding debug statements, etc?
[13:27] <andrew_sayers> asac: speaking of nspluginwrapper, can we talk flash and screensavers?
[13:27] <fta2> it works fine in 32bit
[13:28] <andrew_sayers> Specifically, merge 7797 seems to think I should be reviewing it.
[13:28] <andrew_sayers> (https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-bugs-launchpad-net/nspluginwrapper/flashsaver/+merge/7797)
[16:33] <stefanlsd> jcastro: you said you had some insight re gears...
[18:07] <jcastro> stefanlsd: yeah I was trying to find someone in google to help with the licensing of those files, is that still a problem?
[18:13] <asac> i wouldd think that its still an issue
[18:58] <stefanlsd> jcastro: yeah. it is. i've logged an upstream bug and attached diffs of the change adding the license. I've posted to the user group. I mailed a contact i found in the one file from google who said he's not really involved anymore. I saw a google dev post this evening on the group re firefox 3.5, so i contacted him...
[18:58] <stefanlsd> bleh, just read my mail, he just replied and said done, thanks for heads up!
[18:58] <stefanlsd> awesome :)
[18:58] <jcastro> hah sweet
[18:58] <jcastro> yeah the guy I got sent to was a guy that used to work there but doesn't anymore
[18:59] <jcastro> so it might be the same guy
[18:59] <jcastro> well, good to see you got it sorted!
[19:00] <stefanlsd> jcastro: hehe. yay! guy that helped me was called Aaron Boodman. Guy before that tried but didnt work there before was Scott Hess
[19:03] <stefanlsd> cool. that should be the last blocker. I have some guys who will revu advocate.  I dont see it in svn yet... as soon as its there, i'll get that done
[19:03] <stefanlsd> refreshed, actually I do see it. great :)
[19:04] <jcastro> sweet
[19:04] <jcastro> stefanlsd: when it's in I was trying to convinced asac to make the prism stuff depend on it
[19:05] <jcastro> but this was over beers or something so I don't know if he's keen on that
[19:05] <jcastro> stefanlsd: imo we should make the gmail and calendar prism packages depend on gears
[19:05] <asac> so licensing is now sorted?
[19:07] <stefanlsd> jcastro: mm. i agree for a complete user experience, but probably more correct as as a recommends or suggests... as it strictly doesnt really depend?
[19:07] <jcastro> stefanlsd: sure, yeah
[19:07] <stefanlsd> asac: yeah. i think we are good... gonna fix the license file in revu quick and upload.
[19:07] <jcastro> stefanlsd: the user needs to explicitly turn it on the web app anyway, recommends or suggests isn't that much more of a stretch
[19:08] <jcastro> stefanlsd: you wouldn't happen to know how to make the prism icons suck less would you?
[19:09] <stefanlsd> jcastro: hehe. no. sorry. to be honest, i haven't even installed prism :P  but i imagine its fixable?  upstream bug logged for a new one? ubuntu art team?  :)
[19:10] <jcastro> yeah I was just wondering if you were familiar with that
[19:10] <asac> stefanlsd: just prod me if there is something todo again
[19:11] <stefanlsd> asac: its fixed in the latest svn. im building from an earlier revision. Do i need to fix the get-orig-source to get those 3 files from the latest svn?  (thinking bout it, probably)
[19:12] <asac> stefanlsd: just package a snapshot?
[19:12] <asac> or is that too unstable?
[19:17] <stefanlsd> asac: mm. the get-orig-source gets a revision and then ends up deleting a whole bunch of deps we managed to link against system libs or not need.  get-orig-source rule http://paste.ubuntu.com/206448/
[19:23] <stefanlsd> i can probably svn cat the 3 files we need from the latest svn in the get-orig-source and document it in README.source?
[20:03] <asac> stefanlsd: how do you figure SVN_REVISION?
[20:06] <stefanlsd> asac: oh. i have .SRC_VERSION := $(shell dpkg-parsechangelog | sed -ne 's/^Version: \(.*\)-.*/\1/p')
[20:06] <stefanlsd> SVN_REVISION := $(shell echo $(SRC_VERSION) | awk -F"~" '{ print $$2 }' | awk -F"+" '{ print $$1 }' | sed 's/svn//' )
[20:07] <stefanlsd> i've modified the get-orig-source to do a svn cat -r rev url > of the file we want and that works ok. i've also documented that in README.source.  not sure if u have a better suggestion?
