[00:00] <kaddi> hello, I have a question about dragon player: kaffeine used to have a "minimalistic" view, which only showed the video, no menus or anything. Does dragon player have such a configuration?
[00:23] <kubuntu_> need help on partially installed packages
[00:25] <kaddi> kubuntu_: what does it say? Not sure I will be able to help you though :/
[00:25] <AndorinKato> What's the Kubuntu version of GParted?
[00:25] <kubuntu_> they need to configure
[00:25] <Dragnslcr> !info partitionmanager | AndorinKato
[00:26] <kaddi> kubuntu_: does it give you a command you should run? If so executing usually solves the problem :)
[00:26] <kubuntu_> yes but it doesnt solve it
[00:27] <kaddi> what does it say when you run the command?
[00:28] <AndorinKato> Is there any particular reason why a fresh install of Kubuntu Jaunty would not have partitionmanager installed?
[00:28] <kubuntu_> a bunch of errrors
[00:29] <kaddi> could we see them? paste them somewhere and give us a link to it :)
[00:30] <kaddi> !paste
[00:31] <elohim> hi
[00:31] <kaddi> hi :)
[00:31] <elohim> i need to run a recent kernel with kde 3.5
[00:31] <elohim> KDE4 sucks.
[00:31] <elohim> is there a tutorial to remove KDE4 and install 3.5 ?
[00:32] <kubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/206635/
[00:32] <AndorinKato> Is there any particular reason why a fresh install of Kubuntu Jaunty would not have partitionmanager installed?
[00:32] <kaddi> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jauntyelohim:
[00:32] <kaddi> argh, elohim: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[00:32] <elohim> ok
[00:33] <elohim> i thought jaunty came with kde4
[00:33] <kaddi> AndorinKato: I would guess because most people don't need to use it once they have partitioned their harddisk. but I don't know
[00:33] <kaddi> elohim: It does. But some people believe KDE3 du be more stable and did the work to get kde3 working on it again ;)
[00:34] <kaddi> *to even
[00:34] <elohim> so after i install jaunty, how do i rid of kde4 and install 3.5
[00:34] <AndorinKato> Well, we need a partition editor.
[00:34] <elohim> AndorinKato: i like gparted
[00:35] <AndorinKato> elohim: On Kubuntu?
[00:35] <elohim> yeah so ?
[00:35] <elohim> it works
[00:35] <elohim> qtparted sucks
[00:35] <FloodBotK1> elohim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:35] <AndorinKato> elohim: She doesn't have it.
[00:35] <elohim> so install it
[00:35] <AndorinKato> elohim: She can't. She does not have an Internet connection.
[00:36] <elohim> fdisk
[00:36] <kubuntu_> apt-get upgrade
[00:36] <AndorinKato> So apt-get works without an Internet connection, does it?
[00:36] <elohim> how do i get rid of kde4 and install 3.5 after installing jaunty ?
[00:37] <kubuntu_> kaddi: any thoughts?
[00:38] <kaddi> kubuntu_: I'm googling. My thought is that the package you downloaded might have been corrupted. I would try to clean the cache and download the packages again.
[00:39] <kubuntu_> well the wholemachine froze in the middle
[00:39] <kaddi> kubuntu_: you could use sudo apt-get clean and then try to download the packages again afterwards
[00:39] <kubuntu_> all i was doing was removing totem-xine and installing totem-gstreamer
[00:40] <kaddi> kubuntu_: removing all downloaded files has helped me once with a similar problem, so it might be worth a try
[00:41] <kubuntu_> kaddi: still nothing
[00:41] <kaddi> it shouldn't hurt. All it does is delete the package you downloaded for installation
[00:41] <kubuntu_> something about unable to execute post-installation script
[00:42] <kaddi> then maybe try uninstalling everything and reinstalling it. But by now I'm only guessing.
[00:42] <kaddi> You can also force an installation with "sudo apt-get install -f <packagename>" maybe that'll work?
[00:42] <kubuntu_> thas the thing it wont even uninstall
[00:43] <kubuntu_> first time i ever even had the whole system freeze
[00:44] <kubuntu_> where is this post-installation script anyways?
[00:45] <kaddi> AndorinKato: I had a look around, the main argument seems to be, that you can't configure partitions that are mounted, so a partitionmanager in a running ubuntu is not very useful. this is why it is not instaled by default
[00:45] <AndorinKato> As we just discovered.
[00:45] <AndorinKato> I am going to KILL my friend's computer.
[00:47] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, no livecd lying around?
[00:47] <AndorinKato> She's booting from it now.
[00:48] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, isn't parted installed by default?
[00:48] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: Yes, but it's useless to her in the install.
[00:49] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[00:49] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, (i'm sure you've already explained, but i wasn't around...)
[00:49] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: She needs to completely wipe her hard drive because she needs to install Windows 7 but it won't format her drive for some reason.
[00:49] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, and you said she has no internet access?
[00:50] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: The entire reason we're having all these problems is because her Kubuntu install will not do a THING with her wireless card.
[00:50] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, cant you plug into router/modem?
[00:50] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: We've been working for three days to get it working and we continue to hit brick walls at each turn.
[00:50] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: Nope, she has to connect via wireless.
[00:50] <kaddi> ign0ramus: could you take a look at kubuntu_'s problem as well: http://paste.ubuntu.com/206635/ I suggested apt-get clean, apt-get install -f and uninstalling the items that are giving problem. nothing worked
[00:51] <kaddi> I'm at a loss
[00:51] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, nothing to do with Kubuntu, but can't you just make a DBAN disc, boot from it and wipe the whole drive?
[00:51] <ign0ramus> kaddi, lemme see
[00:51] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: I don't know, I'm still rather new to Linux.
[00:52] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, it's not a linux-specific thing.  just an .iso to download and burn to disc.  boot from the disc --> wipe the entire thing.
[00:54] <ign0ramus> kaddi, so 'totem-gstreamer' is the offending package here?
[00:55] <kaddi> yes, (s)he was removing totem-xine and installing totem-gstreamer, when the system froze. now (s)he can't install
[00:55] <ign0ramus> kaddi, well, (s)he bailed on us, so it's no use anyway :P
[00:55] <kaddi> and apparently (s)he is gone. :/
[00:55] <kaddi> hehe, obviously, yes
[00:56] <kaddi> but are there any other obvious solutions than cleaning the cache and trying to force install?
[00:56] <ign0ramus> kaddi, maybe a dist-upgrade or build-dep
[00:56] <kaddi> thank you :)
[00:57] <ign0ramus> kaddi, just guessing... apt packing is awesome, but it still has its quirks ;)
[00:57] <ign0ramus> *packaging
[00:58] <kaddi> way too many options for me... I know three commands, that has been enough so far :D
[00:59] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: We may not need it. One, it would be extra hassle right now and this has been MORE THAN ENOUGH hassle already. Two, she got parted on the live CD to erase most of the data on the drive.
[00:59] <ign0ramus> kaddi, :)
[01:00] <AndorinKato> The only reason Windows 7 would not install now is if it needed the drive to be completely blank. It's not because parted would not erase the swap partition, saying it was being used.
[01:00] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, from the live cd, parted reported swap being in use?
[01:01] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: Yes.
[01:01] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, hmm... why do you say Win7 needs a fully blank drive?
[01:02] <AndorinKato> ign0ramus: It doesn't, I was speculating. She tells me it's installing now./
[01:02] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, aha! Win7 only needs a partition to install to
[01:02] <ign0ramus> AndorinKato, but this is getting a little ot for this channel :)
[01:03] <kaddi> ever so slightly ;)
[01:25] <topramen> can anyone tell me why would I need to put a live cd in to do an update?<<<<
[01:26] <Dragnslcr> Maybe if you have the CD listed in your apt sources
[01:29] <topramen> ok thanks i just done that
[01:32] <eean> any idea where I can get the atl1e module?
[01:32] <eean> for my EeePC 1005HAB ethernet
[01:34] <AndorinKato> Okay, because Windows 7 is not recognizing her card either, we have came to the conclusion that it is her card that is at fault.
[01:34] <AndorinKato> Three days of extremely aggravating computer work for nothing.
[01:35] <kaddi> AndorinKato: my sympathies. :/ I know how this feels
[01:35] <AndorinKato> Thank you.
[01:36] <AndorinKato> As far as I can tell the best thing she can do is tell the person who bought the card that it's faulty.
[01:37] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, trying to troubleshoot problems that end up being broken hardware is rough
[01:38] <AndorinKato> *shrug* I don't know what other conclusion to come to. Installed Kubuntu 9.04 won't recognize the drive, even after extensive driver configuration. Neither will the live CD for it. Neither will Kubuntu Feisty. Neither will Windows 7.
[01:38] <AndorinKato> drive? card.
[01:39] <AndorinKato> She did open her PC at one point and double-check that the card is plugged in properly.
[01:42] <AndorinKato> Is there any other possibility for what's wrong?
[01:45] <kaddi> could be the "place where you inserted the card" that is defective. It would probably help if you had another card or another PC to test if the cards works on a different pc or if a different card works on your pc
[01:46] <kaddi> then you can see if it is the PC or the card that is the problem
[01:55] <DaskreeCH> AndorinKato: Hey
[01:55] <DaskreeCH> How goes your issue?
[01:56] <AndorinKato> DaskreeCH: Welllllll, she installed Windows 7 and it won't read her card either.
[01:56] <AndorinKato> kaddi: I passed your advice to her. She'll try it later.
[01:56] <AndorinKato> She has another card she can try, some Realtek piece.
[01:56] <AndorinKato> And other PCI ports.
[01:57] <DaskreeCH> AndorinKato: Same one that was wonky in Winows 7 before ?
[01:58] <AndorinKato> DaskreeCH: Yeah, but she thinks that it wasn't working quite properly because of a lack of a decent driver. This time she has the driver CD, but it won't let her install the driver for it.
[01:59] <DaskreeCH> AndorinKato: Alright It's too bad she doesn't have a nicer setup with either someone there to help bounce ideas off of or other hardware to test
[02:00] <AndorinKato> Indeed.
[02:07] <chx> hi. i need an RSS reader that makes the most obnoxious warnings when there is a new item and preferably can check the feed every minute. :)
[02:09] <GnuSeb> I just bought my first printer it's a canon pixma iP1900 !
[02:09] <GnuSeb> um help
[02:10] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters http://linuxprinting.org GnuSeb check these links,
[02:11] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers and this GnuSeb
[02:11] <chx> when i click Settings Configure Notifications in Akregator nothing displays. this is KDE 4.2.2 , Kubuntu 9.04
[02:12] <GnuSeb> thankyou bazhang
[02:12] <DaskreeCH> chx: Akregator?
[02:12] <bazhang> GnuSeb, you're welcome; a quick look at the ubuntuforums might help as well, let me check
[02:13] <DaskreeCH> AndorinKato: How are you btw?
[02:13] <mrksbrd> does anyone have the correct broadcom 43xx driver, i'm about to pull my hair out trying to get this darn thing to work
[02:13] <AndorinKato> DaskreeCH: At the end of my patience for wireless networks in general.
[02:13] <GnuSeb> bazhang what does not supported but does work mean?
[02:13] <DaskreeCH> Yeah I hate wireless as well. I think that's one of the reasons I never want a laptop
[02:13]  * mrksbrd joins AndorinKato
[02:14] <mrksbrd> can someone explain why in one version it works an others it doesn't ????
[02:14] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=980735 GnuSeb check there for solution
[02:14] <chx> ah but i can in system notification configuration. great, great
[02:16] <chx> i want advanced screening tickets for the new harry potter movie so i need to follow closely our local wb rep on twitter, lol
[02:17] <GnuSeb> bazhang; thank you
[02:17] <chx> thxbye
[02:17] <GnuSeb> is hardy after or before intrepid ibex?
[02:18] <bazhang> alphabetical :)
[02:23] <neo_> Hi to all my friends
[02:23] <neo_> I have a question about microSD Kingstone en Ubuntu
[02:25] <neo_> I have a microSD Kingstone and I never can use it in Ubuntu 8.04
[02:29] <neo_> I get the messege "error E/S .. error 110 "
[02:29] <nate_> hello room
[02:29] <neo_> the micro card is ok, I use it in window$ and work good
[02:31] <nate_> i have 4 blocked updates and they are linux headers, anybody know why
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> nate_- because they depend on new packages, which KPackageKit won't install automatically for you. You can install the updates with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:33] <neo_>  usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[02:33] <neo_> [ 4426.671429] usb 1-2: device not accepting address 5, error -71
[02:33] <DaskreeCH> GnuSeb: Since Dapper they have all been alphabetical
[02:33] <nikitis> How do i reload the smbd daemon?  sudo /etc/init.d/smb reload says command not found.
