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mxpxpodgenerally how long does it take for a group creation request to go through?00:11
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Ampelbeinhi there. the lpia-builder molybdenum seems to be hanging. It builds the linux-kernel for 7 hours now and does not show any activity: https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/molybdenum00:25
Ampelbeinerm. s/linux-kernel/gdb00:28
cprovAmpelbein: yes, it seems to be stuck, thanks. Let me ping someone.00:37
wgrantWhy do private builds cause the builder to be shown as deactivated?00:42
cprovwgrant: old decision, and right now everyone seems to agree that this is wrong and ugly :-/00:46
wgrantcprov: Good.00:46
wgrantAs long as people aren't sure it was a good idea!00:47
* cprov nods and leaves the package-copy-backend eat his brain in peace.00:48
wgrantcprov: Haha.00:48
cprovwgrant: oh, I see fair-build-dispatching became fashion again.00:50
wgrantcprov: Yes. I'm glad it was brought up.00:51
cprovCOD ppas will push it to another level.00:51
wgrantCOD PPAs?00:51
cprovI blame fta and his perl-fu00:51
wgrantHaha.00:51
cprovcrack-of-day00:51
cprovthe-day ...00:52
wgrantAh, right.00:52
wgrantIt would be really nice if long-running virtual builds could be suspended, and short-running builds built in the middle. But working out what's fair there is difficult.00:53
wgrantSo I came up with my awful suggestion that's in that bug.00:53
wgrantIt is certainly a problem that needs to be resolved.00:53
cprovwe have to look at the build queue ppa|owners  and try to attend they equally according to the number of builder we have.00:55
mwhudsonUEC will solve everything!!!00:55
wgrantRight, but there is the difficulty that long-running builds may hit the queue during a quiet period, take all of the buildds, but then a couple of hours later the queues fill up and can't be emptied.00:56
wgrantSo just reducing the priority isn't good enough.00:56
wgrantUnless you can pause or abort builds.00:56
wgrantmwhudson: UEC?00:57
cprovwgrant: we have multiple builders, I think one build locked isn't a big problem (also this problem is much harder to solve)00:57
mwhudsonwgrant: ubuntu enterprise cloud00:57
wgrantcprov: But one builder from each arch per PPA would make the daily builds very slow.00:59
wgrantBut allowing access to all builders by one PPA makes everything else very slow.00:59
cprovwgrant: exactly, we have to balance who takes the burden01:02
maxbI wonder if there's any mileage in scoring builds based on previous build-times for that source package01:49
wgrantmaxb: I suggested something similar in bug #39354601:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 393546 in soyuz "Super-low priority option for automated PPA builds" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39354601:57
pooliegood morning wgrant02:06
wgrantHi poolie.02:06
SamBhow do I mark a bug as relating to another bug in some way?03:50
persiaSamB, You can't, directly.  Best option is to leave a comment including the syntax bug "#nnnnnn", which will generate a hyperlink to that bug.  Take care with your punctuation, as it may confuse the parser.03:53
persiaThere's a bug open about it, but debate seems centered on the difficulty of defining the semantics of the relationship implied by a bug link.  Within a comment, it's fairly easy to specify the relatioship, making that a safe link (but impervious to attempts to search for related bugs)03:54
SamBpersia: what bug is open about it?04:04
persiaBug #95419 at least.  There are also some duplicates, and a number of mailing list discussions, so you won't find everything in that bug log.  Most of the central points of the debate are highlighted though.04:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 95419 in malone "Record dependencies between bugs" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9541904:07
thumperyou can say "look at bug 12345 for xyz" and the "bug 12345" bit will be hyperlinked04:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234504:15
thumperalso "lp:project" will be linked to the branch04:15
persiathumper, Is there a documentation page that lists all the things the parser understands?04:16
thumperpersia: not that I know of, that'd be too easy04:17
mwhudsonsure, wait a month or so and read the source!04:17
* mwhudson hides04:18
persiamwhudson, That doesn't really help, for the most part.  I just wanted a URL I could toss at people rather than explaining things.04:18
* mwhudson wasn't trying to be helpful, particularly04:18
* spm is tempted to ask mwhudson to read the source and explain what status==4 on the emailaddress table means....04:18
persiaspm, see above :)04:19
mwhudsonspm: preferred04:19
thumpermwhudson: heh04:19
spmmwhudson: you knew. Cheater. :-P04:19
mwhudsonspm: no, i just know the source well :)04:19
