[05:11] hey anyone using xubuntu on powerpc? [05:22] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/powerpc/unetbootin [05:22] how can i install that on my system [06:01] I'm on a GMA950 with a max canvas size of 2048x2028 (for acceleration)...and I have my two monitors positioned "top-of" each other (in xrandr, they are side by side physically). I want to make them appear to X stacked on top but be able to use them as if they were positioned side by side in xrandr (isntead of having to have the mouse go off the top of the screen to switch) === CYF is now known as CloseYetFar [07:04] hello can anybody help me with email questions [07:06] anybody out there [07:10] hello [07:14] ? [07:15] hello [07:16] i have email questions [07:16] can anybody help [07:17] hello [07:17] hello [07:17] can you help me with email [07:18] Chrissy, don't know until I here the question? [07:18] depends wat the question is [07:18] yeah [07:19] i set up a email address but when i try to check mail it [07:19] can you use sbackup and restore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box? [07:19] wants my password where is that [07:20] chrissy, use your login password. [07:20] !ask chrissy_ [07:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about ask chrissy_ [07:20] !ask | chrissy_ [07:20] chrissy_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [07:20] i tried that and it says password fail [07:21] your password is case sensitive, so don't mix capitals where non-capitals should be? [07:22] ok is there anything else that would make it fail [07:23] make sure your num lock is on, if you are using the numeric keypad. [07:24] ok i will try now thanks [07:26] your welcome Chrissy. [07:27] can you use sbackup and srestore between an 8.04 box and a 9.04 box? [07:42] I'm on a GMA950 with a max canvas size of 2048x2028 (for acceleration)...and I have my two monitors positioned "top-of" each other (in xrandr, they are side by side physically). I want to make them appear to X stacked on top but be able to use them as if they were positioned side by side in xrandr (isntead of having to have the mouse go off the top of the screen to switch) [08:04] just wondering why my eepc cant see my imac when i try to ssh into it [08:04] one is on wireless the other wired [08:11] if its the same network it should be ok [08:11] can you ping it ? [08:13] let me try it [08:13] host unreachable [08:13] it was working earlier [08:13] when i wasnt on wireless [08:14] and i try to ssh from the imac into the eeepc and it just freezzes [08:16] ok its a network problem :p [08:16] ping google from both computers please [08:16] and tell me which is disconnected [08:17] they are both online forsure [08:18] this one pings fine [08:18] its a desktop [08:18] imac [08:18] the other pings fine too [08:29] are they on the same network then ? [08:29] same router ? [08:30] yes [08:30] they are [08:30] its a netgear router [08:33] are you sure the router doesnt forbid packet through local net machines then ? :/ [08:33] do they use the same network mask ? [08:43] yeah they do [08:43] they have the samenetowrk mask [08:43] is that bad? [08:45] no [08:45] its what is meant to be [08:45] the only reason why you couldnt ping them is because of : 1) wrong network setup | 2) wrong router firewall setup [08:47] ok let me go to my router [08:47] i dont think i chaned anything [08:50] i really dont understand how else you couldnt ping your machines [08:50] what command did you use for pinging ? [08:50] probably wrong netwokr setup [08:50] ping [08:50] ping and then ip adrress [08:52] okies [08:54] ave no idea [08:54] what it could be [08:54] would be great to use my eee as a server [08:55] or my imac already has everything installed i jsut cant conect to i remotely [10:29] how do i get access to "system settings"? [10:29] i cant find it [10:54] System settings ? [10:54] Do you mean Applications -> System ? [10:55] yes i got it [10:56] how do i add items from the "applications" to the upper panel? cuz the "add new items" menu only has some apps, not all of em, i also tried to drag and drop em but it won't work [10:56] isnt there a well written guide to xubuntu? on the internet ive only found the ubuntu wiki, isnt there anything for xubuntu? [10:58] mib486, i'm affraid your going to have to add them by hand, if you add a new (empty) launcher, here you can select the command, icon and wether it should be opened in a terminal etc [10:58] ah ok cool [10:58] mib486: there is the xubuntu documentation [10:59] and the xfce documentation too [10:59] so i just add the "launcher" and then set what app i want [10:59] could u link it sidi? [10:59] yeah [10:59] mib486, on the xubuntu.org site you can find all the links [11:00] that was the same site i was before [11:00] there's no doco for xubuntu, the link goes to ubuntu's [11:00] mib486, click on "help and support" there is a xubuntu wiki link there (on the ubuntu wiki site) [11:00] mib486: visit file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/index.html [11:01] Normally Alt+F1 shows it by default [11:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu --> thatz where it getz u, and ive already been there, there's no doco for xubuntu! it takes u to ubuntu's [11:02] SiDi: it says file not found [11:02] mib486: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-docs [11:02] mib486: you're on Xubuntu 9.04 ? [11:02] Its meant to be installed by default now as far as i know [11:03] unfortunately i dont have internet yet... [11:03] thatz why i want to find a guide [11:03] in order to understand lots of things [11:03] :D [11:03] oh i see :P [11:03] Well it is _really_ meant to be installed by default [11:04] mib486, did you type that link on the xubuntu machine?.. [11:04] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/all/xubuntu-docs/download mib486 [11:04] whatz the terminal call here in xubuntu? [11:04] the one SiDi send you that is [11:04] and yes of course the link must me typed in the xubuntu machine mib486 [11:04] of course i did :D [11:04] okey [11:04] im a newbie, not a jerk :D [11:04] just download it from above then :p [11:04] mib486: stupid mistakes happen to everyone from times to times ;) [11:05] i no i no, im only kiddin :D [11:05] whatz the terminal call here in xubuntu? [11:05] lol yeah sorry, just wanted to make sure we didnt find that out after 2 hours of trying to figure out whats wrong ;) [11:05] mib486: i dont get your question about terminal call [11:05] im putting a link to it on the panel and since i have to link it manually im looking for the file in /usr/bin [11:05] Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal to open it, if its what you want to know [11:06] xfce4-terminal should be it [11:06] i see [11:06] xfce4-terminal [11:06] alright [11:07] cool [11:07] its added :D [11:07] but it put it on the extreme right, i wanted it on the left by the mozilla's icon [11:07] right click -> move [11:07] i moved it [11:07] :D [11:07] just found it [11:07] mib486: i checked and i have file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/ in my default xubuntu install [11:08] alright let me re-check then [11:08] So anyway, what's your wifi problem ? [11:09] oh [11:09] the mistake was mozilla's [11:09] thatz what gave the error output before when i tried to open a file [11:09] cuz they're all .html files so it opens em on mozilla [11:09] ive found the doco :D [11:10] anyway, my wifi prob is that [11:10] before i had winxp installed on this machine and my airport-pendrive worked [11:10] i could get connected [11:10] during xubuntu's installation the network was not found, thus not installed [11:11] and now even if i plug in and out this usb-airport-pendrive, it wont see it, or recognize it, moral of the tale: i cant get connected at all! [11:12] ok [11:12] so whats going on is that is doesnt have linux drivers [11:12] There is a way to use windows wifi drivers on linux [11:12] !ndiswrapper [11:12] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [11:13] hey ive just created a link of "xubuntu-docs" on the desktop but it wont let me rename it as i want, whatz the big deal with permissions over renaming? [11:13] a link ? [11:13] yes [11:13] What kind of link ? A "shortcut" or a true soft link ? :P [11:14] Isnt there a little "?" symbol in top left of your panel ? [11:14] i got right click > property and try to rename it but it wont let me (a shortcut sorry) [11:14] mib486: do you know exactly the model of your card ? [11:15] no i dont unfortunately [11:15] (but how do i rename this shortcut?) [11:15] As for your shortcut, please right click -> Open with mousepad and paste the whole content of the file to paste.ubuntu.com [11:15] the name is actually not the name of the file. I suppose the file is named xubuntu-docs.desktop or something similar. You can change the "display" name of a desktop file by editing the "Name" property it has, in a text editor [11:16] You can also specify a