[02:33] <neo_> so sorry, I get this text when I conect my micro SD
[02:34] <nate_> Dragnsclr: does that move me from 9.04 to 9.XX?
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> nate_- no, dist-upgrade does not do a Kubuntu version upgrade
[02:53] <hanhan> hi Guys
[02:53] <hanhan> help me about asterisk-gui
[02:54] <hanhan> please, help me
[02:57] <bazhang> hanhan, what are you trying to do, what have you done so far, and what errors have you gotten; also /join #asterisk and ask there as well
[02:59] <hanhan> but
[03:00] <hanhan> i can't comlplet
[03:00] <bazhang> hanhan, we need those three pieces of info before we can help; just repeating 'help me' wont get you any help
[03:06] <nate_> Dragnslcr: what  does it do?
[03:14] <wendel> simplesmente impossivel instalar amsn
[03:27] <ubuntu> Is there a workaround for the karmic grub loader?
[03:28] <bazhang> ubuntu, try #ubuntu+1 for karmic support ; here is Jaunty and earlier
[03:28] <ubuntu> ty
[03:37] <ubuntu> Is jaunty a stable distro?
[03:38] <bazhang> ubuntu, quite so
[03:39] <ubuntu> and thats the 9.04 version?
[03:39] <ubuntu> when is 9.10 coming out in august
[03:40] <ubuntu> sry so many questions im bored and just dbaned my vista os lol
[03:41] <bazhang> 09 is the year; 10 is the month ubuntu
[03:42] <bazhang> October 29, 2009 or thereabouts to be precise
[03:44] <ubuntu> very good to know I love kde it rules
[03:59] <buddy> ciao
[04:00] <buddy> ?list
[04:01] <buddy> irc.oltre irc.net
[04:29] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to get Second Life running on Kubuntu 4.2 Jaunty.  Whenever I run the "./secondlife" the window launches, then crashes, saying to install the 32 bit binaries, which I have installed already.  Any ideas?
[04:48] <Crell> Hi all.  I have a PDF that is password protected.  I know the password and can open the file, but I want to remove or change the password so that I can pass it on to someone else.  How can I go about doing that?  I am using Okular at the moment but don't see a way to do so.
[04:52] <xp-killer> what the command to see all ip adress conected to my router
[04:53] <xp-killer> like in xp i have to type ipconfigall
[04:54] <xp-killer> in linux i dont know it
[04:54] <Pici> ifconfig
[04:59] <xp-killer> Pici: whats eth0 and lo?
[05:00] <xp-killer> Pici: its only showing my ip
[05:01] <xp-killer> Pici: how can i hide my ip?
[05:01] <feco> www.startlap.hu
[05:04] <Pici> xp-killer: hide your ip? on IRC?
[05:05] <xp-killer> Pici: no i want to hide my ps3 ip,but i guess to do that i have to hide my router ip
[05:05] <Pici> xp-killer: I don't know how to do that, sorry.
[05:06] <xp-killer> Pici: k
[05:06] <xp-killer> Pici: can u help me install samba and get it runing?i want my sis to take my movie files
[05:07] <xp-killer> multimedia files
[05:07] <Pici> xp-killer: I'm actually just about to take off to go to sleep, its a bit after midnight here. Sorry.
[05:07] <xp-killer> yea same here but i just got up now i cant sleep :(
[05:23] <landon_> hey anyone here know how to get flash on 64bit kubuntu?
[05:23] <Crell> Hi all.  I have a PDF that is password protected.  I know the password and can open the file, but I want to remove or change the password so that I can pass it on to someone else.  How can I go about doing that?  I am using Okular at the moment but don't see a way to do so.
[05:35] <harper> Hi, I need to import my e-mail certificates while moving from Windows XP to kubuntu. How do I import these PFX files?
[05:41] <q_> hi!
[05:41] <q_> Is there a way to install on a computer without a monitor keyboard or mouse, but connected to the network?
[07:51] <orion_>  Downgrade  KDE 4.3 Beta 2 -> KDE 4.2.4
[07:52] <orion_> help ?
[07:56] <tsimpson> orion_: the short answer is you can't
[07:56] <tsimpson> orion_: the longer answer is to remove all KDE packages, then remove the 4.3 repo, and reinstall the KDE packages. which is not a simple process
[07:57] <Styles___\> Hey
[07:58] <Styles___\> How do I check why my CD drive isn't being.. seen by kubu wntu, it was earlier
[07:58] <Styles___\> kubuntu*
[07:59] <Styles___\> it said LP driver not found
[08:00] <Styles___\>    15.902223] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[08:25] <diernosaj> so my kubuntu KDE doesn't work but it logs into gnome fine, im having bad resolution and nvidia graphics drivers and xorg.conf problems, can anybody help?
[08:33] <diernosaj> anybody ?
[08:41] <kurumin> brazil, please
[08:41] <kurumin> i from brazil
[08:42] <kurumin> my name is leo
[08:42] <kurumin> to talk for me
[08:43] <kurumin> #brazil
[08:43] <m4v> !br | kurumin
[08:49] <diernosaj> why would gnome load fine, but i can't load into KDE with my resolution settings
[09:01] <cms> hola!
[09:02] <cms> tengo algunas preguntas, quien puede ayudarme?
[09:02] <__-osh-__> !es
[09:22] <dwidmann> diernosaj: first thing I would try would be to create a new user and try to log in with that. If that works then it's a user level config issue.
[09:36] <m4tth3vv> I've been trying to hide my IP when using IRC. I typed "/msg NickServ set iphide on" but it didn't work
[09:36] <m4tth3vv> anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
[09:37] <bazhang> m4tth3vv, consider a cloak
[09:37] <bazhang> !cloak | m4tth3vv
[09:37] <bazhang> m4tth3vv, help in #freenode
[09:37] <m4tth3vv> thanks
[10:12] <alpha> hi leute, wer kann mir sagen wie ich pidgin für yahoo konfigurieren kann??
[10:33] <eagles0513875> what version of jack is in the kubuntu repos
[10:33] <eagles0513875> according to apt-cache policy 3.1.1 is that though for jack1 or jack2
[10:34] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: you know where the repos are, don't you?
[10:34] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: also, you can type aptitude show jack to get the version number
[10:34] <eagles0513875> i did an apt-cache policy jack and it is showing candidate version as 3.1.1+cvs20050801-25build1
[10:35] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: well, that's the version
[10:35] <eagles0513875> i found which version and comparing it to whats on the jackaudio.org website the versions dont match with whats on the jackaudio.org website
[10:35] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: what does the website say?
[10:35] <eagles0513875> tthey have 2 different ones jack1 and jack 2
[10:36] <eagles0513875> jack1 is 0.116.2 and jack2 is 1.9.2
[10:36] <Mamarok> let me check
[10:37] <eagles0513875> the link to the jack website is http://jackaudio.org/download
[10:37] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: because that is not the package you are looking for :)
[10:37] <eagles0513875> ?
[10:38] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: do an aptitude search jack and you will see...
[10:38] <eagles0513875> what package should i be running apt-cache policy jackd
[10:38] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhhh :)
[10:38] <eagles0513875> thanks Mamarok :) my bad on my part
[10:39] <eagles0513875> what is the difference between jack1 and jack2
[10:39] <eagles0513875> or would that be a better question to ask in the jack channel
[10:39] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: I don't know, but here is an extensive documentation on their website, check that
[10:39] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:39] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: because that's waht they will tell you, read the docs
[10:39] <naftilos76> hi everyone, is there a menu editor for latest kubuntu?
[10:39] <Mamarok> naftilos76: if you do a right click on the menu button you can open the editor
[10:40] <eagles0513875> touche Mamarok beat me to it
[10:40] <naftilos76> thanks man!
[10:40] <Mamarok> naftilos76: yaw :)
[10:40] <davidsands> join #taiwan
[10:40] <Mamarok> davidsands: you forgot the /
[10:41] <davidsands> yup, i did ...
[10:42] <davidsands> this is my first time using quassel ... and i don't use irc much .. will have to look into it ..
[10:43] <Mamarok> davidsands: no problem, we all started at some time :)
[10:43] <davidsands> I'm here to look into the format for the Tomboy notes database ...
[10:43] <shadeslayer> bye
[10:44] <Mamarok> !info tomboy
[10:44] <Mamarok> davidsands: I don't know that application, you should ask in #ubuntu as it is more a Gnome app
[10:44] <davidsands> I see it's coded in C# ...
[10:44] <eagles0513875> c# is a windows thing davidsands
[10:44] <davidsands> Mamarok: ok, thanks ..
[10:45] <davidsands> Mamarok: it's also a mono thing ...
[10:45] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: it's a language, you can well use it on other systems
[10:45] <Mamarok> davidsands: I know that
[10:45] <Mamarok> davidsands: and KDE doesn't use mono
[10:45] <eagles0513875> granted but seeing it used in the dreaded win vista its super slow programming language
[10:45] <davidsands> I see ...
[10:46] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: ot...
[10:46] <eagles0513875> sry
[10:48] <davidsands> Mamarok: so is there a riff between the gnome and kde camps in ubuntu?
[10:49] <davidsands> Mamarok: I'm looking into contributing to an app written with QT4 and KDE bindings ...
[10:49] <Mamarok> davidsands: please, this is a support channel only, such questions do belong in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <davidsands> Mamarok: ok. Why doesn't my Qt4 Settings choices get reflected in KDE apps run under Gnome?
[10:51] <davidsands> Mamarok: GTK+ is one of the look and feel options ..
[10:51] <Mamarok> davidsands: because you don't have all the packages installed I think
[10:52] <davidsands> Mamarok: I installed the complete package ... can use KDE as an option when logging in ...
[10:52] <Mamarok> davidsands: you need to install the oxygen icons for example
[10:52] <Mamarok> davidsands: well, if you have everything installed, then you should ask in #ubuntu, I never use Gnome so I can't tell, sorry
[10:53] <davidsands> Mamarok: thank you ...
[10:54] <Mamarok> davidsands: yaw :)
[11:07] <eshat> Hi all, why can I not aktivate Desktop Effects, when a beamer is connected?
[11:19] <alarm> goodmorning
[11:19] <alarm>  is it normal for xorg to have always above 12-13% cpu usage ? even when i am not doing any process ?
[11:19] <alarm> i mean kwin and xorg keep my system even on idle above 20% alwats
[11:19] <alarm> always
[11:21] <Mamarok> alarm: well, if you use the desktop effects this is not much at all :)
[11:21] <alarm> i use just 2 widgets
[11:22] <Mamarok> alarm: no 3d effects?
[11:22] <alarm> i dont know i remember having on the old good debian 4 on idle or normal state something like 10-15% max. where here without any open application my system runs on 20-30% , both cores of the cpu
[11:22] <alarm> well just those that kde4 provides by default
[11:22] <Mamarok> the widgets are plasma, that doesn't show as an y activity but as a plasma PID
[11:22] <alarm> nothing extra
[11:23] <Mamarok> alarm: but you have 3d activated, haven't you?
[11:23] <alarm> mm let me check i am unsure.. :)
[11:23] <Mamarok> s/y/X
[11:23] <alarm> yeap "desktop effects" are enabled
[11:24] <Mamarok> alarm: well, that's what makes the difference I think
[11:24] <alarm> okie then :)
[11:24] <alarm> thank you
[11:24] <alarm> i will see how to reduce it a bit
[11:24] <alarm> i want to make my fan stop rotating like crazy all the time
[11:24] <Mamarok> alarm: remove all the effects you don't normaly use
[11:25] <alarm> alright, will do that
[11:25] <Mamarok> your fan rotates for 30% CPU activity? Mine only starts at around 70%
[11:25] <alarm> laptop... :>
[11:25] <Mamarok> well, the fan noise I mean :)
[11:25] <Mamarok> and I am on a laptop too
[11:26] <alarm> well its not rotating at full speed. but once it heats up a bit i can hear it a bit louder. i get a bit annoyed
[11:26] <alarm> one more short question whats the aplay zombie in my processes ?
[11:27] <Mamarok> my X uses approx. 13% CPU with minimal DE
[11:27] <Mamarok> alarm: alsa
[11:27] <alarm> okie :) now we know :) thank you a lot
[11:27] <Mamarok> you are welcome, alarm :)
[12:05] <dimych> привет
[12:10] <DarkTan> how do i wtire scripts for konversation?
[12:15] <DarkTan> uhhh...hello?
[12:48] <hjb> hi. how do i install acroread on IA64?
[12:48] <hjb> it's not in the canocial repo
[12:50] <nofal> how to install xamp in ubuntu. i was install but still error
[12:51] <T|-|e_SLiDeR> hi there
[13:01] <hjb> is there no print preview for konqueror ?!?
