[00:45] <BUGabundo> asac: hi, have u read http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/06/intels-linux-connman-examining-the-pros-and-conns.ars ?
[00:54] <asac> interesting
[00:55] <BUGabundo> im liking the matrix too
[00:55] <BUGabundo> eheh
[00:56] <BUGabundo> asac: wanna know another funny thing?
[00:56] <BUGabundo> on 3G I can only see properties, when disconected
[00:56] <BUGabundo> after connecting the menu entrie disapers
[01:00] <BUGabundo> asac: did you take into consideration to keep wireless swich on NM separate for 3G?
[01:01] <asac> didnt think about it yet
[01:07] <BUGabundo> shall I file a bug to remind you ?
[01:08] <asac> remind ;)
[01:40]  * BUGabundo $ sleep in 3,2,1, errrr. No Device Found
[01:46] <TomJaeger> Hi, does anyone want to discuss bug #217908 ?
[01:49] <TomJaeger> Now might be a good time to get the fix in.
[04:16] <ripps> fta: ping
[09:10] <fta> ripps, pong
[09:12] <ripps> fta: sorry that i'm just getting this to, but your last commit to ppa-scripts didn't fix my issue with mpd still using libmms in hardy
[09:13] <ripps> I've been kinda busy the last few days, I didn't bother to try it until mpd made an upstream update earlier yesterday
[09:13] <fta> hm..
[09:14] <ripps> I think it still has the lintian and mms leftover from when there was an error, how do I force it to revert to the way it's suppose to be.
[09:16] <ripps> I would manually meddle with the configs, but I'm afraid that will screw the update mechinism in the scripts
[09:24] <fta> do you have a new commit in the main ppa branch since?
[09:27] <asac> hi
[09:27] <ripps> fta: no, I but I can always futz with the packaging branch to force an update
[09:28] <fta> yes, please try that
[09:35] <ripps> fta: http://pastebin.com/f445bc5e7
[09:37] <ripps> dangit... it looks like it worked this time.... why didn't it work with the first build?
[09:48] <fta> :)
[10:15] <BUGabundo> guud day
[10:34] <fta> damned udev/policykit
[10:34] <fta> Not Authorized: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.CheckAuthorization() on /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority at name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code
[10:37] <BUGabundo> YEP
[10:37] <BUGabundo> known eheh
[10:37] <BUGabundo> I have a lot of those for device mounting too
[10:49] <fta> asac, did you have a chance to look at my libjpeg?
[10:57] <ripps> fta: in the mean time, use pmount /dev/device label to mount it.
[11:08] <asac> fta: did you ask me recently and i missed that?
[11:08]  * asac feels overwhelmed
[11:08] <fta> iirc, you never commented on it
[11:09] <asac> fta: last i know was that it didnt work, right?
[11:10] <fta> yep, but i'm not sure why.. different abi or mistake on my side
[11:10] <fta> or both
[11:10] <fta> or something else
[11:11] <asac> fta: so what do we want to answer on the xul app packaging thing?
[11:11] <fta> ?
[11:14] <stefanlsd> asac: have you had a chance to revu gears yet?  :)
[11:15] <fta> [12:08] * asac feels overwhelmed
[11:16] <stefanlsd> oh right. no stress :)  if you are generally ok with it, i can get another motu to advocate, and i'll self adv.
[11:23] <BUGabundo> yeah fta that one also made me think!
[11:27] <asac> answered the xul packaging stuff
[11:27] <asac> stefanlsd: i would suggest that you try to get a first sign off ... fta said that getting a second sign off is harder ;)
[11:27] <asac> (so i would proopose that i give the second sign off)
[11:27] <asac> or is my sign off enough?
[11:28]  * asac unsure about revu policy
[11:28] <asac> stefanlsd: can you build gears against xul 1.9.1?
[11:29] <stefanlsd> asac: i can self advocate, but rainct said he also would...  so i'll get him to have a look, and if you're happy i'll upload...
[11:29] <stefanlsd> asac: let me check...
[11:29] <asac> stefanlsd: please depend on xulrunner-dev (if you depend on 1.9-dev)
[11:29] <asac> build depend
[11:42] <stefanlsd> asac: im alreadly build-depending on xulrunner-dev. Should that xulrunner-1.9.1-dev?
