[00:17] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #393656 in postfix (main) "postfix fails on boot with "fatal: could not find any active network interfaces"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393656
[00:31] <luckyone> hello all, I am trying to get sound working on my ubuntu-server install
[00:34] <giovani> luckyone: for what purpose?
[00:35] <luckyone> giovani: I am using it as a NAS, and want to be able to play music off of it
[00:35] <giovani> luckyone: NAS' aren't typically media players
[00:36] <luckyone> my NAS is an MSI Wind, so it has all it needs
[00:36] <giovani> yeah, that's not really the point
[00:36] <giovani> I'm not sure if any of the audio drivers are in the -server kernel
[00:36] <giovani> if it doesn't work out the box, the answer is probably no
[00:40] <giovani> luckyone: run "lsmod | grep snd" for me
[00:45] <luckyone> looks like my user isn't in the audio group.
[00:45] <luckyone> it is the small things...
[00:46] <luckyone> giovani: http://pastie.org/528764
[00:47] <giovani> ok, then sound is loaded
[00:47] <giovani> problem?
[00:47] <jetole> hey guys. Does anyone know a good method to map out all links on all pages on a certain website. Kinda like spider program or something. I am trying to change a large website to friendly urls and want to find a list and then make sure I didn't miss any
[01:04] <giovani> jetole: maybe a wget -nv -r --delete-after?
[01:04] <jetole> thanks
[01:04]  * jetole checks it out
[01:05] <giovani> it's not the cleanest method ...
[01:05] <jetole> I think there is a don't download option
[01:05]  * jetole is looking at wget
[01:06] <jetole> I must have been thinking about something else
[01:06] <jetole> this will likely take eons though
[01:06] <jetole> since wget is downloading all files
[01:06]  * jetole googles 
[01:06] <giovani> that's why I said it was messy
[01:06] <jetole> like I said, large website
[01:06] <giovani> just run it locally on the box?
[01:07] <jetole> don't know about that
[01:07] <jetole> it's a windows 2003 server
[01:07] <giovani> what don't you know?
[01:07] <giovani> haha
[01:07] <jetole> several actually
[01:07] <jetole> I know I know
[01:07] <jetole> I hate windows too
[01:07] <jetole> this is a corporate website and the windows servers were there when I started
[01:07] <jetole> and the tech department knows I hate windows too
[01:09] <jetole> I'm gonna ask #apache too
[01:09] <giovani> jetole: wget -nv --spider -r htt
[01:10] <giovani> http://
[01:10] <giovani> that works
[01:10] <giovani> --spider doesn't download beyond the HTML it has to to find more links
[01:10] <giovani> you can hack up the output with awk to get a clean url list
[01:13] <jetole> you know I have been meaning to learn awk
[01:13] <jetole> have used sed for years
[01:13] <jetole> never got around to awk
[01:14] <giovani> not really related :)
[01:14] <jetole> just thought I would mention it
[01:19] <giovani> wget -nv --spider -r http://www.nytimes.com/ 2>&1 | cut -d" " -f3
[01:19] <giovani> that seems to work alright
[01:22]  * jetole is actually looking at htdig right now
[01:22] <jetole> and swish-e
[01:31] <jetole> htdig seems to work well so far
[01:31] <jetole> still running though
[02:31] <karl86> hi guys, I need to set a cpanel server up to recieve mail for a domain that has its apache traffic to another box. I'm drawing blanks in google can anyone suggest some search terms that might bear fruit?
[02:45] <mattt> karl86: just point the MX record for the domain at the cpanel box?
[02:46] <karl86> hey mattt, think I might be able to do it by using an 'addon' domain and using mail forwarding
[02:46] <karl86> seems incredibly long winded, i'm used to working at command line, but cpanel works in mysterious ways
[02:48] <mattt> karl86: personally, i'd just set up the cpanel domain as normal ...
[02:48] <mattt> karl86: forget the fact that the setup also sets up an apache config, etc.  .... cpanel won't care htat you don't actually use it :)
[02:49] <karl86> that would set up virtual hosts and such in httpd.conf though wouldnt it? I only want to handle mail for this domain
[02:49] <mattt> karl86: it would, but what does it matter?
