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wildboy211	i can download the drivers onto a flash drive...	00:00
dunks	hoolz /etc/shadow	00:00
droptothetop	hoolz, did you actually enable the root account and set a password?	00:00
mdg	Devon_C: now right click on gnomad and you should get an option to install	00:00
Apollo2366	cbhl, It's not really a matter of practicality, more of a learning experience if you will. Anyway, I changed /etc/environment to include /home/eric/Software/flock but when I attempt to run flock-browser bash says "/usr/bin/flock-browser no such file or directory"	00:00
hero1900	hi guys have problem in Empathy 2.27.2 i can login in msn by it but all people appear offline but in reality some of them are online an one know what is the problem	00:00
hoolz	droptothetop i think so	00:00
hoolz	how do i find out?	00:00
mdg	Devon_C: then click "apply"	00:00
Devon_C	mdg: it's installed	00:01
hoolz	wait i think im just a "user" account	00:01
Devon_C	mdg: it gives me an option to uninstall	00:01
mdg	Devon_C: also grap gtkpod	00:01
droptothetop	hoolz, well if you set it, then it will be hashed in /etc/shadow	00:01
cbhl	Apollo2366: What did you type into bash, exactly?	00:01
mdg	grap/grab	00:01
Apollo2366	flock-browser	00:01
droptothetop	hoolz, you won't actually be able to see the password itself	00:01
Devon_C	mdg: :/ it doesn't support iPod touches	00:01
cbhl	wildboy211: Hm, that's a bit above my level, sorry. Perhaps someone else here can help you.	00:01
droptothetop	hoolz, just it's hash	00:01
Devon_C	mdg: or it least doesn't say anything about them	00:01
hoolz	oh	00:01
hoolz	is it crackable?	00:01
wildboy211	thanks anyways...	00:01
mdg	Devon_C: gtkpod does 1st generation	00:01
Devon_C	mdg: I'm reinstalling gnomad	00:01
droptothetop	hoolz, it would take awhile	00:01
krisss117	hi how change drivers wifi ?	00:01
Devon_C	mdg: oh, great!	00:02
cbhl	Apollo2366: what does "echo $PATH" tell you?	00:02
hoolz	droptothetop are there any vuln for ubuntu desktop	00:02
hoolz	or is it secure?	00:02
krisss117	how change drivers wifi ???	00:02
cbhl	hoolz: If you have physical access to the PC, you could always overwrite Ubuntu with another OS (e.g. Windows)... that could be considered "insecure"	00:03
mdg	Devon_C: I have a web page tutorial for gtkpod http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/07/how-to-use-gtkpod-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/	00:03
Devon_C	mdg: okay, I think I need to actually mount my iPod	00:03
Apollo2366	cbhl, that's weird, it prints what it was before I added my stuff to it	00:03
mdg	Devon_C: look at the link I sent	00:03
Mx	I know this is not the place,but I need help with php	00:03
Devon_C	mdg: so it's in there lol... okay	00:03
Apollo2366	cbhl, so everything except /home/eric/Software/flock	00:04
satellite	Excuse me y'all... is there a plugin for XCHAT that edits that capitalizes the first letter and adds punctuation?	00:04
cbhl	Apollo2366: Try restarting your terminal... if that doesn't help, try logging out and logging back in. If I recall correctly, /etc/environment only gets read a few times, so when you change it you need to force whatever it is that loads it to reread /etc/environment	00:04
wildboy211	anybody else think they can help me...i need to get my USB network adapter workign	00:04
th0r	wildboy211: I sent you a link where someone got that adapter working	00:05
mdg	Devon_C: update?	00:05
Apollo2366	cbhl, I'll try it...	00:05
cbhl	Apollo2366: okay	00:05
wildboy211	th0r...that is in spanish to me	00:05
Devon_C	mdg: hang on... still installing gtkpod	00:05
djtansey	all of a sudden, dvdrip no longer displays/refreshes the screen properly. when I click on File, etc menus, the screen is responsive. but none of the content of the window refreshes. i have to minimize/maximize the window to get anything to update (scrolling of the screen, filling out a field.) tried rebooting. nothing. only thing I had done recently was run apt-get autoremove to clean up some mythtv stuff. i also installed to p	00:05
djtansey	ython renaming tools. thoughts?	00:05
satellite	Excuse me y'all... is there a plugin for XCHAT that edits that capitalizes the first letter and adds punctuation?	00:05
mdg	Devon_C: okay	00:05
cyberghoser1	hello, does anyone know why when enabling blur in compiz it makes all the open windows black and really fast all the desktop? i cam fix it by recovery and fix X, i hace the 915gm chipset, thanks in advance :)	00:05
droptothetop	After a GDM login I get a black background with just the mouse pointer. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing the hangup? Based on this process list: http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=3ignm and this lsof: http://www.binpaste.com/v.php?id=h6a86	00:06
th0r	wildboy211: if that is too techie, your best option is going to be to buy another adapter	00:06
C-Peemp	I'm trying to compile the kernel following http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-kernel/	00:07
Apollo2366	cbhl, restarting the terminal didn't work, so brb	00:07
C-Peemp	but I get this error :	00:07
wildboy211	th0r...not too techie...just never used Linux before...	00:07
Devon_C	mdg: what do I do now that I have the gtkpod file saved? it's a .tar.gz	00:07
Devon_C	mdg: I'm guessing there's a console command to install it	00:07
mdg	Devon_C: did you use synaptic?	00:08
C-Peemp	"unexpected operator"	00:08
mdg	wildboy211: see this link http://blog.eksfiles.net/2008/11/02/follow-up-linksys-wireless-adapters-in-ubuntu-intrepid/	00:08
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C-Peemp	The changelog says we are creating 2.6.27.18-custom.	00:08
C-Peemp	However, I thought the version is ..-custom	00:08
mdg	Devon_C: if you used Synaptic - its installed	00:08
Apollo2366	cbhl, it worked! Thanks	00:09
mdg	Devon_C: plug in your ipod and if you music player comes up, close it the music player	00:09
cbhl	Apollo2366: Good to hear.	00:09
cbhl	Apollo2366: And you're welcome. Any other quick questions?	00:09
Devon_C	mdg: hang on...	00:09
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satellite	Everyone might find some humor in LMGTFY.COM	00:10
pw-toxic	hi, i',m using rhythmbox, and i have a folder with a collection of some jazz mp3s... how can i open these files if i have already imported all my mp3s? .. the jazz mp3s are from different groups/artists	00:10
evon	Is there a way to combine 2 partitions without losing data using gparted?	00:10
satellite	evon: I recommend using an external storage device	00:10
Apollo2366	cbhl, Know how to assign multiple names to the same executable, like gnome-text-editor and gedit are the same?	00:10
Devon_C	mdg: okay, I loaded up gtkpod and clicked Load iPod	00:10
Devon_C	mdg: nothing's happening	00:10
evon	satellite: I don't have one. is there another way?	00:10
AndorinKato	Okay, my friend running Kubuntu /really/ needs assistance, and people in #kubuntu are not paying attention. Can somebody please help me out?	00:11
wildboy211	how do i install ndiswrapper	00:11
wildboy211	?	00:11
mdg	Devon_C: Devon_C make sure no music player is open	00:11
satellite	evon: I would definitely not do anything until you backup your information.	00:11
cbhl	Apollo2366: Well, that would be a symbolic link, although sometimes they don't work as expected	00:11
Devon_C	mdg: gnomad2 was up	00:11
evon	satellite: but is there a way though?	00:11
Devon_C	mdg: lemme try again...	00:11
mdg	Devon_C: close gnomad2 banshee rhythmbox... etc.	00:12
satellite	evon: Not that I know of.	00:12
th0r	wildboy211: you can install ndiswrapper through synaptic	00:12
Apollo2366	cbhl, would I find info on that in the wiki?	00:12
cbhl	Apollo2366: I would start with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ln_(Unix)	00:12
mdg	Devon_C: close gtkpod	00:12
Apollo2366	Oh lol thanks	00:12
cbhl	Apollo2366: As well as the output of "man ln"	00:12
wildboy211	ok...i think i got a post on how to do that too...thanks	00:12
satellite	Everyone who has an extra minute please look at LMGTFY.COM This is not too offtopic.	00:12
evon	satellite: let me rephrase what I want to do. i have unallocated space at the beginning of my HD and I want to enlargen my partition to fill that space	00:12
mdg	Devon_C: then restart and before you click load ipod check again that no music player or anything is running	00:12
giampiero	Good evening everyone	00:13
Devon_C	mdg: okay, so you want me to restart my computer?	00:13
cbhl	Apollo2366: Just keep in mind that it might not work as expected -- for example, there's a program called busybox (which you may have heard of) which acts differently depending on what name it's called with	00:13
mdg	Devon_C: no not computer, just gtkpod	00:13
satellite	evon: If you are enlarging a partition, than you are not combining two with data... OK then Go for it.	00:13
Devon_C	mdg: thats what I thought, okay... trying again	00:13
giampiero	Hello I've got a problem can anybody please help?	00:13
Apollo2366	cbhl, thanks I'll keep it in mind	00:13
Devon_C	mdg: nope, still nothing :/	00:13
evon	satellite: I'm asking how to do it. I can't seem to do it in gparted	00:14
C-Peemp	I'm getting an error msg when I try to compile the kernel, can anybody help me?	00:14
Devon_C	mdg: is there a task manager prompt in ubuntu where I can end processes? maybe there's something still running in the background	00:14
C-Peemp	"The changelog says we are creating 2.6.27.18-custom.	00:14
C-Peemp	However, I thought the version is ..-custom"	00:14
mdg	Devon_C: click on media	00:14
mdg	need to make sure the mount point is right	00:15
satellite	evon: OH! rI believe you need to unmount the partition before you edit it.	00:15
evon	satellite: I did unmount	00:15
giampiero	Hello can anybody help me?	00:15
satellite	evon: and right click the partition and click enlarge?	00:15
startbox	Do i have to be root to unmount a partition?	00:16
evon	satellite: I did that but I can't enlargen	00:16
satellite	evon: RESIZE, rather.	00:16
satellite	evon: This is where i cant help you any longer.	00:16
mdg	Devon_C: ipod should be mounting at /media/ipod	00:16
giampiero	Hello can anybody help?	00:17
AndorinKato	My friend and I are having huge trouble getting her wireless to work... could somebody help?	00:17
mdg	hi AndorinKato :)	00:17
Devon_C	mdg: okay, I just exited out of all my windows, unplugged my iPod, then plugged it back in	00:17
Devon_C	mdg: it mounted again, as a digital camera	00:17
AndorinKato	Hi agian, mdg	00:17
mdg	Devon_C: I think the mountpoint is the problem	00:17
AndorinKato	again*	00:17
Devon_C	mdg: I would agree	00:17
AndorinKato	#kubuntu wasn't much help, nobody's paying attention	00:17
mdg	AndorinKato: what did you find out in kubuntu?	00:17
evon	Can anyone help me resize my partition? I would like to resize a partition from the front as opposed to the back	00:17
mdg	AndorinKato: do you have an icon with two computers on the menu bar across the screen?	00:18
AndorinKato	You refer to the network icon?>	00:18
mdg	AndorinKato: yes	00:18
AndorinKato	I believe she does, yes	00:18
giampiero	Hello?	00:18
giampiero	Hello?	00:18
giampiero	Hello?	00:18
FloodBot2	giampiero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:18
mdg	AndorinKato: what happens when she left clicks it?	00:18
Pici	giampiero: stop	00:18
evon	Can anyone help me resize my partition? I would like to resize a partition from the front as opposed to the back	00:18
mdg	Devon_C: try a right click on load ipod and see if you get a box saying "initialize ipod"	00:19
giampiero	Can anybody help me? Say at least yes or no, please...	00:19
cbhl	giampiero: Please begin by stating a brief statement as to what your issue is	00:19
AndorinKato	Hold on, going to ask.	00:19
Devon_C	mdg: nope, nothing	00:19
cbhl	giampiero: Then people can assess whether they know enough about your problem to help you	00:19
AndorinKato	Have to talk to her either on downstairs computer, where she can dl things, or upstairs on the phone where her computer is	00:19
mdg	Devon_C: do you get any dialog boxes when you click load ipod?	00:20
giampiero	I tried to install sdlmame (emulator software)....	00:20
Devon_C	mdg: no	00:20
giampiero	...but it was installed in some directories inside File system	00:20
giampiero	Allo those directories are read only...	00:20
Pici	!enter \| giampiero	00:20
ubottu	giampiero: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	00:20
\|sam\|	anyone know of performances issues with nvida graphics cards drivers.. with games in wine? l4d works straight from box. but i get 12fps ..	00:21
mdg	Devon_C: Do you see, on the gktpod dialog box ipod, local and podcasts?	00:21
\|sam\|	nobody in winehq seems to reply..	00:21
Devon_C	mdg: BTW; my iPod touch has music, videos, and some photos stored on it - but it obviously cant take them	00:21
evon	Can anyone help me resize my partition? I would like to resize a partition from the front as opposed to the back	00:21
Devon_C	mdg: and no, I see Music Library then Podcasts	00:21
AndorinKato	mdg: She gets two boxes, one for VPN and one for ethernet.... nothing for VPN and 'networking interface not available' under ethernet	00:22
AndorinKato	mdg: And nothing at all about wireless.	00:22
mdg	Devon_C: do you see anything about preferences under the gtkpod Tools menu?	00:22
Devon_C	mdg: no... :/	00:22
mdg	AndorinKato: have her right click on that icon	00:22
giampiero	I tried to install sdlmame (emulator software), but it was installed in some directories inside File system. All those directories are read only, thus preventing me from copying files I need into them (it states "root" as the only allowed to do so).Can anybod tell me how I could fix it?	00:23
evon	Can anyone help me resize my partition? I would like to resize a partition from the front as opposed to the back	00:23
ed__	hello out there Thank you UBUNTU for changing my life	00:23
Devon_C	mdg: under tools it says Play Now, Enqueue, Normalize Volume, Synchronize All, Synchronize Contacts, Synchronize Calendar, Synchronize Notes	00:23
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sebastien_	ed__, how did ubuntu change you rlife ?	00:23
cbhl	giampiero: try launching the program in the same folder as the files you need, specifying the name of the program then the filename in the terminal	00:24
AndorinKato	mdg: Manage connections, network management settings, panel options	00:24
mdg	AndorinKato: is "enable networking" checked?	00:24
AndorinKato	mdg: There is no 'enable networking' option when she right-clicks the icon.	00:24
cbhl	giampiero: For example, "sdlmame <my filename>"	00:24
Kjell	giampiero: to copy use sudo cp <source> <destination>	00:24
giampiero	The install file does everything on its own, I don't think I can change destination directories...	00:24
mdg	Devon_C: click the browse button	00:24
mdg	AndorinKato: is there a "connection information" option	00:25
Devon_C	mdg: the browse button where?	00:25
cbhl	giampiero: What file do you need to copy into those directories, exactly?	00:25
AndorinKato	mdg: No, the only two relevant options are manage connections and network management settings.	00:25
mdg	Devon_C: not sure - the guide I am looking at says "browse" button	00:25
mdg	AndorinKato: you want manage connections	00:25
Devon_C	mdg: is it in gtkpod?	00:25
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AndorinKato	Ok	00:25
giampiero	sdlmame is an emulator for old arcade games, so I need to copy the roms of the games I want to run.	00:25
mdg	Devon_C: I believe so...	00:26
cbhl	giampiero: Most emulators that I am aware of don't require the ROM to be in the same folder as the emulator itself...	00:26
Devon_C	mdg: we might be having a problem because I don't think the iPod touch is supported by gtkpod. Are you sure it is?	00:26
bsmith_	I'm trying to set up a web server on dyndns.org without a router. Can someone help me?	00:26
Devon_C	mdg: maybe I installed the wrong version of gtkpod	00:26
mobi-sheep	audacious is now part of ubuntu-desktop?	00:27
mdg	Devon_C: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/07/how-to-use-gtkpod-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/#using	00:27
AndorinKato	mdg: The window that pops up has five different tabs for configuring different connections, three of which are greyed out. One of these is wireless.	00:27
burder	Heya! Quick question, I have 450GB of stash on my hard drive (Currently running Windows) - And im installing ubuntu.. Any way I can install ubuntu.. Without loosing all my stuff Its an (NTFS) Partition... - ty in advance.'	00:27
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giampiero	cbhl: the install file created a "Roms" folder into file system. I could change the path to a new folder by editing an .ini file wich is unfortunately also into file system and therefore read-only...	00:28
mobi-sheep	Where would I go to propose a change in certain package?	00:28
raylu	how do i prevent my bluetooth adapater from turning on at bootup? i have to disable it every time through system > prefs > bluetooth every time	00:28
mdg	AndorinKato: is there an "unlock" option on that screen?	00:28
raylu	!launchpad \| mobi-sheep	00:28
ubottu	mobi-sheep: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/	00:28
giampiero	cbhl: so I don't know how to fix that.	00:28
AndorinKato	mdg: No.	00:28
Devon_C	mdg: hmm... I'm trying to figure out where that initialize iPod window would be?	00:28
Kjell	raylu: start up application	00:29
mdg	AndorinKato: this is a usb wifi adapter?	00:29
bsmith_	Anyone with dyndns.org knowledge?	00:29
mdg	Devon_C: did you try left click and right click on the load ipod	00:29
raylu	Kjell: that doesn't prevent the adapter itself from powering up	00:29
tyler_d	my wireless connection is active on my presario R3000 but the wireless networks dont show	00:29
giampiero	cbhl: I hope I managed to explain clearly...	00:29
tyler_d	?	00:29
AndorinKato	mdg: No, it's a wireless card that is installed into her motherboard.	00:29
Devon_C	mdg: yeah, I did... :/	00:29
giaco	hello	00:30
Kjell	raylu: Then you can remove the module when the modprobe list I guess	00:30
mobi-sheep	raylu: Where under Launchpad? There are either File a bug or Ask a question?	00:30
raylu	mobi-sheep: i think you file a bug and mark it as a feature request, but i'm not sure.	00:30
Devon_C	mdg: okay, let's start from the beginning again - I just exited gtkpod and re-plugged in my iPod	00:31
cbhl	giampiero: You have two options...	00:31
raylu	tyler_d: "sudo iwlits sc" may help you	00:31
Devon_C	the window comes up	00:31
startbox	Guys! is tmp the only "temp" folder in ubuntu	00:31
tyler_d	had help earlier but my machine then crashed and now I don't have it working, commands aren't showing in history either?	00:31
raylu	tyler_d: *iwlist	00:31
MrPockets	why would you get an Initramfs bustbox shell when installing 8.10 ?	00:31
raylu	tyler_d: your bash history is at ~/.bash_history	00:31
raylu	tyler_d: and can also be searched by typing something at the prompt and hitting ctrl+r	00:31
giaco	I'd like to join 5 high resolution pngs into an avi file (1600x1200) where every image stays for 3 seconds, and then the next one. Which linux software would you use to accomplish this? Do you know the mencoder command?	00:31
cbhl	giampiero: As far as I can tell, you can either A) attempt to read the output of "man sdlmame" and set up a config file outside of the root-owned folder (you will need to pass arguments to sdlmame everytime you run it)	00:31
tyler_d	raylu: system crashed	00:31
Devon_C	mdg: the window comes up and it says "Apple, Inc. iPod" You have just inserted a medium with digital photos. Choose what application to launch."	00:31
mdg	Devon_C: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1363	00:32
cbhl	giampiero: Or you can use "sudo" to run editors and/or copy files into the root-owned directory ("e.g. sudo gedit or sudo cp <from> <to>"	00:32
tyler_d	raylu: now that lists the wireless networks, but through network manager they don't show?	00:32
cbhl	giampiero: * (e.g. "sudo gedit" or "sudo cp <from> <to>")	00:32
raylu	tyler_d: no idea, then	00:32
mdg	Devon_C: the computer is seeing your ipod then :)	00:32
raylu	tyler_d: but now you know that it's not a drive rissue	00:32
AndorinKato	mdg: No, it's a wireless card that is installed into her motherboard.	00:32
cbhl	giampiero: Does that make sense?	00:32
tyler_d	yup yup	00:32
tyler_d	ty raylu	00:33
Giraffe	I'm having problems with sound lag in games on Intrepid; I think the issue is SDL-related. Has anyone else had similar issues?	00:33
tyler_d	anyone else have an idea?	00:33
raylu	!gksu \| cbhl	00:33
ubottu	cbhl: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	00:33
giampiero	cbhl: I will give it a try, thank you very much for your help it was very kind of you.	00:33
cbhl	raylu: whoops, sorry about that -- thanks for the tip	00:33
halberd	is there a hardware manager for ubuntu?	00:33
halberd	er, for gnome	00:34
burder	Heya! Quick question, I have 450GB of stash on my hard drive (Currently running Windows) - Can I install Ubuntu Without loosing all my stuff. Its an (NTFS) Partition... - ty in advance.'	00:34
halberd	I know kde has one	00:34
cbhl	giampiero: Apparently for gedit you should be using "gksudo gedit"... thanks to raylu for the correction	00:34
AndorinKato	halberd: I think you have to do it through the terminal.	00:34
mdg	AndorinKato: whats the name of the adapter again?	00:34
Devon_C	mdg: hang on... this isn't going to work for an iPod Touch	00:34
raylu	!dualboot \| burder	00:34
ubottu	burder: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot	00:34
tyler_d	so the network-manager is not showing the wireless connections? unable to connect through it.	00:34
AndorinKato	mdg: D-link wda 1320.	00:34
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tyler_d	says wireless network not managed in grey there	00:35
raylu	tyler_d: sounds like you configured it in /etc/network/interfaces, so network-manager is ignoring it	00:35
tyler_d	so I should roll back the changes made to /etc/network/interfaces?	00:36
giampiero	cbhl: is there any way to make the content of file system available for write also?	00:36
Devon_C	mdg: okay I think I did it	00:36
halberd	kde has kde-hal-device-manager	00:36
halberd	ubuntu has nothing like that?	00:36
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mdg	AndorinKato: this is a broadcom adapter	00:36
raylu	tyler_d: so... you did make changes? did you back them up or something?	00:36
halberd	or I could just get the kde one	00:36
raylu	!permissions \| giampiero	00:37
ubottu	giampiero: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions	00:37
tyler_d	raylu: I did make changes to the file... added wlan0=managed within there as well	00:37
AndorinKato	mdg: Ok, cool, but where does that get us?	00:37
raylu	giampiero: also, generally, you can configure software on a per-user basis with a configuration file in your home directory. reading the documentation for your specific app will help you with that	00:37
raylu	tyler_d: yes, i'd recommend reverting those changes then	00:37
giampiero	Thank you very much everybody :-)	00:37
Devon_C	mdg: nope, it came up again as a digi camera	00:38
CAZ_au	Is it possible to have a WiFi adaptor working in Ubuntu that runs on a VM	00:38
mdg	AndorinKato: type "ifconfig" in a terminal	00:38
mdg	Devon_C: I'm not sure what to tell you.	00:39
AndorinKato	mdg: We have done that and she got results for eth0 and lo.	00:39
Devon_C	mdg: yeah, thanks for all your help so far	00:39
satellite	Can I connect to a wifi network on wlan0 in a failsafe terminal?	00:39
AndorinKato	mdg: I ran the command on my laptop for comparison and I got a wlan0 section, which she did not.	00:39
mdg	Devon_C: your welcome -wish we could have gotten it to work	00:40
Devon_C	mdg: I think putting it into disk mode might do the trick	00:41
Devon_C	mdg: I just found a way to do it, but all it's doing for my iPod is turning it off	00:41
raylu	AndorinKato: different drivers, different device names	00:41
mdg	Devon_C: i think you want it off in disk mode - like a usb	00:41
jigp	good morning :) i have 1 freenode and 1 bitlbee. how to connect to another irc	00:42
jigp	server and to disconnect in 1st server or 2nd server without	00:42
jigp	affecting the 1st or 2nd server or whichever server irc to	00:42
jigp	disconnect and not to disconnect. thanks	00:42
FloodBot2	jigp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:42
jigp	sorry	00:42
Devon_C	mdg: I'll try that next	00:42
AndorinKato	raylu: Then what should ifconfig show her that has to do with wireless?	00:42
linuxguy2009	Can anyone recommend a good WYSIWYG(no coding required) web design application? Doesn't appear to be many so far but hopefully I'm wrong.	00:42
raylu	AndorinKato: sorry, haven't been following the conversation, so i have no idea. just mentioning after reading your last line	00:42
Flannel	jigp: /connect [server]	00:43
AndorinKato	Ok	00:43
raylu	AndorinKato: also, if the device isn't up, ifconfig -a will show it	00:43
jigp	good morning :) i have 1 freenode and 1 bitlbee. how to connect to another irc server and to disconnect in 1st server or 2nd server without affecting the 1st or 2nd server or whichever server irc to disconnect and not to disconnect. thanks	00:43
jigp	Flannel: okay how to disconnect server irc 1?	00:43
jigp	Flannel : without affecting the server 2...	00:43
raylu	jigp: /wn will get you a new window. ctrl+x will switch servers. you can /disconnect from there. /server list will also help you	00:43
mdg	AndorinKato: did she get a cd with drivers?	00:43
Flannel	jigp: Go to window 1, and you use ctrl-x to cycle through them, then /disconnect	00:43
raylu	oh, right, if you still have the status window enabled, that'll work too	00:44
AndorinKato	raylu: Now she also gets pan0 but still nothing for wireless	00:44
Devon_C	mdg: looks like I'll have to wait until my sister moves out - I can take her desktop with Windows XP installed on it	00:44
jigp	Flannel : window 1 which is the [status] right?	00:44
Devon_C	mdg: but man, I really wish this would have worked	00:44
raylu	AndorinKato: what card/driver is "she" using?	00:44
Flannel	jigp: correct, after your nick you see something like: [1:freenode (change with ^X)]	00:44
Flannel	jigp: That'll change as you cycle	00:44
mdg	Devon_C: did you update your 2 day old install?	00:44
Devon_C	mdg: yeah, of course	00:44
Devon_C	mdg: I can check for updates then restart	00:45
Devon_C	see if that helps	00:45
AndorinKato	mdg: She says she did but apparently the disc is designed for Windows	00:45
mdg	Devon_C: just checking -	00:45
jigp	Flannel : so win i do cntl+x i will just type /disconnect server1 ? and server2 will not disconnect?	00:45
mdg	AndorinKato: that's okay. We need the WIN XP driver from it. But before that	00:45
Flannel	jigp: just /disconnect will disconnect you from your current server	00:45
AndorinKato	raylu: Her wireless card is a D-link WTA 1320	00:45
jigp	Flannel : win/when	00:45
linuxguy2009	Man I wish there was a DreamWeaver replacement for Linux.	00:45
mdg	AndorinKato: we need to make sure ndiswrapper and ntgdisk are installed	00:45
AndorinKato	Ok	00:45
raylu	linuxguy2009: there's a better one. it's called a text editor	00:45
sebastien_	nothing replace Dreamweaver	00:46
Devon_C	mdg: hmmm... something just updated	00:46
jigp	Flannel : ok thanks :) good morning	00:46
sebastien_	the best WYSIWYG	00:46
Flannel	!html \| linuxguy2009	00:46
ubottu	linuxguy2009: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/	00:46
AndorinKato	mdg: She has neither.	00:46
linuxguy2009	raylu: Im too lazy to learn HTML coding. Why bother.	00:46
cyberghoser1	mdg, actually it's ndisgtk ;)	00:46
raylu	linuxguy2009: it's not even coding. and you should bother because nobody wants more crap spit out of wysiwyg editors on the internet	00:46
sebastien_	aren't you a pro dev linuxguy2009 ?	00:47
mdg	AndorinKato: we need to go in through synaptic Menu - Administration -Synaptic	00:47
Devon_C	oh, and another quick thing - anyone can answer this	00:47
raylu	sebastien_: he uses dreamweaver, what kind of question is that?	00:47
Devon_C	how do I hide folders? is there an option in preferences?	00:47
linuxguy2009	nope not a pro at all.	00:47
Devon_C	I couldnt seem to find it	00:47
linuxguy2009	brb	00:47
AndorinKato	mdg: Real quick, she isn't connected to the Internet, will this make a difference?	00:47
raylu	Devon_C: the simplest way is to start their names with a .	00:47
Flannel	raylu: When helping, please be helpful.	00:47
mdg	cyberghoser1: thanks!	00:48
Devon_C	raylu: so start with a "."	00:48
cyberghoser1	:)	00:48
Eternal_Sin	hi everyone	00:48
cyberghoser1	hi Eternal_Sin	00:48
sebastien_	hi	00:48
raylu	Flannel: sorry :(	00:48
Devon_C	raylu: that didn't work :/	00:49
mdg	AndorinKato: yes she needs internet access somehow to get these	00:49
raylu	Devon_C: what did you do?	00:49
AndorinKato	mdg: Well, her entire problem is that she's trying to /get/ connectefd	00:49
AndorinKato	-f	00:49
Devon_C	raylu: the folder name is pf3 so i changed it to ".pf3"	00:49
raylu	AndorinKato: you can't temporarily plug in an ethernet cable?	00:49
cyberghoser1	Devon_C, if you put a dot in front of the file/folder you want to hide it will not show up in nautilus unless you use preferences -> show hidden folders	00:50
AndorinKato	raylu: No, I don't think she has one long enough anyway	00:50
mdg	AndorinKato: no ethernet adapter and cable?	00:50
raylu	Devon_C: it should be hidden when you "ls" that directory now. and what cyberghoser1 said about nautilus	00:50
Devon_C	raylu: yeah, that worked	00:51
Devon_C	thanks!	00:51
mdg	are ndiswrapper and ndiskgtc on the install cd - does anyone know?	00:51
raylu	mdg: pretty sure they're not	00:51
raylu	prepare for dependency hell.	00:51
Devon_C	alright folks... thanks for all your help! especially mdg, thanks so much man	00:52
mdg	AndorinKato: are you and your friend in the same location?	00:52
hikenboot_	hello can anyone tell me the equivalent in ubuntu for emege -av nvidia-drivers?	00:52
AndorinKato	mdg: No, I'm talking to her over the phone	00:52
Devon_C	I'll be rolling out now	00:52
mdg	Devon_C: your welcome - wish it would have turned out better	00:52
raylu	hikenboot_: aptitude install nvidia-glx	00:52
Flannel	mdg, raylu: ndiswrapper is, and... ndisgtk is too.	00:52
raylu	hikenboot_: there's no real equivalent to -a, but -s simulates	00:52
et	!slap Varakh	00:53
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about slap Varakh	00:53
mdg	Flannel: can you walk AndorinKato how to install them from disk?	00:53
mdg	Flannel: I've never done that from the install disk before	00:54
hikenboot_	raylu, i am following these gentoo directions http://legroom.net/2008/06/22/running-binary-nvidia-drivers-under-xen-host but it seems like their command installs it against a different kernel source...	00:54
mdg	Flannel: Oh, you add the disk through SYnaptic right?	00:54
undertaker	tgv	00:54
giaco	I'd like to join 5 high resolution pngs into an avi file (1600x1200) where every image stays for 3 seconds, and then the next one. Which linux software would you use to accomplish this? Do you know the mencoder command?	00:54
Flannel	mdg, AndorinKato: put your install CD in the drive (with Ubuntu running), if it doesn't automatically pick it up, go to a terminal and do: `sudo apt-cdrom add` and then your CD will be added as a repository. Then use whatever package manager you want (synaptic) to install the package.	00:54
raylu	hikenboot_: that command should install it for the currently running kernel's source.. probably.	00:54
Flannel	mdg: Yeah, it's just a repo on the CD	00:54
mubu	Hey guys is there any command or way to know what version of an application i have installed (i didnt install it through synaptic).? Im interested in know what version of AWN (avant window manager) I am running. Thanks	00:54
AndorinKato	Flannel: Before we get into it, she's running Kubuntu 9.04. Does this make a difference?	00:55
mdg	Flannel: that's easy! :) Thanks!	00:55
raylu	mdg: by default, i think there's a commented line in /etc/apt/sources.list with the cd repo	00:55
Flannel	AndorinKato: I'll double check the Kubuntu CD	00:55
Flannel	raylu: Only if you install with the alternate CD	00:55
raylu	mubu: mos tapps have --version	00:55
myk_robinson	how do you configure virtual hosts for Apache in Ubuntu Jaunty?	00:56
raylu	Flannel: i've always installed with the desktop cd on a usb and it's been there	00:56
raylu	mubu: *most apps	00:56
mubu	raylu will try it out thanks	00:56
mdg	Flannel: can I ask -how did you determine they are on the install cd?	00:56
raylu	myk_robinson: there are a ton of guides on the internet. also, try #ubuntu-server	00:56
mubu	raylu wokred like a charm	00:56
Flannel	mdg: hmm, kubuntu doesn't have a .list file for some reason. Yeah, This file lists everything on the CD (for this particular version): http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.list	00:57
Flannel	mdg: That's in the same folder on the mirrors as the ISOs themselves, .list is a listing of the contents of the CD, .manifest is a list of the packages built into the live image	00:57
Flannel	myk_robinson: What are you trying to configure?	00:58
mdg	Flannel: I did not know that - excellent! :)	00:58
^Phantom^	Can anyone please recommend me a good tv tuner program for ubuntu?	00:58
myk_robinson	Flannel: I want to use /home/user/Public/WWW as the root, with subfolders inside for sites I am working on for testing before uploading to a real webserver	00:58
marca311	^Phantom^: Myth TV	00:59
Flannel	myk_robinson: Does it hvave to be root? or can it be domain/~user/? since that's already set up actually.	00:59
ewsubach	i am having trouble deleting files. I am logged in as root, the files are owned by root, they do not have any special extended attributes, but yet rm says "cannot remove 'file_name': Permission denied"	00:59
* ^Phantom^ looks into it		00:59
myk_robinson	Flannel: for example, /home/user/Public/WWW/siteA /home/user/Public/WWW/siteB	00:59
AndorinKato	Flannel: So I suppose that you can't be sure whether those files are on the CD?	00:59
mdg	Flannel: we decided that kubuntu has ndiswrapper and ndiskgtk on the cd? I was reading... sorry	00:59
myk_robinson	Flannel: I meant as the root directory for Apache, not root user	00:59
Flannel	myk_robinson: Righ, I know.	00:59
iceroot	ewsubach: read-online file-system?	00:59
ewsubach	iceroot: nope	01:00
Flannel	myk_robinson: Would a subfolder for your username be sufficient? or do you actually need the webroot?	01:00
MellowDude	hi all	01:00
raylu	ewsubach: show us the actual command you're using?	01:00
^Phantom^	do i need the control centre too?	01:00
MellowDude	do u all know a good alternative to norton ghost	01:00
myk_robinson	Flannel: not really sure. I have been doing a little reading and may have gotten confused. What do you recommend? I want to use a directory that does not require Root privileges	01:00
Flannel	mdg, AndorinKato: I know Ubuntu does. Kubuntu almost certianly has ndiswrapper, but it's doubtful it has a GTK utility. I can't verify, since I don't see a .list file, but you could open up the kubuntu CD in a file browser and look	01:00
iceroot	MellowDude: what is norton ghost?	01:00
JackGray	keep forgetting... how do you attach to the currently open x on the /host's/ side of ssh (i.e. how do you open applications and have them show up on the host's screen rather than -X over the client's)	01:00
marca311	^Phantom^: idk	01:01
ewsubach	raylu: root@ewslaptop:~/.local/share/Trash/files/BackupSecure/Backup# rm *	01:01
MellowDude	iceroot its an HD ghosting program	01:01
g-hennux	hi!	01:01
iceroot	myk_robinson: use mod_userdor /home/username/public_html as your www-root	01:01
sebastien_	oh hi	01:01
Apollo2366	Anyone know where I can find an .svg version of the icon for the Flock browser?	01:01
iceroot	myk_robinson: mod_userdir	01:01
Flannel	myk_robinson: If you put stuff in ~/public_html/ (and make it readable by the user www-data) then it'll show up at http://whatever/~username/	01:01
g-hennux	my nikon coolpix camera doesn't work any more via usb in (k)ubuntu	01:01
Apollo2366	the download doesn't come with one	01:01
g-hennux	i.e. neither can i mount it nor can digikam open it	01:02
Flannel	myk_robinson: This is just a test machine and stuff?	01:02
mdg	Flannel: i wonder if there is a kubuntu equivalament of ndiskgtc?	01:02
myk_robinson	Flannel: yes, on my laptop, just want to be able to test sites before uploading	01:02
g-hennux	[20938.389161] usb 4-2: usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd gvfs-gphoto2-vo rqt 33 rq 102 len 0 ret -110	01:02
Flannel	myk_robinson: alright, then what we'll do is simply do some permission-magic to make it so you don't need to use sudo to throw stuff into /var/www/	01:02
raylu	myk_robinson: then why do you need virtual hosts?	01:02
marca311	^Phantom^: it has an IRC room. Same server as this, #mythtv_users	01:03
Flannel	myk_robinson: The easiest way to do it is to add yourself to the www-data group (sudo adduser username www-data) and then sudo chmod g+w /var/www	01:03
legend2440	MellowDude: i use partimage.	01:03
marca311	^Phantom^: sorry I mean #mythtv-users	01:04
myk_robinson	raylu: I read some of the tutorials online, and am just regurgitating what they claim i needed to do. That's why i came here, I already read some stuff online and it all seems to conflict with each other	01:04
Flannel	myk_robinson: You'll have to log back in for the group addition to take effect, but you'll then be able to write to /var/www as your regular user	01:04
mdg	AndorinKato: you still with us?	01:04
myk_robinson	Flannel: you mind if I make this private so i can keep up for a sec?	01:04
Flannel	myk_robinson: I don't mind repeating or whatnot, but sure.	01:04
AndorinKato	mdg: Yes, just in PM with someone atm, thank you	01:04
mdg	oh okay	01:04
^Phantom^	Oh okay. Thankies, marca311	01:05
MellowDude	i found a program called Ghost for Linux but i dont know if its any good or not	01:06
legend2440	MellowDude: ive used both g4l and partimage. i like partimage better	01:07
ewsubach	raylu: found the problem, it was a directory higher up than the one i was in that had the lsattr i flag	01:08
satellite	Failed to execute child process "/opt/firefox/firefox" (No such file or directory) ----- How do i fix this error? I have to run firefox-3.0 to use firefox.	01:08
raylu	ewsubach: i see	01:08
raylu	satellite: how did you install firefox? also, what's the output of "which firefox"	01:09
bastidrazor	satellite, in terminal type which firefox-3.0	01:09
satellite	one second	01:09
satellite	No output.	01:09
sAM_	satellite: sudo apt-get remove Firefox --purge then sudo apt-get install Firefox	01:09
satellite	cool beans.	01:09
raylu	satellite: and the answer to the first question?	01:09
ZummiG777	Question: I'm running into an issue with 9.04 that wasn't in 8.04 - when I try to copy files with long filenames/paths that were valid in 8.04 I'm getting an error that the filenames are too long. Is there a workaround or setting to resolve that?	01:10
ocarinahuff	how do I use irssi to connect to xbmc irc?	01:10
raylu	sAM_: if he has firefox installed some other way, that won't be such a great idea	01:10
satellite	Fresh ubuntu install... then like an idiot followed the firefox2 tutorial , old one.	01:10
sAM_	yeh you are righ raylu :(	01:10
satellite	I did something with dpkg -deflect ...... Or something	01:10
raylu	satellite: could i see that tutorial? also, what version of ubuntu?	01:10
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kilrae	my computer is being less than reliable	01:11
HugoBoss	Sandralalk mo :*	01:11
Sandralalk	HugoBoss: =8§:/	01:11
