[00:01] <Guest14623> ok here is mu link http://paste.ubuntu.com/205885/
[00:15] <Guest14623> does anyone have any hint as to where my problem is . I have been searching for an answer for days .
[00:17] <owh> Guest14623: What problem?
[00:18] <Guest14623> have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/205885/
[00:18] <owh> Phone. brb
[00:23] <owh> Guest14623: Where are you pinging from?
[00:24] <owh> Guest14623: Also, you have multiple instances of auto eth1 and auto eth0
[00:24] <Guest14623> from my home network . the server is attached to a switch and i can ping the 1st nic but the 2nd no dice
[00:24] <owh> Guest14623: So, you're pinging from within the same network as the server?
[00:25] <Guest14623> thats a pasting error on my part
[00:25] <Guest14623> ya , thats right
[00:25] <owh> Guest14623: Well, show us what it really looks like.
[00:26] <Guest14623> My server is connected to my switch with 2 connections , then i have my home network router where all my  personel computers are connected two
[00:26] <Guest14623> my router is also connected to my switch
[00:27] <owh> Guest14623: No, what I mean is, show us the real file, not one that has paste errors. We'll talk about testing after that.
[00:27] <owh> Guest14623: When tracking down a problem, you need to eliminate the issues, one at a time.
[00:27] <Guest14623> ok
[00:31] <Guest14623> ok , here are my interfaces http://paste.ubuntu.com/205904/
[00:33] <owh> Guest14623: Right, first we're going to check connectivity. Do you know how to disable interfaces?
[00:33] <Guest14623> ya , when i disconnect the 1st nic , the 2nd nic will work properly
[00:34] <Guest14623> i forgot to mention that
[00:34] <owh> Guest14623: So, if you disconnect eth0, eth1 works?
[00:34] <Guest14623> ya
[00:34] <owh> Guest14623: And vice-versa?
[00:34] <Guest14623> ya
[00:35] <owh> Does your ISP support the same account being logged in twice?
[00:35] <A|X> hello friends@
[00:35] <Guest14623> no , they are seperate logins
[00:36] <owh> Guest14623: Ah, sorry, was remembering what I saw in the previous pastebin.
[00:37] <owh> Guest14623: What does your routing table look like?
[00:37] <A|X> I'm having a stupid rediculous time getting anythign debain based to boot off this server
[00:37] <owh> A|X: Debian based? In a Ubuntu Server forum?
[00:38] <A|X> own... ?
[00:38] <A|X> you *do* know that Ubuntu is debain based, yes?
[00:38] <owh> A|X: Yes, I do, but I didn't know if you did. What is your problem?
[00:39] <A|X> owh, thats why I'm here :)
[00:39] <owh> A|X: I have learnt never to assume anything. It's cheaper.
[00:39] <A|X> lol
[00:39] <A|X> server 9.04  ,  or ubuntu desktop 7.10 ,  8.04 ,  and 8.10  all go to a busybox initram shell
[00:39] <A|X> which from what i've read, means it can't find the root partition when it boots
[00:40] <Guest14623> here ya go owh http://paste.ubuntu.com/205908/
[00:40] <A|X> but when i boot to the CD, and select the boot option "Install Ubuntu"   it goes to that shell,  so i'm not so sure that "can't find the root partition" is the issue
[00:40] <Guest14623> i gotta say thats for helping me , i have looked all over the net
[00:44] <Guest14623> here ya go owh http://paste.ubuntu.com/205908/
[00:44] <owh> Guest14623: I'm reading.
[00:45] <Guest14623> o sorry , i did not know if you seen it ... Thanks
[00:47] <owh> Guest14623: I'm still unclear what you're trying to achieve. Can you please explain?
[00:48] <Guest14623> i would like to have is both connections up and running being able to send and receive .
[00:48] <Guest14623> both connections to be independent with eth0 being the default connection
[00:49] <owh> Guest14623: So, should I imaging a web server serving two domains on different IPs, each using a different ppp link? Or something else?
