/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/29/#ubuntu-ops.txt

mneptoknalioth: i'm still working on the DCC protocol extension that allows one to send urine samples00:00
=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang
* elky is really not comfortable with the discussion in -ot right now01:10
Seeker`what part of it?01:10
Seeker`seems to have changed into pokemon01:11
elkySeeker`, the way eri has totally sexualised the discussion01:11
elkyi dont think ive seen her do anything in #u* other than practically try sell herself in -ot01:13
Seeker`when will people learn that telling ops to "chillax" or "take a chill pill" is more likely to annoy them than anything else01:16
elkybecause they think belittling us makes them bigger for some obtuse reason01:19
elkysomeone remove paddy before i snap please01:22
elkyi'm going to *love* this.01:23
elkythey wanted a 'it's ok to express your view' change to o4o. sexualised -ot is what they get.01:24
elkywth does ompaul have to do with the CC? :-/01:25
Seeker`I dont know01:25
Seeker`I wonder if everyone that doesn't agree with him will be "biased"01:28
elkyconsidering i'm having dinner with paul on friday while he's over here in aus...01:28
elkyhe probably will be biased :P01:29
Seeker`bedtime for me01:50
elkyshe seems's basing what she's doing on what she's allowed to do in ##c-u01:52
Seeker`:(01:54
bazhangzhxk. asking how to create a botnet Trojan and repeatedly asking staff 'what is trolling' 'Is trolling good?'02:02
Seeker`where?02:02
bazhangearlier in defocus and freenode02:03
elkynow she's trying to petition that discussing kissing and offering to kiss is not a sexualised topic02:03
bazhangbest answer was from G ary : if you want to be removed from the network, then yes02:03
bazhangfor kids these days it's probably not02:04
Tm_Tis02:05
Tm_Tbright monday night/morning to you all02:06
bazhanghi02:06
bazhangdon't know why she's complaining, she hasn't been removed02:08
bazhangSeveas once removed me 7 times in a span of 3 minutes and I never complained 02:09
Tm_Tyou deserved many removes long time ago indeed02:09
bazhanghis were for no reason at all though, just fun02:10
Tm_Tcannot be! (;02:11
elkybazhang, because i asked her to stop sexualising discussions in a technical channel.02:11
bazhangguess if you see IRC through the lens of 'My first amendment rights!!!' it's different02:11
elkyshe tried to qualify that she ought to be able to because she's a girl and it doesnt bother her.02:11
bazhangelky, I saw, but she was never removed or anything. she just needs to learn where to use that language (ie not -ot) if it is bothering others02:12
bazhangthought that was the new o4o: not banned but please stop if it is bothering others, creating problems02:13
elkybazhang, it is.02:13
bazhangand it was bothering others, so seems quite clearcut02:14
Seeker`ah well you see, elky is an op02:14
Seeker`so it cant bother her02:14
bazhangoh the power mad ops02:14
Seeker`she is just abusing her power02:14
EriI have a feeling that what I have to say here will not be well received so I shall skip this step02:14
elkyyou're basing that on what you've read?02:15
bazhangshe was let to discuss, asked to stop, told people to chillax then continued nonetheless02:16
bazhangmisssed the removal, mute etc part02:16
elkybazhang, her current gripe is that in PM i said sexualised discussions in -ot drive female contributors away. she asserted to be a contributor, and i asked what other than offering kissing services in -ot was she contributing.02:17
EriI'm not clear h ow to state this but I do have an issue with one of your Ops02:20
Eri*how02:20
bazhangjust saying it is usually the best way Eri 02:20
EriI have an issue with elky, no elky this does not require your response as you have stated you have no time to further discuss this, my issue lies with a conversation that was on going in #ubuntu-offtopic a non-technical support channel - ie a social channel. A conversation had been going on for quite some time with none of the participants or on lookers openly discussing disdain of the...02:26