satellite	Jaunty	01:11
satellite	raylu: Jaunty	01:11
HugoBoss	Sandralalk :D qnta gente	01:12
bastidrazor	satellite, jaunty had firefox-3.0 by default	01:12
bishop	joining	01:12
Sandralalk	HugoBoss: =8§:/	01:12
HugoBoss	°°	01:12
HugoBoss	mo vamo abrir um canal aqui?	01:12
Sandralalk	naUMMMMM	01:12
ocarinahuff	quit	01:12
HugoBoss	perke?	01:12
raylu	!br \| HugoBoss	01:12
ubottu	HugoBoss: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.	01:12
bsmith_	Can anyone help me?	01:12
HugoBoss	sry raygn	01:13
HugoBoss	raylu	01:13
derspankster	bsmith_: impossible to tell	01:13
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mdg	AndorinKato: having any luck?	01:13
bsmith_	derspankster: setting up dyndns.org without a router?	01:13
AndorinKato	mdg: Sorta. I'll let you know either way when we're finished	01:14
kad_	heys brothers! anyone has used tripwire ! thx	01:14
derspankster	bsmith_: can't help there	01:14
bsmith_	Anyone on here who can help with dyndns.org setup without a router?	01:14
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Hilikus	the remix edition of ubuntu comes with xfe, kde or gnome??	01:16
raylu	!remix	01:16
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about remix	01:16
ryanprior	Hilikus: none of the above. What it comes with is closes to Gnome.	01:16
raylu	=\	01:16
rski	!unr	01:16
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about unr	01:16
bishop	leaving	01:16
rski	bleh	01:16
raylu	Hilikus: the netbook remix?	01:16
derspankster	bsmith_: you just want to use an other dns?	01:17
marca311	!moo	01:17
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about moo	01:17
Hilikus	raylu yes	01:17
raylu	derspankster: i believe he wants a dns entry pointing to him	01:17
raylu	Hilikus: what ryanprior said :P	01:17
Hilikus	ryanprior i see, is it lighter than stock ubuntu then i guess	01:17
derspankster	raylu" Oh, OK.	01:17
satellite	raylu: http://tinyurl.com/lupp4d	01:17
ryanprior	Hilikus: no, heavier by a significant bit actually.	01:17
bsmith_	derspankster: I want to use my linux box as a server.	01:18
ryanprior	Hilikus: the main difference is that it's optimized to take advantage of every available bit of screen space.	01:18
satellite	I do not like the NBR	01:19
raylu	satellite: apt-get -s purge libstdc++5	01:19
ryanprior	satellite: Please suggest improvements by writing Launchpad blueprints, filing bugs, and participating in the Ubuntu Brainstorm.	01:19
raylu	bsmith_: i use no-ip.com for this purpose	01:19
bsmith_	raylu: are you working without a router?	01:20
Hilikus	ryanprio really?? so xuvbuntu would be better or remix will run well in terms of performance in a netbook?	01:20
raylu	bsmith_: no, but the configuration isn't in my router anyway	01:20
raylu	Hilikus: it	01:20
raylu	whoops.	01:20
raylu	Hilikus: it's more suitable for small screens	01:20
bsmith_	raylu: I set up an account with dyndns.org. Does no-ip.com cost money?	01:20
ryanprior	Hilikus: I think that Xubuntu would be the easiest on your memory and processor; but xubuntu, kubuntu, and ubuntu assume that you have a full-sized screen, which makes the experience less enjoyable.	01:21
raylu	bsmith_: if you want an "enhanced domain." otherwise, no	01:21
myxo	anyone know a site that could help me get Ubuntu installed on a Toshiba Satellite 8355, after it reads the disc the screen just stays black indefinitely after "Install" is selected	01:21
raylu	!alternate \| myxo	01:21
ubottu	myxo: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the link on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal	01:21
satellite	!livecd	01:21
ubottu	The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.	01:21
satellite	!liveusb	01:21
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about liveusb	01:21
bsmith_	raylu: Will this conflict with dyndns.org?	01:21
raylu	bsmith_: no, as long as you tell others to use your no-ip subdomain	01:22
raylu	bsmith_: multiple dns entries can point to the same ip	01:22
myxo	raylu thanks! is the % near to 100 to say it works on "all" pcs lol?	01:22
Hilikus	ryanprior so even if it would be lighter to run xubuntu, remix still runs well + with good screen usage?	01:22
ryanprior	bsmith_: dyndns and no-ip do pretty much the same thing.	01:22
raylu	myxo: ubuntu isn't even near 100% pc support	01:22
bsmith_	ryanprior: Ok so setting up no-ip would result in not being able to view my site either.	01:23
myxo	raylu rofl	01:23
ryanprior	bsmith_: the Netbook Remix works well on the netbooks I've tried.	01:23
myxo	raylu would a diff distrobution be more wide ranging? anything similar?	01:23
raylu	myxo: ubuntu intentionally only spports i386 and amd64 to reduce the workload	01:23
ryanprior	bsmith_: That's not what I mean. no-ip would point to your website, and dyndns would also point to your website.	01:23
raylu	myxo: but you didn't really ask the right question	01:23
ryanprior	Hilikus: the Netbook Remix works well on the netbooks I've tried.	01:24
ryanprior	bsmith_: sorry about the netbook comment, got the name wrong. =D	01:24
raylu	myxo: i'd just try the alternate cd for now	01:24
Raydiation	im always having problems with the audio in gtk-recordmydesktop	01:24
ryanprior	We're introducing ARM support, IIRC.	01:24
Raydiation	does someone know how to fix this?	01:25
raylu	ryanprior: o.0, really?	01:25
bsmith_	ryanprior: Thats fine. I can't even connect to the ip address yet alone the website.	01:25
Hilikus	ok a different questions. is it possible to have a conditional /etc/hosts based on which network you are in? if im in my home network i cant connect my server using the external ip, so i have problems with mount, bookmarks, etc. i need something that when detects im inmy network maps a name to a local ip and otherwise map the same name to the external ip	01:25
Hilikus	ryan thank you	01:25
myxo	raylu ah ok, i dont seem to see it on the download screen, still looking =p	01:25
Raydiation	it hangs/gets faster a lot	01:25
ryanprior	raylu: yes, announced in November 2008	01:25
ryanprior	raylu: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/arm-linux	01:25
satellite	How do I hook my AC unit to my UBUNTU	01:26
ryanprior	Hilikus: enjoy :-)	01:26
rmattb	can anyone point me to a doc on installing the python2.4 (not 2.5) profiler in ubuntu? thanks!	01:26
ryanprior	satellite: Ubuntu does not have a functioning air conditioner driver yet.	01:26
bishop	joining	01:27
isotherm	hey, does someone have a 9.04 x86 livecd handy?	01:27
myxo	raylu amd64 version is for any 64 bit system right?	01:27
ryanprior	isotherm: yeah, I've got one. Here you go.	01:27
Hilikus	anyone?	01:27
* ryanprior hands the CD to isotherm.		01:27
raylu	myxo: any 64-bit system that you're likely to encounter, yess	01:27
myxo	raylu mk, wasnt sure because it had amd, what does amd mean in that case?	01:28
isotherm	i'm missing the files in /.disk (very small text files), i'm wondering if someone can provide them	01:28
raylu	myxo: that amd likes seeing their brand name on the architecture name	01:28
myxo	raylu oh lol	01:28
satellite	No fridgidaire drivers?	01:28
bishop	leaving..bbak	01:28
satellite	:P later	01:28
RequinB4	hey i'm getting a new box tomorrow and wondering if there is any reason i shouldn't install the 64bit version	01:29
Hilikus	contional /etc/hosts anyone	01:29
Hilikus	conditional*	01:29
jv2	hi	01:29
raylu	RequinB4: a few programs might have compatibility issues. how much RAM do you have and what do you intend to use your machine for?	01:29
CarlFK1	RequinB4: 64 has been working great for me for over 8 months	01:29
ryanprior	RequinB4: flash for Ubuntu 64-bit sucks. Apart from that, no reason.	01:29
RequinB4	raylu - 4GB, nothing particularly special just general use	01:30
jv2	i deleted nm-applet and I can't start it now..running latest	01:30
jv2	koala	01:30
RequinB4	ryanprior - that's what i was afraid of	01:30
CarlFK1	ryanprior: my flash sucks less than when I was on 32	01:30
jv2	bad mistake	01:30
raylu	RequinB4: i'd go with 64-bit, then	01:30
RequinB4	cool	01:30
RequinB4	thx	01:30
ryanprior	CarlFK1: amen to that, Flash sucks	01:30
RequinB4	i guess if flash doesn't work i can always reinstall	01:30
ryanprior	RequinB4: you can also just install 32-bit Flash	01:30
RequinB4	is there a 64-bit gnash or swfdec?	01:31
CarlFK1	I just installed FF3.5, hoping to make a 20 byte html page that lets me play a .ogv stream from an icecast server	01:31
ryanprior	RequinB4: you betcha, 64-bit Gnash runs great	01:31
jv2	if i do iwconfig ra0 essid network_name it does not stick	01:31
RequinB4	that works too, thx	01:31
raylu	ryanprior: full-screen support?	01:31
CarlFK1	if FF will stream .ogv ... I am going to join the crusade	01:31
raylu	jv2: sudo. also, iwconfig ra0 commit	01:32
Amaeth	Hi, im with a problem with my apt-get; can someone helpme?	01:32
raylu	Amaeth: only if you're more specific	01:32
ryanprior	raylu: The virtual machine has full-screen support, don't know whether it's implemented in ActionScript yet or not.	01:32
LordDragon	hey all	01:32
raylu	ryanprior: the virtual machine?	01:32
ryanprior	I think that we should support "apt-get halp"	01:32
jv2	Raylu: will try commit..did also with sudo	01:32
isotherm	hmm can anyone provide me the files in /.disk or tell me where to find them online?	01:32
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isotherm	google seach didn't show anything	01:32
LordDragon	i just installed 9.04 on my mac mini. it installed ok, but whenever i go to "power management" it locks up ubuntu. the mouse still moves but everything is frozen. any ideas whats wrong ?	01:32
ryanprior	raylu: Gnash is a general virtual runtime engine, with a Flash compatibility layer.	01:33
raylu	isotherm: there shouldn't be anything in .disk. what filesystem and why?	01:33
isotherm	these files in /.disk: base_installable casper-uuid-generic cd_type info release_notes_url	01:33
Hodapp	ryanprior: what sort of other stuff can Gnash do?	01:33
isotherm	from the lvecd	01:33
mdg	LordDragon: are mac mini ppc?	01:33
LordDragon	mdg, no its an intel mac mini	01:33
isotherm	i know that base_installable is empty, but the others are small text files	01:33
ryanprior	Hodapp: At its core, it's a general media-display platform that can theoretically support any sort of programming interface.	01:33
kad_	heys brothers! anyone has used tripwire ! thx	01:34
isotherm	i have a live usb missing those files, so it will not boot	01:34
Hodapp	ryanprior: interesting.	01:34
raylu	isotherm: i think that's only for the squashfs on the livecd. they shouldn't be there on an installed system	01:34
Amaeth	oks; i cnt install upgrade check remove autoremove or force any aplication in apt-get: its response	01:34
Amaeth	http://pastebin.com/d4cda9935	01:34
isotherm	ubuntu not installed yet	01:34
ryanprior	Hodapp: its compliment is Cygnal, a general media-distribution server with Flash Media Server compatibility	01:34
mdg	Amaeth: did you apt-get update first?	01:35
jv2	raylu: command was nm-applet --sm-disable from autostart	01:35
raylu	jv2: huh?	01:35
Amaeth	yes i did	01:35
raylu	Amaeth: could you show us your /etc/apt/sources.list and tell us if there are any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?	01:36
myk_robinson	Flannel: got PHP problems.. PHP is enabled, but not working for the /var/www/Church directory. Firefox asks where to save the file	01:36
jv2	the command written in the autostart applications was nm-applet --sm-disable	01:36
xeer	Fresh install of 9.04, added some dev packages so that I could compile MPD. Also, compiled lastest version of glib. Now 90% of programs are complaining about libgio-2.0.so.0 having an incorrect symbol. This is causing everything to fail.. where could I find the old release of this library?	01:36
raylu	jv2: ...ok?	01:36
myk_robinson	Flannel: I placed a PHP info test file in /var/www and it returns the PHP Version 5.2.6 information	01:36
Amaeth	umm i add the ppa of smc before it crash	01:36
ryanprior	Right now I'm running 9.04, which is essential as a development platform. However, my graphics card is better support in 8.04. If I install 8.04 on another partition and let it use my current home directory, will it wreak havoc?	01:36
raylu	Amaeth: i get the feeling that that is causing problems. perhaps you should comment it out	01:37
jv2	so i don't understand why it does not on the terminal ..	01:37
isotherm	is there somewhere i can browse the files on a livced?	01:37
jv2	on jaunty nm-applet was enough to have the applet again	01:37
mdg	isotherm: what version ubuntu?	01:37
ryanprior	isotherm: yes, you can mount -o loop theimage.iso	01:37
raylu	ryanprior: most likely, no. but different versions of some apps might not like their configuration files. evolution and pidign come to mind, especially	01:37
isotherm	i don't have the ISO anymore, this is the problem	01:37
legend2440	isotherm: ok i'm looking at those file now what do you want?	01:37
ryanprior	raylu: I use webmail and Empathy. Am I in the clear?	01:38
raylu	ryanprior: hopefully :P	01:38
Amaeth	raylu: i did that but i still have the same problem	01:38
Amaeth	http://pastebin.com/d4cda9935	01:38
Amaeth	and i cnt uninstall any aplicacition to fix this	01:38
ryanprior	hehe	01:38
raylu	ryanprior: i think it'd be better to run 8.04 and just put 9.04 in a VM	01:38
caffeinated	hello all	01:38
raylu	Amaeth: update before running upgrade, after removing the PPA	01:39
Amaeth	umm oks	01:39
ryanprior	raylu: I'd do that if this weren't my memory-anemic laptop with an old Celeron processor with no virtualization support.	01:39
jv2	in the terminal nm-applet --sm-disable returns ** (nm-applet:5269): DEBUG: applet_common_device_state_changed	01:39
raylu	ryanprior: oh. you could consider installing the drivers for 9.04 yourself, then	01:39
jv2	I will try to remove all applets and install them again	01:40
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Tetracomm	Hello.	01:40
xFire_	Ubuntu isn't letting me transfer files. It says I need permission...can anyone help?	01:41
A\|X	yes	01:41
raylu	!permissions \| xFire_	01:41
ubottu	xFire_: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions	01:41
A\|X	where're you trying to transefer from . to?	01:41
Tetracomm	How do I change my Ubuntu 24 hour time to 12 hour time?	01:41
jv2	Tetracomm: on the clock properties ;)	01:41
Amaeth	raylu: dnt works	01:41
jv2	preferences .>right click	01:41
xFire_	A \| X i'm moveing from ubuntu to ubuntu server ed. (home -> /var/www)	01:41
Tetracomm	jv2: Right click the clock and click adjust date and time? Because I don't see a way to change it to 12 hour time there.	01:42
raylu	Tetracomm: preferences	01:42
xFire_	I'm changing all the permissions, but when i close it it still doesnt work, and the permissions reset	01:42
jv2	yes, preferences	01:42
jv2	later..loggin out	01:42
raylu	xFire_: let's back up a bit. how are you transferring the files?	01:43
epaphus	Hi, where can I edit the server that ubuntu gets its udpates from?	01:43
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epaphus	automatic updates that is	01:43
raylu	Amaeth: aptitude why libcegui-mk2-1	01:43
fsckboy	depaphus, under software sources.	01:43
xFire_	raylu: I was trying to do it with filezilla, but it wasn't working. same problem. so i wen't into my ubunut install, and am tryign with sftp in a GUI	01:43
A\|X	xFire_, aptitude moo	01:43
raylu	xFire_: /var/www isn't user-writable, by default	01:44
Amaeth	smc requires..... any way solve:	01:44
Amaeth	apt-get remove libcegui-mk2-dev libcegui-mk2-1 smc smc-data	01:44
xFire_	raylu: ahh then how do i get my webcontent online??	01:44
dethray	Got ubuntu running just how I want it on my laptop... now what do I do? :P	01:44
Tetracomm	raylu: I don't see that. This is 8.10, btw.	01:44
Amaeth	BB	01:44
raylu	Amaeth: is the version from smc in the default repositories acceptable? if so, apt-get remove libcegui-mk2-1	01:44
fsckboy	dethray: Install VirtualBox and install XP through that.	01:45
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mdg	fsckboy: LOL	01:45
xeer	Fresh install of 9.04, added some dev packages so that I could compile MPD. Also, compiled lastest version of glib. Now 90% of programs are complaining about libgio-2.0.so.0 having an incorrect symbol. This is causing everything to fail.. where could I find the old release of this library?	01:45
raylu	Tetracomm: you don't see preferences when you right-click on the clock?	01:45
dethray	Hmm, I'm already using wine for office... :D	01:45
kbp	Hello. I'd like to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, could anyone give me the link to download the "Alternate installation CD"? Actually, is the "Alternate installation CD" different or the same to the full installation CD?	01:45
fsckboy	dethray: Wine is terrible. You could still execute viruses in wine. Lmao.	01:45
mdg	Tetracomm: Right click clock > Preferences	01:46
Tetracomm	Oops, this is embarrassing.	01:46
raylu	xeer: dpkg -S libgio-2.0	01:46
Tetracomm	Fixed.	01:46
Flannel	kbp: The alternate CD is different than the Desktop CD, yes. But they both install the same system (they just go about it differently). Alternate has no LiveCD portion, but gives more options (and can be used to upgrade)	01:46
fsckboy	kdpThre are more choices in alt disc.	01:46
dethray	Hmm, vitrualbox, eh, what about vmware?	01:46
Flannel	kbp: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ You can find the alternate iso there, depending on your arch	01:46
Tetracomm	Thank you. mdg and raylu. :) hands you cookies	01:46
* raylu nom nom nom		01:47
* mdg ummm!		01:47
^Phantom^	Failed to tune to transponder at 57000000	01:47
^Phantom^	Failed to tune to transponder at 57000000	01:47
^Phantom^	Failed to tune to transponder at 63000000	01:47
^Phantom^	Failed to tune to transponder at 63000000	01:47
FloodBot2	^Phantom^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	01:47
kbp	thank you Flannel and fsckboy	01:47
raylu	dethray: vmware isn't free in the libre sense, but you can use it if you wish.	01:47
^Phantom^	i didn't mean to paste that :(	01:47
* fsckboy fsck fsck fsck his disk.		01:47
raylu	dethray, fsckboy: you can execute virii, but you don't need to worry about them harming any more than files that you can write to	01:48
xFire_	raylu: ?	01:48
raylu	xFire_: oh, sorry	01:48
Grantbow	trying to install 9.04 on an Acer Aspire One - double click wubi - I get nothing but a log. Any ideas? https://paste.ubuntu.com/205938	01:48
xeer	raylu: would dpkg would even if the NetworkManager has failed because of this library symbol error?	01:48
Wicked	!tripwire	01:48
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about tripwire	01:48
^Phantom^	ubuntu SUCKS for tv tuners :(	01:48
mdg	AndorinKato: Any luck?	01:48
fsckboy	Linux is great! Ubuntu is great too! I'm on Sidekick sshing to my machine to irssi to here. :)	01:48
raylu	xFire_: either transfer it to somewhere within your server's /home/youruser and them sudo mv it from there, or	01:48
Wicked	^Phantom^, works awesome with my pvr ;0	01:48
raylu	xFire_: give yourself permission to write to /var/www	01:49
AndorinKato	mdg: Getting there. :)	01:49
xFire_	How do i give myself perission?	01:49
mdg	yay \O/	01:49
^Phantom^	Good for you!	01:49
raylu	xFire_: 19:02:05 Flannel> myk_robinson: The easiest way to do it is to add yourself to the www-data group (sudo adduser username www-data) and then sudo chmod g+w /var/www	01:49
Tetracomm	Ubuntu is supposed to set to show me the wind speed and temperature, but it is not doing so, why?	01:49
mdg	I gotta head out. Night all /me waves goodnight	01:49
myk_robinson	raylu: Sorry, got it sorted. I just needed to address the file using localhost instead of the full path	01:49
Flannel	xFire_: And chown www-data:www-data /var/www	01:49
raylu	Tetracomm: because that widget is buggy :P	01:49
Tetracomm	Lawd.	01:50
fsckboy	!sensors \| Tetracomm	01:50
ubottu	Tetracomm: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto	01:50
raylu	myk_robinson: oh, sorry for the ping, just forwarding flannel's advice to xFire_	01:50
fsckboy	I Lol'd.	01:50
Tetracomm	No, i'm talking about the weather.	01:50
Grantbow	Is there a wubi IRC channel?	01:50
fsckboy	Tetracomm: Add weather applet in gnome-=anel.	01:51
Gnea	Grantbow: you're in it.	01:52
legend2440	Tetracomm: RIGHT CLICK TOP PANEL CHOOSE ADD TO PANEL AND CHOOSE wEATHER rEPORT THAT ONE WORKS	01:52
legend2440	sorry about caps	01:52
Flannel	Grantbow: not wubi specific on IRC. Here, or they have a wubi specific section in ubuntuforums	01:52
Tetracomm	Ok.	01:52
Grantbow	Gnea, Flannel: ok, thanks.	01:53
fsckboy	legend2440: COOL IT MAKY!	01:53
xFire_	raylu: ok, if i ever need to do this again, what do you think are the keywords i could google to tell me again	01:53
Grantbow	trying to install 9.04 on an Acer Aspire One - I double click wubi - I get nothing but a log with a traceback. Any ideas? https://paste.ubuntu.com/205938	01:54
raylu	xFire_: m... this is actually a collection of issues	01:54
xFire_	raylu: Also, i did what you told me to and it didn't work :(	01:54
millertimek1a2m3	hey i'm learning C for the first time...	01:55
millertimek1a2m3	reading c primer plus	01:55
raylu	xFire_: on the server, run "groups" and "ls -ld /var/www"	01:55
Grantbow	s	01:55
millertimek1a2m3	and i'm wanting a program as a compiler for c	01:55
steveno	Has anyone gotten a sprint Merlin S720 working on Ubuntu 8.04?	01:56
raylu	millertimek1a2m3: gcc	01:56
Grantbow	err http://paste.ubuntu.com/205938/	01:56
xFire_	raylu: ls: cannot access ld: No such file or directory	01:56
xFire_	/var/www:	01:56
xFire_	index.html	01:56
FloodBot2	xFire_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	01:56
ryanprior	Is Sourceforge unavailable to y'all? It won't load for me.	01:56
raylu	xFire_: you forgot the -	01:56
xFire_	eh brb raylu...sry	01:57
raylu	ryanprior: fine for me. http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/sourceforge.net	01:57
millertimek1a2m3	raylu: a gui for browsing C...;	01:57
millertimek1a2m3	?	01:57
raylu	millertimek1a2m3: browsing... the C libraries?	01:57
ryanprior	raylu: great website, will bookmark that one. Will you download http://downloads.sourceforge.net/lubi/lubi_7.04.04_all.deb and mirror it for me?	01:57
A\|X	halp!	01:58
raylu	ryanprior: http://raylu.no-ip.org/f	01:58
ryanprior	A\|X: halp is on teh way. What seems to be the matter, citizen?	01:59
A\|X	ryanprior, i install ubuntu server 9.04	01:59
A\|X	reboot	01:59
millertimek1a2m3	raylo: well i wanted something that would be use ful for someone reading a c primer plus book... is this it?	01:59
millertimek1a2m3	it it also like a compiler or... idk	01:59
A\|X	it comes up "giving up waiting for root partition" and gives me a initramfs shell	01:59
ryanprior	A\|X: perhaps try re-installing, unless you suspect that your hard-drive doesn't work or something.	02:00
xFire_	raylu: mkay, got it	02:00
A\|X	no	02:00
A\|X	i've reinstalle dmultiples times	02:00
hermitmode	who's who:: php developer using netbeans?	02:00
A\|X	whith this as the result	02:00
raylu	millertimek1a2m3: gcc is the compiler pretty much everyone uses	02:00
lowlycoder	how do I have ubuntu get my hostname dynamically via dhcp rather than from /etc/hostname ? (it's screwing up my email return addr)	02:00
xFire_	raylu:	02:00
xFire_	raylu:what next man	02:00
raylu	millertimek1a2m3: as far as reading the book, i don't know what you mean	02:01
MellowDude	will GTA San Andreas play in wine	02:01
ryanprior	A\|X: have you tried installing different versions, or different Linux distros?	02:01
raylu	xFire_: show me the output of those?	02:01
tntc	hey, I'm using an 802.11n card (iwlagn driver, Intel WiFi Link 5100) and I see a max bitrate of 60mbit. Why is it 60 instead of the N 130?	02:01
A\|X	centos installs no problem	02:01
millertimek1a2m3	raylu: oh ok. well i was looking at an entry called codelite	02:01
xFire_	raylu:austin adm dialout cdrom plugdev sambashare lpadmin admin	02:01
xFire_	raylu:drwxrwxr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 2009-06-27 15:53 /var/www	02:01
raylu	MellowDude: http://appdb.winehq.org	02:01
millertimek1a2m3	raylu: ok codelite is an IDE while	02:01
Flannel	xFire_: After you add yourself to the www-data group, you have to log in again	02:02
raylu	xFire_: you're not in the www-data group	02:02
MellowDude	thank raylu	02:02
millertimek1a2m3	raylu: while gcc is a compiler and stuff	02:02
xFire_	raylu: I did what you told me too though....	02:02
raylu	xFire_: what Flannel said.	02:02
hermitmode	who's who:: php developer using netbeans?	02:02
millertimek1a2m3	raylu: isn't gcc in the add/remove?	02:03
xFire_	aaaaah	02:03
xFire_	raylu \| flannel : thank you guys, its copying :)	02:03
raylu	millertimek1a2m3: i don't use that, so i have no idea. it's in the repositories, though	02:03
xFire_	raylu: You said this was a multitude of problems?	02:03
hoolz	hey guys, question	02:04
hoolz	i got the latest alpha of ubuntu	02:04
raylu	xFire_: your gui tried to change permissions on a directory that it couldn't and didn't give you meaningful output	02:04
Flannel	hoolz: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks	02:04
raylu	xFire_: and the whole file permissions thing	02:04
hoolz	how i backup my ubuntu and make a .iso?	02:04
hoolz	after i installed ubuntu ibex can i create a iso for a "clean install" or no?	02:05
hoolz	like for recorymode	02:05
millertimek1a2m3	oh ok...	02:05
xFire_	raylu: ok, so i had to set file perimissions to my user to edit /var/www and add myself to a list?	02:05
mezquitale	I am trying to configure SSH using rsa encrypted key, does anyone know if I need to set "RhostsRSAuthentication" to "yes"?????	02:05
raylu	xFire_: um... sure. actually, you added a group to your list of groups, but yes	02:05
millertimek1a2m3	raylu: the book was talking about C not having it's own editor. nm. stupid of me. editor/compiler. small read mistake but stilll dumb	02:05
MellowDude	they say it work i have to try it	02:05
xFire_	raylu: group?	02:06
raylu	mezquitale: the default sshd_config allows authentication with rsa keys, so no	02:06
ryanprior	raylu: thanks for the mirror	02:06
raylu	xFire_: yes. "id" may shed some light	02:06
ryanprior	dunno what's up with my connection to sourceforge	02:06
raylu	ryanprior: np	02:06
xFire_	raylu: i'm not familiar with termianl comands past sudo apt-get	02:06
raylu	xFire_: just run "id" by itself	02:07
mezquitale	raylu, OK thanks, let me give it a try then	02:07
legend2440	hoolz: http://maketecheasier.com/backup-ubuntu-with-remastersys/2008/12/22	02:07
xFire_	raylu: ok....i'll just study it later. thanks a bunch	02:08
xFire_	bye room	02:08
Phrogz	Just installed ubuntu server; learning to admin it. When I login and it tells me "18 packages can be updated. 1 update is a security update." What are the apt commands to list and/or install those?	02:10
kad_	tripwire --check \| /usr/bin/mail root -s "Tripwire Check" 2>&1 (what 2>&1 refer to ) Thx =)	02:11
ryu	when i upgrade ext3 to ext4 it is not aus good as a reinstall? is that true?	02:11
coleys	Phrogz: sudo apt-get upgrade	02:11
coleys	ryu: Correct.	02:11
Phrogz	coleys - thank you.	02:11
quakelive	Does ubuntu work with an Audigy 2 Value?	02:11
rski	quakelive: yes	02:11
coleys	quakelive: Should...	02:11
ryu	ColdFyre, but only since the data gets rewriten, oder are there other limitations, too?	02:11
quakelive	It didn't work the last time I installed it	02:12
ryu	argh, tab fail, sorry :(	02:12
coleys	quakelive: Might require a little tinkering, but you can easily find fix's on google.	02:12
hermitmode	::Help Problem with LAN Connection-- using ASUS board-- ubuntu 64	02:12
coleys	hermitmode: Wireless or Non	02:12
billybigrigger	what is the defacto ipod app for syncing up music and such in jaunty/karmic??? can anyone give me some input?	02:13
coleys	billybigrigger: gtkpod	02:13
billybigrigger	thanks eh	02:13
hermitmode	wired	02:13
coleys	hermitmode: Whats the problem? Be straight forward as possible.	02:13
hermitmode	:: I cant connect to my wired network using 64bit	02:15
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hermitmode	32bit works fine... It is possible the ubuntu 64bit don't support my onboard eth...	02:15
coleys	hermitmode: I don't know what your problem is, you havn't stated it.	02:16
raylu	Phrogz, coleys: apt-get upgrade is an alias for safe-upgrade	02:16
coleys	hermitmode: oh.. =( umm..	02:16
raylu	Phrogz, coleys: i lied, ignore me	02:16
quakelive	How do I get an Audigy 2 Value working with Ubuntu 9.04?	02:16
Phrogz	heh, ok	02:16
coleys	=O	02:16
quakelive	anyone know?	02:16
coleys	quakelive: Give google a search.	02:16
Phrogz	apt-get -u upgrade is what I wanted :)	02:16
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coleys	quakelive: Do this for me: "lspci \| grep -i audio"	02:17
raylu	Phrogz: if you install package A and it pulls in B and C as dependencies, then install D which depends on C, what do you expect to happen after removing A?	02:18
quakelive	I'm in slackware at the moment	02:18
quakelive	but i'll try it	02:18
amseidler	When I try to play my DVD, it says "Cannot read from resource". How can I fix this? It's a brand new DVD, so I know it works.	02:18
raylu	!dvd \| amseidler	02:18
ubottu	amseidler: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	02:18
usr13_	quakelive: You slacker you!	02:19
Phrogz	raylu - ideally I expect to be asked if B should be removed.	02:19
quakelive	05:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value	02:19
raylu	Phrogz: you should consider using aptitude over apt-get, then	02:19
usr13_	Phrogz: You probably were asked.	02:19
Phrogz	raylu: (Is this a quiz because I'm an obvious n00b? I don't care about that situation personally.)	02:19
Phrogz	usr13_/raylu - are you confusing me with someone else?	02:20
coleys	Phrogz: You can install it seperately, afterwords. But it will get removed if nothing is using it. And I believe that is the most ideal situation, otherwise you'd be overflowing with stuff you didn't have a need for anymore. =o	02:20
usr13_	raylu: Oh, aptitude asks and apt-get does not?	02:20
Phrogz	coleys - that's a fine situation, too.	02:20
billybigrigger	coleys::: anything besides gtkpod i can use?	02:20
raylu	usr13_: i don't think apt-get tracks whether or not packages are "automatically" installed	02:20
coleys	Phrogz: Uhh.. We don't quiz people. We're community helping community. =P	02:21
usr13_	Phrogz: Not sure really...	02:21
Phrogz	coleys - :) Just wondering why raylu was asking me about uninstalling, since that was unrelated (basically) to my original question.	02:21
coleys	billybigrigger: Gtkpod would be your best option, you can also try rythmbox	02:21
usr13_	raylu: I think it usually tells you that other applications will also be un-installed, or something to that effect. (Promay not have noticed.)	02:22
coleys	Correct me if I spelled rythm incorrectly =P	02:22
usr13_	raylu: I think it usually tells you that other applications will also be un-installed, or something to that effect. ( Phrogz may not have noticed.)	02:22
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raylu	!ipod \| billybigrigger	02:22
ubottu	billybigrigger: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod	02:22
coleys	Perfect =P	02:23
Caleb__	Will virtualising ubuntu murder my computer?	02:23
Phrogz	usr13_: not that I care, but I haven't uninstalled anything, and wasn't wondering about uninstalling anything :)	02:23
RequinB4	Caleb__: depends on your box	02:23
coleys	Caleb__: come again...?	02:23
R_YoYo_R	Caleb__, why would it? You mean running it in vmware or something?	02:23
amseidler	What kind of effect would ejecting a DVD while it's playing have?	02:23
Caleb__	Yes vmware	02:23
raylu	usr13_, Phrogz: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude	02:23
RequinB4	caleb - it depends on your computer's recources really	02:23
R_YoYo_R	Caleb__, I have done it plenty of times .... just like running any other OS in vmware	02:24
usr13_	Phrogz: Nevermind	02:24
Caleb__	I have 4gb Ram and like 300gb hdd	02:24
R_YoYo_R	Caleb__, remember that you can allocate resources	02:24
coleys	amseidler: It will stop playing =P?	02:24
RequinB4	processer?	02:24
Phrogz	usr13_: Never will! :)	02:24
Caleb__	Yes i no lol	02:24
RequinB4	caleb - give ubuntu at least 1gb ram it'll be fine	02:24
amseidler	coleys: I know that. I mean will it have like a negative effect?	02:24
raylu	usr13_, Phrogz: so, from what i can tell, apt-get will remove unused depedencies but not unused depdencies of unused depdencies	02:24
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Caleb__	Proccessor is AMD	02:24
coleys	amseidler: Lol... Ubuntu isn't ebil.	02:24
usr13_	Phrogz: raylu is correct, aptitude is a bit more sophisticated / feature rich than apt-get	02:25
RequinB4	caleb - my freind boots his in 12 seconds with 1gb ram and a core 2 duo 2.66ghz	02:25
amseidler	coleys: lol, ok	02:25
Caleb__	k	02:25
coleys	amseidler: Anything windows can do, ubuntu does better =) (8)	02:25
Mrpeepers310	hey can anyone login to yahoo i.m. using pidgin?	02:25
mobi-sheep	!yahoo \| Mr	02:25
ubottu	Mr: At the moment there are many pidgin users experiencing problems connecting to Yahoo IM, you can try changing your paging server to cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com and see if that helps.	02:25
mobi-sheep	Meh.	02:25
amseidler	coleys: Haha.	02:25
hermitmode	Mrpeepers310: update your pidgin	02:25
coleys	Kopete ftw =D	02:26
amseidler	I get this error: http://cpcheating.com/screenies/zNI6zRG8W9AcBJzgugLBUKbvzZ2UiJia.png when trying to play a DVD	02:26
Mrpeepers310	coleys: kopete doesn't work either	02:26
hermitmode	coleys: ru KDE user?	02:26
coleys	hermitmode: Yeah. I use Arch Linux with KDEmod.	02:26
mobi-sheep	!dvd \| amseidler	02:26
ubottu	amseidler: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	02:26
amseidler	mobi-sheep: Just tried that, didn't work	02:27
hermitmode	coleys: ah ic...	02:27
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Caleb__	Is it possible to install ubuntu into the virtual hard drive?	02:27
coleys	Caleb__: Yes.	02:27
Caleb__	Fully?	02:27
coleys	Caleb__: Load the Iso as a cd rom	02:27
usr13_	Caleb__: virtual hard drive?	02:27
coleys	Caleb__: Yes.	02:27
coleys	Yes =o	02:27
Caleb__	OH YEA!!	02:27
Caleb__	Awesome	02:27
coleys	then after it loads the iso, you can choose to install to the "virtual harddrive"	02:28
Caleb__	Ima happy dude XD	02:28
Caleb__	Ok	02:28
coleys	Screw virtuallll go realll =D	02:28
aquachica	How fast should your computer be to run Ubuntu in VMware or Qemu?	02:28
Caleb__	Yes after it like loads up the splashscreen	02:28
coleys	aquachica: Depends on your RAM.	02:28
earthmeLon	When you login using SSH, you see user@foo$. What's this foo and how do I change mine?	02:29
Caleb__	Yea	02:29
coleys	Caleb__: Well it will load the "Live System"	02:29
raylu	aquachica: if you have the vmx flag in /proc/cpuinfo, your processor will definitely be fine	02:29
aquachica	I have a 1.99 GB RAM and a P4 2.8 GHz processor.	02:29
coleys	Caleb__: Then you can click the Install on the Live Desktop to install it to the virutal harddisk\	02:29
usr13_	coleys: I guess no one is going to tell me what a "virtual harddrive" is. :(	02:29
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Caleb__	Yea i booted into that ages ago lolz	02:29
coleys	usr13_: virtual hardrive is a harddrive which is utilized by a program which emulates operating systems.	02:29
Caleb__	Its a file on your c drive	02:29
coleys	!vmware	02:29
ubottu	VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware	02:29
Caleb__	What he said	02:30
Mrpeepers310	!pidgin	02:30
ubottu	The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete	02:30
aquachica	I use QEmu for DSL.	02:30
usr13_	coleys: Oh.. running on RAM (Live CD), ok yea, I get it..	02:30
Caleb__	!nero	02:30
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about nero	02:30
hermitmode	vmwareserver 2 works fine	02:30
bsmith_	I've follwed directions at HOWTO contro your home PC from your office (terminal, putty, ddclient & sshd) on ubuntu forums. Can someone help me with firestarter	02:30
brachiolo	hi guys	02:30
kvas	доброй всем ночи	02:30
aquachica	Is there a tutorial on how to run Ubuntu in QEmu?	02:30
coleys	usr13_: Well... difference is... it runs inside a program instead of running on your desktop. It takes more ram, because windows or whatevver is running aswell.	02:30
arand	!ru kvas	02:30
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ru kvas	02:30
kvas	sorry	02:31
coleys	!ru	02:31
ubottu	Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke	02:31
raylu	usr13_: no, that's more like a tmpfs	02:31
hermitmode	:: Pidgin 2.5.5 can't connect to yahoo ::Solution update to 2.5.7	02:31
raylu	usr13_: virtual (hard) drives are generally files your virtualization software uses to store persistent data and serves to your guest os as a hard drive	02:32
bishop	joining	02:32
raylu	aquachica: what will your host OS be?	02:33
coleys	(He wants to do ubuntu)	02:33
jwfoxjr	what is the recommended way of backing up a system? I've got a 500gb usb drive - I only need to backup data?	02:33
raylu	coleys: he wants ubuntu to be his guest OS, i thought	02:33
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bsmith_	anyone?	02:33
raylu	!backup \| jwfoxjr	02:33
ubottu	jwfoxjr: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning	02:33
jv1	installed wicd and network works fine now	02:33
jv1	BUt...	02:33
aquachica	I am using Win XP Pro.	02:33
jv1	keyboard settings are all messed up	02:33
jv1	changing the network layout in system>preferences does not work	02:34
aquachica	I would like to use Ubuntu on that particular computer and be able to save to a flash disk.	02:34
coleys	jv1: ehh.. whats your problem?	02:34
linuxguy2009	jwfoxjr - check PM?	02:35
coleys	jwfoxjr: And I would recommend just having a seperate /home partition =)	02:35
jv1	coleys: keyboard settings got messed u	02:35
raylu	aquachica: it's not that complicated. just create a virtual disk on your flash drive, boot qemu with that drive and an iso of ubuntu, and install	02:35
jv1	messed up settings > keyboard does not keep us settings	02:35
coleys	jv1: Wicd would have nothing to do with that... I believe you can change settings with... System > Keyboard or something.	02:35
jv1	US	02:35
jv1	well, yes..it should	02:36
jv1	but does not work	02:36
aquachica	Great. ^_^ I will try that out. It would be nice to finally have Ubuntu at work.	02:36
jv1	do you know the terminal command torun settings as during installation?	02:36
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raylu	aquachica: you could just run an ubuntu server at home and connect to it remotely from work	02:37
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coleys	Ssh ftw. =)	02:37
jv1	sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ?	02:37
jv1	need to email myself this command because I can'r use the KB ..	02:38
salam	salam	02:38
sambagirl	is there a michael jackson channel?	02:38
jwfoxjr	coleys: what do you think of creating a git clone of the /home?	02:38
Helen_McCall	can someone please instruct me on how to change my keychain password	02:38
raylu	jwfoxjr: massive overkill	02:38
sombra	hola	02:39
salam	i know mikael jackson	02:39
raylu	jwfoxjr: do you want many backups from multiple previous dates of your /home or just one?	02:39
sambagirl	get a mac and run elive :)	02:39
coleys	Helen_McCall: sudo rm -rf ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring	02:39
salam	now	02:39
jwfoxjr	raylu: no - just periodic backups - prolly weekly - had too many issues with this laptop	02:40
salam	what do you say	02:40
raylu	jwfoxjr: so... just one?	02:40
Helen_McCall	coleys: doesn't that remove the entire keychain meaning I would have to input all my passwords again>	02:40