[02:50] <karl86> fair point
[02:50] <karl86> will give it a go
[02:50] <mattt> karl86: anyway, cpanel may have an option to just set up mail hosting, i know plesk does .... but sorry i'm not familiar enough w/ cpanel
[02:50] <karl86> not a problem at all, thank you for your assistance :)
[02:50] <mattt> good luck :)
[03:03] <agentk> Anybody know where to find prelim squid-3.1 packages?  I need connection-auth=off support.
[03:08] <karl86> mattt: it worked thank you :)
[03:36] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #369727 in openldap (main) "package slapd 2.4.15-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/369727
[03:51] <karl86> can you copy a .so file from one location to /usr/lib? or does it mess things up
[04:11] <mattt> karl86: cool!  and technically, i believe you can ... but then you'll have a misc. file on the filesystem not owned by a pakacage
[04:11] <mattt> *package
[04:12] <karl86> hi matt, it does seem to work. And its only for the benefit of svn so its not a critical thing :)
[04:19] <qiyong> should I disable landscape?
[04:19] <qiyong> !landscape
[04:20] <qiyong> where is it started?
[05:33] <captainkirk> hi all.  how can i configure an external usb drive to automount when connected to be available as a backup storage device to a cron job?
[05:38] <captainkirk_> hi all.  how can i configure an external usb drive to automount when connected to be available as a backup storage device to a cron job?
[05:46] <captainkirk_> hi all.  how can i configure an external usb drive to automount when connected to be available as a backup storage device to a cron job?
[05:52] <cjones> where would synptic install phpbb3?
[05:55] <mattt> cjones: dpkg -L phpbb3
[06:01] <bc> cjones: also check for any gotchas in /usr/share/doc/phpbb3
[07:06] <vi390> any idea how I can get openVZ kernel at jaunty ?
[07:35] <bobg> in hardy, I get "unknown filesystem" when I try to mount a  reiserfs partition. what do I have to do to enable reiserfs?
[09:07] <Skaag> I've installed the "Virtual Machine Host" while installing Jaunty, now I see a virt-sh shell for creating virtual machines, etc. Where can I find more information about this?
[09:19] <blizzkid> lo all. some urgent help needed here... I set up a server using drbd and ocfs2. Everything worked fine, but now when I do mount.ocfs2 /dev/drbd0 /data0 I get mount.ocfs2: Error when attempting to run /sbin/ocfs2_hb_ctl: "Operation not permitted" and Unable to access cluster service while starting heartbeat
[09:43] <alex_muntada> Skaag: try https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/virtualization.html
[09:43] <Skaag> thanks looking at that
[11:56] <RoyK> hi all. anyone here that have used nfs4 acls?
[13:43] <Kira> Does anybody know of a step-by-step guide to setting up a Postfix+Dovecot mail server on Jaunty?
[13:44] <sommer> Kira: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html
[13:45] <sommer> Kira: it's not that complete, but really sudo apt-get install dovecot-postfix does all the setup
[14:10] <Kira> Hmm, I guess that's not all that I need to know.
[14:11] <Kira> what about mailbox setup, etc?
[14:12] <Kira> and stuff like hooking up with a webmail application (e.g. Horde)
[14:25] <heath|work> Kira, http://howtoforge.com/virtual-users-domains-postfix-courier-mysql-squirrelmail-ubuntu9.04
[14:28] <heath|work> Would anyone know why I keep getting prompted to [sudo] right when I log in?