Eri...topic, until elky popped in and asked us to stop merely because she, one of many, was uncomfortable. While I understand she has a say in what the channel may discuss, I fear that she used her own personal discomfort to stop a conversation that was not in anyway disrespectful to the actively participating users. And then further more once a point was discussed and moved past I do not...02:26
Eri...appreciate being referred to as a slut. 02:26
FlannelEri: Would it make you feel any better about being asked to stop if I mention that I would have commented on it as well, had I seen it?02:28
Seeker`ok, can I just say that if a random user came to us and said, "I am lurking in -ot and I feel that this discussion is offensive" then an op would most likely ask the discussion to stop02:28
Seeker`just because someone is an op doesn't mean that they aren't offended by what is going on02:29
FlannelEri: Also, that channel's policies are one matter of discussion, but the slut thing worries me.  Would you be willing to elaborate?02:29
EriFlannel: what would you like me to elaborate on? 02:29
FlannelEri: Would you be willing to quote your conversations?02:30
EriFlannel none02:31
FlannelEri: What?02:31
Erisorry02:31
EriI was responding to something else02:31
EriI do not mind02:31
FlannelEri: Please do then02:32
EriIn channel? 02:32
EriOr out of channel?02:32
FlannelIf its a significant amount of text, pastebin and then give the link here02:33
EriI'll give you what I deem pertinent and should you decide you need more I'll paste bin it02:34
EriIs that alright?02:34
FlannelSure02:34
Eri[20:57]<elky>because i am sick to death of being one of only 2% of female contributors because the rest flee02:35
Eri[20:57]<Eri>Hello! What am I?02:35
Eri[20:57]<elky>not a contributor02:35
Eri[20:57]<Eri>As far as you know!02:35
Eri[20:57]<elky>what do you contribute then?02:35
Eri[20:57]<Eri>What do I contribute?02:35
Eri[20:57]<elky>yes.02:35
Eri[20:58]<elky>aside from kissing services in #ubuntu-offtopic.02:35
Eri[20:59]<Eri>When someone asks a question I know the answer to I answer it. I'm relatively new to this particular distribution I'll admit that but that doesn't mean my knowledge is completely is completely void. And I'm sorry Ms. Draper but that comment was below the belt. 02:36
FlannelEri: The penultimate line maps to being called a slut, I presume?02:41
Flannelthat is, the kissing services one02:41
EriIn my mind? Correct02:41
FlannelI'm not really sure if I know what "kissing services" are exactly,02:42
Flannelbut, quickly perusing my backlog of -ot, I'm left with the feeling that the statement isn't exactly inacurate.02:43
EriWhat as to calling me a slut?02:43
Flannelas to you offering "kissing services"02:43
EriIt was done in jest02:44
FlannelFor example: 17:11 < Eri> Grant-A: can I take you out for a test drive >.>02:44
EriAs I explained to elky02:44
FlannelWhich, to me, seems like more than "just kissing"02:44
EriIt wasn't meant to be02:44
FlannelI think with context it wasn't, no.  But it is at least "just kissing"02:44
Flannelcorrect?02:44
FlannelYou were discussing how guys/girls are bad/good kissers02:44
EriCorrect02:45
EriBut it was being done in jest which is my point. 02:45
nalioth#ubuntu-offtopic is not a "general social channel"02:45
FlannelSo, if you just offered to go make out/kiss/whatever with someone, how is saying you're offering to kiss someone offensive?02:45
naliothit is there to discuss non-support topics related to Ubuntu02:45
nalioth"which torrent client is best?"02:46
Erinalioth: forgive me if I aske you to stop I'm trying to understand what Flannel is saying02:46
nalioth"is the EEEpc better than [something else]?"02:46
Eriand trying to answer you is hard while focusing on him02:46
FlannelEri: If you say "I want to ride a motorcycle" and then someone claims you want to ride a motorcycle, how is that miscontruing anything?02:46