persiaSomeone ought add a comment there or something...04:19
spmactually - the tables are commented. is one of the most noticable things about doing DB updates is seeing all the comment updates on tables scroll by04:20
RAOF_Howdie?  How does one go about requesting a meta-project on Launchpad, such as the bazaar metaproject?05:14
persiaRAOF_, file a question.05:14
RAOF_Against Launchpad?05:15
thumperright05:16
RAOF_Good.  Do is getting a little unwieldy :)05:16
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robinjml: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/7567308:14
robinjml: Could you take a look at this question?08:15
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* mpt gnashes teeth at bug 8090209:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 80902 in malone "Allow bug retargeting from project to distribution, or vice versa" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8090209:19
wgrantmpt: I'd like task reassignment to be killed altogether.09:21
mptwgrant, why? So the subscribers to the mistaken project will get more bugmail? :-)09:21
wgrantmpt: No, no, that bug should be fixed first.09:22
mptWe're getting many bug reports filed under hundredpapercuts that should be filed under ubuntu instead09:22
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maxbreassignment is very useful in the absence of the ability to delete a bugtask10:10
maxbDealing with things erroneously filed on Foo [upstream project] instead of foo (Ubuntu) is also useful10:11
maxbHmm12:19
maxbDespite the existence of LP 361097, searching for "me too" in malone bugs gives no hits12:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 361097 in malone "AJAX me too UI" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36109712:19
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Saviqdanilos: could you please approve https://translations.launchpad.net/elisa/1.0/+imports when you have a minute? we're trying if it's good to keep i18n of external plugins along with core ones in the same project12:22
danilosSaviq: did you get that imported through bzr?12:25
Saviqno12:25
Saviqby hand12:25
Saviqthese are templates for external plugins, not hosted in our branch, but integrating the translation effort seems for us a best way to go12:26
danilosSaviq: sorry, lost connection12:32
Saviqdid you get what I wrote to reply your question?12:32
danilosSaviq: yeah12:33
Saviqko12:33
danilosSaviq: approved the template, it will be imported shortly and translation will be approved and imported automatically later12:34
Saviqok thanks12:34
Saviqdanilos: the import failed... can you tell me why?12:44
danilosSaviq: looking...12:47
SaviqI'm afraid the template was shitty, I didn't check it first :/ my bad12:47
danilosSaviq: indeed, the header looks a bit borked12:48
SaviqI'll upload a new one soon12:48
Saviqit should be approved automatically, right?12:48
danilosSaviq: yeah12:50
Saviqok12:50
danilosSaviq: also note that, considering this is a file with DOS line endings, we have a bug where when you combine \r and \n for line endings (i.e. shouldn't happen with regular files, but can happen if there's some weird content in it), we just silently fail12:52
Saviqdanilos: subsequent one won't be12:52
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Saviqdanilos: how long do you reckon should 'Needs Review' hold up?13:22
Saviqfor the template file?13:22
danilosSaviq: it depends on many different things, but mostly on the current load in the queue; I've manually approved it now so you don't have to wait (it can be up to a few hours sometimes)13:33
Saviqok thanks13:34
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Ngcan we add defects.opensolaris.org to the upstream bug tracker list? it looks to be bugzilla14:41
wgrantNg: You can do it yourself at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers14:48
Ngah14:49
dholbachhola14:53
intellectronicaNg: it will even get added automagically the first time you add a bugwatch on a url from that bugzilla site14:53
dholbachcould it be that staging is broken right now?14:53
savvassame here :)14:54
Ngintellectronica: I dumped the URL in a comment and the email said it was a bugwatch, but it didn't show up in the affecting section at the top, but I'll keep an eye on it :)14:55
intellectronicaNg: that's not the same thing. adding the comment creates a bugwatch, but if you want that watch to manipulate the task's status you need to go and assign in explicitly14:56
Ngintellectronica: that's what I tried to to initially and that bug tracker wasn't listed there14:59
Ngit's not really a problem, I just thought it would be nice for linkage :)14:59
intellectronicaNg: are you sure? if there's a bug watch, there's also a bug tracker link15:00
Ngintellectronica: I'm utterly baffled, but it's not important. It'd be great if I could just say, for any kind of project/distribution link, "here's a URL, you figure it out" ;)15:05