coleys	Helen_McCall: No.	02:40
raylu	coleys: no need for sudo	02:41
jwfoxjr	raylu: probably keep a half dozen or so	02:41
salam	i don't speak english	02:41
bazhang	!ot > salam	02:41
ubottu	salam, please see my private message	02:41
coleys	raylu: Ahh guess not =)	02:41
bazhang	salam, what language	02:41
jv1	salam for you too :)	02:41
salam	je vous jure je ne comprends pas anglais	02:41
raylu	!fr \| salam	02:41
ubottu	salam: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr	02:41
bazhang	salam, /join #ubuntu-fr	02:42
salam	exit	02:42
jv1	au revoir	02:42
coleys	Salut	02:42
bsmith_	Can anyone help me/	02:42
coleys	!ask \| bsmith_	02:43
ubottu	bsmith_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	02:43
jv1	bsmith_: is it serious ? :)	02:43
raylu	jwfoxjr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite probably suits your needs best	02:43
bsmith_	I've follwed directions at HOWTO contro your home PC from your office (terminal, putty, ddclient & sshd) on ubuntu forums. Can someone help me with firestarter	02:43
jwfoxjr	raylu: thanks	02:43
coleys	bsmith_: uhh... Firestarter isn't being developed anymore is it?	02:44
raylu	!firestarter	02:44
ubottu	Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist	02:44
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, did you make sure to forward the port on your router?	02:44
bsmith_	coleys: I am unaware of that, I just downloaded it recently.	02:44
bsmith_	R_YoYo_R: I am routerless	02:44
coleys	bsmith_: I could be wrong, but you don't really need firestarter. Just complicates things unecessarily.	02:44
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, ahh .... I just use the built in remote desktop app	02:45
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, gnome or kde?	02:45
zealiod	what account do cron jobs run under... the user account - or is there a cron system account?	02:45
coleys	bsmith_: And... are you having truoble getting ssh to work?	02:45
bsmith_	R_YoYo_R: sorry i'm ubuntu stupid. I'm running ubunut 9.04 non server edition.	02:45
bsmith_	coleys: yes	02:46
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, and you want to make sure you have a static IP ....	02:46
coleys	bsmith_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server	02:46
raylu	zealiod: each user can have his own crontab	02:46
jv1	man! need to reinstall because reconfguring the keyboard settings did not work	02:46
R_YoYo_R	then you can use VNC viewer.... just pop in your IP and you should be golden	02:46
raylu	zealiod: that's what crontab's -u flag is for :D	02:46
bsmith_	R_YoYo_R: I'm avoiding that using dyndns.org to update back to xxx.homelinux.org.	02:46
coleys	bsmith_: ssh -l coleys(Username) 192.168.2.18(local IP)	02:46
zealiod	raylu: sure i understand that - but when the cron jobs are run - are they run as the user	02:46
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, that works too.	02:47
jv1	and it's faster to install than to finding out what's wrong :)	02:47
jv1	at least for me	02:47
raylu	zealiod: they're run under whover's crontab they are under	02:47
coleys	bsmith_: So in this format: ssh -l username Localip(or internetip)	02:47
zealiod	raylu: with there permission	02:47
zealiod	raylu: then that is mighty weird	02:47
raylu	zealiod: why?	02:47
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, is port 5900 open?	02:47
salam	i don't speak french	02:47
coleys	R_YoYo_R: ssh uses 22.	02:47
MellowDude	whats the off topic room name	02:48
salam	howw nowww	02:48
jv1	salam: ahahah	02:48
cabrey	!ot	02:48
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	02:48
jv1	what language do you speak? portuguese?	02:48
bsmith_	R_YoYo_R: How can I check that	02:48
bastidrazor	bsmith_, you don't have to use -l .. you could use ssh username@host(ip)	02:48
zealiod	raylu: if i run this pyton script its all good, but the cron job falls over and requires the sudo passed - i've added this user to the visudo to allow sudo access.... but the cron job still requires a password, which breaks the program	02:48
R_YoYo_R	coleys, bsmith_ is the point to ssh? did i miss something? I thought we were trying to do remote desktop	02:48
salam	i don' tunderstand english	02:48
RequinB4	MellowDude - #ubuntu-offtopic	02:48
coleys	R_YoYo_R: Ssh.	02:48
R_YoYo_R	well i suppose you can use ssh to remote desktop but ....	02:49
raylu	zealiod: why not just run the job as root?	02:49
jv1	salam: speak what language?	02:49
bishop	leaving	02:49
hikenboot_	hello installed the debian kernel source for a kernel using dpkg -i ..unfortunately I do not see the source directory under /usr/src! where would the install have placed it?	02:49
bsmith_	R_YoYo_R: no remote desktop, dyndns.org "server"	02:49
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zealiod	raylu: erm, well - why should i have to?	02:49
bsmith_	coley: permission denied, checking typr	02:49
raylu	hikenboot_: dpkg -L [package name] lists files owned by a pakcage	02:49
hikenboot_	thanks raylu	02:50
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, so go into system\preferences\remote desktop	02:50
raylu	zealiod: you want the job to do something that requires root permissions... sudo seems like a round-about way of doing it	02:50
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, enable that	02:50
coleys	bsmith_: Do both computers have... openssh-server installed on them?	02:50
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, then on the windows machine use a vncviewer	02:50
coleys	bsmith_: And are both connected to the internet/lan	02:50
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, and go to whatever.homelinux.org:5900	02:50
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, and assuming port 5900 is open you should be all set	02:51
zealiod	raylu: sure, but i only want the script to have access to certain programs, so i can specify those programs in the visudo entry	02:51
zealiod	raylu: makes it a bit tighter - works ok for www user	02:51
raylu	zealiod: show me your sudoers then, i guess	02:51
legend2440	jv1: whats wrong. keyboard settings keep changing from US to something else?	02:52
zealiod	TheUser ALL= NOPASSWD: /home/SerenNet/, /sbin/iptables	02:52
jv1	legend2440: somehow i screwed up my keyboard settings	02:52
zealiod	raylu: thats the entry	02:52
bsmith_	coleys: no I couldn't even intall openssh-server	02:52
jv1	and I can't get them to restore back to US	02:52
jv1	by systems > keyaboard	02:52
coleys	bsmith_: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install openssh-server	02:53
jv1	beyboard	02:53
jv1	shoot	02:53
coleys	bsmith_: sudo apt-get upgrate && sudo apt-get install openssh-server*	02:53
jshsu	having sound issues, using pulseaudio, aplay -l doesn't show my soundcard, alsa info here: http://bit.ly/tKL5v	02:53
coleys	dfijkdsgfd\	02:53
jv1	sometimes I type ok ;)	02:53
raylu	zealiod: either i'm misunderstanding sudoers syntax or /home/serennet/ is invalid	02:53
coleys	bsmith_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openssh-server*	02:53
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, coleys i still dont understand why we are installing openssh ... all he wants to do is be able to remote into his machine from work	02:53
jv1	or by running the configuration on the terminal	02:53
raylu	zealiod: also, try sudo -u TheUser sudo iptables -L	02:53
legend2440	jv1: can you paste the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?	02:53
legend2440	!paste	02:53
ubottu	pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic	02:53
A\|X	does ubuntu server have a GUI?	02:53
bsmith_	coleys: working now	02:54
coleys	R_YoYo_R: He said "SSH" and that is remote aswell...	02:54
bobzillion	what file is responsible for the boot selection menu on the live CD? And can it be altered to point to a USB device as a choice?	02:54
coleys	bsmith_: Perfect.	02:54
raylu	A\|X: that would be absurd	02:54
A\|X	i agree!	02:54
zealiod	raylu: try in what capacity?	02:54
zealiod	raylu: in the python script or?	02:54
raylu	zealiod: just as your current user	02:54
R_YoYo_R	coleys, right i assumed he read somewhere he needed SSH to do it. I was trying to take him down the easy route	02:54
zealiod	raylu: that works fine	02:54
bsmith_	now what?	02:54
joakimk	I'm at a hotel, using a wired internet service. In XP, Firefox takes me to the hotel's start page for the Internet access, where I can click to buy 24 hrs access. However, in Ubuntu, Firefox can't find a connection. Could I hook this up manually, somehow?	02:55
coleys	R_YoYo_R: Ahh, well I bet he would like to have remote desktop access ie VNC aswell... Ssh is only cli.	02:55
R_YoYo_R	bsmith_, can you try the suggestions i made previously?	02:55
jv1	yes, I will try..tx oh..there is no keyboard section	02:55
R_YoYo_R	coleys, my point exactly	02:55
jv1	on xonrg.conf	02:55
raylu	zealiod: and the crontab entry can be seen with "sudo crontab -u TheUser -e"?	02:55
jv1	xorg.conf	02:55
coleys	R_YoYo_R: Regardless he said he waas trying to get ssh to work, didn't mention vnc, but it would be good for him to know.	02:56
zealiod	raylu: yes	02:56
raylu	zealiod: then i have no idea	02:56
joakimk	Could it be that the hotel's connection thing (what's this called, a proxy? a gateway?) only works in XP? After buying access, I would think eth0 would provide me with access also in Linux...	02:57
tafsen	How come ubuntu don't remember the changes I do in NVIDIA settings when I restart?	02:58
coleys	joakimk: How are you connecting? Wireless or wired? And... I Would assume y	02:58
coleys	joakimk: How are you connecting? Wireless or wired? And... I Would assume it would be considered a gateway.	02:58
b0w	hellooo, to run quake3 i have to install wine?	02:58
joakimk	coleys: I'm on a wired connection	02:59
raylu	tafsen: known bug, i think	02:59
rdw200169	tafsen, b/c you have to tell the application to apply changes to your xorg.conf file	02:59
coleys	joakimk: OPen up a web browser?	02:59
coleys	joakimk: Does a hotel message get displayed?	02:59
jv1	legend2440: I appreciate you wanting to hel me but I am having problmes no to connect too so I just reinstall	02:59
tafsen	rdw200169: then I only get a error "can't create backup file"	02:59
joakimk	coleys: in Ubuntu, the "ethernet" menu (top of screen) says I'm connected to "eth0"	02:59
rdw200169	tafsen, i.e. 'Save to X Configuration File'	02:59
legend2440	jv1: ok good luck	02:59
joakimk	coleys: I've tried -- Firefox only shows the "connection error" page	02:59
rdw200169	tafsen, will it let you continue anyway?	02:59
jv1	tx	02:59
usr13_	joakimk: Ask the desk clerk. But you should be able to tell... Can't you?	03:00
joakimk	joakimk: Right now, I'm back in XP	03:00
coleys	joakimk: have you tried calling front desk to see if there is anything specific you need to do?	03:00
tafsen	rdw200169: nope	03:00
rdw200169	tafsen, you may have to run the application as root, i.e. in the terminal type "sudo nvidia-settings"	03:00
usr13_	joakimk: Are you getting any IP information at all?	03:00
joakimk	usr13_: tell? how do you mean? :)	03:00
licul	good morning	03:00
joakimk	coleys: I will call them, but I thought I'd give this a try first. I'm in Seoul, so there will be a language challenge, too ;)	03:00
joakimk	usr13_: How can I find the IP info?	03:01
raylu	joakimk, coleys, usr13_: call the front desk with "hey, networkmanager says i'm connected but..." and your response is not going to be helpful	03:01
coleys	joakimk: sudo ifconfig And see if your given ips and such.	03:01
usr13_	joakimk: Well, look at what you have now, the connection with XP - How it was initiated, what IP information you got from the dhcp server, etc..	03:01
raylu	coleys: no need to sudo there	03:01
joakimk	raylu: hehe :)	03:01
usr13_	And then try and connect with linux and see what you get.	03:01
coleys	raylu: Wah, im use to other systems that do require sudo =P my bad.	03:01
usr13_	joakimk: And then try and connect with linux and see what you get.	03:01
joakimk	coleys: only thing is, I then have to boot back into Ubuntu :-/	03:01
raylu	coleys: some other systems don't have sbin in users' paths, but they still don't require sudo for ifconfig	03:01
bobzillion	what file is responsible for the boot selection menu on the live CD? And can it be altered to point to a USB device as a choice?	03:02
rdw200169	joakimk, don't worry about it, almost all Koreans speak English now, you just have to understand that the accent is really strong, and that you need to talk relatively slowly and clearly	03:02
usr13_	joakimk: Boot in linux and see what happens, look at ipconfig etc..	03:02
joakimk	usr13_: Yes, but how do I find this info in XP?	03:02
coleys	raylu: Well im telling you right now, that some other sytems just display "Command not found" if you don't run as root. =P	03:02
raylu	coleys: and, like i said, that's because sbin isn't in your path but it's in root's	03:02
usr13_	joakimk: In the control panel you should see network connections. Or you can go to the command line and do ipconfig -a	03:03
coleys	raylu: Anyways ,better safe then sorry =) Sudo doesn't harm.	03:03
usr13_	joakimk: or is it ipconfig /all ?	03:03
joakimk	rdw200169: Yes, this is my experience, too. It's more to do with the linux/network stuff :)	03:03
raylu	coleys: i beg to differ	03:03
coleys	joakimk: in XP... run--> cmd --> ipconfig\all	03:03
raylu	coleys: the better safe than sorry approach is to just run /sbin/ifconfig	03:03
raylu	coleys: ipconfig /all, iirc	03:03
coleys	eh I dont think there is a space.	03:04
raylu	there certainly is a space	03:04
joakimk	usr13_: Hmm.. Can I somehow type the address (IP) of the hotel's start page?	03:04
crxyem	yup ipconfig /all	03:04
usr13_	joakimk: Yes, click Start > Run > cmd	03:04
crxyem	certainly a space	03:04
joakimk	usr13_: using this info from XP?	03:04
raylu	20:47:09 salam> i don' tunderstand english	03:04
crxyem	i'm using 8.10 and have pre-releases turned on in my repo's, I can't seem to do a dist upgrade to 9.04	03:04
coleys	joakimk: start --> Run --> Cmd --> ipconfig\all	03:04
usr13_	joakimk: Yes, go to the command line and see what you have.	03:05
joakimk	usr13_: maybe I should paste this?	03:05
coleys	That will display your ip aswell as gateway/dns information.	03:05
joakimk	:)	03:05
b0w	hellooo, to run quake3 i have to install wine?	03:05
usr13_	joakimk: give command ipconfig /all	03:05
crxyem	^concur	03:05
joakimk	usr13_;: what's the preferred bin here?	03:05
Helen_McCall	Can anyone help me reset my keychain password? I changed my administrator password but it didn't change the keychain. I also tried rm ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring which removed the default.keyring file but when i restarted my computer it tried to connect to WiFi and asked me for the same password again	03:05
usr13_	joakimk: Start > Run > cmd	03:06
joakimk	usr13_: no, that's fine :) I mean, where should I paste? :)	03:06
BingO	Hi guyz.. dam many people...	03:06
coleys	http://pastebin.ca	03:06
sambagirl	look at this	03:06
usr13_	joakimk: pastebin.ca	03:06
swetha	work spaces cannot be increased more than two in ubuntu 8.04?	03:06
sambagirl	http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xcode+download	03:06
raylu	woah, ignore that last paste by me	03:06
Helen_McCall	swetha: you can get more than 2	03:06
raylu	swetha: yes they can	03:06
crxyem	sure they can	03:07
RequinB4	swetha: do you have ccsm running?	03:07
RequinB4	swetha: compiz	03:07
BingO	Rsync command can update chagned files to new server but when i delete andy file at source server then why did it also not delted from destination server ???	03:07
swetha	i am trying in preferences but i cannot make it	03:07
joakimk	usr13_: http://pastebin.ca/1477957	03:07
swetha	yes i have compiz running	03:07
raylu	BingO: --delete	03:07
RequinB4	swetha: ok, go to the compiz manager and then click on general options	03:08
BingO	raylu: what this delete do can you explain.. i think its also dangerious ?	03:08
raylu	BingO: run your rsync command but add -n --delete	03:08
raylu	BingO: it will show you what files it intends to delete	03:08
Khisanth	hmm is it just me or is packages.ubuntu.com's search broken?	03:08
raylu	BingO: but basically, if you delete a file from src, it gets deleted from dest.	03:08
bobzillion	what file is responsible for the boot selection menu on the live CD? And can it be altered to point to a USB device as a choice?	03:09
RequinB4	swetha - then go to the last tab and increase your horizontal virtual size	03:09
swetha	<RequinB4>: yes i did	03:09
eulalio	there is anynone of mexico?	03:09
eulalio	im mexican	03:09
BingO	raylu: after this command when i will delete any file from server then it will also get delte from another server ?	03:09
RequinB4	!es > eulalio	03:09
ubottu	eulalio, please see my private message	03:09
raylu	bobzillion: let me guess, your machine doesn't support booting off a usb drive?	03:09
usr13_	joakimk: See?> Your IP Address is 221.142.247.166 your GW is 221.142.247.230 and your DNS server is 210.94.0.73	03:09
raylu	BingO: yes. like i said, -n --delete will show you what it does	03:10
raylu	BingO: -n = --dry-run	03:10
eulalio	i can see it	03:10
bobzillion	raylu correct, almost: I have a user who keeps asking me, and it's his machine...	03:10
swetha	RequinB4:is the tab Focus & Raise Behaviour	03:10
dks1985	salve	03:10
joakimk	usr13_: yes, but how do I use this in Ubuntu :)	03:10
bobzillion	raylu: correct, almost: I have a user who keeps asking me, and it's his machine...	03:10
dks1985	necessito urgentemente un aiuto	03:10
raylu	bobzillion: not easily, and i don't know how. but if you already have a livecd, why bother?	03:10
RequinB4	swetha no it should be desktop size	03:10
joakimk	usr13_: Do I create a manual, new connection?	03:11
BingO	raylu: ok thankZz.. what is --delete-exclude some thing like that ?	03:11
raylu	!es \| dks1985	03:11
ubottu	dks1985: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	03:11
bobzillion	raylu: this user apparently can't afford to burn a cd for each distro he wants to try	03:11
BingO	joakmik: what was your prob ?	03:12
raylu	BingO: that's if you choose to --exclude some things too	03:12
usr13_	joakimk: Now just boot to linux and look at the output of ifconfig, you should see something similar, if not run sudo dhclient, if that doesn't work just put the info in manually. But if you get ip info just point your browser to google.com and hit enter a couple times and it might take you to some login screen where you put in your email address ... etc.	03:12
raylu	!it \| dk	03:12
ubottu	dk: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)	03:12
raylu	oops	03:12
BingO	raylu: thankz.. got it	03:12
RequinB4	bobzillion: try a vm?	03:12
swetha	RequinB4: yes i got it. Thank you	03:12
raylu	bobzillion: what he said.	03:12
RequinB4	swetha: np	03:12
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thedoor	someobyd uses ubuntu with two monitors?	03:13
croddy	reconfiguring fontconfig-config at priority 'low' used to ask me for my global hinting and antialiasing preferences. in 9.04 it does not. have these debconf options been moved, or removed? and how can i find them?	03:13
joakimk	BingO: Trying to get a hotel's wired internet service to work also in Ubuntu (plug&play in XP)	03:13
dks1985	hi	03:13
dks1985	im italian sorry for my bad english	03:13
mezquitale	!italian	03:13
ubottu	Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)	03:13
dks1985	i need help to install last revision of ACE library	03:13
joakimk	usr13_: I tried reloading... I can't simply go to some IP (gateway?) in Firefox directly, to get started?	03:13
bobzillion	RequinB4, VM not a bad idea, this is for a user who wants to install several distros, but not burn the cds	03:13
legend2440	bobzillion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948	03:14
dks1985	on italian channel are all offline	03:14
bobzillion	legend2440, thanks. off to look	03:14
BingO	jaokimk: now XP is directly connected with ISP.. now you want to use this XP as a shared Internet server for ubuntu ?	03:14
joakimk	usr13_: :) Just want most info before I reboot.	03:14
dks1985	can help me to update my ACE library pls?	03:14
usr13_	joakimk: You can creat a manual connection if need be. So if you need to... do something like: sudo ifconfig eth0 ; 221.142.247.166 ; sudo route add default gw 221.145.247.130 ; sudo cat >> nameserver 201.142.247.130	03:14
kavon	Is it really bad that if I ping my wireless router 10 times with packets 10KB in size and get 100% packet loss? a regular small 60 some byte ping gets me 10% loss	03:14
RequinB4	bobzillion: if s/he just wants to test them out, a free virtual machine is best you can just boot the iso without a cd. Otherwise, there's no way around besdies having a comp that boots usb	03:15
joakimk	BingO: Well, I've paid for net access. In Xp, Firefox gives me the hotel's start page, in Ubuntu I get nothing	03:15
dks1985	I have revision 5.4.7 and whit apt-get install libace-dev dont give me the last (5.7)	03:15
Apollo2366	Hey, anyone know of a good channel for bash help?	03:15
raylu	thedoor: plenty of people. specify your video card	03:15
usr13_	joakimk: If "sudo cat >> /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 201.142.247.130" doesnt work do sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf	03:16
RenatoSilva	How to make my guitar play in Ubuntu?	03:16
thedoor	im using a 8600gt nvidia card	03:16
BingO	joakimk: i see, you meant ubuntu is also seperatly connected with hotel internet connection just like XP.. did Ubuntu get auto IP address ?	03:16
thedoor	i have image on two monitors...	03:16
RenatoSilva	I can record it, but I want to hear it as I play	03:16
thedoor	but the aplications just open in on	03:16
joakimk	BingO: Right. I'll have to reboot back into Ubuntu to check the IP. Will do shortly :)	03:16
thedoor	if a open some aplication in my monitor 1 it opens in monitor 0	03:17
usr13_	joakimk: Correction: sudo ifconfig eth0 ; 221.142.247.166 ; sudo route add default gw 221.145.247.130 ; sudo cat >> /etc/resolv.conf and then type in: nameserver 201.142.247.130	03:17
bobzillion	RequinB4, thanks.	03:17
usr13_	joakimk: Correction: sudo ifconfig eth0 221.142.247.166 ; sudo route add default gw 221.145.247.130 ; sudo cat >> /etc/resolv.conf and then type in: nameserver 201.142.247.130	03:17
BingO	jakimk: ok and also see what usr13_ is saying..	03:17
usr13_	joakimk: something like that... anyway.	03:17
raylu	usr13_: i bet my life savings that the hotel won't let you use a static ip	03:17
BingO	usr13: if its DHCP then no need for assigning IP	03:17
dks1985	can help me?	03:17
joakimk	usr13_: ...and this won't screw up my normal net connect, when I'm back home? ;)	03:18
dks1985	whit ACE library?	03:18
goner	anyone here solved ye old mighty mouse horizontal scroll reversal issue? The left and right scroll is reversed.	03:18
goner	[04:38] <cycom> virtualroadside: SUCCESS. I editited the source and changed mouse_wheel_left=7 and mouse_wheel_right=6 and it worked. not sure what it'll do to other mice, but I don't have any other mise.	03:18
BingO	jaokimk: don't worry Ubuntu will not eat internet connection with out PEPSI :)	03:18
usr13_	raylu: You are probably right. The dhcp server will probably give his linux box ip info just like it does the XP box.	03:18
raylu	joakimk, usr13_: those commands are all temporary... except the last one, which doesn't work	03:18
quakelive	I figured out how to get my sound working in Ubuntu	03:18
edge	how do i install python version 2.5 in ubuntu 9.04?	03:18
bobzillion	legend2440, thanks a bunch. I'll throw this@my user, and see if he'll follow through	03:18
goner	I found this is a IRC log on google... Have no clue where he changed it though	03:18
raylu	joakimk, usr13_: because you're running cat as root, but not writing to /etc/resolv.conf as root	03:19
joakimk	raylu: So, what do I type if I already am assigned an IP, then?	03:19
legend2440	bobzillion: ok	03:19
raylu	jacekowski:	03:19
raylu	what the.	03:19
usr13_	raylu: But, the hotel will more than likely not know that he is using a static IP because that IP info has already been given to that NIC.	03:19
raylu	joakimk: no idea	03:19
BingO	usr13_: thankz... if he don't ping to google after getting IP then its mean time to put DNS	03:19
raylu	usr13_: and he has released it when he rebooted	03:19
RenatoSilva	how to hear guitar as you play?	03:19
RenatoSilva	how to hear microphone input as you speak?	03:20
dethray	unmute?	03:20
usr13_	raylu: You don't know how the hotel's dhcp server is set up. It may have a lease time of one day or one week or... what ever, you / we just do not know.	03:20
Apollo2366	Anybody know where I might get some assistance with bash scripting?	03:20
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BingO	haha	03:21
halberd	is there any reason to use fish instead of bash? (I've been using bash for years)	03:21
joakimk	raylu: btw, if I just "su -" first, I'll write as root, too, right?	03:21
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usr13_	!bash \| Apollo2366	03:21
ubottu	Apollo2366: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal	03:21
BingO	jaokimk: listen do what i say.. dudes tell me simple	03:21
halberd	I've heard fish is more "user friendly" but what exactly does that mean?	03:21
legend2440	Apollo2366: channel #bash	03:21
joakimk	usr13_: I've paid for 24hrs	03:21
quakelive	I must admit, apart from this sound kerfuffle, Ubuntu 9.04 looks good.	03:21
raylu	joakimk: yes, but i think sudo su -c 'cat ... will serve your purposes	03:21
BingO	jaokimk: type $sudo -s	03:21
Apollo2366	thanks legend2440	03:21
dks1985	hot to update ACE Library??	03:21
BingO	Jaokimk: then #ifconfig	03:22
joakimk	yes :)	03:22
BingO	jaokimk: what is result of #ifconfig .. pastebin to it	03:22
usr13_	joakimk: Try it and see. We have probably given you enough information - you'll be able to figure it out when you reboot.	03:22
joakimk	BingO: That's the problem -- if I could access the paste page, I'd be fine :) I'm in XP now	03:22
joakimk	usr13_: ok, thanks! I'll give it a try	03:23
BingO	ohh ok..	03:23
Blatz	hi, I am trying to use sftp to connect to a server with a non standard port. does anyone know the syntax to do so?	03:23
usr13_	joakimk: Come back and let us know.	03:23
BingO	jaokimk: no problem just chill.. now see that #ifconfig command gave same range of IP 212.. jus tlike XP ?	03:23
joakimk	usr13_, raylu, BingO: thanks!	03:23
kavon	Blatz: are you using a gui to do this or some cmd app?	03:23
usr13_	joakimk: We can only speculate on how the hotel has their servers set up.	03:23
BingO	jaokimk: No.. thanks.. do what i say.. i will never leave this Internet :)..	03:23
joakimk	usr13_: yeah... :-/	03:24
usr13_	joakimk: What hotel chain is it?	03:24
crxyem	so anyone know how to dist-upgrade from 9.04 pre-release to 9.04??	03:24
Blatz	[kavon, through console	03:24
BingO	jaokimk: its to simple issue.. 5 mins game only..	03:24
BingO	cryxyum: #yum update	03:24
MrKeuner	recently gnome applets are dying when the system is restarted. They run fine otherwise. What may be the problem?	03:24
kavon	Blatz: man [command] didn't tell you anything?	03:25
BingO	cryxyum: $sudo apt-get update ... sorry :P	03:25
usr13_	crxyem: apt-get upgrade	03:25
rww	crxyem: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade.	03:25
BingO	yes.. that is correct.. clapping.. first update and then upgrade	03:25
Blatz	kavon: not sure what you mean, but I'll try what I think you do.	03:25
BingO	$sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade	03:25
rww	crxyem: i.e., a Jaunty pre-release with all updates applied is theoretically the same as a jaunty final release with all updates applied.	03:25
crxyem	didn't know that would still work, I was trying to use the update-notifier method	03:26
BingO	Joakimk:	03:26
RequinB4	Blatz: -oPort=<port>	03:26
kavon	Blatz: yea stick ' man ' infront of any command to get the manual page, it'll have info on special parameters you can use with the program	03:26
usr13_	BingO: Bingo!	03:26
snowy	hi. is there any program that I can use to see what connections are made by the programs I am running?	03:26
RequinB4	blatz: since i'm feeling nice i won't tell you to read the manual this time	03:26
usr13_	snowy: tcpdump	03:26
BingO	Usr13_: yeZ	03:26
rww	snowy: wireshark, tcpdump, netstat, probably others	03:26
crxyem	rww: yeah but for some reason, if I cat /etc/issue it lists 8.10, and an about KDE shows KDE3.5.10	03:26
snowy	netstat doesnt say which program made the connection	03:27
snowy	do tcpdump and wireshark?	03:27
rww	crxyem: "cat /etc/issue" should show 9.04 for Jaunty prereleases.	03:27
usr13_	cryptide: lsb_release -a	03:27
halberd	I love my little cairo-penguin orange fish	03:27
Blatz	RequinB4: thanks, I did, but nothing popped out, thanks	03:27
Blatz	RequinB4: I don't know why it should be different than ssh.	03:28
M4d3L	hi. any equivalent to dxdiag for ubuntu?	03:28
rww	crxyem: I'd probably try the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades and see if it offers a distribution upgrade to you.	03:29
RequinB4	Blatz: np. as for the difference, when in doubt, blame, in order, tradition, then a witty pun	03:29
M4d3L	or can I run dxdiag with wine?	03:29
raylu	M4d3L: there is no directx support in ubuntu, but there's xdpyinfo and a host of other utilities. also, /var/log/Xorg.0.log	03:29
usr13_	M4d3L: whawt is dxdiag?	03:29
crxyem	hmmm, somethings odd then, I do have pre-releases turned on in my repos, and KDE is definetly not 3.5, as it is using the dashboard w/ widgets	03:29
Blatz	RequinB4: lol thanks	03:29
crxyem	I'll give it a go	03:29
raylu	snowy: netstat -p	03:30
snowy	rww: netstat doesnt say which program made the connection, do wireshark and tcpdump?	03:30
ctmjr	crxyem: you can also try sudo update-manager -d and see what it tells you	03:31
raylu	snowy: -ntp is more likely to be helpful	03:31
rww	snowy: Not sure. The only time I've needed to filter by program name was when figuring out what was using all my bandwidth, and I used the "nethogs" program for that.	03:31
snowy	ah, netstat -ntp seems to be what I need :)	03:33
snowy	thanks	03:33
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Blatz	RequinB4: this didn't work "sftp datz@192.168.0.30 -oPort=23" but I guess I will look over the man pages more thoughly.	03:35
therussianjig	if I try to boot my laptop while not connected to a power source, I must hold the spacebar down, or the boot will hang, any ideas how to fix this?	03:36
krabe	ubuntu has same packages as debian?	03:36
krabe	i mean if ubuntu gets sources from debian packages or has its own	03:36
ctmjr	krabe: it's own	03:36
bazhang	packages.ubuntu.com krabe (separate)	03:36
raylu	krabe: ubuntu gets some of it's sources from debian, but they're all compiled on ubuntu systems	03:36
crxyem	update-manager -d, returns a dialog do you want to do a full upgrade to the new dist. release 9.04	03:37
freedumMan	does anyone know about VSFTPD chmod as 755	03:37
RequinB4	Blatz try putting the -<etc> second	03:37
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raylu	Blatz: the command looks fine, it could be a networking issue	03:37
freedumMan	i have local u mask as 022 but want a 755 chmod on all uploaded files	03:37
raylu	Blatz: can you connect with ssh?	03:37
ttmrichter	Is Ubuntu 8.04LTS (emphasis on the S there) going to get the upgrade to Pidgin 2.5.7? At this point two major IM networks can't be connected to with Pidgin 2.5.2.	03:38
ctmjr	crxyem: is that not what you wanted?	03:38
usr13_	freedumMan: So you need to tweek your ftp server's config?	03:38
Blatz	raylu: I can log in with ssh	03:38
raylu	Blatz: on port 23?	03:38
Blatz	in fact, I'm using an console IRC app through ssh on that pc now.	03:38
crxyem	yeah, lets see if it works	03:38
SoulSample	when I open a terminal with a keyboard shortcut it doesn't default to my home, but to "/" .... why is that?	03:38
freedumMan	usr13_, correct i've set local umask and tried changing it but it continues to use 644	03:39
usr13_	freedumMan: What ftp server are you using?	03:39
raylu	usr13_: 21:35:29 freedumMan> does anyone know about VSFTPD chmod as 755	03:39
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therussianjig	if I try to boot my laptop while not connected to a power source, I must hold the spacebar down, or the boot will hang, any ideas how to fix this?	03:39
Guest27971	hey i m new to irc	03:39
usr13_	raylu: Oh sorry...	03:39
Guest27971	will u please help me out how to login to another channel	03:40
raylu	Blatz: yes? no?	03:40
cabrey	Guest27971, /join #channelname	03:40
crxyem	^concur	03:40
Guest27971	thank u	03:40
usr13_	freedumMan: man vsftpd.conf	03:40
Blatz	raylu: sorry, yes on port 23	03:40
raylu	Blatz: try scp-ing a file. -P for scp	03:41
freedumMan	usr13_, dont u think i did that?	03:41
raylu	freedumMan: you'd be surprised	03:41
Blatz	raylu: sorry I don't understand.	03:41
raylu	Blatz: scp -P 23 datz@192.168.0.30:.bashrc .	03:41
freedumMan	usr13_, im aware of the settings its not taking the local umask and i have used vsftpd before on cent with no problem but ubuntu is not making my night	03:41
crxyem	man, dist-upgrade returns that I have a broken package or held back package, not sure why htis is happening	03:42
crxyem	possible from running a pre-released version	03:42
usr13_	freedumMan: Did you restart vsftpd	03:42
usr13_	?	03:42
freedumMan	yes	03:42
usr13_	freedumMan: You have the line: local_umask=xxx in there?	03:43
vinoman	hi	03:43
freedumMan	yes local_umask=022	03:44
Guest27971	i am not getting connect to another channel by typing /join swecha	03:44
Blatz	raylu: http://pastebin.com/m1d065cb0	03:44
therussianjig	you need the pound key	03:44
freedumMan	Guest27971, try /j swecha	03:44
usr13_	freedumMan: Well, I'm not sure why it would behave any different from one distro to another....?	03:44
flanders	I'm running Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04. How do I disable pulseaudio, completely? If I try to uninstall pulseaudio packages, it wants to remove ubuntu-netbook-remix as well.	03:44
raylu	Blatz: sorry, you need that . at the end	03:44
freedumMan	me neither hence im here	03:44
raylu	Blatz: actually, now that i think about it, it's not such a great idea	03:44
raylu	Blatz: scp -P 23 datz@192.168.0.30:.bashrc test	03:45
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raylu	flanders: ubuntu-netbook-remix is just a virtual package	03:45
usr13_	freedumMan: Apparently something else is changing permissions on those files for you.... but dono what it would be.	03:45
raylu	flanders: on my system, i don't have ubuntu-desktop installed because i wanted to get rid of cups	03:45
therussianjig	if I try to boot my laptop while not connected to a power source, I must hold the spacebar down, or the boot will hang, any ideas how to fix this?	03:45
flanders	The description says that it is needed for updating my syste, raylu.	03:45
flanders	*system	03:45
Guest27971	quit()	03:46
flanders	Not ubuntu-desktop, raylu. ubuntu-netbook-remix package.	03:46
raylu	flanders: the only downside to removing the main virtual package is that if they think you need some new packages, they'll update the virtual package and your system won't pull them in automatically	03:46
raylu	flanders: i know, but it's the same thing	03:46
usr13_	freedumMan: Or you could test and see if it happens imediately or if it happens after a reboot or what.	03:46
BingO	back..	03:46
flanders	raylu, what do you mean? When updates are available, the virtual package will reinstall itself, along with its dependencies?	03:47
freedumMan	usr13_, its happening when i ftp it, i checked	03:47
raylu	flanders: no, when updates to your individual packages are available, you'll still get them, but	03:47
raylu	flanders: if new packages are added as depdencies to ubuntu-netbook-remix, you won't	03:47
BingO	FreedumMan: whats the problem .. ?	03:47
raylu	flanders: it doesn't happen often, though, and it's unlikely that they'll be anything major. you can always see what you're missing with "aptitude -s install ubuntu-netbook-remix"	03:48
flanders	Hmmmm.	03:48
Blatz	raylu: Its asking for my pass, so it looks like it got through.	03:48
raylu	flanders: my main concern is that removing the pulseaudio packages doesn't actually remove pulseaudio	03:48
flanders	So what would an alternative be, raylu?	03:48
raylu	Blatz: then perhaps we are doing something wrong with sftp	03:48
usr13_	freedumMan: Is the client anonymous or a local user login or...?	03:48
freedumMan	BingO, i would like to 755 chmod my files when a user uploads	03:48
raylu	flanders: i have no idea :P	03:48
Blatz	raylu: http://pastebin.com/m1970bf0e	03:48
freedumMan	it's a local user	03:48
flanders	I don't have pulseaudio in my Startup programs, and I am only using ALSA for evetything, raylu.	03:48
Blatz	raylu: I guess so	03:48
flanders	However, pulseaudio always runs in the background, raylu.	03:49
raylu	Blatz: btw, ctrl+d = logout	03:49
BingO	freedumMan: Files or directories ?	03:49
Blatz	raylu: hehe, thanks	03:49
therussianjig	if I try to boot my laptop while not connected to a power source, I must hold the spacebar down, or the boot will hang, any ideas how to fix this?	03:49
freedumMan	Files, directories are working with right bitmask's	03:49
cabrey	flanders, why do you want to remove pulseaudio?	03:49
BingO	hmm..	03:50
usr13_	freedumMan: You may need to designate in the config file, like: local_umask=022 or anon_umask=022	03:50
raylu	Blatz: well, sftp says it's using port 22, so	03:50
raylu	Blatz: edit ~/.ssh/config	03:50
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flanders	cabrey: I don't need it, plus I am trying to minimize any programs running to squeeze out every last bit of juice in my battery.	03:50
BingO	fredumMans: so its mean you want to change its default permission/umask	03:50
flanders	It's espcially needed for this MSI Wind u100 netbook. (Weaker-than-normal battery.)	03:50
therussianjig	flanders: you can edit the startup programs so it just doesn't boot	03:51
cabrey	flanders, removing PA will create more problems than it solves imo	03:51
Blatz	raylu: ah, ok I guess I did that for ssh, but not for sftp. sorry to be so stupid. :P	03:51
raylu	Blatz: no, that's not the problem	03:51
freedumMan	BingO, i need it to be 755 for files yes	03:51
flanders	cabrey: That is why I am wondering if I can disable it from running as a process in the first place.	03:51
raylu	Blatz: anyway, edit that file and put this in it:	03:51
raylu	Blatz: http://pastebin.com/m7c5ed698	03:51
therussianjig	flanders: yes you can, just turn it off from the boot menu, I have already done this	03:51
raylu	Blatz: then, try just "ssh 192.168.0.30" without any other parameters	03:51
Blatz	ok	03:51
cabrey	therussianjig, PA is per-user session, it still activaates upon call	03:52
therussianjig	cabrey: What?	03:52
cabrey	therussianjig, pulseaudio is per-user not systemwide	03:52
flanders	therussianjig: How? It is nowhere in my startup applications.	03:53
freedumMan	BingO, the vsftpd log file stats it's chmoding to 644 but im unsure what local_umask needs to be for 755	03:53
therussianjig	ah, under my startup apps I have Pulse audio session manager	03:53
BingO	FreedumMan: in /etc/vsftpd.conf .. type this file_open_mode with 0755	03:54
BingO	freedumMan: use 0755 not 755	03:54
pie-not-high	hey, i have a problem with using the intel drivers for the i810 chipset. if i use the intel driver instead of the vesa driver my monitor goes blank with the backlight off. Does anyone know what to do?	03:54
flanders	therussianjig: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?	03:54
therussianjig	Flanders: 9.04	03:54
vinoman	in xfce, how to icons for quick launch programs on the upper toolbar?	03:55