[14:28] <heath|work> Ubuntu JeOS 9.04
[14:31] <_ruben> heath|work: probably something in your login scripts .. grep sudo ~/.*
[14:35] <heath|work> _ruben, that returns nothing, I'm not sure what is going on... it's strange
[14:41] <_ruben> heath|work: could be hiding in /etc/ somewhere as well .. or a script calls it which is being called by a login script
[14:42] <_ruben> what i'd do is open up 2 sessions .. while the 1st is at the sudo prompt .. run `ps auxfww` in the second .. then from the tree output you might be able to traceback the origin of the sudo call
[14:46] <heath|work> _ruben, I will give it a whirl thanks
[14:51] <Ng> kirkland: as part of your kvm-84 backport stuff, how would you feel about including kvm-pxe? :)
[14:53] <mjeanson-> mathiaz: just to let you know that we'll likely be a few minutes late
[14:53] <mathiaz> mjeanson-: ok :)
[15:14] <Ng> is it normal for kvm to chomp all the CPU it can find after you start it? I'm seeing a lot of chomping and very little console action
[15:14] <Ng> and killing it when it's in that state seems to leave libvirt with the impression that something is still using the associated disks
[15:14] <Ng> (this is with the kvm-84 backport onto hardy, but I was seeing the same thing before I applied that)
[15:41] <joe-mac> is anybody actually using the tomcat5.5 package from apt on 8.04 LTS?
[15:56] <andenw> joe-mac: yes, im using it on my server. why?
[15:57] <joe-mac> andenw: can't get it to work at all and i've set it up plenty of times throguh source
[15:58] <joe-mac> i'm getting these errors: org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start SEVERE: Catalina.start:  LifecycleException:  No UserDatabase component found under key UserDatabase, cept i have the user db set up
[15:59] <mathiaz> https://www.redhat.com/archives/freeipa-devel/2009-June/msg00298.html
[15:59] <mathiaz> mjeanson: ^^
[16:01] <andenw> joe-mac: look at my /etc/tomcat-5.5/server.xml at http://paste.ubuntu.com/207009/ , do you have a similar userdatabase setup?
[16:17] <joe-mac> yea i have the user db set up in the server.xml and the file is where it should be
[16:18] <joe-mac> weirdest thing, catalina.out is empty
[16:18] <joe-mac> and it's mod 777
[16:37] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #392759 in apache2 (main) "apache2 DoS attack using slowloris" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392759
[16:39] <joe-mac> yea i was going to suggest at least included that module to limit connections from a certain ip to help with that...
[17:44] <ivoks> meeting's over?
[17:51] <sommer> yeppers :)
[18:01] <MTecknology> Any idea why something run as root will generate mail but when it's run from the root cron it won't?
[18:03] <MTecknology> 0 0 * * 1 logwatch --detail 10 --range '-1 week' --mailto admin@server.com
[18:12] <joe-mac> MTecknology: is MAILTO set to an empty string?
[18:13] <MTecknology> joe-mac: hm?
[18:13] <MTecknology> joe-mac: that's the cron that I run ^
[18:13] <MTecknology> except with server.com replaced
[18:14] <MTecknology> If I run that as root the mail sends, run it form cron and it doesn't
[18:33] <joe-mac> MTecknology: that's why i asked ab out the mailto var, says who to mail shit to from cron
[18:37] <MTecknology> joe-mac: where do I set that?
[18:39] <joe-mac> in the crontab, at least on vixie cron
[18:39] <joe-mac> right above the line for cron do MAILTO="yourusername"
[18:39] <joe-mac> OH shit i misunderstood you,t hought you weren't getting cron output
[18:40] <joe-mac> in that case, probably an environment thing, not sure how the logwatch --mailto functionality works
[18:40] <MTecknology> I'll try that
[18:40] <MTecknology> if it works I'll be happy
[18:40] <MTecknology> it's something funky w/ cron :S
[18:41] <MTecknology> .... it worked
[18:41] <MTecknology> thanks
[18:49] <JorgeJorgesson>  I seem to be having a lot of problems with mysqld starting up in Ubuntu 9.04.  I start it up with sudo mysqld &, but when I try to start the cli, I get a cannot connect error.
[18:51] <JorgeJorgesson> I have tried connecting with both localhost and 127.0.0.1
[18:51] <bitprophet> not on 9.04 myself but any reason you're not using the init script?
[18:52] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: /etc/init.d/mysql restart ; the  do mysql -uroot -p
[18:53] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: fail at server start
[18:54] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: pastebin the command and error\
[18:54] <JorgeJorgesson> Sorry, worked fine with sudo
[18:55] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: why is this required everytime?  Does the server not start automatically?