naliothi'm not asknig for for answers, Eri 02:46
naliothi'm clarifying the purpose of #ubuntu-offtopic 02:47
Erinalioth: then I ask you to stop so I can fully focus on Flannel 02:47
Flanneler, misconstruing, that is.02:47
EriFlannel: because something that was said in jest does not make a person a slut and lends nothing to a persons character02:47
tritiumGood evening.02:47
bazhangtritium, hi02:48
tritiumHow are you, bazhang?02:48
FlannelEri: First off, lets ditch the slut moniker, no one said slut, the term was you're offering kissing services, which I really don't see as equivalent to a slut.02:48
bazhangtritium, very well :)02:48
EriFlannel: I do02:48
tritiumGlad to hear it.02:48
FlannelEri: Alright, well, regardless, everything she said was factual.02:48
FlannelEri: If you said it in jest, that's fine, but it doesn't come across to everyone as if it were in jest.02:49
bazhangjokes don't always translate on IRC02:49
FlannelEri: It's the same reason we won't let people muck around putting each other down with "your momma" jokes or whatver, because while it may be entertainingfor those involved,02:49
FlannelSome ppeople who aren't involved feel that the channel is extremely hostile.02:49
EriFlannel: I'm sorry but I don't quite understand how you can dismiss my claim and admit hers02:49
FlannelEri: The last few statements had nothing to do with any claim,02:50
Flannelnor do I know what claim she made? Oh, that you were offering kissing services?02:50
naliothEri: you were under the misunderstanding of "why" #ubuntu-offtopic exists02:50
Erinalioth: forgive me but I am not addressing you currently I appreciate your opinion but I respectfully ask you to hold until I finish with Flannel 02:51
FlannelMaybe I'm out of touch with what "slut" means, would someone care to define it for my sake?02:52
EriFlannel: I understand your point...but what I fail to see how she can allude to supposed "prostitution" ie the offering of services and that is seen as acceptable while offering to kiss someone in jest is not02:52
naliothEri: you are wasting Flannel's time.02:53
EriFine then I will go else where where I'm not seen as wasting my time for being offended02:53
FlannelEri: Where did she allude to prostitution?02:53
EriGood day gentlemen all the best 02:53
FlannelShe said you were kissing people02:53
* elky smells a vendetta.02:54
naliothi smell a troll02:54
elkynalioth, well, she was bred by the best from what she's told me02:54
FlannelAll I smell is double standards02:54
elkyher roots being That Other Channel02:54
elkyFlannel, which are convenient in vendettas ;)02:54
elkyanyway, i look forward to this reaching the CC. they wanted to invite this stuff after all.02:55
zhxkhello, gentlemen03:55
zhxki have to come here again pleading for a small request03:56
zhxkhello?03:58
zhxkhi?03:58
zhxkhello?03:59
zhxkhi?03:59
zhxkhello?03:59
bazhangzhxk, hi03:59
zhxkbazhang:gentleman, do me a favor04:00
elkyzhxk, we've been watching you, and we're not impressed.04:00
bazhangzhxk, how may we assist you04:01
zhxkbazhang:gentleman, you know what people go to there for04:01
bazhangzhxk, go to where? I am not understanding you04:02
zhxkbazhang:come to this channel must have to ask for help04:02
bazhangzhxk, did you have some issue to discuss here?04:03
zhxkelky:dude, you are not impressed because the time is so long04:03
zhxkbazhang:yap,gentleman, try to see the ban list, i have been there so long04:04
elkyGary, ping?04:04
bazhangiirc stew was involved here04:04
zhxkbazhang:actually, iknoia know all04:06
zhxkiknoia:hello?04:07
zhxkiknoia:bother to tell me to come here for any long time.04:08
zhxkiknoia:bother to tell me to come here again in any long time.04:09
bazhangzhxk, do you know why you were banned from #ubuntu ?04:09
zhxkbazhang:of course, gentleman04:09
bazhangzhxk, please explain04:10
zhxkbazhang:the reason is bacause become offtopic04:10