freedumMan	BingO, umm it's used to subtract permission bit masks on local umask	03:55
flanders	Same here.	03:55
flanders	KDE or GNOME?	03:55
usr13_	pie-not-high: There may be newer drivers from intel, check and see.	03:55
cabrey	flanders, removing/disabling PA will not give you better battery life, disabling compiz, however, will	03:55
Blatz	raylu: There is no config file in that dir, only "know_hosts"	03:55
raylu	Blatz: yup. create it	03:55
vinoman	excuse me. how to add icons to upper toolbar?	03:55
flanders	cabrey: Already disable compiz.	03:55
Blatz	ok	03:55
cabrey	flanders, i'm on a netbook with a 3 cell battery	03:55
vinoman	in XFCE	03:55
BingO	Blatz: whats the problem ?	03:55
lufis	Having some trouble with nfs. Can someone take a look? sudo mount -t nfs 10.0.0.3:/media/disk /home/sam/hdd	03:55
lufis	... I get "mount: Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock [etc.]"	03:55
flanders	cabrey: I suppse you're right. I'll just leave pulseaudio running.	03:55
freedumMan	BingO, i wonder if vsftpd is not using my config file?	03:56
hirajo	Ive screwed up my firefox flash video codec... What do I do to fix it.. It only shows a little black stripe of the movie	03:56
flanders	cabrey: How many hours do you get from a full charge?	03:56
cabrey	flanders, ~3 - 3.5	03:56
lufis	hirajo: why do you think you "screwed it up"?	03:56
flanders	On a 3-cell? Are you serious?	03:56
BingO	FreeduMan : how ?.. whic version r u using of Ubuntu ?	03:56
cabrey	flanders, use a lightweight web browser like chromium or epiphany	03:56
Blatz	raylu: restart ssh?	03:56
notdarkyet	have you guys ever heard of an error where the filesystem will suddenly go read-only for all files?	03:57
freedumMan	BingO, 8.10	03:57
Blatz	BingO: I can't connect to sftp through a non standart port.	03:57
BingO	FreedumMan: your config files means ?.. you r not editing vsftpd.conf ?	03:57
flanders	cabrey: On IDLE, with wireless turned off, with laptop mode running, the MOST I can get is 2:40 to 2:50 hours, never touching the mouse or keyboard!	03:57
flanders	Before doing these tweaks, I could only get TWO hours, tops, same conditions.	03:57
freedumMan	BingO, im sorry im not sure what your saying your config file means...	03:58
BingO	Blatz: which port you set in SSHD_config file except 22 ?	03:58
flanders	cabrey: Which netbook do you have?	03:58
cabrey	flanders, ouch... maybe because power management in the kernel is better for eee pcs?	03:58
raylu	Blatz: er, no. this is locally, not on the server	03:58
flanders	That's Asus, eh?	03:58
cabrey	yup	03:58
raylu	Blatz: just run "ssh 192.168.0.30"	03:58
BingO	freedumMan: ok leav it, did you put 0755 in local_umask ?	03:58
flanders	Well, damn.	03:58
cabrey	flanders, try crunchbang or even arch :/	03:59
usr13_	pie-not-high: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-April/045117.html	03:59
flanders	cabrey: I read a review about the MSI Wind u100, and as wonderful as it is (well-built, good specs, and full Ubuntu compatibility) it's 3-cell battery is weaker than comparable netbook 3-cell batteries.	03:59
freedumMan	yes no luck	03:59
flanders	cabrey: But it will be the same kernel.	03:59
cabrey	flanders, you could try the array.org netbook kernel	04:00
the9a3eedi	Hi. Is the tracker indexer running by default in Ubuntu 9.04? and if so, how can I use it? I can't find any indexing options in the System menu.	04:00
notdarkyet	suddenly my system went read only and I cant do much of anything. Have you guys heard of this before?	04:00
Blatz	BingO: 23 raylu: Ok, I did it on the server, let me try on client machine	04:00
mazda01	anyone have Imaging-1.1.6.tar.gz? I am trying to run a script that saves all the album covers from amarok onto my computer. i need that tar ball and effbot.org is down right now.	04:00
raylu	Blatz: doing it on the server will have no effect whatsoever	04:00
notdarkyet	anyone?	04:01
raylu	notdarkyet: and gui-less?	04:01
BingO	FreedumMan: local_umask=0755 ? in vsftpd.conf	04:01
Pici	mazda01: python-imaging?	04:01
freedumMan	BingO, yea	04:01
usr13_	notdarkyet: read-only?	04:01
flanders	cabrey: No MSI Wind support?	04:01
Blatz	raylu: sorry, I'm tired. :P	04:01
eikenberry	Anyone know of a technical description of the differences between debian and ubuntu? Things like the init system and such.	04:01
notdarkyet	raylu: no but i cannot open anything at all	04:01
flanders	It lists MSI Wind on the front page, cabrey. But not in the install or support pages.	04:01
raylu	eikenberry: debian supports like a billion architectures	04:01
usr13_	notdarkyet: df	04:01
cabrey	flanders, http://array.org/ubuntu/ MSI Wind is listed	04:02
legend2440	mazda01: http://code.google.com/p/savory/downloads/detail?name=Imaging-1.1.6.tar.gz&can=2&q=	04:02
cabrey	flanders, he doesnt have time to maintain those pages	04:02
notdarkyet	raylu: suddenly all of the files in my user path are read only	04:02
raylu	eikenberry: and their packages in stable are a lot older than ours, in general	04:02
Blatz	raylu: Ok, with no port rule it connects through ssh	04:02
BingO	fredumMan: restart vsftpd and check which permission it give to new upload file..	04:02
cabrey	flanders, just dont use the -eeepc kernel	04:02
eikenberry	raylu. I know. I'm a long time debian user (10+ years).	04:02
raylu	Blatz: and no user either, right?	04:02
Pici	raylu: We sync our packages from debian unstable/experimental generally.	04:02
raylu	eikenberry: oh	04:02
eikenberry	raylu. I know how most of the internals of debian work. I know ubuntu does some things differently (like system init).	04:03
Blatz	raylu: right	04:03
usr13_	notdarkyet: "user path"?	04:03
eikenberry	I was wondering if there was some docs on these differences.	04:03
notdarkyet	/home/user	04:03
BingO	blatz: ssh -p 23 localhost	04:03
flanders	Use the generic netbook kernel?	04:03
cabrey	flanders, yea	04:03
raylu	BingO: http://pastebin.com/m1970bf0e	04:03
usr13_	notdarkyet: what does df tell you?	04:03
notdarkyet	I cannot even open the terminal	04:03
Pici	eikenberry: Have you read this yet? http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian	04:03
Blatz	raylu: ok that work-around worked. :)	04:04
cabrey	notdarkyet, run an fsck	04:04
usr13_	notdarkyet: Ctrl-Alt-F6	04:04
raylu	Blatz: for sftp?	04:04
Phrogz	I installed server 9.04 and I guess I chose LAMP for apache, but now I decided to go with nginx. Can I just uninstall the lamp-server "unrecognized task" in aptitude and come out smelling clean?	04:04
eikenberry	Pici. yes.	04:04
Blatz	BingO: ssh was figured out. sftp was not, but raylu helped me with a workaround	04:04
notdarkyet	I am gonna restart, be back if I still have a problem	04:04
Blatz	raylu: yes sftp works now, thanks	04:04
eikenberry	Pici. It is more community/philosophical than technical.	04:04
flanders	cabrey: This will not affect any off my updates?	04:04
flanders	*of	04:04
raylu	Phrogz: unrecognized task?	04:05
raylu	Blatz: np. i suggest reporting a bug	04:05
cabrey	flanders, no, you will be using a non-ubuntu kernel (just derived from ubuntu)	04:05
eikenberry	Just a list of the big differences would suffice. I know about the different init systems. Are there any other big differences?	04:05
Blatz	raylu: ok, I'll look into it. It would be with sftp, correct?	04:05
raylu	Blatz: probably... i don't think it has its own package/bug tracker	04:06
flanders	Roger. Thanks for all of your help, cabrey. I'm going to give this a shot.	04:06
Phrogz	raylu - aptitude shows me 395 installed packages, 26444 not installed, 2604 "virtual packages", and 13044 "tasks", which are all in a subcategory "unrecognized tasks"	04:06
raylu	Phrogz: oh, you're actually using the aptitude ncurses interface?	04:06
flanders	It can't hurt, since if anything goes wrong, I'll just format and start from new. (I only have some documents and PDFs saved on here. Nothing else. A backup to USB stick will do fine.)	04:06
Phrogz	raylu - yeah	04:07
Blatz	raylu: humm, ok	04:07
flanders	Thanks a ton, cabrey, and everyone else that helped.	04:07
cabrey	flanders, you dont even need to do that, just choose the normal kernel instead at bootup	04:07
BingO	blatz: sftp -Port=23 datz@192.168.0.30	04:07
flanders	Oh.	04:07
BingO	blatz: sftp -oPort=23 datz@192.168.0.30	04:07
flanders	I always wondered how that worked.	04:07
flanders	When you boot up with a different kernel, nothing changes, aside from the kernel you're using? You don't get reverted back to older software or packages?	04:08
raylu	Phrogz: i'd suggest aptitude -s purge lamp-server	04:08
Blatz	BingO I had tried "sftp datz@192.168.0.30 -oPort=23" that didn't work	04:09
Phrogz	raylu - thanks, I'll check that out.	04:09
cabrey	flanders, nothing changes except the currently running kernel	04:09
crdlb	flanders: just the kernel	04:09
bullgard4	'~$ ekiga -d 4 > ~/tmp/ekiga.log20090629' obtained a log of 0 bytes length because I terminated this command using the 'Ctrl+C' command. How to end it properly for a meaningful log contents?	04:09
flanders	And what about security updates? Aren't they kernel-dependent?	04:09
raylu	flanders: some of the packages are modules that depend on the kernel, so which ones get loaded change. but the rest of your software, no	04:09
cabrey	flanders, not necessarily	04:10
flanders	Alright.	04:10
flanders	Well, thanks again guys. Going to give this a try.	04:10
flanders	I am holding all of you liable! I will sue for any and all damages done by this!	04:10
flanders	I'll see you in court!	04:10
cabrey	ok	04:10
flanders	lol	04:10
Phrogz	raylu - Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "lamp-server"; and then it only says it will get rid of python-pkg-resources{u} python-setuptools{u}	04:11
flanders	But seriously, thanks. This is something I've been searching for, espcially for my new netbook.	04:11
flanders	Take care, all.	04:11
BingO	hmm..	04:11
BingO	Blatz.. wat about SCP .. did you check that ? hmm if SSH was working that SCP should work well	04:12
raylu	Phrogz: i don't really understand tasks, but tasksel may help you. i always install my software with just aptitude, so i don't really understand what installing a lamp-server did	04:12
raylu	BingO: it did	04:12
Phrogz	raylu - alright, thanks for the help	04:12
NY_163	ha	04:12
rww	Phrogz: sudo tasksel install lamp-server	04:13
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Phrogz	raylu - tasksel ftw, thanks. FYI: tasksel -t remove lamp-server #=> debconf-apt-progress -- apt-get -q -y install apache2- libwrap0- mysql-server-core-5.0- mysql-client-5.0- tcpd- php5-mysql- libmysqlclient15off- mysql-server- mysql-server-5.0- libhtml-template-perl- ssl-cert- libpq5- mysql-common-	04:13
Phrogz	rww - close, I'm removing it :)	04:13
Blatz	thanks for your help raylu, bye	04:13
samorai	hi!	04:14
BingO	gone :)..	04:14
BingO	have go change port from 23 to any other.. may be	04:14
cabrey	!hi	04:14
ubottu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	04:14
samorai	I need help to delete 2 doc on my trash	04:15
samorai	so if I clic delete they not delete	04:15
BingO	samorai: go inside of trash and delete them..	04:15
BingO	samorai: what error it show ?	04:15
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samorai	so I have'nt permission to delete it and I am administrator	04:16
Hasbro	samorai want to delete stuff?	04:16
Hasbro	do: cd / then type sudo rm -rf ./	04:16
Hasbro	will delete stuff for good	04:16
Hilikus	hey guys	04:17
the9a3eedi	Hi. Is the tracker indexer running by default in Ubuntu 9.04? and if so, how can I use it? I can't find any indexing options in the System menu.	04:17
BingO	samorai: which user you used for login ?	04:17
cabrey	!ops \| Hasbro (sudo rm -rf)	04:17
ubottu	Hasbro (sudo rm -rf): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, , elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	04:17
mazda01	legend2440, thanks much!	04:17
samorai	Yes Bingo	04:17
bazhang	samorai, ignore that command	04:18
BingO	samorai: you login in by root / pass ?	04:18
BingO	samorai: ignore that command otherwise all will get clean..	04:18
Hilikus	im trying to install ubuntu 9.01 remix in my netbook, i dled the latest img and created a bootable usb key using unetbootin, it seems to boot from it, it shows the ubuntu logo and the progrss bar moving, but once i select check the disk or run without installing it drops to "busybox"	04:18
legend2440	mazda01: your welcome	04:18
wolter	+	04:18
Hilikus	how can i install ubuntu then?	04:18
samorai	Yes I Log in bye root and pass to access on system	04:18
BingO	samorai: how did you delte that files ?	04:18
samorai	sorry for my english	04:18
veridat	how can I stream mmsh?	04:19
BingO	samorai: no prob...	04:19
veridat	?	04:19
BingO	samorai: right click at trash and clean trash	04:20
samorai	I dont want delete All doc in trash and if I delete all I hav 2 doc and tey tell You hav'ent permission tu delete This 2 file	04:20
Hilikus	anyone?	04:20
veridat	can somebody help me?	04:20
BingO	samorai: why don't want to delete all .. and then why you put that docs in trash if you don't want to delet them ?	04:21
RequinB4	veridat: not if you don't ask a question	04:21
therussianjig	if I try to boot my laptop while not connected to a power source, I must hold the spacebar down, or the boot will hang, any ideas how to fix this?	04:21
bullgard4	'~$ ekiga -d 4 > ~/tmp/ekiga.log20090629' obtained a log of 0 bytes length because I terminated this command using the 'Ctrl+C' command. How to end it properly for a meaningful log contents?	04:21
veridat	I`ll answer a question I already did do you want to read it again?	04:22
BingO	samorai: ok .. NO prob... open terminal	04:22
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voss	Has anyone run 9.04 on a sylvania gnet13001?	04:22
samorai	so really I want to delete All beacause I want to Clean the trash but I can't because 2 file need permission	04:22
samorai	Ok I open terminal	04:22
BingO	samorai: #pwd	04:22
BingO	what is result	04:23
samorai	/home/family	04:23
veridat	nothing	04:23
BingO	samorai.. prompt is # or $ ?	04:23
veridat	~$	04:24
croddy	hi, how can i change my global fontconfig preferences to use either native hinting or the autohinter? this used to be a debconf option in fontconfig-config but it does not work as of 9.04.	04:24
BingO	Samorai: did you login by family username and its pass ?	04:24
legend2440	therussianjig: is this a HP?	04:24
veridat	positive	04:25
therussianjig	legend2440: yes it is	04:25
samorai	wat Bingo	04:25
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veridat	what do you see	04:25
BingO	Samorai: ok .. type $ sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*	04:25
legend2440	therussianjig: these posts are about your issue. post #13 says he fixed it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967679&page=2	04:26
bastidrazor	!trash	04:26
ubottu	The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash \| Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash	04:26
Hilikus	im trying to install ubuntu 9.01 remix in my netbook, i dled the latest img and created a bootable usb key using unetbootin, it seems to boot from it, it shows the ubuntu logo and the progrss bar moving, but once i select check the disk or run without installing it drops to "busybox"	04:26
veridat	not found	04:26
cabrey	Hilikus, you don't use unetbootin for an img file	04:27
Hilikus	cabrey: oooh	04:27
BingO	samorai: which ubuntu version r u using ?	04:27
therussianjig	legend2440: thanks!	04:27
sambagirl	can ubuntu run on this platform? http://www.ncac.gwu.edu/hpcl/comp_lab01.jpeg	04:27
veridat	gnome	04:27
Hilikus	cabrey: any suggestions then?	04:27
Hilikus	i need to do it from windows	04:27
cabrey	Hilikus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles	04:27
sambagirl	hilikus what are you tryng to do?	04:28
Hilikus	install ubuntu	04:28
sambagirl	use wube if you are trying to install ubuntu in windows	04:28
BingO	sambagirl: these are looking nice RACS.. which hardware is inside ? :)	04:28
sambagirl	download wube and put the iso on the desktop	04:28
sambagirl	sgi	04:28
veridat	I only want to stream live tv channels	04:28
samorai	xubuntu 8	04:28
Hilikus	sambagirl: i dont want to run it in a windiows partition	04:28
cabrey	sambagirl, that isn't what he is trying to do	04:28
sambagirl	binb0	04:28
sambagirl	oh cabrey	04:28
cabrey	Hilikus, have you looked at the provided link?	04:29
samorai	No Ubuntu 9.4 I use	04:29
Hilikus	cabrey: yes. that was probablt the problem, im pretty sure i'll work now	04:29
veridat	maybe vlc is blocking it?	04:29
bastidrazor	samorai, in terminal type lsb_release -a ..what does that give you?	04:29
sambagirl	http://images.google.com/images?pws=0&q=cray%20computers&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi look at those	04:29
nhacxo	alguien gusta charlar?	04:29
BingO	samorai type $ cd .Trash or $cd shared/trash	04:30
veridat	jaunty	04:30
samorai	Bing0 lsb_release -a	04:30
Mkop	why is it that sometimes certain programs will only start if I select run from terminal?	04:30
samorai	Junty	04:30
BingO	$rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*	04:30
BingO	samorai: type this command..	04:31
sambagirl	can ubuntu run on this? http://www.craysupercomputers.com/images/Systems/CrayXMP/CrayXMP_Feathered.jpg	04:31
veridat	are you trying to hack me	04:31
jcapinc	Mkop, your question lacks enough specificity to answer it	04:31
samorai	Ok I have Non doc ....	04:31
Phrogz	sambagirl - yes.	04:31
Phrogz	But it needs some patches.	04:31
BingO	samba girl.. these are looking sofas :D	04:31
sambagirl	wow phrogz	04:31
BingO	samorai: means ?	04:31
Mkop	jcapinc: when I hit Alt-F2 and type rdesktop -f -u someserver it's not showing up. But when I click "Run in Terminal" then it works	04:32
sambagirl	what kind of patches phrogz?	04:32
samorai	bash: cd: shared/trash: No file or doc for this type	04:33
Phrogz	sambagirl - I have no idea. But anything is possible given sufficient time and programming effort :)	04:33
sambagirl	i suppose	04:33
bullgard4	'~$ ekiga -d 4 > ~/tmp/ekiga.log20090629' obtained a log of 0 bytes length because I terminated this command using the 'Ctrl+C' command. How to end it properly for a meaningful log contents?	04:33
BingO	samorai: $rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*	04:33
sambagirl	it makes you wonder what the nsa has today?	04:33
donaldo_	hello	04:33
donaldo_	hola no hablo ingles	04:33
cabrey	!es	04:34
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	04:34
nhacxo	gustas charlar?	04:34
donaldo_	pero quisiera que me ayudaran con el siguiente error	04:34
sambagirl	that is a cray cpu? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/352805077_07933620cb.jpg?v=0	04:34
Phrogz	One of my CS professors in college told me a story about cray that I now wonder if it is true. That at one point the computers were all clockless, with the timing done by the appropriate length of fiber-optic cable. Differnt lengths to delay the signal the right amount to coordinate results.	04:34
donaldo_	en español nadie me brindo su ayuda	04:34
Hilikus	has anyone used win32 disk imager? does anyone know if it will wipe the usb key or not?	04:34
nhacxo	si no te puedo ayudar conozco a alguien,,,	04:34
Phrogz	That little old ladies were hired to build the machines because they provided the best attention to detail, picking the correct fiber optic cable length as specced during assembly.	04:35
cabrey	Hilikus, it will i think...	04:35
samorai	files is in trash sniff	04:35
donaldo_	synaptic no me abre la opcion de repositorios y en la consola me arroja el siguiente error http://paste.ubuntu.com/205976/	04:35
BingO	samorai: now its trash has clean up ?	04:35
sambagirl	i bet this is a big electric bill http://echelonathome.com/craymuseum.jpg	04:35
samorai	Non	04:35
samorai	no	04:35
veridat	I need tot type it?	04:35
jcapinc	uh... isnt this an english channel?	04:35
BingO	samoria: did that command gave any error message ?	04:36
cabrey	jcapinc, yea	04:36
nhacxo	!es	04:36
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	04:36
iamabanana	jcapinc that´s what i was wondering	04:36
samorai	No no error on command	04:36
BingO	samorai: now type this $sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*	04:36
bullgard4	jcapinc: Please read the topic	04:36
veridat	dislects	04:36
BingO	samorai: $sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*	04:37
donaldo_	ubottu: en esos canales no encontre ninguna ayuda	04:37
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	04:37
donaldo_	bueno sera google translator	04:37
cabrey	donaldo_, /join #ubuntu-es	04:37
jcapinc	bullgard4, I see no specificity about language, is that what you are refering to?	04:38
samorai	Yeah is clean Now	04:38
samorai	Thansk bing0	04:38
BingO	samorai :.. Good.. best of luck	04:38
donaldo_	nhacxo: me puedes ayudar o dar un link donde resuelvan este asunto?	04:38
supreme	donaldo_, hablo español	04:38
BingO	samorai: sorry for late.. actualy i am not using Ubuntu :P..	04:38
bullgard4	jcapinc: The topic is written in the English language.	04:39
jcapinc	right, ok	04:39
RequinB4	donaldo que es su problema	04:39
BingO	samorai: most welcome again ... if you need tution then i can give you :)	04:39
samorai	(-_-) Why? you use what ?	04:39
donaldo_	http://paste.ubuntu.com/205976/	04:39
bazhang	RequinB4, donaldo_ English here please	04:39
jcapinc	so speako el englisho or findo another channelo	04:39
iamabanana	well, the us is meant to become a hispanic country anyways... get used to it ;)	04:39
cabrey	oh wow	04:39
BingO	ah leav it	04:39
Apollo2366	jcapinc, please try to be civil	04:40
BingO	samorai: any more prob ?	04:40
donaldo_	cuando abro el synaptic y trato de abrir la opcion repositorios me sale ese mensaje de error	04:40
veridat	yeah its one big world	04:40
cabrey	iamabanana, ... ignorant enough?	04:40
jcapinc	I am being civil, lol	04:40
hermitmode	kinsay bisdak mag patabang ko agto sa #ubuntu-ph	04:40
supreme	donaldo_, which error? (cual error?)	04:40
TheRiLi	hello	04:40
jcapinc	and if you ever get to new england, you will see things differently about the US becoming hispanic	04:40
veridat	elfish	04:40
donaldo_	este http://paste.ubuntu.com/205976/	04:40
bazhang	donaldo_, english here #ubuntu-es por espanol	04:40
Apollo2366	jcapinc, well try not to degrade someone on the basis of what language they speak	04:40
samorai	thanks You a best help so i am Happy (-_-) bing0 Is the best	04:40
TheRiLi	hello all	04:40
iamabanana	;P	04:40
TheRiLi	i am her	04:41
BingO	samarai: i meant i was only telling my Guess ..	04:41
BingO	samorai: you are also best.. becoz now you have clean your trash .. good boy :) or gurl ?	04:41
jcapinc	Apollo2366, I am not degrading anyone, I am not against other languages, I dont like being kept in the dark, it is not fair to either party to get on an english channal and start speaking spanish	04:41
jcapinc	so they should find another channel or private chat	04:41
TheRiLi	exit	04:41
samorai	yo boy ;)	04:41
jcapinc	I cannot imagine that there is not spanish freenode channels	04:42
BingO	haha	04:42
cabrey	TheRiLi, /quit	04:42
bazhang	please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic	04:42
jcapinc	or whichever language they speek	04:42
supreme	donaldo_, people is right, lets go to ubuntu-es channel	04:42
jcapinc	apologize, conversation is over	04:42
supreme	here the language is english	04:42
veridat	international speaking	04:42
Apollo2366	jcapinc, I'm not concerned with your message so much as your tone. Adding an "o" at the end of english words is considered offensive, so just try to be curteous :)	04:42
samorai	lol bing0 my problm sometime is coding I use this only 3 week	04:43
veridat	where can I find news reports	04:43
Apollo2366	that's all I'm saying	04:43
samorai	command i say	04:43
donaldo_	este no es pues ubuntu internacional?	04:43
jcapinc	Apollo2366, I guess you are right, I was just having a moment	04:43
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samorai	so I move	04:43
causasui	adding 'o' at the end of words is offensive? why?	04:43
Gnea	!es	04:43
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	04:43
supreme	hahhahaah	04:43
cabrey	Apollo2366, but it is also offensive and ignorant for people to start speaking different languages in a one language room :/	04:43
supreme	adding o xD	04:43
iamabanana	any problemo?	04:43
aquachica	Este canal es para la gente que hablan ingles. Sigue a #ubuntu-es	04:43
jcapinc	Gnea, lol thats awsome!	04:44
samorai	bye all	04:44
veridat	double oo	04:44
supreme	ahaahahaaha so funny adding o at the end of words to talk in spanish	04:44
veridat	supremo	04:44
supreme	my main language is spanish btw	04:44
donaldo_	les molesta que hable español?	04:44
supreme	xd	04:44
Gnea	jcapinc: well, the discussion seems to have gotten a bit offtopic	04:44
veridat	spanish is interesting	04:44
bazhang	donaldo_, please stop	04:44
* cabrey facepalms		04:45
aquachica	Aqui, si. No se por que, pero mejor sigue a #ubuntu-es.	04:45
veridat	ronaldo?	04:45
bazhang	veridat, #ubuntu-offtopic	04:45
jaypro	best ftp server software with gui?	04:45
* jcapinc notices bazhang, and gnue trying to fix a trainwreck		04:45
veridat	stoned topics aight	04:45
supreme	stop talk in english for god's sake!	04:45
cabrey	jaypro, learn from a another sysadmin :/	04:46
supreme	haha	04:46
jaypro	lol	04:46
Gnea	jaypro: a gui for an ftp server?	04:46
jaypro	ive set one up before, but i figured it would be quicker if i saw one with a gui	04:46
supreme	oh, btw, adding an "o" at the end of english words is NOT considered offensive by people who talks spanish	04:47
supreme	its stupid to consider offensive that	04:47
bazhang	supreme, please take chat elsewhere	04:47
Gnea	jaypro: well, there is a gadmin-proftpd	04:48
iamabanana	it's considered stupid.	04:48
LargePrime	Greetings. Got a strange Problem. Firefox spell checker is the issue. Upon a misspelled word, If the right click KEY is pressed FF does not suggest a word. If the MOUSE is Right Clicked on the word, it suggests a word. The FF guys are wondering if it is a "Ubuntu Customization" Issue. Any Ideas?	04:48
cabrey	!ebox \| jaypro	04:48
ubottu	jaypro: ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox	04:48
Gnea	cabrey: forgot about ebox :)	04:48
sambagirl	ebox rocks	04:48
cabrey	>_<	04:48
sambagirl	ebox is excellent	04:48
sambagirl	i use it	04:48
sambagirl	it works	04:48
FloodBot2	sambagirl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:48
jaypro	sweet! thanks!	04:50
supreme	i have a problem with synaptic: when i open synaptic and try to open the repositories option i get a error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/205976/	04:51
supreme	im trying to find a solution unsuccessfully	04:53
cabrey	supreme, submit a bug report, that is a traceback	04:53
Gnea	supreme: how are you running synaptic? from a menu?	04:55
raylu	jaypro: also, why do you need ftp?	04:55
supreme	do i report a bug with "ubuntu-bug synaptic" right?	04:55
freedumMan	is it possible to make a jailed ssh upload with certain chmod permissions	04:55
stroyan	supreme: That looks a lot like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/364092	04:55
cabrey	supreme, already submitted go and add yourself to the people affected	04:56
cabrey	thanks stroyan	04:57
supreme	thanks, im checking stroyan solution	04:57
bullgard4	'~$ ekiga -d 4 > ~/tmp/ekiga.log20090629' obtained a log of 0 bytes length because I terminated this command using the 'Ctrl+C' command. How to end it properly for a log content >0?	04:57
jaypro	raylu: why? just for the basic reasons why anyone would want an ftp server... transfer files	04:57
tntc	hey, what package contains the actual drivers for sound?	04:58
tntc	the snd-hda-intel driver specifically	04:58
raylu	jaypro: but ftp is insecure. passwords are transmitted in cleartext	04:58
raylu	jaypro: consider scp/sftp	04:58
Dday	How do i check if my songbird is a .deb?	04:58
jaypro	raylu oh i read someplace scp is not that great for transferring multiple files at once... that not true?	04:59
raylu	jaypro: m...not that i know of. i use it all the time	05:00
dragon_	jaypro: i strongly doubt that statement.	05:00
dragon_	jaypro: i'd prefer rsync though.	05:00
raylu	jaypro: on my lan, i use ftp because it's a bit faster and i'm not worried about security internally	05:00
jaypro	hrmm...	05:00
zx6renvy	hey everyone	05:00
brokenframe	hey, does someone know of any easy-to-use program to set up an ssh server?	05:00
jaypro	well, also i need to deal with macs and windows... so that kind throws out scp anyways	05:00
dragon_	brokenframe: sudo apt-get install openssh-server	05:01
mobi-sheep	!ssh \| brokenframe	05:01
ubottu	brokenframe: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for client usage. Putty is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)	05:01
jaypro	unless you guys know of a program that would work	05:01
brokenframe	!ssh	05:01
zx6renvy	couldnt tell ya jaypro, never needed to do that	05:01
brokenframe	hm	05:01
bastidrazor	jaypro, ssh for mac and winscp for windows	05:01
brokenframe	k that was fast, thanks	05:02
dragon_	jaypro: there is an ssh server for windows called WinSSHD. Check out the bitvise tunnelier's website for details.	05:02
parker	Test connection.	05:02
dragon_	parker: Test failed.	05:03
dragon_	:P	05:03
lecram_wise	hey	05:03
dragon_	lecram_wise: hey buddy	05:03
Mitsunari	Let's pose this question here as well... I recently (read: last night) installed Ubuntu Studio on my Parckard Bell Easynote r4350. Everything else seems to be in order, except for the volume control hotkeys. Pressing once seems to get them stuck, ie. firing off continuously. In addition, this makes me unable to click anything on the gui itself, including the start-menu. However, the buttons work on launched programs such as Pidgin or Mo	05:03
dragon_	haha parker actually believed what i said.	05:03
raylu	jaypro: also, filezilla for windows	05:03
raylu	jaypro: and psftp/pscp	05:03
dragon_	!volume	05:03
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about volume	05:03
dragon_	err	05:04
Mitsunari	!volume	05:04
jaypro	oh wow! okay cool... thanks everyone	05:04
dragon_	!hotkeys \| Mitsunari	05:04
ubottu	Mitsunari: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts	05:04
LargePrime	Greetings. Got a strange Problem. Firefox spell checker is the issue. Upon a misspelled word, If the right click KEY is pressed FF does not suggest a word. If the MOUSE is Right Clicked on the word, it suggests a word. The FF guys are wondering if it is a "Ubuntu Customization" Issue. Any Ideas?	05:04
raylu	LargePrime: right-click key? the thing between right-alt and right-ctrl?	05:05
zx6renvy	what version do you have?	05:05
dragon_	LargePrime: possibly Ubuntu isn't firing an event that would have been fired otherwise.	05:05
dragon_	LargePrime: tried disabling "Ubuntu Modification Pack" plugin in Firefox?	05:05
LargePrime	raylu: yep zx6renvy 8.10 dragon_ I will now	05:06
AceBlade159	i am tryin to install ubuntu on a machine using an nForce 4 Ultra AMD chipset and i can't get it to see my hard drives on an alternate install (my video card will not allow me to boot a live cd)\	05:06
sergey_	всем привет	05:07
LargePrime	reboothing FF	05:07
raylu	LargePrime: the thing is, that key isn't a right-click key...	05:07
cabrey	!ru \| sergey_	05:07
ubottu	sergey_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke	05:07
bazhang	sergey_, #ubuntu-ru	05:07
AceBlade159	i was able to see the drives on a live cd on an older VC	05:07
bullgard4	sergey_: Hello!	05:07
unitheory	hello, i have a "Blank CD-R Disc" icon on my desktop but there's no blank disc in my drive. how to I fix it?	05:07
LargePrime	shift f10 key	05:07
LargePrime	raylu:	05:08
raylu	LargePrime: huh?	05:08
sergey_	nicht feschteje	05:08
LargePrime	but it acts as	05:08
dragon_	cabrey: how did you know that was russian? o.O	05:08
cabrey	dragon_, magic :P no look at the host	05:08
sergey_	guten tag ? mei liebe freund	05:08
LargePrime	raylu: the menu (Shift f10) key is the proper name I think	05:08
raylu	LargePrime: !de \| sergey_	05:08
dragon_	cabrey: ah cool	05:08
raylu	oops.	05:08
raylu	!de \| sergey_	05:09
ubottu	sergey_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.	05:09
bazhang	sergey_, English here only	05:09
AceBlade159	anybody have any ideas?	05:09
raylu	LargePrime: indeed, it's a menu key	05:09
SirMoo	APT-GET Install error... "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource Temporarily unavailable) - What do I do? I got this after trying to install apt-get sun-java, then I got a liscnese page and it did not allow me to do anything else.	05:09
LargePrime	it pops the right click menu	05:09
cabrey	SirMoo, one package manager opened at a time	05:09
LargePrime	OK restarted FF with Ubuntu Mod disabled. same	05:10
myxo	why does it seem like all of the .iso's i download say they are too large for the burnable CD's i have? =(	05:10
SirMoo	cabrey, thats not my main problem, just one at the moment. D=	05:10
SirMoo	Mmkay, package manager closed and I'm still getting it.	05:11
dragon_	LargePrime: then it's not Ubuntu's modifications causing trouble, possibly.	05:11
unitheory	so no one knows how to eject a disc that doesn't exist but gnome thinks it does?	05:11
LargePrime	heh	05:11
LargePrime	F guys blame Ubuntu	05:11
raylu	LargePrime: ...obviously. the issue is that the menu key opens the menu for the ui element that currently has focus, which is a textbox	05:11
SirMoo	How do I tell the java install to stop, I've tried restarting, but that achived nothing.	05:11
LargePrime	not the word	05:11
raylu	LargePrime: which is completely working as intended. the menu key is not a replacement for right-click	05:11
LargePrime	it is generally. did you try it	05:11
AceBlade159	any help please? i'm desperate	05:11
cabrey	unitheory, that version of ubuntu?	05:11
unitheory	cabrey, what version? 9.04	05:12
raylu	AceBlade159: i'm not sure how the alternate install works. can you get a shell?	05:12
myxo	has anyone else ever had the issue of having CD's that their computer tells them are too small to burn iso's specifically designed for CDs?	05:12
cabrey	unitheory, yea sorry have you tried logging out/back in?	05:12
badboy_	hi all	05:12
AceBlade159	i beleive i can	05:12
dragon_	!ask \| AceBlade159	05:13
ubottu	AceBlade159: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	05:13
unitheory	cabrey, i was hoping not to have to resort to that sort of thing..	05:13
badboy_	anyone speak portuguese ?	05:13
raylu	AceBlade159: ok, do so and run "sudo fdisk -l"	05:13
bazhang	!pt \| badboy_	05:13
ubottu	badboy_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	05:13
dragon_	oh you asked already.. had to scroll long way back.	05:13
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sdeb	hi , is it possible to install ubuntu from source like gentoo ?	05:14
raylu	sdeb: you mean install ubuntu packages from source like gentoo? no	05:14
bullgard4	sdeb: Not advisable: Too much work.	05:14
badboy_	ty	05:14
sdeb	raylu: no imean install the whole system	05:15
raylu	sdeb: it's not like you can install all of gentoo from source either	05:15
* SirMoo pouts.		05:15
SirMoo	No help to as why I can't install things?	05:15
sdeb	bullgard4: i know , but i want system under control	05:16
stroyan	sdeb: You can get source and rebuild it using "apt-get source package; apt-get builddep package; debuild"	05:16
sdeb	my*	05:16
elli	hai	05:16
raylu	SirMoo: what package manager were you using?	05:16
unitheory	cabrey, are you contemplating a solution or should i just restart? :[	05:16
SirMoo	I was using sudo apt-get on Kubuntu. (I'd try their irc, but hardly anyone is around. )	05:16
cabrey	unitheory, try logging out then back in first	05:16
sdeb	stroyan: even the base package ?	05:16
AceBlade159	i have a regular cd, how would i get to the shell from there	05:16
raylu	SirMoo: pgrep -l apt-get	05:16
badboy_	can anybarry help me i dont have audio im my pc and i'm dont know how use commands	05:17
raylu	AceBlade159: on a non-alternate install cd, applications > accessories > terminal or alt+f2, gnome-terminal	05:17
SirMoo	Rylu: 3848 apt-get	05:17
raylu	SirMoo: do you still have that open somewhere, by any chance?	05:17
stroyan	sdeb: I just build packages that I want to tweak or debug. I haven't tried rebuilding every single package. Why would you want to?	05:18
SirMoo	Raylu, How? I've restarted my computer twice since then.	05:18
raylu	SirMoo: then apt-get wouldn't be running	05:18
raylu	SirMoo: or, at least, the apt-get that you ran two restarts ago wouldn't	05:18
SirMoo	Yes, but now I can't install anything. D=	05:18
bullgard4	sdeb: You cannot have every detail "under control" in Linux because your livespan will not extend over 100 years. Try to focus on the important things and not on every detail.	05:18
sdeb	stroyan: to learn everything , and to the full control	05:19
raylu	SirMoo: yes, but figure out why apt-get is running now	05:19
SirMoo	Raylu, thats why I'm confused. It should not be running... and no windows are open other then the terminal.	05:19
sdeb	bullgard4: you right , but i will enjoy for that :)	05:19
bullgard4	sdeb: s/livespan/lifespan/	05:19
stroyan	sdeb: "everything" keeps getting bigger and bigger. ;-)	05:20
raylu	SirMoo: it could be some automatic update checker	05:20
AceBlade159	anyway to get to terminal without a gui enviroment? i can't boot a live cd because of my graphics card	05:20
cabrey	AceBlade159, safe graphics mode	05:20
raylu	SirMoo: try running pgrep again, see if it's still running now	05:20
badboy_	anyone know how make audio in my asus A7K	05:20
cabrey	AceBlade159, F4 or F6 on livecd	05:20
AceBlade159	thanks	05:20
cirabisi	hkello everyone	05:20
RequinB4	AceBlade: safe graphics mode, or if you can't do that install with an alt cd and go from there	05:20
farooq	/join #rubyonrails	05:20
badboy_	hello cirabisi	05:20
cirabisi	could i get some help?	05:20
cabrey	!ask	05:21
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	05:21
bullgard4	!sound \| badboy_	05:21
ubottu	badboy_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	05:21
SirMoo	Yup. Still running, Raylu.	05:21
raylu	SirMoo: i suppose you could just "sudo kill 3848"	05:21
cirabisi	lol	05:21
SirMoo	I shall try.	05:21
cirabisi	well i want to make a usb startup/boot disc but i dont have a live cd, i used wubi, and i dont know where to find the .iso, im in xubuntu	05:22
sdeb	ok , another question , anaconda is powerfull installer , why ubuntu is not use it ?	05:22
SirMoo	This all came from trying to install sun-java. It would not allow me to do anything after, and just had a liscnese and said OK at the bottom.	05:22
raylu	SirMoo: you have to use the arrow keys or tab to accept it	05:22
bazhang	sdeb, a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic	05:22
raylu	SirMoo: there was a bug in older versions of ubuntu that didn't allow the user to accept it, but it's been fixed since then	05:23
cirabisi	.	05:23
SirMoo	This is the most modern version of Kubuntu.	05:23
cirabisi	???	05:24
raylu	cirabisi: wait, what does being on wubi have to do with this? if you haven't yet downloaded an iso, i suggest getting yourself a copy of unetbootin and proceeding from there	05:24
unitheory	cirabisi, you need either an .iso or a livecd	05:24
cirabisi	ok.	05:24
sdeb	bazhang: this not off topic ,	05:24
cirabisi	is this only for help? just curious, got on cuz im bored and wanted to talk :P	05:25
AceBlade159	just ran "sudo fdisk -l nothing happened	05:25
bazhang	cirabisi, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat	05:25
raylu	AceBlade159: where'd you run this command?	05:25
cirabisi	ty	05:25
AceBlade159	terminal	05:26
raylu	AceBlade159: could you be more specific?	05:26
sdeb	AceBlade159: parted is more friendly : sudo parted -l /dev/sda	05:26