[11:45] <asac> stefanlsd: no thats ok then
[11:45] <asac> just want to ensure that we dont add xulrunner-1.9-dev anymore
[11:46] <stefanlsd> asac: oh ok. cool. yeah. its using xulrunner-dev as is.
[12:34] <asac> fta: did you try the jpeg on amd64 only? or also on 32-bit?
[12:49] <stefanlsd> is the MPL,GPL,LGPL essentially MPL or GPL or LGPL, or  MPL and GPL and LGPL? mmm
[12:52] <stefanlsd> ok. its an or
[12:56] <asac> yeah
[12:56] <asac> or
[13:46] <asac> stefanlsd: advocated
[13:47] <stefanlsd> asac: thanks. i've made some minor changes - line wrapping, dep5 revision bump to 59 (small changes) mpl or gpl etc. So will upload new version shortly. RainCT also just testing. but awesome :)
[13:48] <asac> stefanlsd: you can also fix minor issues after archive upload ;)
[13:49] <stefanlsd> asac: yay! cool.  finally. weird how some stuff can take months...
[13:56] <mbana> hello all
[13:56] <mbana> i have a strong feeling gmail is using bitmapped fonts.  how can i verify this
[14:58] <bac> hi asac
[14:59] <asac> hi bac
[14:59] <asac> what can i do for you?
[14:59] <bac> i noticed on this page https://edge.launchpad.net/firefox/+download the file appears to not actually be what it claims
[15:00] <bac> the file is actually an error message, which is really confusing when you attempt to dl it
[15:00] <bac> i was wondering if you might just delete it.
[15:00] <asac> yes
[15:00] <asac> bac: deleted. thanks
[15:00] <bac> that's great.  i spent quite a bit of time wondering why the librarian was tring to redirect to that ftp site...
[15:35] <TomJaeger> asac, can we discuss bug #217908 ?
[16:11] <asac> TomJaeger: still a problem?
[16:12] <TomJaeger> it still needs a xulrunner patch
[16:15] <TomJaeger> the cairo part is now upstream, though it only conditionally enables EXTEND_PAD via XRender on X servers >= 1.7
[16:15] <TomJaeger> but we have a cairo patch in that already does so unconditionally
[16:15] <asac> TomJaeger: are you talking about xulrunner 1.9.1 or 1.9? (karmic or jaunty?)
[16:16] <TomJaeger> karmic
[16:17] <asac> TomJaeger: same problem in firefox-3.5?
[16:17] <TomJaeger> yes
[16:18] <TomJaeger> So what I'd suggest is applying the patch attached to the bug now (so that the binary drivers can get some testing) and then switch over to the patch I attached on the mozilla bugtracker as soon as we get xserver-1.7 and an updated cairo
[16:18] <asac> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22591744/debdiffs.tar.gz ?
[16:18] <asac> those?
[16:18] <TomJaeger> no
[16:19] <TomJaeger> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22544758/xulrunner-1.9.1.debdiff
[16:20] <asac> TomJaeger: for cairo >= 1.5.8 we use system cairo
[16:20] <asac> oh its thebes
[16:21] <TomJaeger> asac, I know, system cairo makes things a lot easier
[16:24] <asac> TomJaeger: can you fix indentation on upstream patch and request review please?
[16:25] <TomJaeger> how do I request review?
[16:25] <asac> cairo_version() ... is that a runtime function?
[16:25] <asac> TomJaeger: resubmit and let me konw i will show you ;)
[16:26] <TomJaeger> re cairo_version: yes
[16:26] <asac> TomJaeger: basically you go to patch "Details" and then you flip "review" to ? and set the person you ask review from
[16:26] <TomJaeger> okay, thanks
[16:33] <asac> TomJaeger: i would prefer to grab upstream vetted patch
[16:34] <asac> seems that the EXTEND_PAD really makes things slower and i dont want to argue about that ;)
[16:36] <TomJaeger> The patch has no effect unless the user has enabled full page zoom > 100%
[16:36] <TomJaeger> and even in the case of zoom > 100%, the effect is negligible if done right
[16:37] <TomJaeger> If vlad accepts the patch, though, we should definitely go with the patch attached to the ubuntu bugtracker until we update the server to 1.7
[16:40] <TomJaeger> okay, I've requested review
[16:40] <asac> TomJaeger: well. thats the point. if vlad says he doesnt want it, its a problem to put it in anyway
[16:40] <asac> at least i have to talk to him first ;)
[16:41] <TomJaeger> I already know that he's fine with what the patch does
[16:41] <asac> TomJaeger: if users have a (:XXX) thing in their bugzilla name it means you can request review just using :vlad
[16:41] <asac> no need to bother about email address
[16:41] <TomJaeger> actually, that's what I did :)
[16:42] <asac> oh ok
[16:42] <asac> didnt know it expands that
[16:47] <asac> fta: 3.5 is out
[16:47] <asac> fta: will you upload to karmic? so i get a tarball for -security?