[00:50] <owh> s/imaging/imagine/
[00:51] <hikenboot_> hello can anyone tell me the equivalent in ubuntu for emege -av nvidia-drivers?
[00:54] <Guest14623> i am running direct admin , so the 2nd nic would become name server ns1.
[00:55] <owh> Guest14623: So, if you ssh to each individual IP address, does it work?
[00:55] <Guest14623> no
[00:56] <Guest14623> i can only ssh to my nic 1 , but if nic gets disabled i can ssh to nic 2
[00:56] <Guest14623> its odd
[00:56] <owh> Guest14623: How are you disabling the interface?
[00:56] <Guest14623> i am wondering is its has somthing to do with my isp's hardware
[00:57] <Guest14623> i have no firewall up yet , nothing to block the access to the 2nd nic
[00:57] <owh> Guest14623: Again, how are you disabling the interface?
[01:00] <Guest14623> ifconfig eth0 down
[01:00] <owh> A|X: If you boot using things like disabling acpi, etc. Does it work?
[01:01] <owh> Guest14623: Does the routing table change?
[01:01] <owh> hikenboot_: On a server? The #ubuntu channel should have a !nvidia tip for you.
[01:05] <Guest14623> i have never disabled acpi . I just tried to disable eth0 (1st nic) and everything went wonky on my . it did not switch over to 2nd nic automaticially .
[01:06] <owh> Guest14623: acpi was not for you.
[01:06] <owh> Guest14623: When you disable the nic, does the routing table change?
[01:14] <hikenboot_> thanks owh
[01:14] <hikenboot_> its all about getting it working with xen...its a home server so it also a desktop
[01:15] <Guest14623> hello owh , ya the routing table does change . bascially deletes everything in the routing table
[01:16] <owh> hikenboot_: I would say for that problem. Treat it as a normal desktop first, get it working properly, then futz with it. Reduce the number of problems you're trying to solve at the same time.
[01:16] <hikenboot_> thanks owh
[01:17] <owh> Guest14623: I have the suspicion that your issue is that you have not configured your routing table. I *think* that you cannot rely on automatic behaviour in your environment. I'm no expert on routing, but there are FAQ's and HOWTO's for dual nic setups. All that you've told me indicates that this is your problem. Again, I may be completely wrong.
[01:17] <owh> hikenboot_: Pleasure.
[01:18] <scott1978> hello all: looking to turn ubuntu server into a media server for other pc's and xbox 360. looking for ideas how... any suggestions?
[01:19] <Guest14623> thanks owh , would you recommend any kind of how to's
[01:21] <A|X> owh, haven't tried.
[01:24] <scott1978> does anyone know about mediatomb?
[01:24] <owh> Guest14623: Google for "routing howto", there are several useful links there.
[01:39] <A|X> so yeah
[01:39] <A|X> it boots
[01:39] <A|X> after setting up 9.04 server
[01:39] <A|X> and says "Giving up waiting for root device
[01:39] <A|X> then goes into an initramfs shell
[01:43]  * A|X bangs his head against his desk
[01:45] <owh> A|X: All that means is that you again need to boot with it off, boot into rescue mode, update menu.1st with that kernel option - magic.
[01:47] <A|X> borgie borgie borgie
[01:47] <A|X> owh, will do. Thanks.
[01:51] <A|X> rescure mode == off disk
[01:51] <A|X> or is there some other rescue mode?
[01:51] <owh> A|X: Huh>
[01:51] <owh> s/>/?/
[01:51] <A|X> nvm
[01:51] <A|X> g
[01:52] <A|X> od damn clonezilla
[01:54] <A|X> hmm. So i'm on /dev/sda1
[01:54] <A|X> which is the root partition,  and i've just re-selected that as the root partition
[02:04] <A|X> EWASFDVXCGReqwdszxc
[03:07] <qiyong> is it good to use autofs on /home?
[03:27] <owh> qiyong: "good" in which sense?
[03:27] <qiyong> owh: good to use
[03:28] <owh> qiyong: That's like asking: "Is vi 'good' to use." - the question is meaningless. What are you trying to achieve that makes you think of using autofs.