AceBlade159	raylu: Applications > Accessories > Terminal	05:27
AceBlade159	sdeb: i'll try that thanks	05:27
raylu	AceBlade159: i'm guessing you're using safe graphics mode?	05:27
AceBlade159	indeed	05:27
sdeb	i love ubuntu , can i have a cloak ?	05:28
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bazhang	!cloak > sdeb	05:28
ubottu	sdeb, please see my private message	05:28
Efrain	lol	05:28
maxagaz	how to set a new hostname of a computer using command line ?	05:28
andi	fuck	05:28
lstarnes	!hostname \| maxagaz	05:28
ubottu	maxagaz: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at System > Administration > Networking on the "General" tab	05:28
supreme	!cloak	05:28
ubottu	Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks	05:28
sdeb	bazhang: checking	05:29
maxagaz	lstarnes, thanks	05:29
bReakmYfaLL	Hello when is irssi 0.8.13 going to be added on repositry	05:29
bazhang	sdeb, help in #freenode	05:29
AceBlade159	sdb: response 'Usage: parted [hlmsv] [DEVICE [COMMAND [PARAMETERS]]...]'	05:29
unitheory	bReakmYfaLL, only major bug fixes or security updates are added to the repos. otherwise you have to wait for the next ubuntu release	05:30
lstarnes	bReakmYfaLL: it should be there in 9.10	05:30
sdeb	AceBlade159: sudo parted -l	05:30
AceBlade159	oh, oops	05:30
bazhang	sdeb, parted is not for that	05:31
bReakmYfaLL	ohi tried to cofigure from source but i got this error configure: error: GLIB is required to build irssi.	05:31
bReakmYfaLL	But i have GLIB	05:31
lstarnes	bReakmYfaLL: but not the -dev packages	05:31
sdeb	bazhang: so for what ?	05:32
ctmjr	AceBlade159: looking at what you ran "sudo fdisk -l you need to remove the " from in front off sudo	05:32
bReakmYfaLL	is it libglibc-dev	05:32
AceBlade159	unable to open read-write... opend as read only	05:32
bReakmYfaLL	or is it libglib-dev	05:32
reduz	hey guys, is it possible to remove alsa/pulseaudio/etc from ubuntu and install 4front OSS ?	05:32
bazhang	AceBlade159, use sudo fdisk -l not parted	05:32
causasui	Can someone here help me set up pureftpd?	05:32
AceBlade159	i used "" to seperate my command from the rest of my text	05:32
lstarnes	bReakmYfaLL: libglib2.0-dev	05:33
AceBlade159	and nothing is seeing the disks	05:33
bazhang	AceBlade159, no quotes	05:33
AceBlade159	they are sata	05:33
AceBlade159	bazhang: i know, i'm pretty good with windows, i'm trying to learn more linux	05:34
stroyan	bReakmYfaLL: You can use "sudo apt-get build-dep irssi" to get the build dependency packages for the current irssi package.	05:34
donaldo	hello	05:34
bReakmYfaLL	i am sorry but what is that	05:34
bReakmYfaLL	:s	05:34
lstarnes	bReakmYfaLL: that will install the packages needed to build irssi	05:35
AceBlade159	any special drivers i have to load for my chipset? (nVidia NF4Ultra)	05:35
bReakmYfaLL	for the latest version 0.8.13?	05:35
ctmjr	reduz yes go to their web site they have a how to	05:35
lstarnes	bReakmYfaLL: or at least the version in the repos	05:35
lstarnes	bReakmYfaLL: the dependencies for 0.8.13 are probably the same or similar to 0.8.12	05:35
reduz	ctmjr, but does it work?	05:35
stroyan	bReakmYfaLL: The dependency data is for the version in the repos. But it probably has not changed in the next version.	05:35
bReakmYfaLL	i c	05:36
bReakmYfaLL	let me try	05:36
pvh_sa	heya... i've got an ubuntu 9.04 machine that keeps rebooting spontaneously but seemingly only when transmission is running. nothing in the logs - is there some way i can get a crash dump or something so i know why its rebooting?	05:36
ctmjr	reduz: it works for me on intrepid with intel on board sound you need to check the compatibility list	05:37
sdeb	bazhang: are kidding me , check output : http://pastebin.com/d366c59d0	05:37
largeprime	hey	05:37
unitheory	pvh_sa, transmission is rather lacking in features, is using another bittorrent client an option?	05:39
pvh_sa	unitheory, i really don't think the bittorrent client is the source of my reboots - its triggering something else which is causing kernel panics... just want to know if there is some kind of "crash dump saving" feature in linux/ubuntu	05:40
largeprime	OK so my problem is with FF on Ubutu. the menu shift f10 key is not suggesting misspelled words in a text box in FF	05:41
julian__	hey all!!!	05:42
unitheory	pvh_sa, i would suggest another client first. but there are plenty of logs you can view in system > administration > log file viewer	05:42
julian__	some knows how to install KDE 3.5 on 9.04???????????????	05:42
flanders	How can I create a script that runs upon bootup (even before a user logs into a session) that requires root privileges?	05:42
rww	!startup \| flanders	05:42
ubottu	flanders: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot	05:42
Galaxor	So, I've just moved to Jaunty. For some reason now, my wireless doesn't work unless the network-manager is running. Which means I can't get on the internet when X11 isn't running. I do all the things I used to do: iwconfig wlan0 essid blah, dhclient wlan0. iwconfig always says that it's "Not Associated" with the AP, and the log always says "associated" then "disassociated by local choice (reason=3)" immediately.	05:43
flanders	ubottu: I want it to start before a user logs into a session.	05:43
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:43
Galaxor	What happened?	05:43
rww	!boot \| flanders	05:43
ubottu	flanders: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto	05:43
rww	flanders: (sorry !startup was the wrong one)	05:43
julian__	someone knows how to install KDE 3.5 on 9.04???***	05:43
flanders	It's cool.	05:43
rww	julian__: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty	05:43
R_YoYo_R	julian__, there is a guide somewhere	05:44
stroyan	pvh_sa: You could explore kdump as provided by the kexec-tools package. But I don't see a how-to on that with a few google searches.	05:44
AceBlade159	i am tryin to install ubuntu on a machine using an nForce 4 Ultra AMD chipset and i can't get it to see my hard drives	05:44
rww	julian__: I think there's a process for installing it on an existing Jaunty install somewhere, too, but I can't seem to find it.	05:44
Galaxor	I don't know how to get more debugging info from the wireless driver. Is there something I can cat to a file in /sys or something?	05:45
AceBlade159	some help please	05:45
bReakmYfaLL	hi if i install irssi from source will it overwrite my .irssi folder	05:45
R_YoYo_R	bReakmYfaLL, backup first?	05:45
bReakmYfaLL	oie	05:46
bReakmYfaLL	okie*	05:46
unitheory	bReakmYfaLL, it shouldn't	05:46
rww	bReakmYfaLL: it's possible that the new version of irssi uses incompatible settings, so I'd back it up first if I were you.	05:46
aaqil	how to give a clear, cute fonts etc look to my firefox as it is in windows	05:46
julian__	rww: thanx	05:46
startbox	Hey Guys! is there anyway I could get a syslog server?	05:47
Galaxor	Or is there a doc that says what reason=3 is? Google is not forthcoming.	05:47
aaqil	How to edit grub loader timer?	05:47
va_cute	jmv jhcigvou	05:47
SpicyLemon	How do I stop my mic input from coming out my speakers?	05:47
aaqil	unplug mic	05:48
Daskreech	hi aaqil	05:48
aaqil	Daskreech, :D welcome	05:48
unitheory	aaqil, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst or ust the package startupmanager	05:48
R_YoYo_R	SpicyLemon, alsoconf or volume manager maybe?	05:48
Daskreech	Shallom :)	05:48
SpicyLemon	I've poked around with alsamixer, I'll give alsaconf a look-see	05:49
aaqil	shallom, Daskreech how to edit that menu.lst ? with full command	05:49
Daskreech	Anyone wants to help unscrew up some nvidia borkup?	05:49
flanders	I understand how using hdparm you can change the idle time before the hard drive goes to sleep. However, is there a way to keep the drive asleep, even while using the mouse/keyboard (until disk access is required)?	05:49
Daskreech	aaqil: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst	05:49
flanders	I ask this because I do not need the hard drive running while I am reading documents or PDFs, but I use the mouse to scroll the pages.	05:49
unitheory	aaqil, if you don't know how to edit configuration files you should use startupmanager instead	05:50
Daskreech	flanders: You probably want it running then	05:50
aaqil	unitheory, where is that startupmanager in my xfce	05:50
flanders	But the document is loaded into memory, Daskreech.	05:50
Daskreech	Yes but some of the memory is on the hard rive	05:51
unitheory	aaqil, you have to install it	05:51
flanders	Regardless, do you know of a way to keep the drive asleep, even while using the mouse/keyboard?	05:51
aaqil	ok i install with sudo apt-get install startupmanager	05:51
Daskreech	Not off hand since it's generally a bad idea but I suppose you could just set very restrictive as in 150 ms sleep times	05:51
bReakmYfaLL	Thank You ALL fo the support	05:52
ERG1959	ubuntu.irc	05:52
unitheory	aaqil, it will be in the system menu	05:52
AceBlade159	my apoligies i may be getting annoying but i really need my computer	05:52
Daskreech	Anyone wants to help set up an nvidia system?	05:52
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Daskreech	AceBlade159: What's the issue?	05:52
AceBlade159	i am tryin to install ubuntu on a machine using an nForce 4 Ultra AMD chipset and i can't get it to see my hard drives\	05:52
AceBlade159	thank you	05:52
Daskreech	AceBlade159: what's leading you to beleive that?	05:52
R_YoYo_R	AceBlade159, what type drives are they?	05:53
unitheory	AceBlade159, the fdisk command give you an output, correct?	05:53
AceBlade159	nothin is reported in fdisk	05:53
unitheory	heheh	05:53
startbox	can anyone help me setup a syslog server?	05:53
AceBlade159	*nothing	05:53
AceBlade159	and sorry, they are sata	05:53
Daskreech	AceBlade159: What's the command that you were using?	05:53
Spherous	I need help reinstalling grub off of a ubuntu live cd after a windows installation	05:53
aaqil	wo wo wo wo I have configured startup manager successfully	05:54
AceBlade159	sudo fdisk -l	05:54
Daskreech	!grub \| Spherous	05:54
ubottu	Spherous: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	05:54
hemanth	ubuntu 9.04 running on low graphics , drivers mismatch for VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]	05:54
Spherous	Daskreech: I already tried that, I couldn't get it to work	05:54
Daskreech	Spherous: Then you have larger problems	05:54
Spherous	Daskreech: How so?	05:55
Daskreech	AceBlade159: what's ls /dev/sd* say ?	05:55
WIGGMPk	Whats the average turn around time (from the time you submit the bug) for someone to fix a bug submitted in launchpad????	05:55
AceBlade159	one moment	05:55
Daskreech	Spherous: that's pretty much supposed to work	05:55
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Years	05:55
arbgeek	hello all	05:55
R_YoYo_R	WIGGMPk, all depends man	05:55
caffeinated	hi arbgeek	05:55
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: you cant be serious?? years?	05:55
Spherous	Daskreech: care to help then? I couldn't figure it out, followed it step by step, but it errors, I guess I can't figure out which partition is correct	05:55
WIGGMPk	R_YoYo_R: on what? its a regression of the firmware for a CD/DVD drive..	05:56
sasori2501	hello all. is there anyway to list the kernels that have been installed on this machine??	05:56
Daskreech	Spherous: what error?	05:56
Spherous	Daskreech: I'll pastebin it, one second	05:56
AceBlade159	daskreech: sorry, what do you mean?	05:56
WIGGMPk	R_YoYo_R: Daskreech: better question.. whats the turn around time for someone to actually acknowledge the bug and change the status from New to something, and from Undecided to important.. ???	05:56
myxo	hey guys, setting up a ubuntu installation, should i encrypt home directory?	05:57
Daskreech	sasori2501: sudo dpkg -l \| grep linux-image	05:57
Xuzz	I need some help here with dual monitors and xrandr	05:57
Daskreech	AceBlade159: With what?	05:57
R_YoYo_R	WIGGMPk, its like fixing a bug for anything .... they figure in how many people this will effect ... the severity of the bug etc	05:57
startbox	!finger	05:57
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about finger	05:57
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Probably pretty short	05:57
Daskreech	myxo: If you want it encrypted	05:57
sasori2501	Daskreech: excellent. thank you. now, is there anyway i can force this system to ignore its current kernel and use one of the ones in the past???	05:58
AceBlade159	Daskreech: ls /dev/sd*	05:58
lstarnes	myxo: unless you require extra security, you don't need to	05:58
myxo	daskreech i dont think it matters either way. i chose not to do it to avoid complications in the future	05:58
myxo	istarnes alrighty	05:58
myxo	istarnes thats what i thought, i didnt do it	05:58
Daskreech	sasori2501: Press esc at the startup when it says press esc Then choose one of the old ones	05:58
Daskreech	AceBlade159: What does that show ?	05:58
lstarnes	myxo: I usually encrypt sensitive documents individually with gpg	05:58
Xuzz	I'm on a GMA950 with a max canvas size of 2048x2028 (for acceleration)...and I have my two monitors positioned "top-of" each other (in xrandr, they are side by side physically). I want to make them appear to X stacked on top but be able to use them as if they were positioned side by side in xrandr (isntead of having to have the mouse go off the top of the screen to switch)	05:59
Daskreech	do you get an output for that command?	05:59
Spherous	Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/m4fefad22	05:59
myxo	i'm putting Ubuntu on my brothers PC, who is going to afghanistan for quiet a while, any essential programs you guys would recommend for someone who rarely if ever has the internet?	05:59
AceBlade159	Daskreech: /dev/sda	05:59
WIGGMPk	R_YoYo_R: meanwhile how to a burn a CD/DVD ??? what workaround could I use? because honestly.. not being able to burn a CD/DVD is a pretty big freakin deal.. and should be trivial to fix.. this is frustrating.. I either roll back my entire OS to a previous release or not burn anything..	05:59
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Daskreech	AceBlade159: That's it?	05:59
AceBlade159	yes, it's yellow with a black highlight	06:00
test-sheep	myxo: How can he carry the PC? Laptop?	06:00
sasori2501	Daskreech: hmm. sorry im not exactly sure what your referring too... o wait... maybe i think i know, ok, let me try that out, brb, thank you!	06:01
WIGGMPk	R_YoYo_R: is there a way to expedite or bring the bug to someone's attention.. cause it just looks like its sitting there?	06:01
Daskreech	Spherous: this is Wubi ?	06:01
R_YoYo_R	WIGGMPk, i apologize i didnt see your original problem. What is it? There is ALWAYS a fix for stuff like thatr	06:01
WIGGMPk	listen to me.. I sound like I want commercial tech support lmfao	06:01
Spherous	Daskreech: Hmm? Wubi?	06:02
Daskreech	AceBlade159: Then yep it's not reading the hard drives :)	06:02
sdeb	!anaconda \| sdeb	06:02
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about anaconda	06:02
WIGGMPk	R_YoYo_R: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvd+rw-tools/+bug/307477 take a look at your leisure	06:02
R_YoYo_R	k	06:02
Daskreech	Spherous: why is it that you are mounting the windows partition?	06:02
sdeb	!upstream	06:02
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about upstream	06:02
myxo	test-sheep laptop yes. he likes to do a lot of photo editting, takes a lot of RAW piictures	06:02
Spherous	Daskreech: its my primary partition	06:03
AceBlade159	Daskreech: any idea's on how to make it see them	06:03
sdeb	!debian-installer	06:03
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	06:03
WIGGMPk	R_YoYo_R: btw.. I would be more inclined to believe its not only the dvd+rw-tools package, but the kernel drivers for the drive itself	06:03
Daskreech	AceBlade159: Do you get any errors when you are booting up?	06:03
sdeb	!cloak	06:03
ubottu	Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks	06:03
Daskreech	Spherous: You don't have a / partition ?	06:03
R_YoYo_R	WIGGMPk, i agree	06:04
sdeb	!ubottu	06:04
ubottu	Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	06:04
unitheory	sdeb, open a dialog with ubottu if you want to test out commands, not here please	06:04
R_YoYo_R	WIGGMPk, this is a bug between distros as well. ...	06:04
AceBlade159	4 total, 2 for each drive, i cant remember what they said, but i do remember it was errorno -5	06:04
Spherous	Daskreech: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by a / partition... I haven't used ubuntu for a while, and I am kinda rusty	06:04
Daskreech	Anyone wants to help fix a X issue?	06:04
sdeb	unitheory: iam very sorry , and thank u	06:04
test-sheep	myxo: F-Spot, Inkscape, Bunch of photos, PDFs of books to read on laptop. I don't know if he'll have time to commit to learn how to use fspot, inkscape, etc, but he probably would read books or something relaxing.	06:04
WIGGMPk	R_YoYo_R: its been chillin in launchpad for 6+ months though.. which is irritating	06:04
WIGGMPk	R_YoYo_R: no CD/DVD burning is like saying.. "Hey, we launched a brand spankin new OS today.. It's awesome... But oh, btw.. .You cant use USB ports.. Yeah... Sorry...."	06:05
rootlinuxusr	http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showpost.php?p=19793&postcount=4 How can I get that running - it works from terminal but not in pidgin itself. Tried setting it as senicon.sh /usr/local/bin/senicon.sh et al. same effect - nothing.	06:05
Daskreech	Spherous: Try mounting /dev/sda3 where you are mounting /dev/sda2	06:05
Panoramix	What is the best equivalent for adobe flash 10 in ubuntu? :o	06:06
rootlinuxusr	gnash or adobe flash?	06:06
test-sheep	Panoramix: Adobe Flash 10?	06:06
Daskreech	Panoramix: Adobe Flash?	06:06
unitheory	Panoramix, adobe flash 10	06:06
myxo	test-sheep alritey. are there any commands i need to run on a fresh ubuntu installation? the computer I'm currently using is the first install i've ever done, his will be my second.	06:06
test-sheep	"What? Omg. *nix can run Adobe Flash? O rly? Yes rly!"	06:07
Panoramix	u know... Program for creating swf :)	06:07
Daskreech	Anyone wants to help unbork an nvidia attack?	06:07
Daskreech	Panoramix: Ah That's different. Probably the same answer though	06:07
WIGGMPk	ha.... unbork	06:07
Spherous	Daskreech: Same error	06:08
mobi-sheep	myxo: Updated + Upgrade already?	06:08
Daskreech	Spherous: is there a stage1 in that directory ?	06:08
Panoramix	So, is there any adobe flash ubuntu?	06:08
AceBlade159	Daskreech: what do you mean "unbork an nvidia attack: ?	06:08
Spherous	Daskreech: Not that I can see	06:08
Xuzz	I'm on a GMA950 with a max canvas size of 2048x2028 (for acceleration)...and I have my two monitors (on a laptop, one is the built in screen one is VGA) positioned "top-of" each other (in xrandr, they are side by side physically). I want to make them appear to X stacked on top (to fit in the max canvas size for compiz) but be able to use them as if they were positioned side by side in xrandr (isntead of having to have the mouse go off the top of the screen t	06:09
Xuzz	o switch)	06:09
Daskreech	AceBlade159: nvidia drivers are stopping X from starting. I want help it undo that and get the drivers working	06:09
WIGGMPk	AceBlade159: use your imagination.. Daskreech: did you try running the nvidia updater for xorg.. I think its nvidia-xconfig?	06:09
anathematic	any recommendations for software to monitor my memory usage over a period of time on a ubuntu server?	06:10
Daskreech	Spherous: In /boot/grub I have a file named stage1. You don't?	06:10
mobi-sheep	Panoramix: You're talking about running Flash?	06:10
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: you should prolly post your xorg.conf in pastebin	06:10
Daskreech	mobi-sheep: No making flash movies	06:10
AceBlade159	Daskreech: odd, when i had an install back when i had a working ide drive i had no problm with x starting (i'm on a gts 8800)	06:10
Spherous	Daskreech: It can't access /boot/grub, says theres no such file or directory	06:11
Daskreech	Oh I didn't either until I installed the nvidia drivers	06:11
Daskreech	Spherous: Where did you mount /dev/sda3 ?	06:11
Panoramix	Running flash and creating flash	06:11
Spherous	Daskreech: /media/root	06:11
Spherous	Daskreech: Just like you said	06:11
Daskreech	Panoramix: most likely run Adobe Flash 10 under wine	06:11
mobi-sheep	Panoramix: You know ActionScript?	06:12
Daskreech	Spherous: then you mounted /dev/sda1 as /media/root/boot ?	06:12
Panoramix	Isnt it too heavy?	06:12
Spherous	Daskreech: Correct	06:12
Daskreech	Panoramix: Yes but it's a windows program what do you expect?	06:12
Panoramix	I am starting to learn it	06:13
Daskreech	Spherous: and under /media/root/boot/grub is there a stage1 ?	06:13
Spherous	Daskreech: Yes, there is one there	06:13
badboy_	:(	06:13
Daskreech	Spherous: and stage2?	06:14
Spherous	Daskreech: Correct	06:14
myxo	graaahhhh, darnit, why is everything always super difficult? ubuntu livedisc wouldnt work on my brohters pc.... so i ran the altdisc.... worked.... now after the ubuntu splash (pre-OS) does its little loading thing, the screen just remains blackkk...... sigh	06:14
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Spherous	Daskreech: Should I try sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root/boot /dev/sda instead of having the root-directory being /media/root	06:14
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: http://pastebin.com/ff9a6c00	06:14
mobi-sheep	myxo: Did you enable the hardware drivers and that happened right away?	06:15
Daskreech	Ermmm	06:15
krabe	what does virtual rack mean?	06:15
_Tristan	when I run top what does "Cpu(s): 10.5% us, 3.4% sy, 0.0% ni, 84.9% id, 1.3% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si" mean?	06:15
Daskreech	I think that wouldn't work but can't hurt to try	06:15
myxo	mobi-sheep i haven't gotten the chance to boot into the OS yet	06:15
johnnyblazen	hi i just upgraded to xp from vista lol i have 2 hdd's and when i installed xp it wiped out the grub i got the grub boot list to work again but it still shows vista on the list and i cant get it to show xp so i cant boot into windows anyone got any ideas	06:15
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: did you just recently run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" cause your not even using the nvidia driver	06:15
Daskreech	myxo: you tried safe graphics mode ?	06:15
myxo	daskreech how do i go into that mode?	06:15
Spherous	Daskreech: Nah, didn't work. Tried to add an extra /boot. so it was like /boot/boot lol	06:16
Daskreech	_Tristan: read the manual for top	06:16
mobi-sheep	myxo: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-reconfigure-x-windows-system-xorg-server/	06:16
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Crap yea but it's still not booting :(	06:16
_Tristan	Daskreech: ...thats a goddamn brilliant idea >.<	06:16
mobi-sheep	myxo: Second option --> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg	06:16
tanath	i've lost sound. can anyone help?	06:16
johnnyblazen	<johnnyblazen> hi i just upgraded to xp from vista lol i have 2 hdd's and when i installed xp it wiped out the grub i got the grub boot list to work again but it still shows vista on the list and i cant get it to show xp so i cant boot into windows anyone got any ideas	06:16
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: what did you do or change before it stopped? like upgrade the kernel, reinstall the modules etc?	06:16
badboy_	all i need is audio ;(	06:17
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: X still is on a start loop starts fails starts again 30 seconds later fails etc	06:17
tanath	usually rebooting fixes is, 'cause it's some app 'hogging' the sound card, but i've rebooted twice now, and still no sound	06:17
tanath	*it	06:17
Daskreech	johnnyblazen: point the chainloader to XP	06:17
myxo	mobi-sheep i don't understand how i'm supposed to do this on a black screen? ctrl+alt+f2?	06:17
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Ran sudo nvidia-config	06:17
Gh057hun73r	I have an OLD ATi rage pro AGP vide card, I need drivers for it, even 2D is slow to the point that dragging a small window like xchat drops frames, how do I fix the driver in ubuntu 8.04?	06:18
Daskreech	!sound \| badboy_	06:18
ubottu	badboy_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	06:18
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: did you try "sudo nvidia-xconfig"	06:18
mobi-sheep	myxo: CTRL + ALT + [F1-F6] -- Try that. Pick any one of those FX.	06:18
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Yeah tha's what stopped X working	06:18
tanath	i've also tried playing with everything in the Sound Prefs, but still no sound	06:18
Daskreech	(I presume)	06:18
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: note the X in "nvidia-xconfig"	06:19
myxo	mobi-sheep and if it remains black and unresponsive?	06:19
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Ah umm >_>	06:19
Daskreech	no	06:19
mobi-sheep	myxo: Are you online on same machine we're to configure on?	06:19
Hoss	anyone know of an app to manage favorite TV channel streams? I am not looking for a frontend for a MC, but rather just an app to consolidate favorite streams.	06:19
myxo	mobi-sheep no, using two laptops, i'm on mine	06:19
mzer0	hi	06:19
johnnyblazen	brb im gonna reboot and give it a try	06:19
mobi-sheep	myxo: Okay. It won't be unresponsive either way. It's a command.	06:19
myxo	mobi-sheep this is an ASUS, had no problems like this, toshiba satellite isn't so easy	06:20
mobi-sheep	Hoss: Boxee / XBMC? >_>	06:20
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: nope failed to load modules type1 freetype nvidia	06:20
wapko	myxo : try to press 'esc' in grub and [e]dit the kernel line, remove quiet and splash, press enter and then b to boot with the new line, nothing is saved.. just to see what errors there are	06:20
mobi-sheep	!tv \| Hoss	06:20
ubottu	Hoss: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), Kaffeine, kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Me-TV (GNOME), Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out	06:20
mobi-sheep	Hoss: Not quite same thing.	06:20
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: that's all kernel stuff so I might need to reboot	06:21
myxo	wapko ok	06:21
Hoss	mobi-sheep: These seem more like media center solutions. Wouldnt either Boxee or XBMC be a bit more than what I need?	06:21
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: restarting the x server should be the same.. as long as the module is already compiled and running... try "lsmod \| grep nvidia" if its not there.. sudo modprobe nvidia	06:22
dethray	Alright, ubuntu is all configured how I want it, virtualbox is on, now what else can I do for fun... :P	06:22
tanath	was there a recent update that affects sound?	06:22
tanath	i don't have sound anymore	06:22
lstarnes	tanath: for which version of ubuntu?	06:22
tanath	9.04	06:22
WIGGMPk	dethray: fix this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvd+rw-tools/+bug/307477	06:22
mobi-sheep	Hoss: You could always use a regular web browser and use Hulu.	06:22
Hoss	dethray: Try getting a Zune to work in VB. That will keep your gears spinning for a while.	06:22
Gh057hun73r	need driver for Ati rage pro in 8.04	06:23
tanath	lstarnes, i've tried all kinds of things, but still no sound >.<	06:23
myxo	wapko i don't see splash but i got rid of quiet	06:23
dethray	Hehe	06:23
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: fatal error nvidia not found	06:23
johnnyblazen	no luck	06:23
dethray	Send me a zune, I will get right on it... :P	06:23
Hoss	mobi-sheep: Yeah, thing is I want access through a centeral app not only to Fox.	06:23
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: figures.. you running jaunty?? i assume your using the 180 revision of the nvidia module?	06:23
Hoss	dethray: lol, I am installing VMware against my wishes to get mine to work.	06:23
Daskreech	Gh057hun73r: That's should be supported by the radeon driver	06:23
tanath	lstarnes, in case you missed it: ubuntu 9.04	06:24
Spherous	Daskreech: Do you think this whole "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." message is causing the problem?	06:24
Daskreech	no the 96 I was using 173 but that seemed to stop X workin ala nvidia-config	06:24
myxo	wapko after the splash screen it just remains black.	06:24
Daskreech	Spherous: That's quite worrying to me but I don't know enough to be vocally worried	06:24
Gh057hun73r	I dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it didnt even ask me what driver to use, just wanted me to configure my KB.. how do I get ALL the options back?	06:25
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: ^^^^	06:25
myxo	mobi-sheep it must not even be booting, because none of the f1-f6 did anything, just sat black.	06:25
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: alright.. gimme a second.. you need to remove the package and reinstall it.. happened to me.. I think its a DKMS problem	06:25
Daskreech	myxo: Ah you got a splash thats good	06:25
TheNewGuy	hello	06:25
myxo	daskreech yea, thats all i get though	06:25
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: So go ahead and purge 96 ?	06:25
Hoss	mobi-sheep: You cant think of a light weight streaming manager app that I could try out? Again, I wont be streaming this feed to any other machines, it will all be viewed locally.	06:25
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: 1 sec.. Ill get the package names for you	06:26
Spherous	Daskreech: Do you think there is anyway for me to back up whats on my windows partition to my linux partition via the live cd, then grab the info I want after a reformat of my windows partition from my linux partition and repartitioning my drives to wipe linux off and give windows all 350GBs?	06:26
mobi-sheep	Hoss: You're talking about web-based streaming or video streaming?	06:26
TheNewGuy	I got a simple question... I down loaded java... how do I install it? I using the latest Ubutu. Brand new to linux	06:26
Hoss	hweb-based	06:26
Hoss	mobi-sheep: Web-based	06:26
johnnyblazen	can anyone give me some advice i need to know how to change the grub boot loader list how do i do this	06:26
wapko	myxo, k. i was hoping to get rid of the splash to see whats wrong with it. now im all out.	06:26
hateball	!java \| TheNewGuy	06:26
ubottu	TheNewGuy: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository	06:26
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: just purged dkms as well	06:27
Daskreech	!java \| TheNewGuy	06:27
myxo	wapko there are 4 lines to choose. one begins with uuid, other with kernel, other with initrd, and last with quiet	06:27
tanath	TheNewGuy, there are java packages in the official repository. you can install java from the repos via Synaptic package manager: System > Admin > Synaptic	06:27
jerroome	jonnyblazen /boot/grub/menu.lst	06:27
mobi-sheep	Hoss: Well, VLC have this thing where you can stream the video you have. But if you're talking about watching TV shows from Internet. I'd say Hulu or something relatively close. Also, use a different (light) browser.	06:27
johnnyblazen	can anyone give me some advice i need to know how to change the grub boot loader list how do i do this	06:27
myxo	wapko got rid of quiet, the others didnt seem like they'd be a splash	06:27
wapko	myxo. its supposed to be the kernel line	06:27
R_YoYo_R	johnnyblazen, change order?	06:27
Hoss	mobi-sheep: Lighter than firefox?	06:27
jerroome	!ask \| jonnyblazen	06:27
ubottu	jonnyblazen: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	06:27
tanath	can anyone help me get sound back?	06:27
Daskreech	johnnyblazen: edit the menu.lst file	06:28
Daskreech	!sound \| tanath	06:28
ubottu	tanath: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	06:28
tanath	something (a recent update maybe) eliminated sound on my system	06:28
mobi-sheep	Hoss: Yup. Using it solely for web streaming. A clean interface too.	06:28
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-96 nvidia-common nvidia-96-kernel-source nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-96-libvdpau" you shouldnt need to purge DKMS.. but oh well.. not sure if there is a nvidia-96-libvdpau package but its worth a shot	06:28
myxo	wapko ahhh, i got it this time	06:28
Hoss	mobi-sheep: Have you had a chance to mess with Boxee?	06:28
wapko	myxo. great. now u should be able to see where it borks	06:29
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: done	06:29
mobi-sheep	Hoss: No. We spoke about this last night, didn't we?	06:29
TheNewGuy	anyone know how to install java ? i down loaded it from java.com.	06:29
TheNewGuy	I have it in my down load list	06:29
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: and just install them again.. should take care of it.. let me know (restarting would be best and I think required)	06:29
R_YoYo_R	TheNewGuy, !java	06:29
TheNewGuy	but I have no idea what to do with it.	06:29
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: look at what ubottu just said to you	06:29
myxo	wapko i thought you might say that, but all it did was spam spam spam spam and now its black lol, no errors	06:29
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: ah wait	06:29
myxo	wapko i'm confused	06:29
R_YoYo_R	!java	06:29
ubottu	To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository	06:29
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: you should prolly get rid of nvidia-settings too (although it might of went with everything else)	06:30
Spherous	Does anyone think there is anyway for me to back up whats on my windows partition to my linux partition via the live cd, then grab the info I want after a reformat of my windows partition from my linux partition and repartitioning my drives to wipe linux off and give windows all 350GBs?	06:30
TheNewGuy	I did... I am brand new with this... I don't even know what it is saying... sedo???	06:30
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: sudo	06:30
R_YoYo_R	Spherous, explain it better... your explanation confuses me	06:30
Hoss	mobi-sheep: I thought I spoke with someone named nimja or something. Dont recall. I love what I have seen from Boxee, but it just seems provides more than what I need for a desktop machine.	06:31
R_YoYo_R	Spherous, why not just partition windows too have all 350?	06:31
TheNewGuy	ok, sudo, what is that? do I need it to install java?	06:31
mobi-sheep	Hoss: What is it exactly you're looking for? Surfing Hulu on Firefox isn't satisfactory?	06:31
Spherous	R_YoYo_R: I can't seem to reinstall grub, and I need to save info from my windows partition before I reformat, plus I need info off of my linux partition after the reformat	06:31
tyler_d	thats awesome TheNewGuy	06:31
R_YoYo_R	Spherous, i dont get the whole transfer to linux part deal	06:31
R_YoYo_R	Spherous, re-installing grub is tit .. why cant you reinstall?	06:32
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: yeah essentially. it changes your permissions to allow you to interfere with the system. In this case by installing Java	06:32
wapko	myxo. are you able to ctrl+alt+f1 while it shows the splash or scrolling text	06:32
overlord	Can anyone tell me how do i convert a .flv file to .3gp ?	06:32
Spherous	R_YoYo_R: I keep getting an error saying it can't read stage1 correctly. Daskreech was helping me, but couldn't figure it out	06:32
myxo	wapko i can restart by forcing power off then try during scrolling text	06:32
Daskreech	overlord: mencoder I'd bet	06:33
overlord	Daskreech: thanks	06:33
Daskreech	Spherous: which page were you following?	06:33
TheNewGuy	Dask is there a linux primer on the net... one designed for beginners?	06:33
wapko	myxo. maybe try the recovery mode and see if you can get in the system	06:33
Spherous	Daskreech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub	06:33
R_YoYo_R	Spherous, you have to boot the live cd and reinstall it from there	06:33
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: :-) Quite a lot but lets walk you through this. Go into your settings menu and look for synaptic	06:34
Spherous	R_YoYo_R: I am booted into the live cd, if I was on my linux partition, I wouldn't have a problem, lol	06:34
Hoss	myxo: Download ERD commander might be able to help you recover files. Shot in the dark.	06:34
badboy_	** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **	06:34
badboy_	card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC660-VD Analog [ALC660-VD Analog]	06:34
badboy_	Subdevices: 1/1	06:34
badboy_	Subdevice #0: subdevice #0	06:34
badboy_	card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]	06:34
FloodBot2	badboy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:34
badboy_	Subdevices: 1/1	06:34
myxo	wapko ctrl alt f1 didn't work too well during scrolling text, all i managed to do was pause the text once lol.	06:34
R_YoYo_R	Spherous, how was i supposed to know that? dick.	06:34
myxo	hoss whats erd commander?	06:35
Spherous	R_YoYo_R: I said it o.o	06:35
TheNewGuy	ok, thanks. Whwere is the settings menu? I check the system and applications	06:35
Hoss	myxo: google it, its a pretty powerful recovery cd.	06:35
Daskreech	Spherous: Does your /media/root/boot look like the one on that page?	06:35
Spherous	Daskreech: No sir	06:36
myxo	hoss well. i'm pretty sure its a hardware issue considering this install is less than 5 minutes old =( havent ever successfully booted into it	06:36
Daskreech	Spherous: what's differnt?	06:36
Hoss	mobi-sheep: Yeah, Hulu is nice. I just loved the demo that I seen on Boxee about all the channels ready at the fingertip. I though maybe there was a light-weight app out there that could manage channels like that without all the other bells and whistles Boxee has to offer.	06:36
gogeta	heh just did my own custom ldxe ubuntu install	06:36
gogeta	:)	06:36
gogeta	1gb of disk space used	06:36
TheNewGuy	Dask, you mean the synaptic manager? I got it	06:36
Spherous	Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/m57a8c8b9	06:37
mobi-sheep	Hoss: Oh I thought of one tihng -- You could try a nice Firefox Addon.	06:37
gogeta	lxde	06:37
mobi-sheep	Hoss: You ever try this --> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5579	06:37
badboy_	what's wrong here ?	06:37
badboy_	http://paste.ubuntu.com/206018/	06:38
Hoss	mobi-sheep: I will definitly check it out, thanks!	06:38
Daskreech	Spherous: sudo umount /media/root/boot	06:38
mobi-sheep	Hoss: Seems like no Hulu, but lot of YouTube. ;)	06:38
Spherous	Daskreech: Okay, now what?	06:38
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Ok great. click in the list and type sun-java6	06:39
wapko	myxo, could it be acpi thats doing it.. try editing the kernel line in grub again. juat add 'acpi=off' to the ending	06:39
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: you are looking for sun-java6-jre	06:39
Daskreech	Spherous: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/root/boot	06:39
Daskreech	Now see if they match	06:39
Daskreech	or look alike	06:39
myxo	wapko trying it	06:40
TheNewGuy	the version is 6.4 file name is jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin. but I don't know where it down loaded to.	06:40
Spherous	Daskreech: I ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda with nothing mounted in /media/root/boot and it worked o.o They should fix that in the guide	06:40
Daskreech	Spherous: err,	06:40
Daskreech	wat's the output of ls /media/root/boot ?	06:40
Daskreech	is there something there?	06:41
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Ping	06:41
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: work?	06:41