RainCTHi15:15
RainCTWhat was again the workaround for the bug where big .orig.tar.gz files hanged on the last KB when uploading to Ubuntu? Just letting dput run for some more time?15:16
dholbachRainCT: it's what I do15:18
dholbachRainCT: you say workaround... is it a bug?15:18
RainCTdholbach: well, IMHO it's not normal :P15:18
RainCTI think it was some sort of know bug in dput or wherever but it's been months ago since I last had the problem so I don't really remember :/15:19
dholbachI have a funny problem trying to remove ~ubuntu-games-merged from the list of ~locoteams - can somebody help me with that?15:24
dholbachsome registry admin or whoever has the power? :)15:24
dholbachhttps://launchpad.net/~locoteams/+member/ubuntu-games-merged15:25
dholbachin the middle of https://launchpad.net/~locoteams/+members?active_start=50&active_batch=5015:26
dholbachOOPS-1277EB12115:26
ubottuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1277EB12115:26
Ursinhadholbach, let me take a look15:31
dholbachUrsinha: muitas graças!15:32
Ursinhadholbach, :D15:32
Ursinhadholbach, that's weird15:34
dholbachit is15:34
Ursinhait shows but when you click it it goes 40415:34
dholbachUrsinha: I swear I had nothing to do with it!15:34
Ursinhahahahaha15:35
dholbach:-)15:35
philnhi15:41
philnSaviq: did you ask about mailing lists for translator teams/groups?15:41
dholbachUrsinha: any idea what could have happened there or how to fix it?15:44
dholbachUrsinha: .is_valid through the API unfortunately did not help to filter it ou15:46
dholbachout15:46
Ursinhadholbach, probably the same that makes it possible to make it to the members list15:49
* Ursinha guesses15:49
philncan translator teams have mailing lists?16:11
dholbachUrsinha: what can I do to get this removed? :)16:12
dholbachUrsinha: file a ticket?16:12
Ursinhadholbach, I asked lp people what could that be16:12
Ursinhabut filing a bug is a great idea indeed16:12
dholbachbug or answers?16:13
Ursinhadholbach, it seems a bug - showing in the list but not being present or accessible16:14
Ursinhadholbach, but an answer should work as well, the person that would take care of that would find out the problem and convert that to a bug, if it applies16:15
dholbachhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/39391416:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 393914 in launchpad-registry "~team membership of ~X-merged can not be deactivated" [Undecided,New]16:15
dholbachUrsinha: ^ and... muitas graças! :-)16:16
Ursinhadholbach, de nada :)16:18
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kanika_vatsHello,whenever I try to do a push to a branch in launchpad,I get the following error:Permission denied (publickey).18:34
kanika_vatsbzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)18:34
kanika_vats .I have tried to reinstall my ssh keys many times and uploading the corresponding public key  to launchpad...also i have done bzr launchpad-login (my user_ID).....but each and every time I get the same error.Can anyone please point me where I am going wrong.18:34
beunokanika_vats, what's your username?18:35
kanika_vatskanika-krikan18:35
kanika_vatsI am known by the name 'kanika vats' in launchpad the above one is my user-id18:36
andrea-bskanika_vats, do you have your private key in your .ssh/id_rsa?18:40
kanika_vatsyes18:40
kanika_vatsandrea-bs, i have my private key there...18:41
beunokanika_vats, what version of bzr are you using?18:42
beunoI suspect it's trying to log in using your local username, which isn't the same as the one on LP18:42
beunoalso, double check that you have the correct username in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf18:43
kanika_vatsI am using Intrepid18:43
beunoah, so pretty old18:43
kanika_vatsooh of bzr18:43
kanika_vatssry...18:43
beunothen, try adding to ~/.ssh/config, something like:18:43
beunoost bazaar.launchpad.net18:43
beunoer18:43
beunoHost bazaar.launchpad.net18:43
beuno    User kanika-krikan18:44
kanika_vatsohk....18:44
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kanika_vatsbeuno, I am having correct username in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf..also i cant find a config file in my .ssh folder....it only contains..the private key,public key and a file named known_hosts18:48
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beunokanika_vats, create that file18:49
kanika_vatsohk... ;>18:49
kanika_vatsbeuno, have done it...now what?18:52
kanika_vatsbeuno, I tried to do a push still getting the same error...18:53
beunokanika_vats, what version of bzr do you have?18:54
Sam-I-Amis the package acceptance queue on launchpad backed up?18:54
Sam-I-Amsent something a while ago and havent heard anything18:54
kanika_vatsbeuno, it is bzr 1.6.1-118:57
beunokanika_vats, please upgrade to the latest version: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/ppa18:59