name for a particular locale :p [11:16] thatz weird, on this machine i have ubuntu and in order to change the name of a file i click f2 [11:16] or right click, properties, and rename it [11:17] here too actually [11:17] but its a .desktop file [11:17] (cant paste the content cuz the other pc is not connected to the internet) [11:17] they're special :P [11:18] so how do i do? o_O i didnt really get it, im a newbie u no :D step by step? :D [11:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/206131/ looks like that, right ? [11:18] what looks like that? [11:22] the content of your xubuntu shortcut if you right click it and open it with the text editor (mousepad) [11:23] if i right click on it ive got "opne, open a terminal here, properties, applications" plus some other not clickable among which "rename" but i see no text editor [11:25] Not clickable ? [11:25] interesting [11:25] mib486: where did you put this damn shortcut ? in your home folder, right ? [11:25] hahahaha [11:26] no, on the desktop [11:26] ok [11:26] what does "ls -l Desktop" say ? [11:26] i want the little bits on the left [11:26] -rw-r--r-- 1 yourusername yourusername ############## filename [11:26] it should be like this [11:27] well.... it actually says "no such file or directory" [11:28] alright i got it [11:28] it says [11:28] "total 4" [11:29] "lrwxrwxrwx 1 mib mib 104 date xubuntu-docs -> /usr/share/xubuntu-docs" [11:29] thatz what it says [11:29] where date is date and time of today of course [11:29] (actually its date and time of when i created that shortcut) [11:30] brb [11:35] mib486: type "cp /usr/share/applications/xubuntu-help.desktop ~/Desktop/" and you'll be done [11:35] and remove that soft link :) its not a shortcut, its a soft link to a folder in /usr/share, on which you dont have rights :) [11:35] shortcuts in linux are .desktop files [11:35] like the shortcuts in your menu entries [11:36] What you created is called a soft link : when you open a link with a piece of software, it will actually open the linked file instead [11:36] it allows you to browse through files more easily without having to duplicate your files [11:39] ah ok [11:40] but it isnt called xubuntu.help [11:40] xubuntu-docs [11:40] is it the same? [11:40] yes [11:40] i think :p [11:40] ok [11:40] how do u do the tilde? [11:41] Depends on your keyboard layout [11:41] most likely with the tilde key :P [11:41] shift+the button next to the 1 (in normal us-int style keybord) [11:41] its Altgr+2 with french keyboards, and Shift + ² with US ones afaik [11:42] ablomen: meh: p [11:42] ;) [11:44] alright how do i remove that link now [11:44] it wont even let me remove it [11:47] of course cause when you try to remove it tries to remove the file in /usr/share/xubuntu-docs, and you dont have the right to remove this one :D [11:47] rm Desktop/nameofthelink [11:48] sudo? [11:48] and dont use links anymore mib486 ;) its not really needed for end users [11:48] no [11:48] just rm [11:48] it will rm the link [11:48] by default the file manager will follow the link and act on the file [11:48] but the terminal, with ls and rm, will act on the link [11:48] and not on the linked file [11:48] ok [11:49] done [11:49] ok thanks SiDi [11:49] gotta go not [11:49] *now [11:49] he's a jolly good fellow... [11:49] but sure ill be back to disturb u a bit more :D [11:49] thanks mate cya [11:49] mib486: no problem :) [11:49] see you later [12:06] How do I prevent XFCE from leaving the current workspace when moving a window to another workspace via keyboard shortcut? [12:07] i think you cant [12:07] it'll follow the current window [12:08] bummer [12:08] it will stay btw if you drag it from one screen to another with the pager panel plugin, this might be an option to use [12:08] thank you for your answer [12:08] ablomen: the idea is to minimize unnecessary "work" [12:09] Moving the mouse is the worst [12:09] I use the keyboard whenever possible [12:10] ablomen: Actually, I'm not so sure what you are talking about. Can you please explain? I initially thought you were talking about moving the window off the edge of the screen with the mouse. [12:11] Laibsch, well you will have to use your mouse, but you can drag windows accros desktops from the pager plugin (the thing in your panel where you can see the different desktops) [12:13] (http://xubuntu.org/sites/default/files/xubuntu-jaunty.png << the one next to the trash icon in the bottom right corner) [12:14] OK [12:14] that is what I thought [12:14] I have it set to a 2x2 matrix [12:14] Maybe it is too small (I have reduced the size of the taskbar, too) [12:15] But I don't seem to be able to move windows around in there. [12:15] And I don't think I'd be very interested in this since it involves the mouse [12:15] Thanks for sharing this, though. [12:16] oh it might have been taken out (using an older version of xubuntu myself) [12:18] no, you can drag a window to another ws in the ws-applet === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi [14:59] hi guys, my session crashed the output was something like "your session only lasted 10 seconds this might be there's some installation problem, try to login with failsafe something...etc" what should i do? [15:01] mib486: please provide us .xsession-errors [15:02] i dont have internet on the laptop so i cant pastebin the output [15:02] ill try to read and copy here the most info possible [15:03] its weird cuz it was working well before [15:04] i only changed the time and date and now it wont let me log in anymore [15:05] ok so it goes: [15:06] gdm [2645]: DEBUG: Attempting to parse key string: daemon/Greeter=/usr/lib/gdm/gdmlogin [15:06] (and this is the very first line [15:07] an important passage i think it is the following... [15:07] mkdir: cannot create directory '/home/mib/.config': Permission denied [15:07] same thing for /home/mib/.cache [15:07] then it goes [15:08] Can't create dir /home/mib/Desktop [15:08] and music and images and docs etc [15:08] last line is [15:09] xfce4-session: Unable to access file /home/mib/.ICEauthority: Permission Denied [15:09] what is going on?? [15:09] SiDi: ? [15:10] !patient [15:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about patient [15:10] well be patient :) [15:14] i thought he/she didnt read it cuz i didnt mention who i was talking to... [15:15] !volunteers [15:15] Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteers [15:15] !patience [15:15] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. [15:15] Everyone here is a volunteer, and most are working a regular job while trying to help out [15:16] oh give me a break, i perfectly know how it works here on freenode, i didnt say anything but a question mark after SiDi's name alright? [15:19] Anyone know what "HPLJ 10XX Replaced Paper" is? It shows up in a fresh Karmic install under Applications -> System [15:35] App -> System -> printers -> this, charlie-tca ? [15:35] No [15:35] i know hplip (hp utilities for print/scan) is installed by default, but i dont think having a menu entry is normal [15:35] hm [15:36] ls /usr/share/applications | grep hp please charlie-tca [15:36] Applications -> System -> HPLJ 10xx Replaced Paper [15:36] I don't even have the printer installed [15:37] SiDi: hplj1020.desktop [15:39] charlie-tca: okies, sec [15:42] charlie-tca: searching for the culprit package [15:43] culprit seems to be /usr/share/applications/hplj1020.desktop [15:43] foo2zjs contains this [15:43] who reports the bug ? :D [15:44] no, HPLJ 10xx Replaced Paper.desktop [15:44] I guess I will [15:44] Just wanted to know it is a bug, not on purpose [15:45] I filed the screensaver bug last release. === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo [20:15] is there anyway to mount a bin/cue kvcd file and play it? [20:17] I've just tried xubuntu this week, and I want to say I'm really impressed. I wanted something fairly lightweight and clean that my dad could use on his old 600mhz notebook, and I think this is it. Thanks for all of your hard work! [20:19] ok when i try to go to myip.com/test.php [20:19] instead of displaying the test page it opens a dialoge for me to download it or save it [20:19] what is going on? [20:20] anyway just wanted to say that, thanks ! [20:21] nevermind got it working [20:21] Hi, I've got a little problem here. My network manager just doesn't want to save my pppoE connection. I already tried to figure out those problems with you guys a long while ago, but without success. Now I'm asking myself if that problem is fixt by now in the jaunty release? And a second question can I burn the CD ISO image on a DVD? [20:29] what cd iso image? and i would think yes. i have burned many w/ brasero [20:30] the latest xubuntu iso image of course =) [20:30] as to the network manager i was having issues on 8.10. i think it was because it wasnt accessing keyring. [20:31] yes u can burn to dvd but y would u want to? use a cd. it will fit [20:32] it's 21:30 here, no way that I can