[13:01] <T|-|e_SLiDeR> where do I find the desktop changers in KDE 4.2
[13:01] <Tetsuo> hi i want to install kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu but I get a lot of error messages about unresolvable dependencies. do I need some repositories for that??
[13:07] <eMyller> hallo
[13:07] <eMyller> could someone cp me a .bashrc file?
[13:08] <eMyller> mine is almost empty, i have no colors in terminal
[13:08] <eMyller> and it's quite useful
[13:12] <cortex_sk> eMyller: copy it from root or add   alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[13:12] <mateusz> hi
[13:12] <cortex_sk> eMyller: or try this http://pastebin.ca/1479435
[13:14] <eMyller> cortex_sk: great, thanks =]
[13:14] <cortex_sk> eMyller: username is green and root is red
[13:15] <hjb> noone who knows about print preview in konqueror?
[13:17] <eMyller> cortex_sk: ty. do i really have to log out/in to see the changes?
[13:18] <cortex_sk> no you don't
[13:18] <eMyller> isnt there any 'update' cmd?
[13:18] <mateusz> i buy Fuitsu Siemens esprimo mobile v6515, and i install Kubuntu 9.04, but i can't change bright. What I must do if only change the bright?
[13:18] <cortex_sk> eMyller: i don't know
[13:18] <mateusz> And my batery is: "0%, full"
[13:19] <eMyller> k, ty
[13:22] <mateusz> How I can do to change bright?
[13:23] <eMyller> mateusz: some machines only change bright "externally"
[13:24] <eMyller> check if isn't there any control in its body
[13:35] <eMyller> anyone know how can i trim the path from the current location @ terminal?
[13:36] <mateusz> no, special kay (bright)isn't work. (volume working)
[13:36] <eMyller> it'd be better if i had just the name of the current dir, nothing else
[13:37] <eMyller> mateusz: so i guess kubuntu doesnt support your model natively
[13:37] <eMyller> altough many people use workarounds for this (i dont know how)
[13:38] <companion> hi all!
[13:39] <companion> anyone using kubuntu 9.04?
[13:40] <eMyller> me
[13:43] <mateusz> where i can place root's password?
[13:44] <Dragnslcr> mateusz- you don't
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:45] <mateusz> so how i can install drives for my geforce, how i must be root?
[13:45] <Dragnslcr> mateusz- if a GUI program needs root privileges, it will ask for your password
[13:46] <Dragnslcr> mateusz- if you're in a shell, you can run a command with sudo
[13:46] <BluesKaj> mateusz, you can find the drivers for nvidia card on adept
[13:47] <mateusz> but this drives isn't install, i dont know why
[13:52] <johnrdavisjr> What would be the best ubuntu spin to use for audio recording?
[13:55] <kaddi> heya, I'm currently editing a windowsfile with kate. Can I ensure that kate will save the file with the same encoding it originally had? eg, that the linebreaks will still be linebreaks under windows?
[13:56] <johnrdavisjr> does anyone have any idea how to record skype conversations?
[14:01] <mortas> hi
[14:03] <kaddi> hi mortas :)
[14:07] <BluesKaj> kaddi , whynot save it as a pdf file , then you'll be sure to preserve the structure
[14:07] <T|-|e_SLiDeR_> can anyone tell me how to find the desktop switcher in KDE 4.2
[14:07] <BluesKaj> T|-|e_SLiDeR_, look in widgets
[14:09] <BluesKaj> T|-|e_SLiDeR_, oops , doesn'r seem to be there
[14:09] <T|-|e_SLiDeR_> lLOL
[14:10] <kaddi> BluesKaj: it is actually a batchfile I'm editing for a friend... so pdf is rather inconvenient. ;) But I took the liberty to check with kde as well and kate automatically recognizes encoding and preserves it. :) I was worrying over nothing
[14:10] <reagleBRKLN> i have a unicode string, that will be used as part a URI (query), I use urllib.quote: quote("search.cgi?query=Pérez-Peña2009knk")
[14:10] <reagleBRKLN> this gives me: 'search.cgi%3Fquery%3DP%C3%A9rez-Pe%C3%B1a2009knk'
[14:10] <BluesKaj> kaddi , cool, good to know for future reference :)
[14:10] <reagleBRKLN> but how do I roundtrip it, get the accented characters back?
[14:10] <reagleBRKLN> oops, sorry
[14:11] <reagleBRKLN> wrong chan
[14:12] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> stil can`t find desktop switcher
[14:23] <kaddi> T|-|e_SLiDeR__: what do you mean by desktop switcher a shortcut? a widget? You can assign the cube or ball or a view of all desktops to one corner under settings ->appearance->desktop effects->desktop corners
[14:24] <kaddi> you can also assign a key combination in the settings somewhere.
[14:25] <kaddi> ctrl-F8 seems to be the default for showing all desktops
[14:25] <topramen> can anyone tell me what telnet is and why they are floating through my pc?<<<<<
[14:30] <DarkTan> how do i wtire scripts for konversation?
[14:30] <DarkTan> write*
[14:33] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> can`t find that here
[14:34] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> I `ve added a widget now.. but can I have different wallpapers on each
[14:39] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__>  can I have different wallpapers on each desktop
[14:41] <borden> by the way anyone knows how I can change wallpaper manually by editing a configuration file (if there exists one)
[14:42] <kaddi> borden: you should find the wallpaper location saved in .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[14:43] <borden> thx kaddi
[14:43] <DarkTan> any one know how to script in konversation?
[14:43] <kaddi> T|-|e_SLiDeR__ it is possible, but I don't think I can walk you through this successfully, sry.
[14:43] <vbgunz> anybody here have a GTX 260? what options/tweaks have you made for top notch performance on KDE4? I ask because prior to a GTX 260 I had a 7950GX2 which performed better and prior to that I had a FX5600 and that just outperformed both of the latter... a true wtf in a sense... am I missing something?
[14:47] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> no problem kaddi
[14:49] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> I`ll just have to do with changing wallpapers regularly
[14:49] <kaddi> T|-|e_SLiDeR__ it seems you can assign an activity to each desktop, and configure your activities seperately, which would lead to every desktop being invidual. There are two threads in the kde forum about:http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=19397 and http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7671
[14:50] <kaddi> T|-|e_SLiDeR__ you know about the slideshow option for desktop background? :) it'll change your desktop for you regularly ;)
[14:50] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> know I don`t know that one
[14:52] <kaddi> T|-|e_SLiDeR__ do a right click on your desktop, select the desktop settings, in the window that opens in the part labeled background, there is a dropdown menu for "type" default is image, but you can also choose slideshow. you can then choose a folder and the period of time after which the image will be changed
[14:54] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> thank you kaddi.. I got that done now :)
[14:54] <harper> Hi, I need to import my e-mail certificates while moving from Windows XP to kubuntu. How do I import these PFX files?
[14:55] <leifdk1978> ?is there a fast way to see wich version on kde on is running
[14:55] <kaddi> leifdk1978: select a program from kde, click on help, click on "about kde" it should show the version :)
[14:55] <leifdk1978> thanx
[14:57] <robin0800> Linux Robins-Laptop 2.6.30-10-generic #12-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 22 16:30:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:59] <Marsu> !de
[14:59] <borden> kaddi: I can change wallpaper only for once using the desktop-settings and wonder if it's related with one of the variables in the config file u gave me (~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc)
[15:00] <borden> might be a karmic bug as well
[15:03] <suman> i am running kubuntu 8.04 and firefox is really buggy... hangs often and takes lot of memory...
[15:03] <suman> any ideas??
[15:04] <T|-|e_SLiDeR__> suman:  have you tried Opera
[15:04] <shadeslayer> suman: try something like rekonq or arora
[15:04] <suman> i have opera...
[15:05] <suman> but is this a known issue with firefox
[15:05] <suman> i am a developer and i love the addon that comes with firefox
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> suman: firefox is a memory hog when you start adding addons
[15:05] <shadeslayer> suman: then thats the problem....the addon
[15:06] <borden> suman: which version of firefox your using?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> suman: remove addons until it becomes usable, or use a firefox derivitive like swiftfox, firepup or kasenchase
[15:06] <suman> i am using 3.0.11
[15:07] <suman> hmmm... do you guys have problems with firefox and addons as well.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> no, just dislike firefox
[15:08] <borden> what about the latest rc?
[15:08] <borden> here http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html
[15:08] <suman> has anyone tried chrome?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ive liked opera for a long while, always seems faster than firefox, so i use it
[15:08] <shadeslayer> suman: buggier
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> looks like it has promise, just needs tidying
[15:09] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: tried arora or rekonq?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: both of them ?
[15:09] <suman> borden: the latest release are not in the kubuntu repos yet ??
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> not tried arora
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> will give it a look in
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> i gotta jet
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> peace
[15:10] <FloodBotK1> ActionParsnip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:12] <borden> suman: I'm using kubuntu karmic and yes it's in the repo
[15:13] <Marsu> #kubuntu-org.de
[15:14] <suman> borden: i am using hardy heron, how do i check if this version is in the repo or not
[15:17] <borden> suman: "apt-cache search firefox" in the konsole
[15:19] <suman> borden: thanks
[15:19] <borden> suman: this one is filters search results better "apt-cache search firefox-3.5"
[15:20] <suman> borden: thanks again.... but damn, hardy repos do not have 3.5...
[15:20] <suman> i guess it is time to upgrade my laptop
[15:38] <kaddi> If I have Firefox 3.0 running will it get updatet automatically to  3.5 or do I have to do this manually?
[15:40] <tsimpson> kaddi: there is a separate package for 3.5 currently, firefox-3.5
[15:40] <kaddi> yes I see it. I've read online that this is a RC-package, which is why I asked
[15:41] <kaddi> 3.5~b4~hg20090330r24021+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[15:41] <kaddi> is 20090330 the date the package was built?
[15:41] <tsimpson> that would be the date the snapshot of svn was taken
[15:41] <kaddi> what does that mean?
[15:42] <tsimpson> or whatever CVS mozilla are using
[15:42] <tsimpson> !cvs
[15:42] <tsimpson> it's an online repository of the development work
[15:42] <kaddi> hehe, I'm familiar with cvs and svn, I don't know what you mean by snapshot. is it when the file was last updated, last indexed, last uploaded, last modified?
[15:43] <kaddi> or none of the above? :p
[15:43] <tsimpson> it's the date someone did a checkout of it
[15:44] <kaddi> ok :)
[15:45] <kaddi> so it doesn't really tell me if the package was updated in the last couple of days
[15:46] <tsimpson> it does, when the package is remade against a more recent svn, the version will be updated
[15:51] <kaddi> ok, thank you :)
[15:51] <Ahmuck> i've got a ati radeon card.  is there a way to turn off effects, it's causing me problems
[15:54] <kaddi> I'll guess I wait to see if the package gets updated in the next couple of days, now that the final version is available :)
[15:55] <JuJuBee> Any idea why when I click on "Leave", the restart icon is missing? (Default ? icon)
[15:56] <JuJuBee> I have system-restart.png in /usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/actions etc...
[16:03] <Zorael> JuJuBee: I think there was a change in the icon name, from restart to reboot (or the other way around)
[16:03] <Zorael> JuJuBee: so if you find the different system-restart.png's and symlink them to system-reboot.png, should hopefully display properly (after a logout)
[16:05] <JuJuBee> Zorael: where to I create the symlink, same folder?
[16:05] <Zorael> JuJuBee: yeah
[16:06] <jhutchins_wk> kaddi: I wouldn't expect official packages to be ready before Mozilla makes it an official release instead of an rc.
[16:07] <kaddi> jhutchins_wk: official release was yesterday, no?
[16:08] <jhutchins_wk> kaddi: 3.0.11 is still the current release on the mozilla web page.
[16:08] <JuJuBee> Zorael: should I need to restart to take effect?
[16:08] <JuJuBee> or just logout
[16:09] <Zorael> JuJuBee: a logout should do it; I don't think the effects of the change should be immediately obvious before the icon cache is flushed, and I don't know any command to force that
[16:09] <infocentro> que pasa
[16:09] <infocentro> nadien esta conectado
[16:10] <JuJuBee> Zorael: after logout it still not there
[16:10] <infocentro> no entiendo ingles
[16:10] <kaddi> jhutchins_wk ah, ok.. I must have gotten confused somehow. lol. It's promoted on this site: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ which made me think it had been released.
[16:10] <infocentro> jodete
[16:10] <kaddi> !es
[16:11] <Zorael> JuJuBee: So which files did you symlink? One for each size of system-restart.png?
[16:11] <JuJuBee> yes
[16:11] <infocentro> fuel
[16:12] <Zorael> JuJuBee: So the following command has the following output? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/207017/
[16:12] <broken> evil
[16:12] <Zorael> JuJuBee: er, make that http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/207018/
[16:12] <jhutchins_wk> kaddi: Well that's weird, maybe I was seeing a cached page or something.