beunoit may likely have fixed a bug in authentication18:59
beunootherwise, it's a problem with your SSH key18:59
_gpg_just a small question, it looks like launchpad's source  will be available in less then 21 hours ! is it just a rhumor ?19:07
beuno_gpg_, rumor. Where did it come from?19:08
_gpg_beuno, http://www.ubuntulinux.fr/index.php?19:08
_gpg_beuno, check "Opensource in" string19:09
beuno_gpg_, 21 *days*19:09
_gpg_beuno, hhhh i'm really tired ...19:09
beunoit will most probably be released this month, yes19:10
_gpg_beuno,  thank you for the info19:10
jml_gpg_, subscribe to https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing for the latest info19:10
_gpg_jml, thank you19:10
jmlalso see this recent email to launchpad-users: https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/msg05078.html19:10
beunokfogel, that may interest you ^19:10
_gpg_thanks to all19:10
beunojml, it's so nice to have you around during the day  :)19:11
_gpg_just a last question, is there any beta-test session ?19:11
beuno_gpg_, beta test session?19:11
jmlbeuno, :)19:11
_gpg_beuno, something like19:11
_gpg_beuno, if it's not private / too late19:12
beuno_gpg_, I have no idea what your talking about19:12
beunoto view the source before release?19:12
_gpg_beuno, As far as i know, one reason of why launchpad wasn't open source is that some features aren't yet implemented / some API arent yet unified ... well it's simply still in developement stages19:14
_gpg_beuno, Correct me if i'm wrong19:15
_gpg_beuno, i was reading https://help.launchpad.net/GetInvolved/BetaTesting19:16
beuno_gpg_, no, it hasn't been released because we need to review all the files in the tree, slap copyright headers on them and iron out quirks in the new bzr format, which is what it's going to be released in19:17
beunobeta testing something else19:17
beunoit's a beta team where you see changes on a daily basis19:17
beunoyou can apply to the beta team, anyone can19:17
_gpg_beuno, thank you for the clarifications19:17
beunoI'll even approve you right now if you do  ;)19:17
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kfogelbeuno: nice to know people are waiting with bated breath!19:37
beunokfogel, a countdown no less!19:37
kfogelbeuno: Well, I hope they're counting using a very large-granularity time unit, since we're only saying a two-month range!19:38
beunokfogel, maybe you could email them?  :)19:39
kfogelbeuno: OH19:40
kfogelbeuno: I didn't go all the way back in the backscroll19:40
kfogelI see the problem now.19:41
kfogelbeuno: thanks.  yes, I will .  (yikes)19:41
beunokfogel, ;)19:41
kfogelbeuno: mailed (via their contact form)19:43
beunokfogel, cool, thanks. It's been great to have you on the team  :)19:44
kfogelbeuno: It's a pleasure working with you, sir.  But, your phrasing worries me -- it is in the past tense :-).  ?19:44
beunoheh19:44
beuno"it's been great up to now"19:44
kfogelOh, so you mean it will start being miserable tomorrow, eh?  Thanks a lot.19:45
* kfogel is determined to misinterpret19:45
beunowell, I'm cautious!  ;)19:45
kfogelHAH19:45
kfogelgood answer :-)19:45
* beuno scores19:46
kanikabeuno, I am afraid I am still getting the same error after upgradation :Permission denied (publickey)19:50
kanikabzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions19:50
kanikaHi,can anyone please help me figure out this problem...whenever I do a bzr push to a branch in launchpad i get this error:20:02
kanikabzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)20:02
kanikaPermission denied (publickey)20:03
kanikaI have reinstalled my ssh keys many times...have uploaded the corresponding public key with launchpad...and also rechecked it20:04
sorenkanika: What's your launchpad username?20:08
kanikasoren, kanika-krikan20:09
zsquarepluscas launchpad does not yet offer a place to store a website for project documentation, is there a recommended 3rd party location?20:12
sorenkanika: Does "sftp kanika-krikan@bazaar.launchpad.net" work?20:27
Sam-I-Amyou guys know if the ubuntu keyserver is having issues?20:29
kanikasoren, yes it does20:30
sorenkanika: It connects and doesn't ask for a password?20:31
kanikasoren, yes20:32
sorenkanika: Ok. So what exactly do you have in your .ssh/config? Can you pastebin it, please?20:32
kanikayea sure20:32
kanikaHost bazaar.launchpad.net20:33
kanikaUser kanika-krikan20:33
kanikasoren, thats it...20:33
sorenkanika: So what about "sftp bazaar.launchpad.net"? Does that just log you in?20:34
kanikasoren, yea...it simply logs me in20:36
sorenkanika: Er... What exactly are you doing that is not working?20:37
kanikaok..20:37
soren"ok.."?20:37
kanikasoren, hehe...i am telling you....20:37
kanikai am trying to do a bzr push20:38
beunokanika, what does "bzr push -Dhpss" say?20:38
sorenkanika: What does "bzr info" say?20:38
sorenI'm trying to work out he exact URL it's trying to push to.20:38