[03:29] <qiyong> owh: to store user data centrally
[03:29] <qiyong> is autofs widely used?
[03:38] <owh> qiyong: Well, until you asked I'd never heard of it - which doesn't mean much. There was a FAQ dating back to 1998, indicating it's been around for a while. There are documents on the ubuntu.com domain. The idea seems interesting. So, I cannot give you a full throated support or denial either way. I've not looked if popcon shows it or not.
[05:05] <olman> tengo 2 red eth2 y eth0
[05:07] <olman> helpme with bridge utils
[05:28] <LiraNuna> anyone got experience with app armor?
[05:28] <maxagaz> hi
[05:29] <LiraNuna> it keeps telling me that apache2 is asking for DEFAULT_URI hat while it's already set
[05:29] <LiraNuna> when I "add" it and finish, it doesn't change a thing
[07:32] <hpierce> I need some help setting up a debug environment for Firefox...
[07:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #393357 in openldap (main) "package slapd 2.4.15-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393357
[07:40] <hpierce> Hi... anyone home?
[07:44] <ajmitch> hpierce: this is for server-related topics, not firefox, so you're most likely to find help in another channel
[07:44] <ajmitch> probably the ubuntu mozilla team channel, in that case
[07:49] <ubuntunom> .
[07:50] <ubuntunom> hpierce: no im at work
[07:55] <hpierce> ajmitch: when my system locks up, I am not clear it is the applications fault.
[07:56] <hpierce> I suspect it's a low level library.
[07:57] <hpierce> I have seen some of the banter on the forums, and any application can lock up your system points to a deeper problem.
[07:57] <hpierce> But, if there is a dev oriented ubuntu channel, I will happily go there or move back to SuSE where I did have the problem at all.
[08:15] <\sh> moins
[10:38] <Gorlist> does anyone have a list of which ports should be opened for a standard webserver (apache, ftp, smtp etc?)
[10:39] <\sh> Gorlist: for a standard webserver? incoming only port 80
[10:39] <alex_muntada> maybe 443 too ;-)
[10:39] <Gorlist> so only port 80, does that cover smtp etc?
[10:39] <\sh> Gorlist: smtp has nothing to do with http...if you want to send mails from your webhost, you have to open port 25 from internal to external net...but nothing more...
[10:39] <Gorlist> hmm
[10:40] <Gorlist> right thanks
[10:40] <\sh> ftp (passive in your case) only if you want to update your webstuff via ftp...then it's incoming port 21 and outgoing ports >1024
[10:40] <alex_muntada> Gorlist: making your SMTP daemon listen to localhost only usually is enough
[10:41] <Gorlist> Will go through it :) ive got ufw set to Deny allow currently
[11:00] <aljosa> i was looking at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ and searching for nagios section but nothing is there. is something else recommended instead of nagios?
[11:06] <alex_muntada> aljosa: a few days ago this topic was mentioned on the channel, it would seem that nagios is the "blessed" package for monitoring since it's in main
[11:07] <alex_muntada> however, no mention on the server guide, true
[11:36] <TJ`> hey new to ubuntu server
[11:37] <TJ`> can anyone help me out with routes?
[11:37] <TJ`> have 192.168.x.x and 10.1.5.x etc
[11:37] <TJ`> the server is on 10.x
[11:37] <TJ`> not seeing 192.x
[11:58] <bogeyd6> TJ`,  you need static route
[12:08] <rc55> Hi - I have a nameserver in Gentoo but it's ancient - apart copying from /var/bind and bind.conf (assuming this is correct), is there anything else i need to do assuming bind is installed on ubuntu (server 8.04.2)?
[12:53] <_ruben> rc55: you might need to alter you config / dir layout a bit .. other than that you should be fine .. (/etc/bind/named.conf and /var/cache/bind/ (or everything under /etc/bind/) tend to be the paths to use)
[12:53] <_ruben> oh and perhaps your rndc config/keys
[13:25] <heath|work> good morning.
[13:26] <RoyK> hi all. I have setup open-iscsi, but I have a little issue - how can I make that start before fstab is parsed?
