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BUGabundowho was doing an whois on me ?00:25
hggdhwho?00:48
BUGabundono idea00:51
BUGabundosome one did in some channel00:52
BUGabundowhile I kept logging and crashing00:52
BUGabundodarn pa00:52
bcurtiswxyou can see when someone does a whois on you?01:00
BUGabundobcurtiswx: no... no logs, cause it crashed01:06
BUGabundo:(01:06
bcurtiswxoh, lol01:07
bcurtiswxok01:07
Piciwhoises are server side, they do not query your client.01:09
BUGabundoPici: now server... some one asked "whois BUGabundo"01:10
BUGabundoand I'm trying to figure where that happened01:10
BUGabundoeheh01:10
hggdhwhat me to do it again?01:11
hggdhdone01:12
bcurtiswxme too :-D01:14
BUGabundodo what?01:16
bcurtiswxwhois'd you01:17
BUGabundoLOLOL01:17
BUGabundoyou guys didn't understand my Q01:17
BUGabundonvm01:17
BUGabundoI guess ill never know now01:17
bcurtiswxwell then ask a better question :P01:17
BUGabundoneed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/194416 set as won't fix. thanks01:33
ubot4Launchpad bug 194416 in kdepim "[hardy] kmail shortcut for search bar is missing from Settings menu" [Wishlist,New]01:33
AmpelbeinBUGabundo: done01:35
BUGabundothanks Ampelbein01:35
* BUGabundo goes back to bug mail01:35
* BUGabundo $ sleep in 3,2,1, errrr. No Device Found01:40
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dholbachgood morning07:20
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BUGabundoguud day10:15
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lim123oh my god, ubuntu 9.04 upgrade broke my working desktop.  Where are QA teams?13:28
lim123svk seems really broken13:28
lim123afair when upgrading 8.04 -> 8.10 svk was also epically broken13:31
* lim123 whacks everyone with a clue bat13:32
* Hobbsee smashes lim123 into the middle ofnext milenium, in return.13:48
Hobbseedamn those people who don't check that svk works when they dist upgrade.  Do they just only test *some* packages or something?  Why can't they check everything!13:51
ograwhats svk ?13:54
seb128apt-cache show svk13:56
seb128distributed svn13:56
lim123Hobbsee: there is a lot of bugs about this SVK problem. And even solutions / patches14:01
lim123ogra: svk is svn + local cache.  Overall very nice (but have some quirks sometimes)14:01
ograheh, svn14:02
* lim123 ponders ogra's comment14:05
ograwasnt that comment enough ?14:05
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stiValhello people! can anyone confirm this bug and my rating, that it is security related? or if I'm wrong and the reloading of a service via logrotate should in fact start a stopped service? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/39379214:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 393792 in lighttpd "lighttpd reload executes restart (bad on logrotate!)" [Undecided,New]14:29
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lim123ogra: not really, SVN is good tool, and popular, you disagree? git is for complex uses :)15:04
ograbzr is for compley uses and user friendly :)15:05
ogra*complex15:05
lim123stiVal: I would say it indeed is a security bug, and a big one15:05
lim123lol bazar15:05
lim123although name bazar would in fact reflect on quality of some of the software <_<15:06
hggdhmeaning software would be better?15:27
stiVallim123: We'll see how they respond - i guess it would be interesting to see which services have the same behaviour (where reload does the same as restart) ... I don't believe lighty is the only service15:38
stiValit's in fact a packaging issue ... are there any rules for init scripts of services?15:39
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lim123Hobbsee: in fact, why not?16:50
lim123professional developers use unit testing16:50
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limcore[tmp]we could in fact test all packages16:50
limcore[tmp]upstream (or distro managers) could write some standarized unit tests for each program / package,  and it would all be executed when needed16:51
limcore[tmp]hggdh: I was refering to the discussion that perhaps baazar "business" model is not working out for real software, and some "catedral" is needed; And I would be happy to see more Catedral (professionall qa etc) in ubuntu16:53
limcore[tmp]Hobbsee: some things can not be easly unit tested automatically, on thoes manual/hand testers would focus16:55
hggdhlimcore[tmp], most of the work done on Ubuntu is voluntary. AFAICR, Canonical banks some of them, but we still depend heavily on volunteers. Do I understand you are volunteering?16:55
limcore[tmp]I do \o/16:56
* limcore[tmp] puts a +9 ring of qa16:56
limcore[tmp]ok, so...17:00