[16:13] <jhutchins_wk> kaddi: You appear to be correct, 3.5 does appear to be official.
[16:13] <ubsafder> how can i start a script as user1 (not root) at startup of the machine
[16:15] <JuJuBee> Zorael: not exactly, seems the symling is broken for some reason...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/207019/
[16:16] <Zorael> JuJuBee: well that looks about right, not sure then ; /
[16:16] <Machtin> i accidentaly removed the folder view in which you can enter subfolders.. i tried to add another one.. but if i click a folder there it opens dolphin, instead of opening the folder in the folder view... how can i get that one back?
[16:17] <JuJuBee> Why are the links broken?
[16:17] <kaddi> jhutchins_wk: :) But if mozilla hasn't had the to update all of their sites it is also too early to expect an updated package in jaunty-reps I would think. :D
[16:17] <Zorael> JuJuBee: well, only one is broken, isn't it?
[16:18] <JuJuBee> nevermind, I just noticed that...
[16:18] <JuJuBee> Thanks.  Maybe i need to restart?
[16:18] <JuJuBee> are the icons cached?
[16:18] <Zorael> JuJuBee: Perhaps. Or try downloading https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+files/kde-icons-oxygen_4.2.85-0ubuntu2~jaunty1~ppa2_all.deb and installing manually, might work
[16:18] <Zorael> JuJuBee: yeah, think so
[16:19] <Zorael> JuJuBee: anyway, off for a bit, hope it works
[16:19] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[16:20] <Tetsuo> I installed kde on my ubuntu now, how can I switch to it?
[16:22] <Tetsuo> maybe crtl-alt-back
[16:22] <Tetsuo> try it now
[16:25] <jhutchins_wk> kaddi: Ok, looks like it's still officially a release candidate, not an official release.
[16:28] <yoga> jhutchins_wk: are you talking about Firefox 3.5?
[16:29] <jhutchins_wk> yoga: Yes.
[16:29] <yoga> jhutchins_wk: the one in januty/universe?
[16:29] <jhutchins_wk> Actually, the one on the mozilla web page.
[16:32] <yoga> jhutchins_wk: Did you install the release candidate?
[16:33] <JuJuBee> Zorael: FYI, that download seemed to do the trick, thanks again.
[16:33] <jhutchins_wk> yoga: No, I was just trying to figure out what the status is.
[16:34] <jhutchins_wk> A release candidate is unlikely to be packaged by the various distros until it's made an official release.
[16:35] <Dragnslcr> The site makes it look like it's a final release
[16:36] <yoga> jhutchins_wk: How do you know it's a RC?
[16:39] <jhutchins_wk> yoga: That's what it says on the mozilla.com web page.
[16:40] <jhutchins_wk> ...or at least that's what it said 20 minutes ago.
[16:40] <jhutchins_wk> "June 30, 2009 – Mozilla, a public-benefit organization dedicated to promoting choice and innovation on the Internet, today released Firefox® 3.5"
[16:41] <kaddi> jhutchins_wk: It's confusing I see a lot about the RC from two days ago, but I also find some blog entries saying that today the final has been released... no official announcement to be found though :/
[16:41] <kaddi> (blogs on mozilla.org that is ;) )
[16:41] <Dragnslcr> Looks like the final release was within the last hour or two
[16:41] <jhutchins_wk> kaddi: It just updated within the last hour.
[16:42] <kaddi> jhutchins_wk: lol... they did that just to confuse me, I'm sure :p
[16:42] <jhutchins_wk> When I first checked this morning, the main link was 3.0.11, then they had the RC page, now the official release.
[16:43] <jhutchins_wk> THat's like within the last 45 minutes.
[16:43] <yoga> Firefox 3.5 is released
[16:44] <kaddi> jhutchins_wk: Iyeah, I just realised it's the 30. today ;) I thought we were the 1. July today.... which made me believe FF 3.5 had been released yesterday
[16:45] <jhutchins_wk> Guess it depends on your planetary coordinates.
[16:45] <yoga> The download file is firefox-3.5.tar.bz2.
[16:48] <yoga> Are we going to do sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 in a couple of days?
[16:49] <kaddi> lol, yeah that's what started the whole discussion. There already is a firefox-3.5 package in the ubuntu reps, however it seems to be of on of the older release candidates... I would hope that it will get updated soon now. :)
[17:02] <noaXess> !torrent
[17:07] <yoga> Hay Hay Billie Jean not my lover...
[17:09] <noaXess> !search qbittorrent
[17:09] <noaXess> !search qtorrent
[17:09] <Tm_T> !ot | yoga
[17:09] <noaXess> !info qbittorrent
[17:25] <SeanTater> A program (Gwenview) crashed while it was transferring files. How do I make the "docked" frozen transfers disappear?
[17:25] <SeanTater> The stop button has no effect
[17:27] <SeanTater> (BTW: The title has a typo, arrivig should be arriving)
[17:43] <capth> Hello
[17:43] <capth> #include<stdio.h>
[17:50] <JackJizzpumper> hello!
[17:50] <kaddi> hello :)
[17:50] <JackJizzpumper> howdy!
[17:51] <JackJizzpumper> a wide green phosphor CRT screen...
[17:53] <kaddi> uh, I just hit an unkown key combination (probably ctrl-shift-L) and now all my chat-windows in konversation are empty.. :/ Can I get the windows to unclear? Or is that impossible?
[17:57] <JackJizzpumper> kaddi, if you didn't log your conversations, there is not much you can do now.
[17:58] <kaddi> they are logged, they are also still there, but I would like to revert it, so I can scroll up easily and verify if stuff was previously discussed :)
[18:00] <JackJizzpumper> I understand. But it seems you have cleared the conversations. Maybe someone else here can give you a better help.
[18:03] <thefox> Hi there
[18:03] <kaddi> heya :)
[18:04] <thefox> I'm pretty new to kubunu
[18:04] <thefox> migrating to it from windows
[18:04] <thefox> and I have some basic questions
[18:05] <Joe____> yes?
[18:05] <thefox> cayn you tell me how will I choose my default internet connection settings ?
[18:05] <thefox> *can
[18:05] <Joe____> which version of kde do you have? 4.2?
[18:05] <thefox> yes
[18:06] <Joe____> okay. there's a new plasmoid called "network management"
[18:06] <thefox> I see
[18:06] <thefox> I've setup new wired connection
[18:06] <Joe____> good
[18:06] <thefox> with my settings
[18:06] <Joe____> does ist work?
[18:07] <thefox> no, system is connecting automaticaly to eth0 with default settings
[18:07] <thefox> and I don't know how to switch betwin connections
[18:07] <Joe____> one moment. gotta figure that out
[18:08] <thefox> Joe____ : aha, thanks
[18:08] <Joe____> you want to connect via wlan, right? is your wlan device plugged in?
[18:09] <thefox> aha
[18:09] <thefox> it shows tha my cabel is plugged in
[18:10] <Joe____> so you have a cable acces to internet?
[18:10] <thefox> yes
[18:10] <Joe____> hm... actually a stupid question how else would you able to chatt here with me ^^
[18:11] <Joe____> to set the default connection click on the plasmoid and choose "manage connections"
[18:11] <thefox> Joe____:  now I am under windows:)
[18:11] <demian> do you know when new firefox 3.5 will be in repository?
[18:12] <Pici> demian: When its done being tested and built. No eta at this time. Definitely not today.
[18:13] <demian> but in 9.04?
[18:13] <thefox> Joe____ : I had done it. I enabled Connect Automatically option, but there is no reaction
[18:14] <thefox> Joe____ : it is connecting to eth0 with auto detected settings
[18:14] <thefox> Joe____ : not my IP address, not my DNS settings, not my Gateway
[18:14] <Joe____> is the ip adresse methode set to dhcp?
[18:16] <thefox> Joe____ : I don't know what is it :(
[18:16] <thefox> Joe____ : how set it ?
[18:17] <Joe____> thefox: okay let's make it step by step
[18:17] <Joe____> manage connections -> wired -> add
[18:18] <Joe____> check "connect automatically" and that under "ip adress" the method is "dhcp"
[18:19] <thefox> Joe____ : ok
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Joe____, thefox , there is anew network manager that bypasses the widget-network-management app, it's called Wicd and it is very stable and flexible
[18:20] <thefox> BluesKaj : thanks, but how can I install it without internet ?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> I use Wicd for both wifi/wlan0 and wired/eth0 on our linux pcs and laptop
[18:21] <BluesKaj> thefox, are dual booting windows and linux ?
[18:21] <PapaChub> Is the ''recommended'' way to install Firefox via the regular mozilla.com ".tar.gz" download, or is there an "add this repository..." option (yet?)
[18:22] <thefox> BluesKaj : yes, there is two os in my pc now
[18:22] <BluesKaj> PapaChub, no need to add a repos afaik , just sudo aptitude install firefox
[18:22] <PapaChub> Firefox 3.5, I mean
[18:22] <Joe____> ah
[18:23] <PapaChub> BluesKaj, I realized I should have mentioned that right away.  :-}
[18:23] <BluesKaj> thefox ,what ethernet card ?
[18:24] <Joe____> PapaChub: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[18:24] <Joe____> but be warned
[18:24] <thefox> BluesKaj : Realtek
[18:25] <PapaChub> Joe____, Cheers! I don't mind living on the bleeding edge...
[18:25] <Joe____> ^^
[18:25] <thefox> BlueEagle : i think there is no problem with device
[18:26] <thefox> BluesKaj : i think there is no problem with device
[18:26] <Joe____> it's quite strange. normally if your connected via wire you don't have to configure anything
[18:26] <thefox> BluesKaj : because I can see kubuntus reaction when I'm plugging/unplugging cabel
[18:27] <Joe____> thefox: is there any error message
[18:27] <Joe____> ?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> realtek is quite generic  , thefox , lspci ..look for an ethernet controller device
[18:28] <thefox> Joe____ : no, no errors
[18:28] <thefox> BluesKaj : realtek rtl8139/810x
[18:28] <BluesKaj> thefox, Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) or some such
[18:29] <thefox> BluesKaj : realtek rtl8139/810x family fast ethernet nic
[18:30] <BluesKaj> hmm thefox seems like the same one I have ...it should connect you
[18:30] <thefox> BluesKaj: as i see it's not device problem
[18:30] <thefox> but i cant provide my settings
[18:31] <BluesKaj> router or modem , thefox
[18:32] <thefox> BluesKaj : you know, I'm connectiong to my provider via lan connection
[18:32] <BluesKaj> yes, thru a router or a modem ?
[18:32] <thefox> router
[18:33] <thefox> router is d-link, if thats matter
[18:34] <thefox> you know, I have connected to internet under windows and ubuntu
[18:34] <thefox> and do the same steps now in kubuntu
[18:34] <thefox> but it is not connecting with my filled settings
[18:34] <thefox> in connection manager
[18:35] <thefox> it show that connection i've set up is not used
[18:35] <Luigi246> xdcc send #36
[18:36] <BluesKaj> why would you not use the default connection settings that kubuntu provides ?
[18:36] <thefox> to connect with my provider i need fill settings as he (provider) gives me
[18:39] <BluesKaj> most providers assume you are going to run windows , hence those settings won't be the same as Linux
[18:40] <BluesKaj> hostmasks etc will be the same as will IP addresses etc
[18:41] <thefox> BluesKaj : but i'ce connected with internet with this settings with ubuntu
[18:41] <slow-motion> hi
[18:42] <BluesKaj> thefox, but why you are worried about using the providers settings is beyond me, just go with the default settings that HAL provides for you ethernet connection on linux
[18:45] <vbgunz> can someone enlighten me? why when I go to tty 1 - 6 I keep seeing "cannot examine encrypted directory" after I log in? I dont remember ever trying to add encryption manually and I could almost swear when asked in the installer, I said no... whats happening?
[18:48] <thefox> BluesKaj : i cant :(
[18:48] <thefox> You know, I have real Ip address
[18:48] <thefox> I will specify dns and gateway
[18:52] <BluesKaj> thefox, you can always download wicd from http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php , then copy it from the ntfs volume while in kubuntu , then install it
[18:54] <BluesKaj> thefox, actually that's what i did when the widget network manager wouldn't work on our wifi network
[18:54] <thefox> BluesKaj : thanks for advice, i'll try it now
[19:08] <newb09> hello, is there someone who can help me install ubuntu on my toshiba laptop that has vista installed from the manufacturer? please?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> newb09, do want to keep vista ?