[18:55] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: you tried starting it from mysqld when it should have been running
[18:56] <JorgeJorgesson> Ok, but I could not log on from the cli mysql
[18:56] <MTecknology> can you now?
[18:57] <JorgeJorgesson> Yup
[18:57] <MTecknology> should just keep working then
[18:57] <JorgeJorgesson> So, if I reboot it will work automatically now?
[18:57] <MTecknology> should
[18:58] <JorgeJorgesson> I'll give it a shot right now.
[18:58] <JorgeJorgesson> thanks
[18:58] <JorgeJorgesson> Because this has happened many times before and it is driving me crazy
[19:00] <Sp00K> Hey guys. I'm having a locale issue. My default locale is german while I prefer Dutch or English, reinstalling is no option since its a production box. If needed I can only restart it friday night. Does anyone have a good idea how to fix the locale issue (I prefer without a reboot)? :)
[19:02] <MTecknology> Sp00K: I know you can install additional locales and just set your own locale, you might need to log out and back in, I forgot how though
[19:03] <Sp00K> MTecknology, Hm. This might be handy: http://pastebin.com/m23ccebf3 as I already installed dutch language etc, I am still facing the issue that its defaultly using de_DE. And yes, I've reconfigured locales and even locale-gen (I think its the same what dpkg does.). I only have SSH access. :|
[19:04] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: nope, upon reboot, the mysqld server is not running again
[19:04] <MTecknology> I know it's possible and I've seen it done, beyond that I'm afraid I'm not much help, sorry
[19:05] <Sp00K> MTecknology, Was that against me or JorgeJorgesson?:P, if it was against me, Thanks anyways :-)
[19:05] <MTecknology> Sp00K: that was you
[19:05] <Sp00K> Ok, thanks anyways :)
[19:05] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: check /var/log//
[19:07] <JorgeJorgesson> /var/log/?
[19:07] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: it's where system logs are held
[19:07] <JorgeJorgesson> I know.  Which file to check.
[19:08] <MTecknology> mysql*
[19:10] <JorgeJorgesson> mysql.error is empty
[19:10] <JorgeJorgesson> mysql.log is empty
[19:10] <MTecknology> what about the other?
[19:10] <MTecknology> mysql
[19:11] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: That are the only two.  The others are archived .log files
[19:11] <JorgeJorgesson> *those
[19:14] <MTecknology> log            = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log
[19:14] <MTecknology> vim /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[19:15] <JorgeJorgesson> /var/log/mysql is an empty directory
[19:15] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: hrm... before you do that...
[19:16] <MTecknology> /etc/init.d/mysql status
[19:16] <JorgeJorgesson> mysql is stopped
[19:16] <MTecknology> dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[19:19] <JorgeJorgesson> Package `mysql-server' is not installed and no info is available.
[19:19] <MTecknology> aptitude install mysql-server
[19:20] <bitprophet> sounds mildly problematic
[19:20] <MTecknology> bitprophet: not as problematic as my installing vista on my sisters laptop atm
[19:20] <bitprophet> condolences
[19:21] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: ok, maybe I need to understand what is going on here first, sorry.
[19:21] <JorgeJorgesson> I thought the server was installed already
[19:22] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: have you ever installed a server app on your own system thinking it was your server, or are you still novice? :P
[19:23] <MTecknology> I've done that a few times - I think that and any command followed by an accidental -rf / is a right of passage :P
[19:23] <JorgeJorgesson> As I have no idea what you just said I guess I'm new
[19:23] <Sp00K> MTecknology, I just 'exported' every option for locale into NL/dutch and placed it into the global .bashrc, issue fixed since it works :)
[19:24] <MTecknology> joe-mac: hey... I was calling logwatch instead of /usr/sbin/logwatch......
[19:24] <MTecknology> Sp00K: congrats
[19:24] <Sp00K> Thanks :)
[19:25] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: you like rogers isp?
