[00:25] <BUGabundo> who was doing an whois on me ?
[00:48] <hggdh> who?
[00:51] <BUGabundo> no idea
[00:52] <BUGabundo> some one did in some channel
[00:52] <BUGabundo> while I kept logging and crashing
[00:52] <BUGabundo> darn pa
[01:00] <bcurtiswx> you can see when someone does a whois on you?
[01:06] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: no... no logs, cause it crashed
[01:06] <BUGabundo> :(
[01:07] <bcurtiswx> oh, lol
[01:07] <bcurtiswx> ok
[01:09] <Pici> whoises are server side, they do not query your client.
[01:10] <BUGabundo> Pici: now server... some one asked "whois BUGabundo"
[01:10] <BUGabundo> and I'm trying to figure where that happened
[01:10] <BUGabundo> eheh
[01:11] <hggdh> what me to do it again?
[01:12] <hggdh> done
[01:14] <bcurtiswx> me too :-D
[01:16] <BUGabundo> do what?
[01:17] <bcurtiswx> whois'd you
[01:17] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[01:17] <BUGabundo> you guys didn't understand my Q
[01:17] <BUGabundo> nvm
[01:17] <BUGabundo> I guess ill never know now
[01:17] <bcurtiswx> well then ask a better question :P
[01:33] <BUGabundo> need https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/194416 set as won't fix. thanks
[01:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 194416 in kdepim "[hardy] kmail shortcut for search bar is missing from Settings menu" [Wishlist,New]
[01:35] <Ampelbein> BUGabundo: done
[01:35] <BUGabundo> thanks Ampelbein
[01:35]  * BUGabundo goes back to bug mail
[01:40]  * BUGabundo $ sleep in 3,2,1, errrr. No Device Found
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[10:15] <BUGabundo> guud day
[13:28] <lim123> oh my god, ubuntu 9.04 upgrade broke my working desktop.  Where are QA teams?
[13:28] <lim123> svk seems really broken
[13:31] <lim123> afair when upgrading 8.04 -> 8.10 svk was also epically broken
[13:32]  * lim123 whacks everyone with a clue bat
[13:48]  * Hobbsee smashes lim123 into the middle ofnext milenium, in return.
[13:51] <Hobbsee> damn those people who don't check that svk works when they dist upgrade.  Do they just only test *some* packages or something?  Why can't they check everything!
[13:54] <ogra> whats svk ?
[13:56] <seb128> apt-cache show svk
[13:56] <seb128> distributed svn
[14:01] <lim123> Hobbsee: there is a lot of bugs about this SVK problem. And even solutions / patches
[14:01] <lim123> ogra: svk is svn + local cache.  Overall very nice (but have some quirks sometimes)
[14:02] <ogra> heh, svn
[14:05]  * lim123 ponders ogra's comment
[14:05] <ogra> wasnt that comment enough ?
[14:29] <stiVal> hello people! can anyone confirm this bug and my rating, that it is security related? or if I'm wrong and the reloading of a service via logrotate should in fact start a stopped service? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/393792
[14:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 393792 in lighttpd "lighttpd reload executes restart (bad on logrotate!)" [Undecided,New]
[15:04] <lim123> ogra: not really, SVN is good tool, and popular, you disagree? git is for complex uses :)
[15:05] <ogra> bzr is for compley uses and user friendly :)
[15:05] <ogra> *complex
[15:05] <lim123> stiVal: I would say it indeed is a security bug, and a big one
[15:05] <lim123> lol bazar
[15:06] <lim123> although name bazar would in fact reflect on quality of some of the software <_<
[15:27] <hggdh> meaning software would be better?
[15:38] <stiVal> lim123: We'll see how they respond - i guess it would be interesting to see which services have the same behaviour (where reload does the same as restart) ... I don't believe lighty is the only service
[15:39] <stiVal> it's in fact a packaging issue ... are there any rules for init scripts of services?
[16:50] <lim123> Hobbsee: in fact, why not?
[16:50] <lim123> professional developers use unit testing
[16:50] <limcore[tmp]> we could in fact test all packages
[16:51] <limcore[tmp]> upstream (or distro managers) could write some standarized unit tests for each program / package,  and it would all be executed when needed
[16:53] <limcore[tmp]> hggdh: I was refering to the discussion that perhaps baazar "business" model is not working out for real software, and some "catedral" is needed; And I would be happy to see more Catedral (professionall qa etc) in ubuntu
[16:55] <limcore[tmp]> Hobbsee: some things can not be easly unit tested automatically, on thoes manual/hand testers would focus
[16:55] <hggdh> limcore[tmp], most of the work done on Ubuntu is voluntary. AFAICR, Canonical banks some of them, but we still depend heavily on volunteers. Do I understand you are volunteering?