[19:08] <newb09> for now yes, until i know for sure ubuntu will work for me
[19:09]  * newb09 knows windows but really wants to get rid of the huge OS eventually
[19:10] <BluesKaj> then the easiest wat is to use wubi to install kubuntu within windows , the you can choose which OS at bootup from the menu
[19:10] <BluesKaj> wat=way
[19:10] <newb09> well i have tried to do that
[19:10] <newb09> and it sends me to a screen with a grub prompt
[19:10] <newb09> and with my attempts to use commands, i get error message 8 - that it needs a kernel installed
[19:11] <newb09> i have no idea what that means, actually, or where to find the kernel *to* install
[19:12] <BluesKaj> start over , go back into windows uninstall kubuntu reboot and try again to install
[19:12] <BluesKaj> uninstall wubi actually
[19:12] <newb09> alright, i have done that as well....i don't think ubuntu is fully uninstalled because.........ah, now where do i find wubi to uninstall?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> in the controlpanel add-remove or uninstall programs
[19:13] <newb09> i still get the option when i boot, whether or not to boot to windows or to ubuntu, so i don't think it's fully uninstalled, but i can't find anything else to install....would a reinstall of windows help?
[19:13] <newb09> i did that, but only found ubuntu
[19:13] <BluesKaj> no wubi ?
[19:14] <newb09> no, no wubi
[19:14] <newb09> hold on, let me recheck, but i know it's not there
[19:14] <BluesKaj> look for wubi in start/all programs
[19:15] <BluesKaj> it has an uninstaller , I think
[19:15] <newb09> it's not there, let me search for it
[19:15] <newb09> no items matched the search
[19:15] <newb09> it's not on my computer
[19:15] <BluesKaj> ok look for kubuntu or ubuntu whichever
[19:16] <newb09> no items match that search either
[19:17] <BluesKaj> look for the downloaded app and remove that
[19:17] <newb09> i actually thought about doing a clean install of windows....i have everything backed up so i can reinstall it easily....would that help?
[19:17] <newb09> and
[19:17] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:18] <newb09> could the problem be because i have an external drive and i forgot about it when i installed ubuntu the first time?
[19:18] <Pici> !ff35 | fyi, kubuntu helpers
[19:20] <BluesKaj> Pici, read an unfavourable review of FF3.5 i Techrepublic ... it's too immature
[19:21] <bartc_> regarding wubi, please check c:\boot.ini for a line starting with c:\wubildr.mbr.  I uninstalled ubuntu on my laptop recently (to switch to kubuntu), and noticed also the ubuntu boot option after uninstalling ubuntu.
[19:21] <Dragnslcr> newb09- did you look in the Add/Remove Programs control panel for wubi? I think that's where you uninstall it from
[19:21] <newb09> i did, Dragnslcr
[19:21] <newb09> i found ubuntu
[19:21] <newb09> but no wubi
[19:22] <bartc_> after installing Kubuntu, the line was changed to mention Kubuntu after installing Kubuntu.
[19:22]  * newb09 has fought with this for a few days
[19:22] <Dragnslcr> newb09- the Ubuntu entry is probably it
[19:22] <newb09> i uninstalled it, Dragnslcr
[19:22] <newb09> ugh ugh ugh
[19:22]  * newb09 thinks this is like fighting with her teenagers!
[19:23] <nikitis> How much bandwidth would playing world of warcraft use if it stayed connected for 1 month?  Roughly?
[19:23] <nikitis> I'm doing network experiments
[19:23] <newb09> i'm about to give up, really....but i seriously want a viable alternative to windows
[19:23] <Pici> !offtopic | nikitis
[19:23] <bartc_> If you uninstalled Ubuntu,it should be safe to remove this line I think to get rid of the boot option.
[19:23] <BluesKaj> newb09, I think you'll find that if you do a clean install of Kubuntu first you won't want to go back to Vista
[19:24] <newb09> well, the problem is how do i DO a clean install of kubuntu? and is kubuntu different from ubuntu?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> !desktop
[19:24] <bartc_> Using Control Panel/System/Advanced/Startup and Recovery, you also get to this file..
[19:24] <nikitis> newb09: the underlying OS is the same, but the user interfaces are different.
[19:25] <newb09> y'all, please be patient with me, i am a serious newbie with linux anything, and i am not that great with computer terminology....it's like greek to me and i am language challenged
[19:25] <nikitis> newb09: you'd be better off using ubuntu.  KDE has too many little problems atm, but soon they won't
[19:26] <BluesKaj> ok newb09  ,if you a prefer a windows-like environment then Kubuntu is the way to go
[19:26] <newb09> i don't mind the environment....but when i go to message boards and try to find out what to do, they're all speaking "linux-ese"' and i am totally lost
[19:27] <newb09> i don't mind learning a new way to work :)
[19:27] <BluesKaj> gnome is a little drastic compared to MS windows
[19:27] <newb09> a friend has been looking at ubuntu for a long time, and he finally downloaded it and LOVES it....that's how i got interested in it
[19:28] <newb09> but all he did was download the OS, copy it to a disk, and reboot with the disk in the drive, of course it worked perfectly!
[19:28] <BluesKaj> newb09, it's not a prob , we were all new to this once :) ...kubuntu -kde is more familiar looking for former windowa users
[19:28] <newb09> so maybe i should download kubuntu instead?
[19:28] <Dragnslcr> newb09- yeah, the LiveCD ability is pretty nice
[19:29] <ahmed> hi
[19:29] <BluesKaj> that's my recommendation , newb09
[19:29] <newb09> alright, another question...
[19:30] <newb09> is downloading and burning the cd the same as what i would get if i had it mailed to me?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> dunno , never installed kubuntu from a mailer ..always burned and installed
[19:31] <newb09> have you ever done it within windows?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> yes, mylaptop
[19:32] <BluesKaj> used wubi
[19:32] <newb09> and should the fact that i have windows that was installed from the manufacturer make a difference? i read something about partitions and such (greek to me) that made me wonder
[19:33] <Machtin> i accidentaly removed the folder view in which you can enter subfolders.. i tried to add another one.. but if i click a folder there it opens dolphin, instead of opening the folder in the folder view... how can i get that one back?
[19:33] <moreno> al guien me dice la pagina de ubuntu en español
[19:34] <BluesKaj> newb09, some ppl, myself includedlike to keep a windows version on their pcs , which can live alongside linux by both having their own partition , yes
[19:35] <BluesKaj> !es | moreno
[19:35] <moreno> ok
[19:35] <newb09> well, could a partition be a problem then? and if so, how do i know it is, and how would i solve it?
[19:35]  * newb09 doesn't ask hard questions :)
[19:36] <BluesKaj> Machtin, open widgets , folder view is available there
[19:37] <nikitis> Is there an app to monitor how much bandwidth a PID is using?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> newb09, I suggest you ask your friend to help ypu with partitioning , it's a bit difficult to do from here :)
[19:39] <newb09> lol, he has no clue, his worked perfectly....it's alright, i am just really frustrated with this.....would kubuntu have the same problem if it is a partitioning problem?
[19:42] <newb09> alright, i am going to download kubuntu, then i'll have both CDs, and use whichever one i can get to work first!
[19:42] <BluesKaj> newb09, the easiest way IMO is to wipe the hard drive/reformat it to ext3 using a live cd called GParted , the install kubuntu. As yousay if things don't work out , you can always reinstall windows
[19:43] <newb09> oh
[19:43] <newb09> GParted.....i can download that?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:43] <newb09> thank you BluesKaj
[19:44] <newb09> i know i'm asking really basic questions, and not easy to answer specifically, but thank you for the help
[19:44] <newb09> one day i am going to have a best buddy who is a computer expert! :D
[19:44] <BluesKaj> np, don't hesitate to come back and ask for help if you need it , newb09
[19:44] <newb09> i appreciate that, see you :)
[19:46] <nikitis> Anyone?
[19:48] <skizoo> I people....one question...where can i found irc servers??
[19:49] <skizoo> cause konversation only have this one
[19:49] <tonii_> server list, most likely? depends on client though I suppose
[19:49] <BluesKaj> nikitis, http://sourceforge.net/projects/bwmon/
[19:51] <skizoo> ah ok...thanks to g.o.g.le i found my list xD
[19:58] <markrodriguez> i am running dual OS kubuntu and xp
[19:59] <markrodriguez> i'm trying it figure out how to get the music i had in xp into my amarok.. any answers?
[20:03] <AndorinKato> Hi, guys, quick question that will actually be answerable this time. My friend downloaded a driver for her wireless card and needs to compile it, but doesn't know how. The files are here: http://pastebin.com/d4edbb9f2 Can someone give me the correct commands to pass onto her?
[20:05] <instructor_> does she havea compiler ?
[20:06] <instructor_> AndorinKato: plus I'm guessing that readme26.txt would be interesting
[20:06] <AndorinKato> instructor_: She has GCC
[20:08] <instructor_> AndorinKato: where did she get thse from?
[20:08] <AndorinKato> instructor_: The readme doesn't contain any instructions.
[20:09] <instructor_> I'm assuming this is madwifi or ndiswrapper ?
[20:09] <vadrao> AndorinKato: What is the name of the file
[20:09] <AndorinKato> Neither, it's the driver for a wireless card she's installed, some Realtek piece
[20:10] <AndorinKato> She's getting the link now
[20:10] <AndorinKato> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=5&PFid=5&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8180L
[20:11] <vadrao> The commands are usually like this : ./compile <with compile options>
[20:11] <vadrao> then "make" and "make install"
[20:11] <vadrao> Do them with a sudo command
[20:12] <AndorinKato> Alright, and what about these options? What might she need to do?
[20:13] <instructor_> There is no configure script there
[20:13] <KrispyKreme> I have a canon pixma 470. Where/what are the correct drivers I need?
[20:13] <markrodriguez> just installed Kubuntu 9.04 on top of Windows XP, and you'd like to figure out how to access documents from your windows partition
[20:13] <markrodriguez> 03:13:09 pm
[20:13] <markrodriguez> mrug13  
[20:13] <markrodriguez> yerah, no one told me how i could get my media
[20:13] <FloodBotK2> markrodriguez: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <markrodriguez> ooops sorry.. i just installed it and owuld like ot know how to get documents in my windows partition.. thanks.
[20:14] <vadrao> AndorinKato: First she needs to install the compilers (gcc stuff). To do that run this command in the terminal "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[20:15] <AndorinKato> vadrao: She can't, she doesn't have a connection to the Internet until she gets her wireless working.
[20:15] <AndorinKato> Besides, I already said she has gcc.
[20:15] <instructor_> AndorinKato: try make then sudo make install
[20:16] <vadrao> Then go to the directory in which she has unzipped the files in the terminal and then run this command "sudo make install"
[20:18] <KrispyKreme> how do i install firefox 3.5 on kubuntu?
[20:20] <vadrao> Firefox 3.5 has not been released in the repos for kbuntu I think.. The firefox 3.5 in the repos trys to install gnome crap along
[20:20] <vadrao> If you want to try Firefox 3.5 then just download it and unzip it and run the "firefox" file in it.
[20:20] <instructor_> KrispyKreme: wait for backports upgrade to Koala or visit http://getfirefox.com
[20:21] <sven> can someone tell me how to format my micro sd card in kubuntu? Its in a SD adapter, and the SD adaper is plugged in my card reader... When I plug a CF card in the card reader, Gparted detects the disk, when I plug in the micro sd card (in the adapter), gparted doens't detect a thing...
[20:25] <AndorinKato> instructor_: http://pastebin.com/mb06ad87
[20:27] <markrodriguez> if i install kubuntu on top of an xp install how does it partition the drive by default?
[20:28] <instructor_> markrodriguez: uses the free space on teh XP drive unless you have another drive in the computer I think
[20:28] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Crap
[20:28] <instructor_> She needs the linux headers
[20:29] <markrodriguez> instructor_:thanks.
[20:29] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Ok, so what are Linux headers?
[20:29] <instructor_> AndorinKato: The source code for the linux kernel she's using
[20:29] <markrodriguez> instructor_:does it resize the old windows partition and create a new ext3 one?
[20:29] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Er... what does she need that for?
[20:30] <instructor_> AndorinKato: The drivers need to know what options and calls they are going to make
[20:31] <instructor_> AndorinKato: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[20:31] <instructor_> markrodriguez: Yes
[20:31] <AndorinKato> Oh, LOVELY! This is exactly what the last four days have been like. Simple issue, no problem, we fix it but nope, there's an error, ok, let's fix the error- no, our error fix gets an error! This one is more complicated! Fine, let's fix it... nope, another error!
[20:31] <AndorinKato> instructor_: She does /not/ have an Internet connection.