[16:59] <Nafallo> how do I tell firefox to ignore if the cert is being reused easiest?
[17:00] <asac> Nafallo: i cant parse that ;)
[17:00] <asac> ignore what?
[17:00] <asac> what does "cert reusing mean"?
[17:01] <vadi2> is ff 3.5 final? it is being offered at http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/upgrade.html as the default option.
[17:02] <Nafallo> asac: so... I have this page that makes firefox believe the cert is invalid.
[17:02] <Nafallo> (Error code: sec_error_reused_issuer_and_serial)
[17:03] <asac> Nafallo: goto your account settings
[17:03] <asac> go under security and click manage certificates.
[17:03] <asac> find the cert in question under the website tab & delete it.. then accept the new one if prompted
[17:04] <Nafallo> asac: I didn't get prompted :-/
[17:05] <asac> removed the wrong one maybe?
[17:05] <Nafallo> asac: no
[17:06] <Nafallo> asac: even restarted my browser.
[17:07] <Nafallo> no google. I did not want to search for :q
[17:14] <fta2> asac, i will but i'm worried about the -daily... once we make it default, the backports will follow..
[17:24] <aquarius> What with Fx 3.5 being released and all, I thought I'd try it out, but I'm not sure if it's packaged anywhere for jaunty? The nightly builds PPA is a bit too scary, so...what's the best way of me upgrading to 3.5 on jaunty at the moment?
[17:24] <aquarius> I can of course just install direct from mozilla.org and then it's parallel-installed, but it'd be nice to not do that if possible.
[17:26] <jcastro> asac: it might be a good idea to blog or something before the entire internet comes into this channel asking the same thing
[17:27] <jcastro> or tell me what to blog and I'll do it. :D
[17:34] <asac> fta: what about karmic update so i get a tarball?
[17:34] <asac> fta: if you want me to do that let me know.
[17:37]  * aquarius grins
[17:37] <aquarius> I had a poke around in case there were already some really obvious instructions that I'd miss...
[17:39] <asac> aquarius: i will blog about it after meeting. in short, if you use jaunty or karmic, install firefox-3.5 and wait
[17:39] <aquarius> asac: excellent, that's really helpful! thanks :)
[17:40] <asac> aquarius: if you run jaunty and want it on first chance enable the ~ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA
[17:40] <asac> thats where the jaunty bits will hit the archive first.
[17:40] <asac> if you are on hardy or intrepid we unfortunately only have the ~ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA
[17:40] <asac> for now
[17:40] <asac> but we are working to make a backport ppa available somewhere
[17:41] <aquarius> I'm on jaunty, so that seems perfectly fine to me. superb.
[17:45] <aquarius> firefox-3.5 package. I had no idea that existed. Total win. Cheers asac and all :)
[17:45] <asac> aquarius: its been in jaunty for quite som time ;)
[17:45] <asac> just will get updated now that its final
[17:45] <asac> and then get regular security updates as usual
[17:46] <asac> aquarius: would you volunteer to enable the ~ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA and test the bits before they get rolled to the masses?
[17:46] <aquarius> I'm happy to enable the PPA, update, and run things for a general "does this work" smoke test
[17:47] <aquarius> but it'll be pretty light testing if I do it
[17:47] <asac> aquarius: normal use is good testing
[17:47] <asac> as long as i know that someone uses it ;)
[17:47]  * aquarius laughs
[17:48] <asac> we only upload updates that would go into -security anyway
[17:48] <asac> so its pretty safe
[17:48] <asac> but if there is a regression and you catch it, you are a hero ;)
[17:48] <aquarius> omg a tab [+] button. I already love 3.5. ;)
[17:49] <asac> lol
[17:49] <aquarius> OK, so if I enable the -security PPA, does that upgrade my firefox-3.5 package or my firefox package?