[20:08] <asac> no thats ok
[20:08] <asac> stefanlsd: can i say SVN_REVISION=tip
[20:08] <asac> or something
[20:08] <asac> and then get the latest snapshot?
[20:11] <jcastro> stefanlsd: holler at me when this is all in the archive, I would like to blog about your work
[20:15] <stefanlsd> asac: you mean the latest revision? not currently... i can make a new target for that if you would like... i guess if you replaced changed SVN_REVISION to the latest though, it would work. eg. SVN_REVISION=3366.  btw asac, i have a branch here - https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stefanlsd/+junk/gears
[20:18] <stefanlsd> jcastro: cool. that would be great! just so you know, it was assisted lots by Rail Aliev. so i consider it a kinda joint accomplishment.
[20:18] <fta> jcastro, is there a channel for gwibber?
[20:19] <fta> jcastro, would be nice to have a sync for the translation files.. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+question/75068  & https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber
[20:20] <jcastro> fta: there is #gwibber on irc.arstechnica.com, but you are better off just mailing or IMing segphault
[20:20] <jcastro> fta: ok I have no idea how to do that
[20:21] <jcastro> fta: what's he need to do just commmit them?
[20:21] <fta> jcastro, me neither, but iirc, they already did it several times
[20:22] <jcastro> ok
[20:22] <jcastro> fta: aha, it's milo who does that, I'll ping him
[20:23] <fta> thanks!
[20:37] <stefanlsd> asac: got the new version in revu. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gears. when you get some time and wouldnt mind just checking it out (and advocating!), that would be great :)
[20:43] <asac> stefanlsd: is ffox 3.5 still not supported?
[20:44] <stefanlsd> asac: nope. still not...
[20:44] <stefanlsd> asac: i plan on upgrading it as soon as it is though
[21:10] <micahg> ping asac bug 383484
[21:44] <asac> stefanlsd: something is odd ... i cannot advocate on revu
[21:45] <asac> asked on -motu
[22:18] <micahg> ping asac
[22:25] <fta> asac, http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianMozExtTeam#PolicyforpackagingXULbasedapplications
[22:25] <asac> micahg: hi
[22:25] <micahg> hi
[22:26] <micahg> can you look at a bug for me?
[22:27] <micahg> bug 383484
[22:27] <asac> micahg: can you reproduce?
[22:27] <micahg> no
[22:27] <asac> they say its like: start from scratch, use firefox-3.0 ... setup searchplugins; upgrade to firefox-3.5
[22:27] <micahg> my search is fine
[22:27] <asac> -> only added searchplugins are there
[22:27] <micahg> but this is 3 people now
[22:28] <asac> yes. try to use that way
[22:28] <asac> start from scratch == move .mozilla directory away
[22:28] <asac> then add a few searchplugins
[22:28] <asac> manually
[22:28] <asac> then start using ffox 3.5
[22:28] <asac> ;)
[22:28] <micahg> ok
[22:28] <micahg> so, I should try that
[22:29] <micahg> I'm just wondering why it wouldn't restore with a new profile?
[22:29] <asac> yes. three are seeing it, so we should figure out how to reproduce
[22:29] <micahg> are the sqlite dbs recreated  from scratch?
[22:29] <asac> micahg: seems migration dependent
[22:29] <asac> sqlite dbs are unlikely to be involved in the searchplugins
[22:30] <micahg> oh, the different engines and their histories aren't in there?
[22:30] <asac> no
[22:30] <asac> not sure where the stuff is saved
[22:30] <asac> maybe if you seelect e adifferent default that info is saved in some db
[22:30] <micahg> ok
[22:31] <asac> but here, the searchplugins are not detected anymore
[22:31] <micahg> safe mode couldn't restore the defaults either
[22:31] <micahg> most of the problems I've found upstream with search engines are on windows
[22:33] <asac> micahg: yeah. we need to reproduce it
[22:34] <micahg> ok, I can try tonight with a new user on my box, but I don't have too much time this week
[22:34] <micahg> am I the only one triaging right now?
[22:34] <asac> i asked something
[22:34] <asac> maybe someone cna do that
[22:35]  * micahg needs to find some minions to triage for me :)
[22:36]  * asac clones micahg ;)
[22:38] <micahg> wow, nice job :)
[22:39] <asac> fta: yeah. i think they asked mike for adding a build-system like we have
[22:39] <asac> it worked ;)
[22:40] <fta> i just hope it's compatible
[22:49] <micahg> ah, asac
[22:49] <micahg> I just noticed your post
[22:49] <micahg> thanks