[20:32] <marco> come faccio ad installa xorg versione RC7.4 per ATI HD 2400
[20:32] <marco> hi ppl
[20:32] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Ah that's always a problem with getting the network working
[20:32] <instructor_> I remember doing the same thing with Windows 98
[20:32] <instructor_> go to a friends house to get something doesnt work go back getsomething else
[20:32] <markrodriguez> instructor_:thanks
[20:33] <AndorinKato> instructor_: She doesn't have anywhere she can go, and there aren't any wired connections in the house that she can use.
[20:33] <instructor_> !it | marco
[20:33] <markrodriguez> instructor_:is there a command i can run to output a list of all my partitions and their filesystem whether they're mounted or not
[20:33] <instructor_> sudo fdisk -l ; mount
[20:33] <marco> it's ok, let's talk in english
[20:33] <AndorinKato> Right now she's on Feisty Kubuntu because for some reason her computer will NOT let her run a Jaunty CD. She's tried it with TWO separate CDs and it won't do it.
[20:34] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Ah feisty hmm
[20:34] <marco> I have installed kubuntu jaunty
[20:34] <Pici> AndorinKato: Feisty is no longer supported and the repositories are no longer online.
[20:34] <AndorinKato> Well, it doesn't matter much anyway since she /can't connect/.
[20:34] <marco> I have already installed, but got some some problem with audio loading flgrx driver
[20:35] <instructor_> AndorinKato: where is this?
[20:35] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Where? What?
[20:35] <instructor_> Where is she? at home?
[20:35] <ugur> hi people. Does anyone use Kvpnc 0.9.1 with KDE 4?
[20:36] <AndorinKato> Yes. She's upstairs with her computer, which can't connect except via wireless. The downstairs PC, which also connects with wireless, DOES work, so she has some access to the Internet.
[20:38] <AndorinKato> We have been working for over three days trying to get her wireless to work, trying a crapton of things, and we are getting /reeeeally/ fed up with everything.
[20:38] <AndorinKato> Last night she switches out her wireless card, after we discover that three separate operating systems will not detect it no matter what we do. The new card shows up but she needs drivers for it to run in Kubuntu.
[20:38] <KDesk> I would also know how to install firefox 3.5 (but 64 bit) for Jaunty?
[20:39] <jimmy51_> KDesk:  sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:39] <markrodriguez> instructor_:thanks
[20:39] <vadrao> Firefox 3.5 is not yet updated in the repos
[20:39] <KDesk> jimmy51_: but that installs firefox 3.0
[20:40] <jimmy51_> KDesk: ah
[20:40] <vadrao> KDesk: You have to wait for the repos to get updated or get it from firefox.com
[20:40] <KDesk> I can not find 64 bit version in the mozilla ftp.
[20:40] <instructor_> AndorinKato: and she has feisty ?
[20:40] <jimmy51_> KDesk: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html
[20:40] <AndorinKato> So either: Someone please tell me a comparatively painless way to get her drivers to work, OR someone tell me why her computer would be refusing to load Kubuntu Jaunty on live CDs.
[20:40] <jimmy51_> KDesk: if there's no 64 bit version in those repositories, you'll probably have to compile it
[20:41] <instructor_> AndorinKato: that was my next question what happens with the Jaunty Live CDs ?
[20:41] <KDesk> jimmy51_: thanks for the link!
[20:41] <shanipribadi> AndorinKato: i found this about rtl8180l and feisty http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481422
[20:42] <AndorinKato> instructor_: The error is that she goes to boot them from the CD and at a certain point before the desktop appears, the screen goes black.
[20:42] <AndorinKato> instructor_: She says "I get through the loading screen and to one that says Starting KDE Display Manager (KDM) and a couple of things and then black."
[20:43] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Did she try the safe graphics mode?
[20:44] <KDesk> since FF 3.5. this is insane http://downloadstats.mozilla.com/
[20:44] <AndorinKato> Asking...
[20:44] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, may i ask how old is the pc and what cpu ?
[20:44] <Tacosarecool> hello
[20:44] <AndorinKato> Hi, BluesKaj, it's a Dell Dimension 4600 and it's only a few years old.
[20:45] <AndorinKato> instructor_: She hasn't yet, because she says she's had past experience with that not working, but she will try it soon
[20:45] <Tacosarecool> I have error 17 on neogrub
[20:46] <KrispyKreme> is there a way to update ALL the programs that needs updating in kubuntu 9.04?
[20:47] <Tacosarecool> yum krispy kreme
[20:47] <vadrao> KrispyKreme: sudo aptitude update and sudo aptitude upgrade
[20:47] <KrispyKreme> vadrao, thanks. willl give it a try
[20:48] <instructor_> KrispyKreme: from the command line sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade or from the GUI open kpackagekit and go to software updattes and click select all
[20:49] <markrodriguez> instructor_:'ve temporarily mounted my ntfs partition by running "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/xpdrive". how can i make it mount automatically on boot?
[20:49] <instructor_> AndorinKato: It may be trying to turn on some fancy effects that are not reacting as expected
[20:49] <instructor_> !fstab | markrodriguez
[20:49] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Graphical effects?
[20:50] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Since compiz started spinning a cube people want fancy effects on by default so the Live CDs turn them on to act as a test
[20:50] <instructor_> Safe graphics should disable them
[20:50] <AndorinKato> instructor_: I guess that makes sense, but the problem is that Jaunty worked fine before yesterday.
[20:50] <KrispyKreme> vadrao, instructor_: thanks, my system is fully updated
[20:51] <instructor_> AndorinKato: eh? Hmm so... the Cd got scratched?
[20:51] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Two separate CDs, remember?
[20:51] <vadrao> AndorinKato: I might suggest using the usb as the install medium and try
[20:52] <AndorinKato> vadrao: Is there a way to create a Kubuntu installer on a flash drive, then?
[20:52] <vadrao> usb installation will be faster aswell
[20:52] <vadrao> Yes
[20:52] <vadrao> AndorinKato: Yes
[20:52] <gonzalo> hola
[20:52] <vadrao> AndorinKato: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:52] <KrispyKreme> is there a way to "slipstream" a kubuntu disk will all the current updates like in windows xp?
[20:53] <AndorinKato> vadrao: Thanks, I passed that on to her and if safe graphics mode doesn't fix it she might go for that.
[20:54] <vadrao> AndorinKato: Download that software onto your Windows or linux machine and then give it the .iso file which you have dowloaded.. Then it will populate the usb.. Then insert it and restart the machine,, Remember to change the bios settings accordingly
[20:54] <donnat> I'm getting uber slow OpenGL in games (less than 1 frame every 10 seconds). But SDL games, Compiz, and glxgears (750FPS) are fine. <http://pastebin.com/m3e0e8fc9>
[20:54] <Dragnslcr> KrispyKreme- dunno about slipstreaming, but you can easily download updated packages and burn them to a CD
[20:54] <vadrao> AndorinKato: Also saves valuble cd's :-)
[20:54] <AndorinKato> vadrao: Right, it looks pretty straightforward. She left to try safe graphics mode now.
[20:54] <Dragnslcr> !aptoncd | KrispyKreme
[20:55] <KrispyKreme> !offline
[20:56] <instructor_> KrispyKreme: yes
[20:57] <KrispyKreme> is there some kind of defense mechanism I could get for kubuntu, such as an alarm when the AC is unplugged from the laptop or when the touchpad/mouse is moved?
[20:57] <instructor_> AndorinKato: if it still dies in safe graphics mode press alt+ctrl+F1 and type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[20:57] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Ok
[20:59] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Safe graphics mode does not fix it, she gets the same issue,
[20:59] <instructor_> AndorinKato: try the thing I said
[21:00] <AndorinKato> instructor_: She said she can't even bring up a terminal.
[21:00] <vadrao> AndorinKato: at the blank screen just press CTRL+ALT+F1
[21:01] <AndorinKato> vadrao: She did, and it doesn't /do/ anything.
[21:01] <vadrao> AndorinKato: No message or text what so ever ? Just plain vanila black
[21:02] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Does caps lock work?
[21:03] <Dragnslcr> KrispyKreme- I would expect there's a program or system setting to bring up a notification for switching from line to battery power. I dunno if there would be anything for when the mouse is moved
[21:03] <AndorinKato> vadrao: Indeed.
[21:03] <AndorinKato> instructor_: She's checking.
[21:03] <suke> hi
[21:04] <instructor_> !hi | suke
[21:04] <suke> im really REALLY new to ubuntu, and im also not good at computers
[21:04] <suke> i cant install anything on ubuntu for some reason
[21:04] <instructor_> AndorinKato: If the Splashscreen came up she should be able to alt+ctrl+F1 at least at that point
[21:04] <instructor_> suke: What have you tried?
[21:05] <suke> No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file.
[21:05] <suke> that comes up
[21:05] <Dragnslcr> What kind of file is it?
[21:05] <vadrao> suke: What were you trying to install ?
[21:05] <suke> btw could u not use any technical jargon terms, i dont know anything about computers or its terminology
[21:05] <suke> its a bionicle game >.>....
[21:06] <AndorinKato> instructor_: If that is the case, where does that even get her?
[21:06] <jhutchins_wk> suke: So learn.  We'll help.  We'll try to be gentle.  What kind of file is it?
[21:06] <Dragnslcr> Never even heard of that
[21:06] <AndorinKato> instructor_: No, caps lock does not work.
[21:06] <instructor_> AndorinKato: ha.
[21:06] <vadrao> suke: How did you donwload that file.. from where ?
[21:06] <instructor_> oh crap. Which splash screen? the first one?
[21:06] <KrispyKreme> I have this shiretoko web browser I want to remove. How do I do it?
[21:06] <instructor_> right after the first menu ?
[21:07] <markrodriguez> instructor_:thanks
[21:07] <AndorinKato> instructor_: She says yes, the loading one.
[21:07] <Dragnslcr> KrispyKreme- if you installed it through the package manager, you can uninstall it through the package manager
[21:07] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Ahh ah right no alt+ctrl wouldn't work at that point.
[21:07] <suke_> ><
[21:08] <AndorinKato> Mmhmm.
[21:08] <instructor_> suke_: open kpackagekit and install wine
[21:08] <KrispyKreme> Dragnslcr, I installed it through the terminal
[21:08] <Dragnslcr> KrispyKreme- using apt?
[21:08] <AndorinKato> So do you think she should try for making a USB installation?
[21:08] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Thought you were talking about a different splash screen. Did this happen after she put in the new card?
[21:08] <KrispyKreme> Dragnslcr, it gives me this message: : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:08] <KrispyKreme> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:08] <instructor_> KrispyKreme: close kpackagekit
[21:08] <Dragnslcr> KrispyKreme- make sure no other programs are using apt
[21:08] <jhutchins_wk> suke: What's the full filename of the package you tried to install?
[21:08] <suke_> whats kpackagekit
[21:09] <Dragnslcr> suke_- the package manager for Kubuntu
[21:09] <suke_> bionicle
[21:09] <instructor_> suke_: press alt+f2 and then type kpackage
[21:09] <instructor_> jhutchins_wk: bionicle.exe I'm guessing
[21:10] <suke_> Could not open location 'file:///kpackagekit' The location or file could not be found.
[21:10] <suke_> ?
[21:11] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Well, she says that the Jaunty CDs haven't worked since she put the new card in. However, at roughly the same time she also installed Windows 7 on a partition, so it could be either of those though I don't know why Windows would be messing with Kubuntu.
[21:11] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, Dell Dimension 4600 is prolly 5 yrs old with 512RAM , if so,that's barely meeting jaunty or even intrepid requirements for memory, hence the prob with trying to run those OS live cds
[21:11] <suke_> i clicked "show list of known applications" and there was nothing there
[21:12] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: But it ran them just fine before yesterday, and I think she has more than 512 MB RAM.
[21:12] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:12] <suke_> i clicked "show list of known applications" and there was nothing there
[21:12] <suke_> Could not open location 'file:///kpackagekit' The location or file could not be found.
[21:12] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: Yeah, she has 1 GB.
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> BluesKaj: Wow, I build systems on 512k every day using CentOS 4.7.
[21:13] <KrispyKreme> instructor_, I got it removed now. thanks
[21:14] <suke_> is kubuntu diffrent from ubuntu?
[21:14] <suke_> ...
[21:14] <shanipribadi_> suke: quite a bit
[21:14] <suke_> i think im in the wrong irc
[21:14] <suke_> =_=
[21:14] <shanipribadi_> suke: are you using kubuntu?
[21:15] <instructor_> AndorinKato: highly unlikely it's windows 7. Does windows 7 see the card ?
[21:15] <KrispyKreme> AndorinKato, you could try the remix edition. it's designed for netbooks so it requires less ram
[21:15] <instructor_> are you using kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[21:16] <kaddi> is there a good tutorial how wireless works on kubuntu? And what the network clients really do, when I start them?
