[00:11] generally how long does it take for a group creation request to go through? === Hellow_ is now known as Hellow [00:25] hi there. the lpia-builder molybdenum seems to be hanging. It builds the linux-kernel for 7 hours now and does not show any activity: https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/molybdenum [00:28] erm. s/linux-kernel/gdb [00:37] Ampelbein: yes, it seems to be stuck, thanks. Let me ping someone. [00:42] Why do private builds cause the builder to be shown as deactivated? [00:46] wgrant: old decision, and right now everyone seems to agree that this is wrong and ugly :-/ [00:46] cprov: Good. [00:47] As long as people aren't sure it was a good idea! [00:48] * cprov nods and leaves the package-copy-backend eat his brain in peace. [00:48] cprov: Haha. [00:50] wgrant: oh, I see fair-build-dispatching became fashion again. [00:51] cprov: Yes. I'm glad it was brought up. [00:51] COD ppas will push it to another level. [00:51] COD PPAs? [00:51] I blame fta and his perl-fu [00:51] Haha. [00:51] crack-of-day [00:52] the-day ... [00:52] Ah, right. [00:53] It would be really nice if long-running virtual builds could be suspended, and short-running builds built in the middle. But working out what's fair there is difficult. [00:53] So I came up with my awful suggestion that's in that bug. [00:53] It is certainly a problem that needs to be resolved. [00:55] we have to look at the build queue ppa|owners and try to attend they equally according to the number of builder we have. [00:55] UEC will solve everything!!! [00:56] Right, but there is the difficulty that long-running builds may hit the queue during a quiet period, take all of the buildds, but then a couple of hours later the queues fill up and can't be emptied. [00:56] So just reducing the priority isn't good enough. [00:56] Unless you can pause or abort builds. [00:57] mwhudson: UEC? [00:57] wgrant: we have multiple builders, I think one build locked isn't a big problem (also this problem is much harder to solve) [00:57] wgrant: ubuntu enterprise cloud [00:59] cprov: But one builder from each arch per PPA would make the daily builds very slow. [00:59] But allowing access to all builders by one PPA makes everything else very slow. [01:02] wgrant: exactly, we have to balance who takes the burden [01:49] I wonder if there's any mileage in scoring builds based on previous build-times for that source package [01:57] maxb: I suggested something similar in bug #393546 [01:57] Launchpad bug 393546 in soyuz "Super-low priority option for automated PPA builds" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393546 [02:06] good morning wgrant [02:06] Hi poolie. [03:50] how do I mark a bug as relating to another bug in some way? [03:53] SamB, You can't, directly. Best option is to leave a comment including the syntax bug "#nnnnnn", which will generate a hyperlink to that bug. Take care with your punctuation, as it may confuse the parser. [03:54] There's a bug open about it, but debate seems centered on the difficulty of defining the semantics of the relationship implied by a bug link. Within a comment, it's fairly easy to specify the relatioship, making that a safe link (but impervious to attempts to search for related bugs) [04:04] persia: what bug is open about it? [04:07] Bug #95419 at least. There are also some duplicates, and a number of mailing list discussions, so you won't find everything in that bug log. Most of the central points of the debate are highlighted though. [04:07] Launchpad bug 95419 in malone "Record dependencies between bugs" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95419 [04:15] you can say "look at bug 12345 for xyz" and the "bug 12345" bit will be hyperlinked [04:15] Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345 [04:15] also "lp:project" will be linked to the branch [04:16] thumper, Is there a documentation page that lists all the things the parser understands? [04:17] persia: not that I know of, that'd be too easy [04:17] sure, wait a month or so and read the source! [04:18] * mwhudson hides [04:18] mwhudson, That doesn't really help, for the most part. I just wanted a URL I could toss at people rather than explaining things. [04:18] * mwhudson wasn't trying to be helpful, particularly [04:18] * spm is tempted to ask mwhudson to read the source and explain what status==4 on the emailaddress table means.... [04:19] spm, see above :) [04:19] spm: preferred [04:19] mwhudson: heh [04:19] mwhudson: you knew. Cheater. :-P [04:19] spm: no, i just know the source well :) [04:19] Someone ought add a comment there or something... [04:20] actually - the tables are commented. is one of the most noticable things about doing DB updates is seeing all the comment updates on tables scroll by [05:14] Howdie? How does one go about requesting a meta-project on Launchpad, such as the bazaar metaproject? [05:14] RAOF_, file a question. [05:15] Against Launchpad? [05:16] right [05:16] Good. Do is getting a little unwieldy :) === Hellow_ is now known as Hellow [08:14] jml: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/75673 [08:15] jml: Could you take a look at this question? === stub1 is now known as stub [09:19] * mpt gnashes teeth at bug 80902 [09:19] Launchpad bug 80902 in malone "Allow bug retargeting from project to distribution, or vice versa" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80902 [09:21] mpt: I'd like task reassignment to be killed altogether. [09:21] wgrant, why? So the subscribers to the mistaken project will get more bugmail? :-) [09:22] mpt: No, no, that bug should be fixed first. [09:22] We're getting many bug reports filed under hundredpapercuts that should be filed under ubuntu instead === lifeless_ is now known as lifeless [10:10] reassignment is very useful in the absence of the ability to delete a bugtask [10:11] Dealing with things erroneously filed on Foo [upstream project] instead of foo (Ubuntu) is also useful [12:19] Hmm [12:19] Despite the existence of LP 361097, searching for "me too" in malone bugs gives no hits [12:19] Launchpad bug 361097 in malone "AJAX me too UI" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/361097 === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:22] danilos: could you please approve https://translations.launchpad.net/elisa/1.0/+imports when you have a minute? we're trying if it's good to keep i18n of external plugins along with core ones in the same project [12:25] Saviq: did you get that imported through bzr? [12:25] no [12:25] by hand [12:26] these are templates for external plugins, not hosted in our branch, but integrating the translation effort seems for us a best way to go [12:32] Saviq: sorry, lost connection [12:32] did you get what I wrote to reply your question? [12:33] Saviq: yeah [12:33] ko [12:34] Saviq: approved the template, it will be imported shortly and translation will be approved and imported automatically later [12:34] ok thanks [12:44] danilos: the import failed... can you tell me why? [12:47] Saviq: looking... [12:47] I'm afraid the template was shitty, I didn't check it first :/ my bad [12:48] Saviq: indeed, the header looks a bit borked [12:48] I'll upload a new one soon [12:48] it should be approved automatically, right? [12:50] Saviq: yeah [12:50] ok [12:52] Saviq: also note that, considering this is a file with DOS line endings, we have a bug where when you combine \r and \n for line endings (i.e. shouldn't happen with regular files, but can happen if there's some weird content in it), we just silently fail [12:52] danilos: subsequent one won't be === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:22] danilos: how long do you reckon should 'Needs Review' hold up? [13:22] for the template file? [13:33] Saviq: it depends on many different things, but mostly on the current load in the queue; I've manually approved it now so you don't have to wait (it can be up to a few hours sometimes) [13:34] ok thanks === soeb_ is now known as soeb [14:41] can we add defects.opensolaris.org to the upstream bug tracker list? it looks to be bugzilla [14:48] Ng: You can do it yourself at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers [14:49] ah [14:53] hola [14:53] Ng: it will even get added automagically the first time you add a bugwatch on a url from that bugzilla site [14:53] could it be that staging is broken right now? [14:54] same here :) [14:55] intellectronica: I dumped the URL in a comment and the email said it was a bugwatch, but it didn't show up in the affecting section at the top, but I'll keep an eye on it :) [14:56] Ng: that's not the same thing. adding the comment creates a bugwatch, but if you want that watch to manipulate the task's status you need to go and assign in explicitly [14:59] intellectronica: that's what I tried to to initially and that bug tracker wasn't listed there [14:59] it's not really a problem, I just thought it would be nice for linkage :) [15:00] Ng: are you sure? if there's a bug watch, there's also a bug tracker link [15:05] intellectronica: I'm utterly baffled, but it's not important. It'd be great if I could just say, for any kind of project/distribution link, "here's a URL, you figure it out" ;) [15:15] Hi [15:16] What was again the workaround for the