Spherous	Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/m11a88cc4	06:41
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: No	06:41
myxo	wapko acpi=off didn't work lol, anyway, i think i'm just going to take the easy way out and install windows xp black on his PC.	06:41
wapko	myxo. nooo, no xp pls :P	06:42
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: hmm.. same thing.. did you update your xorg? what does the error say? failed to load nvidia module or something??	06:42
myxo	wapko i feel the saaaame way	06:42
myxo	wapko what should i do though? i don't even have anything graphically to work with after it finishes the boot text =(	06:42
Spherous	myxo: Try the Windows 7 RC1 :P its nice	06:42
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myxo	spherous windows 7 rci, whats that?	06:43
hateball	!windows	06:43
ubottu	For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents	06:43
TheNewGuy	Dask did you see my last post?	06:43
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: no I haven't tried anything yet. I've purged all nvidia stuff do I reboot now?	06:44
hateball	TheNewGuy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu enable Multiverse, then install sun-java from Synaptic	06:44
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: did you install it again??	06:45
overlord	Daskreech: Can you help me with the command to convert	06:45
myxo	wapko sorry to bother you, any last thoughts? its late and its taking its toll on me lol	06:45
TheNewGuy	Whats multiverse?	06:45
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: No	06:45
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Nope	06:45
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96 nvidia-common nvidia-96-kernel-source nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-96-libvdpau"	06:45
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: then restart.. make sure to get nvidia-settings too	06:45
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: The applications in Linux are in categories.	06:46
jumentous	hi, i've got a question about how anna works in the install process, is there a channel that handles this sort of thing	06:46
wapko	myxo, have you tried the recovery option in grub ?	06:46
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Multiverse is one of the 4	06:46
wapko	myxo: else i have no clue	06:46
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: should I try 173 again ?	06:46
TheNewGuy	is there a primer that gives the basics all at once instead of bits and pieces of it...	06:46
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: personally 180 is the newest	06:46
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: so thats what I would use	06:46
myxo	wapko yea, tried to use recovery, same junk, lol anyway maybe 9.10 will work, til then he can hold off and use xp black	06:46
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: trust me you don't want to know it all. :-)	06:47
myxo	wapko pirated windows rewritten ftw.	06:47
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Doesn't support my card	06:47
Spherous	myxo: See my pm	06:47
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: want a quick explanation?	06:47
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: ouch.. then yes.. try 173, whatever the newest is for you	06:47
myxo	spherous o, i almost missed it	06:47
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: ok	06:47
myxo	spherous is it minimal?	06:47
nomad77	!ubuntu-guide \| TheNewGuy	06:47
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-guide	06:47
TheNewGuy	I have heard so much about Linux being great. I can't believe this is the real world Linux experience.	06:47
CHACHA	HIII	06:47
TheNewGuy	Yes I would love a quick explination	06:48
overlord	Daskreech: Can you tell me how do I convert .flv to .3gp using mencoder ?	06:48
eshaase	i have two linux systems setup, how come transferring a particular file from one to another results in 11MB/s but transferring the same file in the other direction results in 3MB/s?	06:48
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Ok Ubuntu is run by a company called Canonical They offer support for Ubuntu you can pay for	06:48
Daskreech	They have a policy of preferring opensource software	06:49
Severity1	TheNewGuy, buy books from amazon	06:49
Severity1	there are plenty of those	06:49
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: So they have two types of software supported and open source	06:49
nomad77	TheNewGuy: this is unofficial but worth the read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty	06:49
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Which means they have 4 repositories. or what we call repos	06:49
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Main is supported and open source. Restricted is supported and not open source (things like drivers to make hardware work)	06:50
TheNewGuy	ok	06:50
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: There are two others universe which is not supported and open source and multiverse which is not supported and not open source	06:50
snakdoc	anyone had problems with amarok deleting files ?? i know this ubuntu channel was just woundering	06:51
TheNewGuy	ok	06:51
katte	ok	06:51
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Or rather not Free software. You can be open source and not free	06:51
katte	ok	06:51
TheNewGuy	I have the file. down loaded it from java.com	06:51
Daskreech	So java since it restricts your freedom is in Multiverse	06:51
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: what kind of file is it?	06:51
TheNewGuy	http://dl8-cdn-01.sun.com/s/ESD7/JSCDL/jdk/6u14-b08/jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin?e=1246250752043&h=41c40f8c5f64560995717db4b7ed5f76/&filename=jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin	06:52
legend2440	overlord: http://how-ubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/05/tips-how-to-convert-flv-to-3gp-in.html	06:52
TheNewGuy	.bin	06:52
overlord	legend2440: thanks mate	06:52
katte	yy puede ser un viruss	06:52
TheNewGuy	jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin	06:53
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: ok before you do that lets try the multiverse way did you enable multiverse ?	06:53
katte	hello	06:53
TheNewGuy	not yet. how do I do that.	06:53
Daskreech	you have synaptic open ?	06:54
TheNewGuy	yes	06:54
qe2eqe	My computer crashes, all the components are cool..... mouse moves choppily, but the rest of system is dead. What do I do to fix this?	06:55
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TheNewGuy	on the left side under "reload I found multmedia (multiverse) ... is that it?	06:55
TheNewGuy	ok, ... what am I looking for?	06:56
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: no it's in the menu up top	06:56
Daskreech	manage repositores I think	06:56
Daskreech	Sorry not looking at it now :-\|	06:56
qe2eqe	ok so I know how to resolve this crash -- log everything, and the last action logged before crash should be the culprit, right?	06:56
Daskreech	qe2eqe: Possibly	06:56
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: what's the menus you have at top? Do you have a manage?	06:57
TheNewGuy	I am in synaptic package manager. the only menu options I have are, file, edit, package, settings, help.	06:57
Daskreech	settings -> repositores	06:57
lysf1994	민주노조 사수하고 인간답게 살아보자 단결투쟁,생존권사수	06:58
TheNewGuy	oik	06:58
TheNewGuy	ok	06:58
Daskreech	click multiverse and universe and you can close it	06:58
Threetimes	hi, i'm copying a 200 mb directory with thousands small files to my phone (fat32). At a point it says there's not enough free space	06:58
Daskreech	It will ask to reload so reload it	06:59
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AceBlade159	nVidia nForce 4 Ultra AMD chipset, can't get sata drives to detect, help please	07:00
TheNewGuy	by default 4 are selected. Canonical-supported open source software (main)	07:00
TheNewGuy	community-maintained... Universe	07:00
AceBlade159	also is there a way to enable propritary drivrs by defualt	07:00
AceBlade159	e.g. video card	07:01
TheNewGuy	ok, i get it... selected univers and multiverse	07:01
TheNewGuy	only	07:01
TheNewGuy	Whats the next step?	07:02
TheNewGuy	i reloaded it.	07:03
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legend2440	AceBlade159: open system>administration>hardware drivers see if there are any propritary drivers available	07:04
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: install sun-java6-jre	07:04
TheNewGuy	ok, how	07:04
qe2eqe	Threetimes, is it really out of space? 200mb of data could easily be a gig if you factor in the overhead for each small file	07:04
AceBlade159	legend2440: i'm hoping for a way for the driver to be installed/enabled by defualt	07:05
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: right click it and select install	07:05
AceBlade159	any ideas on my first problem?	07:05
katte	I do not know	07:06
pvh_sa	heya, i just upgrade to ubuntu 9.04 and now my ATI Radeon 9550 video card is not being detected (i'm using the fglrx driver)	07:07
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: then click apply at the top	07:07
TheNewGuy	its not in the list	07:07
badboy_	i go back for windows :(	07:08
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: >_>	07:08
TheNewGuy	what does >-> mean?	07:08
Daskreech	what happens when you click on the list and type sun ?	07:08
chrissy_	can anybody help me with email questions	07:08
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: That's me looking to the left	07:08
TheNewGuy	i see plenty of java files	07:08
TheNewGuy	but not the one you listed which is not what I need. I need the 6.4	07:09
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: oh? and those are not available?	07:09
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: did it work? what TheNewGuy trying to install??	07:09
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: java. Needs the one from Java.com it seems	07:09
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: ok cool open a terminal and cd to where you have the .bin file	07:10
TheNewGuy	ok, I was looking under java, when I searched sun the 6.0 versions came up.	07:10
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: ^_^	07:10
chrissy_	i am looking for help with email	07:10
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: the "one" from java?? which version?	07:10
Daskreech	chrissy_: ask the question	07:10
TheNewGuy	and yes I need the one from java.com. which is the one I down loaded. I have the file. how do I install it.	07:10
Omar87	Hey there!	07:11
chrissy_	i just installed email on xubuntu and it ask me for a	07:11
TheNewGuy	ok,	07:11
chrissy_	password were do i get that	07:11
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: do what I said above with terminal then type sudo sh NAME_OF_JAVA.bin	07:11
galvonix	your password that you set on install	07:12
chrissy_	well i put that in and it woul noy	07:12
TheNewGuy	I down loaded the file. it is in my down load list. how do I find the path?	07:12
chrissy_	login it said password fail	07:12
TheNewGuy	is there a file manager in linux?	07:13
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: still dont get it.. why do you need the one from java? Daskreech: isnt the java in the repositories good enough?	07:13
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: nautilus	07:13
e[X]sodus	is this just for ubuntu specific questions? cause i'm having an issue with wine	07:13
TheNewGuy	I am running a software package that took me to the 6.4 page. 6.0 was already installed.	07:13
WIGGMPk	e[X]sodus: well... its called #ubuntu... I would try #winehq for wine specific questions	07:13
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Yeah quite a few	07:13
mwas	How do I rotate panel on desktop?	07:14
WIGGMPk	mwas: rotate panel?	07:14
e[X]sodus	thank you WIGGMPk	07:14
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Omar87	There is a file that someone told me to add in order to fix a sound problem that I was having a couple weeks ago, I'm not sure where it is. Can anybody give me a hint where to find it? 'coz I need to remove it...	07:14
* WIGGMPk guesses he will help people since I cant burn my DVD's		07:15
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: help TheNewGuy run a bin file while I reboot	07:15
nomad77	try ~/Desktop then sudo chmod a +x full-name.bin && ./foo.bin whatever the full and correct name of file	07:15
nomad77	a+x	07:15
WIGGMPk	Omar87: wow, dont be so specific Omar.. umm.. could you give us a hint on what the file was called or maybe the sound problem you had?	07:15
mike1312	Hi everybody! I ve got libdvdnav4, libdvdread4, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad и gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed as said in help but still cant play DVD. Whats wrong?	07:15
TheNewGuy	wigg, how do find the path for my down loaded file?	07:16
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Wait hold on I get a message I need to run a dkms build for kernel 2.6.28-11-server	07:16
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: What did you use to download it?	07:16
legend2440	!dvd \| mike1312	07:16
ubottu	mike1312: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	07:16
TheNewGuy	ubuntu	07:16
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: yea.. just restart.. it should auto install the module into the kernel	07:16
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: ok well then probably in your home folder	07:17
johnnyblazen	hi all i have a boot loader problem anyone shed some light on this	07:17
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: I would assume you used "firefox" which is a web browser to download the file	07:17
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: and it would be downloaded to your "default" save location... unless you changed it..	07:17
TheNewGuy	ok, what is the path? you want me to change to that directory... is there a file manager that will give me the path?	07:17
hpierce	Hi.	07:17
TheNewGuy	yes I used fire fox	07:17
hpierce	I need some help setting up a debug verison of Firefox.	07:18
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: try "cd ~/Desktop" in the terminal	07:18
hpierce	I finally have a repro for locking up my system.	07:18
ramavadakattu	after evey apt-get install iam getting the following error http://dpaste.com/hold/61032/ How to resolve this?	07:18
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: and then "ls" to list the contents of that directory.. if you saved it to the desktop.. then it should show up there	07:18
e[X]sodus	is there a way to kinda wipe ubunutu clean, but keep the packages a downloaded already? so its like a new system, but can go back and install the stuff i know i need?	07:18
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: I saw it do the dkms on reboot	07:19
e[X]sodus	i'm still learning and i'm sure i messed up along the way, shit's getting slower	07:19
Daskreech	Then I saw it fail	07:19
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: ouch..	07:19
Daskreech	!ohmy \| e[X]sodus	07:19
ubottu	e[X]sodus: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.	07:19
legend2440	mike1312: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras? if not then in terminal type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras	07:19
TheNewGuy	nothing is coming up on the list	07:19
hpierce	e[X]sodus: do you have free space on your system you can make into a partition?	07:19
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Open nautilus and look for it	07:19
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: what is the URL to the file you are trying to install.. and it would help if you could tell me why EXACTLY you need the version from java's website?	07:20
e[X]sodus	yeah, i have an untouched 750gb hdd installed	07:20
hpierce	or a DVD burner?	07:20
e[X]sodus	both	07:20
hpierce	You could put the packages on a partition.	07:20
hpierce	or a DVD drive.	07:20
hpierce	Then you have them after the fresh install and just point the installer software to it.	07:20
Omar87	WIGGMPK: Ok I the problem was that the sound system stopped working altogether after a failed attempt to switch from ALSA to OSS. But, apparently that solution didn't work. The problem is fixed now, but I believe adding that file, instead of fixing my problem, made another problem, which is that my internal and external sound speakers both work together, which is not good.	07:20
e[X]sodus	how do i do that?	07:20
TheNewGuy	I am running a web based trading applications. Charting and real time updates of FX cross rates.	07:20
mike1312	I ve got a only part of extras installed and there was a conflict	07:21
hpierce	do what? point the install to the archive location?	07:21
e[X]sodus	where are the pckages?	07:21
Omar87	WIGGMPk: Btw, this is a Laptop.	07:21
e[X]sodus	i dont even know where software installs to in this lol	07:21
hpierce	Oh... did you not save the *.deb packages?	07:21
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: and the sun-jav6 from the repos will not do what you need? what is the URL to the file you downloaded??	07:22
e[X]sodus	dude, i'm brand new	07:22
e[X]sodus	lol	07:22
WIGGMPk	Omar87: did you edit a file or create a new file?	07:22
TheNewGuy	where is the program nautilus? not listed under system or applications.	07:22
TheNewGuy	http://dl8-cdn-01.sun.com/s/ESD7/JSCDL/jdk/6u14-b08/jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin?e=1246250752043&h=41c40f8c5f64560995717db4b7ed5f76/&filename=jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin	07:22
e[X]sodus	i jumped into the deep end and got rid of windows for good, used to dual boot	07:22
tyler_d	TheNewGuy: you can find any installed application by typing in a terminal `which <<appname>>`	07:22
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: nautilus is a window manager.. a file manager.. if you hit Places > Home it opens nautilus	07:22
tyler_d	TheNewGuy: ie. which nautilus	07:22
Omar87	WIGGMPk: Created a new file, can't remember what the name was, added a couple lines into it, saved and then rebooted that machine.	07:22
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: It's under places	07:23
hpierce	e[X]sodus: ah, sorry, I misunderstood that you had the *.deb packages archieved.	07:23
TheNewGuy	thanks	07:23
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Just click anythign in places and it will open	07:23
Omar87	the* machine	07:23
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: did you change the file name when you downloaded it?	07:23
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: It's either in your home directory in documents or the desktop	07:23
WIGGMPk	Omar87: its pretty hard to determine where you would add it based on the info you gave me.. if you knew the file name it would be easier	07:24
hpierce	e[X]odus: look in /var/caches/apt/archves/*	07:24
hpierce	And e[X]odus, do you know what a *.cab file is under Windows?	07:24
TheNewGuy	ok, found it. :-)	07:25
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: not to sound rude.. but if your running a web based trading application.. that im sure involves some kind of financial commitment.. then why are you using an OS your not familiar with to run the application?	07:25
e[X]sodus	yes i know what a .cab is	07:25
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Excitement?	07:25
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: And I'm not sure how you conclude it's a financial commitement :)	07:25
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: now wherever it is.. you need to open the terminal and type.. "cd ~/path/to/the/bin/file"	07:25
hpierce	e[X]sodus: a *.deb serves a similar function.	07:25
TheNewGuy	better security. and I'm trying to learn linux... I thought ubutu would be easy enough. but everyone talks in code.	07:26
hpierce	For non-debian Linux such as Fedora or SuSE, *.rpm is the package extention.	07:26
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Yeah that's how computers are my Mom complains about the same with people who use Windows	07:26
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: talks in code? the modern OS (IE: Windows) has stupified people and we have become lazy..	07:26
TheNewGuy	I used to design software. and program a little. did not know I needed to be a pro	07:26
TheNewGuy	I agree with that wigg	07:27
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Yah don't :) But you started off by going to a website to download something WE are just playing along	07:27
tesla_	windoze?	07:27
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: you dont.. but you have to expect a learning curve.. you dont jump from a Windows PC and then just expect to know everything.. it takes time and patience..	07:27
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, Windows has trained us for Windows, which isn't dumber or smarter, just clickable. Also happens to be a great way to ensure vendor lock-in	07:27
TheNewGuy	ok, guys.. I get it. a learning curve.	07:27
TheNewGuy	how do I install the bin file. :-)	07:27
n2diy	can you use sbackup and srestore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box?	07:27
hpierce	BTW, if I sudden disapear, I am fighting a system freeze issue :)	07:28
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Umm I guess you want a GUI way?	07:28
hpierce	What is a good irc chanel for Devs?	07:28
TheNewGuy	don't care	07:28
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: I could argue this all day.. Ubuntu is very "clickable".. but I like to control my OS and hardware	07:28
TheNewGuy	I started on CPM a very long time ago.	07:28
ahughes	heya, I need a uPnP client application. Coz I want to play from my uPnP server to my ubuntu-ps3. Any suggestions :D	07:28
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: Right click it -> properties -> make it executable -> click it -> run in terminal	07:28
TheNewGuy	comand lines work fine.	07:28
tesla_	hey new guy let me give you my number one tip that made things much easier.......when using the terminal for anything TAB will auto complete things for ya.... great for error checking and long filenames	07:28
hpierce	I saw someone say they were losing Faith in Ubuntu...	07:28
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: after you navigate to the folder its saved in (in the terminal of course) run this "sudo sh jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin"	07:28
e[X]sodus	I like Ubuntu, i've tried 3 others in the past and were way over my head	07:28
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: should prompt you for a password, and just put yours in	07:29
hpierce	Ubuntu (and Linux) unlike Windows is not about faith if MS will fix it, but about knowledge and the ability to fix it.	07:29
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, Same abstract skills that make you a windows guru make you a linux guru. You spot unique and pertinent strings in error messages and outputs and google them for clues. And I'd argue that windows software suites allow for easier and more competent controll of more parts than linux...	07:29
User__	I accidentally the whole ubuntu.	07:29
Daskreech	qe2eqe: Eh?	07:29
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, because people make the 80/20 decision when writing drivers, unftly, linux is in the 20	07:29
qe2eqe	Ever gotten a driver disk with .rpms?	07:30
hpierce	ge2eqe: I come from a time before Google... I can tell you that is not the case among the talented.	07:30
TheNewGuy	ok... trying it.	07:30
Daskreech	qe2eqe: Yes actaully	07:30
e[X]sodus	linux has come such a long way in the last 5-6 years	07:30
hpierce	e[X]sodus: I agree it is much more accessible... and that is good :)	07:30
* e[X]sodus remembers the google beta lol		07:30
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: your getting out of the scope here.. drivers rely on the manufactor and are influenced by market control and the presence (and time frame) on the scene.. Linux.. written in 1994.. lots of catching up to do.. but enough of this.. its better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic	07:31
tesla_	my comment has fallen on def ears I see	07:31
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: So I have 3 missing kernel modules how do I attack this?	07:31
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, but also no, if you follow any kind of strict trust model. That same level of driver control for custom software is akin to unprotected sex in the caveish darkness of no source code.	07:31
mike1312	extras are installed, but stil cant run DVD	07:31
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: which one's are missing?	07:31
Daskreech	type1 freetype and nvidia	07:31
Daskreech	!tab \| You mean this tesla_ ?	07:32
ubottu	You mean this tesla_ ?: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.	07:32
n2diy	tesla_: tab completion has been around for awhile.	07:32
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, practical side is... out of scope? thats how you know an ideological zealot. =).	07:32
snakdoc	does any modem support linux now ?	07:32
snakdoc	without linuxant	07:32
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: out of scope = #ubuntu-offtopic	07:32
WIGGMPk	!offtopic	07:32
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	07:32
n2diy	snakdoc: what kind of modem are you refering to?	07:33
Daskreech	qe2eqe: No just that it's not giving support in a support channel you were pointed to where you can talk about it all you like	07:33
snakdoc	dial up modem	07:33
tesla_	I know but when I first started using ubuntu I had no idea comming from windoze	07:33
qe2eqe	agreeing with hpierce... its about getting dirty hands.	07:33
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: did it install for you?	07:33
n2diy	snakdoc: any externel modem will, don't know about recent internals?	07:33
qe2eqe	my bad.	07:33
snakdoc	with out special driver externals will work ?	07:34
n2diy	tesla_: ok, np.	07:34
Daskreech	snakdoc: doubtful	07:34
Daskreech	snakdoc: Oh yeah externals work fine	07:34
n2diy	tesla_: welcome to Linux/Ubuntu. :)	07:35
TheNewGuy	I stuck...	07:35
n2diy	can you use sbackup and srestore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box?	07:35
snakdoc	ok i could make my internal work with driver but was looking for one that had linux support thats all	07:35
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: running X& It throws three errors with no nvidia module being fatal	07:35
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: on?	07:35
TheNewGuy	wigg, I changed the permission	07:35
snakdoc	was looking at building server and was going to install on it thats reason i was asking	07:35
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: best bet to delete and re-download	07:36
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: You can use tab in IRC to complete names as well	07:36
snakdoc	thanks for all the help	07:36
n2diy	snakdoc: yes, they should, they are just another serial device.	07:36
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: it throws and error on install the nvidia package?	07:36
Daskreech	Yes	07:36
TheNewGuy	when I right click it to run it in terminal, terminal is not an option in the list	07:36
* WIGGMPk cant believe he resorted to proprietary software to burn DVD's		07:36
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: you trying 173?	07:36
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: try k3b	07:36
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Yes	07:36
snakdoc	problem i had was that the one i have built in was a winmodem i believe :(	07:36
Daskreech	snakdoc: if it's PCI it's a winmodem	07:37
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: I have.. Gnomebaker, growisofs, makeisofs, Brasero, etc etc etc etc	07:37
tesla_	n2diy, thanks ive been using it for almost a year but just recently have started to interact with the community	07:37
Daskreech	deeveedee ?	07:37
snakdoc	so best bet is a external and i should be in good shape ?	07:37
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: yes.. k3b, acidburn, etc	07:37
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: what package names are they?	07:38
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, happens all too often, that resorting. I got a bucket of win only hardware =(	07:38
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: just open the terminal and navigate to it the file	07:38
Daskreech	nivdia-glx-173	07:38
n2diy	tesla_: fine business, then you've missed out on a year of the best tech. support in the industry, this channel.	07:39
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: what upsets me is it worked fine in Intrepid.. and just took a dive.. either the driver or dvd+rw-tools.. cause nero linux looks like its going to fail too	07:39
tesla_	tis true	07:40
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, alot of time the difference between proprietary apps for hardware use and free.... is configuration req'd. Try and find maybe what the conf defaults in your proprietary working solution are compared to other.	07:40
TheNewGuy	wigg?	07:40
mobi-sheep	IRSSI HEAVY USERS: Is there a /set command that will not display user's hostname whenever they join/quit/ban/etc ?	07:40
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: yes?	07:40
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TheNewGuy	ok, got to the directory with the file, typed in "sudo sh jre-6u14-linux-i586.bin" it asked for my pass word. then said it can't open the file.	07:41
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, yeah, sometimes I wish synaptic was smart enough to roll back only subsections of the package tree to specific dates of known working... it probably is, i just haven't rtfm	07:41
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: its the kernel or package.. cause its failing again	07:41
TheNewGuy	when I tried it the second time, it did not ask for the password and said it could not open the file.	07:41
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: It's on a timer. When you put in your password it remembers it for 10 minutes	07:42
swetha	ctrl is not working my ubuntu 8.04..........	07:42
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, so you're dual booting this thing?	07:42
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: cause you already authenticated yourself	07:42
TheNewGuy	ok	07:42
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: did you re-download it already?	07:42
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: hell no.. =)	07:42
Xuzz	I'm on a GMA950 with a max canvas size of 2048x2028 (for acceleration)...and I have my two monitors positioned "top-of" each other (in xrandr, they are side by side physically). I want to make them appear to X stacked on top but be able to use them as if they were positioned side by side in xrandr (isntead of having to have the mouse go off the top of the screen to switch)	07:42
TheNewGuy	ok, doing that now. do I need to change the bin to EXE or something eles?	07:42
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, so what proprietary software you resortin' to?	07:42
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: no, exe is a windows only thing.. delete the file and redownload it then let me know	07:43
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: nero for linux	07:43
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: it was a test.. to see if it was the software used to burn DVD's.. but its definitely the system	07:43
n2diy	can you use sbackup and srestore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box?	07:44
ubuntu	Is there anybody here willing to help me?	07:44
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: sec, thinking.. havent forgot about you	07:44
TheNewGuy	ok, down loading now. going to take a few minutes...	07:44
ubuntu	Like I am seriously freaking out right now	07:44
n2diy	ubuntu, we can't! You haven't asked a question.	07:44
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, Well if nero did it inside the operating system... (going out on a limb here)... the kernel should be ok with burning?	07:45
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: in the meantime do you still synaptic open?	07:45
ubuntu	Bah hold on lemme change it to a proper screen name	07:45
TheNewGuy	yes	07:45
nellmathew	hey guys i'm not sure who to ask this to, but i just installed ubuntu-tweak.. and it's "package cleaner".. in "clean cache" there's about 100+ .deb packages listed.. whicih i can select and remove.. do i need these? are they there because i did a net-install?..	07:45
ubuntu	d	07:45
Daskreech	nellmathew: Yes	07:46
n2diy	nellmathew: let apt figure that out, sun sudo apt-get clean	07:46
TheNewGuy	should I close it?	07:46
Daskreech	to the last part no to the first part	07:46
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, maybe nero loads its own modules. Maybe it unloads them? Maybe it just tells whats there how to work right, or has safer settings by default.	07:46
hermitmode	http://fullcirclemagazine.org --> read read read ...	07:46
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: no try the sun-java6-jre install	07:46
nellmathew	Daskreech, thanks!	07:46
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: first try and get rid of everything again.. "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-173 nvidia-glx-96 nvidia-173-kernel-source nvidia-96-kernel-source nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-96-modaliases nvidia-common nvidia-settings"	07:47
* Daskreech waves at Cutegirl		07:47
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: sorry was typing.. nero failed to burn..	07:47
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qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, good news!	07:47
ubuntu	Bah screw changing nicks	07:47
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Here is the fun part it tells me that nvidia-common isn't installed when I grep the installed packages it says it is	07:47
Daskreech	ubuntu: type /nick somethingnew	07:48
ubuntu	Listen I was running Xp and was attempting to dual boot Ubuntu	07:48
TheNewGuy	exactly what do I type in to get a list of files in a directory? when in terminal	07:48
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WIGGMPk	Daskreech: thats fine.. just take the nvidia-common part out and try and remove all the stuff again	07:48
mrmental	There	07:48
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: ls	07:48
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, I wish you could confirm that the burner is ok hardware wise.	07:48
TheNewGuy	k	07:48
mrmental	Anyways I was trying to dual boot Xp and Ubuntu	07:48
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: i know it is.. its a brand new replacement from ASUS	07:48
n2diy	TheNewGuy: ls, ls -al, etc..	07:48
mobi-sheep	!bot \| leaf-sheep	07:49
ubottu	leaf-sheep: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	07:49
mrmental	I was in the process of installing and going through partitioning. I set it up to where 6% of my hdd would be ubuntu and the rest Cp	07:49
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: done	07:49
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: returned no errors?	07:49
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, have you googled for specific issues with linux and this guy? Firmware updates?	07:50
mrmental	It was partitioning, but was stuck at 0%, so I waited about ten minutes and then it says something along the lines of 'Failed to Partition, Action aborted'	07:50
TheNewGuy	ok, I am not in the correct desk top ... I guess.	07:50
qe2eqe	WIGGMPk, are you using a known working cable? =/ had that happen before	07:50
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Nope purged dkms and fakeroot	07:50
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: :-D who's are you in?	07:50
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: yes.. and there is a bug report opened in launchpad confirming the issue	07:51
mrmental	I say to myself 'Ok thats weird, I am just going to restart my computer and forget about linux for now'	07:51
n2diy	mrmental: how big is the hd?	07:51
mrmental	500gb	07:51
TheNewGuy	ok... I switched. wow... I am reaching back to my cpm days. can't belive I am remembering this stuff.	07:51
WIGGMPk	qe2eqe: its an internal drive.. sata for a laptop.. and yes.. dont worry about it.. I know what the problem is but cant fix it	07:51
leaf-sheep	Drive. Laptop. Ubuntu.	07:51
TheNewGuy	anyone remember the cpm operating system?	07:52
n2diy	mrmental: if your talking to me, use my nick, so it gets highlighted.	07:52
mrmental	Sorry	07:52
mrmental	n2diy: My hdd is 500gb	07:52
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: ok, you removed dkms or it auto went with.. ??	07:52
qe2eqe	hermitmode, thats a tiny little unintuitive link that says 'english'.... as the final step in retrieving issue	07:52
Daskreech	auto went	07:52
TheNewGuy	holy crapp... I'm old	07:53
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: it download yet?	07:53
mrmental	I restart my computer and go to boot Xp, it gets past the scrolling bar screen and then goes to the 'Checking C: if you wish to skip press any key now'	07:53
TheNewGuy	I think my linux has gas. it says inflating	07:53
mrmental	Then it flicks Blue Screen and restarts	07:53
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: New nick then?	07:53
TheNewGuy	down loaded and just ran it.	07:54
n2diy	mrmental: so how many gigs did your give Ubuntu? 6% is unusual, recently I partitioned, and I wasn't asked what percent to give you Ubuntu, but how many gigs?	07:54
TheNewGuy	new nick?	07:54
mrmental	About 30 gigs?	07:54
mrmental	n2diy: About 30 gigs	07:54
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: lol.. so your good now?	07:54
TheNewGuy	not sure, it ran and installed. do I need to reboot?	07:55
TheNewGuy	How can I check to see if it is installed?	07:55
n2diy	mrmental: ok, but did you tell it 30 gigs, or 6 percent?	07:55
mrmental	I run the Ubuntu live cd and go to check my hdd and it says 'Failed to Mount'	07:55
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: no need to reboot. Type java	07:55
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: or open something that uses java	07:56
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: you might have to update your alternatives...	07:56
mrmental	n2diy: I used the slider, I had it to where ubuntu had 30gigs (Up above the slider it had the percentage)	07:56
qe2eqe	mrmental, was it originally a primary partition, or extended, that you installed ubuntu to?	07:56
TheNewGuy	where do i type java?	07:57
ChrisD	Hey guys	07:57
Daskreech	terminal	07:57
n2diy	mrmental: ok, after you re-sized the partiton, did you make it bootable, format it, etc...?	07:57
qe2eqe	mrmental, also, what does fdisk say about this disk that doesn	07:57
* ChrisD needs help with eeebox display drivers (intel gma 950 i believe)		07:57
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: ok run "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove"	07:58
TheNewGuy	still showing the old version. but in terminal it came up.	07:58
ChrisD	Can anyone please help?	07:58
qe2eqe	ChrisD, state your issue?	07:58
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Did	07:58
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: in the terminal... type "sudo update-alternatives --config java"	07:58