[13:27] <heath|work> I am working on a system (web portal) for users from multiple domains to login and get access network resources between different systems like mail, web cms, users for their domain, etc. Is a LDAP server the best solution for this situation?
[13:43] <sommer> heath|work: I like LDAP for that type of setup... of course depending on the number of users another system may fit you better.
[13:45] <heath|work> hi sommer, the number of users will increase over the years. I am looking at open-exchange for the mail and calendar portion. According to their docs if will authenticate against LDAP. Using LDAP from an admin side looks a bit intimidating though.
[13:45] <heath|work> if => it
[13:49] <rags> I have a ipsec tunnel from a remote server and my ubuntu server here..the ubuntu server has two interfaces..one on .1 and the other .2...the ip sec is configured such tht  systems on Lan(.2) can access the tunnel.
[13:49] <rags> the problem is while other systems can access the tunnel thru ubuntu, ubuntu itself is unable to access any systems
[13:50] <rags> I think this is bcause it uses the wan ip i.e. (.1) and therefore is denied access on the tunnel...
[13:54] <heath|work> rags, Any systems?
[13:54] <rags> heath|work: systems on the remote n/w...
[13:54] <rags> heath|work: I mean using the tunnel
[13:54] <ivoks> so, ubuntu has two ips on two interfaces from the same C class?
[13:55] <rags> ivoks: no..sryy forgot tht....one is wan ip and the other is lan
[13:55] <heath|work> static routes?
[13:55] <rags> the wan is on the .1 n/w connected to a modem...and .2 is on the lan
[13:55] <ivoks> i realize that, can you tell us which ip exactly?
[13:55] <ivoks> so, 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2?
[13:56] <rags> ivoks: yes...exactly
[13:56] <rags> no..sorry
[13:56] <ivoks> so, how do you expect ubuntu to find 192.168.1.3?
[13:56] <rags> ivoks: different subnets
[13:56] <ivoks> ok then
[13:57] <rags> ivoks: 192.168.1.1 is the wan side..cconnected to the modem..and 192.168.2.1 is the lan with a couple of systems
[13:57] <ivoks> and the tunnel?
[13:57] <rags> the ip-sec is to a .4 n/w...which systems on the lan have no problem accessing, but from ubuntu itself it fails
[13:58] <ivoks> so, it's 192.168.2.4?
[13:58] <rags> no...(.4) subnet...
[13:58] <_ruben> rags: using openswan or racoon?
[13:58] <ivoks> ok
[13:58] <rags> like 192.168.4.5
[13:59] <rags> class C n/w...I think It is because of the two interfaces...I feel ubuntu is using the wan interface thru the tunnel or something..
[13:59] <_ruben> it most likely is
[14:00] <ivoks> use mtr
[14:00] <_ruben> the route to the remote network needs to have a src ip specified
[14:00] <ivoks> mtr IP
[14:00] <_ruben> damnit
[14:00] <_ruben> just did a dist-upgrade (including kernel) on my jaunty system .. now it fails to boot because it cant find my lvm
[14:00] <rags> mtr??...k...it's a packet capture?
[14:01] <heath|work> why can't you just add a route to those machines?
[14:01] <_ruben> ip route get 192.168.4.1 will show that its using the wrong source ip (not the one covered by ipsec)
[14:04] <rags__> heath|work: can't because ipsec is weird and I'm still trying to figure it out...the routes for ipsec can't be seen using normal route commands...
[14:04] <rags__> _ruben: I'm using racoon
[14:12] <_ruben> rags: never used racoon myself .. but trick is most likely do add a(n extra) route
[14:12] <rags__> Can't because ipsec is weird and I'm still trying to figure it out...the routes for ipsec can't be seen using normal route commands...
[14:12] <_ruben> sudo ip route add 192.168.4.0/24 via you.r.gate.way src 192.168.2.1
[14:13] <_ruben> if that doesnt work, then racoon sucks even more than i thought
[14:13] <_ruben> using openswan myself
[14:13] <rags__> _ruben: I mean it uses the spd ans sa for routing traffic and bringing the tunnel..