bug where big .orig.tar.gz files hanged on the last KB when uploading to Ubuntu? Just letting dput run for some more time? [15:18] RainCT: it's what I do [15:18] RainCT: you say workaround... is it a bug? [15:18] dholbach: well, IMHO it's not normal :P [15:19] I think it was some sort of know bug in dput or wherever but it's been months ago since I last had the problem so I don't really remember :/ [15:24] I have a funny problem trying to remove ~ubuntu-games-merged from the list of ~locoteams - can somebody help me with that? [15:24] some registry admin or whoever has the power? :) [15:25] https://launchpad.net/~locoteams/+member/ubuntu-games-merged [15:26] in the middle of https://launchpad.net/~locoteams/+members?active_start=50&active_batch=50 [15:26] OOPS-1277EB121 [15:26] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1277EB121 [15:31] dholbach, let me take a look [15:32] Ursinha: muitas graças! [15:32] dholbach, :D [15:34] dholbach, that's weird [15:34] it is [15:34] it shows but when you click it it goes 404 [15:34] Ursinha: I swear I had nothing to do with it! [15:35] hahahaha [15:35] :-) [15:41] hi [15:41] Saviq: did you ask about mailing lists for translator teams/groups? [15:44] Ursinha: any idea what could have happened there or how to fix it? [15:46] Ursinha: .is_valid through the API unfortunately did not help to filter it ou [15:46] out [15:49] dholbach, probably the same that makes it possible to make it to the members list [15:49] * Ursinha guesses [16:11] can translator teams have mailing lists? [16:12] Ursinha: what can I do to get this removed? :) [16:12] Ursinha: file a ticket? [16:12] dholbach, I asked lp people what could that be [16:12] but filing a bug is a great idea indeed [16:13] bug or answers? [16:14] dholbach, it seems a bug - showing in the list but not being present or accessible [16:15] dholbach, but an answer should work as well, the person that would take care of that would find out the problem and convert that to a bug, if it applies [16:15] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/393914 [16:15] Ubuntu bug 393914 in launchpad-registry "~team membership of ~X-merged can not be deactivated" [Undecided,New] [16:16] Ursinha: ^ and... muitas graças! :-) [16:18] dholbach, de nada :) === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === dpm is now known as dpm-afk === verterok is now known as verterok|lunch [18:34] Hello,whenever I try to do a push to a branch in launchpad,I get the following error:Permission denied (publickey). [18:34] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required) [18:34] .I have tried to reinstall my ssh keys many times and uploading the corresponding public key to launchpad...also i have done bzr launchpad-login (my user_ID).....but each and every time I get the same error.Can anyone please point me where I am going wrong. [18:35] kanika_vats, what's your username? [18:35] kanika-krikan [18:36] I am known by the name 'kanika vats' in launchpad the above one is my user-id [18:40] kanika_vats, do you have your private key in your .ssh/id_rsa? [18:40] yes [18:41] andrea-bs, i have my private key there... [18:42] kanika_vats, what version of bzr are you using? [18:42] I suspect it's trying to log in using your local username, which isn't the same as the one on LP [18:43] also, double check that you have the correct username in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf [18:43] I am using Intrepid [18:43] ah, so pretty old [18:43] ooh of bzr [18:43] sry... [18:43] then, try adding to ~/.ssh/config, something like: [18:43] ost bazaar.launchpad.net [18:43] er [18:43] Host bazaar.launchpad.net [18:44] User kanika-krikan [18:44] ohk.... === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [18:48] beuno, I am having correct username in ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf..also i cant find a config file in my .ssh folder....it only contains..the private key,public key and a file named known_hosts === soeb_ is now known as soeb [18:49] kanika_vats, create that file [18:49] ohk... ;> [18:52] beuno, have done it...now what? [18:53] beuno, I tried to do a push still getting the same error... [18:54] kanika_vats, what version of bzr do you have? [18:54] is the package acceptance queue on launchpad backed up? [18:54] sent something a while ago and havent heard anything [18:57] beuno, it is bzr 1.6.1-1 [18:59] kanika_vats, please upgrade to the latest version: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/ppa [18:59] it may likely have fixed a bug in authentication [18:59] otherwise, it's a problem with your SSH key [19:07] <_gpg_> just a