[17:51] <asac> aquarius: yes
[17:51] <asac> it will
[17:52] <asac> aquarius: firefox-3.5 and xulrunner-1.9.1 will get upgraded
[17:52] <asac> but if there is a 3.0 security release you will also get those updates a day or two earlier
[17:52] <aquarius> hang on, i meant "does it upgrade firefox-3.5" or "does it upgrade firefox". :-)
[17:52] <aquarius> ah, gotcha. coolness
[17:55] <micahg> asac: people seem to keep having flash conflicts if 2 flash players are installed
[17:56] <aquarius> -security PPA enabled, so when a new version of firefox-3.5 arrives I'll get it. Thanks!
[17:56] <micahg> or maybe it's just defaulting to swfdec
[17:57] <vadi2> hm, installed the current firefox 3.5 and subscribed to the ~ubuntu-mozilla-security ppa. hope after final 3.5 gets into the ppa and I upgrade, the thing will stop refusing to start :)
[17:57] <aquarius> woah, it all works. Superb.
[17:58] <aquarius> well, geolocation thinks I'm in Mountain View, but I assume that's because I don't have a GPS :)
[17:58] <vadi2> hm... my android phone somehow figured out where I was just by wireless and without a gps :/
[18:03] <asac> aquarius: yeah. if you stay here, we  can do more interactive testing
[18:03] <asac> otherwise just come here if you have problems with -security bits ;)
[18:03] <aquarius> asac: happy to
[18:04] <aquarius> man, svg filters on arbitrary elements. This is sweet. I can't believe I could have had all this stuff before if I'd known about the firefox-3.5 package. I am so dense :)
[18:04] <asac> lol
[18:04] <asac> i guess i should have blogged about it
[18:04] <asac> will do that in a few muntes
[18:05] <asac> at least i blogged about the dailies ;) http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/158-Ubuntu-Mozilla-Daily-Archive-with-firefox-3.1-and-3.2-for-hardy,-intrepid-and-jaunty.html
[18:07] <aquarius> I knew about the daily builds, but I was too chicken to use them because I thought it'd overwrite my standard firefox package, and I can't afford to have my browser go away :)
[18:17] <aquarius> ooo. http://craigmod.com/journal/font-face/ breaks rather weirdly.
[18:17] <aquarius> all the characters get replaced with those little "you don't have a glyph for this" Unicode boxes with the numbers in.
[18:18] <asac> aquarius: screenshot please
[18:18] <aquarius> just doing on
[18:20] <fta> asac_, asac: seems there's no tag
[18:20] <asac_> fta: no release tag?
[18:20] <aquarius> asac: http://kryogenix.org/random/font-face-broken-ff35.png
[18:22] <fta> asac_, http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/atom-tags
[18:23] <fta> oh, FIREFOX_3_5_RELEASE, so it's the same as RC3
[18:23] <aquarius> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/geolocation/ says you can undo "read my location" permission for a page in Page Info > Permissions > Share Location. I don't have that item in Permissions. Aside from that, I don't seem to have a way of granting that permission to a page anyway; every time the page wants my permission, Fx asks me. there's no "tell them and don't ask again". Slightly confused.
[18:26] <asac_> yes
[18:26] <asac_> aquarius: wait for final build if that still has it lets file a bug
[18:27] <fta> asac_, 3.5 or 3.5.0? the branch already move to 3.5.1pre / 1.9.1.1pre
[18:27] <aquarius> asac_: no worries, I don't want to overwhelm you guys with bugs that aren't right for now :)
[18:27] <fta> moveD
[18:27] <fta> 3.5 i guess, to match upstream
[18:29] <asac_> aquarius: all bugs are ok once you have the latest bits
[18:39] <micahg> so, FF3.5 is officially released?
[18:40] <asac_> yes!!
[18:42] <micahg> so how much longer for support on the 3.0.x branch?
[18:44] <micahg> asac, is the new ubufox ready?
[18:47] <fta> micahg, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-firefox-3.5
[19:06] <asac_> jcastro: http://identi.ca/notice/5908434
[19:06] <asac_> please spread
[19:07] <asac_> Pici: ^^
[19:08]  * aquarius twitters the link
[19:12] <fta> asac_, i'm ready to push 3.5 to karmic with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/207101/ do you see any thing else before i close it?