[19:25] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: It is ok.  Expensive and limited bandwidth
[19:26] <MTecknology> ouch
[19:27] <MTecknology> HA!!!  http://www.linux-magazine.com/Userfriendly/(offset)/51
[19:28] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: ok, back to the issue at hand.....what am I installing with the mysql-server?
[19:29] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: mysql
[19:30] <MTecknology> the server component
[19:30] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: but I must have it already.  I've run the server before.  I'm not sure I get it all here.
[19:31] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: the server component is pretty much required if you want to run a server
[19:31] <MTecknology> just install it and be happy ;)
[19:31] <bitprophet> JorgeJorgesson: how'd you get the mysqld binary installed in the first place, if it is actually there?
[19:32] <JorgeJorgesson> mysqld-server5.0
[19:32] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: normally you only need to install mysql-server, the rest is taken care of
[19:32] <JorgeJorgesson> ahhh, now I see.
[19:33] <bitprophet> MTecknology: if I read the apt info for mysql-server it doesn't seem to install anything but mysql-server-5.0 currently (ie. it's not a meta-package pulling in other packages)
[19:33] <bitprophet> so shouldn't he already have everything that "install mysql-server" would give him?
[19:34] <JorgeJorgesson> That is what I thought!  I just wanted to match my remote mysql servers installation
[19:35] <bitprophet> JorgeJorgesson: all I can say is that if you started out with no mysql installed and did 'apt(itude|-get) install mysql-server(-5.0)' you should have an init script in /etc/init.d/ that starts mysqld for you, no problems
[19:35] <MTecknology> bitprophet: I thought mysql-server also took care of the daemon
[19:35] <bitprophet> naw
[19:35] <bitprophet> mysql-server =~ mysql-server-5.0
[19:36] <JorgeJorgesson> Ok, so what is going on then????
[19:36] <bitprophet> you're thinking of just "mysql" probably? I can't recall as I never ever install the client w/o the server, heh
[19:36] <bitprophet> JorgeJorgesson: what's "ps ax | grep mysql" give you?
[19:36] <JorgeJorgesson> I hate installing stuff when I don't understand it.
[19:36] <JorgeJorgesson> Now I went and installed mysql-server.  Damn
[19:36] <bitprophet> JorgeJorgesson: all I can do is help you figure out A) what's installed and B) what's running and C) how to shut it all down adn start it up the "normal" way :D
[19:36] <bitprophet> what did it do? it should've not actually done anything
[19:37] <bitprophet> except install an empty package :)
[19:37] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: after you do that, restart and see if things work
[19:37] <MTecknology> just to see
[19:37] <bitprophet> all it does is install a copyright and changelog file
[19:37] <JorgeJorgesson> ok....feeling like a guinea pig here, but I'll play
[19:37] <bitprophet> http://dpaste.com/61689/
[19:38] <bitprophet> so, JorgeJorgesson, don't worry, you didn't install anything bad :D
[19:38] <MTecknology> bitprophet: I'll go watch vista upgrade to sp1 for the next few hours
[19:38] <JorgeJorgesson> Oh, I know that....I just don't want any version conflicts
[19:38] <MTecknology> apprently I'm getting more dumber
[19:39] <MTecknology> a meta package usually helps keep version conflicts from happening..
[19:39] <MTecknology> bitprophet: you're a ruby fan?
[19:40] <JorgeJorgesson> 7028 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep mysql
[19:40] <JorgeJorgesson> That was for bitprophet
[19:41] <ruben23> hi, i lost my user password- how do i recover it or overwrite this to login
[19:41] <ruben23> the user im using now is the user specified during the installation
[19:41] <ruben23> i never setup root password.
[19:41] <MTecknology> ruben23: reboot into recovery and launch a root shell
[19:42] <ruben23> ok
[19:42] <ruben23> then ill set to change the user password...?
[19:42] <MTecknology> yup
[19:42] <MTecknology> passwd user
[19:46] <bitprophet> MTecknology: "fan", not necessarily
[19:46] <bitprophet> I use it at work
[19:46] <bitprophet> a Python person at heart.
[19:47] <bitprophet> Ruby's all right and has plenty of good points, but I think more like Python does.