[21:16] <kaddi> Because right now, I'm quite confused... I had lost my internet connection and killing wicd (the daemon, not the gui), brought my internet back to life. o.0
[21:16] <AndorinKato> instructor_: It sees it and automatically installed a driver, but she's paranoid about going online with an unpatched Windows 7 beta version.
[21:16] <Blues-Man> hello
[21:17] <Blues-Man> i have several problems with jaunty jackalope on my kubuntu
[21:17] <shanipribadi_> kaddi: why are you using wicd? since my kubuntu started with network applet
[21:17] <Blues-Man> about video and wifi
[21:17] <instructor_> AndorinKato: :-) You mean it might disable itself?
[21:17] <Blues-Man> i'm lost in launchpad threads..the problems comes on an update in April
[21:17] <kaddi> shanipribadi_ because network applet is unable to connect to wpa2 encoded networks in jaunty
[21:18] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Yeah. Plus she wants to move to using Linux full-time.
[21:18] <instructor_> AndorinKato: baptized in fire it seems
[21:18] <AndorinKato> Which I personally think is a great choice except when things DO NOT WORK. :(
[21:19] <kaddi> AndorinKato: did you figure out your wireless problems? was the card faulty? (I'm just being curious :) )
[21:19] <BluesKaj>  the w7 firewall is quite good, linux driver sites are quite safe IMO , I've had to just that in the past to DL linux drivers in Windows to repair/restore linux hardware drivers
[21:19] <instructor_> AndorinKato: depends on who you are. I like when things don't work as getting them working makes you learn so much
[21:19] <AndorinKato> kaddi: Kubuntu Jaunty wouldn't recognize the card, Feisty wouldn't recognize the card and Windows 7 wouldn't recognize the card. I think we've determined that it's the card.
[21:19] <instructor_> BluesKaj: I think the fear is that the beta will update itself and then die
[21:20] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Sure, except when you have to spend days on what should be a comparatively simple issue.
[21:20] <KrispyKreme> BluesKaj, do you really need a firewall in kubuntu?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> she can turn the updates off in W7 control panel
[21:20] <mot> anybody know what directory plugins should be copied to for firefox 3.5?
[21:20] <instructor_> AndorinKato: yeah agreed. So I'm going on the assumption that the card is somehow causing the issue. when she bootsh the live CD can she press F6 at the menu and remove the words quiet and splash ?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> KrispyKreme, i was using windows at the time
[21:20] <mot> i tried /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and neither works
[21:21] <instructor_> KrispyKreme: no but a firewall is a godo idea
[21:21] <mot> also tried to look in ~/.mozilla/ and there was no plugins folder...
[21:21] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: I think her version isn't going to die out anytime soon, it's supposed to last for quite a while
[21:21] <BluesKaj> !firewall | KrispyKreme
[21:22] <BluesKaj> !virus | KrispyKreme
[21:24] <instructor_> AndorinKato: that should show what happened before it freaks out if it's a aCPI issue we can bypass that
[21:24] <shanipribadi_> kaddi: are you using jaunty? currently im using a wpa2 network with network applet, kde4.2.4 from kubuntu ppa updates. Since it is the default, i prefer it over wicd.
[21:24] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Ok, passing on
[21:24] <KrispyKreme> so ubuntu/kubuntu may not be vulnerable to viruses, but what about phishing/hacking?
[21:24] <instructor_> Whoops class is back in session :)
[21:25] <BluesKaj> AndorinKato, being cautious is a good thing , W7 is still pretty safe ...I would go ahead and DL the needed drivers in W7 .. Idid the same thing , didn't get infected
[21:25] <instructor_> KrispyKreme: it's vunerable to viruses phishing and hacking
[21:25] <AndorinKato> instructor_: I think for the moment the plan is to get her online in Windows, so perhaps I can get her in here
[21:25] <AndorinKato> BluesKaj: She did download the drivers but she can't compile them
[21:25] <instructor_> AndorinKato: Ah umm ok
[21:25] <instructor_> and from feisty she won'tbe able to
[21:26] <shanipribadi_> !wireless
[21:27] <KrispyKreme> instructor_, what firewall/antivirus do you suggest I get?
[21:27] <instructor_> KrispyKreme: you have a fw already and you shouldn't need Av
[21:27] <Dragnslcr> KrispyKreme- every operating system is vulnerable to stupid users
[21:27] <kaddi> shanipribadi_ When I first upgraded to jaunty there was no way to connect to WPA2.. It connected to unsecure networks just fine, but simply didn't do anything if secured networks were concerned. I switched to wicd back then, which immediately recognized and connected to the network. So far wicd has also been much more stable than knetworkmanager ever was (and I've been using it since Dapper), so I will stay with it. ;) My interest is
[21:27] <kaddi> rather independent from the client in itself.. I would actually like to now what happens behind the scenes, where you tell ubuntu to connect to wifi, where the key is stored and this kind of stuff
[21:27] <mot> nobody knows where the plugins folder is for ff3.5?
[21:27] <instructor_> see the link given as to why
[21:28] <BluesKaj> !firefox3.5
[21:28] <Dragnslcr> KrispyKreme- you shouldn't need a running firewall, since the only ports that are listening for connections are ones for normal programs that you run
[21:29] <BluesKaj> !info firefox3.5
[21:29] <Dragnslcr> !info firefox-3.5
[21:29] <BluesKaj> someone posted a repos for ff3.5 a few hrs ago ,but i don't see it now
[21:29] <KrispyKreme> Dragnslcr, I learned that the hard way on Windows. haha
[21:30] <KrispyKreme> BluesKaj, this one? http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html
[21:30] <shanipribadi_> kaddi: i see, well, before i upgraded to jaunty i had been reading about wireless stuffs and had dled wicd, (cos i had read somewhere that jaunty had some problems with secured wifi, but apparently i was lucky). You could try the ubuntu wiki, and google for wireless documentation, or wicd documentation
[21:30] <BluesKaj> KrispyKreme, I've been on kubuntu for 5 yrs , no virus yet
[21:31] <kaddi> shanipribadi_ the wifidocs actually have a rather technical introduction, that I'm lucking at right now... should help me along the way, thanks :)
[21:31] <kaddi> *looking
[21:31] <KrispyKreme> BluesKaj, I've been on kubuntu for a month now. Not looking back to Windows
[21:32] <BluesKaj> I'll wait for a while for FF3.5 to become more mature , I've read some disappointing reviews
[21:32] <shanipribadi_> there's firefox-3.5 on the official repos
[21:33] <KrispyKreme> shanipribadi, really?
[21:33] <shanipribadi_> KrispyKreme: on universe
[21:33] <kaddi> shanipribadi_ yes but the firefox-3.5 is built from a RC, it is not the final release
[21:34] <BluesKaj> KrispyKreme, I still keep a windows partition handy since my family and friends rely on me for windows advice , not that I'm any windows guru or anything
[21:34] <markrodriguez> instructor_: i installed the nvidia 180 driver and for some reason my resolution is squished.. part of the monitor is black and i can't run the mouse over it and the other side i could keep going and the mouse disapears.. whatdo i do/
[21:34] <mot> i'm not seeing an amd64 release on mozilla.com
[21:34] <shanipribadi_> kaddi: there's already a final release?? i didn't know that, for how long? well, try gg:site:launchpad.net ppa firefox-3.5
[21:34] <mot> only i686
[21:35] <Dragnslcr> shanipribadi_- final release of 3.5 was today. Hopefully we'll get packages in a few days
[21:35] <kaddi> shanipribadi_ I think there has been a final release for about 6 hours or so. :p
[21:35] <AndySpain> hi
[21:35] <AndySpain> can anybody please help me set up my wifi on my hp pavillion laptop?
[21:35] <KrispyKreme> how do i know which "package" i have,such as universe, etc?
[21:35] <instructor_> hi AndySpain
[21:35] <AndySpain> hi instructor_!
[21:36] <BluesKaj> markrodriguez, which nvidia card and which monitor ?
[21:36] <AndySpain> everything but the wifi works fine here
[21:37] <shanipribadi_> KrispyKreme: from cli, you can read /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:37] <markrodriguez> instructor_:tough one,venturer 27in and the card is a 256mb ddr 3.. is that enough? i could look itup in my windows book
[21:37] <instructor_> !wifi
[21:37] <markrodriguez> boot*
[21:37] <BluesKaj> AndySpain, wired connect eth0 works ok ?
[21:37] <shanipribadi_> KrispyKreme: if you want to use GUI, you can open Package manager and find the option to edit sources
[21:38] <AndySpain> BluesKaj yes, eth0 works and is the onyl device shown in the network maanger
[21:38] <BluesKaj> markrodriguez, in the terminal: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:39] <shanipribadi_> i found a ppa on launchpad with "firefox-3.5 - 3.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1~jaunty". what does nobinonly means?
[21:39] <KrispyKreme> shanipribadi, sweet, it looks like i have universe enabled
[21:39] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Just so you know, we're still planning to fix it, just need a break from all this madness ;-;
[21:39] <BluesKaj> AndySpain, you are using the widget-network-manager then , right ?
[21:39] <markrodriguez> 8600 gt
[21:39] <markrodriguez> instructor_:8600 gt
[21:39] <instructor_> markrodriguez: sudo  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[21:39] <AndySpain> BluesKaj, correct. I know no CLI commands
[21:39] <AndySpain> BluesKaj, the green globe in panel
[21:40] <shanipribadi_> KrispyKreme: but the universe only has firefox 3.5 beta, not official release
[21:40] <BluesKaj> AndySpain, which kubuntu version , intrepid ?
[21:40] <KrispyKreme> shanipribadi, how do I enable like multiverse/ etc?
[21:40] <KrispyKreme> and is it recommended?
[21:41] <KrispyKreme> wait, nevermind.
[21:41] <AndySpain> BluesKaj, yes intrepid still
[21:41] <instructor_> AndorinKato: ping me when you are ready
[21:41] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Thank you, will do.
[21:42] <AndySpain> BluesKaj, right now I won't upgrade due to other factors.
[21:43] <markrodriguez> instructor_:my keyborad won't let me type my password in after i type that command in
[21:43] <KrispyKreme> does anyone use a program called "sweeper"?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> kaddi, did you say you ran wicd on intrepid , did you uninstall knetworkmanager first or just disable it?
[21:43] <instructor_> markrodriguez: it is
[21:43] <instructor_> markrodriguez: type it normally. it's going in it's just not echoing anythign back
[21:44] <kaddi> BluesKaj:  no I ran wicd only on jaunty.. I've run knetworkmanager before, which is why I prefer wicd ;)
[21:44] <kaddi> BluesKaj: but if you want to do some test, I still have gutsy on a laptop whih is basically only used for messing around
[21:44] <mot> if you install wicd it should automatically uninstall knetworkmanager and re-associate the service for wicd
[21:45] <BluesKaj> no kaddi , i;m asking on behalf of AndySpain , should he just install wicd , or will there be a conflict with knetworkmanager ?
[21:46] <shanipribadi_> you cant have both wicd and knetworkmanager i think, cos they're in conflict, so installing one will remove the other
[21:46] <kaddi> BluesKaj: I can only tell you for jaunty. Wicd automatically removed networkmanager on jaunty. I don't know for intrepid
[21:47] <BluesKaj> mot , yes i know that works for the widget-manager, but are you sure wicd will delete knetworkmanager ?
[21:48] <BluesKaj> AndySpain, in the terminal : sudo aptitude install wicd
[21:48] <kaddi> BluesKaj: it removed networkmanager and the frontends knetworkmanager, nm-applet to be precise
[21:49] <mot> yea
[21:50] <KrispyKreme> I have a canon pixma 470 printer, but it doesn't have that driver available. What can I do?
[21:50] <BluesKaj> kaddi, good
[21:51] <AndySpain> BluesKaj: ok, sounds easy. Thank you very much. i'll try right now
[21:52] <BluesKaj> AndySpain, you still have to setup the wifi configuration , but that's quite straightforward
[21:52] <AndySpain> where?
[21:52] <AndySpain> after install i run it from terminal with "wicd"?
[21:53] <BluesKaj> once you download wicd , just look in the k-menu /internet ,
[21:53] <AndySpain> BluesKaj: failure
[21:54] <AndySpain> BluesKaj: aptitude installed 0 packages - I think it was already there then.
[21:54] <AndySpain> In kmenu, applications, internet there are only webbrowsers, amsn, Knetworkmanager but no wicd
[21:55] <wirechief_> AndySpain   check to see status of wicd using  dpkg -l|grep wicd
[21:57] <BluesKaj> AndySpain, nope it should be in the repos multiverse/universe , unless wicd won't run on intrepid
[21:57] <Dragnslcr> !info wicd intrepid
[22:00] <AndySpain> wirechef_ dpkg -l|grep wicd  gives no result
[22:00] <AndySpain> is there no way to make it run on intrepid?