[19:12] <Pici> asac_: thanks
[19:14] <leftyfb> Any idea why FF 3.5 on ubuntu 8.04 would segfault? I tried both the ubuntu-mozilla-daily and fta repo's and both have RC and both segfault
[19:15] <asac_> fta: official branding ... please not yet
[19:15] <asac_> we will do that when we move that to main
[19:15] <fta> asac_, why? i see no reason not to do it, it's still using the cloned profile
[19:16] <fta> it's just a matter of icons
[19:16] <asac_> fta: because its not the main browser and official branding needs to be signed off
[19:16] <fta> we started to use the official branding at the RCs in 3.0
[19:17] <asac_> yes, because it was the default at that point
[19:17] <leftyfb> I just tried starting with no original Firefox 3.0.11 profile. Still get segfault. Any ideas?
[19:17] <asac_> leftyfb: on hardy?
[19:17] <leftyfb> yes
[19:18] <asac_> leftyfb: move full .mozilla away, then start it with strace -f -eopen firefox 2>&1 | tee /tmp/ffox.log.txt
[19:18] <asac_> assuming you have the daily ppa package installed
[19:18] <asac_> firefox-3.5 actually
[19:18] <asac_> (not firefox)
[19:20] <leftyfb> http://dropbox.leftyfb.com/ffox.log.txt
[19:20] <asac_> fta: please dont forget to open up maxVersion in application.ini
[19:21] <fta> asac_, for the translations?
[19:21] <asac_> leftyfb: uninstall libxul0d and libmozjs0d
[19:22] <asac_> fta: for application.ini and also for translation (good catch)
[19:22] <asac_> fta: application.ini has maxVersion == currentVersion if we dont patch it
[19:22] <leftyfb> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:22] <leftyfb>   google-gadgets libmozjs-dev libmozjs0d libxul-dev libxul0d xulrunner
[19:22] <asac_> we want maxVersion=1.9.1.*
[19:22] <leftyfb> thats ok?
[19:22] <asac_> leftyfb: yes
[19:22] <asac_> if you can live without google-gadgets i guess
[19:22] <leftyfb> yup
[19:23] <leftyfb> forgot i had it installed
[19:23] <asac_> leftyfb: oh
[19:23] <asac_> leftyfb: you only need to remove the -dev packages
[19:23] <asac_> libxul-dev libmozjs-dev
[19:23]  * asac_ makes a note that we should conflict on them
[19:23] <asac_> fta: wanna add those conflicts on xulrunner-1.9.1?
[19:24] <fta> you mean, libxul-dev libmozjs-dev conflicting with xul*-dev, right?
[19:25] <asac_> fta: i mean, adding Conflicts: libxul-dev libmozjs-dev to xulrunner-1.9.1  binary package
[19:25] <asac_> not the -dev
[19:25] <asac_> well the -dev will be implicit
[19:25] <asac_> if xulrunner finds /usr/lib/libmozjs.so it will load that instead the one in pkglibdir
[19:26] <asac_> same for libxul.so most likely
[19:30] <fta> shouldn't it be Build-Conflicts too?
[19:43] <fta> asac_, ^^
[19:46] <leftyfb> asac: thanks. That worked.
[19:47] <leftyfb> any ETA on the final release coming?
[19:47] <leftyfb> this thing flies
[19:47] <leftyfb> even with my 20+ addons :)
[19:50] <asac_> fta: no its a Conflicts
[19:50] <asac_> its not for build, but runtime
[19:50] <asac_> libxul-dev and libmozjs-dev will hurt our xulrunner during runtime
[19:51] <asac_> leftyfb: http://www.telefon.de/datenblaetter/panasonic_kx_tg82xx.pdf
[19:51] <fta> i remember i had issues at build time too with libmozjs-dev but i don't remember with project it was
[19:51] <asac_> oops
[19:51] <asac_> leftyfb: http://identi.ca/notice/5908434
[19:51] <asac_> fta: install libmozjs-dev and it will crash your ffox 3.5 ;)
[19:51] <fta> asac_, about max version, which one?
[19:51] <asac_> at least it will try to use those bits
[19:51] <asac_> fta: 1.9.1.*
[19:51] <fta> in ff?
[19:52] <fta> is that wanted?
[19:52] <asac_> application.ini maxVersion=1.9.1.* means that its supposed to run with all xulrunners 1.9.1.*
[19:52] <asac_> fta: why not?