[19:47] <bitprophet> JorgeJorgesson: ok, so mysql's not running, good
[19:47] <bitprophet> JorgeJorgesson: what happens if you do sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[19:47] <JorgeJorgesson> MTecknology: installing mysql-server did nothing
[19:47] <bitprophet> that's the normal way of starting services, if you weren't aware (/etc/init.d/<whatever> (start|stop|restart|status|etc))
[19:47] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: sudo.... starts mysql server
[19:48] <bitprophet> and then ps ax | grep mysql shows it's running?
[19:48] <JorgeJorgesson> I know it's running because I can log in.  I'll run the command though
[19:48] <bitprophet> eh, that works
[19:48] <bitprophet> so are you good now?
[19:49] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: no, I have to manually start every time?
[19:49] <bitprophet> the root problem here is that just executing one of the daemon binaries is rarely going to work fully on an OS which customizes the install to expect env vars and to call e.g. mysqld_safe instead of mysqld and etc etc
[19:49] <bitprophet> JorgeJorgesson: no, that init script should start on boot
[19:49] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: it does not
[19:50] <bitprophet> find out by doing try doing sudo update-rc.d mysql defaults
[19:50] <JorgeJorgesson> I've tried that 5 times now, sorry.
[19:50] <bitprophet> uh. forget those first 4 words
[19:50] <bitprophet> what does it say? that the links already exist?
[19:51] <JorgeJorgesson> Yes
[19:51] <JorgeJorgesson> But it does not
[19:51] <bitprophet> interesting
[19:51] <JorgeJorgesson> I'd say
[19:51] <JorgeJorgesson> Serenity now.....
[19:51] <bitprophet> have you monitored the startup process to see if any obvious errors show up?
[19:51] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: no, I've not.
[19:51] <bitprophet> guessing it's just not set into the right runlevels somehow, which would be odd but explain the problem
[19:52] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: this is a fresh 9.04 install
[19:52] <JorgeJorgesson> Installed mysql-server5.0 from the repos
[19:52] <JorgeJorgesson> Nothing unusual
[19:52] <bitprophet> mm
[19:52] <bitprophet> what do you see when you do find /etc/rc*.d -name "*mysql*"
[19:52] <JorgeJorgesson> Note: desktop version, not server
[19:52] <bitprophet> (ignoring any -ndb stuff)
[19:52] <bitprophet> ah
[19:52] <bitprophet> I've only used server
[19:53] <JorgeJorgesson> Sorry....
[19:53] <bitprophet> no idea if there's a qualitative difference
[19:53] <JorgeJorgesson> should have said that upfront
[19:53] <bitprophet> I assumed desktop just adds a bunc hof GUI shit
[19:53] <JorgeJorgesson> hahahahha
[19:53] <bitprophet> anyway so what symlinks are in the /etc/rc*.d folders?
[19:58] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: how many files do you want to see?
[19:59] <bitprophet> use that find command I pasted above
[19:59] <bitprophet> should only show maybe 2 dozen
[19:59] <MTecknology> JorgeJorgesson: server installs a different kernel but that's the only significant difference, shouldn't change that though
[19:59] <bitprophet> could pipe to |grep -v ndb
[19:59] <bitprophet> if you see waht I do on 8.04
[20:00] <bitprophet> should look vaguely like this
[20:00] <bitprophet> http://dpaste.com/61695/
[20:02] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: yes, I see about that many.  your pastebin is almost the same as my output
[20:03] <bitprophet> so you've got "S" files in rc's 2 through 5 ?
[20:03] <JorgeJorgesson> http://pastebin.ca/1479858
[20:03] <bitprophet> apparently so
[20:03] <bitprophet> very bizarre
[20:03] <JorgeJorgesson> Yup
[20:04] <JorgeJorgesson> I must have something wrong here.
[20:04] <bitprophet> at this point I have no further idea, maybe a bug in 8.10/9.04
[20:04] <bitprophet> Yea...if you've not actually set up any data I'd aptitude purge mysql-server-5.0 and reinstall from scratch, perhaps. otherwise, no idea.