bazhangzhxk, and the subsequent ban evasion?04:11
zhxkbazhang:to have the desire to return to topic04:12
bazhangzhxk, you should have come here first to discuss having your ban lifted, instead of ban-evading04:13
zhxkbazhang:newbie to irc04:13
bazhangzhxk, after seeing what you have been doing, am not confident you will behave in #ubuntu04:14
zhxkbazhang:i was a newbie, and amnt know04:15
bazhangzhxk, I mean in the last few days04:15
zhxkbazhang:well, insnt it good to not bother any of you and return to normal?04:17
ubottucabrey called the ops in #ubuntu (Hasbro (sudo rm -rf))04:17
bazhangzhxk, I don't feel confident to remove your ban at this time. If others differ (ie those setting the *bans* )04:17
zhxkbazhang:the banner behaves sleepy04:18
bazhangzhxk, not understanding you. 04:19
zhxkbazhang:well, gentleman, just tell me how can lift from the ban04:19
bazhangzhxk, there was more than one person banning you (initially), and then the ban-evasions04:19
zhxkbazhang:they enjoys in banning me, dunno i have been suffered enough04:23
elkyzhxk, you have to demonstrate good behaviour in the other places you chat first.04:23
zhxkelky:gentleman, how long would be to show the good behviour then?04:27
zhxkhello04:29
bazhangzhxk, no real set time limit.04:31
bazhangzhxk, what is your native language04:33
zhxkcn04:33
zhxkthe official language is chinese04:33
bazhangzhxk, what about getting support and helping others in your loco channel then #ubuntu-cn04:33
zhxkof couse,i have my own native language which dunno it's name04:34
zhxkbazhang:there are so many water in it04:34
zhxk"water"04:35
zhxkdo you know what "water" is?04:35
bazhangflood?04:35
zhxkgood04:35
zhxkbazhang:how can get support in a watering world?04:37
bazhangzhxk, your ban in #ubuntu won't be lifted at this time.04:38
zhxkwell, if there is no resolution here, i may come back to bother any of you nextime, inst it better to figure out the solution and reduce the annoy time here?04:42
zhxkbazhang:gentleman, im think from your place04:45
zhxkdo you think so?04:46
zhxkhello04:46
bazhangzhxk, this is not a chat channel04:47
zhxkbazhang:im thinking at you place04:47
bazhangzhxk, if there are no other issues related to #ubuntu , please don't idle here04:48
zhxkbazhang£ºi'm waiting for the solution for the issue which you know04:50
bazhangzhxk, the ban won't be lifted at this time.04:50
zhxkbazhang:well, its long enough, i have been on the list long long04:51
bazhangzhxk, you are clearly not ready to rejoin the channel #ubuntu 04:52
zhxkthey lift and add, lift and add04:52
zhxkttyl04:55
bazhangasking how to evade bans, build botnets and repeatedly asking 'what is trolling???' are not good confidence builders imo04:57
zhxkwell, do yo imply that situation might change some day later?04:58
elkyif you can demonstrate good behaviour elsewhere, rather than asking how to troll and ban evade, yes.05:03
zhxk¹þ¹þ05:04
zhxkgood05:13
zhxkelky:gentleman, hope your implication be carried into execution05:14
elkythat bit is up to you.05:15
elkywe dont control how you behave. we just control your ability to do it in ubuntu channels05:16
zhxkindirect control05:19
elkyin the mean time, please dont lurk here05:19
zhxkpermit05:21
bazhangzhxk, please exit the channel 05:21
zhxkpermit05:21
bazhangsdeb bears watching05:30
bazhangseems to think discussion of anaconda installer or not is on topic05:30
ubottuIn ubottu, sdeb said: !no debian is debian06:11
ubottuIn ubottu, sdeb said: !no ,!debian is !debian06:12
ubottuIn ubottu, sdeb said: sdeb: ubuntu is  !ubuntu06:13
roxanI'm banned :(06:16
sattamhi , i love ubuntu , and i want cloak 06:30
elky!member06:30
ubottuWant to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember06:30
sattamok , if i don't want to be ? 06:31
elkythen you dont get a cloak.06:31
elkysattam, you have to have become an official member by the process above, and once you've done that, you can ask in -irc. but not until you're an official member.06:32