[19:52] <asac_> we did that for ffox 3.0 too
[19:52] <asac_> [Gecko]
[19:52] <asac_> MinVersion=1.9.0.1
[19:52] <asac_> MaxVersion=1.9.0.*
[20:02] <fta> i remember now
[20:11] <fta> asac_, about the branding, users are expecting it...
[20:12] <asac_> i know. and we are working on it
[20:13] <asac_> the transition is being prepared in ffox35 ppa
[20:13] <asac_> once we have all main stuff we can shift the default browser
[20:13] <asac_> most likely shortly after alpha3
[20:15] <asac_> in case lots of users complain we can of course reconsider, but lets see first if its really worth putting the extra chains on us
[20:48] <fta> all the builders are busy
[21:31] <asac_> fta: uploaded?
[22:34] <BUGabundo> fta: quick steps to compile from source firefox ?
[22:34] <BUGabundo> some one asking on a PT blog
[22:47] <BUGabundo> asac ping. around?
[22:47] <huayra> if I have a translation for Firefox in X language (and we follow the development process) and it has not been accepted by mozilla, but could be uploaded to launchpad or otherwise make it packageable for Ubuntu. Would it be part of Karmic?
[22:48] <huayra> could we at least make it hapen?
[22:48] <huayra> *happen
[22:48] <BUGabundo> ppl at +1 are crying out load for the release of 3.5 as master browser
[22:48] <BUGabundo> asac ^^^
[22:48] <huayra> 3.5 is a better browser.. Been using it since december and it just rocks!
[22:48] <BUGabundo> LOL
[22:48] <BUGabundo> I'm on 3.6
[22:48] <huayra> X translation is for 3.5 ;)
[22:48] <BUGabundo> 3.5 is to stable for me
[22:49] <huayra> I haven't gone 3.6 yet
[22:49] <huayra> but most likely will for translation testing purposes (I'm always on +1 in my personal machine)
[22:50] <fta> BUGabundo, i'm on it, xul already pushed to karmic
[22:51] <BUGabundo> ok
[22:51] <BUGabundo> about the source q?
[22:51] <fta> like any other packages
[22:52] <fta> apt-get source foo; cd foo-* ; dpkg-buildpackage
[22:52] <BUGabundo> talk to me like I'm a nooob
[22:52] <BUGabundo> ok
[22:57] <fta> BUGabundo, there are plenty of good tutorials for that
[22:58] <BUGabundo> I'll point him Google
[22:59] <BUGabundo> lol
[22:59] <fta> BUGabundo, dholbac's videos
[23:11] <asac_> fta: are you waiting for something to upload ffox?
[23:13] <fta> i was, but it's done now
[23:14] <BUGabundo> yay asac_
[23:14] <fta> asac, builders are busy doing private stuff
[23:15] <asac> fta: yeah. just upload with tweaked lower build-depends bound
[23:15] <asac> ah ok
[23:15] <asac> thought you were waiting for xul to finish
[23:15] <asac> thx
[23:16] <fta> unlocked the 3.5 dailies too
[23:16] <asac> hmm. 3.5 isnt in archive yet
[23:16] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5
[23:16] <asac> still at rc3
[23:16] <asac> err 2
[23:16] <asac> ;)
[23:17] <asac> guess you just uploaded
[23:17] <fta> i'm wondering what will happen with those dailies once 3.5 will be default..
[23:17] <asac> fta: in which sense? branding wise the dailies should be same as upstream dailies i guess
[23:18] <asac> and we need two branches unfortunately
[23:18] <asac> or make the .head even smarter
[23:18] <asac> e.g. creating control on the fly
[23:18] <fta> hmm
[23:18] <asac> not sure if i want to end up with packages like doko maintains ;)
[23:18] <asac> they do everything in rules
[23:20] <asac> fta: ffox 3.5 still not closed ;)
[23:21] <BUGabundo> asac still at rc2
[23:21] <asac> i see that ;)
[23:22] <BUGabundo> not rc3
[23:22] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:22] <BUGabundo> AFAIK rc3 is Mac gui fix only
[23:22] <asac> well. i am waiting so i can merge stuff to jaunty branch ;)
[23:23]  * asac takes a break to give fta some time ;)
[23:23] <fta> oops, forgot to push the branch, done
[23:23] <fta> #433