small question, it looks like launchpad's source will be available in less then 21 hours ! is it just a rhumor ? [19:08] _gpg_, rumor. Where did it come from? [19:08] <_gpg_> beuno, http://www.ubuntulinux.fr/index.php? [19:09] <_gpg_> beuno, check "Opensource in" string [19:09] _gpg_, 21 *days* [19:09] <_gpg_> beuno, hhhh i'm really tired ... [19:10] it will most probably be released this month, yes [19:10] <_gpg_> beuno, thank you for the info [19:10] _gpg_, subscribe to https://dev.launchpad.net/OpenSourcing for the latest info [19:10] <_gpg_> jml, thank you [19:10] also see this recent email to launchpad-users: https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/msg05078.html [19:10] kfogel, that may interest you ^ [19:10] <_gpg_> thanks to all [19:11] jml, it's so nice to have you around during the day :) [19:11] <_gpg_> just a last question, is there any beta-test session ? [19:11] _gpg_, beta test session? [19:11] beuno, :) [19:11] <_gpg_> beuno, something like [19:12] <_gpg_> beuno, if it's not private / too late [19:12] _gpg_, I have no idea what your talking about [19:12] to view the source before release? [19:14] <_gpg_> beuno, As far as i know, one reason of why launchpad wasn't open source is that some features aren't yet implemented / some API arent yet unified ... well it's simply still in developement stages [19:15] <_gpg_> beuno, Correct me if i'm wrong [19:16] <_gpg_> beuno, i was reading https://help.launchpad.net/GetInvolved/BetaTesting [19:17] _gpg_, no, it hasn't been released because we need to review all the files in the tree, slap copyright headers on them and iron out quirks in the new bzr format, which is what it's going to be released in [19:17] beta testing something else [19:17] it's a beta team where you see changes on a daily basis [19:17] you can apply to the beta team, anyone can [19:17] <_gpg_> beuno, thank you for the clarifications [19:17] I'll even approve you right now if you do ;) === verterok|lunch is now known as verterok [19:37] beuno: nice to know people are waiting with bated breath! [19:37] kfogel, a countdown no less! [19:38] beuno: Well, I hope they're counting using a very large-granularity time unit, since we're only saying a two-month range! [19:39] kfogel, maybe you could email them? :) [19:40] beuno: OH [19:40] beuno: I didn't go all the way back in the backscroll [19:41] I see the problem now. [19:41] beuno: thanks. yes, I will . (yikes) [19:41] kfogel, ;) [19:43] beuno: mailed (via their contact form) [19:44] kfogel, cool, thanks. It's been great to have you on the team :) [19:44] beuno: It's a pleasure working with you, sir. But, your phrasing worries me -- it is in the past tense :-). ? [19:44] heh [19:44] "it's been great up to now" [19:45] Oh, so you mean it will start being miserable tomorrow, eh? Thanks a lot. [19:45] * kfogel is determined to misinterpret [19:45] well, I'm cautious! ;) [19:45] HAH [19:45] good answer :-) [19:46] * beuno scores [19:50] beuno, I am afraid I am still getting the same error after upgradation :Permission denied (publickey) [19:50] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions [20:02] Hi,can anyone please help me figure out this problem...whenever I do a bzr push to a branch in launchpad i get this error: [20:02] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required) [20:03] Permission denied (publickey) [20:04] I have reinstalled my ssh keys many times...have uploaded the corresponding public key with launchpad...and also rechecked it [20:08] kanika: What's your launchpad username? [20:09] soren, kanika-krikan [20:12] as launchpad does not yet offer a place to store a website for project documentation, is there a recommended 3rd party location? [20:27] kanika: Does "sftp kanika-krikan@bazaar.launchpad.net" work? [20:29] you guys know if the ubuntu keyserver is having issues? [20:30] soren, yes it does [20:31] kanika: It connects and doesn't ask for a password? [20:32] soren, yes [20:32] kanika: Ok. So what exactly do you have in your .ssh/config? Can you pastebin it, please? [20:32] yea sure [20:33] Host bazaar.launchpad.net [20:33] User kanika-krikan [20:33] soren, thats it... [20:34] kanika: So what about "sftp bazaar.launchpad.net"? Does that just log you in? [20:36] soren, yea...it simply logs me in [20:37] kanika: Er... What exactly are you doing that is not working? [20:37] ok.. [20:37] "ok.."