[01:05] <Shane_Fagan> dtchen: are you there?
[01:49] <BrunoXLambert> if I understand correcly (read: I have no clue), I need the dev build of gnome(-doc-tool) to create things with the Mallard structure
[01:51] <BrunoXLambert> that was meant to be in another channel
[01:51] <BrunoXLambert> sorry
[02:40] <adambanana> hello
[07:27] <ara> good morning!
[07:33] <MaWaLe> morning :)
[07:40] <ara> buenos días jcollado
[07:40] <jcollado> Buenos días ara
[08:31] <davmor2> Morning All
[16:04] <eeejay> hey ara!
[16:04] <eeejay> hey folks
[16:04] <ara> hey eeejay!
[16:05] <ara> eeejay: when are you leaving to gran canaria?
[16:05] <eeejay> ara: on thursday morning, checking when i arrive...
[16:06] <eeejay> ara: friday morning, you?
[16:06] <ara> eeejay: friday around 4pm
[16:08] <ara> eeejay: are you staying at the fataga hotel?
[16:08] <eeejay> ara: no, at catalina park, it's an apartment building, i think
[16:13] <eeejay> ara: what do you think of bug 393577?
[16:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 393577 in mago "Remove Ekiga from ubuntu-menu test suite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/393577
[16:16] <ara> eeejay: I agree. right now the ekiga test is a bit useless
[16:17] <ara> eeejay: +1
[16:17] <ara> eeejay: how is the checkbox integration going?
[16:17] <eeejay> ara: committing!
[16:17]  * eeejay checks if he has other questions for ara before she goes to sleep
[16:18] <ara> eeejay: :)
[16:18] <eeejay> ara: generate pgp keys takes forever, and usually fails, do you experience the same?
[16:19] <ara> eeejay: it use to work for me, but I haven't touched it in a while
[16:19] <ara> eeejay: how do you measure "usually"
[16:20] <eeejay> ara: with accurate statistics :)
[16:20] <eeejay> ara: it gets stuck at "generating primegen"
[16:21]  * ara tries
[16:22] <eeejay> ara: there is a checkbox-certification branch with a mago plugin
[16:22] <ara> eeejay: nice, I'll have a look to it
[16:27]  * ara is trying to delete old ldtp python files that are incompatible 
[16:27] <eeejay> yikes
[16:34] <eeejay> cr3, how do you have strings with spaces in a space-delimited list in checkbox's ini file?
[16:43] <cr3> eeejay: hm, got an example?
[16:43] <eeejay> cr3, suite names in mago could have spaces, so when i create a whitelist
[16:44] <eeejay> cr3, whitelist = "Sound And Video" "gedit chains"
[16:44] <eeejay> cr3, but quotes don't work, tried that
[16:45] <cr3> eeejay: the problem might be this regex: \s*,?\s+
[16:46] <eeejay> cr3, yeah. couldn't figure out a way to work with that
[16:46] <cr3> eeejay: do you think it would be reasonable to separate with \s*,\s+?
[16:46] <eeejay> cr3, you mean csv?
[16:47] <cr3> eeejay: kinda, with leading and trailing spaces stripped
[16:47] <eeejay> cr3, spaces or commas are fine. the solution needs to be proper escapage
[18:25] <shane_fagan> Error in updating xserver-xorg is this a known issue http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/207070/
[18:26] <charlie-tca> That is the error I got too, and restarting broke it bad
[18:26] <charlie-tca> as in, no more desktop, no nothing
[18:26] <shane_fagan> Im not going to restart until it updates and builds correctly
[18:26] <charlie-tca> long list of permission denied, though
[18:26] <shane_fagan> hmmm sounds like a bad one
[18:27] <shane_fagan> Ill submit a bug report
[18:27] <charlie-tca> Great. I can' t from this machine
[18:27] <charlie-tca> I'll aedd to it when I get things going here
[18:28] <shane_fagan> You can still go into recovery mode and do an xfix
[18:28] <charlie-tca> I can try to. Nothing has worked yet
[18:29] <charlie-tca> This was a fresh install, too
[18:30] <charlie-tca> uhh, don' t work
[18:30] <shane_fagan> Too bad, just finished filing the bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/393948
[18:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 393948 in xorg "Error in update [Karmic]" [Undecided,New]
[18:31] <charlie-tca> froze my mouse, killed the desktop, may have to reinstall again. just installed this two days ago.
[18:31] <shane_fagan> Prerelease versions arent recommended
[18:32] <shane_fagan> You'll have to wait for the fix
[18:32] <charlie-tca> only to test it though
[18:33] <charlie-tca> Without the fresh install, I can't test it good.
[18:33] <shane_fagan> Ah we are all testing it :)
[18:33] <shane_fagan> Anyhow bug filed should be fixed in no time
[18:34] <charlie-tca> Yeah, check your ~/.xsession-errors log
[18:35] <shane_fagan> Its all included in the bug report
[18:35] <charlie-tca> looks here like /etc/gdm/Xsession is got problems
[20:10] <cr3> eeejay: ok, so I'll try to find a reasonable solution to the proper escpapage of lists
[20:37] <cr3> eeejay: this is what I propose: no longer assume comma separated, because that will just postpone the problem under we have a string with a comma in it.
[20:38] <cr3> eeejay: instead, always expect space separated and support for escaping spaces with a backslash: Sound\ And\ Video gedit\ chains
[21:01] <fader> eeejay, cr3: gtkbuilder branch of checkbox dies on hardy: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/207147/
[21:01] <fader> (generated by "checkbox-gtk --log-level=debug")
[21:01] <cr3> fader: thanks man (I love log-level=debug)
[21:02] <fader> Hehe
[21:03] <fader> cr3: How about an undocumented switch like --log-verbosity=incredibly-ridiculously-verbose?  You could spell out times and dates in words, f'rinstance.
[21:03] <cr3> eeejay: I think I found a reasonable solution for the escapage of lists. I'll create a bug, push branch, submit for approval, scratch myself, smoke
[21:04] <cr3> fader: I could also pipe to a text to speech program
[21:05]  * fader has a great idea for the extended-audio-testing spec...
[21:06] <cr3> man, you're opening a can of sandworms!
[21:08] <fader> Mmm, spicy!
[21:19] <cr3> eeejay: done, please have a look at this branch if it solves the problem with escapage: lp:~cr3/checkbox/bug-394001