[14:13] <_ruben> rags__: the spds and sas are just fine .. using that route you'll actually be using em
[14:14] <_ruben> its more of a routing issue than ipsec really
[14:14] <rags__> _ruben: I'll try,but currently there are no routes at all to the tunnel n/w
[14:14] <_ruben> rags__: doesnt matter
[14:14] <rags__> it magically routes the packets thru the tunnels
[14:14] <rags__> _ruben: k...I'll try tht..
[14:14] <_ruben> its just a "helper" route .. it doesnt do any routing, its just there to change the src ip
[14:16] <rags__> the gateway is ubuntu it self...?
[14:18] <_ruben> it's its default gateway
[14:22] <rags__> _ruben: nope not working...
[14:22] <_ruben> rags__: try $ ping 192.168.4.1 -I 192.168.2.1
[14:22] <_ruben> assuming 192.168.4.1 exists
[14:23] <_ruben> also, do you have any NAT rules in place?
[14:24] <rags__> _ruben: I tried the interface ping...still not wokring...and yes I am usint NATT
[14:26] <_ruben> if even -I for ping doesnt work, NAT is another very likely problem
[14:26] <_ruben> source ip and NAT are the 2 most common issues with ipsec :)
[14:27] <_ruben> ow .. not just NAT, NAT-T even .. jikes .. nat traversal complicates things even more (which i should've noticed before)
[14:28] <_ruben> nat-t i never really had to mess with .. but be sure to double check your nat rules so that you dont nat your traffic thats supposed to go through the tunnel
[14:29] <rags__> _ruben: everything is working fine actually, only ubuntu is giving problems...
[14:34] <heath|work> anyone using virtualmin?
[14:37] <heath|work> or know if webmin can control multiple servers through one portal?
[14:42] <ewook> heath|work: you can setup relationships between webmin, yes.
[14:43] <heath|work> ewook, thanks, I am looking through the docs, but I haven't found anything on that yet.
[14:43] <ewook> oh.
[14:43] <ewook> heath|work: sry, can't point you in the right direction.
[14:44] <heath|work> it's cool. Just knowing it may do what I need is good enough to try it out.
[14:44] <ewook> left webmin behind after it destroyed a couple of config's for me a while back due to falty behaviour.
[14:46] <_ruben> !webmin
[14:46] <_ruben> ;)
[14:48] <rsr> hi
[14:50] <rsr> what is the option virtual machine host about? Does it tune the kernel for better performance as a virtual appliance server?
[15:00] <heath|work> rsr, during install?
[15:00] <rsr> yes
[15:01] <_ruben> rsr: it install kvm and its friends
[15:01] <rsr> theres an option on install
[15:01] <heath|work> _ruben, is there anything similar to it?
[15:01] <rsr> although I dont have hardware virtualization
[15:01] <_ruben> heath|work: similar to webmin? ebox
[15:01] <heath|work> rsr, kvm quem and everything
[15:01] <rsr> isnt kvm for hardware?
[15:01] <heath|work> _ruben, I will check it out now, thanks
[15:01] <_ruben> rsr: me neither, so uninstalled it again .. which deleted lvm2 package .. which made my new kernels unbootable .. sigh
[15:01] <rsr> my hardware doesnt support virtualization
[15:01] <_ruben> rsr: then dont install that option :)
[15:01] <heath|work> lol
[15:02] <rsr> ok
[15:02] <rsr> so I can just use kvm wthout the hardware virt support?
[15:02] <_ruben> dont think so .. qemu doesnt require it, but is dog slow
[15:02] <_ruben> without hardware support i'd go for either virtualbox or a vmware product
[15:02] <_ruben> or perhaps xen
[15:04] <rsr> _ruben: does virtualbox need a gui?
[15:04] <_ruben> rsr: dunno, never used it :)
[15:04] <_ruben> im a vmware guy
[15:04] <rsr> really?
[15:04] <rsr> is vmware opensource?
[15:05] <soren> No.