? [20:37] soren, hehe...i am telling you.... [20:38] i am trying to do a bzr push [20:38] kanika, what does "bzr push -Dhpss" say? [20:38] kanika: What does "bzr info" say? [20:38] I'm trying to work out he exact URL it's trying to push to. [20:40] beuno, it says: [20:40] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions [20:40] HPSS calls: 1 (0 vfs) SmartSSHClientMedium(connected=False, username='kanika-krikan', host='bazaar.launchpad.net', port=None) [20:40] soren, bzr info says: [20:40] Checkout (format: pack-0.92) [20:40] Location: [20:40] checkout root: . [20:40] checkout of branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Esysters-dev/systers/orm/ [20:41] * soren needs lunch [20:43] kanika, I have no idea what could be going on then [20:44] beuno, I have also talked to bzr people ..regarding this...but even they could not figure out the problem [20:44] kanika, and you don't have port 22 blocked? [20:44] beuno, With the new series graph, does it do anything neat like show where the different series branch off of another? [20:44] cody-somerville, no, because we don't have that information [20:44] the graph isn't based on bazaar branches at all [20:45] just series and milestones [20:45] and today, there's no way to tell LP when a series comes from another series [20:45] beuno, So all graphs will look the same except for the text and how many branches there are? [20:45] beuno, no...i dont think so it is blocked.... [20:46] cody-somerville, not sure what you mean by "the same", but series will be horizontal lines stacked on top of eachother, with milestones and releases on them [20:49] beuno, so shall i file a bug in launchpad then?You know in my previous version whenever i used to do sudo bzr push -Dhpss I use to get a trackback and in the end message that bzr has encountered an internal error report the bug to launchpad.... [20:50] kanika, it's a problem on your end [20:50] beuno, hmm.... [20:50] kanika, if you use sudo, you won't use your ssh key! [20:51] !! [20:51] please tell me you haven't been using sudo all this time... [20:52] beuno, I have been for now...hehe...but even when i dont use that i get an error [20:53] bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(file:///usr/local/mailman/orm/.bzr/branch/lock): Permission denied: "/usr/local/mailman/orm/.bzr/branch/lock/fmld4p28ji.tmp": [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/orm/.bzr/branch/lock/fmld4p28ji.tmp' [20:53] [18928] 2009-07-01 01:22:01.327 INFO: HPSS calls: 4 (0 vfs) SmartSSHClientMedium(connected=False, username='kanika-krikan', host='bazaar.launchpad.net', port=None) [20:53] HPSS calls: 4 (0 vfs) SmartSSHClientMedium(connected=False, username='kanika-krikan', host='bazaar.launchpad.net', port=None) [20:53] OMG [20:53] kanika, yes, that's because you've been using sudo to commit/push/pull [20:54] so your user doesn't have permissions on the actual branch [20:55] kanika, while I go and stab myself in the eye, next time, make sure you tell people the *exact* command you're running [20:56] beuno, yea..sry.. [21:02] beuno, thanks for your time......sry I am a newbie over here ....next time will make it sure that such things do not happen.. === knielsen_ is now known as knielsen [22:04] hi. need some help with python-launchpadlib again: why does buglist = launchpad.distributions['ubuntu'].getSourcePackage(name='nzb').searchTasks(bug_reporter="amoog", order_by="-datecreated") result in "http error 400: Bad Request"? [22:04] on staging that is. [22:15] Product icons on Launchpad front page still are brown boxes [22:16] And I'm still not sure, if a bug has been filed [22:17] cyberixae, the fix will likely be rolled out tomorrow [22:17] I landed it today [22:17] it will be fixed at least on edge [22:17] may take a little bit longer to land on launchpad.net [22:18] ok [22:18] thanks [22:22] nevermind. bug_reporter has to be the api-represantation, not the actual name. [22:23] Ampelbein: You can catch the HTTPError and check the 'content' attribute to get the error message. === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [23:10] i get timeout errors on staging like every 7th time it should load a page [23:11] zsquareplusc, yes, we're aware of the performance issues on staging [23:11] :-) [23:11] it's a mis-behaving dependency we're trying to figure out [23:11] zsquareplusc, will be wonky for a few days while we nail it [23:13] and the bzr icon, left of a branch, is rendered over "lp:.." [23:15] zsquareplusc, could you give me a link to it? [23:16] https://staging.launchpad.net/aafigure/stable "code for this series" section. i'm using FF 3.x (jaunty) [23:19] and when editing a release, "answers" is grayed out. but all other "tabs" are not [23:33] there is no direct link in launchpad from a release to a tag in a series? === mordred_ is now known as mtaylor === jordi_ is now known as jordi