[16:56] <limcore[tmp]> I do \o/
[16:56]  * limcore[tmp] puts a +9 ring of qa
[17:00] <limcore[tmp]> ok, so...
[17:01] <limcore[tmp]> how to help then
[17:02] <limcore[tmp]> example, ubuntu fails to fully support my LCD (modelines problems)  and  xvidtune seems broken.   I reported, and what?  How to get in pair with developer experienced in X to debug this bug and then fix it
[17:03] <limcore[tmp]> we could test all
[17:04] <limcore[tmp]> erm wrong paste.         https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11-xserver-utils/+bug/393501
[17:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 393501 in x11-xserver-utils "xvidtune: can not set any frequency - XF86VidModeModeUnsuitable ; also: more debug patch" [Undecided,New]
[17:05] <hggdh> limcore[tmp], start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[17:12] <showard> limcore and hggdh: Should he open a new bug: "xvidtune should have better debugging information" and attach his patch to that report as well (mark it as a patch)? many developers are volunteers too, and they would be more able to try a small patch like that than work through debugging a more difficult problem. Since limcore has a bug with a specific hardware configuration it may take a while to find a tester or developer to help confirm an
[17:13] <limcore[tmp]> also, perhaps the bug is not that xvidtune is broken (for me), but that xvidtune is outdated and should not be used nowdays?  but whom to ask that
[17:15] <hggdh> showard, it is a good option
[18:05] <nhasian> hello peoples
[18:05] <limcore[tmp]> hi nhasian
[18:06] <nhasian> hey did the hugday start already?
[18:10] <pedro_> nhasian: yeah, it's the whole day
[18:10] <nhasian> dang you guys already triaged all the bugs.  i guess there werent that many to begin with
[18:11] <nhasian> i'm glad my bug got confirmed and sent upstream
[18:11] <pedro_> nhasian: there's still a few to be triaged on empathy ;-)
[18:11] <pedro_> i'm having a look into those now
[19:14] <wilClay> hello - i am new to bug triage and am looking at bug 393955 about flash vid not playing with extra visual effects on.
[19:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 393955 in ubuntu "Extra Visual Effects cause Flash video to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393955
[19:16] <wilClay> I notice his report suggests yelp as the package but yelp is a help utility - I assume this is erroneous and probably something to do with the use of apport maybe?
[19:17] <wilClay> Or is that part of the bug report user generated?  Thanks for any insights given to a noob...
[19:18] <pedro_> wilClay: no, it seems he just used the Help->Report a problem menu item on yelp
[19:19] <wilClay> gotcha - thanks.  I'll ask for more specifics on reproducing the prob.  i can play vids with extra on in firefox 3 FWIW
[19:19] <pedro_> wilClay: we get a few reports like that, people seems to think that the yelp program is for asking for help rather than searching/reading for it on the docs
[19:19] <pedro_> wilClay: that'd be good, thanks for helping ;-)
[19:20] <wilClay> pedro_:  No prob - glad to be here!
[20:02] <mahfouz> I had a problem today with 2.6.30-10-generic in jaunty
[20:02] <mahfouz> talked to the people in #kernel but they only started a distro flame war
[20:03] <mahfouz> starting up with 2.6.30-10-generic, I get the splash screen all the way to the end but then an unresponsive black screen
[20:03] <mahfouz> it worked yesterday, but today it didn't anymore, even though there were no updates afaik
[20:04] <Pici> mahfouz: 2.6.30-10 isnt in Jaunty though.
[20:05] <mahfouz> that's the thing, I think it was temporarily in the repos
[20:05] <mahfouz> but now removed
[20:05] <mahfouz> I downloaded it thru apt though
[20:05] <mahfouz> now I'm using the mainline ppa and that works atm
[20:07] <pedro_> mahfouz: you might want to try asking on #ubuntu-kernel which is where the ubuntu kernel folks hang around
[20:07] <mahfouz> oh
[20:07] <mahfouz> ok
[21:09] <fdr> hello... is there please anybody willing to teach me how to report a bug upstream? Thanks! This is the one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/195359
[21:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 195359 in epiphany-browser "Italian translation is incomplete" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[21:26] <stiVal> hello again ...! Could someone please look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/393792 for a second - i really don't think this should be a "low" priority. this is pretty serious for production environments imo ;)
[21:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 393792 in lighttpd "lighttpd reload executes restart (bad on logrotate!)" [Low,Confirmed]
[22:27] <BUGabundo> guys! enjoy this last week! new job starts on Monday! I should be less in here hehe
[22:46] <nhasian> wow i went to view the bugs for telepathy-butterfly in launchpad and they are all set to confirmed now.