[15:05] <heath|work> virtualbox doesn't need a gui no
[15:05] <rsr> ok
[15:05] <_ruben> there's some free products though
[15:05] <soren> The open source version does.
[15:05] <heath|work> and I believe virt-manager can control it now
[15:06] <heath|work> I've been extremely happy with kvm so far
[15:06] <rsr> heath|work: Can I use kvm without hardware support?
[15:06] <heath|work> no id o not think so, how many virts are you trying to run?
[15:07] <rsr> I am starting a business based on joomla and sugarcrm so I will have an appliance for each client
[15:07] <soren> rsr: Yes, but it'll be as slow as qemu (i.e. very likely not useful at all).
[15:07] <rsr> righ now I only have one client
[15:08] <rsr> soren: what do you think I should go for? I only use opensource though
[15:08] <heath|work> rsr, it would be worth getting a hvm capable cpu and using kvm
[15:08] <rsr> heath|work: I cant spend the cash right now
[15:08] <rsr> I have to do with an athlon xp 22000+
[15:08] <soren> rsr: Better hardware :)
[15:08] <rsr> 2200
[15:10] <_ruben> xp 2200+ for hosting .. heh
[15:10] <_ruben> my 1700+ does a nice job as just file server.. wouldnt expect it to do much more
[15:10] <rsr> _ruben: dont underestimate...we have too much hardware power nowadays
[15:11] <rsr> an athlon xp 2200+ was just about a server platform 5 years ago
[15:11] <_ruben> tell that to the dual quad core xeons running esxi at work :p
[15:11] <rsr> hey
[15:11] <rsr> isnt esxi opensource and gpl?
[15:11] <_ruben> no .. its free though (under certain circumstances)
[15:12] <rsr> oh
[15:12] <heath|work> rsr, I just spent $150 and got 4gb of ram a hvm amd cpu and a video card
[15:12] <heath|work> from newegg
[15:12] <rsr> yeah I dont plan on spending any money
[15:12] <rsr> i built the server out of spare parts
[15:12] <rsr> im a startup
[15:13] <rsr> has a pretty fast fsb and HD though
[15:13] <heath|work> rsr, be careful with esxi, when you need to scale you could be spending big bucks
[15:13] <rsr> no I wont use it
[15:13] <rsr> I tend to stick to free technology
[15:13] <heath|work> We had a call with them last week... ouch
[15:14] <rsr> Ill have to try an alternative solution
[15:14] <heath|work> _ruben, do you know if ebox will manage multiple servers?
[15:15] <rsr> maybe ill have to install a gui for virtualbox since someone here said open source version doesnt support the command line
[15:15] <heath|work> rsr, why not just do virtual hosting and have 1 server?
[15:15] <rsr> heath|work: what do you mean?
[15:16] <heath|work> you just want a web server right?
[15:16] <rsr> pretty much...I could just install a turnkey ubuntu
[15:16] <rsr> ever heard of it?
[15:16] <rsr> but my idea was to use turnkeys on a host for easy backup
[15:17] <heath|work> rsr, this is a setup for hosting: http://howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.04-ispconfig-2
[15:17] <heath|work> That will cover email for your clients, hosting, ftp access, and they will have some control of those settings if you grant it to them
[15:18] <rsr> yes
[15:18] <rsr> pretty nice walkthrough
[15:26] <kwork> Address                  HWtype  HWaddress           Flags Mask            Iface
[15:26] <kwork> 172.16.16.2                      (incomplete)                              vlan260
[15:26] <kwork> why does it show incomplete as hwadr ?
[15:55] <bytenik> Hi there. I have compiled a new kernel from source on one computer, and created .deb packages from it. I then installed the packages and was up and running on the new kernel. Now I copied those packages over to another system and installed them, but some source packages complain even though I installed headers.
[16:08] <heath|work> ebox 1.0 not on jaunty ?
[16:12] <pmatulis> !info ebox jaunty
[16:29] <heath|work> I am amazed at how well KVM works over nfs
[16:29] <henkjan> heath|work: no troubles with migration?