sattamgreat , i will be member , coz i love ubuntu :)06:32
jussi01!idle | sattam06:45
ubottusattam: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.06:45
roxanHi, I'm banned. 06:52
tsimpsonroxan: why did you ctcp ping #ubuntu?06:59
roxantsimpson: it was an accident07:13
tsimpsonwhat do you mean "an accident"?07:16
tsimpsonroxan: what were you doing, specifically?07:21
roxantsimpson: there was a guy called ubuntu at that time and I tried to ping him to check my connectivity.07:22
roxanalso I didn't know pinging channel would do this07:22
tsimpsonwhy would you randomly ctcp someone?07:23
tsimpsonyou can just ping the server to check your connection07:23
roxantsimpson: I don't know. I am not perfect, I'm human being07:42
elkyroxan, the usual procedure we take here is to have someone read the guidelines07:49
elky!guidelines > roxan07:49
ubotturoxan, please see my private message07:49
elkylet me know when you have finished reading and we can move to the next step07:50
roxanelky: done07:55
Garyelky: morning, you pinged my dear07:58
elkyGary, yes, nzhk or whatever he calls himself was around07:58
elkyroxan, ok, do you promise to never do ping or version or anything silly like that to #ubuntu again?07:59
Garynice, being offtopic I suppose, leaning tower of no foundations or something I guess?07:59
elkyGary, begging to be allowed back in of course08:00
roxanelky: I promise08:00
elkyroxan, excellent08:01
roxanelky: can I login now?08:01
elkyroxan, you can go back to #ubuntu now, yes08:02
roxanelky: oh thankyou08:03
elkyroxan, was there anything else you needed from this channel?08:04
roxanelky: nope. thanks 08:04
Garyelky: I'd not let that user back for a bit, I've seen little ontopic from him08:04
elkyGary, nzhk? yeah, he's a twit08:05
Garymaybe they need a while to figure out what freenode is all about :-D08:05
elkythey've been in the ban list for a while.08:05
elkyiirc they're in there a few times08:06
elkyzhxk, sorry08:07
Garyyou are thinking of nzk :p08:09
elkythat must be where the confusion stems08:10
* elky noms on dahl and pappodums08:16
elkyGary, also, has eri caused issues elsewhere?08:19
Garythat nice doesn't ring any bells08:20
Garyerm, nick08:20
elkyGary, how much scrollback do you have?08:22
elkygo back about 6 hours in this channel08:22
Garyhehe, read it, well... not seen em elsewhere08:24
elkyare you in That Other Channel at all?08:32
Myrttibwhahaha08:44
elkyMyrtti, are you seeing the v2.0beta too?08:45
Myrttielky: I'm laughing at -ot right no08:45
Myrttiw08:45
Garythat other channel - nope08:45
elkysigh.08:52
elkyi didnt even say to shut it down, for crying out loud08:57
elkyand all this without me even saying the s-word. sigh.09:12
ubottutsimpson called the ops in #ubuntu (Superninja spamming/trolling)09:39
Myrttijesus10:04
Seeker`?10:04
Myrttiread the backlog10:08
ikoniamorning10:26
* jussi01 waves to ikonia10:27
elkyMyrtti, you seeing that v2.0beta now?10:36
Myrttielky: mmm10:39
ikoniayo !10:48
Myrttishadeslayer is again tossing random factoids11:58
ikoniaof course11:58
ikoniathat's what he does11:58
bazhangheh11:59
Myrttidoes anyone else remember how to check if 3d acceleration is on?12:00
ikoniaglxinfo or glxgears | grep -i dri 12:01
Myrttishadeslayer X-(12:03
Tm_Thi kids12:28
miikhelp bazhang closed the door so now i cant enter the ubuntu room in mirc12:45
bazhangmiik, you were removed from #ubuntu12:45
bazhangmiik, then asked to remain ontopic, and then continued, with very inappropriate comments and suggestions12:45
miikoh12:46
miikok12:46
bazhang<miik> which OS is better for porno, win xp, win vista, win 7 or ubuntu?12:47
miikyes12:47
miiksomeone should make comparison12:47
miikof important usage12:47
bazhangat which point you were asked to stop12:47
miiksuch as porno, gaming, office12:47
bazhangbut you continued, and were removed12:47
miikthe people deserves to know!12:48
jpdsmiik: Find out by yourself then?12:48
miikidk12:48
miiki want find like a comparision12:48