mrmental	n2diy: Sorry but I am not quite as computer literate as I thought I was, I dont know what fdisk is. There was no option I dont think for bootable/format or anything, I just used the slider, it all looked good and I pressed 'Next'	07:58
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: then pick the one you just installed	07:58
ChrisD	qe2eqe, well, I just installed eeebuntu, but everything related to video performance lags	07:58
TheNewGuy	There is only 1 program which provides java	07:59
TheNewGuy	(/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.	07:59
ChrisD	qe2eqe, even when i switch desktops (I've got an eeebox b202, everything works out of the box, it just lags like hell)	07:59
n2diy	mrmental: that wasn't me suggesting fdisk. Ok, after you re-zized the disk, and you run next, the new partition info is displayed, right?	07:59
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: ok.. "sudo apt-get install nvidia-173-kernel-source nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-glx-173"	08:00
qe2eqe	ChrisD, open terminal, type glxinfo \| grep render	08:00
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: type "java --version"	08:00
mrmental	n2diy: No it wouldn't resize, it said 'Failed to Partition, Action Aborting'	08:00
hpierce	can someone suggest a ubuntu oriented dev channel?	08:00
qe2eqe	ChrisD, let me know the just of that line	08:00
qe2eqe	ChrisD, let me know the jist*, even, i.e., summarize it if you must	08:00
ChrisD	qe2eqe, no jist, just this "direct rendering: Yes	08:01
ChrisD	OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer	08:01
ChrisD	"	08:01
TheNewGuy	Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version	08:01
TheNewGuy	Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: version	08:01
TheNewGuy	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)	08:01
TheNewGuy	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)	08:01
TheNewGuy	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)	08:01
TheNewGuy	at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:323)	08:01
mrmental	qe2eqe: I guess it wouldn't be a secondary partition, I already had Xp installed and well in use. Most of my hdd was filled	08:01
FloodBot2	TheNewGuy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:01
qe2eqe	ChrisD, try running glxgears, does that lag?	08:01
mrmental	qe2eqe: I guess it wouldn't be a secondary partition, I already had Xp installed and well in use. Most of my hdd was filled	08:01
ChrisD	qe2eqe, 60-100 fps	08:02
qe2eqe	mrmental, hm. Did you resize the partition? Sometimes that gets bugged.	08:02
TheNewGuy	sorry.. been using linux for 4 hours. 3 hours trying to get java working	08:02
Daskreech	TheNewGuy: really/	08:02
TheNewGuy	yea... 4 hours total	08:02
Daskreech	that's unusally long	08:02
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: honestly.. its 30 million times easier installing it from the repositories	08:02
ChrisD	TheNewGuy, it should install itself in firefox	08:03
TheNewGuy	ok.	08:03
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Speaking of easier from the repos	08:03
TheNewGuy	ok,	08:03
mrmental	qe2eqe: I believe that is what I was attempting to do? I was just trying to install Ubuntu so I could dual boot Xp and Ubuntu	08:03
qe2eqe	ChrisD, I think your problem is one of two things. Either you don't understand exactly how not powerful your netbook is, or a fan or duct or something on your machine isn't working, your processor is running slower to keep from crisping.	08:03
Daskreech	reinstall a driver?	08:03
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: ok.. "sudo apt-get install nvidia-173-kernel-source nvidia-173-modaliases nvidia-glx-173"	08:03
TheNewGuy	ok, well I am don with it for now. how can I install my updates?	08:03
n2diy	hpierce: ubuntu-kernel?	08:04
qe2eqe	lol @ newguy. Too many options for java, too many...	08:04
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: do you know why you need this .bin file? EXACTLY why??	08:04
Rub	Hello!! My name is Rubén Ahumada from Mendoza. I study in institute "Nuevo Cuyo" with the teacher Sergio Alonso	08:04
ChrisD	qe2eqe, well, I ran a live cd of 6.10 on an AMD K6-2 400mhz with 384 ram and a 4 meg video card and it ran a lot smoother :(	08:04
qe2eqe	mrmental, well, I've never had an issue, but alot of things that can resize partitions also have disclaimers like 'this isn't always pretty'	08:04
redstick	Does anyone know of a repository with SNORT or int?	08:05
Daskreech	!hi \| Rub	08:05
ubottu	Rub: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	08:05
redstick	on it*	08:05
qe2eqe	ChrisD, =/. What's it?	08:05
ChrisD	qe2eqe, maybe hardware acceleration if off or something?	08:05
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: you can do updates 2 ways.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" from the command line.. or System > Administration > Update Manager	08:05
TheNewGuy	the program that I am runing sent me to the java.com to down load it because the version loaded was incorrect.	08:05
qe2eqe	ChrisD, hardware acceleration = direct rendering	08:05
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: run a dkmsbuild first	08:05
ChrisD	qe2eqe, I meant Ubuntu 6.10	08:05
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: do you personally install ANY other copies of java or any OTHER packages on your machine?	08:06
mrmental	qe2eqe: I don't know, I am just a bit frustrated right now, my hdd is failing to mount now, like when I try to access it under the live cd, it says 'Failed to Mount'	08:06
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: DKMS should do it automatically	08:06
qe2eqe	ChrisD, i mean, whats slow	08:06
Daskreech	it's not how do I do it manually?	08:06
ChrisD	qe2eqe, eh, I guess? Sorry haven't used Linux for a while now, but even xp runs a lot better, at least firefox scrolling doesn't lag like mad	08:06
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: i have no idea	08:06
TheNewGuy	no I did not install anything else... oh, I tried to install flash.	08:06
TheNewGuy	it is no long in the update manager	08:06
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: humor me for 30 mins..	08:06
ChrisD	qe2eqe, well, everything except the terminal	08:06
TheNewGuy	sure	08:07
Rub	I new in Ubuntu, i want learn much about linux and ubuntu	08:07
TheNewGuy	by the way... thanks for all the help.	08:07
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: run this in terminal.. make sure you close synaptic or update manager before this.... "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"	08:07
qe2eqe	mrmental, well, there should be at least two volumes that it lets your try to mount. If windows didn't eat linux, then the latter should be gracefully mounted. Either way, your windows should be ntfs, which sometimes has issues in linux if you don't shut your windows down proper	08:07
Rub	my english is not very good, sorry	08:07
mrmental	I mean I can paste the details as to why it cannot mount	08:07
TheNewGuy	I am going to get a basic book tomarrow... I need to learn the basics. although you guys got me pretty far. I know 100 time more now then when i started	08:08
Nicolas__	Hi! I need to Partition my Windows Partition to make a larger partition for Ubuntu. (I'm on a HP Laptop.) Does anyone know any good programs to use?	08:08
TheNewGuy	ok, what will this do wig	08:08
n2diy	hpierce: does this disk have data on it that you need to recover?	08:08
ubuntunom	Nicolas__: use Live Cd and GParted that comes with it	08:08
qe2eqe	ChrisD, I don't know what to say. I've never heard of eeebuntu. If you have an eeepc, I'd recommend modifying or at least learning defaults from the canonical eeepc distribution.	08:09
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: did you run that command?? the package name "ubuntu-restricted-extras" is called a meta package.. it will download and install a series of packages most commonly desired that are NOT included with Ubuntu (due to their philosipy or however you spell that word) including.. adobe flash, sun java jre, etc	08:09
Rub	i need basic help for somebody to approve a matter	08:09
ubuntunom	Nicolas__: u find it under system as partition manager	08:09
Nicolas__	Ubuntunom: I used Wubi to install.	08:09
tenach	Rub: what's up?	08:09
qe2eqe	mrmental, put the details over at pastebin	08:09
causasui	Can someone here help me set up pureftpd?	08:10
Rub	tenach: i study Analisis of sistems in mendoza-argentina	08:10
ubuntunom	Nicolas__: you could dload GParted Live CD then	08:10
Rub	i need teach somebody to approve me	08:10
qe2eqe	Analysis of Systems =)	08:10
ChrisD	qe2eqe, well it's a distro based on Ubuntu, it's just that they say everthing has been optimized for the eee series of netbooks, that is sort of true, everything works out of the box, even wifi, but X lags, even in Xfce4	08:10
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: says there is no source	08:10
Rub	sorry for my english	08:10
cheebz	hullo	08:10
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: trust me.. one of the first things I do when I install ubuntu.. is install ubuntu-restricted-extras first.. then I install ubuntu-tweak (which will give you tons of software to easily install from the application and give you tweaks for the system)	08:10
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: damit.. do you have the headers installed????	08:11
libtech	ChrisD: i have the same problem i think, im using a 1000he	08:11
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Umm Dunno which headers?	08:11
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: cd /usr/src and list the directory.. do you see.. "linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic" and the other one?	08:11
tenach	Rub: What do you need approved?	08:11
snakdoc	ubuntu-tweak is that package name ?	08:11
Nicolas__	ubuntunom: I heard it doesn't work good with HP. I have the gparted cd downloaded, anyway I can mount the files instead of having to burn them? I'm low on CDs.	08:11
ChrisD	libtech, yeah, something tells me I really should have went for Mandriva 2k9	08:11
causasui	Can someone here help me set up pureftpd?	08:11
WIGGMPk	snakdoc: yes.. but you need to add repositories to do it	08:11
qe2eqe	Rub, no problem, take a look at my spanish. Como podemos ayuday? (Perdona me por mi espanol terrible)	08:12
mrmental	qe2eqe: Pastebin?	08:12
snakdoc	ok i can find them	08:12
qe2eqe	ayudar* dammit	08:12
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Ah wait I needed something more for the driver support	08:12
Rub	a test of systems analysis	08:12
ChrisD	Anyways, thanks for the help guys, I'mma just try another distro or the official Ubuntu, see if those work better	08:12
ChrisD	libtech, good luck bro	08:12
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: look at this site http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ to install ubuntu-tweak.. click download and it will walk you through adding "repositories" and downloading the application.. let me know when the restricted extras get done so we can see if it fixed your issue	08:12
snakdoc	trying to restore system at moment anyway was almost done and system rebooted when i didn't wan tit to	08:12
WIGGMPk	snakdoc: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/	08:12
snakdoc	want it*	08:12
qe2eqe	mrmental, http://pastebin.com/	08:12
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: yea.. you need the kernel headers to compile it.. lmfao.. sorry its late I should of got that before	08:13
TheNewGuy	wigg it says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resources temporarily unavailable)	08:13
LiraNuna	I setuped dav_svn long time ago (~6 months ago) and it all worked until I setupped apparmor for apache2. now it doesn't work when using svn client but works on firefox or wget. disabling apparmor doesn't resolve	08:13
Daskreech	umm	08:13
Daskreech	ok	08:13
Rub	can help solve a basic problem or question?	08:13
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: do you have Synpatic Package Manager or Update Manager going??	08:13
tenach	Rub: Sure	08:13
tenach	Rub: I can try	08:13
TheNewGuy	similar thing about administration directory... "is another process using it?"	08:13
mrmental	qe2eqe: Sorry for being such a n00b but can you help me through this pastebin stuff?	08:13
SirMoo	TheNewGuy I'm having the same problem...	08:13
snakdoc	thanks i look and see hwat it has to offer	08:13
SirMoo	And nothing is running.	08:13
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: what's thepackage name for those?	08:13
WIGGMPk	SirMoo: nothing in the terminal updating or package managers installing?? TheNewGuy	08:14
SirMoo	Nope. Nothing.	08:14
TheNewGuy	not that I know of	08:14
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: what kernel you running?	08:14
SirMoo	Thts whats weird. D=	08:14
Daskreech	2.6.28-11	08:14
SirMoo	TheNewGuy, happen to try and install java by chance? >.>	08:14
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: SirMoo best to restart	08:14
TheNewGuy	I get a "hit" and then "ign" on some of them.	08:14
qe2eqe	mrmental, to conserve space in the irc channel, it's polite to put blocks of text in a url. That way I can click and look at your exact hdd mounting error, but these guys don't get hit with bookoo lines of terminalese to scroll around	08:14
SirMoo	WIGGMPk, did twice and nothing happened.	08:14
Rub	tenach you need me to do a query to get ubuntu. linux?	08:14
Rub	tenach necesito que tu me hagas una pregunta hacerca de ubuntu . linux	08:14
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic linux-headers-2.6.28-11" only get generic if your running it	08:15
Rub	para aprobar mi asignatura de sistemas operativos	08:15
qe2eqe	rub, what is the problem?	08:15
mrmental	qe2eqe: Ah ok thank you give me a second then and I will get you that url	08:15
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: nope running server	08:15
WIGGMPk	SirMoo: restarted the whole computer?	08:15
SirMoo	Yes.	08:15
SirMoo	Twice.	08:15
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: lol.. why? nvm.. well then install the base and the server	08:15
Guest51792	I am wondering how, in ubuntu 9.04, what command do I run to upgrade to kernel 2.6.28-13?	08:15
Rub	qe2eqe necesito que me hagas alguna pregunta hacerca de ubuntu para aprobar una materia de mi universidad	08:15
SirMoo	Should I try a hard restart?	08:16
WIGGMPk	SirMoo: not sure..than	08:16
WIGGMPk	SirMoo: prolly	08:16
WIGGMPk	Guest51792: sudo apt-get upgrade	08:16
neocortex	Hello! I am running Jaunty on my ThinkPad T61. Every time when I (re)boot my bluetooth is on. I unticked it in both Preferences > Startup Applications and Administration > Services. Also, I put zeros in /etc/defaults/bluetooth. In brief, how to make bluetooth off at startup, with possibility to turn it on if needed?	08:16
SirMoo	Because twice I've used the restart function.	08:16
Rub	estoy estudiando hacerca de ubuntu y mi profesor me pide que ayude a alguien a resolver un problema o responder una pregunta	08:16
snakdoc	Guest51792: sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade	08:16
Guest51792	Thanks, snakdoc	08:16
qe2eqe	rub, necesito googlar 'aprobar', 'hagar'... my spanish is poor. What is the question???	08:16
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: ok do your thing and restart so I know if im right or not lol	08:17
tenach		08:17
tenach	Usted necesita responde algunas preguntas para que su universidad adoptará Ubuntu?	08:17
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: did you restart? or fix the problem?	08:17
Daskreech	well dkms is running	08:17
Rub	iḿ not questions. i wont answer to you about ubuntu. some basic	08:17
TheNewGuy	how can I see what is running on my system. for windows I would do a "ctrl alt delet"	08:17
Rub	is a test for me	08:17
snakdoc	Guest51792: btw you have to reboot for new kernel to start working	08:17
tenach	Oh!	08:18
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: System > Administration > System Monitor	08:18
tenach	So you would like us to ask you questions to see if you can answer them?	08:18
WIGGMPk	yea.. i have to reboot now too lol	08:18
satellite	Does anyone have a TOSHIBA r500 portege	08:18
TheNewGuy	ok, going to restart.. BRB	08:18
Rub	yes!!! thank you!!	08:18
tenach	Basic questions?	08:19
mrmental	qe2eqe: http://pastebin.com/d7508fec	08:19
Rub	basic please, yes	08:19
tenach	Well, the first one I'm always asked is this: What is Ubuntu?	08:19
hermitmode	mga bisdak pang mata namo hehehe.. roflmao	08:20
snakdoc	Guest51792: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade i made a mistake if you aren't root sorry about that	08:20
flatoutN00b	how do you become root?	08:20
Rub	yes,like this tenach!	08:20
Rub	thank you	08:20
neocortex	None to help with bluetooth?	08:20
tenach	You are welcome.	08:20
snakdoc	the sudo in command will fix that for you	08:21
n2diy	flatoutN00b: sudo	08:21
hermitmode	flatoutN00b : just use sudo or you can use x root terminal...	08:21
Rub	Tenach: Ubuntu is a community developed operating system that is perfect for laptops, desktops and servers.	08:21
flatoutN00b	damn, sudo again	08:21
hermitmode	flatoutN00b : #sudo command (After that it will prompt you with your password)	08:21
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tenach	Why should I use Ubuntu, Rub?	08:22
hermitmode	flatoutN00b : #rum x root terminal if you don't want sudo	08:22
flatoutN00b	sudo appears to be my arch nemesis so far, followed closely by make files	08:22
* flatoutN00b shakes fist at make files		08:22
jota-	How can I get Jaunty server's console to display foreing chars correctly(á,ö,ñ,etc)?	08:22
Shay5482	hello , can someone recommend me on good word processor other than openoffice ?	08:22
snakdoc	flatoutN00b: you can run sudo -i and get in x root	08:22
libtech	make files are good	08:23
tenach	Shay5482: What do you use it for?	08:23
hermitmode	flatoutN00b : run gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator @ Run Application	08:23
qe2eqe	Shay5482, I'm fond of abiword, but make sure to turn on autosave because its crashy sometimes. Also huge fan of WikiDpad, but it's not really all purpose.	08:23
flatoutN00b	I have never run a make file that didn't error	08:23
mrmental	qe2eqe: Did you get that?	08:23
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Shay5482	tenach: open .rtf format (original document that saved on microsoft office ) when i open it with openoffice the document not opened well	08:23
yellabs	dual screen look really funny	08:24
yellabs	:)	08:24
qe2eqe	mrmental, yeah, checking now. Was busy googling spanish verbs.	08:24
snakdoc	flatoutN00b: after time those go away because you are missing files that are need to build project after time you start to collect them	08:24
gatto	Shay5482 use .doc ext.	08:24
Rub	because is a software free, for you community friendly. Ubuntu is by far the best Linux variant available today for hardware recognition.	08:24
mrmental	qe2eqe: Take your time, any help is appreciated	08:24
flatoutN00b	been trying to install aircrack, but aircrack seems to require openssl, so after three hours I figured out how to install openssl, but apparently I did it wrong because aircrack still says the directories don't exist	08:25
* flatoutN00b shakes fist at make files		08:25
Rub	Easy to Dual Boot: If you’ve got an extra partition you are in luck.	08:25
snakdoc	flatoutN00b: when building project you can run sudo apt-get build-dep <APP NAME> to get it to install most the files you will need	08:25
tenach	Good job so far Rub :)	08:25
Shay5482	gatto: u mean i should save the filename in microsoft office at .doc format ?	08:25
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: X is back	08:25
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: thank god.. it worked then eh?	08:25
tenach	Will my .doc files and other Microsoft Office files work?	08:25
SirMoo	WIGGMPk the hard restart worked. =D	08:25
Daskreech	Yeah but still no pretty stuff	08:25
gatto	well	08:25
Rub	than you tenach!!!	08:25
Daskreech	well something for tomorrow	08:25
WIGGMPk	SirMoo: good to hear	08:25
xhema	why does the sound in ubuntu always have to be so painful	08:25
qe2eqe	mrmental, you're trying to mount your windows partition. We know that because NTFS is microsoft's filesystem. It means just what it says. You have two options here	08:26
Futasay	can someone please help me?	08:26
Rub	thank you for understand my problem	08:26
xhema	how many mixer items do we really need?	08:26
gatto	.doc format work with openoffice and microsoft office	08:26
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: sorry it took so long for me to think about the headers	08:26
koshari	Rub what are you basing that ubuntu is best for hardware recigition on?	08:26
qe2eqe	rub, how is it free?	08:26
mrmental	qe2eqe: Yes it would be really easy but I can't BOOT Xp, per se	08:26
Rub	and for my poor english	08:26
flatoutN00b	snakdoc: I have no idea what you said, but it sounds like it could be helpful if I understood it :-)	08:26
qe2eqe	mrmental, why can't you?	08:26
tenach	Rub: Your English is pretty good :D	08:26
gatto	.doc may more smaller then .rtf	08:26
n2diy	xhema: why would you ask a subjective question?	08:26
qe2eqe	mrmental, I like easy solutions, and that would fix it, just booting and shutting down proper	08:26
TheNewGuy	made it back.	08:26
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: well I guess im gonna compile the 2.6.30 kernel sigh why are you running the server image btw?	08:27
xhema	n2diy, how can I get my source recording working on ubuntu? it worked, but I cannot find the settings	08:27
kebomix	i installed script to convert audio extensions but , i want it to appear on right click of audio file , not to go right click >> scripts >> avconvert	08:27
snakdoc	flatoutN00b: maybe someone here thats been using ubuntu longer can explain better than i can	08:27
xhema	when n00bs use this thing, they are frustratd	08:27
Rub	Ubuntu is available free of charge and we can send you a CD of the latest version	08:27
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: awesome.. now install that package.. "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" from the command line	08:27
flatoutN00b	anyone have aircrack installed?	08:27
Rub	Ubuntu CDs contain only free software applications; we encourage you to use free and open source software	08:27
TheNewGuy	ok, was gonna ask for that... :-)	08:27
mrmental	qe2eqe: It attempts to boot, gets right past the the scrolling bar screen then it gives me soemthing like 'Checking C: Press any key to cancel' at which point it goes to a Blue Screen of Death for like 1 millisecond and the machine restarts	08:28
n2diy	xhema: what is the source, and what app. are you recording it with?	08:28
gatto	GNOME vs. XFCE what's the better?	08:28
qe2eqe	Rub, I'm very fond of the gratis and libre distinction. =/ What is the advantage of libre?	08:28
snakdoc	flatoutN00b: i use to but its been a while back whats error message use http://paste.ubuntu.com if its long	08:28
kebomix	i installed script to convert audio extensions but , i want it to appear on right click of audio file , not to go right click >> scripts >> avconvert , how to do that ?	08:28
xhema	n2diy, any app. source is a front panel mic. app is the sound recorder	08:28
Futasay	I just burnt ubuntu iso to a disc and had some trouble booting it at startup to install it and i had already made it so BIOS booted from CD before HDD so i installed the CD Boot Helper on the Ubunutu CD and now when i started it up it gave me a choice in between ubuntu and windows so i choose ubuntu then it gives me and option to go to a menu by pressing ESC	08:29
qe2eqe	Mrmental, wow, sounds bad.	08:29
TheNewGuy	ok, installing now. yikes... taking a while... only at 5%	08:29
andrew_46	gatto: Neither is better IMHO, it is a matter both of taste and resources	08:29
xhema	n2diy, ahh line in capture was on... not mic let me see	08:29
gatto	IMHO?	08:29
Futasay	and if i dont it just loads the Ubuntu screen and after that it comes up with a whole lot of I/O device errors for like 5 minutes	08:29
tenach	gatto: That depends on your taste. Try them and find out.	08:29
xhema	n2diy, how can i see what item is producing a signal?	08:29
mrmental	qe2eqe: Yeah.. could I do Option 2? Would that work?	08:29
tenach	gatto: IMHO is in my humble/honest opinion	08:29
xhema	is there a way to scan all inputs for sound?	08:29
yellabs	flatoutNOOb see private message	08:30
Futasay	then it comes up with BusyBox and thats all i can do	08:30
qe2eqe	Mrmental, yes. mount -t ntfs -3g /dev/sda1/media/disk -o force	08:30
kebomix	i got it guys , here http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/add-custom-functionality-to-nautilus-linux/	08:30
qe2eqe	Mrmental, I'm scared, tho, and might be tempted to mount read only...	08:30
Rub	GNU / Linux systems are free operating systems, meaning the software has the potential to level 4 digital freedoms, so a person can not only see the source code of the system, but may not modify, adapt to their needs and even re - circulate freely without fear.	08:30
gatto	XBMC Media Center the best!:D	08:30
mrmental	qe2eqe: In the terminal correct? What are the possible negative effects?	08:30
qe2eqe	mrmental, because if you screwed the pooch on your format, not all is lost untill you start writing more to the partition	08:30
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: its a lot of packages.. but it will be worth it..	08:31
Futasay	can someone help me???	08:31
gatto	Usally, I change the main theme	08:31
n2diy	xhema: well, you might have to create your own? I use Audacity to create sound file, and from there, I can trouble shoot the sound system.	08:31
qe2eqe	mrmental: the only limit to that question is your imagination. ;)	08:31
xhema	yes, i have audacity, but again there are so many options	08:31
gatto	say the problem	08:31
TheNewGuy	is there a list of what I am installing?	08:31
qe2eqe	mrmental: to answer your other q, yeah, in terminal	08:31
Futasay	HELP ME	08:31
gatto	Futasay say	08:32
TheNewGuy	By the way... wigg I really appreciate the help.	08:32
yellabs	Futasay, did you check the cdrom for errors?	08:32
Futasay	i cant load Ubuntu properly after the ubuntu loading screen it lists a whole lot of erros for 4-5 minutes hten only lets me use BusyBox	08:32
mrmental	qe2eqe: I really just want the files I have on the hdd, I can always just reinstall windows, but there is a lengthy amount of music files I would love to have back	08:32
yellabs	Futasay, check the cdrom for errors ...?	08:33
SirMoo	I can't seem to get Java to work. T_T	08:33
xhema	n2diy, i could create my own.	08:33
bullgard4	What do the 4 vertical bars with ascending length symbolize in the lower left status bar in Ekiga 3.2.0?	08:33
Rub	qe2eq and tenach: needed to answer questions and make screenshots of you questions to approve operating systems at my university	08:33
yellabs	Futasay, and tell us what the specs of your pc are, how much ram?	08:33
gatto	possible	08:33
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: not a problem.. I dont want you to get discouraged from linux..	08:33
Rub	tnah you very much for you help!!!!!!	08:33
xhema	but where to start. I guess I need to iterate through all options of the mixer	08:33
qe2eqe	Rub, So, I'm in luck. I want to try ubuntu, and I have that extra partition you mentioned. It's a dell/compaq/hp...	08:33
phoe6	hello, I find that if I add export PATH=/a/bin:$PATH to .bashrc and do source .bashrc the changes are not persistant. If log out of ssh session and login back again, I lose the settings. How do I make it persistant?	08:33
xhema	or add a gauge to the mixer to show if there is a signal	08:33
tvasht	is it possible to move ubuntu to the beginning of partition after removing windows from there?	08:33
gatto	IMHOxD	08:34
Futasay	Pentium 4 2.26 GHz, 1GB RAM	08:34
TheNewGuy	BRB	08:34
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: a list of what your installing.. hmm... http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-restricted-extras this might help	08:34
qe2eqe	mrmental, well, I doubt it's going to nuke anything. You can mount it as read only for the extra precaution... but I've used that command a number of times now, with no issues.	08:34
yellabs	tvasht for ubuntu it does not matter where the partition is, its not slower, so it does not matter..	08:35
gatto	Futasay desktop edition?	08:35
tenach	You are very welcome Rub!	08:35
tenach	Good luck, Rub	08:35
Futasay	Yes desktop edition	08:35
mrmental	qe2eqe: Thank you, I am going to attempt it, wish me luck	08:35
qe2eqe	mrmental, I think you would just add readonly to the end of that 'mount -t ntfs -3g /dev/sda1/media/disk -o force'	08:35
yellabs	Futasay, seems enough, so check cdrom for errors	08:35
qe2eqe	mrmental, good luck.	08:35
Rub	thank's!!	08:35
n2diy	xhema: ok, so you have a known good sound source? Then double check your sound settings, beware of little red indicators under the gain/volume sliders, they toggle mute on and off.	08:35
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: bookmark this site too.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/	08:35
gatto	try install under windows if it not work you can check other cdrom/dvdrom	08:36
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: cause if you want to play a DVD you need to install "non free" libraries.. due to digital rights lol	08:36
xhema	n2diy it works now...	08:36
xhema	thanks for listening to me	08:36
gatto	xD	08:36
Futasay	How do I check it for errors?	08:36
Rub	qe2eqe no understand your question	08:36
n2diy	x	08:36
tvasht	yellabs, ok. so keep ubuntu where it is. what would u recommend i should do to recover grub after a windows mbr repair?	08:36
qe2eqe	Rub, I plugged in a joypad, and it's not working in my game, 'the ur-quan masters'	08:36
gatto	try other cdrom to install	08:36
n2diy	xhema: cool.	08:36
tvasht	yellabs, i m installing osx leopard ubuntu and windows on a laptop	08:37
gatto	I burn 2x KUBUNTU 8.10	08:37
yellabs	grub!	08:37
gatto	because the install process mistake	08:37
mwas	WIGGMPk: yeah rotating panel	08:37
yellabs	!grub	08:37
ubottu	GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	08:37
tvasht	yellabs, how sould i do it, the sequence. cause windows in the end would screw things up in the mbr	08:37
gatto	tvasht?	08:37
tvasht	yellabs, u mean grub disk?	08:38
tvasht	gatto, what?	08:38
pedestrianentran	Im having some more joy from my favourite hosting company, Godaddy. Trying to enable ssh access to a couple of my hosting accounts. You navigate thru the awful website until you finally get to the page where you enter your phone number and click "enable". They then put an automated call to your phone and a machine reads you your pin to activate the ssh. I did that and got the phone call but the pin didn't work. Ive tried again a dozen	08:38
TheShahFactor	Any GUI FTP server for Ubuntu ?	08:38
qe2eqe	Rub, it's the only game I have that I can test the game pad on. How do I even know if the game pad is broken or not?	08:38
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: I did a server install then put on KDE 4.3 I guess	08:38
gatto	tvasht what would you do? restore Grub after windows install?	08:38
prospire	navigation in the form of drop-down is better on the top or left??	08:38
pedestrianentran	TheShahFactor: gFTP	08:39
Rub	is usb the pad game?	08:39
tvasht	gatto, i m not sure	08:39
yellabs	i think, but not shure, install windows first, them install os x, them ubuntu, but i could be wrong	08:39
cached	I have two processes with the same name. How can I figure out which pid belongs to which without risking closing them?	08:39
gatto	find /boot/grub/stage1	08:39
tvasht	yellabs, thats what i m doing but just wanted some advise on. how to restore grub	08:39
n2diy	cached: can you see them in top?	08:40
yellabs	restore grub	08:40
qe2eqe	cached, maybe you could monitor their cpu usage as you give one process load?	08:40
yellabs	!grub	08:40
cached	n2diy: yes	08:40
gatto	root (hd0,1)	08:40
lwells	Is there a way to change the shortcut Icon for web links?	08:40
tvasht	yellabs, grub will work for osx too or they have a seperate boot loader?	08:40
yellabs	grub!	08:40
gatto	setup (hd0)	08:40
yellabs	hmm?	08:40
gatto	that's all	08:40
yellabs	whats wrong with ubot	08:40
lwells	I mean so it defaults to a different one?	08:40
Rub	is important after the last Xserver(-xorg-input-*) updates to provide a dumb of lsmod to make every single Gamepad model work again	08:40
n2diy	cached: then you can see there pids.	08:40
qe2eqe	rub, yeah, it's usb. It happens to be HID-compliant.	08:41
tvasht	gatto, where will i do what u just said?	08:41
gatto	use	08:41
gatto	ubuntu live or any	08:41
ramavadakattu	while installing geos-3.1.0.tar.bz2 iam encountering the following problem http://dpaste.com/hold/61047/ any clue on how to resolve this	08:41
gatto	terminal	08:41
cached	n2diy: thanks	08:41
gatto	here write	08:41
gatto	grub	08:41
gatto	as root	08:41
cached	just making sure: kill -int is the same as Ctrl-C, right?	08:41
FloodBot2	gatto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:41
Rub	Update :	08:41
n2diy	cached: nada	08:41
Rub	According to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/274203/comments/78 Ubuntu 9.04 may not need this, and since Ubuntu isn'	08:42
Rub	going to provide the fdi files for 8.10, basically the lshal output is only necessary to tell the name of the info.product information.	08:42
cached	n2diy: then what is?	08:42
tvasht	gatto, ya carry on	08:42
n2diy	cached: ? wrong nick?	08:42
Rub	A little more searching, and I've run the following commands: sudo update-usbids	08:42
cached	n2diy: oh, i thought you responded to my other question ;)	08:42
Rub	Which updated the USB ids, but didn't change the "not working" aspect.	08:42
TheShahFactor	pedestrianentran : I want to setup an FTP server on Ubuntu ; and need a software with GUI ( not unlike CesarFTP on windows) If I am not mistaken Gftp is used for connecting to other servers right?	08:43
yellabs	tvasht : some tips from internet : http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=6575	08:43
Rub	tried the following:	08:43
Rub	cnc@cnc-control:~$ lsusb -v	08:43
Rub	cnc@cnc-control:~$ dmesg \| grep usb	08:43
Rub	[ 209.235308] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs	08:43
Rub	[ 209.235325] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub	08:43
FloodBot2	Rub: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:43
Rub	[ 209.242154] usbcore: registered new device driver usb	08:43
yellabs	tripple boot	08:43
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: Wheeeeeeeee The sex is back	08:43
pedestrianentran	TheShahFactor: yeah its a client sorry...	08:43
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: lol	08:43
TheNewGuy	ok, wigg. its loaded	08:44
Rub	oohh sorry	08:44
pedestrianentran	TheShahFactor: Try check out ubuntuguide.org they often have handy info	08:44
yellabs	tvasht : here is an other one http://pranjaldaterao.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/triple-boot-windows-vista-ubuntu-and-mac-os-x/	08:44
Daskreech	WIGGMPk: ok thanks heading to bed I have to be up in a few hours	08:44
qe2eqe	Rub, no problem. You should paste things like that to pastebin.com. The answer I was looking for was 'cat /dev/input/js0' , and see if the the not working was a result of the software or configuration.	08:45
WIGGMPk	Daskreech: gnite	08:45
qe2eqe	Rub, I'm no good at asking questions I know the answers to	08:45
whois	Hi guys	08:45
bullgard4	Ekiga 3.2.0 echos my voice if I am connected to sip:500@ekiga.net. It takes 84% of my CPU time. Is this OK? I am using an Intel Centrino Mobile Technology computer at 1.8 GHz.	08:45
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: now try out flash.. as in youtube.. and try out your java based application	08:45
whois	I just came into this channel to thank you guys	08:45
whois	the Ubuntu community is great	08:45
Daskreech	whois: Weaccept!!	08:45
whois	bye	08:45
gatto	http://paste.ubuntu.com/206052/	08:45
gatto	grub restore	08:46
gatto	may short	08:46
Rub	jeje no problem qe2eqe. Thank you for you time!!!!	08:46
mrmental	qe2eqe: It says 'mount: invalid option -- '3' '	08:46
tenach	It is no problem Rub!	08:47
qe2eqe	mrmental, lol, it was another typo in the error message. Ass should be add, and the command with ntfs- 3g should be ntfs-3g. mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1/ media/disk -o force	08:47
rawolf_	who ask about change usb ids?	08:47
qe2eqe	mrmental, that one actually needed another space between the /de	08:48
qe2eqe	mrmental, I hosed the spacing again!! mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force	08:48
n2diy	rawolf_: I don' know, but I would like to know?	08:48
qe2eqe	rawolf_, why?	08:48
rawolf_	may be a i can help	08:49
Rub	tenach and qe2eqe from Mendoza-Argentina since I send my greetings. have been very kind. thanks for being patient with newbies like me. Thank you very much. see you later	08:49
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n2diy	rawolf_: how do you change the name of a usb device?	08:49
qe2eqe	rawolf_, lol I read that in hollywood broken english. i.e. Who to ask about changing usb ids => who ask change usb id?	08:49
TheNewGuy	wigg, problem with utube	08:49
qe2eqe	Rub, Good luck.	08:49
tenach	Good bye, Rub. It was great to talk to you!	08:50
lesshaste	how do I tell if a particular package is installed?	08:50
rawolf_	Yes	08:50
Vinceman	when you have access to someones desktop, can you get into a terminal without him seeing it?	08:50
tenach	Rub: Good luck with getting your university to adopt Ubuntu!	08:50
SirMoo	Java won't work in firefox.	08:50
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: ? doesnt have flash installed or something? did you have firefox open when it finished installing?	08:50
qe2eqe	Rub, I remember an article about argentina doing something special at the government level with open source software.... and I know brazil is onto it. Just fuel for the fire.	08:50
Rub	hopefully	08:50
TheNewGuy	no	08:50
mrmental	qe2eqe: 'mount: only root can do that'	08:51
TheNewGuy	wait.. yes. I did..	08:51
n2diy	Vinceman: yes, close the door and lock it.	08:51
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: ok.. try closing it and reopening it	08:51
qe2eqe	mrmental, god I always forget that. You need to type the word sudo in front.	08:51
mrmental	Lol thank you	08:51
qe2eqe	mrmental, you're welcome. Though personally, I wasted at least 2 mins of your time by not proof reading and thinking twice about that simple command.	08:52
TheNewGuy	did that and it is saying that it need the pluggin. gstreamero.10-plugins-bad	08:52
qe2eqe	mrmental, sorry to say simple. That command.	08:52
TheNewGuy	Mpeg-4 acc decoder	08:52
Rub	if we have a medocino working for google. here are highly trained and interested in becoming a linux-gnu-ubuntu.etc	08:52
mrmental	qe2eqe: Sorry for being such a bother 'fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/disk: No such file or directory'	08:52
qe2eqe	Rub, there is a site called pastebin.com you should learn about. It's under the umbrella of IRC etiquette.	08:53
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: interesting.. go to System > Administration > Software Sources	08:53
qe2eqe	mrmental, yikes! I don't know why it would do that..... but lets try this	08:54
TheNewGuy	ok	08:54
qe2eqe	mrmental, type mkdir /mnt/sda1	08:54
qe2eqe	mrmental, or sudo mkdir, whatever	08:54