[16:30] <heath|work> that's next on the list. I just got my new machine build with a hvm cpu so I can test that out.
[16:32] <heath|work> henkjan, I was thinking about trying glusterFS. Have you had any experience with that?
[16:33] <Steve[mbp]> morning everyone!
[16:34] <heath|work> morning!
[16:34] <Steve[mbp]> ^_^
[16:34] <uvirtbot`> Steve[mbp]: Error: "_^" is not a valid command.
[16:35]  * Steve[mbp] kicks uvirtbot` for thinking that an emote is a command
[16:38] <heath|work> do you think hdparm would be an accurate test for testing virts rum over nfs?
[16:53] <jmedina> heath|work: I always use bonnie++ or iozone
[16:54] <heath|work> jmedina, I will check those out
[17:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #393528 in bacula (universe) "package bacula-director-mysql 2.4.4-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393528
[18:03] <remote> is the `wl' module present in the ubuntu-server installation disc?
[18:26] <Jared555> hello, is there any way to make sure sysctl.conf is loaded fully for virtual machine bridging?
[18:27] <Jared555> currently the settings which control if bridges are sent through iptables are not loaded
[18:31] <jon_high9000> hello. I am trying to setup a mail server with postfix dovecot procmail and fetchmail. is there a simplistic way to set this up?
[18:31] <ScottK> jon_high9000: What Ubuntu release are you using?
[18:31] <jon_high9000> 9.04
[18:32] <ScottK> jon_high9000: Also why procmail?  You've already got dovecot for a delivery agent.
[18:32] <ScottK> jon_high9000: For Dovecot and Postfix, sudo apt-get install dovecot-postfix.
[18:32] <jon_high9000> Scottk: I am very green at this.
[18:33] <ScottK> jon_high9000: OK.  You probably don't want procmail.  Installing dovecot-postfix will give you a basic working config for getting mail delivered.
[18:33] <jon_high9000> Scott: I imagine it shows. lol
[18:33] <ScottK> You'll also want to look into spam and virus scanning.  See amavisd-new in the Ubuntu server guide.
[18:35] <jon_high9000> Scottk: do i need to install the Server cd? or can i just install it on my desktop?
[18:35] <ScottK> You can install it on your desktop if you're using it for that function too.
[18:36] <jon_high9000> is there any setup instructions for newbies?
[18:36] <jon_high9000> I have a gmail account as well
[18:36] <ScottK> The server guide has setup information.
[18:37] <webtech-m33> jon_high9000: there is a lot of good how tos on howtoforge.com
[18:38] <ScottK> webtech-m33: Generally it's better to use the Ubuntu docs if they cover what you need.  Most of what he needs is there.
[18:38] <jon_high9000> Scottk: I understand that dovecot has mbox feature which as i understand means that i can still use thunderbird 2.0.0.0.22
[18:39] <ScottK> It does, but I don't know the details.  mbox is so 1990's.
[18:40] <jon_high9000> Scottk: I hear ya. but unfortunately till they change the type of mailboxes we maybe using for the duration as far as i know.
[18:42] <_ruben> it doesnt matter what the MTA uses to store the mails .. since you'd be using dovecot, you'd fetch them using pop3/imap .. how your MUA then stores that data, is entirely up to the MUA
[18:42] <jon_high9000> Scottk:then again, I am very green.
[18:42] <ScottK> jon_high9000: AFAIK you're correct for Thunderbird.
[18:48] <jon_high9000> Scottk: so i use should use postfix amavis-new dovecot-postfix thunderbird as the mail client.
[18:49] <ScottK> jon_high9000: Read the amavisd-new information in Ubuntu server guide.  You'll want to add spamassassin and clamav to that.
[18:51] <jon_high9000> on the dovecot-postfix do i also install primary package postfix itself i assume?
[18:51] <frojnd> I've replug the external usb disk and check the dmesg before: http://pastebin.com/mb51dd76 and after: http://pastebin.com/m6ac1fed0 but there is no difference... My external usb disk is cold if I touch it... any ideas how can i check if it's completely dead? fdisk -l wont find external disk
[18:52] <ScottK> jon_high9000: dovecot-postfix will pull it in via dependency if it's not already installed.