kanikabeuno, it says:20:40
kanikabzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions20:40
kanikaHPSS calls: 1 (0 vfs) SmartSSHClientMedium(connected=False, username='kanika-krikan', host='bazaar.launchpad.net', port=None)20:40
kanikasoren, bzr info says:20:40
kanikaCheckout (format: pack-0.92)20:40
kanikaLocation:20:40
kanika       checkout root: .20:40
kanika  checkout of branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Esysters-dev/systers/orm/20:40
* soren needs lunch20:41
beunokanika, I have no idea what could be going on then20:43
kanikabeuno, I have also talked to bzr people ..regarding this...but even they could not figure out the problem20:44
beunokanika, and you don't have port 22 blocked?20:44
cody-somervillebeuno, With the new series graph, does it do anything neat like show where the different series branch off of another?20:44
beunocody-somerville, no, because we don't have that information20:44
beunothe graph isn't based on bazaar branches at all20:44
beunojust series and milestones20:45
beunoand today, there's no way to tell LP when a series comes from another series20:45
cody-somervillebeuno, So all graphs will look the same except for the text and how many branches there are?20:45
kanikabeuno, no...i dont think so it is blocked....20:45
beunocody-somerville, not sure what you mean by "the same", but series will be horizontal lines stacked on top of eachother, with milestones and releases on them20:46
kanikabeuno, so shall i file a bug in launchpad then?You know in my previous version whenever i used to do sudo bzr push -Dhpss I use to get a trackback and in the end message that bzr has encountered an internal error report the bug to launchpad....20:49
beunokanika, it's a problem on your end20:50
kanikabeuno, hmm....20:50
beunokanika, if you use sudo, you won't use your ssh key!20:50
beuno!!20:51
beunoplease tell me you haven't been using sudo all this time...20:51
kanikabeuno, I have been for now...hehe...but even when i dont use that i get an error20:52
kanikabzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(file:///usr/local/mailman/orm/.bzr/branch/lock): Permission denied: "/usr/local/mailman/orm/.bzr/branch/lock/fmld4p28ji.tmp": [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/orm/.bzr/branch/lock/fmld4p28ji.tmp'20:53
kanika[18928] 2009-07-01 01:22:01.327 INFO: HPSS calls: 4 (0 vfs) SmartSSHClientMedium(connected=False, username='kanika-krikan', host='bazaar.launchpad.net', port=None)20:53
kanikaHPSS calls: 4 (0 vfs) SmartSSHClientMedium(connected=False, username='kanika-krikan', host='bazaar.launchpad.net', port=None)20:53
beunoOMG20:53
beunokanika, yes, that's because you've been using sudo to commit/push/pull20:53
beunoso your user doesn't have permissions on the actual branch20:54
beunokanika, while I go and stab myself in the eye, next time, make sure you tell people the *exact* command you're running20:55
kanikabeuno, yea..sry..20:56
kanikabeuno, thanks for your time......sry I am a newbie over here ....next time will make it sure that such things do not happen..21:02
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Ampelbeinhi. need some help with python-launchpadlib again: why does buglist = launchpad.distributions['ubuntu'].getSourcePackage(name='nzb').searchTasks(bug_reporter="amoog", order_by="-datecreated") result in "http error 400: Bad Request"?22:04
Ampelbeinon staging that is.22:04
cyberixaeProduct icons on Launchpad front page still are brown boxes22:15
cyberixaeAnd I'm still not sure, if a bug has been filed22:16
beunocyberixae, the fix will likely be rolled out tomorrow22:17
beunoI landed it today22:17
beunoit will be fixed at least on edge22:17
beunomay take a little bit longer to land on launchpad.net22:17
cyberixaeok22:18
cyberixaethanks22:18
Ampelbeinnevermind. bug_reporter has to be the api-represantation, not the actual name.22:22
wgrantAmpelbein: You can catch the HTTPError and check the 'content' attribute to get the error message.22:23
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zsquareplusci get timeout errors on staging like every 7th time it should load a page23:10
beunozsquareplusc, yes, we're aware of the performance issues on staging23:11
zsquareplusc:-)23:11
beunoit's a mis-behaving dependency we're trying to figure out23:11
beunozsquareplusc, will be wonky for a few days while we nail it23:11
zsquarepluscand the bzr icon, left of a branch, is rendered over "lp:.."23:13
beunozsquareplusc, could you give me a link to it?23:15
zsquarepluschttps://staging.launchpad.net/aafigure/stable  "code for this series" section. i'm using FF 3.x (jaunty)23:16
zsquarepluscand when editing a release, "answers" is grayed out. but all other "tabs" are not23:19
zsquarepluscthere is no direct link in launchpad from a release to a tag in a series?23:33
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