bazhang<miik> Seifer, then your IP will be leet.hax0r.supercool.dude.net12:48
bazhang<miik> yes but only to i.love.penis.org12:48
jpdsmiik: Then do it youself, kthx.12:48
bazhangmiik, you are now banned from #ubuntu12:48
miikyes12:49
miikyou closed the door12:49
bazhangwith very good reason.12:49
miikkinda12:49
bazhangmiik, Ubuntu channels have a code of conduct12:50
bazhang!coc > miik 12:50
ubottumiik, please see my private message12:50
miikok12:52
miikisnt you a bot?12:52
bazhangmiik, no I am not12:52
elkyubottu is. bazhang is just a cyborg from outer space.12:52
ubottuI'll remember that, elky12:52
jpdselky: ...12:52
elkywtf...12:52
Picihah12:52
Myrttioops.12:52
bazhangyikes12:52
miikit talks12:52
bazhang!bazhang12:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bazhang12:52
elky!language > elky12:52
ubottuelky, please see my private message12:52
elky!is.12:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about is.12:53
jpds!ubottu12:53
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:53
jpdsWeird.12:53
bazhang!ubottu is12:53
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Myrtti!ubottu is.12:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ubottu is.12:53
Myrttiok12:53
Myrttimoving on12:53
Pici!is. bazhang 12:53
ubottuis. bazhang is just a cyborg from outer space.12:53
Myrttiwhee.12:53
miik!is. penis12:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about is. penis12:53
bazhanghehe12:54
miik:DDDDDdd12:54
elkymiik, that was naughty.12:54
bazhangmiik, come back in a week12:54
Tm_Tbazhang: we're done?12:56
bazhangTm_T, making factoids about me?12:56
bazhangor the other?12:56
Tm_Twith miik (:12:56
bazhangTm_T, aye captain12:57
Tm_Tmiik: I think we have done for now, see you in a week, you can leave us now12:57
miikok12:57
miikdude a week is like a very long time12:57
miikin a week i might be ded12:57
miiklike i go out, a car hit me12:57
miikwtf12:57
Garyno need to be silly now miik 12:57
elkythen irc is the least of our worries12:57
Tm_Tmiik: then avoid cars12:57
elkys/our/your/12:58
miiklike why i must be grounded from the room for a week?12:58
miikwhen my mom grounds me, she never grounds me for a full week12:58
Tm_Tmiik: you cannot follow the rules nor behave12:58
elkymiik, because that's our rules.12:58
Tm_Tjussi01: but I wanted him to leave himself ):12:59
bazhang!is. bazhang12:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about is. bazhang12:59
bazhangwhew12:59
elkysorry kiddo, we dont confer with your mother when you talk about your peepee in public12:59
Picielky: :P12:59
Myrttioh god, someone gave ubuntugeeks link on the intel/jaunty problem again14:10
ikoniaI hate that14:11
ikoniaalthough its bad as that problem should be long resolved by now14:11
elkyPici, is it just me or does majnoon come out with that sort of idiocy all the time and then fade off until next time and never gets banned?14:40
Picielky: It does seem like a familiar theme with him.14:41
elkyi think a holiday from there is due then14:41
* mneptok yawns14:59
Myrttimore ice cream!15:01
AmaranthMyrtti: what link is that?15:16
Amaranththe "upgrade to 2.6.30" one?15:16
MyrttiAmaranth: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html15:16
Myrttiooh15:17
ikoniaughhh15:17
elky<majnoon> pain in the ass i can see ,but not troll :) usually quiet in room :)15:17
Myrttihm, has it been changed?15:17
elkyMyrtti, no, it still says to download debian debs15:18
elky<elky> discuss this in #ubuntu-ops please15:18
elky<majnoon> just saying not a troll ,banning was correct though 15:18
elkywho the hell is this loon?15:18
elkyPici, ikonia ^15:19
ikoniaoops15:19
Amaranthso yeah, performance in jaunty is never going to be fixed precisely because it needs 2.6.3015:19
Amaranthso people will continue to have guides saying to install it15:19
Amaranthstability in jaunty has been fixed though15:20
ikoniaAmaranth: and that's where the crap side of this 6 month cycle comes in 15:20
elkyAmaranth, we'd prefer ones that are sane. that one isn't.15:20