Rub	collaborative debugging tools	08:54
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: then.. make sure that (main) (universe) (restricted) (multiverse) are checked.. and click close.. might ask you to reload	08:54
qe2eqe	mrmental, then use that same last command and replace /media/disk with /mnt/sda1	08:54
miickee	I need help here with atheros wireless, on two very different laptops, not working with new ubuntu 9.04	08:55
qe2eqe	mrmental, then use that same last command and replace /media/disk with /mnt/sda1	08:55
TheNewGuy	reloading	08:55
TheNewGuy	ok, done	08:55
Rub	thanks for everything!!! I'm going to sleep. In argentina are 5:00 a.m.	08:56
mrmental	qe2eqe: Didn't really have a response, as in, my line entered, but it did not respond with any additional lines after that. Did I do it right?	08:56
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: sorry to make you do this.. but "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-restricted-extras"	08:56
qe2eqe	Rub, you're welcome. Buenos Nachos. Hasta la queso.	08:56
Rub	jajajaja!!!!	08:57
qe2eqe	Mrmental, do ls /mnt/sda1	08:57
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: im having an off night.. one of those repositories were not check were they?	08:57
n2diy	its not even 5am in London, how can it be 5am in argentina?	08:57
qe2eqe	Mrmental, do ls /mnt/sda1 \| grep cp	08:57
qe2eqe	hehe	08:57
Exploiter	heloo room	08:57
Exploiter	any assembly programmer here?	08:57
qe2eqe	mrmental, Meant to ask if you were a chan tard	08:57
SirMoo	XD qe2eqe Too me a bit to get that was nachos. I was wondering why you were talking about cheese.	08:58
TheNewGuy	yea, there were only two checked	08:58
MrObvious	Any way of disabling IPv6 on 9.04?	08:59
TheNewGuy	sent you an im so as not to spam the room	08:59
Exploiter	oink oink oink	08:59
iashwaniarora	hi everyone	08:59
tenach	Hello	08:59
hermitmode	Hello	08:59
tesla_	I am having problems with samba..... I have 2 ubuntu boxes that can see each other on and off	08:59
n2diy	hello	09:00
qe2eqe	SirMoo, =)	09:00
iashwaniarora	plz tell how to save .deb files when using apt manger	09:00
usicow	has anyone noticed that fonts in firefox look quite ugly with ubuntu?	09:00
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: k.. after your finished installing everything than try youtube again for me	09:00
qe2eqe	usicow, they look different.	09:00
tesla_	google , #samba have sort of let me down	09:00
hermitmode	iashwaniarora: you can find them at /var/cache/apt/archices	09:00
hermitmode	iashwaniarora: you can find them at /var/cache/apt/archives	09:00
hermitmode	iashwaniarora: you can find them at /var/cache/apt/archives	09:00
hermitmode	iashwaniarora: when you do apt-get	09:01
qe2eqe	usicow, however, there are few restrictions on the ms-fonts package or whatever, and it's not very hard to get those fonts you're used to in there	09:01
tesla_	cool	09:01
usicow	qe2eqe: is there a way to make them look the same as winblows?	09:01
usicow	ahh	09:01
qe2eqe	usi beat you to it. Pow!	09:01
usicow	hehe	09:01
qe2eqe	tesla_, I'm noob@samba... but can you ping these systems that aren't working? what does smbclient say about that IP?	09:02
TheNewGuy	nope, wants to find a suitable plug in	09:02
TheNewGuy	I installed it.. and it is down loading the files	09:03
TheNewGuy	was it supposed to do that?	09:03
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: is firefox giving the option for adobe flash as a plugin?	09:03
ttmrichter	Is Ubuntu 8.04LTS (emphasis on the S there) going to get the upgrade to Pidgin 2.5.7? At this point two major IM networks can't be connected to with Pidgin 2.5.2.	09:03
TheNewGuy	no	09:03
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: well the package should of downloaded the "flashplugin-nonfree" package	09:03
TheNewGuy	its installing a multimedia plugin. 17 files	09:04
flatoutN00b	I am trying to install a program using it's make file. It requires some files from OpenSSL. I installed OpenSSL and I have the files, but the program I am installing keeps telling me that I don't have the files...	09:04
TheNewGuy	gsstreamer0.10plug	09:04
tenach	ttmrichter: Go to pidgin.im and get their instructions for adding their PPA to update manager	09:04
TheNewGuy	plugins	09:04
TheNewGuy	is it supposed to be doing that?	09:04
ttmrichter	tenach: PPA?	09:04
tenach	ttmrichter: I had to do that even with 9.04	09:04
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: any of them 'flashplugin-nonfree'???	09:04
kibil	kyenezz_ce	09:04
tenach	Personal Package Archive	09:04
qe2eqe	flatoutN00b, where does program x expect to find program y?	09:05
flatoutN00b	I don't know	09:05
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: it should of been taken care of already... so no its not normal something got screwed up	09:05
mrmental	qe2eqe: I am a bit of a one, so what exactly would you like me to enter into the terminal?	09:05
flatoutN00b	I'm a moron	09:05
hermitmode	flatoutN00b : what program is that?	09:05
flatoutN00b	I'm trying to install aircrack	09:05
qe2eqe	flatoutN00b, why are you doing that by hand?	09:05
tenach	ttmrichter: Did you find it?	09:05
TheNewGuy	it is installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad	09:05
TheNewGuy	gnasherror	09:06
flatoutN00b	is thereis there a way to do it automatically?	09:06
bullgard4	What do the 4 vertical bars with ascending length symbolize in the lower left status bar in Ekiga 3.2.0?	09:06
qe2eqe	sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng	09:06
flatoutN00b	<-----notice the name	09:06
hermitmode	flatoutN00b : no you not a moron.. things always get excite sometimes... that make it fun...	09:06
qe2eqe	flatoutN00b, be a good boy with it	09:06
flatoutN00b	you're f***ing kidding me right	09:06
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: gnash is a flash player.. weird..	09:06
flatoutN00b	sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng?	09:06
qe2eqe	Flannel, it didn't used to be. I likes me some progress	09:07
qe2eqe	er, flatoutN00b, not flannel. Sorry flannel!	09:07
hermitmode	ow aircrack-ng is on the the repo?	09:07
TheNewGuy	ok, its working	09:07
TheNewGuy	sorta	09:07
qe2eqe	mrmental, did you get any response from ls /mnt/sda1 ? if so, everything is gravy	09:07
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: is it finished? if so.. run this in terminal "sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"	09:07
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: yea.. its working with GNASH player not Adobe.. its not gonna be great	09:08
qe2eqe	mrmental, and by gravy, I mean just point your file manager to /mnt/sda1	09:08
mrmental	qe2eqe: What is the exact command line for that command	09:08
qe2eqe	mrmental, ls /mnt/sda1 means 'tell me what files are in /mnt/sda1'.	09:08
TheNewGuy	the sound is out of synk:-/.... what do I do?	09:08
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: run this in terminal "sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"	09:09
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: close your browser first	09:09
tenach	ttmrichter: Did you get it?	09:09
ttmrichter	tenach: Thanks a lot for the pointer.	09:09
mrmental	qe2eqe: Yes I got a response!	09:09
tenach	No problem ttmrichter. :)	09:09
ttmrichter	tenach: Getting it all set up with my own mutant apt configuration. :D	09:09
flatoutN00b	ok, I did sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng ... now what?	09:09
qe2eqe	mrmental, therefore, gravy.	09:09
pedestrianentran	anyone use avrdude? Ive apt-get installed it but don't know where apt puts the conf file...	09:10
nixie_pixel	flatoutN00b - now it should be installed. Are you running Ubuntu?	09:10
Weust`	pedestrianentran: updatedb && locate avrdude ?	09:10
tenach	Sweet deal	09:10
TheNewGuy	ok done	09:10
flatoutN00b	I am running ubuntu 9.04 and I can't find aircrack under applications	09:10
pedestrianentran	Weust: what does that mean? the updatedb	09:10
qe2eqe	flatoutN00b, rtfm is a good idea. You'll probably want to start capturing packets asap	09:10
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: now try youtube again..	09:10
* WIGGMPk crosses fingers		09:10
Weust`	it updates the db that locate uses to search	09:11
mrmental	qe2eqe: Sweet and how would I use the file manager to access /mnt/sda1 and then move files off of my hdd onto an flashdrive?	09:11
TinyIRC	Hello everyone, I'm running into an intersting issues hooking my laptop into the local network. I am unable to ping anything outside of the network, if I try by hostname the DNS sever gives no responce, if I try IP I am told the network is unreachable.	09:11
Exploiter	any hacker in here?	09:11
qe2eqe	flatoutn00b which repositories are you browsing? go to synaptic -> settings	09:11
bullgard4	Where can one find a description of the function of the Ekiga symbol (icon) in the status bar to the left consisting of 4 vertical bars? In particular, when does it become colorful?	09:11
Weust`	TinyIRC: maybe an gateway problem	09:11
nixie_pixel	flatoutN00b - now that it is installed, go here: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php	09:11
=== TinyIRC is now known as Rolaulten
Rolaulten	Stuped exc's. Ok, I'll look into the gateway and see whats up	09:12
Rolaulten	Thanks	09:12
nixie_pixel	Exploiter - this is #ubuntu. Why are you looking for hackers here?	09:12
wanna_learn	hi all.i tried to add deb source to my ubuntu jaunty	09:12
qe2eqe	mrmental, just click places -> file system -> mnt -> sda1.... and then new window... places -> usb drive...	09:12
Exploiter	can you tell me some rooms where i can find one.	09:12
wanna_learn	when i tried to do apt-get update	09:12
wanna_learn	it happens like this	09:12
wanna_learn	W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B	09:12
wanna_learn	W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B	09:12
Weust`	Rolaulten: try a traceroute	09:12
tenach	Exploiter: Asking for a "hacker" won't get you anywhere.	09:12
FloodBot2	wanna_learn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:12
wanna_learn	can u help me?	09:13
qe2eqe	mrmental, or if you know the mount place you can get all elegant and use the cp command, (copy), cp /mnt/sda1/* /media/??????	09:13
nixie_pixel	Exploiter - just ask for what you are looking for, "hacker" is far too generic. Someone will point you in the right direction.	09:13
TheNewGuy	how can I see which driver is installed?	09:13
Weust`	TheNewGuy: driver for what ?	09:13
qe2eqe	but i know there's caveats with the copy command and can't guarantee that that would work fully... =/	09:14
TheNewGuy	wigg its working but it is not as good as windows.	09:14
Exploiter	i am looking for an assembly programmer who have good knowledge in exploiting buffer overflow vulns/.	09:14
mrmental	qe2eqe: I will just stick with the visual way of doing things but thank you so much for you time!	09:14
mrmental	qe2eqe: Now why did you ask me if I was a chan tard?	09:14
TheNewGuy	weust, did wigg logg?	09:14
Exploiter	hmm	09:14
Weust`	TheNewGuy: eh?	09:15
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: try this "sudo update-alternatives --config firefox-flashplugin"	09:15
qe2eqe	mrmental, because you made me laugh when you said 6% ubuntu and the rest cp	09:15
wanna_learn	can u help me?	09:15
wanna_learn	i tried to add debian unstable source to my apt/source.list when i tried to apt-get update it happens like this	09:15
wanna_learn	W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B	09:15
nixie_pixel	wanna_learn - you need the key from the source that you added.	09:16
TheNewGuy	ok, did it	09:16
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: did it give you an option?	09:16
iashwaniarora	i want to install all 3rd party toolslike desktop enhancement or wine or something else but i dont know there name how do i intall them or get there name	09:16
mrmental	qe2eqe: Lol that was a typo and I didn't know I had said that. Meant Xp. Closest thing to cp I have are my newborn daughters first bath pictures lmao	09:16
wanna_learn	nixie_pixel:how?	09:16
TheNewGuy	yes	09:16
TheNewGuy	I chose the one that was not gnash	09:16
mrmental	qe2eqe: Is there anyway I can remount the hdd and use windows like nothing happened?	09:17
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: k. restart firefox and give it a final go	09:17
TheNewGuy	doing it now.	09:17
qe2eqe	mrmental, i should hope so ;). Besides, I hope the van comes after you get your 400th gig in.	09:17
nixie_pixel	wanna_learn - That information should have been given to you by whoever gave you the source you added.	09:17
wanna_learn	nixie_pixel:okay	09:17
mrmental	qe2eqe: 400gb of Cp would hopefully raise a big enough flag to the feds lmao	09:17
wanna_learn	will googling	09:18
World705	is there a problem with the repository's or just me ?	09:18
iashwaniarora	can anybody plz help me	09:19
nixie_pixel	Exploiter - I would advise you to ask that question in #linux as a start, rather than #ubuntu, this distro is not designed for that type of user	09:19
=== labo4g is now known as nameless`
TheNewGuy	all right! it is in sync! nice job wigg	09:19
qe2eqe	mrmental, hard to say. I don't know why windows is crashing. Have you only ever done one install of xp on that machine?	09:19
TheNewGuy	now going to try java	09:19
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: god im tired lol.. sorry..	09:19
* WIGGMPk crosses fingers		09:19
aacosta	having some trouble with ssh	09:19
aacosta	i cant conect to a computer in my network	09:19
Witzkeks	irc://irc.dream-irc.com/xdcc	09:19
mrmental	qe2eqe: Well it had Vista when I got it a year and a half ago, I threw on xp after formatting	09:19
Weust`	aacosta: is the target computer running an ssh daemon	09:20
hermitmode	aacosta: can you ping the machine?	09:20
qe2eqe	Exploiter, there's job boards like ebay for that crap	09:20
iashwaniarora	i want to install all 3rd party toolslike desktop enhancement or wine or something else but i dont know there name how do i intall them or get there name	09:20
rikki_max	hello i am installing ldap + samba on ubuntu 8.10 using the tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAP-SambaPDC-OrgInfo-Posix and i got this error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/206073/	09:20
World705	iamtheobject: apt-get install wine	09:21
World705	?	09:21
qe2eqe	mrmental, hm. And theres ONLY two partitions all day?	09:21
hermitmode	iashwaniarora: try using ADD/REMOVE	09:21
Exploiter	haha	09:21
iashwaniarora	hermit but i dont know there name	09:21
mrmental	qe2eqe: I am not too sure, I guess I really fucked shit up trying to dual boot ubuntu, is there any possible way to find out how many partitions I have?	09:21
TheNewGuy	wigg good news. the java is working but the font is too big.	09:21
TheNewGuy	I think	09:21
hermitmode	iashwaniarora: search for wine, compiz	09:21
aacosta	its an g3 imac and an eeepc runing ubuntu	09:22
edouardp	mrmental, sudo fdisk -l	09:22
aacosta	i dont know if its a network setup issue	09:22
Garp	Hi.	09:22
Nehyx	!hi \| garp	09:22
ubottu	garp: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	09:22
qe2eqe	mrmental, yeah, easy. fdisk, gparted... eduardo nailed it	09:22
Garp	Yesterday I asked about how to maintain a machine that has no internet connection. For answer, I got:	09:22
Garp	!offline	09:22
ubottu	If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD	09:22
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: well thats good at least.. however I dont really know how to adjust the fonts.. you might try download the mscore fonts	09:22
qe2eqe	iashwaniarora, just browse the applications and search through the synaptic package manager	09:23
qe2eqe	Garp, lol.	09:23
World705	i get [waiting for headers] when trying to update or intsall anything from apt-get, can any one help ?	09:23
TheSage	Good morning channel	09:23
Garp	Such an answer was not really good. Because it doest say how to get the package list on the offline machine.	09:23
Weust`	!hi \| Weust`	09:23
ubottu	Weust`, please see my private message	09:23
hermitmode	Garp: if you have a machine connected to the internet you can copy all installed .deb @ /var/cache/apt/archives	09:23
Nehyx	Garp: you want update machine without internet, is that?	09:23
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: this is a long shot but try "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts" however I think this should of been installed already	09:23
Garp	Nehyx: yes.	09:24
TheNewGuy	this is so wierd.. ti works but I can't see everything...	09:24
Nehyx	Garp: use lts versions and download 8.04.1, 8.04.2... versions	09:24
Garp	hermitmode: copyin which /var/cache/apt/archives ?	09:24
mrmental	qe2eqe: http://pastebin.com/db50e2b4	09:24
Garp	Nehyx: the whole one ?	09:24
hermitmode	Garp: all of the *.deb files cause thats the directory apt-get install put all the package	09:25
Garp	OK, before you go further, I just found some interesting link: http://pypt-offline.sourceforge.net/	09:25
iashwaniarora	thanks a lot	09:25
Garp	does anybody ever tested this? Thanks.	09:25
qe2eqe	mrmental, wwwwwwooooooowwwwwww	09:25
TheSage	Is there a place I could get a block diagram of Ubuntu?	09:25
Jimi_Neutral	can anyone help me with a ddrescue situation please	09:25
TheNewGuy	wigg, thanks for your time. i'll have to get this working tomarrow	09:25
Garp	hermitmode: offline, I have no downloads...	09:25
mrmental	qe2eqe: I take it I royally fucked something up?	09:25
Nehyx	Garp: I always used ubuntu with internet, and if you hasn't got internet, updates are innecesary ;-)	09:26
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: you could try this too.. "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and select "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java" this might fix it	09:26
Garp	Nehyx: it fix bugs, allow for new pkgs, etc.	09:26
Nehyx	Garp: yes, but the most bugs are security	09:26
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: alright man.. have a good night.. but try those last steps.. install the msttcorefonts and change the java config	09:26
Garp	Nehyx: or enhancements.	09:27
Nehyx	Garp: and the most packets, firefox, evolution... needs internet	09:27
Garp	Nehyx: I know that a internet is good, but in that case, I dont have.	09:27
n2diy	mrmental: that is an ntfs partition, you need ext3	09:27
TheNewGuy	There is only 1 program which provides java (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.	09:27
qe2eqe	mrmental, yes.	09:27
miickee	Hey I need help with a Dell inspiron 510m and an Optus 3g mobile internet usb dongle with Ubuntu 9.04, it "connects", but we can't access a web browser	09:27
duke_	hello cant visit sites which using scripts firefox is crashing	09:27
TheNewGuy	There is only 1 program which provides java	09:27
TheNewGuy	(/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.	09:27
mrmental	qe2eqe: Is it fixable?	09:27
qe2eqe	n2diy, he's trying to dual boot	09:27
DysonReturns	greets, how do i mount a remote server's directory on my own machine?	09:28
dragger	hello, when i try to disable service i disabled one but i don't know what is it, my pc restared then when it on Login screen keyboard and mouse Stop responed	09:28
DysonReturns	both running ubuntu	09:28
qe2eqe	mrmental, Yeah. If you got a usb drive, copy all your 'doze files over there for safekeeping	09:28
Nehyx	Garp: try to install new packets from another PC, I never tested that :P	09:28
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: you need to install the package again then.. "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-restricted-extras" should do it.. (prolly cause of the packages that were missing before)	09:28
dragger	i think the Services i stoped is "System communication bus"	09:28
mrmental	qe2eqe: Ok I need to get my neighbors external hdd but that will hav eto wait until morning proper. And then?	09:29
Garp	Nehyx: well, there are a few problems. You want to be able to perform 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get upgrade'	09:29
aacosta	thats the weiredest thing i can nly ssh to my server when im on the wired network not on the wireless	09:29
TheNewGuy	ok, loaded, checking java	09:29
Garp	Nehyx: "downloading pkgs you need' is "apt-get upgrade"	09:29
Nehyx	Garp: you can buy a wifi in ebay, and go to free wifi zones :)	09:30
edouardp	aacosta, the wireless gives you the same range of IPs ? (I assume you use DHCP)	09:30
qe2eqe	mrmental, hold on, actually. I need to google and rule out the possibility that the ubuntu installer can try to install everything into an ntfs partition side by side with windows	09:30
duke_	is it because of NoScript i already passed the sites on whitelist still crashing when i connect	09:30
TheSage	Is there a place I could get a block diagram map of the Ubuntu system?	09:30
aacosta	i use dhcp on everyting except the eeepc	09:30
WIGGMPk	TheNewGuy: if it doesnt work.. then ill try and catch you tomorrow.. i can hardly stay awake right now lol sorry	09:30
edouardp	qe2eqe, I think only wubi can do that	09:30
Garp	Nehyx: If you have some money to give me,, I can have internet access ofor that machine, if you dont, we'll do without.	09:30
mrmental	qe2eqe: Well right now the installer isn't reading the hdd because I unmounted it	09:30
aacosta	because it was giving me problems with the wireless	09:30
aacosta	so i had to put in the ips manually	09:30
aacosta	jsut for this conection	09:31
TheNewGuy	hey man, THANK YOU for hanging in there with me.	09:31
qe2eqe	mrmental, fdisk always knows what partitions are around	09:31
aacosta	my home network	09:31
WIGGMPk	=)	09:31
edouardp	aacosta, the ssh server is in your LAN or on the internet ?	09:31
aacosta	it works fine when im plugged into ethernet	09:31
aacosta	LAN	09:31
dragger	need help please myh keyboard and mouse stops responed	09:31
qe2eqe	mrmental, the output of fdisk says you only have one partition	09:31
mrmental	qe2eqe: Ok	09:32
qe2eqe	mrmental, which is impossible if you installed ubuntu and still have it installed	09:32
edouardp	aacosta, can you give me the ip of the ssh server, and the ip of the client when you are on wireless ? maybe you are not on the same network	09:32
dragger	in the login screen i cannot use my keyboard or mouse >>>>>>>>>>>???????????????????	09:32
mrmental	qe2eqe: ah but I never installed ubuntu, the partitioner fucked up	09:32
qe2eqe	mrmental, oh. ok then.	09:32
mrmental	qe2eqe: Got something along the lines of 'Failed to Partition, Aborting' or something	09:33
aacosta	192.168.1.2	09:33
aacosta	192.168.1.10	09:33
qe2eqe	mrmental, hm. so if nothing happened, why did windows break?...	09:33
aytekin	hello	09:33
mrmental	qe2eqe: The hdd wasn't mounting?	09:33
duke_	somebody know where the firefox logs are then i can put logs here	09:33
duke_	maybe you can help then...	09:33
chocobanana	Hello everyone!!!!	09:33
edouardp	aacosta, ok, are you able to ping the ssh machine ?	09:33
dragger	hello, when i try to disable service i disabled one but i don't know what is it, my pc restared then when it on Login screen keyboard and mouse Stop responed	09:34
aacosta	no im not	09:34
aytekin	How can i use the tracert command in the terminal like cmd in winxp	09:34
edouardp	aacosta, and you can navigate on the internet without any problem I guess ?	09:34
Superninja	Im not too.	09:34
qe2eqe	mrmental, I don't think windows failed to mount entirely... theres only 512 bytes of program, and I don't really think thats enough for windows to fit a disk scanner that can't even find the disk	09:34
aacosta	yeah	09:34
n2diy	aytekin: traceroute?	09:35
aacosta	everything seems fine	09:35
aacosta	thats why im trippin	09:35
Superninja	yes everything seems fine	09:35
qe2eqe	mrmental, (the program is either mbr or it's on a mounted partition. )	09:35
edouardp	aacosta, it might be your router that is preventing wireless client to communicate with the rest of the lan	09:35
duke_	everyone gets help besides me kk :/	09:35
aytekin	i dont know how to like	09:35
mrmental	qe2eqe: Hmm. So perhaps I should restart and try to boot windows again?	09:35
edouardp	aacosta, I have an option in my netgear (called wireless isolation) which prevents wireless clients to see the lan, they can only access the internet	09:35
qe2eqe	mrmental, yeah. Try running in safe mode...	09:35
Superninja	Internet port is 5765, no 8796	09:36
aytekin	just i know tracert command in xp	09:36
dragger	no one can help me?????????????????????	09:36
Superninja	I can	09:36
mrmental	qe2eqe: Ok I will try and see what I can do, can I get your email incase shit hits the fan?	09:36
aacosta	i have a netgear	09:36
dragger	Superninja ?????	09:36
Superninja	???????	09:36
aacosta	where can i find that option	09:36
Superninja	What?	09:36
qe2eqe	mrmental, just using fdisk to read and rewrite the mbr.	09:36
qe2eqe	@gmail.com	09:36
Superninja	in your ass	09:36
edouardp	aacosta, ok, so log in (http://192.168.1.1) and go to wireless settings	09:37
mrmental	qe2eqe: hmm?	09:37
dragger	hello, when i try to disable service i disabled one but i don't know what is it, my pc restared then when it on Login screen keyboard and mouse Stop responed	09:37
qe2eqe	nick + that. These convos end up in google half the time, don't want the spam.	09:37
Superninja	(http://194.456.7.4)	09:37
aytekin	example i ve used in xp tracert www.example.com	09:37
Superninja	lool	09:37
Daverocks	aytekin: as n2diy said, the command in linux is "traceroute" as opposed to "tracert". you may need to do "sudo traceroute" in ubuntu	09:38
Superninja	ihq daa	09:38
Jimi_Neutral	can someone help me with a ddrecsue situation please	09:38
Superninja	IHQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ	09:38
aytekin	ok may you give me an example	09:38
Superninja	ok	09:38
aacosta	ok wireless settings	09:39
Superninja	http://www.ratemypoo.com/	09:39
edouardp	aytekin, you need to install traceroute before you can use it : sudo apt-get install traceroute	09:39
aytekin	how to be used	09:39
aytekin	ok	09:39
edouardp	aacosta, is wireless isolation checked ?	09:39
Superninja	no	09:39
aacosta	there s no such option on mine	09:39
tsimpson	!ops \| Superninja spamming/trolling	09:39
ubottu	Superninja spamming/trolling: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, , elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	09:39
Superninja	no I dont	09:40
edouardp	aacosta, do you see anything that could prevent the wireless clients to comunicate with the lan on that page ?	09:40
aacosta	nope	09:40
edouardp	:(	09:40
aacosta	under security settings i have it set to none	09:40
edouardp	aacosta, what is your netgear model ?	09:40
aacosta	wpn82.4v3	09:41
aacosta	netgear ranagemax	09:41
aacosta	rangemax	09:41
aytekin	ok it is done	09:41
edouardp	ok	09:41
Butcher	I am having a bit of a problem, I tried to start quake4, and now my screen is super zoomed in and I cannot see much, any help would be appreciated - iI think this should be a quick fix, but then again I have no idea	09:41
hermitmode	sudo they spam hehehe	09:41
neil_d	Hi, I am having trouble doing a bind mount :( I have a nfs mount drive at /media/storage and I am trying to bind mount a subdir to /home/neil/.ssh... In /etc/fstab I have "/media/storage/share/neil/.ssh /home/neil/.ssh auto bind" and in /etc/rc.local I have "mount --bind /media/storage/share/neil/.ssh /home/neil/.ssh"... but nothing is happing :( what am I doing wrong?	09:42
hermitmode	can i have dr pubip>	09:42
danilo	ciao a tutti	09:42
danilo	!list	09:42
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	09:42
jerrrooome	hi, I have a broken avi file and would like to fix it. I tried with the vlc tool, but it doesn't work. Does anyone know another tool to fix/repair avi files ?	09:42
aytekin	edouardp: it is don	09:43
edouardp	aytekin, in a terminal : traceroute google.com	09:43
aytekin	i ll try	09:43
hermitmode	jerroome: did you dowload that avi?	09:43
jerrrooome	no, I got it from a friend	09:43
Butcher	will my screen resolution fix itself if I reboot?	09:43
qe2eqe	Butcher, yes, BUT....	09:44
Twigathy	Butcher: fire up a terminal, xrandr -s 0	09:44
edouardp	aacosta, ssh server under ubuntu ?	09:44
hermitmode	jerroome: ah... vlc works very good fixing it... try updating your vlc	09:44
Jimi_Neutral	can anyone help with a ddrescue situation please	09:44
aytekin	edouardp:it is perfectly being worked	09:44
qe2eqe	xrandr... god i need to remember to put these things in my notes and not just in scripts	09:44
aytekin	thx	09:44
edouardp	aytekin, you're welcome	09:45
neil_d	Butcher: before reboot try "<ctrl><alt><backspace>" or "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"	09:45
qe2eqe	I just got so excited I touched a ram stick. oops.	09:45
kuro	how do i enable my keyboard session to type in another launage (IE: japanese. i have the fonts, i just can't get the typing part to work)	09:45
Twigathy	Butcher: and before that, try xrandr -s 0 :)	09:45
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Butcher	Twigathy, that didn't work	09:45
Twigathy	fail	09:45
Butcher	just a bit :)	09:45
jerrrooome	ohermitmode : which version do you have, I got VLC media player 0.8.6e Janus	09:45
Lexi	How do i move a folder on command line?	09:46
zaggynl	mv	09:46
jerrrooome	I installed it from the archive.ubuntu. repository	09:46
n2diy	kuro: system-prefrences-keyboard	09:46
edouardp	aacosta, do you have any other host on the network you could try to ping ? other thing to try, can you ping your wireless client from any other host from the network ?	09:46
mib486	hi guys, recently installed xubuntu on my old laptop, since it does not have an airport, in order to connect to the internet i should buy one of those usb-airport pendrives, du have any suggestion? has anyone experienced something like that and can suggest me one with the right drivers for linux etc.? thanks	09:46
kuro	n2diy: thanks ill give it a try	09:46
Daverocks	jerroome: you can also try mplayer with the -idx option	09:47
Daverocks	jerrrooome: ^^	09:47
n2diy	! hardware \| mib486	09:47
ubottu	mib486: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection	09:47
^Phantom^	Question here. Is there supposed to be constant HD activity with ubuntu?	09:47
kuro	n2diy: ahhh, im at this part. but im kinda lost. i have english as my defautl and japanese as my second keyboard layout. but i don't know hwo to switch between them	09:47
kante	guys, I'm trying to capture video from my video camera through firewire and Kino. The problem is that video and audio are BADLY unsynchronized (sorry for my English). What can I do?	09:47
^Phantom^	I've noticed my hard disk light flashing all evening now	09:47
jerrrooome	Daverocks : I will try it out	09:48
Butcher	eh - I just rebooted, it worked :D	09:48
n2diy	kuro: ok, try apps-add/remove, and look for the keyboard switcher.	09:48
^Phantom^	this constant hard disk activity is starting to worry me...	09:48
Daverocks	^Phantom^: haven't used ubuntu in some time but i really don't think so	09:48
aacosta	xubuntu	09:48
kuro	kk	09:48
kuro	n2diy: kk	09:48
Butcher	the sudo (idonotrememberwhat) got me locked at a grub themed screen	09:49
^Phantom^	i noticed it the other day too	09:49
aacosta	the other computer is off	09:49
aacosta	let me go turn it on	09:49
aacosta	macosx	09:49
Butcher	so I hit the reboot button and now all is good	09:49
Butcher	thanks though :)	09:49
Jimi_Neutral	can someone please help me with ddrescue	09:49
kante	guys, I'm trying to capture video from my video camera through firewire and Kino. The problem is that video and audio are BADLY unsynchronized (sorry for my English). What can I do?	09:50
hermitmode	jerroome: Try http://divfixpp.sourceforge.net/download.php	09:50
ttmrichter	tenach: Man, these PPAs have come out of nowhere for me. Lots of interesting stuff there I wish I'd known before. :)	09:50
n2diy	Jimi_Neutral: I doubt it, but I'm having issues with sbackup and restore, so maybe?	09:50
neil_d	Hi, I am having trouble doing a bind mount :( I have a nfs mount drive at /media/storage and I am trying to bind mount a subdir to /home/neil/.ssh... In /etc/fstab I have "/media/storage/share/neil/.ssh /home/neil/.ssh auto bind" and in /etc/rc.local I have "mount --bind /media/storage/share/neil/.ssh /home/neil/.ssh"... but nothing is happing :( what am I doing wrong?	09:50
Daverocks	!ask \| Jimi_Neutral	09:50
ubottu	Jimi_Neutral: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	09:50
hermitmode	kante: webcam model?	09:51
pedestrianentran	whats the ubuntu way to permanently add a variable to my PATH? i understand the export command won't save the change between reboots?	09:51
qe2eqe	hermitmode, i bet it's not a webcam?	09:51
hermitmode	pedestrianentran: try sudo nano /etc/environment	09:51
hermitmode	pedestrianentran: try sudo nano /etc/environment then reboot	09:51
kante	hermitmode: it's a digital cam, SOny Digital Handycam	09:51
kuro	n2diy: nothing at all :/	09:52
Jimi_Neutral	Sorry i didnt realise i did ask to ask a question....i thought i only asked one.....well i need some major help with it as i have been helped up to a point but now i need more help, so it kind of needs a private chat tbh so th room doesnt get flooded	09:52
pedestrianentran	hermitmode: Hmm i was just looking in /etc/profile	09:52
kuro	n2diy: in keyboard window. i have the hotkey switch set to alt+shift. but it does not work...	09:52
hermitmode	kante: ohhh my bad did not read it all...	09:52
n2diy	kuro: ok, right or left?	09:52
edouardp	pedestrianentran, you can look on your .bashrc/.bash_profile too	09:53
kuro	n2diy: it doesn't say in the list. just alt+shift. thats it	09:53
kante	hermitmode what d'you mean?	09:53
xarvh	just launching the 'amule' in ubuntu jaunty launches no graphical interface whatsoever... Am I launching some sort of server? If so how do I get the client?	09:53
hermitmode	kante: sorry i thought your using a webcam?	09:53
qe2eqe	hermitmode, no, not your bad. remember also he said bad english.	09:54
pedestrianentran	edouardp:thanks	09:54
hermitmode	pedestrianentran: just try sudo nano /etc/environment	09:54
ubuntu	d	09:54
kante	hermitmode: nope :) It's an ordinary digital camera, pretty old though	09:54
n2diy	kuro: ok, see if the right or left combination works. And/or right click on the panel where your clock is, and try add/remove from there.	09:54
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tenach	ttmrichter: They make life easier, don't they?	09:54
pedestrianentran	hermitmode: this is where i get a bit confused. THere seem to be so many places to change it... Which is the right one/	09:55
ttmrichter	tenach: Easier than waiting forever for backports certainly! :D	09:55
mrmental	qe2eqe: Windows is still fucked, how do I get it back to where I can view the contents of my hdd through File System?	09:55
qe2eqe	kante, if a movie doesn't play back right in a properly configured player, it's been encoded poorly. This might be a problem with the way your camera records.	09:55
Seeker`	!language \| mrmental	09:55
ubottu	mrmental: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	09:55
tenach	ttmrichter: Backports are too slow.	09:55
mrmental	ubottu: My apologies	09:55
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about My apologies	09:55
mrmental	Bah bots	09:56
Butcher	:D	09:56
xarvh	:D	09:56
pedestrianentran	:)	09:56
kante	qe2eqe: maybe.. is there any solutions? Or do I have to manually synchronize video every time I record it?	09:56
mrmental	XD	09:56
hermitmode	pedestrianentran: at the end put your additional path...	09:56
^Phantom^	I can't determine what is making the disk keep reading/writing constantly.	09:56
^Phantom^	Or is ubuntu supposed to constantly read/write to the hard drive?	09:56
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hermitmode	pedestrianentran: or you can just put your VARIABLE="" at the next linee	09:57
qe2eqe	mrmental, mkdir /mnt/sda1 && mount ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -o force	09:57
kuro	n2diy: IM HAVing problems now. i can:t use the backspace it became ] ahhh alot of my keys are switched around but still no japanese	09:57
aacosta	sorry roomate asleep	09:57
kante	^Phantom^: any torrents or ftp-servers running?	09:57
aacosta	shouldnt have let her have the imac	09:57
aacosta	bondi blue imac	09:57
aacosta	its pimp	09:57
kuro	]	09:57
hermitmode	pedestrianentran: or you can just put your VARIABLE="" at the next line Then reboot..	09:57
aacosta	macosx	09:57
jerrrooome	Daverocks : mplayer isn't able to fix it either, I get marker does not match f_code as error. Any ideas ??	09:57
^Phantom^	no...	09:57
^Phantom^	wait...	09:57
qe2eqe	mrmental, I have a hypothesis i'd like confirmed by a vet... but perhaps you could just get fdisk to rewrite the partition table	09:57
Justin15	hey everyone, can somebody help me installing the new firefox-3.5rc3.tar.bz2??	09:58
n2diy	kuro: hmm, but can you switch between japanese and your other layout? I only play with english, and english-dvorak.	09:58
svj	I need help for JeOS and keyboard mapping	09:58
kbrosnan	Justin15: extract to some place run firefox	09:58
^Phantom^	no none running	09:58
mrmental	qe2eqe: I think the spacing is wrong on your mount command? And that won't format or otherwise harm the files on my hdd if I rewrite the partition table will it?	09:58
kante	strange	09:59
Daverocks	jerrrooome: sounds like the actual stream is borked	09:59
edouardp	aacosta, :D	09:59
Dulak	mrmental: if the problem is a deleted partition, rewriting the partition table will not restore files	09:59
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aacosta	haha yeah i also have a imac snow	09:59
hermitmode	hermitmode will goto sagemode --- gtg guys... UBUNTU ROCKS HARD	09:59
qe2eqe	mrmental, mkdir /mnt/sda1 && mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -o force	09:59
jerrrooome	that's what I'm afraid of	09:59
aacosta	this one im using running jaunty	09:59
^Phantom^	i think it's been doing it for a couple of days now...	09:59
jacatone	could someone help me set up a new account using xchat?	09:59
jerrrooome	however, ty	09:59
Daverocks	^Phantom^: try using lsof and iostat to determine what the culprit is	09:59
^Phantom^	k	10:00
kuro	n2diy: i dont: think i ever enable japanese keyboard, but i was messing around with one of the settings. and thats why i backspace got changed. but still no japanese	10:00
qe2eqe	mrmental, yeah, it's possible. if you can wait till morning and back it up first, I'd do that	10:00
Justin15	kbrosnan:thank you very much i didn't think about it :)	10:00
^Phantom^	woah	10:00
^Phantom^	lonnnnnnnng list :S	10:01
svj	dpkg reconfigure console setup does not change my keyboard layout. Any ideas on how to change to danish qwerty keyboard latin1	10:01
qe2eqe	mrmental, but even if you do erase your partition table, your data should be mostly safe, although you could lose file names.	10:01
Daverocks	jerrrooome: np, i'm not a video person though, try asking in #mplayer #ffmpeg or #videolan	10:01
mrmental	qe2eqe: Yeah I would like to back up everything that needs be and then I can try the partition table rewrite. Perhaps I will through in my Xp Recovery Cd for safe measure too	10:01
qe2eqe	mrmental, safe as in recoverable, but not friendly.	10:01
mrmental	qe2eqe: well that is good to head	10:01
n2diy	kuro: ok, if you didn't enable japanese keyboard, how do you expect to switch to it? Anyway, 5am here, going to bed, gl.	10:01
mrmental	**hear	10:01
^Phantom^	i'll pastebin the iostat	10:02
qe2eqe	qe2eqe, i'd have tried the recover cd by now =)	10:02
mrmental	qe2eqe: Is there any way I can contact you in the morning?	10:02
qe2eqe	mrmental, oops, i just talked to myself	10:02
kuro	n2diy: lol, i think you misunderstood me. but thank you for the help.	10:02
hanasaki	tryign to