[22:01] <AndySpain> it's an atheros cards
[22:01] <AndySpain> -s
[22:01] <BluesKaj> well srry but ihave to do some errands ..BBL
[22:01] <AndySpain> BluesKaj: Thank you. See you later
[22:01] <wirechief_> AndySpain no result, no wicd
[22:01] <AndySpain> wirechef_ no text at all, a new prompt
[22:03] <BluesKaj> AndySpain, http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[22:04] <kaddi> AndySpain: wicd is apparently not included in the ubuntu repositories, but you can get if from the repositories of wicd.http://wicd.net/moinmoin/Wicd on Ubuntu
[22:04] <kaddi> how do I get the link to be complete? it goes from here > http://wicd.net/moinmoin/Wicd on Ubuntu < til here
[22:06] <AndySpain> BluesKaj and Kaddi: Thanks. am reading
[22:08] <araen> http://www.antithese.fr/chroniques-de-la-tante-micheline-ce-soir-il-pleut/
[22:12] <instructor_> AndorinKato: tried the removal of quiet and splash ?
[22:12] <AndorinKato> instructor_: Not yet, I'll let you know when.
[22:13] <wirechief_> AndySpain here are the depends for wicd:  http://pastebin.com/f51393c58
[22:14] <AndySpain> ok found out. Installing wicd it told me it would remove a BROKEN package knetworkmanager and that  network-manager-kde depends on network-manager (>= 0.6.2) which is not installable
[22:14] <AndySpain> wicd installed now
[22:15] <AndySpain> wirechief won't dependencies be installed automatically?
[22:16] <AndySpain> ok, wicd installed and started. says cabled networkd found, no wireless found
[22:16] <wirechief_> AndySpain if not usually apt-get -f install works  (not sure if supported in your repos though)
[22:17] <AndySpain> I did sudo aptitude install wicd
[22:17] <AndySpain> no errors
[22:17] <kaddi> AndySpain: are you sure that the card is working?
[22:17] <AndySpain> do i need to restart?
[22:17] <AndySpain> kaddi: yes under windows it works
[22:18] <chris_> mporei kapoios na me vohthisei?
[22:18] <wirechief_> usually for the first attempt, if it got a ip for you, or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:18] <kaddi> AndySpain: just wanted to make sure ;)
[22:18] <ign0ramus> AndySpain, if wicd doesn't find any wireless, sometimes restarting X works.  I've had to do that upon first installing on Hardy.  After that, it works seamlessly.
[22:19] <wirechief_> it seems to need to be kickstarted when first used.
[22:20] <ign0ramus> AndySpain, also, the version in the repos is a couple of versions older than what's offered on the sourceforge page, but stability-wise, you're good to go.
[22:20] <wirechief_> another trick is to use dhclient eth0  or eth1
[22:24] <andy_> kaddi: yes under windows it works
[22:24] <andy_> now i closed the knetwork manager - maybe they conflict
[22:24] <andy_> and i got disconnected
[22:25] <andy_> clicked connect in wicd and could enter again, though wicd still says disconnected
[22:25] <kaddi> andy_ I see that, I'm gonna paste you the suggestions that were posted after you left. :)
[22:25] <andy_> now 'dpkg -l|grep wicd' foinds something: 'ii  wicd  1.5.9 wired and wireless network manager'
[22:25] <andy_> kaddi: thank you
[22:26] <kaddi> Andy_ http://nopaste.com/p/ajvAQ7Ehm
[22:26] <andy_> i even tried to manually write ath0 as the wireless interface in preferences as this was empty
[22:27] <kaddi> andy_ what kind of card do you have? Did you already say, I didn't see it
[22:29] <andy_> even for the cabled one it tells me disconnected, but I'm in here...
[22:29] <andy_> I closed wicd and tried the /etc/init.d/networking restart  thing
[22:29] <andy_> to no avail
[22:29] <andy_> I don't know exactly the name, but it's atheros
[22:29] <wirechief_> did you try dhclient eth0
[22:30] <wirechief_> or is it wlan0
[22:30] <wirechief_> do a sudo ifconfig  and see which
[22:30] <andy_> wirechief, not yet. I think on a precviously installed ubuntu (dunno how it worked there, it was a hassle as well it was ath0)
[22:30] <andy_> do the names change?
[22:31] <wirechief_> ok well ifconfig will show whats available for use
[22:31] <andy_> eth0 and lo that's all in ifconfig
[22:31] <wirechief_> ok then its dhclient eth0
[22:32] <andy_> where?
[22:32] <andy_> in terminal?
[22:32] <andy_> i think in ubuntu in those days i had to download some driver from madwifi...
[22:32] <andy_> unfortunately I don't remember anything
[22:33] <andy_> this time I'm coying all to a txt file so I can do it alone in the future
[22:35] <andy_> ok dunno if it helps: lspci gives this card: 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[22:35] <wirechief_> does lsmod show any wireless modules ?
[22:36] <andy_> wirechief_ no, nothing I could identify as wireless
[22:36] <andy_> powernow, bitlbit, kvm, sound, video, pata, ext3 and so stuff, no word wireless or wife
[22:37] <wirechief_> cfg80211               67756  3 iwl3945,iwlcore,mac80211  this is mine
[22:37] <wirechief_> i believe there needs to be a 80211
[22:37] <andy_> ??, gosh. I'll paste you my output
[22:37] <wirechief_> no
[22:38] <wirechief_> use pastebinit
[22:38] <wirechief_>  maybe  lsmod |pastebinit
[22:38] <vlt> Hello. I opened a mail in KMail and chose "Save All Attachments..." from the context menu. I get a msg: "Found no attachments to save". Any idea what's the problem here?
[22:39] <andy_> wirechief_: http://nopaste.com/p/aaLBWCtli
[22:39] <andy_> what's a pastebinit?
[22:40] <andy_> no 802
[22:40] <andy_> and no 80211 there
[22:40] <wirechief_> nope
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> vlt: no attchments in the currently selected message?
[22:41] <wirechief_> andy_ maybe google  ubuntu Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x
[22:41] <andy_> so, lspci shows it and lsmod not?
[22:41] <andy_> ok
[22:42] <vlt> jhutchins_wk: The header section shows "Attachments: img1.jpg img2.jpg ..."
[22:43] <wirechief_> andy_  lots of hits...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=902860
[22:43] <wirechief_> andy_  when you get lost, use google its your friend ;)
[22:43] <ign0ramus> andy_, specifically: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6837541&postcount=52
[22:43] <wirechief_> good luck
[22:44] <wirechief_> ign0ramus: ;)
[22:44] <ign0ramus> wirechief_, google is a great thing... we both immediately found the same article ;)
[22:45] <wirechief_> yeah, its gotten me out of lots of tight spots with compiling
[22:45] <wirechief_> some errors are just not human readable or understandable.
[22:45] <ign0ramus> wirechief_, me too.  it's usually some simple lib or package, but without google, i'd have never have known which one
[22:45] <jhutchins_wk> Atheros is still madwifi, isn't it?
[22:46] <ign0ramus> jhutchins_wk, it seems so (reading the above article)
[22:46] <ign0ramus> jhutchins_wk, but there are ath5k modules, too, not sure if they are madwifi or not
[22:47]  * ign0ramus has an Intel chipset... wireless is the only thing he DOESNT have a problem with ;)
[22:48] <kaddi> hehe
[22:48] <ign0ramus> kaddi, you know what i'm talking about!
[22:48] <kaddi> indeed I do :D
[22:49] <ign0ramus> kaddi, but following the performance guide, we can achieve usability almost comparable to a year ago :(
[22:50] <vlt> Any idea how to save all attachment files from a mail (opened in KMail)?
[22:50] <kaddi> ign0ramus:it can only go up from here. ;) I'm just glad there is a fix at all. ;)
[22:50] <andy_> wirechief_: thanks reading the posts. one included a wget from a madwifi site which didn't exist anymore. now I'm trying to figure out how to enable bakcports here
[22:50] <ign0ramus> kaddi, i'm with you.  some kernel devs have suggested that the intel regressions will be fixed by Karmic's release
[22:53] <ign0ramus> andy_, you can install backports from the repos.  perhaps "linux-backports-modules-jaunty" may be of interest to you...
[22:53] <kaddi> karmic will be kernelversion 2.6.30 ? or 29?
[22:53] <kaddi> ign0ramus: he's using intrepid ;)
[22:54] <ign0ramus> andy_, oh, then search apt-cache or adept or whatever for 'backports'... they're in there :)
[22:54] <ign0ramus> kaddi, 2.6.30 or higher
[22:54] <vbgunz> can someone enlighten me? why when I go to tty 1 - 6 I keep seeing "cannot examine encrypted directory" after I log in? I dont remember ever trying to add encryption manually and I could almost swear when asked in the installer, I said no... whats happening?
[22:56] <ign0ramus> kaddi, alpha2 snapshot and review: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2009/06/first-look-ubuntu-910-alpha-2.ars
[22:57] <kaddi> I didn't know about the ten-second startup goal... looks interesting ^^
[22:57] <andy_> thx ign0ramos
[22:57] <ign0ramus> andy_, np
[22:57] <andy_> well, trying this otmorrow
[22:58] <andy_> gotta go now
[22:58] <ign0ramus> andy_, may the force be with you
[22:58] <andy_> thank youz all for your active help
[22:58] <andy_> I'll let you know if it worked
[22:58] <andy_> good nite!
[22:58] <andy_> thx
[22:58] <kaddi> good night :)
[22:58] <andy_> with you too, Ign0, kaddi and wirechief!
[22:58] <wirechief_> ;)
[22:59] <ign0ramus> kaddi, good to see you. i also have to go... first shift working for kgb.  I'll actually start getting paid to answer questions! :)
[23:00] <wirechief_> lol
[23:00] <instructor_> vbgunz: double check that>
[23:00] <kaddi> lol
[23:00] <kaddi> good night then, I'm gonna leave as well :)
[23:00] <ign0ramus> wirechief_, you should look into it too!  looking stuff up on google can pay off!
[23:00] <ign0ramus> gnite kaddi :)
[23:00] <vbgunz> instructor double check what and how? I do not want encryption *if* I have it
[23:00] <kaddi> ok, I just have to ask: what does kgb stand for?
[23:01] <ign0ramus> kaddi, off-topic, but its just an answering service for people who ask questions via text message.
[23:01] <kaddi> ok, thanks :)
[23:22] <mubu> Hey guys is there anyway I can change an application icon so that when I go to "Applications" and go to a specific app I can see it with a custom icon? Thanks Im using ubuntu 9.04
[23:23] <instructor_> mubu: kemenueditor
[23:23] <instructor_> kmenueditor
[23:24] <mubu> instructor_, thanks
[23:45] <instructor_> vbgunz: do you have a Private directory ?
[23:48] <fabricio_> hi everybody can anyone tell me if kde 4.3 can be usable and stable? i'm using kubuntu 9.04 kde 4.2.2 thanks a lot
[23:49] <instructor_> fabricio_: is 4.2.2 unstable for you?
[23:49] <instructor_> hi jono
[23:49] <jono> hey instructor_ :)
[23:49] <instructor_> how are you?
[23:49] <fabricio_> no.. of course not! but i want to try kde 4.3 :D
[23:49] <instructor_> fabricio_: should be about the same
[23:50] <fabricio_> yes but i think the rc of kde 4.3 is release today right?
[23:51] <instructor_> fabricio_: It's released when they say it's released kubuntu should have it within a day of that. monitor http://kubuntu.org for that
[23:51] <instructor_> Course KDE 4.4 is where you want to be at :-D
[23:52] <fabricio_> thanks a lot, and sorry for my english and from venezuela :D last thing i want to know, do you think kde 4.3 rc can be stable? or at least usable?
[23:53] <instructor_> fabricio_: I'm on it now so for me it's fine. I think it should be alright for you as well. If you do find any problems please report them at http://bugs.kde.org so they can be addressed for the final release
[23:53] <instructor_> fabricio_: your english is fine. Better than my brother's :-D
[23:53] <fabricio_> thanks a lot jajaja thanks instructor your brother might be 4yo? jeje
[23:56] <instructor_> fabricio_: 27 sadly but never quite got that BET isn't a classroom
[23:57] <fabricio_> jajaja incredible!
[23:58] <instructor_> fabricio_: 4.3 is quite a fun release
[23:58] <fabricio_> why? :D
[23:58] <instructor_> It's not nearly the list of improvements of 4.2 over 4.1 but there is a lot of polish and nice things happeneing
[23:59] <instructor_> The system tray and notifications are much nicer and things which just got missed before work now
[23:59] <instructor_> Small things like some plasmoids not having info or tooltips and they pretty much all do now
[23:59] <instructor_> All the ones I tested at least