[18:52] <jon_high9000> Scottk: I will look over the server guide . no problem
[18:53] <jon_high9000> thank you very much for your help. it was greatly appreciated.
[18:54] <jon_high9000> cya
[19:02] <frojnd> ah..
[19:02] <frojnd> wring dc adapter
[19:02] <frojnd> wrong
[20:14] <histo> is there a way to know whether a server requires a restart due to updates?
[20:16] <Linux_Time> a friend of me wan't to install a ubuntu version (8.10) on his 'homeserver' at a virtual machiene - how can i «downgrade» from Desktop to Serverversion? is the only difference KDE/Gnome Packs or more..?
[20:20] <maxb> AFAIK the only difference between Ubuntu "server" and "desktop" flavours is the selection of packages that are installed
[20:28] <ivoks> and kernel
[20:28] <maxb> the kernel is in a package :-)
[20:30] <ivoks> ?
[20:30] <heath|work> couldn't you start with apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[20:31] <heath|work> I can't make my mind up for our auth backend: OpenLDAP or MYSQL? any suggestions?
[20:38] <ivoks> for what?
[20:49] <Sam-I-Am> heath|work: openldap is not in the same category as mysql
[20:49] <Sam-I-Am> openldap can use a mysql backend...
[20:49] <heath|work> OpenLDAP seems pretty difficult to get a grip on. I've been reading about it a little bit.
[20:50] <Sam-I-Am> heath|work: its not bad... depends on what you're trying to do.  i'm not aware of anything that'll use mysql directly for auth tho.
[20:50] <heath|work> We will be running multiple systems (mail, web apps, etc) and it looks like OpenLDAP would be the best
[20:53] <heath|work> We will have lots of users with from different domains (user@domains.com) , so I am a little confused on how OpenLDAP will provide what we need.
[20:54] <heath|work> well.. just found Phaam and it looks promising
[20:54] <Sam-I-Am> you might want to check into zimbra
[20:55] <Sam-I-Am> its a package based on openldap and mail stuff that handles multiple domains and whatnot out of the box
[20:55] <Sam-I-Am> but you can do it with plain openldap and mail stuff
[20:55] <heath|work> sorry that was phamm
[20:55] <Sam-I-Am> that might work too... hadnt heard of it until now
[20:55] <heath|work> we are using open-exchange
[22:26] <Harryy> Hi. How would I set Ubuntu to use GMT+0 as the default system time? I have /etc/default/rcS UTC=yes, but it still shows my local time (GMT -5) :S
[22:27] <diffra> Harryy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata should work
[22:28] <diffra> or, simply, cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/GMT /etc/localtime
[22:28] <Harryy> oh cool thanks
[22:29] <Harryy> h@ubuntu:~$ uptime
[22:29] <Harryy> 21:29:03 up 1 day, 2:13, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.04, 0.00
[22:29] <Harryy> yay win :D
[23:08] <donspaulding> I want to enable an outside company to use SFTP to copy files to and from my Hardy server.  I want the files to live under the home directory of an existing user on the server, but I want the outsiders chrooted to a sub-directory, not the whole home dir, and without any shell access.  Can this be done with OpenSSH?  Can someone point me to the right docs?
[23:15] <Vog> donspaulding: you want an sftp server that uses ftp accounts
[23:15] <Vog> just asec trying to find a good doc.... *google is your friend*
[23:17] <Vog> this might work too but you'll need to setup specific permissions on the directories you mentioned. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/rhel-centos-linux-install-configure-rssh-shell.html
[23:19] <donspaulding> Vog: thanks, looking at the RSSH article now.
[23:57] <billybigrigger> hey all
[23:57] <billybigrigger> anyone here use webalizer for stats?
[23:58] <billybigrigger> anyone know how to get webalizer to read multiple log files? all i can see it that it will read a log file, access.log, but apache rotates it way too often for me, i think every week, so i have access.log .0 .1 and webalizer isn't showing full stats