limcore[tmp]how to help then17:01
limcore[tmp]example, ubuntu fails to fully support my LCD (modelines problems)  and  xvidtune seems broken.   I reported, and what?  How to get in pair with developer experienced in X to debug this bug and then fix it17:02
limcore[tmp]we could test all17:03
limcore[tmp]erm wrong paste.         https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11-xserver-utils/+bug/39350117:04
ubot4Launchpad bug 393501 in x11-xserver-utils "xvidtune: can not set any frequency - XF86VidModeModeUnsuitable ; also: more debug patch" [Undecided,New]17:04
hggdhlimcore[tmp], start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing17:05
showardlimcore and hggdh: Should he open a new bug: "xvidtune should have better debugging information" and attach his patch to that report as well (mark it as a patch)? many developers are volunteers too, and they would be more able to try a small patch like that than work through debugging a more difficult problem. Since limcore has a bug with a specific hardware configuration it may take a while to find a tester or developer to help confirm an17:12
limcore[tmp]also, perhaps the bug is not that xvidtune is broken (for me), but that xvidtune is outdated and should not be used nowdays?  but whom to ask that17:13
hggdhshoward, it is a good option17:15
nhasianhello peoples18:05
limcore[tmp]hi nhasian18:05
nhasianhey did the hugday start already?18:06
pedro_nhasian: yeah, it's the whole day18:10
nhasiandang you guys already triaged all the bugs.  i guess there werent that many to begin with18:10
nhasiani'm glad my bug got confirmed and sent upstream18:11
pedro_nhasian: there's still a few to be triaged on empathy ;-)18:11
pedro_i'm having a look into those now18:11
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wilClayhello - i am new to bug triage and am looking at bug 393955 about flash vid not playing with extra visual effects on.19:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 393955 in ubuntu "Extra Visual Effects cause Flash video to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39395519:14
wilClayI notice his report suggests yelp as the package but yelp is a help utility - I assume this is erroneous and probably something to do with the use of apport maybe?19:16
wilClayOr is that part of the bug report user generated?  Thanks for any insights given to a noob...19:17
pedro_wilClay: no, it seems he just used the Help->Report a problem menu item on yelp19:18
wilClaygotcha - thanks.  I'll ask for more specifics on reproducing the prob.  i can play vids with extra on in firefox 3 FWIW19:19
pedro_wilClay: we get a few reports like that, people seems to think that the yelp program is for asking for help rather than searching/reading for it on the docs19:19
pedro_wilClay: that'd be good, thanks for helping ;-)19:19
wilClaypedro_:  No prob - glad to be here!19:20
mahfouzI had a problem today with 2.6.30-10-generic in jaunty20:02
mahfouztalked to the people in #kernel but they only started a distro flame war20:02
mahfouzstarting up with 2.6.30-10-generic, I get the splash screen all the way to the end but then an unresponsive black screen20:03
mahfouzit worked yesterday, but today it didn't anymore, even though there were no updates afaik20:03
Picimahfouz: 2.6.30-10 isnt in Jaunty though.20:04
mahfouzthat's the thing, I think it was temporarily in the repos20:05
mahfouzbut now removed20:05
mahfouzI downloaded it thru apt though20:05
mahfouznow I'm using the mainline ppa and that works atm20:05
pedro_mahfouz: you might want to try asking on #ubuntu-kernel which is where the ubuntu kernel folks hang around20:07
mahfouzoh20:07
mahfouzok20:07
fdrhello... is there please anybody willing to teach me how to report a bug upstream? Thanks! This is the one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/19535921:09
ubot4Launchpad bug 195359 in epiphany-browser "Italian translation is incomplete" [Undecided,Incomplete]21:09
stiValhello again ...! Could someone please look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/393792 for a second - i really don't think this should be a "low" priority. this is pretty serious for production environments imo ;)21:26
ubot4Launchpad bug 393792 in lighttpd "lighttpd reload executes restart (bad on logrotate!)" [Low,Confirmed]21:26
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BUGabundoguys! enjoy this last week! new job starts on Monday! I should be less in here hehe22:27
nhasianwow i went to view the bugs for telepathy-butterfly in launchpad and they are all set to confirmed now.22:46

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