[20:04] <JorgeJorgesson> Yeah, let me try Fedora
[20:04] <bitprophet> :'(
[20:04] <JorgeJorgesson> Well, whatever works, right?
[20:04] <JorgeJorgesson> It's all Linus
[20:04] <JorgeJorgesson> *Linuzx
[20:04] <JorgeJorgesson> damn
[20:05] <JorgeJorgesson> Linux
[20:06] <JorgeJorgesson> Standard, fresh installation of 9.04 does not work with mysql-server....I tried.  Two times actually.
[20:06] <bitprophet> well, good luck with fedora then :)
[20:06] <bitprophet> I've never liked redhat or its derivatives, always prefer to find/fix/work around any warts in Debian derivatives instead ;) but to each his own
[20:07] <JorgeJorgesson> I'm not set on Fedora...anything that works with mysql-server
[20:07] <bitprophet> naturally :)
[20:07]  * bitprophet has to put up with RHEL on prod servers because the backup system his host uses only runs on RH type systems
[20:07] <bitprophet> best tool for the job and all that
[20:08] <JorgeJorgesson> Yup, Ubuntu does not cover all bases.  Actually this is the first instance.  Unfortunately I have to change over 4 more machines to whatever works with mysql-server.  I want them all the same. Including my POS system
[20:08] <bitprophet> So, while I'm here, does anyone know what the latest news is on Xen (host) support? I recall hearing last year that Xen packages were being phased out, which makes me sad (my xen server is on 7.10)
[20:08] <bitprophet> yea, consistency is important
[20:10] <JorgeJorgesson> well, especially for my users.  It took them a year to adapt to Ubuntu.  Now something new yet again.
[20:11] <bitprophet> :(
[20:11] <JorgeJorgesson> Yup, not sure how to tackle this one yet.......shit sandwich and all.
[20:11] <bitprophet> mm
[20:11] <bitprophet> rock and a hard place
[20:11] <bitprophet> I'd look for bug reports, if mysql is running just fine via init script post-boot, there's got to be some stupid little thing preventing it from firing automatically on boot
[20:11] <bitprophet> or ask on #ubuntu which I imagine gets much more traffic
[20:11] <JorgeJorgesson> I'll try the mysql guys one last time.
[20:12] <JorgeJorgesson> I'm going to try XP again as well.
[20:12] <bitprophet> like, this must be easier to solve than if it wasn't running at all, for example.
[20:13] <JorgeJorgesson> I'd have thought so.
[20:13] <JorgeJorgesson> Or someone else must have tried this before.  But if not, then this is just not something that people do with the desktop version
[20:16] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: yeah, it appears as though this has not been done, or there is no interest in it with the desktop Ubuntu version.  Very strange.
[20:17] <bitprophet> makes me wonder if somehow the desktop version doesn't _run_ init scripts. that'd be pretty odd though.
[20:17] <Travis-42> how would I specify which user I want to run a command in for things like a crontab entry or a logrotate prerotate command?
[20:18] <bitprophet> sudo -u <username> <command>   ?
[20:18] <JorgeJorgesson> Not sure but I just tried it on an XP machine with rebooting.  Works just fine.
[20:18] <bitprophet> or edit that user's crontab, for that particular task.
[20:18] <Travis-42> bitprophet: ah, I didn't really occur to me that I could have just used "sudo -u" in the entry, I don't know why.  Thanks.
[20:19] <bitprophet> JorgeJorgesson: well that's a totally different OS :) so it's not really something to compare to. it's definitely not MySQL's fault, at least, defeinitely something with how Ubuntu is packaging it, or some local quirk of your system
[20:19] <bitprophet> Travis-42: np
[20:19] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: I agree
[20:19] <JorgeJorgesson> That is why I'm asking here and not in mysql
[20:20] <bitprophet> did you ask in #ubuntu yet? as I said they probably have more eyes watching, and it's more specific too, since you're on the desktop edition
[20:20] <JorgeJorgesson> yup, nothing back
[20:20] <bitprophet> worth a shot. just ask "is there any reason why my mysql init script isn't firing on boot?"