ikoniaAmaranth: that should be back ported15:20
Amaranthelky: it's sane-ish compared to some other tricks I've seen people try15:20
majnoonjust so you know , i may be a pain in the ass in ot chan ,i'm not a troll ,and elky was right in banning me ,maybe say like 5 things in a week 15:21
Amaranthat least installing a new kernel doesn't mess up anything on your system, just boot with your old kernel and it goes back to normal15:21
ikoniamajnoon: ok, thanks for letting us know15:21
majnoon<<takes credit for what he does , just want to know how long ban is 15:22
ikoniaAmaranth: I can understand the work load if they want to make the libc headers match the current kernel, but it SHOULD be backported as a serious fix, but as you said it won't be - it will be a next release joke again15:22
elkymajnoon, that depends on if you plan to continue the same bahaviour after it's lifted or not.15:23
Amaranththe real joke is they're putting the karmic kernel in hardy in hardy-updates but won't put it in jaunty in jaunty-backports15:23
majnooni'll tone it down 15:23
ikoniaAmaranth: at least it's going into LTS - fully support that, but then there is no need to fix it in LTS15:23
majnoonno duck in cow stuffs15:23
Amaranthbut anyway, the choice is either that guide or telling people they can't make their computer faster15:23
ikoniaAmaranth: stupid it won't hit 9.0415:23
Amaranthikonia: it is going to 8.04 due to driver updates15:24
Amaranthso people can actually install 8.04 again15:24
ikonianon-lts releases are fire and release - it's crap and presents a really bad model 15:24
ikoniaAmaranth: ahhh15:24
ikoniaelky: sorry - didn't think there was work in here to be done, I'll shut up now15:25
elkyikonia, there wasnt until after you started15:25
ikoniaelky: I know but should have shut up quicker15:25
elkymajnoon, i'd much rather see no stupid remarks, not just 'no duck in cow stuffs'15:25
majnoonthat i CAN't guarentee ,have asperger's syndrome ,i WILL try to keep to a minimum 15:26
elkymajnoon, either way, you're waiting at least 24 hrs. come back then having read the guidelines and it can be discussed then15:32
elky!guidelines15:32
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines15:32
Myrttimajnoon: anything else you need help with?15:46
Myrttiwhy is boo_ resetting his root password again?16:28
Myrttioh, he's not16:29
Piciagain?16:31
Myrttis/again//16:31
cousteauisn't there any #ubuntu-es op anywhere??16:40
Picicousteau: Have you asked in #ubuntu-irc ? That channel handles loco irc issues.16:41
cousteauok, thx16:41
PiciARGH17:09
Pici12:08:50 <?Halitech> lesshaste, if you want to be advantureous you could simply edit your sources.list to point to hardy then apt-get update apt-get upgrade but I wouldn't suggest it17:09
PiciBut you just did!17:10
PriceyPici: Don't you know, apologising makes anything ok?18:43
Priceyas long as you acknowledge something is wrong, its ok18:43
ikoniacool18:48
* ikonia makes a note18:48
juan-arghellow my name is juan user raul troll in #ubuntu-es19:34
Seeker`juan-arg: I think you need to mention it in #ubuntu-irc19:35
juan-argsory no speak english only spanish19:35
PiciSólo manejar el canal principal de Ubuntu. por favor entrar en # ubuntu-irc para otras cuestiones.19:36
juan-argok gracias19:36
PiciRaúl apenas salió19:37
Picidisculpas por la mala español, estoy utilizando un programa de traducción19:37
juan-argok gracias19:37
Picigtrans.pl is pretty neat. It can do google translations within irssi19:38
jpdsPici: Dude, you're starting to creep me out.19:58
Picijpds: What did I do this time?19:59
ubottuTitan8990 called the ops in #ubuntu (dAnon)21:31
ubottujoaopinto called the ops in #ubuntu ()21:35
Myrtti[23:17] <mariahfemme> i'am Linda-Girl88@ in h0tmail . c0m in the MSN22:47
PriceyMyrtti: klined a while ago no?23:01
Priceyor at least gone?23:01
MyrttiPricey: wouldn't know23:05
Seeker`HOT23:43

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