buy a cd now :D [20:33] ahhh ok [20:33] where do u live? [20:33] gotcha [20:33] germany [20:33] no walmart? [20:33] lol nope [20:34] what part of germany? [20:34] a very small village:D [20:34] more cows than people [20:34] yea it should work fine on a dvd i would think [20:34] damn nunu [20:34] borrow one from your neighbours! [20:34] largest city u live near? one that shows on a map [20:34] neighbours ????!!! [20:35] ;P [20:35] I think Oldenburg or Wilhelmshaven [20:35] dunno what you call them in english :D [20:35] cool, i still have no idea where that is :) [20:36] been to munchen and berlinen [20:36] http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=Bockhorn&sll=53.213229,7.863808&sspn=0.063323,0.156898&ie=UTF8&ll=48.315425,11.98956&spn=0.00879,0.019612&t=h&z=15&iwloc=A [20:37] damn u aint kidding about no neighbors [20:37] no wait [20:37] thats the wrong villaghe [20:37] xD [20:38] all good ur near my favorite, munchen :) [20:38] gotta love bavaria [20:38] http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=Bockhorn+26345&sll=48.314083,11.987178&sspn=0.004395,0.009806&ie=UTF8&ll=53.392747,8.015792&spn=0.003941,0.009806&t=h&z=16 <- that should be it [20:39] I live at the north coast , so bavaria is a loooong trip =) [20:40] ahh ok [20:40] thats a ways away from first city lol [20:40] but we got DSL up to 32k ^^ [20:41] yes its ab bit [20:41] My panel does not use the /home/user/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml file for the panel popup menu. But I can't figure out what else is set to be used... How can I check it? [20:41] 20 km [20:41] did they ever get that maglev train built in germany? from frankfurt i believe? [20:41] my daily bicycle tour ^^ [20:42] what train? [20:42] S0210: rt click on applications and hit properties [20:43] they were talking about building a maglev hi-speed train near Frankfurt i believe [20:43] ah now i get it, the magnetic stuff train ^^ No we don't use it, theres only a test course [20:43] ahh ok [20:43] "to risky" [20:43] how so? [20:44] might move people too fast [20:44] ask the politicians [20:44] ^^ [20:44] lmao [20:44] what do they know [20:44] well i still like ur rail system [20:44] =) they're the ones in charge :/ [20:44] I like it too [20:45] i know what u mean [20:45] im in the states [20:45] R1cochet: changeing it to menu.xml it gives an empty menu... <:-. [20:45] its fast and doesn't pollute the envoirement that much, (I think) [20:46] If you want to ride that train you'd have to go to china or japan, I think there's one active [20:46] =) [20:46] S0210: did u try xfce-applications.menu located in /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus ? [20:46] yea i think so [20:48] S0210: did u get it? [20:49] R1cochet: I got it but ... its content does not remind me to the menu options [20:49] ??? i dont understand? [20:50] R1cochet: what am I expected to see in xfce-application.menus? [20:51] R1cochet: that's the only file I find in /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus [20:51] yea change that to ur menu file [20:52] im confused [20:52] did u want to change ur applications menu file? [20:53] R1cochet: yes, after upgradeing to 9.04 my menu list became a long list of (existing but) unwanted applications... [20:54] R1cochet: I first thought to change the menu.xml but that is not recognized [20:54] R1cochet: (at leat in the main user account. in the other user account it works fine.) [20:55] k3b just told me to insert a cd when trying to burn the ISO on a dvd [20:55] is there another command I can use or so? [20:56] I'll just tell him that its a dvd iso ^^ [20:56] nunu: not sure? ive never tried to burn it to dvd sry [20:56] S0210: as far as i know there is no way to edit the menu like there was in 8.10 [20:57] ive asked my self and was told that i couldnt. [20:57] u might be able to create ur own menu list and use that instead tho [20:57] but i have no idea where to begin [20:59] hmmm... let's see some more experiments. }:-. thanks anyway! [21:10] R1cochet, works, I just selected the cd ISO image from the "Burn dvd image" option [21:10] cya @ll === techknowlust is now known as techknowlust|awa [21:34] why aria download manager is not working with xubuntu where it works with ubuntu? http://valentine.viviti.com/entries/softwares/linux-ubuntu-mint-download-manager-aria [21:39] Perhaps it has Gnome dependencies that Xubuntu does not install? [21:41] aaqil: have u not tried the dl manager for firefox? [21:41]