[20:20] <bitprophet> ah
[20:20] <bitprophet> bummer :(
[20:21] <JorgeJorgesson> Hey, I gave it a good shot here!
[20:21] <bitprophet> you did!
[20:22] <bitprophet> Wish I could be of more help
[20:22] <JorgeJorgesson> And I just changed the last machine over to Ubuntu yesterday....all users were to go to it tomorrow....Canada Day.
[20:22] <JorgeJorgesson> Holidays are great for training.
[20:22] <bitprophet> ha
[20:23] <JorgeJorgesson> bitprophet: valiant effort!  I have a ton of work to do now.  Thanks a bunch for trying.
[20:23] <bitprophet> no prob, good luck
[20:24] <JorgeJorgesson> Might be worth a warning to future users somewhere.
[20:24] <guntbert> how do I change the language settings in ubuntu server (jaunty)?
[20:58]  * ajmitch sees there wasn't much of a server meeting to miss this morning
[21:08] <superbeef1> anybody have any recent luck installing VMware-tools when running 8.04 LTS on ESX?    I'm failing accross the board including every open-vm-tools hack
[21:08] <Sam-I-Am> i run that
[21:09] <Sam-I-Am> which build of esx?
[21:09] <Sam-I-Am> and whats the errors
[21:09] <superbeef1> 3.5.0
[21:09] <superbeef1> fails to compile vmmemctl
[21:09] <superbeef1> with their tools, or latest open-vm-tools
[21:09] <Sam-I-Am> which build of 3.5
[21:09] <Sam-I-Am> because that matters
[21:10] <superbeef1> 82663
[21:10] <Sam-I-Am> upgrade
[21:10] <superbeef1> yeah it's kind of stale
[21:10] <Sam-I-Am> its up to 153-something
[21:10] <Sam-I-Am> and they have modules specifically for ubuntu now
[21:10] <superbeef1> but i don't see the memory module won't copile
[21:10] <Sam-I-Am> its also officially supported...
[21:10] <Sam-I-Am> esx 4 has debian included in the support list too
[21:12] <superbeef1> yeah i tried their repo for tools, but that failed too.....   Maybe someday soon I can get a maintenance window and upgrade the ESX host
[21:12] <Sam-I-Am> sounds like your only option
[21:13] <Sam-I-Am> i dont think open-vm-tools exists on LTS... aside from the hack
[21:13] <Sam-I-Am> for a while there open-vm-tools on versions > LTS was the only thing that worked.
[21:15] <superbeef1> Sam-I-Am: thanks.... jeez there's a ton of pathces for this thing that need to be applied
[21:15] <Sam-I-Am> uh huh
[21:15] <Sam-I-Am> 3 file sets... esx itself, vmware tools, and the VIC
[21:15] <Sam-I-Am> depending on how you do it...
[21:17] <superbeef1> I guess I should jump through the hoops and take it up to update 3 at least
[21:17] <Sam-I-Am> 4?
[21:18] <Sam-I-Am> should be a 4
[21:26] <JorgeJorgesson> ok, the guys at mysql are just rude with my questions.
[21:32] <bitprophet> :(
[21:42] <JorgeJorgesson> Ok, I'm trying every last ditch effort to not to go to XP
[22:25] <ajmitch> great, php 5.3.0 hit debian experimental
[22:26] <RoAkSoAx> soren, have you been working on cobbler?
[22:28]  * ajmitch wonders if we should wait for 5.3.1 for karmic
[22:30] <Fenix|work> Greetings...
[22:30] <Fenix|work> ... Any Ubuntu server guides for doing tape backups?
[23:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #394036 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "MySQL 5.0.22 Crash on Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS (SELECT 0+0+0...)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394036
[23:45] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #367751 in munin (universe) "irqstats is confused by 2.6.24 /proc/interrupts" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367751
[23:52] <Gorlist> is their list of ports that should be open for apache/email server etc?  (80, 21 for ftp...etc)
[23:52] <Gorlist> emails are 25?
[23:52] <MianoSM> smtp = 25?
[23:55] <Gorlist> great
[23:55] <Gorlist> which ones pop?